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Postgame notes: “You started to see it get to CC-like”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Apr 23, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

All you need is the final pitching line to know this wasn’t quite a vintage CC Sabathia start, but it was close.

“These guys are hot as a pistol,” Alex Rodriguez said. “To come in and give us eight strong innings, Sabathia to Mo, that’s always a good recipe to winning.”

Sabathia was exactly the man the Yankees needed him to be, and there were moments when he was every bit the ace he’s capable of being. He let the first two batters reach, but limited the damage to one run with a double play. He gave up a solo home run to Josh Hamilton, his eighth of the year. When the Rangers seemed to get something going with two runs in the seventh, Sabathia responded by retiring the next five batters, who happened to be the top five in the order. All told, got 11 outs on the ground, struck out eight and at one point allowed two hits through 18 batters.

“You don’t want these guys to get the ball in the air because they are so dangerous,” Joe Girardi said. “That just tells me he had his command. When he’s getting ground balls and not getting in a lot of three-ball counts and not missing up, away from right-handed hitters, it tells me he has his command. … I thought his last four innings against the Twins, you started to see it get to CC-like. I thought maybe we’re going to get something going here. We talked about how he can be a slow starter, but I liked what I saw those last four innings against the Twins, and he just carried it over today.”

Starting pitching has been a problem for the Yankees, but this was a sign of life against a team that’s been playing like it’s the best in baseball. His fineset moment might have been his last, when Sabathia retired Hamilton, Michael Young and Mike Napoli on five pitches in the eighth inning.

“I felt good,” Sabathia said. “I felt like I was going back out. I had been pitching pretty well. I didn’t know how many pitches I had, but I felt like I had enough to go back out and try to get three more outs for us.”

• Don’t look now, but Derek Jeter is hitting .411 after his second four-hit game of the season. “I don’t think you ever anticipate anyone being this hot, but I’m going to take it,” Girardi said. “We’re going to keep playing him and we’ll give him his DH days like we’ve talked about but he just looks really good.”

• Rodriguez’s three-run homer today was his third of the season, and it stood as the difference in the game. The lead started to feel safe at that point. “That’s a big three-run homer because it kind of breaks the game open a little bit,” Girardi said. “This, as we know, is a club that can score a bunch of runs. And you need to keep padding on as the game goes along and not miss any opportunities.”

• Sabathia called his outing “so-so” because of the seventh inning. Despite the home run an inning before, Sabathia seemed to be cruising before the Rangers put together that little seventh-inning rally. “If I make two pitches, I have a good chance of getting out of that inning without any runs,” Sabathia said. “It’s a little disappointing, but I was just glad I was able to get out without having a big inning.”

• Girardi on the decision to let Sabathia stay in to face the heart of the order in the eighth: “He had been good against Michael Young. He had been good against Napoli. I was going to go hitter by hitter at that point. And he threw a bunch of outstanding pitches in the eighth inning, and I didn’t have to bring anyone in.”

• Rivera, of course, pitched a perfect ninth for his fourth save. Since blowing a save on Opening Day, Rivera has allowed two hits and no walks through six innings.

• The Yankees have now won four in a row, and they’ve won 10 of 13 since that three-game sweep to open the season. “You want to play better,” Girardi said. “It all starts with starting pitching. We’ve gotten some better performances. It starts with that, but you’re playing good teams. You’re going to have to beat these teams if you want to make any noise this year.”

• Jack Curry reported today that the Rays are expected to sign Hideki Matsui to a minor league deal. Another minor league signing with much looser ties to the Yankees: The Orioles are reportedly set to sign Bill Hall, who was in camp with the Yankees this spring.

• Finally, a quick heads up that I’ll be hosting a chat at noon on Wednesday. We were going to try to do it on the off day, but I’m not sure I trust the airplane Internet service to work well enough. So, Wednesday at noon eastern time. Stop by if you can.

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53 Responses to “Postgame notes: “You started to see it get to CC-like””

  1. Bret The Hitman April 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Derek Jeter leads MLB with 30 hits. He’s on pace for 304 hits on the year. :lol:

    It was nice to see the ace hitting his spots tonight.

  2. Duh Innings April 24th, 2012 at 12:29 am

    I’m tellin’ ya, Jeter was pooped from playing every day 1996-2010 including every postseason save 2008, plus the stress, travel etc. and that’s why he had a bad 2010 and early part of 2011. He recharged his batteries while on the disabled list last year. The injury he had last year was a blessing in disguise and quite possibly the best injury to a Yankee the Yankees ever had, as weird as it is to say that. I think time will show that 2010-early 2011 was merely an anomaly, a blip on the screen.

    If Jeter has a solid 2012, the Yanks should offer him an $18M extension for 2014 so he makes $15M, $16M, $17M, and $18M in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014, respectively. That’s $10M more than his player’s option for 2014 but he’s worth it. The Yanks already owe him $17M for 2013 and what are they gonna do? Offer him the same or less to come back? No, they’ll give him a mil more than what he made in his walk year cuz he’s an icon who could have six or seven World Series rings through 2013. Maybe the Yanks could pay him $8M of that $18M in 2014 then pay him $2M a year deferred without interest 2015-19, that way they pay only $8M in 2014 like they would pay if Jeter exercised his player’s option for 2014. Under this arrangement, Jeter would make $4M 2015-17 ($2M a year deferred without interest for 2011-13 he’s already making + $2M of the 2014 money deferred) then $2M a year 2018-19. This staves off a decision over Jeter’s future with the Yanks until after 2014 and would also enable the Yanks to get the payroll down to what they wanted in 2014. Who’s to say Jeter wouldn’t return after 2014? Maybe he gives the Yanks a deep discount for at least 2015 like Pettitte did for this year (Pettitte is worth at least four times his 2012 salary.) That deep discount would come in handy if Felix Hernandez decided to become a free agent after 2014, traded from Seattle or not.

  3. I Am Winning April 24th, 2012 at 12:53 am

    I think it’s kind of scarey how down to the detail you have thought about Jeter’s future assets. I don’t feel anywhere near qualify to even debate it. …but good luck!

  4. Rich in NJ April 24th, 2012 at 1:27 am

    Jeter has been awesome, an MVP candidate to this point, but given the unpredictability of the aging process (as evidenced by his last two seasons in the aggregate), you don’t worry extending him at this point. Robinson Cano, given his age, has to be their contractual priority.

    They should, however, offer Jeter the off the record assurance that if the Yankees are ever sold, that a group headed by him will have the right of first refusal.

  5. Jerkface April 24th, 2012 at 1:35 am

    That would be a terrible deal for the 189 conscious yankees.

  6. Jerkface April 24th, 2012 at 2:00 am

    Deferring money does not alter the cap hit in 2014.

  7. tom tresh 15 April 24th, 2012 at 2:37 am

    Jair Jurgens back to AAA

  8. Nick in SF April 24th, 2012 at 3:58 am

    “Joba_62 Love isn’t defined by a dictionary it’s defined by ur heart. Love with all u have in everything u do!”

    First a Rangers tweet, now this… does Joba bounce around too much?

  9. Duh Innings April 24th, 2012 at 4:24 am

    I Am Winning April 24th, 2012 at 12:53 am

    I think it’s kind of scarey how down to the detail you have thought about Jeter’s future assets. I don’t feel anywhere near qualify to even debate it. …but good luck!


    Scary? Relax bro, I took his current contract off Cot’s Baseball Contracts. I doubt Jeter needs anyone to think about his “future assets” LOL.

    Re: The $189M. I got news for you, Jerkface:

    Jeter’s not picking up his $8M player’s option if he turns out a 2013 like his 1996-2009, post-DL 2011, or 2012 so far. He has all the leverage if he has a solid 2012-13 cuz what are the Yanks gonna do, let an icon walk? They gonna let him walk if he has a solid 2012 and a down year 2013? I don’t see it. You’d let him go if he had a 2010-like 2013? I wouldn’t, and much, much, much more importantly, the Yanks wouldn’t, no how, no way, and I don’t buy for a second they’d have let him walk after 2010 despite all the Yankees posturing.

    Jeter will ask for at least what he will be paid for 2013: $17M. That 2014 player’s option wasn’t him saying “I’ll be worth only $8M in 2014 and you could always buy me out for $3M”, that was him thinking he can play well enough to earn as much as $17M that year and well, while it’s still very, very early, he is playing like he could and has since he came off the disabled list last year.

    Jeter currently has 3118 career hits including already 30 this year. ‘Say he collects 170 more hits in 2012 for an even 200 total hits in 2012, 3288 hits through 2012. If he collects just 170 hits in 2013, that’s 3458 hits through 2013. No @#$%ing way they let him go just 57 hits shy of passing Tris Speaker, 173 hits shy of passing Stan Musial, and 314 hits shy of passing Hank Aaron for third place all-time in hits behind Ty Cobb and Pete Rose. If Rose is never inducted into the Hall Of Fame, Cobb was posthumously kicked out for being an unabashed public racist who was publicly against racial integration in MLB, and Jeter surpassed Hank Aaron in hits, Jeter would be the all-time leader in hits among Hall Of Famers. Since I doubt Cobb would be given the boot, Jeter certainly would be the all-time leader in hits by good guy Hall Of Famers when he passes #1 good guy Hank Aaron.

    I think the Yanks will find a way to pay Jeter $17-18M for 2014 and not go over $189M.

    The problem with the Yanks getting to that $189M is their complete absence of position players from the farm system who could play for the Yanks every day in 2013 or 2014 and offset the enormous salaries of Teixiera and Rodriguez and the impending enormous salary of Cano or Granderson (as I think one will be traded / both could not be afforded especially if the Yanks hold to $189M – my guess is Cano is kept and Granderson is traded.) Where is the starting C, 3B and RF for the 2014 Yanks? They will most likely be a re-signed and overpaid Russell Martin (minimum three years), ancient for 3B/the field A-Rod, and a one-year veteran in RF. They could really use a pair of kids making the rookie minimum at 3B and RF for 2014 but I don’t see it happening unless they trade for them.

    ‘Say Mo retires after this year. That’s $15-15.5M off the books for 2013. My guess (and only that) is Soriano and possibly David Aardsma share closing duties for the 2013 Yanks as Soriano was a closer for the Rays and is being paid closer money, and Aarsdma was a 30+ saves a year guy (albeit for only two seasons.) I don’t see the Yanks spending big on a closer for 2013-14. Someone has to close if Mo is indeed No Mo after this season and I seriously doubt the Yanks are gonna spend big on a closer.

  10. Duh Innings April 24th, 2012 at 4:27 am

    By “like his 1996-2009″, I mean even if Jeter has another 2004 or 2008, he will still want at least $17M if not more for 2014.

    ‘Say he takes only $14M, a mil less than his 2011 salary. That’s still $6M over his player’s option for 2014.

    He has the Yanks by the monetary balls if he turns out a solid 2012-13.

  11. theREALkevin April 24th, 2012 at 4:31 am

    I rue the day Joba Chamberlain discovered Twitter.

  12. theREALkevin April 24th, 2012 at 4:37 am

    The Yankees are going to worry about Jeter being over 300 hits shy of some milestone?? 314 hits is two more seasons worth of hits… Come on, that’s ridiculous.

    And I would much rather have Robertson close than Soriano or freakin David Aardsma.

  13. theREALkevin April 24th, 2012 at 4:37 am

    He’s already gotten his 3000 hits. That was the big milestone.

  14. bardos April 24th, 2012 at 5:48 am

    What if Jeter decides to give the Yankees a discount, like Andy did, just to play, but more importantly to help out the “189 Yankees”.

    I mean, is there a moment when someone says “I have enough millions”?

  15. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    I wonder where all those Jeter haters are these days, you know, the ones saying the Yankees should let him walk, he was finished as a SS etc.

    It was good to see CC back on track, the team needs him to be successful.

    I see this being one of the best Yankees teams in quite some time, if we can keep everyone healthy, #28 is within reach.

  16. blake April 24th, 2012 at 7:39 am

    “I wonder where all those Jeter haters are these days, you know, the ones saying the Yankees should let him walk, he was finished as a SS etc.”

    LGY and JF are still here :)

  17. blake April 24th, 2012 at 7:41 am

    I read that somewhere

  18. blake April 24th, 2012 at 7:47 am

    Message to Girardi:

    I know a RHP is throwing tonight……but please don’t put Ibanez in the outfield…..jones made 2 or 3 plays yesterday that im just not sure Raul makes. DH Ibanez and put Jones in LF against Texas.

  19. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    blake -

    They may be here, but, they don’t want to read all the BS they wrote last year, because it would just come back to bite them.

    Good morning, hope you have a nice day. Glad tonights game is back on YES.

  20. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    blake -

    Place that note in the binder.

  21. raymagnetic April 24th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Think Jeter retires after he passes the AL record for most hits.

    Will be a long time before someone passes his AL record of most hits.

    The longevity and overall goodness will be hard to surpass and no ones close

  22. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 7:52 am

    I’d love to see Jeter stay long enough to pass Pete Rose.

  23. blake April 24th, 2012 at 7:54 am

    Morning AL.

    CC and Alex look like they are getting on track….Alex had 4 really good ABs yesterday and finally started getting his timing in the 3rd when he hit that bomb….he came a few feet from another one the next AB.

    The Sox would have lost last night without Bard in the pen….I hope they keep starting him.

  24. blake April 24th, 2012 at 7:57 am

    “I’d love to see Jeter stay long enough to pass Pete Rose.”

    That’d be so awesome…..he’s ahead of Rose’s pace…..but I can’t see Jeter hanging around like that to get there. I think 3,500+ is certainly in play though and maybe a push for 4,000 if he wants to keep playing. At this point its all about health and just how long he wants to do it……Im really enjoying this Jeter revival though….its awesome.

  25. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:00 am

    blake -

    Pete Rose is now 71 years old, any thoughts as to whether or not baseball should re-instate him, and allow him to get into the HOF?

    I realize all the reasons pro and con, but, I’d vote him in, before he dies.

  26. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:04 am

    blake -

    To me, one of the greatest Yankees ever to play is Jeter, and he was a home grown player. So many greats through out the Yankees history have been home grown.

  27. blake April 24th, 2012 at 8:07 am

    “Pete Rose is now 71 years old, any thoughts as to whether or not baseball should re-instate him, and allow him to get into the HOF”

    Yea I think they should let him in….he’s done his time….they’ve made their point….people who have done worse things are in the HOF

  28. blake April 24th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    “To me, one of the greatest Yankees ever to play is Jeter, and he was a home grown player”

    Best SS of all time.

  29. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Blake -

    I’ll second that!

  30. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    I guess MTU is sleeping in, or GB7 caught up to him, lol.

  31. blake April 24th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    MTU is hopefully not hanging off a cliff somewhere

  32. blake April 24th, 2012 at 8:17 am

    It’ll be an interesting game tonight….the Yanks haven’t seen Darvish before which usually is bad for them…..but with his approach ill be intersted to see how aggressive he is……if Yu comes right at the Yanks and throws strikes he probably will be successful as they haven’t seen him and he’s got good stuff…..if he nibbles around and falls behind they’ll hammer him and have him out by the 5th.

  33. Yankee Trader April 24th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Rank Player (yrs, age) Hits Bats
    1. Pete Rose (24) 4256 B
    2. Ty Cobb+ (24) 4189 L
    3. Hank Aaron+ (23) 3771 R
    4. Stan Musial+ (22) 3630 L
    5. Tris Speaker+ (22) 3514 L
    6. Cap Anson+ (27) 3435 R
    7. Honus Wagner+ (21) 3420 R
    8. Carl Yastrzemski+ (23) 3419 L
    9. Paul Molitor+ (21) 3319 R
    10. Eddie Collins+ (25) 3315 L
    11. Willie Mays+ (22) 3283 R
    12. Eddie Murray+ (21) 3255 B
    13. Nap Lajoie+ (21) 3242 R
    14. Cal Ripken+ (21) 3184 R
    15. George Brett+ (21) 3154 L
    16. Paul Waner+ (20) 3152 L
    17. Robin Yount+ (20) 3142 R
    18. Tony Gwynn+ (20) 3141 L
    19. Derek Jeter (18, 38) 3118 R

    If Jeter retires after his contract is up at the end of the 2014, he could realistically, if healthy, finish behind Stan Musial on the all time hits list.

    And yes, if I had a vote, I’d vote Pete Rose into the HOF

  34. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    YT -

    Thanks for the info, nice job.

  35. RhapsodyInBlue April 24th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    Just my opinion but I think Jeter very much wants the all-time hits record.

    Look at the condition he came into camp this season. Hopefully the Capt. can keep it up.

    Possibily why he keeps pushing marriage and a family off because the pursuit of the all-time hits records and his off season training regimen will continue for a few more years.

    Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall, banishment from the game itself is enough.

  36. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    If I lived long enough to witness it, Jeter getting the 4257th hit to pass Rose would be a dream come true. Catching the ball would be great too!

  37. Yankee Trader April 24th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Darvish so far has had runners on base practically every inning , with a WHIP of 1.81. The Yankees lead the entire league in OB%

    Here are Darvish’ split stats so far-lefties have their way with him so far.

  38. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    The TV sets in Japan will all be on the Yankees vs. Rangers game tomorrow morning. I wonder if they give TV ratings in Japan, and if so, what share that game would bring.

  39. Yankee Trader April 24th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Kuroda when the splitter is working can win this game. The Rangers hitters don’t have much experience against him. BAA .253 OB% .303

    The Sensei will school the pupil tonight!! :)

  40. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    blake -

    The MTU adventure continues.

  41. pat April 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Chris Stewart was the beneficiary of the complain about a person in the line-up and they will have a good game rule yesterday.

    Seems every week Derek or Alex are passing someone on MLB or Yankees all time records list for something.

    Are we appreciating what we are watching? Derek passing A-List names on Yankee records lists seems more a no brainer than Alex passing guys who were career Yankees since he has played half his career as a non-Yankee.

  42. Yankee Trader April 24th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    BIG AL-

    Great cartoon. Is there a lawyer in the house?

    Whenever I fill out an application, in the part that says “In case of emergency, notify:” I put DOCTOR.

  43. Yankee Trader April 24th, 2012 at 8:50 am


    I hope A-Rod is getting back on track. I thought Tex, who seemed to be back on track, would have a big game vs Holland, a pitcher he has owned, but he went 0-4 leaving 4 men on base.

  44. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    YT -

    You’d think they’d know that all by themselves. :)

  45. Wang IS Taiwan April 24th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Several years ago (while Torre was still here), he said that Jeter had asked Gene M. if he thought he could go 10 more years…Jeter was smiling, but he wasn’t really joking. Back then, I thought, “Probably not, Jete” but now? Who knows? You’d be a fool to bet against that guy. He’s not only very determined, he works hard.

  46. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Players having big games is great, but, being consistent day after day is far more important.

  47. MaineYankee April 24th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Chris Stewart was the beneficiary of the complain about a person in the line-up and they will have a good game rule yesterday.


    It’s time to look for a new BUC.

    As you know it’s been said many times Joe doesn’t like an offensive catcher.

  48. blake April 24th, 2012 at 8:53 am

    I said yesterday that they wanted to get Stewie’s bat in the lineup…..all jokes aside he’s done a nice job for them so far.

    Jeter has a pretty good chance to pass Mays on the hit list this year…..would be pretty cool if Alex passed him in homers and Jeter passed him in hits around the same time.

  49. blake April 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am


    Tex just had an off night…..I don’t worry about him right handed at all….still like how he’s swinging the stick so far.

  50. BIG AL April 24th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    blake -

    I’d be happier if the Yankees passed all other teams to win #28.

  51. Yankee Trader April 24th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Mark Teixeira vs. Jason Giambi: How is the 8-Year Deal Going?
    by Travis G on Apr 24, 2012 8:00 AM EDT in New York Yankees Analysis

    “The Yankees have had two mainstays at first base over the last decade: Jason Giambi and Mark Teixeira. Both were free agents that signed long-term deals for more than $100M. Giambi was supposed to bring one of the best bats in the league while Tex was supposed to bring an excellent all-around game.”

    “One discouraging fact is that they both declined in their first three seasons in pinstripes.”

    Read the short article:

  52. blake April 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Jeter needs 165 hits to tie Mays for 11th on the all time list……which would mean a 195 hit season for Jeter……considering he’s on pace for over 300 this year it certainly seems doable.

  53. Yankee Trader April 24th, 2012 at 9:01 am

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