Postgame notes: Garcia’s role uncertain after another bad start
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Apr 28, 2012 
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The benefit of the doubt has been the only thing working in Freddy Garcia’s favor this season, but even that might have ended after today’s debacle. Manager Joe Girardi said he wanted to “sleep on things” before making a decision, but it’s clear that Garcia’s spot in the rotation is in doubt.
“I can’t tell you exactly what we’re going to do,” Girardi said. “I’m not going to come to any rash decisions. Obviously we’re trying to evaluate what’s going on here. It’s frustrating for the player and it’s frustrating for us, but we all know Freddy is better than what he has shown. We saw all last year how he competed, we saw it in spring training. For some reason it’s not coming out (of his hand).”
Although Garca said he physically feels fine, Girardi said it’s entirely possible that the Yankees will send him for medical tests. Garcia’s fastball velocity has dipped, and his split — an effective put-away pitch last season — has been cutting. It was an 0-2 split that Andy Dirks hit for a three-run home run in the first inning.
“I don’t see the crispness in his pitches,” Girardi said. “If we didn’t see it in spring training I’d say, well, maybe it’s not going to be there. But it was there. He threw great in spring training. He threw harder than he did last year. For whatever reason it’s not there right now.”
Garcia seemed baffled, frustrated and uncertain following the loss. He said he’d like to make his next start, but acknowledged that he’s not sure the Yankees will send him back out there.
“I’m just struggling, man,” he said. “For me, it’s really hard. I like to compete and I’m not competing right now. It’s frustrating. … My velocity is down. We work hard last week on a couple of things and things are not going in the right way right now. I don’t know what’s going to happen next.”
• For the first time, Girardi called David Phelps a candidate to move into the rotation. “Any time you have a long man, he’s a candidate to be a starter,” Girardi said. “Your long man is someone who is a sixth starter all the time in the bullpen.”
• After three hitless innings today, Phelps ERA is down to 3.57. After two rocky outings, today looked much more like what the Yankees saw out of Phelps in the first two weeks of the season. “My last two outings I was just trying to do a little bit too much instead of staying within myself,” he said. “I kind of got back to that today.”
• The bullpen allowed one run through 7.1 innings. Cody Eppley gave up a solo homer to Miguel Cabrera, but that was the extent of the damage. Despite Garcia’s awful start, the Yankees had a chance because of the pen. “It just speaks volumes to the quality of arms we have in our bullpen, the job that we’ve done all year,” Phelps said. “You saw tonight, we were 10 or 15 feet away from having a tie ballgame. It’s what we’re supposed to do, go in and give our team a chance to win. We’ve been doing a great job of it so far.”
• Those 10 or 15 feet came on Eric Chavez’s fly ball to end the game. A three-run ninth got Chavez to the plate as the tying run with two outs in the ninth. He gave the ball quite a ride, but it was caught short of the wall.
• Nick Swisher homered from both sides of the plate for the 11th time in his career, tying Eddie Murray and Chili Davis for the second-most such games all time behind Mark Teixeira. This was the first time Swisher had homered at home this season. He has six home runs.
• Curtis Granderson hit his seventh homer of the season. It was his first home run off a left-hander this season.
• Garcia has allowed nine first-inning runs this season.
• This is the first time in Garcia’s career that he’s gone back-to-back starts without pitching out of the second inning. Last time it happened to a Yankees starter was Chien-Ming Wang in 2009. That’s not exactly the comparision he wants right now.
• That Dirks home run was the first time Garcia had allowed a homer on an 0-2 pitch since Cabrera did it against him in 2009.
• Girardi said the team might call up a reliever before tomorrow’s game. “We’ll figure that out,” Girardi said. “Obviously we could make some adjustments.”
• It’s worth noting that D.J. Mitchell last started on Tuesday, making Sunday his regular day to pitch.
• Speaking of minor league starters: The Yankees confirmed that Andy Pettitte’s next start will be with High-A Tampa, not Double-A Trenton. They don’t want him pitching in the cold.
• Finally, here’s Girardi on whether Garcia is hurt: “It’s something I’ve thought. You see it one start and you don’t think much of it. You see it a couple starts and you start seeing it three starts, you really start to wonder.”
Associated Press photos (the Garcia shot was taken through the mesh at the front of the dugout)
One of the biggest criticisms I’ve received on this forum is that I’m too patient, that nothing bothers me, that I don’t get upset enough when the Yankees lose. It certainly hasn’t been that I’m a knee jerker or a whiner or that I am on players like a cheap suit.
I’m bothered by what I am seeing with the rotation and I am bothered feeling that there is no Plan B in place.
That won’t change until I see some action from the organization and see what the action is and what the results are.
Too loosey goosey right now for my tastes.
I’m very forgiving of offense that is struggling, because I know a quality rotation can make up for that. The opposite is disastrous.
Phil phlaming out has hurt this rotation more than anything. Joba too. Out of IPK, Joba and Phil the front office somehow managed to keep the wrong to and dump the wrong one. That’s talent.
“• For the first time, Girardi called David Phelps a candidate to move into the rotation. “Any time you have a long man, he’s a candidate to be a starter,” Girardi said. “Your long man is someone who is a sixth starter all the time in the bullpen.””
We can only hope!!!
This team can obviously win games – look at their ability to score runs through this game – anything but an absolutely brutal start from Garcia and they could have had a shot.
Thank god for the bullpen or this team would be well below .500. Another day where they succeeded where the starters failed.
an 0-2 pitch for that 3 run Dirks HR.
Pathetic.
So, Trisha are you calling out the Yankees choices in terms of who they choose to be in their SP. Do you question said pitchers probability of outcome in spite of their track record and talent? After @4 games each are you saying you do not trust the 4 SP vets the Yankees handpicked?
Paco – all the more reason that we need the starting rotation figured out. You can’t keep leaning on the pen and the offense. It will catch up with you sooner or later. This team with a good starting rotation can go all the way.
Sounds like DL for dead arm, Phelps gets next start…
I will just keep saying it until someone listens. Garcia now has the WORST ERA in the AL (unless you could some of those guys that threw .1 innings and have an ERA of 54). No other team would send him back out there. Several teams have already DFA’d starters doing significantly better (and at least eating some innings).
Sad to say, but this team would be better with their starters from last season. Bartolo and AJ would be an upgrade over Hughes and Garcia…
Trisha, the only thing the Yankees are trying to figure out is their #5 starter.
Andy is one or two starts away from being back.
DJ Mitchell may not start tomorrow as per what you posted Pruf. Better wait before heading to Allentown. DJ may be in the Bronx.
Mick, projected date was May 10 vs. Rays. He said his legs aren’t strong enough yet. So, prob Tampa Monday and then a rehab start at Trenton.
YF,
I think that Phelps will be numero cinco while Andy arrives. Then another decision will be made: Phelps back to the pen and Phil keeps his job or viceversa. The real problem is Garcia and his 4 mm. Doubt they’re gonna pay him to go
Hughes and Freddy have killed the team and the pen will be worn out if they are to remain in the rotation.
CC, Kuroda and Nova have been fine.
This is a minor glitsch with help on the way and Phelps is a key.
For now and the future.
YF – I’m saying that I look at results. The results aren’t there. I don’t believe the Yankees could have known that Freddy and Hughes were going to flame or that Kuroda was going to be like a box of chocolates. I don’t care that they handpicked them! They handpicked Carl Pavano and Jose Contreras too. Both highly sought after. You win or you don’t.
Hughes and Freddy can’t go back into any more games. They have shown they are not reliable. And in addition THEY ARE KILLING THE OFFENSE. And the pen.
This reminds me of 2008. Well, except for the names and a few other changes
… the story’s the same one
“Sad to say, but this team would be better with their starters from last season. Bartolo and AJ would be an upgrade over Hughes and Garcia…”
Yep.
At this point, Phelps makes more sense than Phil.
“Andy is one or two starts away from being back.”
Really? Where did you hear that?
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Guess what? If this all blows up, please, those of you who are just blowing this off, don’t do any complaining. Because you seem pretty confident that all is well.
Me, I’m not so sure.
Trisha-
Not exactly 2008 because this time we have potentialy decent replacement parts in AP, Phelps, and Mitchell.
• Girardi said the team might call up a reliever before tomorrow’s game. “We’ll figure that out,” Girardi said. “Obviously we could make some adjustments.”
• It’s worth noting that D.J. Mitchell last started on Tuesday, making Sunday his regular day to pitch.
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I thought of this earlier. The last thing I need to do is make that trip to Allentown to find out when I get there that DJ Mitchell is headed east.
Trisha, there is no evolving problem. You move Phelps to 5 and the problem is solved. Garcia and Hughes were going to fight it out for #5, once Andy was back, but they will move pitchers around to get the best combo and replace both with Phelps if need be. Only reason they pitched both Hughes and Garcia is because Girardi wanted more info on both to determine that last slot…Garcia, they could have skipped him completely and pitched C. today had they wanted to. But they made a decision that necessitated use of the pen. The others should eat innings unless someone is hurt and then we would make a move.
There is only one more potential Freddy start than he can be skipped with the off day May 7.
You start Phelps that day for Freddy at KC.
Hughes gets 2 more starts against Balt and at KC.
If he continues to fail Phelps and Andy can takeover on the TB/Sea. homestand.
Phil can be the longman.
yankeefeminista April 28th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
DJ Mitchell may not start tomorrow as per what you posted Pruf. Better wait before heading to Allentown. DJ may be in the Bronx.
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Point! I’m happy to stay home and watch He That Should Not Be Called “C” Without First Genuflecting
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Mitchell is a good call to take Phelps’ spot as long man.
Freddy should be DLed.
You ease these minor league pitchers in thru the longman role as they did with Phelps.
He has beat out HUghes and Freddy for the 5 spot.
Now Mitchell will takeover for Phelps.
MTU – Ah the key phrase – POTENTIALLY decent replacement parts.
Any thoughts on what happens if those replacement parts don’t get the job done?
By the way, I’m no longer impressed that someone tears it up in AAA.
I’ve seen major league players fail in the Bronx, players with incredible pedigrees, players who have been tested and done a great job elsewhere.
I absolutely take no comfort in someone’s belief in any AAA player being able to come to the Bronx and conquer. I’ve seen too many failures.
If it all works out, great for us. In the meantime, we have major holes in the rotation. And Andy Pettitte didn’t say anything about only needing two more games. He said he definitely was not ready and Cashman said there was no timetable, they were not going to rush him.
So God only knows how long it is until Pettitte joins the rotation. And the worst thing in the world would be for him to come back too soon because the rotation is in shambles.
Mark my words. If this isn’t solved in fast order, you’ll see the ramifications at the worst possible time – either in the form of not making it to the postseason or crawling in from exhaustion and having nothing left.
I agree that with those who think it’s a possibility that Garcia is injured.
Yep, Phelps will take over 5 and DJ will come up if it comes to that.
Plus if you subtract one of Hughes/Freddy and add Phelps, the pen should be fine. April 26 was an off day, and the good pen didn’t pitch today. C. should give us length tomorrow.
ad to say, but this team would be better with their starters from last season. Bartolo and AJ would be an upgrade over Hughes and Garcia…
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But Pettitte and Phelps, backing CC/Nova/Kuroda, should be fine.
I heard you the first time about Freddy’s ERA. Awful. Feel bad for Freddy.
May is usually where Cash gets into action with internal options when the team is struggling.
1. Freddy to DL w/ dead arm
2. Phelps replaces Freddy
3. Mitchell replaces Phelps as long man
4. Hughes shapes up or to AAA to get that extra year service time or to the pen for good
5. Andy replaces Hughes
I also feel bad for Freddy; not sure how his velo could have dropped from ST to now unless he is hurt.
4. Hughes shapes up or to AAA to get that extra year service time or to the pen for good
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I say Phil is the long man out of the pen.
He has to prove himself like Phelps has.
He is not built for more than 5 -6 decent innings.
Let him work it out and perhaps he finds his calling .
Bret The Hitman April 28th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Phil phlaming out has hurt this rotation more than anything. Joba too. Out of IPK, Joba and Phil the front office somehow managed to keep the wrong to and dump the wrong one. That’s talent.
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Did Joba flame out or was his starting career cut short before it started?
Trisha no one from AAA has to conquer, Phelps is already here. If he starts he needs to provide a back-end quality start.
YF, right there is no evolving problem because the problem is already here.
Sorry let’s just agree to disagree because our thinking is diametrically opposed and I am as confident in my position as you are in yours.
I believe the Yankees have a huge problem on their hands. And I believe they know it. What remains to be seen is how they intend to solve it and how quickly they move on it.
Trisha-
Who would have thought that a pitching staff as deep as ours was would be brought to this point so quickly ?
Our depth was gone in what seems like a flash.
There is not much room for much else to wrong.
If it does we could find ourselves scrambling.
I agree that they need to get the rotation fixed as quickly as is humanly possible.
Plan B is now coming into operation.
What plan C might be I have no idea.
Freddy, THIS YEAR, has not earned a 5th start. Last year and Spring Training MEAN NOTHING AT ALL. Come on, folks, are you serious? These are the YANKEES, not the frickin’ Pirates. Garcia needs to be done. Phelps takes his place and when Andy comes back, Phil or Phelps go to the LongMan job, PERIOD. This is NOT Rocket Science dammit !
edit: go wrong. sorry
Against All Odds April 28th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Bret The Hitman April 28th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Phil phlaming out has hurt this rotation more than anything. Joba too. Out of IPK, Joba and Phil the front office somehow managed to keep the wrong to and dump the wrong one. That’s talent.
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Did Joba flame out or was his starting career cut short before it started?
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Odds, don’t you know that any young Yankee pitcher who doesn’t get the chance to develop with the Yankees because the Yankees don’t allow him to is an abject failure. We prefer other teams’ pitchers because they will never fail and will all be future aces.
I think Andy will be back after 2 more starts.
For the time being Phelps takes Freddy’s spot, that’s a no brainer.
Hughes gets his 2 starts and , if by a miracle, he does anything , send Mitchell back down and put Phelps in the pen for Andy.
You’ve got to see what kind of starts Phelps can give.
Sitting in rightfield at chavez ravine to see this kid harper play and stratsburg on the hill.
It is time the Yanks moved Garcia into the bullpen and Phelps into the rotation then see what team that isn’t a division rival, the Tigers, the Rangers, or the Angels would want him / his remaining salary of $4M minus what he’s been paid already. His taker if he had one would most likely be an NL team as I don’t think the As, Mariners, White Sox, Twins, or Indians would want much less could afford to take on his salary..
The Yanks have to maximize their chances to four-game sweep the Royals and would not do that if a 12.51 ERA pitcher (Garcia) started in that series. To start Garcia in the first game of that series would basically tell the Royals they have a chance to win at least one game over the Yanks or split the series. The Royals are a team the Yanks absolutely MUST feast on. The last thing the Yanks need is for Garcia to stink vs. the Royals, the Royals win the first game of the series then have to play only 1-2 / .333 ball just to split the series.
We have to figure Phelps would do much better than what Garcia did today and has done so far this season. Even if Phelps pitched a pedestrian 5 IP 2-3 ER, hey, that’s probably something Garcia would not have done. And let me say that Phelps in the rotation doesn’t mean he gets to keep his job no matter what although I would give him as many starts as Garcia has had to be fair. I say give Phelps all of May to see what he can do and if he stinks, too, right back to the pen he goes and right into the rotation D.J. Mitchell goes and if Mitchell stinks, then the Yanks have to get creative i.e. sign someone off the scrapheap. I already think they should be looking to signing Roy Oswalt and see if Pettitte could help recruit him since he and Oswalt pitched together in Houston and who better to sell the Yanks to Oswalt than Pettitte and the full hand of World Series rings he has with the Yanks (to go with his 2001 and 2003 AL Championship and 2005 NL Championship rings.)
The Yanks should replace Garcia with Phelps, Pettitte when he returns with Hughes, send Hughes to AAA, and give Kuroda until June to get his act together and if he doesn’t, replace him with Hughes because as bad as Hughes has been since June 2010, I’d rather he start every five games and be bad than a 37-year old in his walk year who will most likely not be a Yankee next season. If Sabathia / Pettitte / Nova / Phelps are good, they, the offense, and the bullpen could carry a bad Hughes in the #5.
Who would have thought that a pitching staff as deep as ours was would be brought to this point so quickly ?
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Mgmnt did.
That’s why they got Pineda and brought back Andy.
They didn’t trust Hughes or Freddy. Even Kuroda had to earn his stripes.
I bet they didn’t even trust Nova.
Whoops I mean replace Hughes with Pettitte when Pettitte returns.
You have to wonder if we had a 1B and a C who weren’t automatic outs if we could’ve won this game. I don’t know about you, but I am absolutely 100% tossing in the towel with career BA .259 with the Yankees, Mark Teixiera.
Tex’s last 4 years
BA OBP SLG OPS
.292 .383 .565 .948
.256 .365 .481 .846
.248 .341 .494 .835
.257 .309 .432 .741
You really have to wonder if we was on steriods up until he joined the NYY. Unlike Arod and his (I only roided in Texas) I believe that is very likely the case.
No worries we only have 5 yeas of the both of them. Wow, can that really be true?
trisha, what is your position? That the top 4 aren’t good enough? Or are you only talking about Kuroda?
The short porch in Right is the undoing of Tex.
Even Swish hit 2 opposite field HR’s today.
yankeefeminista April 28th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Against All Odds April 28th, 2012 at 9:18 pm Bret The Hitman April 28th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Phil phlaming out has hurt this rotation more than anything. Joba too. Out of IPK, Joba and Phil the front office somehow managed to keep the wrong to and dump the wrong one. That’s talent.
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Did Joba flame out or was his starting career cut short before it started? ____ Odds, don’t you know that any young Yankee pitcher who doesn’t get the chance to develop with the Yankeesbecause the Yankees don’t allow him to is an abject failure. We prefer other teams’ pitchers because they will never fail and will all be future aces
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Lol true
Even Swish hit 2 opposite field HR’s today.
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make that 1.
Who would have thought that a pitching staff as deep as ours was would be brought to this point so quickly ?
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Good thing it’s deep
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mick, next time sit in RF and if Teix hits a homer, throw it back.
Mick-
OK. But Pineda is gone now.
We all hope AP will be AP but we can’t be sure until we see him go at it for a while.
I’m all for giving Phelps a shot. I like the kid. I think he’s shown something.
I hope he works out at the back end.
I’m amazed that Hughes has had this much trouble.
I thought he would be a Man on a mission.
I figured once he got healthy again he’d take off. He hasn’t.
mick,
How’d you find the weather out there today? Was it comfortable taking in the game?
yf
you can’t deny tex has slipped as a hitter.
mick – agree and MTU – agree too and I think that’s basically what I’m saying. They need to move fast. Too much damage is being done elsewhere in the meantime.
And yeah, who would have believed it. What went from a burgeoning problem in having too many pitchers and not knowing what to do with them has quickly turned into the opposte.
Crazy.
weather was ok, no excuse for freddy’s failure, warmer than i thought it would be, at least in the sun in LF.
I think the rotation barring a trade or Roy Oswalt being signed should ultimately be this if Kuroda stinks through May:
Sabathia / Pettitte / Nova / Phelps / Hughes (Kuroda and Garcia traded)
4/5ths homegrown and cheap, 3/5ths young / under 30 years old.
D.J. Mitchell, a healthy Pineda, and a minor league contract veteran or two could challenge Phelps and Hughes for the #4 and #5 starter jobs next spring training for 5 or 6 pitchers battling for two rotation slots.
Garcia was going to be insurance, with the acquision of Pineda and Kuroda and Phil coming off what was going to be a winter of absolute dedication and a sure lock on winning 16-18 games according to management we were going to be just great as far as starting pitching.
Ironic a few games into the season it’s a mess and Andy who wasn’t even on the radar screen is now the best great hope. Maybe they should phone up Mussina and see if he wants to come back.
Trisha-
We had a lot of degrees of freedom when the season began not so much now.
Things have to start going right.
“Sitting in rightfield at chavez ravine to see this kid harper play and stratsburg on the hill.”
What a joy Pat M! You are seeing the first place Nats, with a 14-7 record, with their premier kid on the hill and their premier kid in the field. That’s some heady stuff!
Duh Innings Sabathia / Pettitte / Nova / Phelps / Hughes (Kuroda and Garcia traded)
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Man you are just obsessed with trading Kuroda, what a dumb move
i know it’s not a popular position but i believe hughes and joba as well as AJ have A.D.D. out there on the mound.
Really their concentration span is minimal.
Look at CC and Andy.
Even Nova.
They are singleminded out there. They can focus and it gets them thru jams.
“Trisha-
We had a lot of degrees of freedom when the season began not so much now.
Things have to start going right.”
A little mind boggling when you think about it, MTU. The thing that felt like our surest bet has turned into our biggest question mark.
Meanwhile, the Sux are leading the White Sox 1-0 in the bottom of the 8th. I think it was Lester pitching for the Sux.
Padilla is on the hill. Hopefully something will change quickly.
Mick, from the left side, absolutely. But I am still hoping for improvement…
Wow, Harper is a flop. He’s even worse than Montero. Can’t believe I rushed home to watch that. #whatawasteoftime
Guys who cant’t focus or concentrate properly cannot be starters as length is always an issue.
They are built for the pen.
There was talk of AJ to the pen and someday he could become a good reliever or even a closer, with his stuff and short attention span.
It’s not a crime.
Nope, Padilla got out of it.
So they are line for a sweep of the White Sox. Oh joy.
MTU April 28th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Mick-
OK. But Pineda is gone now.
We all hope AP will be AP but we can’t be sure until we see him go at it for a while.
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MTU,
I don’t see how a 23 year old who experienced a second-half drop off, lost velocity, and was entering his second year as a major league starter was more of a sure thing than Andy Pettitte achieving some semblance of a return to form here.
Granted, we started with a few more options, but I think what is reassuring is that even down a Hughes, Garcia, Pineda, the Yankees still have their top three starters intact, and the winningest pitcher in postseason history riding into town, plus Phelps and DJ Mitchell lurking.
If that’s not pretty sound, I don’t know what one’s reference point for pretty sound would be.
trisha-
That’s a good way to put it for sure.
“Mind boggling”.
Don’t worry about the Sux they’ll revert back to form and unlike us they have no pitching depth.
It’s time for a change in the GM position. 2008 has returned. The sad part is that Mo and Drob are not going to have the opportunity to shine in the WS..Rangers are superior.cash needs to go.
The SP problem is overblown.
It’s a Hughes/Freddy problem and that will be solved shortly.
MTU April 28th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Mick-
OK. But Pineda is gone now.
We all hope AP will be AP but we can’t be sure until we see him go at it for a while.
I’m all for giving Phelps a shot. I like the kid. I think he’s shown something.
I hope he works out at the back end.
I’m amazed that Hughes has had this much trouble.
I thought he would be a Man on a mission.
I figured once he got healthy again he’d take off. He hasn’t.
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There was never a lot of doubt about Austin hitting or not. He didn’t get a lot of mention because he had no position to call his own. Moving him to right field gave him that. he’s hit from the first day he signed. so far, NYYs look pretty smart in getting him in the 13th round.
Nick, I’m not watching, but given your sense of irony, am I to take it that Harper just went yard?
MTU, But unlike us the Sox have no Phelps or DJ to draw on… Or an Andy Pettitte to bring back. Also it is a long season and I see many back-end heros stepping to the fore.
Mick, Andy is in a trance when he pitches, utter tunnelvision; he takes no prisoners.
“Don’t worry about the Sux they’ll revert back to form and unlike us they have no pitching depth.”
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now
Peavy pitching a complete game for the White Sox.
Pitching depth is relative.
Freddy should not have been considered a starter.
The original staff was to be CC-Nova-Kuroda-Pineda-Hughes.
That’s it. Andy was a gift.
Don’t worry about the Sux they’ll revert back to form and unlike us they have no pitching depth.
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I think a refresher course on what pitching depth actually is might be in order.
GB-
thanks for responding.
He’s movin’ up the prospect list fast I’d bet.
Have you seen play the OF ? Any good ?
And yeah, you bet they look smart the way that kid is going.
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now
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The gal who sang that on American Idol, well that was her last song, I believe, as she has left the show.
Melkmanisinhotlanta April 28th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
It’s time for a change in the GM position. 2008 has returned. The sad part is that Mo and Drob are not going to have the opportunity to shine in the WS..Rangers are superior.cash needs to go.
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Cash has a new three year contract, he’s not going anywhere.
Mick-
True but that gift has now turned into a necessity.
YF-
I said what you said to Trisha about the Sux lack of depth.
GB, in a Q and A I read with Mark Newman, he said he was really pleased at how well Austin transitioned to RF, right from the get go, with surprisingly good D. They always loved the bat.
“MTU, But unlike us the Sox have no Phelps or DJ to draw on”
Um, actually they do. They have some really good pitching down below. And Aaron Cook is ready to be called up.
No, comebacker to Chad Billingsly. Different vein of irony.
Here’s some unironic news: I just heard that Hensley Meulens has been knighted by Queen Beatrix.
Sir Bam Bam!
http://www.csnbayarea.com/base.....eedID=2539
Sanchez is having the same issues with Charleston that Montero and Romine had…catcher’s interference calls against him. Had another one tonight (3 or 4 this year) and a throwing error 97 total errors this year). Two more steals against, one caught. He did steal one of his own (#6) and had a Ruben Rivera (caught stealing).
Williams had a 3-5 with a couple of RBI and Culver had 3 hits with a double and triple with 3 RBI.
Shump Shump
Something else that hasn’t been talked about much here. Cano is way off his BA also. Some bad luck as he has hit some hard shots for outs, but he’s not a .250 hitter.
Trisha, their best pitchers are in the lower minors, unlike ours.
MTU, this his first year…probably no worse than Swisher with more speed and a strong accurate arm.
Bottom of the 9th and Ace is pitching.
If there is any karmic justicwe, Ortiz’s cheating ways will cause this game to be lost by the Sux.
But I notice the baseball gods have a funnier way of dealing with the Sux. They let them think they are going to win it all until the zero hour. And then they pounce.
But again, want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now
is shump done for the playoffs like rose?
YF – they have some very good pitching in AAA.
I don’t know how major-league ready they are, except for Cook. But they have good pitching down there.
Jerry Hairston Jr. just made a wild diving catch. Then doubled off the runner at 2B.
Dead arm for Freddy and Phelps. Two starts too late. Now replace Pettitte for Hughes and you’re set.
GB-
Thanks again.
Do you think he gets the promo to Tampa at the half if keeps it up ?
Sure seems like he’s earnin’ it.
Yea poor Shumpert
Dead arm for Freddy and Phelps.
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The Red Sox do not have “really good pitching” close to the majors. Aaron Cook is not a system guy, but a hire who brings a 1.69 WHIP with him. Sure, he can very loosely be called “depth.”
One piece of satisfaction from today, they did whack Valverde pretty good. Game was pretty much out of reach, but they did get three runs off him and there wasn’t anything cheap about any of them. He threw 31 pitches also so Tomm might be a question mark.
2 outs in the bottom of the 9th and Ace looking like an ace.
PittsburghYankeeFan,
Never mind that. Hold Ray Shero at gunpoint lest he has ideas of a life without Jordan Staal.
PawSux have really good pitching at AAA. How close to the majors they are I don’t really know.
MTU, yeah, he and Williams both will get moved up by mid season…maybe sooner. For 20 year olds, they pretty polished hitters and smart base runners. I’m hoping that moving Heathcott out of center field when he returns will help keep him healthy.
valverde was saying to himself, “you put me in a mop up role, i give you mop up.”
saw that one coming…
he can’t go tmw, not that they will need him…they have a weaker lineup than many think
Sux win. 1-0, and 6 in a row. Unfortunately their SP has started to shape up.
The keys to the kingdom.
Trisha, saw the AA guys who graduated for Sux. Ranaudo wasn’t impressive, although haven’t seen him in a year. And Alex Wilson is probably the closest. Their top levels can’t compete with ours. Their best pitching prospect right now is Matt Barnes who is in A ball. But their lower farm system is good.
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 28th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
YF – they have some very good pitching in AAA.
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Huh?
No, they don’t.
Barnes is at least a few years away.
GB-
Yeah. Maybe that will help Heathcott a little.
How is Ravel Santana doing so far ?
YF, that’s why I said I don’t know major league ready they are. I know they are really high on a few of their starters. I saw one that was tremendous and I heard all the rumblings in the crowd about them. I’ll try to find out the names of the ones that were being touted.
Aaron Cook is ready to join their rotation. If he doesn’t his agent said he’s opting out of there.
Sox don’t have the hitting either to sustain anything.
No Ellsbury or Crawford. Youkilis is a shell of former self.
Only Pedroia Agon and Ortiz are reliable.
mick April 28th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
is shump done for the playoffs like rose?
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Yep. Torn ACL and meniscus.
I’m telling you. The Knicks are cursed.
Nick in SF April 28th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
No, comebacker to Chad Billingsly. Different vein of irony.
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Better luck next year for the Knicks.
Lin will be back.
They should keep Woodson.
Pop culture icons don’t resonate with me.
I have no idea who they are.
Trisha, yeah, let me know who you are referring to. Or here is the roster, if any of these pitchers ring a bell:
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats.....8;sid=t533
MTU April 28th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
GB-
Yeah. Maybe that will help Heathcott a little.
How is Ravel Santana doing so far ?
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Santana is still in XST. Center field at the lower levels is getting crowded. I’d guess if Segedin keeps hitting the way he is, he’ll be headed for Trenton soon, too.
GB-
Anybody new on your radar ?
Someone who hasn’t quite hit the radar screen yet.
Who needs scouts ? We’ve got you.
Fortunately we don’t have to worry about Shump Shump working his butt off in rehab like we do with Pineda but still devastating news for a player that became an instant fan favorite at the Garden.
I was going to drive to Hickory to see Campos pitch tonight but got tied up and couldn’t go….sounds like I would have been disappointed….but probably not with Mason or Tyler.
As I said in the previous thread…I wouldn’t be surprised if Freddy is having some shoulder weakness or soreness or whatever and is just trying to pitch threw it because he knows his job depends on it….maybe it is just dead arm but they need to DL him to figure it out and also to free up a spot on the roster for somebody that can get outs.
Phelps’s career minor league numbers 38-15, 2.61 ERA, 1.184 WHIP….about 2 walks and 7 K’s per 9 innings…..in about 500 innings. This guy didn’t just pop up….he’s been succeeding under the radar for awhile now at every level…..he knows how to pitch and they need to give him a shot.
Watching the Dodgers and Nats…..Strasburg is nasty
davis/bibby, melo, stat, tyson, fields
jr, novak, jeffries
better off against the bulls, esp w/out rose
6ers were smart to tank
YF, thanks. My computer decided to shut down on me.
Well it seems that these guys are more seasoned, but all the better for them and the Sux. They have Justin Germano, Cook as I said is already 3-0, Ross Ohlendorf, and Brandon Duckworth. All are doing well and are ML ready.
Harper on deck in LA.
knicks will be lucky to win a game and that could get woody fired
MTU April 28th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
GB-
Anybody new on your radar ?
Someone who hasn’t quite hit the radar screen yet.
Who needs scouts ? We’ve got you.
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Not many of the hitters you don’t know, but, another relief pitcher named Phil Wetherell could move pretty fast. Hard thrower, and other assortment of pitches. Zach Varce was moved to the pen from the rotation and seems to have found a home. Throws about as hard and starter Caleb Cothen is a David Phelps/Adam Warren type. Outstanding control.
I’ll never forget watching Strasburg’s ML debut and being absolutely blown away and totally understanding why he was the #1 draft pick in the majors.
Tuned in to the Nats game. My heart and soul team (adopted heart and soul team that is; obviously the Yanks are my heart and soul).
So proud of how far they’ve come.
Think I’ll watch an inning or so of Strasburg and call it a night. I’m baseballed out tonight and not in a good way.
GB-
Thanks for the updates. Vey much appreciated.
Just what we need more relievers.
After watching Strasburg, it is clear a starter can succeed with only two pitches. They better be awfully good. All fastballs and curves. He looks like Nolan Ryan.
you wonder if Strasburg will attempt to find that “Cruising speed” like Verlander has instead of just throwing 97 the whole game…..he throws 97 pretty free and easy though…his stuff is insane….
MTU April 28th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
GB-
Thanks for the updates. Vey much appreciated.
Just what we need more relievers.
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Not mant Strasburgs or Harpers on the back end of the drafts. People seem to forget that.
***many***
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 28th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
YF, thanks. My computer decided to shut down on me.
Well it seems that these guys are more seasoned, but all the better for them and the Sux. They have Justin Germano, Cook as I said is already 3-0, Ross Ohlendorf, and Brandon Duckworth. All are doing well and are ML ready.
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These are not prospects. They’re AAAA pitchers in their 30s. Ohlendorf has had shoulder problems and was originally a Yankee prospect and a Princeton product.
you can survive with 2 pitches if 1) they are really good pitches 2) you can command them….Strasburg throws more than that but Randy Johnson really threw 2 pitches and he’s one of the best ever…..but again both of those pitches were plus plus pitches. Most pitchers don’t have more than 2 “good pitches” on most nights anyway.
Looks like Cashman has ruined Ryan Zimmerman, too.
How about that.
Ohlendorff was originally a ‘Zona prospect. He came with Gonzalez and others for R. Johnson.
Strasburg lead off double; maybe he can bat at the bottom of our lineup.
“Strasburg lead off double; maybe he can bat at the bottom of our lineup.”
LF
I love our “power” batting order with RISP
Teixeira, M NYY 1B - 20 7 5 2 0 1 9 2 5 0 0 .250 .333 .500 .833
4 Rodriguez, A NYY 3B - 19 10 4 0 0 1 6 4 2 1 0 .211 .400 .368 .768
6 Cano, R NYY 2B - 18 13 3 1 0 0 2 3 2 0 0 .167 .286 .222 .508
Yeah Arod and Tex sure carry this team with their 50+mil per year between the 2 of them. If Hal wants to cut payroll, he should try and convince one of them to move on from NY. I doubt either one of them would ever consider a trade.. they like the big lights to much.
Lastly, I miss Gardner. Makes pretty much the least amount of $ and the most one of the most productive.
Strasburg vs Kemp….Kemp had no chance
Yea, Ohlendorf originally came from Arizona.
He’s no longer a prospect, nor are any of those other guys.
When you throw 98 with a 90 mph CU with identical arm speed it’s really not fair
Cano showing his true talent with his .167 RISP. I sure hope we don’t sign him to an 8 year 20Mil or more deal.. I say the Yanks should play hardball, and offer him 4 years at 15m/16mil and tell Boras take it or leave it. If he wants to go play for the Sox I’m sure they’ll pay more, if he wants to stay a yankee well, the “im gonna tax the yankees hard” payday mentality is backwards..
Instead of player getting paid more to play with the best franchise in sports, it should be that they are willing to take less to do so.
99 mph 4-seamer?
Yeah, good luck w/that.
“These are not prospects”
I don’t believe I ever used the word prospects. And I’m well aware of who Ross Ohlendorf is.
YF – so what I was saying is they could plug any of those guys in, in an emergency. Depth is depth. To me that’s a lot of depth.
I’m looking for plug-ins also, not necessary the rest of our lives players.
J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 28th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
YF, thanks. My computer decided to shut down on me.
Well it seems that these guys are more seasoned, but all the better for them and the Sux. They have Justin Germano, Cook as I said is already 3-0, Ross Ohlendorf, and Brandon Duckworth. All are doing well and are ML ready.
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These are not prospects. They’re AAAA pitchers in their 30s. Ohlendorf has had shoulder problems and was originally a Yankee prospect and a Princeton product.
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Yeah, these guys are journeymen/filler and not prospects. The closest Sux pitching prospect to the majors is Alex Wilson with PawSux. He actually pitched at your Tuesday game, Trisha but long after you had left.
YF & Blake-
We already have a capable proven pitcher who could hit in the bottom of the line-up–Sabathia.
Maybe GB7 can chime in. Who is/was the best hitting pitcher of all time, not counting Babe Ruth?
They’re not “depth” the way Phelps and Mitchell are “depth”.
You can’t just throw something against a wall and expect no one to notice.
They have no AAA pitchers who are “really good” and “close to the majors.”
That’s the point.
The Red Sox’s pitching depth matching up with the Yankees as a premise is laughable.
Laughable.
NATS!!!!!!
Trisha, yeah, they can plug em in but they wouldn’t be learn term replacements. Sux don’t have the kind of upper level talent we have at AAA with our big 5 is all I am saying. Lower rungs though Sux definitely have talent. Matt Barnes is their equivalent of Campos. I’d actually go see him pitch myself.
*long term
“They have no AAA pitchers who are “really good” and “close to the majors.”
That’s the point.”
That’s your point. It wasn’t mine.
“The Red Sox’s pitching depth matching up with the Yankees as a premise is laughable.
Laughable.”
Then laugh.
I don’t know who the best would be….but a couple of more recent ones that were pretty good were Carlos Zambrano and Mike Hampton
blake April 28th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
“Strasburg lead off double; maybe he can bat at the bottom of our lineup.”
LF
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Missing Gardy much?
YT, yep C. is always a bona fide option.
“Missing Gardy much?”
much
Micah Owings?
“Trisha, yeah, they can plug em in but they wouldn’t be learn term replacements. Sux don’t have the kind of upper level talent we have at AAA with our big 5 is all I am saying. ”
Gotcha YF. I guess I was more thinking the here and now, and the way the mini Sux are eating up the league, they definitely have some journeymen they could plug in. I’m looking plug-ins for right now. It’s good to know that we have kids that are part of our future though.
Harper just hit a missile off the wall in CF
Woo hoo! Bryce Harper’s first ML hit is a double!
was a good AB too….fouled off a good 3-2 CU then got a fastball up and crushed it
Harper using silver bats-expects a Silver Slugger award someday?
Nice swing for a double.
This reminds me of the emergence of the Rays, how they languished in last place for so long but with their draft picks finally put together a quality team.
Same with the Nats.
Probably takes a little more than top draft picks, but they sure don’t hurt!
lol, I missed the AB but saw Harper dashing around the bases with his hair flying. Congrats to him; will he now tweet from 2nd base?
Stasburg almost homered!
Can someone give Harper a major league haircut now?
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 28th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
“They have no AAA pitchers who are “really good” and “close to the majors.”
That’s the point.”
That’s your point. It wasn’t mine.
“The Red Sox’s pitching depth matching up with the Yankees as a premise is laughable.
Laughable.”
Then laugh.
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Well, it’s a bit hard to keep a straight face. You have been carrying on and on about how dire the state of Yankee pitching is, and then you posit that the Red Sox have pitching depth that compares with the Yankees’. If Adam Warren were at Pawtucket, he would be not there, because he’d be in Boston. Warren is worlds better than anything they have at AAA. Warren is a real prospect. Not a frontline guy, but a real prospect.
Think about that. Warren would be the pride of Peter Gammons if he were a Pawtucket guy. Here, he’s likely behind Phelps and Mitchell as a callup and isn’t on the 40-man roster.
Trisha, now we just need our position players to get to the upper levels…
It would be cool to go see the Yanks at Nats in the June series, especially see the game vs. Strasburg is we face him.
*if
Adam LaRoche had shoulder surgery for a torn labrum last year.
I just can’t get over watching the Nats and seeing what a professional team they’ve become, how they’ve really come into their own. This has been coming for the last three years or so but it looks like it’s finally come together. I love seeing this.
I wish all real lesser-than teams could go through the same kind of metamorphosis. I wish it for KC and Pittsburgh (I know both had their hay day but it’s been a while).
“Trisha, now we just need our position players to get to the upper levels…”
Nobody in AAA? What the heck have we been doing down there?
Take him for an X-Ray.
harper just attacks the baseball. showboating with the cap flip off his head on his way to second base. willie mays used to flip the cap also.
a few more times of showboating and Harper can use some of his bonus to visit his dentist when a pitcher drills him.
Uh oh.
Ice water Strasburg. And he’s still a baby really.
You don’t see many curves like Strasburg’s. Ryan and Blylevin like. Plus, he sits at 97.
a few more times of showboating and Harper can use some of his bonus to visit his dentist when a pitcher drills him.
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That would be cruel. Maybe a proctologist.
Runner Hairston pulled an A-Rod and swiped the ball away to score on that pinpoint throw from Harper.
Trisha, we’ve mostly focused on pitching, and we’ve traded away our best position players closest to the majors, in particular Tabata and AJax. Not that we have had such a bumper crop. Of the current group, Laird is probably our best prospect at AAA. Romine, Joseph (blocked, not enough pop for 2nd) are both hurt. Montero was traded… Adams, Zoilo are at AA and could move up. Melky Mesa needs to hit breaking balls better and be more consistent. But we have great talent at lower levels.
If Jeter continues to play like this the Yankee may reconsider the need to keep Nunez as their SS of the future. Nunez + Hughes might get a pretty good pitcher from somebody.
Most likely they will continue to be patient with Hughes and give him a chance to be the #5 starter. Garcia may have played himself off of the team. But he may get an opportnity to win the long relief job. If Phelps doesn’t become the #5 starter he will probbly go back down to AAA to get regular turns starting.
Hopefully CC, Kuroda, Nova and Andy will become a very solid 1-4 so #5 won’t matter as much. It is still only April they have lots of time to figure out the rotation.
austinmac April 28th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
You don’t see many curves like Strasburg’s. Ryan and Blylevin like. Plus, he sits at 97.
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Different types of curve balls but, Koufax had the best of the hard curves and Camilo Pasqual had a Blyleven type curve and was Blyleven’s equal. Only saw Herb Score’s and Bob Feller’s curves on tape but they looked nasty, as did Sudden Sam Mcdowell’s.
Good night all.
Tabata’s .200 average and zero power doesn’t impress. He just never lived up to what he was showing in Charleston.
The biggest question is what will we get from Pettitte. Everyone seems to just think he is going to be our savior. Lets not be fool ourselves… Andy is nothing close to a sure lock. That being said, its hard to picture him being any worse than garcia or hughes. At this point, our offense completely checks out of the game when those guys are on the mound. I really think we should take a look as oswalt. It will obviously take him time to get ready for the majors, and he obviously has a lot of questions marks as well. But, it’s not like this guy is 38 years old. He is still young enough and has the track record, to be a trusted veteran for this staff. Who knows, maybe he is impressive enough, that we can even bring him back next year.
Maybe there are more viable options than oswalt, but i really wish we would make some sort of move. Pitching was suppose to be this teams major strength, but it has been the thing that has killed us early in the season. Don’t expect us to go on any tears, or long winning streaks, with this current rotation. It’s sad when you already know your team is going to lose when 2 of your 5 starters hit the mound. I thought we were getting rid of that when we traded AJ.
GreenBeret-
When i was at spring training this year, I had dugouts seats and Tabata signed a baseball for me and gave me a bunch of gum from the dugout. He will always be my BOY. LOL
YF – thanks for the info. I know that I can always come to you for timely info on our minors. That’s a good thing. GB also. It’s good to have that kind of resource. I do mainly spend my time looking at the majors.
OT question. Tell me what you think of this. Do you think it’s possible to take something as a time-release and not have any negative reaction and take it full strength and have a reaction? I’m trying to isolate the cause of an allergic reaction I’m having. It’s the same one I had in Florida. It’s come back again. I take curcumin as one of my supplements. Up until a few weeks ago, I always took it time-release. They ran out of time-release so I ordered it regular dose, but at the same strength as the time-release. Or would you think that if you were going to get an allergic reaction to it, it wouldn’t matter whether it was time-release? Just curious as to what you think about that. Thanks.
“The biggest question is what will we get from Pettitte. Everyone seems to just think he is going to be our savior. Lets not be fool ourselves… Andy is nothing close to a sure lock”
Tab, I couldn’t agree more. He might be lights out, and he could also be a dud. I’m hopeful, but I’m not betting my life savings on him.
I am more concerned about Andy staying healthy han I am about him being inneffective but you are correct there are no guarantees that he will pitch well.
That’s another one we gave away YF. Tyler Clippard.
Trisha, not the person to ask about medications. I take tylonol and that’s about it. Once I finished the chemo, I just don’t take anything. The only time release that I know about is the time release scene with Woody Allen in Casino Royale.
GB –
Actually I was asking YF, but wasn’t clear enough in the way I asked it I guess.
Thanks anyway though.
Wow, what a game Pat M is getting to see.
You’re welcome, Trisha.
I am not sure re: the curcumin, but you could be having a allergic reaction to the regular dose vs. time release. Are you able to switch back to the time-release to see if you still have the reaction? Also is there anything in the regular dose one that isn’t in the time release one that you might be allergic to?
I think there is a good chance Pettitte will be better than Garcia and Hughes currently are. Past that though, I don’t know, wait and see.
I feel bad for Garcia because I like him, but he has absolutely nothing right now. He is throwing bp.
it’s early, but every team in the AL East is .500 or better (only division in baseball that can say that)
the losses of Ellsbury and Crawford, and that bullpen, is going to end up killing the Sox, IMO… but not bad winning 6 straight (even if it’s the Twinkies and White Sox… still a nice run they are on)
Yanks will get on a mid-season run, as they always seem to do, and win the division by 5 or more games though.
Frankly, it seems like the Yanks start slow every year.
Trisha-
When i was in arlington for the Rangers series, I noticed one major difference in the two teams. The Rangers get guys on, move them over, and get them in, with very high efficiency.A lot people talk about Tex, Grandy, Swish, and how at the end of the year ” The Production is there”. Sure, you might see a 40 homer, 100+ rbi line, but make no mistake those low batting averages our a HUGE KEY. Even when the rangers best hitters arent driving guys home, they are the ones getting on base to start the innings. As much as we need pitching, we also need those guys to get on base more, and for this to become a more efficient offense. The homers our great, and so are the RBI’s, But leadoff hits to start a inning off are also a very huge thing. When you look up and down our lineup, you see guys hitting in the low to mid 200′s. The rangers seem to have multiple people hitting above a .300 clip. I think that is a major reason they have had everyone number the last couple of years. They seem to have a get on base first attitude, we seem to have a 3 run homer each time up type of attitude.
I don’t have any time-release left but I will go to the website and read the ingredients on the time-release. That’s a good idea. I’ve also decided to stop taking the regular curcumin for the next 3 or 4 days to see whether or not the rash goes away. I’ve been taking benadryl for the itch but have no desire to go back on prednisone. I’m thinking it should go away on its own if I’m not ingesting the allergen. Thanks for the idea about the ingredients and also for your opinion on time-release v. regular dose. I’d like to think that’s it. I’m certainly hoping it is!
Boston Dave- I don’t really think we have gotten off to a slow start though. We have played pretty damn good baseball since starting out 0-3. We didn’t lose to the rangers because we were struggling, They beat us because they are simply a better team right now. Our lineup can score, and our pen is lights out, but we have not gotten what we need from our rotation. This team has shown the ability to score massive amounts, and comeback in games. The rotation has killed this team, and the morale of the hitters at times. Jeter looks like a damn mvp, swish has given us a lot of power production, same with grandy, and even tex has had a good april for him. This team has actually played pretty well all season. However, its hard to get rolling when you have two starters that completely tank games by the 1st or second. You won’t see us going on any sort of winning streak until we replace our 4-5 starters.
Bryce Harper already getting boo’d?
Didn’t the Sux make quick work of Adam Laroche several years back? I think they made a big deal out of signing him and then as quickly traded him for someone else, something like that.
Guess their scouting isn’t so great either.
Harper with the tie breaking rbi in the 9th.
BD (Boston Dave) April 28th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
it’s early, but every team in the AL East is .500 or better (only division in baseball that can say that)
the losses of Ellsbury and Crawford, and that bullpen, is going to end up killing the Sox, IMO… but not bad winning 6 straight (even if it’s the Twinkies and White Sox… still a nice run they are on)
Yanks will get on a mid-season run, as they always seem to do, and win the division by 5 or more games though.
Frankly, it seems like the Yanks start slow every year.
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NYYs have had a fair first month with 2 games to go, considering the teams they’ve played. Only Minnesota and Baltimore weren’t supposed to be pennant contenders and Baltimore is shocking people so far. Should have taken 3-4 from the Twins, though.
Poor Jonathan Broxton. Another Torre victim. There should be a class action suit against that guy.
Mavs up by 7 with 3 mins to go!! WOO
Tabbert/GB7,
I definitely agree. They are playing .550 baseball and have had to play all FIVE of the other legit (preseason) playoff contenders in just their first 7 series.
AND that’s with the rotation off to a rough start.
I’ve said all along I see the Yanks winning this division with ease. I still see that.
Yanks are on pace to win 89 games and their rotation as a whole has been terrible.
When, not if, their rotation stabilizes a bit, they are going to run full steam ahead and not look back.
But I think we all agree, it’s up to the rotation to get on track and make that happen.
“I’ve said all along I see the Yanks winning this division with ease. I still see that.”
As do I. The only unknown to me is what the makeup of the SP will be when we take the division.
what a game going on in OKC
Mama mia.
Pat M stormed the field????
“what a game going on in OKC”
What is OKC?
Nick – LOL!
Nats closer gonna blow it.
Good that Billingsly and Strasburg are no longer eligible for the win. Now it’s just a matter of which reliever is on the hook.
I’d like to think that Rodriguez pulls it out. Just because I want to believe in the ability to dig down and find it. And wouldn’t it be a wonderful way for it to end? It sure would be a surprise at this point.
Wow.
Wow twice.
Not the smartest base running by Loney.
“What is OKC?’
Clue: it looks mighty pretty.
If you miss it, you’ll see Amorillo, then Gallup, New Mexico.
They didn’t say anything about the field runner having a walker. Couldn’t have been Pat.
OH
MY
GOD
If you visit OKC, gotta stop in Commerce and Big Cabin first.
Durant
Oh, Henry!
Cash needs to trade Pineda for Harper and get redemption.
This is just terrible. Just terrible.
Something I noticed when Strasburg just came up, and I noticed this season that I don’t like and that’s Strasburg’s show of disdain toward his teammates if something happens he doesn’t like. He better can that attitude. I don’t care who he is, nobody appreciates that from a teammate.
I have no idea what either of the hints mean, nick or GB.
Oklahoma City?
If so I got it from Commerce and Big Cabin, thanks to the wonders of the internet.
Why does it look mighty pretty? Is that some kind of lyric?
OKC=Oklahoma City
Okay. Never knew the words to Route 66.
But good hints both!
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 29th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Okay. Never knew the words to Route 66.
But good hints both!
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Watch ME TV on sunday nights and Buzz and Todd will give you a tour of Route 66 in their 1961 ‘Vette.
Man why couldn’t Kemp have waited till this upcoming off season to sign a huge contract. He would’ve looked great in pinstripes.
Matt Kemp walks off – chants of “MVP” as he rounds the bases – pretty thrilling stuff! Wow!
That’s a new sight that is uncommon in Dodger stadium. fans still at the park after the 7th inning.
Shumpert is hurt? Wow, he’s fragile…….hope he’ll be ok for next year
“Watch ME TV on sunday nights and Buzz and Todd will give you a tour of Route 66 in their 1961 ‘Vette.”
I’m going to watch it! I especially want to hear the song.
I want to say this: I am very impressed with Joe Girardi this season since his initial embarrassing mistakes. He has handled the bullpen beautifully and gotten the team through some tough stretches with creative managing.
trisha, the song wasn’t part of the show, except a jazzed up version (no lyrics.) Bobby Troup wrote the song right after WWII and Nat King Cole recorded it. This is Natalie Cole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrNzqc1ZMRo
great game. kemp is the games best player and should have been the mvp in 2011. time to hit the stadium club for some grub and drinks, could be a long night.
Apparently, D.J. Mitchell is getting called up. He’s from my hometown of Winston-Salem, and a bunch of my Facebook friends who know him have been posting statuses about flying up to New York and going to Yankee Stadium to see him tomorrow. So, not much of a surprise, but it looks like he’ll be the reliever coming up tomorrow. Just thought I’d share that with you all. I don’t know him personally, but I’m definitely excited for him.
Evening, Pat. Quite a game to watch tonight, huh? Had a little of everything. I take it that it wasn’t you running on the field.
If Mitchell is coming up, who is going down? I’d guess Eppley?
Eppley cuz he and Phelps pitched yesterday, thanks to Garcia being awful.
If Mitchell is getting called up then my guess is Freddy is hitting the DL for a shoulder issue or kitchen knife incident…..Phelps to the rotation….Mitchell to long man.
Wonder where the Yankees would be record-wise if they actually had 2 decent starters instead of Hughes and Garcia.
Mitchell getting called up must mean just that, Blake. I do enjoy watching Phelps pitch. It makes such a difference when a pitcher can throw something besides a fastball on a 2-0 count. His stuff, while not exciting, seems workable. I caanot bear to watch Garcia again. Hughes has been hard enough to watch.
We’ll see if they are ready to go as far as dl’ing Garcia.
Are there any sort of rules for putting players on the DL? Different rules for different DL lengths? For some you need a doctor’s report? This subject comes up once in a while but I can’t remember.
And Matt Kemp proves again he is the far superior player to lazy Cano. He does not deserve the big contract.
And you gotta love people saying the Yanks will get on a roll because…well, just because they’re the Yanks. There is no “roll” to be had with this rotten of starting pitching. There is not one single guy that can dominate a game like Lester did last night. CC is no more than a 7 innings, 4 runs allowed guy at best, which is a number two starter.
DFTT folks just remember that.
“Man why couldn’t Kemp have waited till this upcoming off season to sign a huge contract. He would’ve looked great in pinstripes.”
Kemp is a legit superstar. And not just in reputation, either. He produces, unlike Tex, Arod and most of the rest of the Yankee lineup.
Kemp hits for average. Kemp hits for power. And he hits in the clutch. Just a great player.
DanBarbarisi Yanks have called up Dj Mitchell for Sundays game. Not sure of the countermove yet.
Our depth is being tested early on, let’s see what the kids do. I’m reminded of the Hughes/IPK/Joba experiment, but I think this time will go better.
What’s going to happen…Phelps starts, pretty much stinks, and the shills say he was nervous so the rotten performance didn’t mean anything.