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Postgame notes: “I’ve never felt bad about winning games”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Apr 21, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The whole thing took a little less than an hour and a half, which, all things considered, was remarkably fast. In a span of six Yankees outs, 13 Yankees hits and seven Red Sox pitchers a baseball blowout came full circle. The Yankees were on their way to a embarrassing loss, and suddenly they were humiliating the Red Sox in front of a booing Fenway crowd that seemed to have seen enough.

“It’s baseball, and it’s hard to feel sorry for anybody,” Mark Teixeira said. “That’s not a knock on (Bobby Valentine) or anybody, but you go out to win the game. I’ve never felt bad about winning games.”

For the Yankees, this one had bad feeling written all over it. Freddy Garcia was pulled after an inning and two third, the Red Sox scored at least two runs in four of the first five innings, and the Yankees had scattered three singles before Teixeira hit his solo home run in the top of the sixth.

“It seems kind of like an innocent homer at the time,” Joe Girardi said. “… I know we have a great offense, but you don’t see a comeback (like that) at any level very often in professional baseball.”

In coming back from 9-0, the Yankees matched the franchise record for the largest deficit overcome in a win. They’d done it five times before tonight. They also scored seven runs in back-to-back innings for just the second time in franchise history. The first also came at Fenway.

“It’s still pretty shocking,” Teixeira said. “It’s one of the funnest games I’ve ever played in my entire life. I’ve played in a lot of games.”

Nick Swisher called the Yankees relievers the “heroes of the game,” but it’s hard to ignore six RBIs apiece from both Swisher and Teixeira. In consecutive at-bats, Teixeira hit two homers — one from each side of the plate — and a two-run, ground-rule double. In back-to-back at-bats, Swisher hit the grand slam that gave the Yankees life and the two-run double that gave them a lead. As he stood on second base after the double, Swisher pounded his chest.

“Those first four or five innings, we didn’t really have much going on,” Swisher said. “Then one hit, then a second hit, then a third hit. You know the old saying hitting is contagious. I feel like that is exactly the case today.”

• Curtis Granderson on Thursday, Eric Chavez yesterday and Mark Teixeira tonight. The Yankees have had a player hit multiple home runs in three straight games for the first time since 1961. The Yankees are the first big league team to do it since the Reds in 2010.

• Last time two Yankees had six RBIs in the same game was 2005 when Alex Rodriguez and Tino Martinez did it against the Rays. Last time two Yankees had six RBIs in a game on the road was 1999 when Scott Brosius and — surprise! — Joe Girardi did it. Girardi had seven in that game.

• The Red Sox bullpen allowed 14 runs (13 earned) through the final three innings. It was the most runs allowed by the Red Sox relievers since 2000 when the bullpen gave up 17 runs in a 22-1 loss to the Yankees. It was the most earned runs allowed by the Red Sox bullpen since 1994.

• On the other side, the Yankees bullpen allowed four runs through 7.1 innings. None of those runs came in the last four innings when David Phelps, Rafael Soriano, Boone Logan and Cody Eppley pitched a scoreless inning apiece. Phelps finished with four innings and three earned runs (he gave up another run charged to Clay Rapada). “I thought (Phelps) was ok,” Girardi said. “I thought he threw the ball pretty decent. He wasn’t quite as crisp as the last time he went out and went five innings, but on a day when the wind was blowing pretty good, I thought he was OK.”

• Freddy Garcia was neither crisp nor ok. He lasted only 1.2 innings, allowing five runs on seven hits. Girardi said Garcia didn’t have the same arm strength he showed in spring training and in previous starts this season. Garcia said he felt better in the second inning, but by then it was too late. “Every pitch I was throwing, they hit,” Girardi said. “I threw a couple of good pitches in the first inning and they hit it. Like I say, I have to pitch good. I don’t care if I’m throwing 83, 85, 86, whatever. I need to pitch good.”

• Here’s Girardi on Garcia: “He didn’t have his velocity today. I think it caused the other pitches to roll a little bit. He was up in the zone. He just didn’t have his stuff today when he went out there, for whatever reason. We’ll continue to work on it and see what’s going on. He didn’t have the arm speed that he’s had and had all spring training.”

• After the second inning, I thought the Yankees would need to call up a pitcher for tomorrow’s game. At this point, I’m not so sure. Cory Wade, Dave Robertson, Soriano and Mariano Rivera should all be available. Maybe Logan, Rapada and Eppley as well. With CC Sabathia getting the start, that’s probably enough.

• Brian Cashman confirmed tonight that Michael Pineda will go for a dye contrast MRI on Monday in New York.

• Eduardo Nunez is hitting .455 after a 3-for-4 tonight. He also has three stolen bases. The Yankees other shortstop is hitting .382 and also went 3-for-4 today.

• Don’t bank on tomorrow’s game being played. “The forecast is not real positive,” Girardi said. “It looks like we’re going to see a lot of rain tomorrow.”

• Let’s give the last word to Teixeira: “Some games, you get blown out. You play 162 games a year, you’re going to get blown out a few times. But, we still said, ‘Hey, let’s stay in it. We have a few innings left. You never know.’ And I give our bullpen a lot of credit because they kept us in the game. The last few innings they were lock down, and that was big. … If you come back from nine runs against anybody it’s a cool thing. But to do it here in Boston, it makes it a little more fun.”

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82 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I’ve never felt bad about winning games””

  1. xcv April 21st, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    assuming tomorrow’s game is rained out. let see if faux ace sabathia can stop the freight train that is the texas rangers like verlander did earlier today

  2. jacksquat April 21st, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    mick April 21st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
    What was really sweet too was we got to give ole’ Alfredo some NY style payback.
    =============================
    Boo me Booby V pulled a boner bringing in Ace for a 6 out save.
    Woulda thought it was the ALCS.

    You saw the bullpen, right? The man is desperate.

  3. MTU April 21st, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    “The Man ain’t got no culture.”

    :)

  4. luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    MTU April 21st, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Luis-

    If the halos knock off the birds we will be.

    They are winning 6-3.

    :)
    ====================

    That’s what i am hoping!! ;)

  5. luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    Good post Chad!!

  6. MTU April 21st, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Have as good an evening as we did a day Luis.

    In the morning 1st place will be ours.

    Manana.

    :)

  7. luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    GB7,

    About your last thread post…I can’t believe you are still blood thirsty, after this afternoon blood bath! :)

    By the way, I am pulling for AJ too. Always loved the guy demeanor.

  8. luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    Hasta manana, MTU

    Sweet dreams!! :D

  9. Against All Odds April 21st, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    m April 21st, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    LOL, All Odds.

    That’s hilarious. The fans on the Green Monster just threw back another tater.

    ———————————-

    You know it’s a big day when Tex goes opposite field HR. :)

  10. m April 21st, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Great post, Chad. Chock full of stuff on a game that was chock full of Yankee offense. :)

    I love that line by Tex. No need to apologize for winning games. It’s baseball.

    Back to back 7-run innings give the Sox whiplash.

    I’m on the fence about tomorrow. Our bats will surely die after today’s offense. But…the Sox would be reeling still.

  11. luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Odds,M,

    I am still baffled by this game…I never thought we could come back from a 9 run deficit. It’s so sweet and yet so incredible!

  12. luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    m April 21st, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Great post, Chad. Chock full of stuff on a game that was chock full of Yankee offense. :)

    I love that line by Tex. No need to apologize for winning games. It’s baseball.

    Back to back 7-run innings give the Sox whiplash.

    I’m on the fence about tomorrow. Our bats will surely die after today’s offense. But…the Sox would be reeling still.

    ==============================

    Better get your broom ready….This loss was back breaking, i think they have no confidence whatsoever. They are ours!!

  13. jacksquat April 21st, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Looks like the weather is supposed to be very bad tomorrow, probably good for the Sox.

  14. luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    JS,

    Yes if it rains it’s good for them, they will avoid a certain sweep

  15. Against All Odds April 21st, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    luis April 21st, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Odds,M,

    I am still baffled by this game…I never thought we could come back from a 9 run deficit. It’s so sweet and yet so incredible!

    ———————-

    I had my doubts as well because it seemed out of reach and unlikely but boy it was great to see them climb all the way back.

  16. jacksquat April 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Geez, Neftali Feliz 119 pitches in only his second start of the season, only his second major league start, a reliever the past 3 years…

  17. PhiltheThrill April 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 am

    I hope it ready to be Tex for the rest of the season now. He’s been underperforming at the plate for a few years.

  18. PhiltheThrill April 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 am

    Huh? I hope Tex is ready to be Tex…

  19. jacksquat April 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 am

    Fun with early season numbers:

    Swisher on pace for 216 rbi.

    Jeter on pace for 130 r, 130 rbi, 43 hr.

    Granderson on pace for 151 r, 65 hr.

  20. Wang IS Taiwan April 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 am

    Thanks, Chad!

    I took off tomorrow morning to see the gametomorrow (Sun’s), but now I guess I’ll sleep in instead.

    Great to see the guys come back. Yeah, the Sux bullpen is the worst in baseball, but they still kept their heads in the game and slaughtered those guys.

    Olney is saying V is not going to be canned this season, but I see a mutiny arising in that clubhouse…

  21. raymagnetic April 22nd, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Pitch counts are for sissies

  22. HebrewHammer April 22nd, 2012 at 12:56 am

    Let’s not lose site of how *hot* Jeter has been lately. Has he hit in every game this year ?

    Anybody know what his hitting streak is right now ?

  23. HebrewHammer April 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 am

    jacksquat April 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 am
    Fun with early season numbers:

    Swisher on pace for 216 rbi.

    Jeter on pace for 130 r, 130 rbi, 43 hr.

    Granderson on pace for 151 r, 65 hr.

    ###

    Arod on pace for 9 HR’s and 49RBI
    CANO on pace for 6 HR and 30 RBI

    Cano I’m pretty sure will wake up once he gets back in shape and in a routine. Arod I am concerned with because he is how own worst enemy, if he starts internalizing this he becomes the head case Arod which is like Out-rod.

    Also Arod has not hit .300 since 2008, which really just maybe he’s not that good without banned substances. well, not that good I mean, not even close to the superstar he once was. That coupled with his age, we are in for a long 5 years with this guy, we’ll be glad to be rid of him. I almost wonder if he retires after he reaches the HR record.

  24. HebrewHammer April 22nd, 2012 at 1:14 am

    Aj Burnett was absolutely filthy going 7 innings 0 runs 3 hits. Seriously, he looked flat out nasty.. I don’t ever think I’ve ever seen look remotely as good with the Yanks, even in the WS game he clutched. Yankees coming back down from 9, burnet a shutout, a perfect game .. what a strange day.

  25. HebrewHammer April 22nd, 2012 at 1:14 am

    But that’s baseball !!

  26. Rich in NJ April 22nd, 2012 at 1:23 am

    Opposite field HR make me happy.

  27. PittsburghYankeeFan April 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 am

    AJ needed the scenery change. Good for him.

    What a day. The Sox BP really, really sucks. Lucky for them the game may be rained out tomorrow. How could a $175 million team have a BP so bad? Wow.

    The Yankees? Once ARod and Cano start to hit, and the starters get their rhythm, with Freddy and Hughes demoted, they’re in for a run. Think 1998.

  28. theREALkevin April 22nd, 2012 at 1:53 am

    Watch out, Tex is looking like his old self again. Let’s hope he can keep it going.

    Swish with a career year in a FA year? Once again, let’s hope so.

    And I know with over 600 career homers, A-Rod will always think of himself as a power hitter. But you know how pitchers reinvent themselves sometimes after they lose velocity? I wish Alex would do the same, realize he will probably not hit 40 or 50 homers anymore, and just focus on HITTING. Focus on hitting .300. He was always a good pure hitter, he was never just about the power. If he hit .300 with like 15-20 homers I would be totally fine with that. But, he will probably always think of himself as that clean-up type hitter and try for more homers which he can’t hit as much of nowadays.

  29. Boston Jim April 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 am

    Thank you lord for making me a yankees
    Fan

  30. Jeff in Canada April 22nd, 2012 at 2:50 am

    And Tex, I’ve never felt bad about watching a game like that three times on my PVR, and reading stuff like this over and over:

    http://mobile.boston.com/sport.....ox_at_a_lo

    Sweet Caroline indeed…

  31. Locke April 22nd, 2012 at 3:21 am

    Jeff in Canada – wow, that article is brutal. I’d feel bad for Bobby V. if he’d had some class like Terry did. I hope they get to play tomorrow and finish the sweep.

  32. butterball April 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 am

    HebrewHammer
    Let’s not lose site of how *hot* Jeter has been lately. Has he hit in every game this year ?

    Anybody know what his hitting streak is right now ?

    ——————————–

    Jeter went 0 for 4 in the third Tampa Bay game. So his streak is 12 games.

  33. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:11 am

    Luis-

    Like I said.

    1st place.

    :)

    Tonight’s game has virtually no chance of being played.

    100% chance of heavy rain.

  34. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 7:15 am

    i had this crazy dream last night that the yankees were losing to to the red sox 9-0 last night and came back to beat them.

  35. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:18 am

    Randy-

    That IS a crazy one !

    :)

  36. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Randy-

    I know I probably shouldn’t get you started on this but it looks like we might have some trouble w. Pineda.

    Are the Yankees totally clueless when it comes to diagnosing and treating Pitcher’s injuries ?

    And therefore in how to treat them ?

    I just hope it turns out to be nothing serious.

    This the 2nd time in recent memory that they have started a guy up again when they were still
    injured.

    How does that happen ?

  37. Wang IS Taiwan April 22nd, 2012 at 7:24 am

    Here’ my question, MTU:

    Why didn’t they pay for the more thorough MRT (with the dy) initially? Surely the investment is worth it, right? I’d want to know exactly what was going on with my pitcher’s shoulder.

  38. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 7:25 am

    mtu-

    i had been out to my favorite indian restaurant and had very spicy briani .
    i hadn’t watched the game at all. not a pitch.

  39. Wang IS Taiwan April 22nd, 2012 at 7:25 am

    Can you tell I’m tired? MRT= MRI? :) :LOL:

  40. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:29 am

    Wang-

    I have no answer to that question but they were completely baffled by Hughes’ injury as well.

    Either they are not thorough enough, they are cheap, or they need to find another set of Physicians.

    Or some combo of the above.

    With assets like Hughes and Pineda it makes you scratch your head.

    Things that make ya’ go, Huh ?

  41. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 am

    Randy-

    “The interpretation of dreams” by Freud

    or

    “Archetypes of the collective unconscious” by Jung

    I’m sure they cover Red Sox dreams in there.

    :)

  42. Wang IS Taiwan April 22nd, 2012 at 7:34 am

    Gotta go — I got up early both days to watch the games (3/4am). I’m zonked.

    I’m sorry the game’s going to be rained out. Tomorrow’s game (your today) was actually at a decent time. Oh well.

    We killed ‘em — that’s the important thing!

  43. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Wang-

    you’re a true fan.

    We did indeed.

    Get some rest.

    You’ll wanna watch us destroy Texas next.

    ;)

  44. Wang IS Taiwan April 22nd, 2012 at 7:37 am

    Fingers crossed!!

  45. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:38 am

    Wang-

    I’m nothing if not optimistic.

    I can dream can’t I ?

    Randy does.

    :)

  46. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 7:43 am

    “I know I probably shouldn’t get you started on this but it looks like we might have some trouble w. Pineda.”

    mtu-

    you’re telling we we have problems!!!

    as long as pineda stays injured, he technically hasn’t thrown a pitch in the minors so stuckey is dodging a bullet on losing the bet between us who would first appear in the minors, pineda or montero.

    his two month banishment from the blog doesn’t start until pineda throws a pitch in the minors.
    can’t the yankees juts do what they usually do and let him go out there and see if his shoulder just blows out?

    i mean , i have a bet at stake here. one pitch . that’s all i’m asking. who needs dye tests? just go out there and throw as hard as he can. like wang did when he had the bad hip. they didn’t do no stinking dye test. they ran him out there and found out what was wrong by making it bad enough to diagnose it. that’s the way to do it. you find out fast.

    maybe stuckey will come back and can wrk out an agreement where i am assured of some time served, but not the whole time. it would be a win/win for both of us. as it is the randy l./stuckey bet is stuck in limbo with pineda in no man’s land.

  47. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 am

    Randy-

    Maybe the Yankees need to read “Diagnosing Pitching injuries made simple”, or ” Pitching injuries for dummies” again.

    :)

  48. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am

    ““The interpretation of dreams” by Freud

    or

    “Archetypes of the collective unconscious” by Jung

    I’m sure they cover Red Sox dreams in there.”

    mtu-

    the really weird thing about my dream with the yankees having the giant comeback was it was like those dreams mickey mantle said he had after his career was over when he’d be trying to sneak into yankee stadium and he couldn’t get in.

    the weird thing was in my dream last night it was montero trying to sneak in :)

  49. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:52 am

    Randy-

    The Montero thing has the potential to cost you a fortune in Psychoanlaytic fees.

    Could mean years of therapy and some serious couch time.

    :(

  50. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 am

    Me. I’m already well around the bend so I have no worries.

    :)

  51. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 am

    By the way, if you eat spicy food before bedtime and it gives you gas and/or indigestion it will give you nightmares.

    Known fact.

    ;)

  52. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am

    “The Montero thing has the potential to cost you a fortune in Psychoanlaytic fees.

    Could mean years of therapy and some serious couch time.”

    mtu-

    i didn’t want to mention it before ,but in my dream as yankee runners were crossing home plate by the bucketful and montero was trying to climb over the green monster to get in to join the offensive juggernaut, trisha was in the stands with a giant megaphone shouting “PITCHING WINS” over and over at fleeing red sox fans.

  53. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 am

    randy-

    I kinda figured you liked yesterday’s display of firepower even if it was generated by some of the worst pitching I’ve ever seen.

    The Sux were worse than a 1-legged Man in a butt-kicking contest.

    :)

  54. MG April 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am

    Andy threw 58 strikes out of 66 pitches in his extended spring training start according to the Daily News, that is off the charts impressive.

    He’ll be back in 2-3 weeks and Garcia, unless he rediscovers his decent fastball and splitter, is undoubtedly heading for either the bullpen or out.

    this whole Pineda situation is very strange. The Yankees have a good medical staff, they aren’t the 3 Stooges, and hopefully they are just being over cautious right now. If he needs to be shutdown for a month it won’t be the end of the world but you wonder why they made this deal even though Montero isn’t exactly setting the world on fire and Noesi has been bombed in two out of his three starts.

  55. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:16 am

    MG-

    “They have a good medical staff”.

    Really ?

    How do they keep missing things then ?

    i.e. Wang, Hughes. Now Pineda.

    Are they thorough enough or do they just go by what the Pitcher says to guide them ?

    Maybe they need to take a look at their proceedures.

    ;)

  56. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 am

    And MG the problem seems to be that they are not cautious enough in the 1st place.

    Kinda’ the opposite.

    ;)

  57. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 8:27 am

    “I kinda figured you liked yesterday’s display of firepower even if it was generated by some of the worst pitching I’ve ever seen.”

    mtu-

    yes, murderer’s row all over again :)

    i liked giradi’s “hitting is contagious” quote.

    don’t get me wrong. i like good pitching, but i love great hitting.

    the yankees couldn’t have won without good pitching form the bullpen yesterday.

    the best yankees teams always have a balance of offense and pitching. there is usually been the ford or guidry added to the mantle and maris or jackson and munson and nettles.

    right now with how delicate pitching is, even when you think you have it you don’t necessarily.
    as far as pineda goes, on a serious note, the yankees obviously are on the hot seat with how they let him keep pitching in spring training with the reduced velocity without doing tests sooner.

    the yankee win was so great over the red sox i don’t want to even thing about pineda too much this morning :)

  58. MG April 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 am

    MTU, there are no universal rules for treating pitching injuries, I doubt that the Yankees medical staff is any different than all the other teams in MLB.

    It is an inexact science, you could probably find signs of damage to every shoulder and every elbow of every pitcher in baseball.

    It’s just too bad the Yankees have had some problems in the past few years, I think these things are more random than anything else and respect your right to disagree, of course.

  59. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 am

    randy-

    Can’t disagree with the concept of balance.

    Question becomes it’s definition and how best to achieve it ?

    That’s where the heavy lifting comes in IMO.

    :)

  60. Gary April 22nd, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Morning, one for the ages that’s for sure. We watched the whole game talk about a spectrum of emotions. Even the outs in the second half of the game were pretty “loud”

    The two balls that were hit, the foul by AROD off the monster and the shot by Ibanez for the DP at first, I don’t know if you could hit a ball any harder than that.

    Getting PO’ed by all the shifts going on, teams should just play the game like it’s meant to be, this isn’t softball.

  61. MG April 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 am

    In case anyone is in need of a laugh, here are some classics from probably the most childish LoHud poster of all time from yesterday:

    HebrewHammer April 21st, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Tex really needs to wave his no trade. both him and alex are head cases. if only we can get rid of them. man that would free up much more money and we’d actually have a good start at a real team.
    who should go list:
    Girardi
    Arod
    Tex
    Martin
    Swisher
    I’m 50/50 on granderson and cano, but wouldn’t lose sleep over either. I’d probably stick with grandy tho because cano is a lazy player with a very low iq.

    HebrewHammer April 21st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
    GO figure!
    SWISHER SUCKS ! MARTIN SUCKS! AROD SUCKS ! TEX SUCKS !
    seriously, you can put 4 players in a hat at their positions and I’d take them over those 4 bums.

    HebrewHammer April 21st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
    Big deal he hit a HR. that’s all he is ever good for the occasional HR.

    HebrewHammer April 21st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    is this team capable of playing baseball and scoring runs without a HR ?

    I’m out of here. I just decided I officially do not like the yankees. they are a bunch of overpaid bums with no talent since they stopped juicing.
    the only yankees that have my respect are jeter, gardner and granderson the rest of the team is just garbage !! enjoy your nice disappointing season.
    ————————————-
    what a great Yankees fan, what a brilliant perspective on baseball

  62. Gary April 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 am

    MG April 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am

    Andy threw 58 strikes out of 66 pitches in his extended spring training start according to the Daily News, that is off the charts impressive.

    He’ll be back in 2-3 weeks and Garcia, unless he rediscovers his decent fastball and splitter, is undoubtedly heading for either the bullpen or out.

    this whole Pineda situation is very strange. The Yankees have a good medical staff, they aren’t the 3 Stooges, and hopefully they are just being over cautious right now. If he needs to be shutdown for a month it won’t be the end of the world but you wonder why they made this deal even though Montero isn’t exactly setting the world on fire and Noesi has been bombed in two out of his three starts.

    _________________________________________________________________________

    I’ve actually sat Montero on my fantasy team with the return of BJ Upton. Your correct in your analysis. Shame about Pineda, everyone wants him to pitching and let the chips fall where they may. The injury just feeds on some to stoke the fires.

  63. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:38 am

    MG-

    I want the Yankee’s staff not to be just like other teams but superior in every way.

    They have the resources to make that happen and of course it should be a priority.

    The investment they have made on the Pitching side should make that a given.

    To have it any other way would be foolish in the extreme IMO.

    They have staked the team’s future on their young Pitching.

    They need to do everything they can to protect it, nuture it, and develop it.

    Are they ?

    Are injuries gonna happen in spite of that. Of course.

    Keeping them to a minimum should be a goal.

    And of course, I respect your right to disagree too.

    :)

  64. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 am

    “Question becomes it’s definition and how best to achieve it ?

    That’s where the heavy lifting comes in IMO.”

    mtu-

    it’s also simply preference where no one is right or wrong.
    persoanally,i love the feeling of hitting. it’s what i did really well. so i like it.

    i came to appreciate pitching more from catching it, but it was an acquired taste. i want enough pitching to win, but i don’t care if the pitchers give up runs as long as my team wins.

  65. Gary April 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 am

    what a great Yankees fan, what a brilliant perspective on baseball

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    MG why not just let it sit? Everybody has an opinion, not much is gained by some of the caracterization that goes on here.

  66. Gary April 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Hi MTU, out last Thursday fishing, no Dorado but some nice speckled trout :-)

  67. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Randy-

    Each to their own.

    You know I like the pitching side of the equation more.

    You’ll see the light eventually.

    :)

  68. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Gary-

    It’s great that you have a passion and such a practical hobby.

    I don’t get any food from mine just aches and pains, and a few photos.

    Can’t fish in the desert.

    :(

  69. MG April 22nd, 2012 at 8:45 am

    MTU, my point is that the treatment of pitching injuries is an inexact science, they really don’t have 100% knowledge of what damage that shows up on MRIs is a problem and what isn’t.

    If you did an MRI to CC or Halladay’s shoulders and elbows there would probably be some issues, it just doesn’t bother them out on the mound.

    It would be nice to hear from Joe in LI about this, he would have a much better perspective on it than us.

  70. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 8:46 am

    actually if the yankees really wanted to create a “pitching wins” kind of team, why didn’t they move the fences out in the new yankee stadium.

    they would have created a whole lot of lower scoring games.

    so with this ball park, aren’t the yankees kind of going counter to the park they are in by trying to emphasize pitching ?

    or do they need really good pitching because it’s a hitter’s ballpark ?

  71. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Unless you’re a Sux fan.

    :)

  72. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:48 am

    MG-

    That is true. Dr. Joe could provide more perspective.

    As could a sports Physician.

    I only stayed at a HIE.

    Those are my full credentials.

    :(

  73. Benny Blanco April 22nd, 2012 at 8:48 am

    facts:

    Grandy man leads the yankees in BB, he has 10. He’s def. had some good AB’s this year.

  74. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:49 am

    MG-

    One last thing.

    I’m talking more about the diagnosis than the actual treatment.

    Movin’ on.

    ;)

  75. Crawdaddy April 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 am

    Tyler Austin will be on the MLB channel on XM Radio in the next hour.

  76. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:53 am

    Randy-

    That’s a chicken or egg problem the way you phrased it.

    IMO they built the park to enable the O not to aid the Pitcher.

    If they wanted that they build Citi field, or Safeco.

    So you have a point in some sense.

  77. MG April 22nd, 2012 at 8:53 am

    MTU, so am I-if Pineda had a serious labrum or capsule problem in his shoulder it would easily be diagnosed, whatever is there is something very small and difficult to understand.

    Remember when last year the Yankees though Hughes could have some kind of rare blood disorder (or something like that)?

    It just turned out to be tendinitis and what was really needed was rest and for him to get in better shape.

    Anyway, enjoy the day, it’s sunny in Florida today after some very heavy rains yesterday and I have a great day planned. I’m sure you have a hike in some beautiful part of the country far away from Bedford Avenue and the Freddie Fitzsimmons bowling alley :)

  78. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 am

    MG-

    You do the same.

    Have a good one.

    Ah, the memories of youth.

    :)

  79. NYYanksFan April 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am

    “Why didn’t they pay for the more thorough MRT (with the dy) initially?”

    The contrast dye can be uncomfortable and have side effects and many findings can be seen without it so you start with least invasive.

  80. MTU April 22nd, 2012 at 9:01 am

    New thread —–>

  81. The Genius Maker April 22nd, 2012 at 9:08 am

    My take
    http://stevewigdor.blogspot.com/

  82. randy l. April 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am

    “Each to their own.

    You know I like the pitching side of the equation more.”

    mtu-

    yeah, but your idea of fun is walking out into the wilderness with just enough food and water to make it back alive.

    .. and not only that, with all that walking in open spaces you’d think you bring a golf club and whack a few balls while you’re out there.

    but as you said, you went over the waterfall a while back :)

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