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Yankees schedule July 7 doubleheader in Boston

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 01, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

To make up for last weekend’s rainout, the Yankees and Red Sox will play a doubleheader at Fenway Park on Saturday, July 7. It’s the middle game of a three-game series, with an off day the previous Thursday and the all-star break beginning the following Monday.

The first game will start at 12:35 p.m. The second game will begin at 7:15 as originally scheduled.

Fans holding tickets to the April 22 game may use those tickets for the 12:35 p.m. game on July 7.

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239 Responses to “Yankees schedule July 7 doubleheader in Boston”

  1. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 11:30 am

    That would be a fun day in Boston. At least we have off days on the 5th and after the weekend, teams are off for the ASB.

  2. charlestonchew May 1st, 2012 at 11:31 am

    I love when the Yankees hitters play in Fenway. It’s like the lefties suddenly realize that they should go the other way and the righties have a chance at pop-up homeruns.

    And I’m sure Ortiz and Gonzalez are big fans of NYS, too.

  3. Triple Short of a Cycle May 1st, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Those guys may be former players, but how closely do they follow the Yankees, really? They have no idea what’s in the system, for example

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    I have been on record with hating this trade but to say the Yankees have a ton of pitching talent coming through the pipeline is hopeful at best. Banuelos and Betances have been regressing for a while, Kuroda was never a long term solution so other then CC and Nova who were these other top of the rotation guys we have?

  4. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 11:32 am

    AndrewMarchand Jeter will be on ESPN NY at 12:45. Sabathia will be on at 2:15 p.m. Remember 98.7 FM now.

  5. charlestonchew May 1st, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Also — and I know nobody else wants to say this, because it sounds kind of crazy, but right now D-Rob is clearly a better pitcher than Rivera. He has been for over a year now. He is ‘best in baseball’ kind of good and Mo is quite old.

    Having said that, Mo in his prime and D-Rob in his prime, Mo is the clear winner. But we’ll see what D-Rob does over time. He’s so filthy nasty. God, I love it. What other pitcher can you almost guarantee will strike out the side night in and night out?

  6. charlestonchew May 1st, 2012 at 11:36 am

    “I have been on record with hating this trade but to say the Yankees have a ton of pitching talent coming through the pipeline is hopeful at best. Banuelos and Betances have been regressing for a while, Kuroda was never a long term solution so other then CC and Nova who were these other top of the rotation guys we have?”
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    Triple —

    I think the point is not that we have “top of the rotation” guys coming through the system. We have one guy who is clearly top of the rotation and a handful of guys who project somewhere near the middle to back of the rotation and a few who have the potential to be a #1 or #2.

    Banuelos and Betances will figure it out, or they won’t. By the time they fail to figure it out, we will have 2-3 prospects with a similar ceiling and billing on their way to AAA and the Mitchell/Phelps/Warren trio will be pitching somewhere in the majors. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cashman traded for a guy whose contract is close to up sometime near the trade deadline.

  7. blake May 1st, 2012 at 11:37 am

    JAP,

    I agree with your post…..the issue is that you and I aren’t normal Yankee fans…..normal yankee fans….the ones that fill a lot of the seats and buy a lot of the merchandise want to be entertained and want to see star players as much or more than actually winning….George understood that and built his empire on both winning and aquiring stars that would film the stands……that’s all.I was saying….doesn’t mean you should go out and sign every big name….but it does mean that if Hal wants to make the most money then he needs to keep those average fans interested ans entertained. JMO…….I do think the current team is somewhat bland…..I coukd care less about that because what I care about is the baseball and winning……seeing David Phelps make his first start is exciting to me…..but I would guess a lot of fans could care less…..he’s minor leaguer X to a lot of folks.

  8. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Triple, regressing? They are a couple of games into the season. Look at the boxscores and see what exactly they have been doing vs. looking at some small sample numbers without qualifiers. Further, Betances has been pitching in 40 degrees with swirling winds, Banuelos got hurt likely as per Nardi because the cold weather stiffenened him up. He is back tomorrow. Warm weather should help them both, plus just getting reps; it is still friggin’ April. If you just look at numbers, you’d think Bryan Mitchell stunk up the joint yesterday instead of pitching almost perfectly through 5. People need to understand the process of developing pitchers vs. having knee-jerk reactions to non-qualifed, sss stats. We shall see how it all shakes down, but the pessimism for our own pitchers is troubling. And DePaula once he starts pitching may move quickly.

  9. Hassey May 1st, 2012 at 11:40 am

    what is it about this blog that generates so much venom among everyone? Even towards the Yanks? If you want to see a blog that has extremely insightful posters, and is at the same time funny and lighthearted, check out the NY Rangers LoHud blog. It can and should be the same way here

  10. Triple Short of a Cycle May 1st, 2012 at 11:42 am

    People need to understand the process of developing pitchers vs. having knee-jerk reactions to non-qualifed, sss stats We shall see how it all shakes down, but the pessimism for our own pitchers is troubling.

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    What is troubling is our success when it comes to developing starting pitchers. Their walk rates have also been troubling.

  11. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Blake, you should have heard the buzz in the air at the Stadium in September when Montero came to the plate. It’d be nice to have a hitter that generates that kind of buzz to anchor our lineup for the duration going forward. Cano does, Alex used to… Maybe in 3 years if half those kids develop we can have that kind of excitement contribute to our winning. 2009 sure was fun with all the kids contributing.

  12. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle May 1st, 2012 at 11:32 am
    Those guys may be former players, but how closely do they follow the Yankees, really? They have no idea what’s in the system, for example

    —————————————————————-

    I have been on record with hating this trade but to say the Yankees have a ton of pitching talent coming through the pipeline is hopeful at best. Banuelos and Betances have been regressing for a while, Kuroda was never a long term solution so other then CC and Nova who were these other top of the rotation guys we have?
    ///

    I don’t believe that Banuelos and Betances are regressing. They’re two young pitchers in development that just got to AAA. I think they are both learning. I have seen Betances’ last two starts at Lehigh Valley in person. LHV is one of the better hitting teams in AAA. Betances has 43 IP in AAA only. Yet he gave up an opposite field double in the first inning of five, and, even though he lost his CB at times on a cold, windy night, he did not give up another hit.

    He had control problems, but they got an early run against him and couldn’t get him to give in when he got in trouble through BBs. We’re barely into the season, which has been full of cold weather starts for all the AAA staff. The arms strength isn’t even fully there, yet.

    Banuelos got hurt because of the cold, according to Contreras. He’s been working on a cutter, per Aldred. These kids are working on stuff: ‘regression’ implies they aren’t learning anything but going backwards. I did not see that in either Betances’ start I attended. The stuff is there, the ability to make big pitches with guys on is there.

    They’re not ready to pitch in the majors. Why would they be, with barely any AAA innings between them? Let them work under Aldred for the balance of the year before deciding that they are not making progress. Let’s try to remember they have jumped a whole level.

  13. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Well, the next wave are the guinea pigs because we have finally committed to leaving the high ceiling pitchers down there long enough. As for walks, too early in the season and too cold to worry about them right now. But yes, they have to improve, especially FB command over the season, and I expect them to. But the walks usually are happening in first or last inning of a pitcher’s outing when he is a little out of whack to start or tiring at the end. I put more stake in seeing what is happening vs. just looking at uninformative numbers.

  14. blake May 1st, 2012 at 11:47 am

    “Blake, you should have heard the buzz in the air at the Stadium in September when Montero came to the plate”

    Yup…sometimes the buzz comes from within…….I don’t think Hal should be just like George….because we all know George had his flaws and warts…… but I don’t think the Yanks would have felt pressure to trade Montero to get pitching if George were still around……they wouldn’t have had to compromise one area to fix another…..

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Hassey,

    The “venom” comes from people resisting others’ right to express their views.

  16. Warning Track Power May 1st, 2012 at 11:48 am

    The Chavez HR last night was impressive. Did not think he still had power to right center field.
    If only our boy Tex could do that.
    Once Gardner returns we all know Chavez will not get as many at bats, but I’m fine with that. Chavez knows his role. He’s a veteran player and a professional. Valuable asset to the team.

  17. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 11:48 am

    And let’s see how Phelps and DJ do, and how the traded away Noesi fares tonight. And we did develop Nova… but he always had the plus stuff. However improved his command and the slider to get more swings and misses. Let’s see what we do with the next wave. SP development isn’t yet fatal, and other teams’ young pitchers aren’t better than ours until they prove they are better than ours, to quote Yogi. ;)

  18. pat May 1st, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Andy clearing another hurdle to his return. Very stealth.

    TJQuinnESPN: Pettitte had been expected to testify after McNamee or at the end of the prosecution’s case, but gov’t has him today.

  19. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 11:50 am

    randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 11:38 am
    “Well, here’s the context: we already have pitching, and could have just signed Kuroda (if Darvish was out of their realm), and kept Montero, and have been better for it.”

    j.a.pru-

    the yankees really have relief pitching.

    i actually think relief pitching may be more important to the kind of team the yankees historically are because once they get a lead by bashing the ball, they need to close out the deal.

    mariano comes the closest to perfection the yankees could have ever gotten. even though starters throw more innings in a year. certain relief pitchers throw more important innings.

    i woud be more open to a “pitching wins” philosophy” if it differentiated starting and relief pitching.
    i love how strong the yankees are in the 7th , 8th , and 9th innings.

    cashman fell in love with the approach theo was taking. he thought that was the direction of baseball. well theo is out and cashman may be well on the way if one more big thing blows up in his face.

    there’s another nuanced trend going on. there are the stat guys in texas and tampa who seem smarter than the stat guys in new york and boston. all i know is that the yankees , even though they are still winning, are trending downward at the moment because of a management that is stick in five years ago and not really with it with the new realities of the game.

    the game has changed with all the young starts being signed up long term. the yankees can’t juts buy low hanging fruit the way they used to when they need an apple or orange.

  20. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Where do you see “venom” right now, Hassey? Can you provide an example?

  21. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 11:53 am

    seeing David Phelps make his first start is exciting to me…..but I would guess a lot of fans could care less…..he’s minor leaguer X to a lot of folks.
    ///

    Blake, just trying to make a distinction between the ‘entertainment’ type and the fan who appreciates and is excited by young talent.

    Tank wrote a good post about fans who respond to the more Back Page sensationalist stuff, and later in it, talked about witnessing the exciting genesis of a core of young players. My point is, I think those are two different groups.

    I am very excited about Phelps’ start, too. Hughes is another example of two different kinds of fans: there are those who just would like him to disappear. Others are interested to see them send him down to work on his curve or find that 3rd pitch…that sort of thing…

  22. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 11:54 am

    And Theo realized his staunch run prevention approach wasn’t exactly working in Boston and had to make adjustments. It’ll be interesting to see what our next two biggest moves are…

  23. blake May 1st, 2012 at 11:55 am

    I think the Yanks need to add someone to the organization that has had success in a small market with a strict budget……

  24. Triple Short of a Cycle May 1st, 2012 at 11:56 am

    there’s another nuanced trend going on. there are the stat guys in texas and tampa who seem smarter than the stat guys in new york and boston

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    and just like Cash got Jealous of Theo and started chasing him I could see him doing the same thing with Daniels and Friedman some 5 years down the road but by that time they might not be worth copying.

    Kind of like the way we do airport security here. Always chasing the latest attempt instead of doing more forward type thinking

  25. Hassey May 1st, 2012 at 11:56 am

    YankeeFem – None right now, it was just in general. Youse guys know better than me that it comes out during the game threads.

  26. Against All Odds May 1st, 2012 at 11:58 am

    but I don’t think the Yanks would have felt pressure to trade Montero to get pitching if George were still around

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    If George was still around CJ or Yu would have been a Yankee.

  27. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 11:47 am

    “it could be like when your watching a live sporting event and you listen to the commentators and they flat out lie about what you’re seeing.”

    you mean like how cnbc led the rally cries for the economy as they said nothing about the problems with credit default swaps and aig.

    it’s like i always say, “question authority”

    so how did our bet come out last night? there were some adventures out there in the outfield but all’s well that ends well :)
    —————————————

    Exactly, randy. I didnt even catch the whole game yesterday but I still watch Michael Kay last night tell America that the Yankees converted Alfanso Soriano to play the OF. And thats just a matter of a pure factual error thats understandable. But when I hear some guys commentating on the games I watch, whether it be hockey, football or baseball, its incredible how little credit they give the viewers.

    Sometimes, they literally speak as if people are not also watching the games.

  28. MTU May 1st, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Randy-

    IMO you cannot simply always outslug your opponents.

    I know you look to Yankee history and tradition and it is a glorious one.

    But many of those teams also had fairly excellent pitching whether it was homegrown or brought in from the outside.

    Take the Rangers as a good modern example of an excellent hitting team.

    They keep getting close but what will utlimately put them over the top IMO is how well their SP stacks up.

    If their young guns perform to spec they’ll likely win it all.

    If they don’t they’ll wind up being a bridesmaid or worse again.

    A good balanced team is what is ideal IMO.

    Hard to accomplish.

    My 2 cents FWIW.

    ;)

  29. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    I’m not sure about our bet, btw!

    I bet Kuroda has something to say when Nunez was catching balls sitting on his ass.

  30. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    “If George was still around CJ or Yu would have been a Yankee.”

    Almost certainly Yu…..George would have seen Yu as an asset and $ signs and would have been wiling to take the risk.

  31. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Sounds like Longo might have a meniscus tear….

  32. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    “I have been on record with hating this trade but to say the Yankees have a ton of pitching talent coming through the pipeline is hopeful at best.”

    Just to play devil’s advocate… what would your assessment be of our hitting talent coming through the pipeline?

    Not sure its all that abundant either. I think at least with the pitching, our guys seem to have higher ceilings. Not sure what good that does if they’re not reaching it, but I don’t know that we have a power bat ready to help out in the majors. I do know we have arms that have done so, and are doing so now.

  33. Against All Odds May 1st, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    “If George was still around CJ or Yu would have been a Yankee.”

    Almost certainly Yu…..George would have seen Yu as an asset and $ signs and would have been wiling to take the risk.

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    Oh yea the Boss was big on that

  34. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    “it could be like when your watching a live sporting event and you listen to the commentators and they flat out lie about what you’re seeing.”

    shame spencer-

    you mean like how cnbc led the rally cries for the economy as they said nothing about the problems with credit default swaps and aig. they lie today like they lied then.

    it’s like i always say, “question authority”

    so how did our bet come out last night? there were some adventures out there in the outfield but all’s well that ends well

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Randy,

    The relief corps is a blanket all the way across. All the more reason they have no business sticking Hughes in that pen, and all the more reason they must build Joba back up as a starter.

    If they have both guys in the pen ultimately, considering how slam dunk that bullpen is, and considering the relievers in training they have in the system, then their ‘Pitching Wins’ thing is a farce.

    Your point about bash ball and then throwing that last third of game blanket out there is a good point and shows another example of how they think in a vacuum in their misfire on Montero.

    I do think though that their SP is quite good. CC/Kuroda/Nova/Pettitte. How in the world they thought they had to waste Montero I do not know. I believe it was get rid of him, and get something for him to justify getting rid of him. The getting rid of him part came first. The manager himself essentially told everyone in the post-game that a Jorge Posada like career is irrelevant.

  36. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Jason Hammel seems to be bucking the “NL west” to AL east” stuff…..he looked really good last night…..no smoke and mirrors……I was impressed.

  37. MTU May 1st, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    If Longoria goes out Zobrist or Sean R. will have to play 3rd.

    Aybar is not a 3B guy.

    A clear downgrade in both aspects of the game.

    The power will be missed too.

    Sorry Longo got hurt but anything that weakens the Rays makes me happy.

  38. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    “I bet Kuroda has something to say when Nunez was catching balls sitting on his ass.”

    at one point, nunez ,if you stopped the video, was in a perfect cross legged position, almost lotus-like.

    now that’s athleticism.

  39. theREALkevin May 1st, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    We’ll see what Baltimore’s starting ERA is at the end of the year.

  40. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    blake, they suspected meniscus tear earlier; is there an update on Longo’s MRI results?

  41. MTU May 1st, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Randy-

    More like Zen.

    ;)

  42. MTU May 1st, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    Zen Buttism.

    :)

  43. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    blake, they suspected meniscus tear earlier; is there an update on Longo’s MRI results?

    The Times says something with his hamstring, 6-8 weeks, DL, but its a guesstimate.

    Longoria is one of those elite all around players that just can’t stay healthy.

  44. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    The Rays need a 3B…..Nunez for Matt Moore :)

  45. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    re: Longo. Rays are calling it a hamstring–6-8 weeks.

  46. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    The Rays need a 3B…..Nunez for Matt Moore
    _____
    Suuuure!!! :)

  47. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Hammel was originally drafted by the Devil Rays, so he is NOT an NL Chucker having success in the AL. This guy was the product of an AL Chucker Factory long ago.

  48. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Hammel was originally drafted by the Devil Rays, so he is NOT an NL Chucker having success in the AL. This guy was the product of an AL Chucker Factory long ago.

    Had a 5.9 ERA for the Rays, clearly an NL Ball-hurler

  49. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    “Your point about bash ball and then throwing that last third of game blanket out there is a good point and shows another example of how they think in a vacuum in their misfire on Montero.”

    i wonder if the yankees could increase the innings the relief “blanket” throws over over teams once it gets a lead.

    it seems an inning of relief pitching is cheaper than an inning of starting pitching so maybe it would be more cost effective to tilt the innings a bit more toward relief pitching.

    kind of a radical thought, but i wonder if maybe 5 really all out innings from a starter wouldn’t be better for the yankees than trying to get the 6 inning quality start. especially with young guys. it’s almost like they tone down their stuff trying to throw 6 innings.

  50. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Yea Longo does seem like one of those guys that’s just nicked up all the time….for the money he’s maybe the best contract in baseball but that would be annoying.

    If Hughes loses his rotation spot…….How about Phil Hughes for Brandon Belt? The Giants wont let him play….Hughes could help them either in the pen or rotation.

  51. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Friedman says DL is premature, still waiting to see how Longo feels, but guess they call up Brignac for now…

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    MTU May 1st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    Zen Buttism.
    ///

    :thumbsup:

  53. theREALkevin May 1st, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Hammel, of the career almost 5 ERA, is mediocre. Always had been, always will be.

  54. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    “Hammel was originally drafted by the Devil Rays, so he is NOT an NL Chucker having success in the AL. This guy was the product of an AL Chucker Factory long ago.”

    Who cares where he was drafted…..he’s pitched better in the AL east thanks he did ib the NL west.

  55. 86w183 May 1st, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    I wonder if Longoria smashed his hand against glass when he got the news?

  56. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    His age\experience at the time, explains the ERA. Guess you Somehow missed that.

  57. MTU May 1st, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Brignac sucks pickles.

    That’s fine with me.

    :)

  58. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Longo knew it was bad right after the slide into 2nd, had a horrible grimace on his face. Bent his leg back. We are very lucky that Kuroda didn’t hurt himself at homeplate in a similar contortion.

  59. MTU May 1st, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    YF-

    Yeah. I think we dodged one there.

    The slo-mo replay was scary.

    ;)

  60. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    “His age\experience at the time, explains the ERA. Guess you Somehow missed that.”

    So he got a lot more experienced since last year? Its a small sample…..but the whole “NL chucker ” stuff is nonsense…..you can pitch or you can’t…..chances are that Hammel will regress back to being shat he’s been…..but its not because he’s from the National league.

  61. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    - BLAKE -
    Point is, he was groomed where a lot of young successful AL SP’s come from. Don’t get mad. You just flubbed it.

  62. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    MTU, likely be temporary, Rodriguez slides to 3B, depending on how long Longo is out. Or they could use Rhymes or sign someone else… Too bad Matsui can’t play 3rd. ;)

  63. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    “Not to presume, but I think Rich is talking about a third kind of fan – clearly a fanbase that is vocal but a minority – who cares about winning, of course, but who is riveted by process. That’s what is interesting; watching the young player evolve, and I think maybe Rich’s “flashy” player reference is taken the wrong way.”

    Would anyone really not want Matt Kemp on this team? He is the prototypical example right now.

    Jeter, A-Rod, Bernie, and Posada were flashy players from my point of view. Nunez would be if he was better.

    I’m taking about both big-time athleticism (in Posada’s case, adjusted for position) and the baseball skills to exploit it.

    That’s entertaining.

    Cano is probably the only young player like that, maybe Granderson too, but he’s not really that young.

    And yes, process matters.

  64. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Point is, he was groomed where a lot of young successful AL SP’s come from. Don’t get mad. You just flubbed it.

    You are clearly delusional as to who flubbed what.

  65. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    it seems an inning of relief pitching is cheaper than an inning of starting pitching so maybe it would be more cost effective to tilt the innings a bit more toward relief pitching.
    ///

    Pitching per square inning? Hal would buy that. Girardi was almost doing that in 2009 at times, much to my irritation.

  66. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    We all remember famous NL chucker’s Pedro Martinez & Randy Johnson :twisted:

  67. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Blake,

    Look the bright side, now we know IPK is a true AL east hurler. No NL Chucker there.

  68. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Donny,

    So let’s get this straight….he played minor league ball without an AL east team…..then went to the NL and was mediocre…..then came back to the AL east and succeeded because he was groomed correctly…….ok….

  69. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Ah, here comes the Cavalry. You guys best stick to your Montero script. You got those lines memorized, minimizing the mistakes.

  70. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    “Look the bright side, now we know IPK is a true AL east hurler. No NL Chucker there.”

    Right he was an AL east minor league chucker!

  71. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Right he was an AL east minor league chucker!

    Pitched in the AL east as well in the majors! AL chucker IPK !

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    m taking about both big-time athleticism (in Posada’s case, adjusted for position) and the baseball skills to exploit it.

    That’s entertaining.

    Cano is probably the only young player like that, maybe Granderson too, but he’s not really that young.

    And yes, process matters
    ///

    I was just trying to interpret what I thought you meant, as opposed to what I thought Betsy’s assumption of what you meant was.

  73. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    JAP

    I didn’t read what Betsy wrote.

    __
    Andy under oath (via WFAN), why did you leave the Yankees as a FA: I felt they didn’t want me back.

  74. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    That’s it. Just follow the script. 1st the Montero stuff, then onto IPK.

  75. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Cry a river, Donny, your own fault that your entirely defeatable logic (or lack there of) is such an enticing target.

  76. theREALkevin May 1st, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Funny that it seemed like Pettitte was almost a luxury, and now he’s become imperative. Can’t wait to see him back on the mound staring down batters again.

  77. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    “Andy under oath (via WFAN), why did you leave the Yankees as a FA: I felt they didn’t want me back.”
    ______
    They didn’t.

  78. 86w183 May 1st, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Truth — Andy, why did you leave the Yankees as a FA?

    “They wanted to do an MRI on my elbow and it was feeling funny so I thought it wasn’t worth the risk. Good call on my part, I’d say.”

  79. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    To me, it’s a joke to just look at the numbers of Any Chucker whose home field is in Colorado.

  80. Against All Odds May 1st, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Andy under oath (via WFAN), why did you leave the Yankees as a FA: I felt they didn’t want me back.

    ——————-

    Huh???

  81. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    “Huh???”

    WFAN is reading from some guy’s twitter feed of the trial with Andy on the stand.

  82. ron May 1st, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Mattingly is growing very nicely as a manager,and his managing skills are more in line with how he played.

  83. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    “His age\experience at the time, explains the ERA. Guess you Somehow missed that.”

    So he got a lot more experienced since last year? Its a small sample…..but the whole “NL chucker ” stuff is nonsense…..you can pitch or you can’t…..chances are that Hammel will regress back to being shat he’s been…..but its not because he’s from the National league.
    ///

    Getting to face a pitcher each time through the order and getting to pitch around the eight guy is definitely relevant. But I think your point some time ago that there are a many dangerous NL hitters these days is also relevant. I agree in general that you either can pitch or you can’t; it’s case by case.

  84. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    So now we have “AL chuckers ” “NL chuckers” and “Colorado Chuckers”……do all these guys come from the same draft?

  85. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    To me, it’s a joke to just look at the numbers of Any Chucker whose home field is in Colorado.

    Here are his away numbers

    2009 ERA 3.13
    2010 ERA 5.71
    2011 ERA 4.28

    Somehow his AL chuckerness didn’t seem to turn up in the NL

  86. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    “Mattingly is growing very nicely as a manager,and his managing skills are more in line with how he played.”

    Gammons may be a Yankee hating, RS sycophant, but when he mentions Mattingly and soul in the same sentence, it recalls the way players talked about him as a teammate.

    I wanted Girardi. I was wrong.

  87. theREALkevin May 1st, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    So what’s the equivalent of chucker for a hitter?

    Clubber? Launcher? Help me out here Donny.

  88. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    “So what’s the equivalent of chucker for a hitter?”

    A hacker.

  89. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    And his Home numbers??? Come on. Present the entire story. This is Exactly why I urge Posters to Watch and evaluate players on their own. Too many people throwing Select numbers around to prove their own jaundiced point.

  90. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    I wanted Girardi. I was wrong.
    ///

    Me too. Now that we’ve admitted it, do we get a do-over? :prays:

  91. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    “I wanted Girardi. I was wrong.”

    +1, unfortunately.

  92. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    “Getting to face a pitcher each time through the order and getting to pitch around the eight guy is definitely relevant”

    Of course…..but facing the pitcher doesn’t make you a better pitcher……it just makes your numbers look better. There is a difference in the leagues but I get tired of hearing about NL pitchers and AL east pitchers and all that stuff……the AL has better teams…..so its going to be harder on all pitchers to pitch there

  93. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Is anybody else kinda-sorta turned off or annoyed by the word “chucker” ?

  94. theREALkevin May 1st, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Nice Rich. I was going to also suggest basher but yours is better. Goes better with chucker.

  95. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    “Me too. Now that we’ve admitted it, do we get a do-over? :prays:”

    I would settle for the next best thing.

    One more point about entertainment. My post was a response to Pat M saying this blog had become a ghost town. Now, there may be many reasons why people post or not, but in terms of driving traffic, entertaining players evoke interest. Sure, you have to win too, but it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.

  96. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    And his Home numbers??? Come on. Present the entire story. This is Exactly why I urge Posters to Watch and evaluate players on their own. Too many people throwing Select numbers around to prove their own jaundiced point.

    His home numbers are thrown out, because they are in Coors, duh. Last I checked, the Rockies were in the NL west which is predominately pitchers parks and the AL east is predominately hitters parks, especially lefty friendly ones.

    How does he put up a 1 ERA now in the AL, when he just spend 3 seasons in the NL being hit or miss EVEN in the spacious away parks?

  97. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Gammons said yesterday thatthe Dodgers are playing their souls out for Donnie and that no manager is more trusted by his players…..

  98. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    “Andy under oath (via WFAN), why did you leave the Yankees as a FA: I felt they didn’t want me back.”
    ______

    They didn’t.

    ———————

    I hate this trope. This one probably irks me more than any other in Yankeeland and I don’t even know why.

    But I promised I’d try to minimize my anger over it since I knew I’d be hearing it a lot again with Andy back…

    ……because obviously the Yankees thought Jared Wright was the better option at the time.

  99. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    If the Yanks had hired Mattingly, he probably woulda been fired in short order. Mattingly has been allowed to learn on the job in LA. That would Not have happened in NY. Remember, Mattingly had NO Experience when Torre left\was forced to leave, or however you view his departure.

  100. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    “Further, Betances has been pitching in 40 degrees with swirling winds, Banuelos got hurt likely as per Nardi because the cold weather stiffenened him up. He is back tomorrow. Warm weather should help them both, plus just getting reps; it is still friggin’ April. ”

    yankeefemnista-

    i agree with you totally about the cold weather. it’s interesting how two people with the same message get different responses. of course you are more likable :)

    this was me last year:

    “i think this is a good time to point out to those who have poked fun at the notion that cold april weather makes a difference to baseball players that it indeed does affect players.”

    “You live in a twisted dream world of your own creation.” from a lohud regular

  101. J. Alfred Prufrock May 1st, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    Of course…..but facing the pitcher doesn’t make you a better pitcher……it just makes your numbers look better. There is a difference in the leagues but I get tired of hearing about NL pitchers and AL east pitchers and all that stuff……the AL has better teams…..so its going to be harder on all pitchers to pitch there
    ///

    It is, and you make an important distinction. For blind truisms without context, Lohud is prime virtual real estate.

  102. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    “How does he put up a 1 ERA now in the AL, when he just spend 3 seasons in the NL being hit or miss EVEN in the spacious away parks?”

    Because he was developed by an AL east team…..duh.

  103. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    “If the Yanks had hired Mattingly, he probably woulda been fired in short order”

    Girardi’s fist team failed to make the playoffs for the first time since really ’93 (’94 being a lockout), and he stayed.

    So you either chucked or hacked, and missed.

  104. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Gotta numbers freak discarding numbers Now. THAT’s what I call progress.

  105. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    I’m just gonna go ahead and say it: Don Mattingly was a jinx!

    Guy couldn’t even secure a ring as a coach….

  106. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    Donny you don’t make any sense as usual.

  107. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    Gotta numbers freak discarding numbers Now. THAT’s what I call progress.

    Using ERA+, which does not throw out anything, he is 200% as good in the AL as he was in the NL. Sorry, yer still losing.

  108. RadioKev May 1st, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    “How does he put up a 1 ERA now in the AL, when he just spend 3 seasons in the NL being hit or miss EVEN in the spacious away parks?”

    Because he was developed by an AL east team…..duh.
    —————–

    Without any idea who this pitcher is (haven’t been following the conversation), the answer is sample size.

  109. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Donny is a troll who has been here before and never left.

    Just leave the guy alone and let him post whatever predictions he pull out of his ass.

  110. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Without any idea who this pitcher is (haven’t been following the conversation), the answer is sample size.

    Yea there is no way Jason Hammel is a 1 ERA pitcher, but his peripherals at the moment are 100x better than they were at any point in his career, and he has actually shown a plus curveball. I can see him being a good pitcher this year (just not 1 ERA good).

    The point is just making fun of Donnybrook’s silly chucker stances which make little sense.

  111. Betsy May 1st, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Blake, winning is entertainment to me. Some fans thought the 1998 Yankees were boring – those types will never be happy with anything. When I say winining, I don’t mean only winning the WS, but rather being a top team on a consistent basis. Any fan who expects more than that is spoiled.

    As to Phil, whatever future he has I agree is with another team…..but I don’t think that another team is magically going to make him a great or even good starter just because he’s there and not here. In other words, you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. Phil’s destiny, whether here or elsewhere, very likely lies in the pen.

  112. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    “Without any idea who this pitcher is (haven’t been following the conversation), the answer is sample size.”

    Of course….but Donny’s explanation as to why Jason Hammers was pitching better in the AL than the NL was because he was developed in the minors by an AL team…..therefore being an AL chucker.

  113. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    You clearly stated, “His Home numbers are thrown out”. Must be time for your nap.

  114. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Randy, actually I have been berated over and over for mentioning the weather. I have even provided links. Andy got moved from pitching in Maine to Tampa because of the weather. Nova said his command was off at NYS in his last outing because of the weather. Verlander complained about the weather at NYS his last outing. People here must never go to milb/NYY games in the cold, they live in the south/southwest or they just don’t understand that you actually have to be able to feel your fingers to throw certain pitches. At the last Dellin game last Friday, I actually could not feel my feet to climb up the stairs to leave after the game and would have fallen had an usher not grabbed my arm in time. But I am just using the weather as an excuse. ;)

  115. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Ah, the cavalry And Now profanity.

  116. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Betsy,

    Yea…winning is entertainment …..my point was that George also understood the value of stars and how they made him money….

  117. Tackelberry May 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    The Rays need a 3B…..Nunez for Matt Moore

    _____________________________

    Do you ever post a realistic trade proposal?

  118. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    You clearly stated, “His Home numbers are thrown out”. Must be time for your nap.

    And you clearly established the premise of not looking at the numbers for a chucker whose home ballpark is COORS. Owned.

  119. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Man’s name is Hammel. NOT Hammers.

  120. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    “Do you ever post a realistic trade proposal?”

    Do you ever get jokes?

  121. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    “Do you ever post a realistic trade proposal?”

    Sarcasm perception is not your strength I take it?

  122. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    btw, How potent is entertainment?

    See Linn, Jeremy

  123. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    “Do you ever post a realistic trade proposal?”

    Do you ever get jokes?

    ——————————

    :lol:

    I love when the get on Chip’s case for the same s**t. Like our purpose for being here 24/7 is based on realism and not ..I dunno.. escapism, maybe? ;)

  124. Betsy May 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Blake, but George was wrong in a lot of things he did. I don’t think you can cater to the spoiled fan. IMO, if they want excitement, go to an amusement park. It’s why I hate these new-fangled theme park ballparks

  125. blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    “Man’s name is Hammel. NOT Hammers.”

    Judging from the name…..would you guess Jason Hammers is an NL or AL chucker?

  126. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Careful Tackelberr. The attack dogs are on the prowl.

  127. MTU May 1st, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Tackle B-

    Obviously you have not caught onto Blake’s sense of humor.

    That of a fine Southern gentleman.

    It was a Joke.

    ;)

    later. I’m out for now.

  128. G. Love May 1st, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Just wanted to say Tank wrote one of the best posts on here in a long time.

    Comparing how the Yankees used to be the Lakers, but now feel like the Spurs was spot on.

    I’m not bored by the team, I love baseball. That said, I’m bored by watching Texeira do the same thing he’s done for the past 3 years. Ibanez bores me to tears where Vlad, Damon or Matsui would’ve perked me up a bit. Martin is like watching Girardi before Posada took over, except Girardi could move a runner over and have a productive out.

    Even Grandy doesn’t get me excited. I think it’s hitting him in the 2 hole that makes him more of an afterthought than a focal point.

    Right now, the guys I get the most joy out of watching are Mo, Jeter, Robertsen, Nova and Gardner and oddly enough all of them were from the system. I’ll be excited to see Andy again and I think he’ll add some emotion that seems to be lacking in this team.

    The overall team is kind of boring though. Girardi bores me to tears and seeing Donnie become the leader in the clubhouse in Los Angeles and say things like “it’s not about making money, it’s about winning championships” in response to a reporter asking him about how the ex Dodger owner made a huge profit on the sale makes me miss him even more.

    The fact is if we had replaced Martin with Montero & had the ability to replace Tex with Prince or Pujols this past off season, the team would have more juice and be more interesting. And don’t talk to me about Pujols not hitting HR’s yet, he’ll out hit Texeira by a large margin by seasons end without a doubt.

    You want to know what would excite me? Seeing Tex hit RH against RHP and try something different.

    If Cashman went out and signed Vlad Guerrero that would excite me. If we can let Ibanez stumble around the OF, we can let Vladdy.

    But, yes, I know the team will win and get a playoff spot. It’s just not as exciting a ride as it could have been with some of these guys holding huge spots on the team.

  129. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Careful Tackelberr. The attack dogs are on the prowl.

    You started it, sorry for you we finished it.

  130. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    btw, How potent is entertainment?

    See Linn, Jeremy
    ————————-

    Yea those Linsanity shirts are going to look really good on the back of a bunch of little kids from some 3rd world country using them as soccer team jerseys. (This is real life. I saw a whole human interest story on ESPN about how the major leagues like MLB, NHL, NBA, and NFL send over the unused tshirts they print for the losers of a World Series, Superbowl, etc. to third world countries so the kids can use them in organized sports. They were all proud of themselves as they showed this clip with a bunch of kids wearing 2008 Patriots Superbowl Championship tshirts trying to play soccer in the middle of landmine fields. It was pretty gross, but good for a laugh and a cry.)

  131. theREALkevin May 1st, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Pretty sure Chip is actually serious with most of his trade proposals. I could be wrong though.

  132. Nick in SF May 1st, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    No disrespect intended, but I think both randy and Rich in NJ misinterpreted Pat M.’s remark (coincidentally in such a manner as to align it with their own theories — shocker).

    Earlier in the evening, Pat M. posted this:

    “In another year or so the LoHud will be like one of those Arizona ghost towns. Sad”

    I think he was referring to the trolls and other nasty characters dominating the discourse here.

    Of course we could always ask him.

  133. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Careful Tackelberr. The attack dogs are on the prowl.

    You started it, sorry for you we finished it.

    ———————-

    I love it when we all come together!! Let’s hug it out under the Paul O’Neill banner guys!

  134. blake May 1st, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    “Blake, but George was wrong in a lot of things he did. ”

    Of course….he was right a lot too though.

  135. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    “Ibanez bores me to tears”

    Even Ibanez’s chin is bored of him. It looks like its trying to escape his face by tunneling through his jaw..

  136. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Shame

    “Yea those Linsanity shirts are going to look really good on the back of a bunch of little kids from some 3rd world country ”

    I once speculated about that to a g/f when she asked what happens to the losing teams’ gear after they lose a championship game, but I didn’t know it was actually true!!!!

  137. jacksquat May 1st, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    The Rays need a 3B…..Nunez for Matt Moore

    Well sure, but Moore is only 23 so they’d have to send him back to the minors for a couple years so he’d have “proper time to develop”

  138. blake May 1st, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    G. Love always seems to have an accurate pulse of the situation to me….

    Id really like to see Hughes pitch well tonight…..that video JF posted yesterday was kind of shocking.

  139. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    I’ve been to one of those AZ ghost towns.

    It was called Phoenix.

  140. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Blake, all you had to do was admit your forgot, (or didn’t know), Hammel was drafted by the Devil Rays. Then the attack dogs would Not have been forced to come to your defense.

  141. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Nick

    I didn’t think there was one particular reason for any posting shortfall here, but imo (I could be wrong), if the team was more interesting/entertaining, others (for better or worse) would replace any regulars who were driven away by trolls.

  142. theREALkevin May 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    My brother thinks Ibanez looks like Mr. Peanut. I sort of agree.

  143. blake May 1st, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Chip is usually serious but not all of the ideas are bad and he just does it for fun.

  144. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Well, at least the Yankees were stupid enough to sign Amare (hindsight, YES!)

  145. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    ” actually I have been berated over and over for mentioning the weather.”

    yankeefeminista-

    i can’t tell you how many eskimo jokes were made about my belief last spring that montero should be brought up a little later in the season when the weather warmed up just to make it easier on him breaking in.

    whether sitting in the stands or trying to hit a frozen baseball it’s no fun playing baseball in the cold. it totally affects performance.

    you have to develop cold weather skills to play in cold weather. it can be done but it takes time to get them. better a player gets this experience in scranton where the stakes are lower than in new york.

    last night, i was walking onto the links course along the ocean when a woman golfer passed me leaving saying it was too cold for her and good luck trying to play.

    of course, she was dressed in spring clothes and i had a ski cap on, fleece vest, three shirts and a gloves on. i had a great time out there. played well even.

  146. jacksquat May 1st, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Some of us live in the southwest, but grew up in the northeast, and actually pitched in cold weather, rather than just got cold sitting on our butts watching it.

  147. Nick in SF May 1st, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Right, Rich, and randy’s delusional theory is that commenters are staying away because they don’t want to face up to the “elephant in the room”, which is something or other about Cashman.

    That could all be true or false, but I really think Pat M was talking about the trolls like HebrewHammer. But I could be wrong.

  148. G. Love May 1st, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    blake –

    When I read this morning that Larry was watching Hughes relief appearances from 09 w/Hughes to try to recapture what he had then I just rolled my eyes. The constant tinkering to recapture his past is what’s blocking him from progressing in the present. There’s no switch to be flipped with Hughes. The way back and the way forward involve hard work and not minor adjustments as Girardi would love to say.

    Here’s what I remember about Hughes when he was a good reliever. He’s hunched over, tense and breathing fire.

    I don’t think he can sustain that approach for 5-6 innings a night.

    It’s not acting like a reliever on the mound that’s the missing link. It’s becoming a fully developed pitcher. The Yankees make so many excused for Hughes they hold him back. If they just sent him down and told him, go perfect your breaking pitches and we’ll give you another shot, they may actually get somewhere. Especially, if they gave him a great coach/mentor in that process. I wanted Cone to be brought in to just work with Hughes in the minors and get his mind and pitches right.

    I almost wonder if Girardi is having Larry show Hughes bullpen videos of Hughes to prepare him to be put back in the pen.

  149. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    jacksquat May 1st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    Some of us live in the southwest, but grew up in the northeast, and actually pitched in cold weather, rather than just got cold sitting on our butts watching it.
    ___
    I too have pitched in cold weather. Many times. :twisted:

  150. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    Shame

    “Yea those Linsanity shirts are going to look really good on the back of a bunch of little kids from some 3rd world country ”

    I once speculated about that to a g/f when she asked what happens to the losing teams’ gear after they lose a championship game, but I didn’t know it was actually true!!!!

    ———————

    Yeah it is, Rich.

    And I have to tell you watching these jerks on ESPN do this ‘human interest’ story and pat themselves and the NFL on the back about it made me sick. It was like, ‘Look at us and our multi-billion dollar industry being so kind by giving these poor, needy individuals our LEFT OVERS! Our generosity knows no bounds! Buy our product!’

  151. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Nick

    Yeah, I depart from randy’s point of view on that, except to the limited extent that some people are probably turned off by what they believe is negativity with regard to thinking Cashman should be replaced, but that is a fundamental disagreement that will always exist in one form or another.

    I hear you about HH, who seemed to stupid to be “Lost.”

  152. blake May 1st, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    “Blake, all you had to do was admit your forgot, (or didn’t know), Hammel was drafted by the Devil Rays. Then the attack dogs would Not have been forced to come to your defense.”

    I actually did know that….its just not relevant to the discussion.

  153. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Shame

    So it is kind of a story about the circle of life. Third world, low-paid laborers make these NFL, etc. sports stuff, and then get some of it back for free if the teams don’t win. ;)

    More seriously, well said.

  154. blake May 1st, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    “It’s not acting like a reliever on the mound that’s the missing link. It’s becoming a fully developed pitcher.”

    +1

  155. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Plus, even if looking at film would help Hughes, he needs the room to experiment that is very tough to do in the ML, in NY.

  156. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    “Right, Rich, and randy’s delusional theory is that commenters are staying away because they don’t want to face up to the “elephant in the room”, which is something or other about Cashman.”

    nick in sf-

    are you really trying to run the “delusional randy” flag up the pole?

    i think that act is getting a little old in light of recent events.

    you’re a funny guy who is much funnier when you stay within your skill set.

  157. Nick in SF May 1st, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    “…some people are probably turned off by what they believe is negativity with regard to thinking Cashman should be replaced…”

    Some people are definitely turned off by the obsessive drumbeat about Montero and the trade, but once again I don’t think that’s what Pat M. was talking about.

  158. jacksquat May 1st, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Regardless of any snark…

    My prior point was that other pitchers pitch in cold weather. Some may have more natural ability to do it than others, or it may take some time to learn. However, Betances’ control problems, while possibly exacerbated by the weather, are nothing new. He has a lot of talent and is impressive in ways, but he needs to get that walk rate down, cold weather or not. I don’t think it is helpful to constantly make excuses.

  159. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    jacksquat, we who watch him pitch, all know what Betances needs to do to be successful. No one is making excuses but if you want to see it that way, have at it.

  160. Stoneburner May 1st, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    The poetics – the waxing – the revisionist history – oh the wax poetics -

    First, it is get rid of Torre – and now the fan base turns its lonely vengeful eyes to Girardi (who happens to have won a WS already)

    Next, all these posters criticized Posada while he was playing for his defense – the Yankees bring in a very good defensive catcher – and now they pine for Posada and make revisionsit claims that the Yankees won all of their most recent championships with Posada serving primary duties behind the plate (wrong: Posada assumed full time role in 2000 – and then was the primary catcher in 2009 – though Molina played a nice role as well backing him up)

    Then – it is I cannot stand George Steinbrenner – these same posters probably cheered when was suspended from the game – and now they wish George was back spending even bigger bucks than Hal (and Hal has spent – and spent a lot)

    Not only are the fake fan boys on this website elitist and borrow their information primarily from other sites and pass it off as their own – they are flip-floppers who reinforce the grass always looks greener on the other side. . . . .

    Oh fake fan boys – who will you according to Contreras or “per” Aldred next. . . . . I am still suprised you fan boys did not borrow the analysis of the posters at stripes pin plus re: Cito Culver yesterday. . . . interesting – interesting – forgot to check that website – I understand – things get busy – especially on a Monday. . . . .

  161. UnKnown May 1st, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    How many starts does Andy P. get when he comes back to get things going before he is burned at the Lohud Stake?

  162. Nick in SF May 1st, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    hey randy! I liked your story about the lady who was walking off the golf course last night.

    You know, I played golf in Scotland with a buddy of mine some years back. We were playing one of the courses at the St. Andrews complex, not the Old Course, but maybe the Jubilee or Eden Course, and it was freezing and rain started lashing down on us.

    We were dressed okay for some bad weather, but this was ridiculous. I could barely grip my clubs, and by the 5th or 6th hole, I’d had enough, so I told my buddy I was heading in. He questioned my toughess but it just wasn’t any fun out there, so I turned back.

    I walked about 50 yards or so and then I looked back to see how my buddy was doing. I saw him take a big swing and then saw the club go flying out of his hands. He was too far away to hear me laugh. He caught up to me in the restaurant pretty quickly.

    Anyway, yeah, a lot of the stuff you post and have posted is quite delusional, though I concede that some percentage of it is just stuff you say for “sheer amusement”, as you put it, because you enjoy riling people up. Glad things are well with you, some folks were worried that you weren’t posting for a short time.

  163. Against All Odds May 1st, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    That’s a weird post….really weird

  164. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    “Some people are definitely turned off by the obsessive drumbeat about Montero and the trade, but once again I don’t think that’s what Pat M. was talking about.”

    pat m is one of the best posters on the blog, but he was dead wrong about pineda as were a whole lot of other people.

    pat m always agreed to disagree with me on my montero/pineda position and there was no problem with us on that. we disagreed. end of story. however a lot of others basically tried to stifle any dissent.

    those are the ones i’m saying are not showing up simply because they are not in a commanding position right now with their position. i think pat m himself should show up more and push discussion. he should back up his position that pineda will still help the yankees in the long run. it could happen.

    the snark toward minority baseball positions was peaking this winter against anyone who didn’t like the montero/pineda trade.

    to think that all these people have kept posting when they were dead wrong is incorrect.

    they should show some guts and keep fighting for their position even when events have made their arguments less persuasive .

  165. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    “That’s a weird post….really weird”

    which one?

    that could any of us on any one post :)

  166. Stoneburner May 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    Now – it is pointless to continue an examination of whether Montero will measure up to generational guarantees of the fake fan boys – he is drastically behind any comparison to Year One Pujols – the standard for current generational greatness. Remember – Montero was guaranteed to be generational by these fan boys. These fake fan boys also cried that the Yankees do not have any “young” exciting hitters – whatever that means. So – comparisons to whether Montero will be generational greatness will be suspended b/c it is not fair to Montero or the fake fan boys – b/c they overreacted and threw a temper tantrum – or whatever.

    No – rather the comparison for the rest of the season will be between Montero and Eduardo Nunez. Now this is kind of like North vs. South – brother vs. brother – young Yankees hitter vs. former young Yankees hitter – who will be the better player. Please note that Eduardo Nunez has played a variety of roles on defense and is more athletic – but for the purposes of this we will just focus on pure stats – b/c if you open the door about how – oh Eduardo hits in such a better lineup – well Eduardo plays defense as well, is a better athlete, and all the fake fan boys continue to cry about is how the Yankees’ offense is in decline – so we just focus on the stats – pure stats – no excuses. Here we go – who will turn out the better – no one knows but the Shadow. . . . .

    Montero (2012 to date): .259 BA, 4 HRs, 13 RBIs, .271 OBP, .420 SLG, .690 OPS, BB:K ratio 2:18 in 81 ABs

    Nunez (2012 to date): .313 BA, 0 HRs, 3 RBIS, .361 OBP, .344 SLG, .705 OPS, BB:K ratio 3:3 in 32 ABs

    More updates to follow. . . . .

  167. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    I don’t think there was an abundance of posters that were genuinely pleased that Montero got traded. It was more that there were people willing to accept the reality of it quicker than others.

  168. SullyLV May 1st, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    SullyLV-@ Duh Innings.Hey,how you doing? i get it you don’t like Cashman but, Randy Levine signed Soriano not Cashman.Been a die hart Yankees fan sinse 1962 and thank God that my dad was a Yankees fan!

  169. Against All Odds May 1st, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    “That’s a weird post….really weird”

    which one?

    that could any of us on any one post :)

    ——————————

    http://shirtoid.com/wp-content.....ax-off.jpg

  170. Nick in SF May 1st, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Bronx Jeers, there were a few who were genuinely pleased that Montero got traded, but maybe more for Lohud trash talk reasons. Bret the Hitman comes to mind.

    But at the least there were a few who genuinely liked the trade and were excited about it from a baseball standpoint. Pat M. was one of this group. I missed the part about how he was “dead wrong” about Pineda, but maybe I don’t watch enough youtube xbox videos.

  171. bruceb May 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    G. Love May 1st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    Just wanted to say Tank wrote one of the best posts on here in a long time.

    Comparing how the Yankees used to be the Lakers, but now feel like the Spurs was spot on.

    Yes, that was a very interesting post by Tank. I didn’t agree with everything in it but it did make me stop and think. I have to agree, the Yanks have become a little bland, reflecting their manager’s personality. They are a well-oiled machine that is accustomed to winning but definitely lack the flair of a few years ago. I must confess that I got more excitement last night flicking over to ESPN to watch Darvish pitch than I did from the Kuroda vs. Hammel match up. And yes, I do believe that if George was still around, we would have made a serious run at signing Darvish. Our rotation would sure look better with him at the top of it.

    P.S. Congrats to all those LoHudders who identified his talent many moons ago.

  172. Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    “Some people are definitely turned off by the obsessive drumbeat about Montero and the trade, but once again I don’t think that’s what Pat M. was talking about.”

    No side has a monopoly on that though, Nick.

  173. jacksquat May 1st, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    jacksquat, we who watch him pitch, all know what Betances needs to do to be successful. No one is making excuses but if you want to see it that way, have at it

    YF, when you and others are making comments like “it’s cold”, “he wals more in the first inning when he’s not warmed up or his mechanics are a little off”, “he walks more in the last inning when he’s tired”, “he’s not used to AAA yet”, as a whole it starts to sound like excuses.

    In the majors he will have first innings, last innings, cold weather, and new places. None of those things will be excuses then. He has to perform under those conditions now as he will in the future.

  174. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Bret just likes trades in general regardless of who’s involved.

    Were there people happy that Montero was gone? I do recall Pat M being excited by Pineda’s potential but he’s generally an optimist and I applaud him for it.

    As we all know, there’s no shortage of negativity in here.

  175. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    “P.S. Congrats to all those LoHudders who identified his talent many moons ago.”

    that would not be me because i had no feel at all for darvish.

    some people identifying darvish early does illustrate why minority positions should be paid attention to . just off the top of my head jerkface and i think blake pushed for darvish.i’m sure there were others but not many.

    i literally never said a word about him if i recall correctly.

    this also illustrates that the overall blog wisdom is greater than any one poster.

    just saying.

  176. Tackelberry May 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    blake May 1st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    “Do you ever post a realistic trade proposal?”

    Do you ever get jokes?

    ____________________

    yeah, if they’re actually funny and not stupid

  177. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    I don’t think there was an abundance of posters that were genuinely pleased that Montero got traded. It was more that there were people willing to accept the reality of it quicker than others.
    ———————-

    We were also falsely hoping that the media seeing it as a positive move meant Pineda really was something special. Being on the east coast and knowing how much the Mariners blow, I knew nothing about him. I was certainly willing to listen to a bunch of people telling me he could be our #2 for the next 5 years.

  178. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Shame

    So it is kind of a story about the circle of life. Third world, low-paid laborers make these NFL, etc. sports stuff, and then get some of it back for free if the teams don’t win. ;)

    ——————

    +100!

  179. Tackelberry May 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Rich in NJ May 1st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
    “Do you ever post a realistic trade proposal?”

    Sarcasm perception is not your strength I take it?

    ______________________________________

    Not when its the same dumb sh*t over and over again

  180. Giuseppe Franco May 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Um, WTF is a “fake fan boy” and why does the same idiot write the same long winded and incoherent crap everyday?

  181. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    “the Yanks have become a little bland, reflecting their manager’s personality.”

    Not their owners?

  182. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    “Bret just likes trades in general regardless of who’s involved.”

    bret would have been the kid trying to trade you lunch all the time back in grammar school.
    “trade you my peanut butter and jelly for that tuna fish sandwich”.

    bret also told me i’d be eating crow right about now with something about pineda dominating or some such tale.

    that really hurt coming from one of the few on the blog who understands the value of coconut oil :)

  183. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    “Not their owners?”

    hal needs to smoke some pot or something and loosen up.

  184. bruceb May 1st, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    “the Yanks have become a little bland, reflecting their manager’s personality.”

    Not their owners?

    Yes, that too. They’re now definitely a Hal club rather than a Hank club.

  185. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Squat, I said the same thing about Banuelos and B. Mitchell as well as a number of other pitchers, but you keep focusing on Betances. And yeah, we know he is 6’8 and needs to control /command his pitches better. And no he doesn’t need to do it right now as if he were in the majors. Betances is newly in AAA. He is still a work in progress. I am not his parent, so I don’t need to make excuses. This narrative you are spinning has taken nothing into account that I have posted. And has been drawn out ad nauseum because of some singleminded reprimand with no information to back it up. And tell your tough love approach to Nova, Verlander, Pettitte and everyone else including Nardi who has complained about the cold this year. Pettitte I guess should have toughed it out in Maine and Manny shouldn’t have injured his lat because y’know the cold is a figment of his imagination.

  186. LGY May 1st, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    The poetics – the waxing – the revisionist history – oh the wax poetics

    ——–

    Is there anyone else that can’t stop laughing at this?

  187. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    Giuseppe Franco May 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Um, WTF is a “fake fan boy” and why does the same idiot write the same long winded and incoherent crap everyday?
    ____
    Not sure. It used to be fan boy, now it is fake fan boy. As to your second question, um, has Holiday Inn Express envy?

  188. LGY May 1st, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    One of my new life goals is to find myself in a conversation in which I can say with conviction, “Oh the wax poetics”

  189. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    If Hank was in charge our team would be a hell of a lot more entertaining. I do wish he was still splitting this 50/50 with Hal.

    “this also illustrates that the overall blog wisdom is greater than any one poster.”

    Yep, and for all of the “doom and gloom” we get pegged with I have to tell you overall I think there is a lot of knowledge on this blog.

    (PS: Not all of it is baseball knowledge. Not all of it is even valuable knowledge. But I do keep coming back because inevitably I learn something new on here that I didn’t know before.)

  190. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    The original phrase was wax your poetics, so much better!!!

  191. austinmac May 1st, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Blake,

    I am shocked at yor trade proposal. We all know it would take Chavez to get Moore.

  192. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    “Not their owners?”

    hal needs to smoke some pot or something and loosen up.
    —————–

    Yea or get to harder drugs quickly so he understands that money isn’t everything ;)

  193. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    LGY May 1st, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    The poetics – the waxing – the revisionist history – oh the wax poetics

    ——–

    Is there anyone else that can’t stop laughing at this?

    ———————-

    I keep scrolling by it and giggling like a school girl :lol:

    Ever since Jerkface pointed out that no one on here seems to use the phrase properly it’s taken on a life of its own…

  194. austinmac May 1st, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    In defense of southerners or southwesterners, it does get cold here. I coached many a kid’s game is the low 40s in select baseball. We are not moronic.

    If no pitcher on a given day can pitch well, ok I get it. But, when only the pitcher of choice pitches poorly in the cold, it is not the weather.

    Betances, and I am sure he is the subject, has control trouble in any weather at this point. He pitched in 60 degree weather in , I believe, his third start and walked many again. I don’t know the weather in his last game, but he again walked four in five innings.

    I pull for him and every other player, but excuse making doesn’t address the issue.

    Rant over.

  195. Giuseppe Franco May 1st, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    YF,

    Can women be “fake fan boys” too or are they “fake fan girls”?

    Can’t say that I have any idea what the “wax poetic” stuff means either.

    We need someone who knows how to translate idiotic gibberish.

  196. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    “Ever since Jerkface pointed out that no one on here seems to use the phrase properly it’s taken on a life of its own…”

    Shame, actually, it was Prufrock who pointed it; after all his creator is T.S. Eliot and who wouldn’t know proper English/poetics if not ole T.S. But Jerkface et al have done a good job helping elevate the phrase to Lohud Legend status. ;)

  197. hardwired7 May 1st, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Is ‘wax your poetics’ anything like manscaping?

  198. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    What about waxing our respective LOOGYs?

  199. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Pujols should hit 100 PA Without an HR tonight. If Pujols was wearing pinstripes while going thru this, ESPN would be doing cut-ins with his Every AB.

  200. austinmac May 1st, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Randy,

    If you watch Mad Men, they would recommend a little LSD to loosen Hal up. Maybe he will relive some joy of Yankee baseball as a child.

  201. Triple Short of a Cycle May 1st, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    And tell your tough love approach to Nova, Verlander, Pettitte and everyone else including Nardi who has complained about the cold this year

    ————————————————————————————

    Was Betances pitching the entire 2011 year on the North Pole when he walked
    70 in 126 innings?

  202. Triple Short of a Cycle May 1st, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    If you watch Mad Men, they would recommend a little LSD to loosen Hal up. Maybe he will relive some joy of Yankee baseball as a child.

    —————————————————————-

    Only if Hal had an Epiphany while seing himself at the 1919 world series :)

  203. Bo knows May 1st, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    I must say I like the bland, boring Joe Girardi better than the “Idiot, Binder Joe. Joe is and was known as the obsessive attention to detail, manager. That’s what made him successful.

    The Yankees are doing very well, all things considered. What now? Aha, let’s introduce style points.

    The entertainment is supposed to be on the field. You have 3,4,5 and 8 swinging to whom it may concern. Swisher pulled a hammy on a swing and you want Joe to be less boring.

    I think boring is good – nuts and bolts, attention to detail, etc – that’s what managers are hired to do. I don’t watch baseball going “Gee, I wonder what Joe is doing, I want to see a good baseball in all facets and the players aren’t producing that.

    Fourteen men left on base – that’s boring. That’s road apples and I could give a rip if Joe is boring.

  204. Game of Inches May 1st, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    austinmac May 1st, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Randy,

    If you watch Mad Men, they would recommend a little LSD to loosen Hal up. Maybe he will relive some joy of Yankee baseball as a child.

    _______________________________

    Or at least get laid. Something/anything. :wink:

  205. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    AMC and the commercials turning 2hr movies into 3hr grinds issa joke. Their flilm library is pretty good, but they are tearing pages outta the books. Pass on Mad Men. Guys in suits, walking around smoking, does Nothing for me. MUCH prefer Game of Thrones. HBO has another Sopranos there. It will Dominate the Emmy’s for the next 4-5 yrs.

  206. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    I must say I like the bland, boring Joe Girardi better than the “Idiot, Binder Joe.

    —————-

    Word.

    I kinda bieved they hired him over Don just in case the team collapsed and they needed to fire somebody.

    No way they could fire Mattingly right after essentially firing Torre.

  207. yankee 221 May 1st, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Tank May 1st, 2012 at 11:16 am

    I absolutely think there is some truth to the ‘entertainment’ factor with this team. Yankees have become boring. Fans are used to winning in conjunction with controversy, headlines, and flashy players.

    This team just has a bland feeling to it. They just kind of quietly go about their business and win enough to where their playoff spot is not in jeopardy. They are not dominating their competition, they are not doing it because of their elite players, it is more the cumulative effect of having solid ballplayers all around and a deep roster. As the summer goes on, they’ll probably start to separate themselves from most teams. The team kind of just has a “ho-hum” feel to it. The lineups are all just names at this point. Aside from Jeter, do we even have a deserving all star at any other position? Before, we used to have like 7 guys who were top 1-3 at their position.

    No MVP A-Rod to watch or “Murders Row & Cano” lineups we trot out there anymore. No Roger Clemens making a comeback. No wathcing guys like Wang and Melky give us a big boost like in 06 after all the injuries, or watching Joba strikeout 10 in Fenway in 08, or the craziness and emotional roller coaster of 09 with the walkoff wins, steroid scandal, new additions adjusting to NY, etc.. No Montero to eagerly await all his ABs. Not even watching both Killer B’s develop together at the ML level. No high ceiling youngsters, nor any elite performing veterans.

    Maybe winning in 09 took the edge off for some fans to where it isn’t always about the destination (WS), but rather, the journey. Yankees-Sox games have completely lost their edge too. We’re going to win our 90+ games every year and win the division or WC and with the 2nd WC, it is virtually assured. And it’s not even reasonable to scoreboard watch for the division until late in the summer.

    They’ve kind of come just became a solid, steady team. They used to be the Lakers, now they are the Spurs. It’s nice to win, but there should be some compelling reasons to watch too, some players to attach to, something/someone to get excited about when they do win. Montero would have been one of those guys. I mean, what is exciting about watching Granderson, Chavez, Ibanez, Kuroda, Martin, etc? To get excited that these veterans finally won rings? To get excited that Jeter won 6 or A-Rod won 2? It’s kind of ho-hum without compelling reasons to watch or root for guys.

    To see how young kids that you developed handle adversity and grow with you into a winning core is special. If not that, at least have some exciting controversial veterans to add some juice. This team has neither. Unexciting veterans, few kids. Even the kids, we’re watching lower-seeded guys like Nova, Nunez, Phelps, etc. hopefully outperform their mediocre projections, not watching guys with sick tools like Betances, Montero, Banuelos, etc. flash their brilliance and potential.

    —————–

    Outstanding post. I knew there was a little something that was lost after we won in 09 and I think you summed it up well. That was the last ‘exciting’ year we had. This team is just devoid of individual talents that you can root for/have an attachment to, or are polarizing. They are kind of just “there”. If we had the Rangers roster, man we would have soo much to look forward to. Watching Feliz develop, watching Darvish, Hamilton, etc. This group just lacks sizzle, which is highly uncommon for Yankee teams.

  208. blake May 1st, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Tackleberry ,

    You’re welcome to not read….and no you actually didn’t get the sarcasm because you apparently actually thought that I thought the Yankees could get Matt Moore for Nunez.

  209. Bo knows May 1st, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Well, first of all “Bland Joe Girardi” is an oxymoron. We’re talking “tightly wrapped’ Joe Girardi, right?

    Second
    I ain’t never seen a bland Italian, no such animal.

  210. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    GF, according to the source, fan boys have no gender.

  211. Stoneburner May 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Lol – I just got a nice e-mail back from someone re: how this blog thinks I invented the phrase “wax poetic” – do not worry – I did not mention the name of the blog – so your ignorance is safe. . . .

  212. rr212 May 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Tank/yankee221—would you dare to say they are similar to the Spurs in the NBA?

  213. Jerkface May 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Ever since Jerkface pointed out that no one on here seems to use the phrase properly it’s taken on a life of its own…

    Don’t listen to Yankeefeminista, I did point it out first :twisted:

  214. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    What the Yankees lack are players they elected to discard. Damon, Matsui, and Especially MELKY. The Milk Man continues to be an extremely good late inning clutch stick. Of all the players that have come and gone since “09″, Melky is the #1 Guy I would like to have a “do over”. Plus, he continues to get Better.

  215. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    “If you watch Mad Men, they would recommend a little LSD to loosen Hal up”

    hal would probably just stare at his hair and go ” whoa”.

  216. rr212 May 1st, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Oops, I just re read and see that the Spurs comparison was made already. My bad!

  217. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    They’ve kind of come just became a solid, steady team. They used to be the Lakers, now they are the Spurs. It’s nice to win, but there should be some compelling reasons to watch too, some players to attach to, something/someone to get excited about when they do win. Montero would have been one of those guys

    ——————–

    George understood this. That’s why he waited so long in the hotel lobby to recruit Reggie.

  218. Nick in SF May 1st, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    One of the things this blog is collectively bad at (with exceptions) is remembering who said what about what and when. It’s often comical, even when it doesn’t reach randyesque proportions.

  219. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Guess Jeet has been around Sooo long, he’s being overlooked. And here he just scored the winning run onna bang-bang play at the plate in the 9th.

  220. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    JF, if I missed it, mea culpa. Regardless we all recognize the phrase as epically incorrect and therefore epically awesome through all its metamorphoses. :)

  221. yankeefeminista May 1st, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Nick, I actually usually remember most everything regarding who says what, so I am entitled to a bad day. ;)

  222. Bo knows May 1st, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    So Joe Torre (another Italian apropos of nothing) swilled tea, napped in the dugout, had his favorites, put in Gordon with six run leads and was cool. Hey, he schmoozed reporters. Girardi busts his butt to make sure everything runs smoothly – boring.

    Hey, Teix just went back to doing the herky jerky at the plate – no comment? Martin took three successive rips at mid nineties FBs, swung really hard. Nada? For God’s sake, Cano is overswinging! The narrative baffles me.

  223. DONNYBROOK May 1st, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    That because a lot of the Posters use phrases like “I’d be surprised if”, or “the numbers lead me to believe”, etc. Lotta people straddling the fence to the point of their voice being raised 3 octaves.

  224. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    ” It’s often comical, even when it doesn’t reach randyesque proportions.”

    give it up nick, no one believes you that i’m crazy anymore

    well hardly anyone

    …ok, not everyone :)

  225. LGY May 1st, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    This.is.amazing. Warning: Knicks related.

    http://h9.abload.de/img/untitled-1l7y7l.gif

  226. Bo knows May 1st, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Lotta people straddling the fence to the point of their voice being raised 3 octaves.
    ———–

    Now that was good. Amongst the blither, this. Kudos.

  227. Nick in SF May 1st, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    randy, no offense, but you should be in Vienna with a whole team trying to untangle the knots in your brain.

    I’ve heard the strudel is good there; can I visit?

  228. yankee 221 May 1st, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Thankfully, other NY teams like the Knicks and Jets can entertain us.

  229. Game of Inches May 1st, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Amar’e out for the rest of the series.

    Facepalm.

    Not that they had much of a chance anyway, but still

  230. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    I’d be surprised if Phil puts together a quality start tonight. The numbers lead me to believe that he’ll crap the bed again.

    How exactly is this straddling the fence?

  231. Shame Spencer May 1st, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Bronx – You’re, most unfortunately for both of us, at a table for two.

  232. austinmac May 1st, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    I am afraid I have little faith Hughes will see the fifth or sixth inning today. The problem is not his mental approach. He gets no swings and misses at his off speed pitches. Therefore, the only pitch he throws for strike outs is his fastball and everyone knows it is coming.

    Maybe absence of my usual hope for him will be the reverse jinx.

  233. Nick in SF May 1st, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Phil could straddle the fence very easily back in 2007-2009, but they had to send him to the fat farm when he broke the fence in 2011.

  234. Against All Odds May 1st, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Hughes has to throw a gem sooner or later

  235. Bronx Jeers May 1st, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    I should know better than to stray from the kiddies table. Thats my comfort zone :wink:

  236. hardwired7 May 1st, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    LGY May 1st, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    This.is.amazing. Warning: Knicks related.

    ————-

    That was first rate.

    Here’s one that I enjoyed (Bobby V. related):

    http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-.....ISKEY1.gif

  237. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    “randy, no offense, but you should be in Vienna with a whole team trying to untangle the knots in your brain.”

    nick in sf-

    nice try.

    just admit that all that messing around with playing baseball may have given me a few instincts about the game.

    you’ll feel better. it’ll be a breakthrough.

  238. randy l. May 1st, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    i think they should take hughes out of his pitching 6 innings mindset and have him pitch with a two- three inning focus.

    he needs to regain his attack mode where he lets it all out.

  239. austinmac May 1st, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Randy,

    I agree Hughes should have an all out for however long mentality. What I don’t get is when you have many games getting his stuff battered around, why he wouldn’t have done that long ago. I suspect he must have tried that unsuccessfully before, but still no 95 mph fastballs or sharp curve.

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