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A-Rod at DH as Yanks set for Verlander

Posted by: Josh Thomson - Posted in Misc on Apr 27, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Raul Ibanez LF
Eric Chavez 3B
Russell Martin C

RHP Ivan Nova





105 Responses to “A-Rod at DH as Yanks set for Verlander”

  1. yankeefeminista April 27th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Go SuperNova! Go Yanks!

  2. yankeefeminista April 27th, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    eboland11 Joba here. Said he’s been throwing off a stool and that “my arm’s never felt better.” Still thinks he’ll be back by end of year

    Go, Joba. Heading to game, va Vato!

  3. HebrewHammer April 27th, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    maybe Arod should sit or get replaced, just like the redsox are considering to do to Youkillis, who’s numbers are virtually identical to Arod’s.

  4. MTU April 27th, 2012 at 4:18 pm


    Can you believe I have to miss one of my favorite Yankees pitchers ?


  5. Benny Blanco April 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    HebrewHammer April 27th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    maybe Arod should sit or get replaced, just like the redsox are considering to do to Youkillis, who’s numbers are virtually identical to Arod’s.


    I challenge you to say something positive over the next 3 hours. :)

  6. HebrewHammer April 27th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Benny Blanco April 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    HebrewHammer April 27th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    maybe Arod should sit or get replaced, just like the redsox are considering to do to Youkillis, who’s numbers are virtually identical to Arod’s.


    I challenge you to say something positive over the next 3 hours.


    Jeter is on fire. I call it like it is. happy?

    You should be upset at your 30mil dollar player stinking, not the guy pointing it out.

  7. HebrewHammer April 27th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    I meant 300mil

  8. Tackelberry April 27th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Betances tries again ot to walk the ballpark tonight for Scranton

  9. Locke April 27th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Benny Blanco – completely agree, this blog could definitely use a more positive vibe.

    Can’t wait to see Nova tonight. I know Verlander is fantastic, but we know we can hit him. Lets keep the Nova streak alive.

  10. austinmac April 27th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Beating Verlander would be a nice way to start the series. It all depends on Nova throwing a low run game.

  11. Cashmoney April 27th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Betances tries again ot to walk the ballpark tonight for Scranton
    I think Manbam got a real good chance to be the goods if he stays health. Betance needs more time, period; but time is on his side. Prospects are just that until they prove otherwise in the big. I guess it’s been this way for the last few years imo, this is a good team, just not sure they are the best team on paper and on the field anymore. I dont think cashman and co. does the best job allocating resources… should we expect the best to be at the helm for the NY Yankees? I think so… question is whom?

  12. Nilsson April 27th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Nova outdueling Verlander would be pretty sweet. I think it would be a boost for the psyche. Not for the team’s, but for a segment of the fanbase.

    Btw, quality posts Trisha.

  13. Yankee Trader April 27th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    I just heard that Bill “Moose” Skowron passed away. One of the Yankees terrific players in the 50′s and 60′s at 1st base. Hit .293 in 8 WS appearances with 8 homers and 29 RBI’s.


  14. Shame Spencer April 27th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    I need Arod to start 100 games at 3B this year to win a bet!!

    Doesn’t Uncle Joe know that?!

    PS – Thanks trisha, for calling me objective… I do honestly try, I’m just kind of an asshole.

    (I had no idea you could say asshole on the blog until today. Totally keeping that in my repertoire until Chad yells at me.)

  15. Yankee Trader April 27th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Executives from other teams tell both Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports and Jayson Stark of that the Angels seek bullpen depth.

    Maybe the Yankees can trade all of what’s left of Soriano’s 11M this year and his 14M next year, for Dan Haren, who’s having an off start to the season. Throw in Garcia also. :)

  16. Jerkface April 27th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Mike Mussina passed away?! Did he crash his tractor? :(

    Bryce Harper got called up. 1 step closer to being a future yankee.

  17. G. Love April 27th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    In case any of you guys don’t have Insider access, here’s Cashman’s latest on Pineda. Sounds like it’s starting to sink in what he did and how the fans are reacting….the bit about Hal just listening is interesting….

    “Yanks up in arms over Michael Pineda
    By Wallace Matthews

    NEW YORK — Two days after the announcement that his prize offseason acquisition would not play this year, Yankees general manager Brian Cashman admitted to fearing he made a mistake in trading away Jesus Montero for Michael Pineda.

    “Right now, our hopes and dreams for this player are in jeopardy,” Cashman said of Pineda. “Hopefully, someday, our fans will get to see what we expected to see from him for many years to come.”

    The Yankees announced on Wednesday that Pineda, acquired from the Seattle Mariners in January — on Friday the 13th — had suffered a torn labrum in a rehabilitation start on Saturday in Tampa and would undergo season-ending shoulder surgery.

    All I can do is lay out the facts, I can’t control what people believe. There are no secrets in Yankeeland, nor should there be. If something’s there, it will eventually get out. I’m not going to compound the situation by lying about it.” — Yankees GM Brian Cashman

    “This is a massive decision gone wrong right now,” Cashman told on Friday. “So all scrutiny is fair.”

    Cashman has asserted the Yankees had subjected Pineda to an MRI before the trade became official, but doubts linger whether the Mariners and their GM, Jack Zduriencik, knew the 23-year-old right-hander was damaged goods when the Yankees made the deal.

    “How can you not ask a question like that?” Cashman said. “It’s a fair question, but I can tell you we did everything possible to be sure Michael Pineda was healthy.”

    Cashman said Pineda passed his Yankees physical within 72 hours of the deal having been agreed to, a physical that included an MRI.
    About a month later, the Yankees voided a deal with left-handed relief pitcher Hideki Okajima, a pitcher the club had much less invested in than Pineda, after he failed his physical.

    “All I can do is lay out the facts, I can’t control what people believe,” Cashman said. “There are no secrets in Yankeeland, nor should there be. If something’s there, it will eventually get out. I’m not going to compound the situation by lying about it.”

    As he had on Wednesday, Cashman absolved the Mariners and Zduriencik of any blame in the matter.

    “The focus should be on me and the New York Yankees, not the Seattle Mariners,” he said. “I’m responsible. I’m the decision-maker.”
    Cashman said he, too, had wondered about the condition of Pineda’s shoulder during spring training, when he struggled to get his fastball above 90 mph on a consistent basis.

    “I asked him several times through an interprter if he had ever been in an MRI tube at Seattle,” Cashman said. “Each time, the answer was the same.”
    “Nunca.” Never.

    Cashman broke the news about Pineda’s surgery to his boss, Hal Steinbrenner, on a conference call on Wednesday, but said he could not tell if Steinbrenner also wondered if the Yankees had traded for an injured pitcher.

    “He just listened,” Cashman said. “He was obviously disappointed, but if he has the same kind of questions, I couldn’t tell.”

    Pineda, who was shut down 15 pitches into his first rehab start on Saturday after complaining of pain in his shoulder, will be operated on by Dr. David Altchek, the Mets team physician, at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan.

    Cashman said that while Pineda, who struggled with velocity issues throughout spring training, had previously complained of weakness in the back of his shoulder, Saturday was the first time he actually reported feeling pain.

    According to Dr. Chris Ahmad, the Yankees team doctor who will assist in the surgery, and other sources who spoke to, the fact that Pineda’s tear is in the anterior, or front, of the labrum increases his chances for a full recovery. A posterior labral tear often involves the rotator cuff, which Dr. Ahmad said was not affected in Pineda’s case.

    One source put Pineda’s chances for a full recovery at 85 percent following a long period of rehabilitation, expected to be 12 months from the date of the surgery.
    “Our fans are right to be upset about this,” Cashman said. “I’m devastated by it. I just hope everyone understands that every move I make is to improve this club, not hurt it.”

  18. Yankee Trader April 27th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Yanks vying for worst monthly starters’ ERA in a decade
    By Larry Koestler

    Time to shut down the Tiger hitters this weekend and make sure that statistic doesn’t come to fruition!

  19. Niblick April 27th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    I guess “Brain” Cashman is finally beginning to realize just how massively he screwed the pooch with his trade.

    Let’s hope Hal, Hank and anyone else that matters gets the message and gives “Brain” the boot.

  20. Yankee Trader April 27th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    G Love-

    Those points were discussed earlier this morning. The Mariners have had some bad luck with pitchers with torn labrums-Gil Meche and a 6’10″ hot prospect. It’s hard to fathom that they were hiding anything, but not hard to realize that they had concerns that Pineda could some day be subject to the same fate. They needed a bat and have some good arms in the minors, and when the deal was discussed to include Pineda, they jumped at it.

    Unlikely that Bud Selig will get involved, especially since it’s being documented that the injury and shift of pain to the anterior shoulder, a clue to a SLAP glenoid labral tear, happened while pitching last Saturday from the full windup.

    I do however question whether Pineda, after a few weeks in ST, trying to impress his new team, was afraid to say that his shoulder didn’t feel right and he was concerned about his lack of velocity. I’m sure he was asked almost daily how his arm felt after workout.

    At best, hopefully he’ll make a full recovery. Most likely he’ll go to the minors after 12 months to work again extensively on his secondary pitches as it’s unlikely he’ll be throwing in the upper 90′s.

  21. Betsy April 27th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    I want Cash and Joe both to go, but not because of the trade. I think their complete mishandling of the situation in ST is a perfect example of gross neglience and incompetence……..and poor Pineda may never be the same again.

  22. MikeK April 27th, 2012 at 5:44 pm


    RE: Your Andrew Friedman post earlier…

    I’ve personally been quite impressed with the work he’s done in Tampa Bay, particularly when it comes to their development of pitchers. They seem to be churning at least one out of the system every year.

    As far as Cashman goes, I think he’s a good, but not great, GM. We’re fortunate that he relies heavily on statistical analysis in addition to scouting, and he’s made some good trades over the years. But the lack of pitchers being developed by the team over the years is precisely why he felt the need to make the Montero-for-Pineda swap in the first place. At the very least, I think Cashman needs to take a good, hard look as his player development personnel, particularly when it comes to pitching.

    I actually think the amateur/international scouting aspect of the Yankees organization is quite strong. Oppenheimer and company seem to have given the mL system plenty of talent to work with, and the international scouting team has done fairly well, too. If the Steinbrenners weren’t so cheap with their draft/IFA budget, I suspect there would be even more high-end talent in the system. The fact that Miguel Angel Sano and Aroldis Chapman aren’t Yankees is inexcusable.

  23. MTU April 27th, 2012 at 5:45 pm


    Just to clarify this AM’s conversation.

    You seemed to imply that you are a research type rather than a Physician per se.

    Can you please be more specific.

    Are you a PhD. in life sciences, a Physical therapist type, or perhaps a professional trainer ?

    I would very much like to know.

    I was fascinated by your statement that you got to help the likes of Gibson, etc.

    And I wondered in what capacity.



  24. Yankee Trader April 27th, 2012 at 5:48 pm


    What do you do differently? Pineda comes to camp not throwing during the offseason. As Nick said he worked out lifting a fork a few thousand times.

    I can’t imagine he wasn’t asked multiple times if he felt allright after each workout.

    If he says I feel great, my fastball will be there, should they have said, you’re not and we’re shutting you down for another workup.

    And why is Cashman to blame-he relies on the professionals to make all health related decisions?

  25. Against All Odds April 27th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Jerkface April 27th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Mike Mussina passed away?! Did he crash his tractor? :(

    Bryce Harper got called up. 1 step closer to being a future yankee.


    will he fit in the budget?

  26. Yankee Trader April 27th, 2012 at 5:50 pm


    You’re right!!

    E-mail Chad.

  27. Betsy April 27th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Sure, Aroldis Chapman, who is still in the bullpen for the Reds – that’s a great investment they made

  28. Against All Odds April 27th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    “Injuries happen in sports. What if Montero runs into a wall in Seattle” – Francesa

    SMH what wall will he run into behind the plate or as the DH a**hole lol

  29. Betsy April 27th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Yankee Trader, I never blame the Yankees for things many fans do, but IMO, this is their fault. Please – a ST game is big? In what universe? Disgusting – and I said so at the time.

  30. Betsy April 27th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Knicks just have the worst luck…….Chandler has the flu and probably won’t play tomorrow.

  31. MTU April 27th, 2012 at 5:57 pm


    I asked to pass my e-mail onto you.

    I want to know more.


  32. MTU April 27th, 2012 at 5:57 pm


    sorry. that should have read “I asked Chad”.

  33. jmv April 27th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    Hey, guys

    I was wondering if the labrum injury would affect the movement of the slider, so I asked a couple of Orthopedic Surgeons today trying to explain the arm mechanics of that pitch (in theory, because I’ve never thrown one), but they agreed that it seems more stressful on the elbow than the shoulder

  34. jmv April 27th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    By movement I meant mechanics

  35. MTU April 27th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    New thread —->

  36. jmv April 27th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Hi, YT

    May I jump into the interested wagon? I’d like to share your research with my wife (she’s an Arthroscopic Surgeon)

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