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Postgame notes: Hughes earns some trust with strong start

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on May 06, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Eleven days ago ago, Phil Hughes was pulled in the third inning and had no room to second-guess the decision. He hadn’t “earned the trust to do that this year,” he said, and it was perfectly true. Eleven days ago, Hughes had a leash shorter than some pitchers in the Yankees bullpen, and that seemed to be exactly where he was heading.

Today, Hughes talked about trust again, but it was after he pitched into the seventh inning in what he said was “probably” his best start since 2010.

“When you kind of have that long leash, it makes you feel like you can be that workhorse type guy and go out there and have the trust of the manager and give us some length when we need it,” Hughes said. “It’s a good feeling to be able to go out there and not almost hit a wall at 100 pitches, kind of break through that wall and really put up a solid outing.”

With a fastball that was consistently hitting 94-95 mph on the stadium gun — even his last pitch was clocked at 95 — Hughes was sharp in his sixth start of the season, building on a solid outing his last time out. Outings like this, at a time like this, give a glimpse of why the Yankees keep giving Hughes chances in the rotation.

“This kid has a good arm, he really does,” Joe Girardi said. “And it comes down to, just like anyone else, to location, and today we saw the results.”

First time through the lineup, Hughes threw 33 pitches, 29 of which were fastballs. Second time and third times through the order, Hughes was just as effective with his offspeed pitches. He twice got Eric Hosmer to ground out on curveballs, and Girardi seemed most impressed by the changeup.

At a time when Hughes spot in the rotation seemed legitimately in jeopardy, he seemed to earn a little bit of the trust that was lacking just a few days ago.

“It’s a process,” Hughes said. “If I continue to pitch well and throw well, I’m sure I’ll gain more trust, and that’s what it’s all about is having the manager know that you can get out of those jams and know that you can still have a lot left in the tank after 100 pitches. The more I show that, the more I feel I’ll be able to go out there.”

• Brian Cashman said the Yankees “have not discussed” whether today was Andy Pettitte’s final minor league start before joining the big league rotation. “I’ll talk to Cash tomorrow or the next day and see where they feel he’s at, the people that watched him,” Girardi said. “… Our plan is, the guys are on turn. That’s the bottom line, so I’ll continue to put out the rotation as we go forward, but (Hughes) pitched a great game today.”

• Hughes on his changeup: “Last game I sort of, not abandoned it, but didn’t throw it as much. I was kind of a focus to maybe incorporate some cutters and some changeups and I threw some good ones when I really had my back up against the wall. That was a key time to throw those, and for the most part, the few that I threw I was happy with.”

• Hughes on his fastball: “It all starts with that pitch, and for the most part I was kind of nibbling a little bit in the early innings – just off the plate, just missing – and once I kind of found the plate and decided that I wasn’t going to necessarily worry about hitting the corners every time just be aggressive with it, and it was good from that point on.”

• On the decision to leave Hughes in to pitch the seventh when he started the inning with 103 pitches. “No hesitation,” Girardi said. “He was throwing the ball good. I basically had him going through the bottom of the order, then I had Boonie to face Dyson, so I felt good about it.”

• Robinson Cano doubled his season home run and RBI totals with one swing in the third inning. The grand slam was the eighth of his career. “Like I said yesterday, I feel good at the plate,” Cano said. “It’s just a matter of time until things turn around and start falling.”

• Alex Rodriguez also homered, his fifth of the season and his first extra-base hit since April 27. “For us to do what we want to do this year, Robbie and I hitting three and four, we’re going to have to do damage like that,” Rodriguez said. “Much better today.”

• In his second at-bat back from a strained hamstring, Nick Swisher hit his seventh home run of the season. “Just got a fastball up over the plate,” he said. “And it was good for me, confidence-wise, to take one of those really good swings, let it loose, and not worry about anything. I feel like after I did that, everything was perfect.”

• Swisher said he absolutely expects to be in right field on Tuesday. “I don’t like missing any time anyways,” he said. “For it to be something as little as this, maybe we took a couple more days than what we needed to, but hey man, it’s a long season, and you want to be out there every single day you can be.”

• Brett Gardner is flying to Rochester to begin a rehab assignment with the Triple-A team. He’ll play tomorrow and expects to play two or three games before returning to New York.

• Curtis Granderson’s third-inning single drove in the second Yankees run and gave him 1,000 hits for his career.

• Derek Jeter had two more hits including a leadoff double and a bunt single. He leads the majors with 48 hits this season and he’s hitting .397. This was his Major League-leading 16th multi-hit game.

• Let’s give the final word to Cano, who helped the Yankees end a rough four days in Kansas City on a high note. “That was good to see the whole lineup produce,” Cano sadi. “We got Swisher back and hit a homer. We’ve got A-Rod. Even Tex had some good swings, he just hit them right at people. That’s what you want. You want your whole team to be back. I know if everybody contributes, we’re going to do a lot of good things.”

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223 Responses to “Postgame notes: Hughes earns some trust with strong start”

  1. GreenBeret7 May 6th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Today, Hughes talked about trust again

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I assume that a couple of LoHuddian posters were not involved in the trust vote on Hughes.

  2. Ys Guy May 6th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    repost “ok so it is duly noted that i offered a bet that the O’s wouldnt be any better than 4th and although there was a bunch of noise, nobody took me up on it. no problem.

    so the O’s still suck, just like i said.

  3. joeman May 6th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    AP project will not work..to far removed from the game and also to old

  4. GreenBeret7 May 6th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    WHOA!!! Cubs have only 1 homer from their outfielders this year and he was a utility infielder that plays some outfield…Joe Mather who has 2 homers, on as a left fielder, 1 as a pinch hitter.

  5. Tar May 6th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Ok so it’s duly noted after reading the following

    “This is not the same O’s team as last year, that is obvious to any one who has watched them.”

    Y’s posted the following

    “they are exactly the same orioles as last year. pretty much the same roster. same april record, same manager, what is different?”

    But would not back up his words by taking a bet that THE O’S ARE A BETTER TEAM THAN LAST YEAR.

    I will say the whole 4th place was a nice straw-man though.

  6. GreenBeret7 May 6th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    randy l. May 6th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
    ” First baseman Chris Davis struck out five times, grounded into a double play and then tossed two scoreless innings of relief after Baltimore ran out of pitchers, picking up the win as the Orioles beat Boston 9-6 Sunday in 17 innings.”

    just got in from golf. that’s the craziest day i’ve seen a player have in a long while.

    red sox are hitting the depths.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Chris Davis’ win today was the first AL position player to get the win a a pitcher since 1968. That winning pitcher was NYYs Rocky Colavito.

  7. rr212 May 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Love that Zimmerann plunked Hamels after Hamels hit Harper. Andy Fletcher did a great job in warning both benches. Joe West could learn something from him.

  8. mick May 6th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    It looks like Hughsie is back in the rotation, not that he ever left.
    Coney had it right today, he has a future as a pitching coach or Mgr.
    Let Phil throw 115 pitches. Girardi agreed , sending him out for the 7th inning and he finished strong.
    This is what they want. Phil to be the # 5.

  9. mick May 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Randy-
    Why do you think Cash fired Neil Allen?

  10. GreenBeret7 May 6th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Gardner makes a rehab start tomorrow with Scranton.

  11. rr212 May 6th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    I assume that a couple of LoHuddian posters were not involved in the trust vote on Hughes. —————————- he really hasn’t given anyone a reason to trust him in awhile. I’d like to see him build on today and put together 2 or 3 more quality outings in a row. If that happens, trust will be warranted/earned. I’m hopin it happens.

  12. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Cone may or may not make for a good PC.

    Just because he is perceptive and articulate, it does not necessarily follow that he can make a pitcher kinesthetically respond to his instructions or guidance.

    Not saying he couldn’t, either. Just saying it isn’t a given.
    ///

    luis, I missed your post! I think you’re offline, so we’ll catch up when you’re back in.

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    I admittedly have no real basis for saying this, but Harper strikes me as sort of an a s s hole. Now, that’s just a gut impression. He may be a perfectly fine young man, and I may be off base, here. What can I say. On sight, I don’t like him :D.

  14. Giuseppe Franco May 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Nobody knows if Cone would even want to be a pitching coach.

    It doesn’t seem like Cone wants to work full time these days and is perfectly happy with the role he has now.

  15. Giuseppe Franco May 6th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    I admittedly have no real basis for saying this, but Harper strikes me as sort of an a s s hole. Now, that’s just a gut impression. He may be a perfectly fine young man, and I may be off base, here. What can I say. On sight, I don’t like him :D .

    ——-

    He does come across that way but so do most 19yr olds.

    Youth and immaturity go hand in hand unless your name is Derek Jeter.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    GF,

    Yeah, and I reserve the right to change my response to him. It’s purely visceral, subjective and probably flaky. The kid doesn’t really bother me, just his kind of stupor expression every time the camera finds him, which is often….:D. He wanted to be a Yankee, so he can’t be all bad ;).

  17. j9d May 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Hughes earned another, maybe two, starts. That’s all. And that’s a lot for him at this point. He was one start away from BP.

  18. rr212 May 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    JAP, he comes off that way b/c he exudes confidence…Griffey had it, Arod to some degree had/has it.
    Harper, from what we have seen thus far, plays the game the right way. He hustles on every play. It is a lot of fun watching this kid and I hope he does well. It says a lot about his character how he has handled all the hype and media exposure thus far.

  19. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Could see Andy open the series against Balt on Mon 5/14, Phelps turn.

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    Well, I like that Cone was for pushing through the barrier on Hughes today, and that Girardi actually did that was even better. I wish we’d do that more with the kids when they’re not laboring. It’s premature, but it’s not out of the question that if Hughes follows this up with a similar effort, he’ll be on his way; and if Joba comes back stronger than ever, that he may be in the mix for a starter’s job next ST. The odds that they’d revisit that, or that both things would occur, are probably not in their favor.

    But just imagine if those two were both in the rotation in 2013. To paraphrase Jerry in Zoo Story, we’d have gone a long distance out of the way, in order to come back a short distance correctly. Of course, we’re running out of clock on both of them.

  21. Ys Guy May 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    “Ys Guy May 6th,
    anybody want to bet me that the O’s don’t finish better than 4th in the division this year?”

    Tar May 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    “so tar you taking me up on that bet that the O’s dont finish above 4th?”

    So Y, I could care less where the the O’s finish in the division… I agree with Trish- chill out.”
    _______________________________________________________
    “Tar May 6th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
    Come on Y, better record than last year–what do you say?”
    —————————————————————————
    “Ys Guy May 6th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    so just for the record nobody took me up on the bet… everybody says the O’s are on the rise, but not one person stepped up to the plate.”
    —————————————————————————

    so the chronology is set, i offered a bet, you didnt take me up on it. period. end of story.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    # rr212 May 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    JAP, he comes off that way b/c he exudes confidence…Griffey had it, Arod to some degree had/has it.
    Harper, from what we have seen thus far, plays the game the right way. He hustles on every play. It is a lot of fun watching this kid and I hope he does well. It says a lot about his character how he has handled all the hype and media exposure thus far.
    ///

    Like I said, rr, my response isn’t particularly rational or just. I like the hubris in very good players to a certain extent, as long as it doesn’t diminish their teammates or come off as overly narcississtic. I loved Montero’s “This is MY house,” comment, for example. Not sure they did. I don’t really feel strongly about the Harper thing, and we all see things through our own filter to some degree. Were he a Yankee, I’d warm up to him pretty quickly, I would say :D.

  23. Ys Guy May 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    i offered you a bet, you demured and offered a different bet.

  24. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Andy does well in Balt from what I remember.

    Coney wouldn’t baby pitchers as a PC.

  25. rr212 May 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    hahaha. Me too Jap….We all would. That’s why (not to bring up anything) a lot Yankee fans miss the one we shall not speak of. :)

  26. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    JAP

    What are your thoughts on Montero being a bad boy so he was banished from the kingdom?
    Do you think this was a possibility or did you read anything about his being sat down for disciplinary reasons?

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    # j9d May 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Hughes earned another, maybe two, starts. That’s all. And that’s a lot for him at this point. He was one start away from BP.
    ///

    But that would have been short sighted. Although I have no confidence whatsoever that if he got hit today, they would have put him back in the lab; but that would have been the right thing to do. If he pitches like he did today, Phelps will not challenge him, that’s for sure. When Hughes is this Hughes, he’s on another level. I do agree with some others, though, that he could use a more sinking fastball to complement his arsenal and induce GBs and reduce PCs.

  28. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    # rr212 May 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    hahaha. Me too Jap….We all would. That’s why (not to bring up anything) a lot Yankee fans miss the one we shall not speak of. :)
    ///

    /daggerthroughheart :(

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    # mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    JAP

    What are your thoughts on Montero being a bad boy so he was banished from the kingdom?
    Do you think this was a possibility or did you read anything about his being sat down for disciplinary reasons?
    ///

    I have no idea. But I have my own sense of how they perceive players like that.

  30. rr212 May 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    im sorry…didn’t mean it like that…

  31. j9d May 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    JAP

    I agree it would have been short sighted. Commented several times that, at a minimum, they should put him in AAA to get it worked out. I just don’t think it would have happened that way.

  32. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Andy could also go the 16th in Tor after CC making Kuroda the #3.
    This could give him one more turn in AAA.

  33. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Phelps could get 2 more starts, good or bad, he has earned them.
    He will have to be brilliant to replace Hughes, who looked good today.
    Meanwhile Wade and Logan can man the 7th.

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    # rr212 May 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    im sorry…didn’t mean it like that…
    ///

    Not you, them! :D

  35. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    You never read anything about them benching Montero in the minors?
    I thought I did, but didn’t know the details.

  36. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    j9d, nah it wouldn’t have played out that way, even though it would have been right. Hey, he keeps this up, there’s only one place for him ;).

  37. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    mick, Oh, yea. There was that thing about him not running hard down the line or something. thought you meant was there some big defining thing, and I have not heard anything of that proportion.

  38. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Knicks worked a miracle today.

  39. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Any Knick fans in da house?

  40. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    I haven’t watched the Knicks since the 70s, but I hear faintly in the background, talking heads sh!tting all over Carmelo Anthony, so I’m glad they pulled one out. Sounds like the guy needs a break.

  41. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    oh well…

  42. j9d May 6th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    JAP

    Like your optimism…and it is not unwarranted. Last two starts have looked much better…not results but the way his pitches looked. Huge difference.
    We shall see but it could end well.

  43. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Melo scored 40 today.
    Stat played with one hand.
    Davis broke his knee.
    Lin could be back for game 5.
    Not much else happened.

  44. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    “Huge difference.”

    Nope.

    “Hughes” difference.

    ;)

  45. Tar May 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    “i offered you a bet, you demured and offered a different bet.”

    No more like I made a statement ” the O’ s are a better team than last year”.

    You disagreed ” they are exactly the same team as last year” Then got called on it, demured, and tried the straw man about 4th place. Along with a stupid bet that has just as much to do with how good or bad the Sox and Jays are, as it does the O’s. What place a team comes in–is as much about how good or bad the other teams in a division are.

    It’s not relevant to ” the O’s are a better team this year”.

    But you know that and just keep back tracking. So do you stand by your statement the O’s are as bad as last year, or not?

  46. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Yanks have to be rooting for Hughes over Phelps.
    One of those fixed scenarios they set up.
    After all, Phelps is just keeping Andy’s spot warm.

  47. j9d May 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    MTU

    Haha…okay I stand corrected. Sounds better anyway.

  48. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Watching the Nats/Phils game.

    Werth may have injured himself really bad.

    Bent his glove hand wrist all the way back the wrong way trying to make a diving catch.

    Immediately grabbed his forearm.

    Did not look good.

  49. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Another scenario is Andy on his 5th day this Fri in the opener vs Sea.
    This would put him at #2 behind CC.
    Move Kuroda to #3 with an extra day, then Nova and Hughes.

  50. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    You can get tix on stubhub for this fridays game for 10.95 but that will go up if and when they announce Andy’s starting.

  51. randy l. May 6th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    “Randy-
    Why do you think Cash fired Neil Allen?”

    i think because he perceived him to be to close to the tampa faction.

    i think cashman tried to clear out anyone he didn’t think was his guy.

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    # j9d May 6th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    JAP

    Like your optimism…and it is not unwarranted. Last two starts have looked much better…not results but the way his pitches looked. Huge difference.
    We shall see but it could end well.
    ///

    Likewise :D. We have cause. I think with Hughes, speaking of irrational responses, there is a type of Yankee fan who is simply tired of him. They have already decided he is a bust, and probably don’t care to adjust expectations or open their minds. That’s basically their problem, not his or the Yankees’. His previous outing, like you said, there was reason for optimism. You could see he was onto something. The willingness to throw his change and his locating it well, and using it effectively against a good hitting lineup with a good deal of lefties – if that continues, he’ll have overcome a hurdle. I was in Baltimore three years ago
    when the Orioles LHB just got fat off his cutter. If he’d had the change that afternoon, results might have been very different. To me, these two outings are like polar opposites of each other and symbolic.

  53. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    “I have no idea. But I have my own sense of how they perceive players like that.”
    ===================================
    I wouldn’t be surprised if he told Joe to eff off or gave him a dirty look during the 2011 ST when Joe had him brushing up on his catching and that sealed his fate.

  54. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    i think cashman tried to clear out anyone he didn’t think was his guy.
    ========================
    Have you ever met Cashman?
    What does Neil think of him :)

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    # MTU May 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    “Huge difference.”

    Nope.

    “Hughes” difference.

    ;)
    ///

    :D. Hughes getting the love.

    Did you watch today?

  56. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Mick, too many days off for Hughes in that scenario IMO. You want to keep him in a rhythm right now. Girardi sounded kinda iffy about Andy being back next start, assuming I read him right. Just a feeling.

  57. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    I could see MOntero having an attitude after being sent back down last year.

  58. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Pruf, it is the Hughes tough love thing. As if he were a 30 year old pitcher. If you can’t get excited about his finally using a pretty decent change up, then there is no hope. Curve ball still needs work, but getting there.

  59. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    mick, maybe they have just fallen in love with and overrate run prevention at the cost of offense.

  60. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    JAP-

    Indeed I did.

    Liked the way he maintained his velo all the way thru.

    Still wish he would be armed with a split or 2-seamer.

    Anyway, he’s bought himself some more time.

    :)

  61. randy l. May 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    “Have you ever met Cashman?
    What does Neil think of him”

    no

    and no comment :)

  62. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    YF…Phil will get 5 days off with the off day tmw, if he goes Sat.
    Then either Kuroda or Nova would extra days off.

  63. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Hi MTU, how was your hike?

  64. j9d May 6th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    JAP

    There is a decent chance Phil will go nowhere from here but you cant make a hair trigger decision at this point. This start was okay but I thought the life on his pitches last start was more encouraging. There is no reason he shouldn’t get 5 or 6 more starts, even if most are in AAA. You cant invest this much in the guy and make snap decisions to throw him away. If he doesn’t look good by mid July then I think it’s fair to put him in bullpen.

  65. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    mick, yes, Sat. scenario works, but what you write at 9:41 puts Kuroda on Sat…

  66. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    *wrote

  67. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    # mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    “I have no idea. But I have my own sense of how they perceive players like that.”
    ===================================
    I wouldn’t be surprised if he told Joe to eff off or gave him a dirty look during the 2011 ST when Joe had him brushing up on his catching and that sealed his fate.
    ///

    Well, of the two, I know who I’d have gotten rid of, given the choice….

  68. mick May 6th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    True about Joe being iffy on Andy.
    Sometimes I think Joe thinks he’s some kind of a genius when it comes to pitching.
    Not sure if that’s true, mainly I see him with alot of common sense and perspective.
    Not one to rush but then he sets up these impossible competition scenarios where he has guys pitching for their lives.
    Goes along with his overmanaging at times.
    It worked in 09.
    Or maybe he was just lucky.

  69. mick May 6th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Joe might want to baby Phil , being he threw 115 pitches today.
    As Coney said, when you do that you can even skip a turn.

  70. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    mick, I wouldn’t baby him to that degree. One extra day would be about it.

  71. mick May 6th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    and no comment :)
    ================
    can’t blame you for that.
    not many would laud their ex-boss who fired them.

    i can see cash, joe and hal being as thick as thieves

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    # MTU May 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    JAP-

    Indeed I did.

    Liked the way he maintained his velo all the way thru.

    Still wish he would be armed with a split or 2-seamer.

    Anyway, he’s bought himself some more time.

    :)
    ///

    I know you want him to add that splitter. ;). Two guys here can teach it to him. He did have some nice movement up and away on the fastball at times that they were biting on, but I agree he could use something that sinks or has a decided 2-seam drop. He had more of that just naturally off his fb in ST at times, pitching down in the zone, but it would be nice to throw a complementary fastball. Maybe they are thinking this, but thinking one thing at a time with him.

  73. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    YF-

    Thanks for asking.

    Fantastic. We have another world-class spot in our backyard.

    I would like to add you to my e-mail.

    Told Chad to pass mine along to you.

    Did you get it ?

  74. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Joe might want to baby Phil , being he threw 115 pitches today.
    As Coney said, when you do that you can even skip a turn.
    ///

    I don’t think they’ll do that.

  75. mick May 6th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    if the rotation is CC-Andy (back to back LH?)-Phil-Kuroda-Nova that would give Kuroda 7 days rest and NOva 5.

  76. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    MTU, yes, thanks. I did get the email, and will send mine off to you soon as I go into that account.

  77. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    JAP-

    Simplification is the ticket for Phil right now.

    I advocated it a while back. Just get back to basics.

    Glad he ditched that cutter. Never liked it.

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    There is no reason he shouldn’t get 5 or 6 more starts, even if most are in AAA. You cant invest this much in the guy and make snap decisions to throw him away. If he doesn’t look good by mid July then I think it’s fair to put him in bullpen.
    ///

    J9d,

    Maybe. Hope it doesn’t come to that. I am really tired of not developing our own guys. But of course, he has to continue to justify a spot.

  79. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Very good YF.

    Just wanted to check.

    ;)

  80. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
    JAP-

    Simplification is the ticket for Phil right now.

    I advocated it a while back. Just get back to basics.

    Glad he ditched that cutter. Never liked it.
    _____
    Unfortunately, I don’t think he ditched it completely and think he wants to add it back in. :(

  81. mick May 6th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    They really don’t have a #2 starter.

  82. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    I doubt they send Hughes down either way. SP or I am afraid, RP. SP FTW!

  83. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    What will become of young Mr. Phelps ?

    I really like that kid’s stuff, poise, and command.

    Think he has a future as a ML starter.

    Was a bit too pumped last time IMO.

    Hope they don’t waste his talent, or trade him.

  84. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    mick, any one of the 3 after C. can be a #2 though. They’ll be fine. Just all need to have their good command. Kuroda had nothing last game in terms of stuff or command. Nova’s been in and out, but it’ll get better. Still early in the season.

  85. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    MTU, My guess is if Phil pitches well that they will send Phelps down to be ready to start… But it is a long season and we will need everyone; I am grateful we have depth.

  86. mick May 6th, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Phil seems to have figured it out.
    He has to think like a reliever.
    He let it loose today esp. the last few innings he stronger.
    He can’t tinker, he’s a power pitcher.
    Forget the nibbling.

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    # yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Pruf, it is the Hughes tough love thing. As if he were a 30 year old pitcher. If you can’t get excited about his finally using a pretty decent change up, then there is no hope. Curve ball still needs work, but getting there.
    ///

    Fem, I recall two swinging strikes on the curve today. The one that stands out was a really dirty Dellin-esque or AJ-like one that he got a K on. That was awesome.

    We’ve said it before: it takes an iron stomach to develop real starters and it takes one to abide and witness the not necessarily linear process.

  88. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    “Asked what his comeback was about, love of the game or to prove something to himself, Pettitte paused a long while before responding with a convincing answer about feeling rejuvenated. With the support of family, ‘I feel I can do anything,’ he said.”

    http://www.democratandchronicl.....prime-time

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    I like Phelps, but he’s not a guy I wouldn’t include in a package if something young that knew how to hit were coming back.

  90. j9d May 6th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    JAP

    Yeah no kidding. Can’t hurt to go the extra mile to make sure the home grown guys are not well suited for he big leagues. Very little risk in doing a few starts in AAA before you throw them out of the starting lineup.

  91. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Pruf, yep, it’s often a “nonlinear” process. J-Ram and Turley to Trenton at some point please. And I can’t wait to see DePaula and Camarena in SI. :)

  92. mick May 6th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    We do have depth.
    Deep depth.

  93. Ys Guy May 6th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    tar i offered you a bet. take it or dont. anything else bs.

    the knicks win was great, nice to see Stat on his game. they need to bring him off the bench and have him do that for 20 min per game next year.

    but the best play of the game was that spinorama, left handed fade-away with the foul that lebron made with about 15 seconds left…what a play.

    glad the streak is over, glad the knicks won. it’s going to be one of maybe 4, maybe 3 the heat lose on thier way to hoisting the trophy.

  94. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    JAP-

    I understand your perspective but I wouldn’t underestimate Phelps.

    I could be totally off base here but I see a lot of talent and a lot of potential.

    Actually don’t want to trade him unless it’s for someone very good.

  95. Ys Guy May 6th, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    i love andy and its great the he feels he can do anything. and its great that he felt like his aa and aaa starts were ‘just getting in his work’. but if he’s still throwing mid 80′s like he did in trenton, he’s gonna get smoked in the AL East.

  96. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Yeah no kidding. Can’t hurt to go the extra mile to make sure the home grown guys are not well suited for he big leagues. Very little risk in doing a few starts in AAA before you throw them out of the starting lineup.
    ///

    Nothing to lose, right? Which is why they should have delivered Chamberlain back to Aldred.

    IMO, far too many “scouts” weighing in on these guys and branding them this or that before they’re remotely complete. Hughes is not in the epilogue phase of his career and he is not yet a “complete” pitcher.

  97. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    MTU,

    No, I have no problem acknowledging that Phelps is very advanced.He just isn’t going to outdistance Hughes if Hughes throws like he did today. I don’t want to give Phelps away, either. Just saying they need a good, young bat. If they put together a package for something that could make my personal nightmare diminish some, I wouldn’t let Phelps hold up that deal.

  98. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Pruf, one on a curveball, forget who. Trying to remember, Hosmer swung on a change. Maier struck out on one, I believe, but would have to check.

    Andy’s fastball average in both 2009 and 2010 was 89.0.

  99. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    # yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Pruf, yep, it’s often a “nonlinear” process. J-Ram and Turley to Trenton at some point please. And I can’t wait to see DePaula and Camarena in SI. :)
    ///

    DePaula, Camarena are must see in SI. Can’t wait, either for J-Ram and Turley here in Trenton. Though I haven’t made it to see Marshall yet, but I’m going to fix that soon.

  100. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Hopefully, we get Joba back in September (fingers crossed).

    Pineda–why no report at all? What did they find? The silence scars me.

  101. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    YF, can’t remember who it was. I plan to rewatch his start on replay tomorrow morning. Hope they don’t edit too much.

  102. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    At least Trenton now has video, but it isn’t the same as being there.

  103. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    Pineda–why no report at all? What did they find? The silence scars me.
    ///

    You got a bunch of reporters serving up Cashman pablum and none of the investigative variety. Even Sherman has been turned into a soprano. Too bad the New York Times is basically out of business. They are very good at not wasting time kissing up to players/coaches/GMs to get “scoops” and focusing on bigger picture stuff, to the chagrin of the teams they cover. They are never well liked, but they have to be put up with. Problem is, they don’t exist anymore.

  104. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Pruf, you can watch on mlb archives. It’s up.

  105. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    YF-

    I don’t understand the info. blackout on Pineda either.

    More details should be available than “Yeah the surgery was successful.”

    ;)

  106. Tar May 6th, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    ” anything else bs.”

    I would say everything you posted on this topic is bs. And I don’t appreciate people twisting my words. But we both have wasted enough time on what is an really an unimportant subject, so how about we just drop it. Have a good night.

  107. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    Yeah, but you’d think we ourselves would have announced what they findings are.

    I am rewatching Hughes now. Cone was good (as usual) today. Wish he would do every game, and a delight not to have to listen to Kay.

  108. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    *the Pineda findings were…

  109. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    MTU, it is strange. You’d think they would have given a detailed report, no?

  110. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    MTU,

    It would take some digging, and there seem to be no reporters left that do that sort of thing.

  111. j9d May 6th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    MTU

    Agree on Pineda blackout. I have been really surprised at the utter silence in the media and that the posters on this blog have not asked any questions.

    Chad please help us out here.

  112. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Well, somebody’s managing the drive in runs for Philadelphia…

    Hughes’ replay on YES at 11 p.m. tonight. Think I’ll watch some of it now and some in the morning.

  113. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Where’s Odds?

  114. Yankee Trader May 6th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Good evening-

    The only thing I read on Pineda, was Girardi saying the surgery was successful. I too would be interested if this surgery held any surprises-was the rotator cuff OK, was it a large labral tear?

    As far as possibly including Phelps in a trade, what would help the Yankees right now if he were traded and where would that position player play once Gardner comes back? The Yankees need all the pitching right now

  115. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Odds, when is Joba back?

    Papelbon warming up. If not a Sux, then a perfect Philly pitcher. The latter my least favorite sports city.

  116. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    YT, yes I would think they would provide this kind of medical info. The silence IS deafeningly.

    Chad, I agree; we need info on this. Kind of unacceptable and surprising to have heard nada.

  117. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    JAP-

    Shouldn’t really take all that much.

    Is it a State secret requiring a top secret clearance ?

    :)

  118. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    MTU, I sent you an email.

  119. Yankee Trader May 6th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Call this man. Maybe he has info on Pineda:

    http://www.hss.edu/physicians_altchek-david.asp

    Really, it’s time for the media to probe-inquiring minds want to know!! :)

  120. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    As far as possibly including Phelps in a trade, what would help the Yankees right now if he were traded and where would that position player play once Gardner comes back? The Yankees need all the pitching right now
    ////

    No formulated trade idea, just saying I like Phelps a lot but not unconditionally.

  121. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Postgame comments by Pettitte and Aldred on Pettitte:

    http://swbyankees.mlblogs.com/.....-pettitte/

  122. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Is it a State secret requiring a top secret clearance ?

    :)

    ///

    Good question for the Yankees.

  123. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    YF-

    Replied.

  124. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    # Yankee Trader May 6th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Call this man. Maybe he has info on Pineda:

    http://www.hss.edu/physicians_altchek-david.asp

    Really, it’s time for the media to probe-inquiring minds want to know!! :)
    ///

    Hey, you’re a natural. Play your research card as an “in”. Then report back to Lohud. :D.

  125. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    “DH Hideki Matsui, recently signed to a minor-league deal, will play his first extended spring game for the Rays at 1 p.m. Wednesday in Port Charlotte.”

    http://www.tampabay.com/sports.....ee/1228756

  126. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    MTU, responded in kind.

  127. Yankee Trader May 6th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    YF-

    Thanks for the link on Pettitte-stated that his velocity is at 87-88 right now but he expects it to get into the 90′s at some point in the season as he builds up arm strength.

    JAP-

    That would violate HIPAA. I suppose I could call the hospital and pretend I’m Michael’s mother, and ask for his surgical records? :)

  128. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    Aldred sounded pretty non-committal, but then it isn’t his decision.

    I am bummed that both Longoria and Jennings will likely be out during the Rays series at NY. I like watching the fully loaded club when they come in. Supposedly, Rays will start Joyce in left, BJ in center and Zobrist in right on Tuesday if Jennings is out.

  129. Betsy May 6th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    So because someone won’t go over the moon with excitement after one good start, there’s no hope for that person? Sad.

  130. Yankee Trader May 6th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    As soon as Matsui plays his first game for the Tampa Rays, he will have had both 10 years of service at the major leagues, both here and in Japan.

  131. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Pruf, Dellin pitching tomorrow, and Manny on Tues? SWB coverage this year is excrutiatingly non-existent. They need a Rochester connection. Any volunteers?

  132. Yankee Trader May 6th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    It’s hard to believe that not only the Rays but the Orioles have the two best winning percentages in the majors.

  133. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
    Pruf, Dellin pitching tomorrow, and Manny on Tues? SWB coverage this year is excrutiatingly non-existent. They need a Rochester connection. Any volunteers?
    ///

    Coverage stinks. Donnie Collins only focuses on “buzz worthy” stuff. Awful.

  134. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    JAP-

    That would violate HIPAA. I suppose I could call the hospital and pretend I’m Michael’s mother, and ask for his surgical records?
    ///

    You see? You’re a natural :D.

  135. Yankee Trader May 6th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    It’s goodnight for me and to all a good night and a great day tomorrow. It’s time for the Yankees to rise up, start playing like they should be playing this month of May, and get on a long winning roll!

  136. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    I hope Matsui makes it back, but unsure how he fits in with the Rays. Guess they can use another bat at DH that can hit lefties. Scott certainly can’t. Keppinger can though. How was Matsui’s bat speed in 2011. Good luck to Matsui-san!

  137. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Good Night, YT.

  138. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    YT, Rays I expected it off, and Matt Moore hasn’t pitched very well yet… but young pitchers will have their ups and downs.

  139. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    expected it *of

  140. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    If YT’s mission fails, I can head over to the HSS before the Yanks-Rays game and lift Pineda’s medical records.

    So sorry I missed Davis pitching in that extra innings O’s-Sux game.

  141. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    Replay: there is that nasty swinging change up on Hosmer. Then gets the out on the change on fly ball to left.

  142. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Fem, that was a huge guy to get there, having given up the run and haiving a man on second. Then he gets the popup to end the Royals’ half of the inning. That inning could have gotten away from him, and he just bore down and got two outs, stranding the runner.

    I’m turning in. Good night, all.

  143. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    ‘Night, Pruf. I am out too.

  144. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Shame, props on beating the Flyers!!

  145. MTU May 6th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Have a good evening.

    Catch you all in the AM.

  146. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    You too, MTU.

  147. igotid88 May 6th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Man that was a strike. ended up throwing 3 more pitches

  148. yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    You mean on Quintero? Two of those FB’s were strikes, 3rd and 4th ones.

  149. blake May 6th, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    just got home and watched the game….that was fun and was refreshing to see the Yanks actually pound a bad pitcher.

    Best start Hughes has made in forever….and not only because of the box score but because of how he kept his stuff throughout the game and used his pitches…..maybe the most conviction I’ve ever seen him throw his CU with….using it behind in counts and throwing it for strikes…..if he can pitch like that consistently as a starter then he’ll be fine….it’s just one start….but its something to build on.

    Great to see the bats get going….Cano and Alex are hopefully starting to heat up…..and I kinda like what Wise brings to the table.

    The Avengers was awesome for anybody who cares BTW.

  150. igotid88 May 7th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    yankeefeminista May 6th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
    You mean on Quintero? Two of those FB’s were strikes, 3rd and 4th ones.
    ———————————

    yea although we went through that in the earlier post

  151. jacksquat May 7th, 2012 at 12:25 am

    Nice start for Hughes. I need to see it for more than one or two starts though.

    Still, I can’t believe they won a game without Jesus Montero and Cashman not fired yet.

  152. Rich in NJ May 7th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    $200m papers over a lot of mistakes.

  153. Nick in SF May 7th, 2012 at 1:10 am

    Oh no, your heart is broken
    don’t you think that’s a little trite?

  154. Rich in NJ May 7th, 2012 at 1:36 am

    I broke Nick’s heart????????? OMG…

  155. theREALkevin May 7th, 2012 at 1:56 am

    Cano- “Even” Teixeira had some good swings. Lol…

  156. GreenBeret7 May 7th, 2012 at 5:28 am

    Jayson Werth has a broken wrist on the sliding catch attempt in today’s game. Never understood why players decided to to that crap, other than to look cool and stylish. Makes as much sense as diving into first base.

  157. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:07 am

    Mr. Hughes – Where have you been, and welcome back.

    It seems the team come together yesterday, lets hope its just the beginning, and not a one day flash in the pan.

    Despite what some here say and believe, winning begins with good pitching and defense. The hitting seems to follow that lead.

  158. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:09 am

    This is going to be a great year to watch some young talent grow. Bryce Harper looks like the real deal, this kid has all the tools.

  159. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:18 am

    Pettitte thinks he’s ready to start in NY, but his numbers say different. If Andy can’t control a AAA lineup, he’ll not do well facing ML hitters. I hope the Yankees have him make at least 2 more starts in AAA, and then see where he stands.

  160. Duh Innings May 7th, 2012 at 7:29 am

    The Yanks should trade Kuroda to the As for Colon and pay the remaining salaries for both (big deal if the Yanks take on $2M minus X.)

    Rotation: Sabathia / Nova / Pettitte / Hughes / Colon

    Bullpen: Robertson / Soriano / Logan / Wade / Rapada / Garcia / Eppley

    Phelps goes back to AAA to start so he doesn’t waste away in the Yanks bullpen and gets the call to hold down or take over a rotation slot if the need for him to do either arises.

    Ideally the Yankees rotation to start next season is the above one with Phelps in place of Colon who could battle for the last slot in the bullpen if he wants to remain a Yankee and have one of the best chances to finally grab a World Series ring. Maybe Colon would be willing to come back as a reliever because it’s better to be a reliever for a World Series winner than a starting pitcher for a team who won’t make or win the World Series.

  161. Duh Innings May 7th, 2012 at 7:32 am

    If Aardsma joins the Yanks, he replaces Eppley who would be sent back to AAA.

    If Hughes or Colon sucks so bad he can’t remain in the rotation, Phelps gets the callup to join the rotation, Eppley is sent down, and Hughes or Colon is sent to the pen (Aardsma not in the picture in this scenaro.)

  162. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 7:33 am

    Morning Al.

    Was great to see Hughes dealin’ again.

    He needed a strong start and gave us one.

    Maintained excellent velocity all the way thru to the end.

    I hope they continue to give Phelps a chance.

    My opinion is that some under rate him.

    He is much more than just a BP piece.

  163. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 7:37 am

    GB-

    I was watching the play where Werth broke his wrist.

    Could tell right away from the way he bent it and his reaction it was bad.

    Tough break.

  164. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:40 am

    Good morning Mike.

    What impressed me was the fact Hughes not only kept his velo, but it was getting better in the late innings. Was so glad to see Girardi leave him in for the 7th inning.

    I agree on Phelps, he’ll do much better the next start.

    I watched Noesi pitch yesterday, and he looks good, some nasty stuff. I think the M’s got a great deal in the trade.

    Why has there been no news on Pineda? What did they find during surgery etc?

  165. blake May 7th, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Morning MTU, AL….etc,

    It was really good to see Hughes pitch well yesterday …..and if he can sustain that stuff and approach then he will be fine……nothing would make me happier.

    Love how he’s basically made his cutter a 4th pitch ……I don’t know how many he threw but I knowbhe threw a couple to Butler that were effective and while his CB was still a little floaty ….he at least got some out and weaker swings against it…..and as i said last night that might be the most conviction and confidence I’ve ever seen him show with his CU….throwing it behind in counts for strikes etc…

    If he can do that and keep his fastball for the whole game like that then yea…..he can start ans he can be good at it….we’ll see.

    Its tough to know about Andy without seeing him pitch……but if they have any doubt then give hin another tune up…..no reason to rush

  166. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:43 am

    It was so funny to watch the O’s DH throw 2 scoreless innings vs the Red Sux.

    The fat lady is singing in Boston, or is that Pete Abe in drag, lol.

  167. Dionysius Thelxinoe May 7th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    Hard to believe Cole Hamels openly admitted to throwing at an hitting Bryce Harper.

    On the plus side, Harper came around and stole home, then Hamels got hit by the Nats pitcher Zimmerman.

    Hamels is a fool.

  168. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 7:45 am

    Al-

    Yep. The M’s did very well for themselves.

    Seems to be a news blackout on Pineda.

    Most of us would like more details.

    I hope Campos doesn’t wind up needing TJ.

    He was shut down with elbow soreness.

    They sent him for an MRI. Haven’t heard any results.

  169. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:46 am

    blake -

    Andy thought he threw well, but, Scott Aldred said he thought Andy did not have good stuff. I’ll trust the PC’s view over Andy, since he can’t wait to join the team.

  170. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:48 am

    Mike -

    Jack Z is in his office laughing his arss off. Watched some of the M’s game, and saw Montero hit a double, man what a sweet swing.

  171. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 7:49 am

    Blake-

    Other than the command still being a bit off that is the best FB we seen from Hughes since 1st half 2010.

    If he incorporates a viable CU to go with the other stuff and stays aggressive he should be successful.

    I’m intrigued by Phelps.

  172. blake May 7th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    The Orioles have the best record in baseball…..the Yankees and Sox are in 4th and 5th place…..bizarro world.

  173. blake May 7th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Jack Z is in his office laughing his arss off. Watched some of the M’s game, and saw Montero hit a double, man what a sweet swing.”

    :(

  174. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Mike -

    Bryce Harper 2-3 off Hamels, and he stole home. His numbers are unreal for a 19 year old. Wish he had his dream come true and was a Yankee. This kid has all the tools to be something very special.

  175. blake May 7th, 2012 at 7:54 am

    “I’m intrigued by Phelps.”

    My dad…..who knows more baseball than anyone I know….watched Phelps pitch for one inning and said….”.I like him….he gets after it……they need to let him pitch…..”

  176. blake May 7th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    “This kid has all the tools to be something very special.”

    Off the charts bat speed…..some of the best I’ve ever seen….

  177. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    Blake-

    There are a number of surprises so far with the O’s.

    Not the least of which is them having an incredible BP.

    They have been able to hit for years but didn’t have the P.

    Hammel and Arrieta look good at the front end.

    Pat M. said to keep an eye on them. Kudos to him for seeing it early.

    I’m still not convinced.

    Sux are pathetic. Decimated by injuries and other chaos.

  178. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    blake -

    The play-by-play guys foe the Twins were saying how impressed they were with Montero, and said they thought the M’s got the best of the Yankees, and found Montero was the real deal.

    I wish for now is Hal and company want to get out, sell the team to Mark Cuban, and the skys the limit to build a WS team for years to come.

    This management team puts making money over building a championship team. IMHO.

  179. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Al-

    If he ever makes it to FA he may just get his wish.

    ;)

  180. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    Blake-

    I agree with your Father.

    There is something about Phelps that makes you sit up and take notice.

    I wonder if he is another Nova type ?

    I know the stuff isn’t quite as good but the command is way better.

    ;)

  181. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    blake -

    When Harper was in YS for a HS AS game, he was hitting HR over 400′, at 15 years old. This kid, if he stays healthy, will be one of the best to play the game in quite some time. I enjoy watching great young talent, regardlees of the team they play for, I simply love the game.

  182. Benny Blanco May 7th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    Blake,

    Didn’t see the game yesterday, heard hughes hit 96 on the gun. I think there was a report in ST by a scout who said that hughes would get stronger as the season progresses.

  183. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 8:01 am

    Benny-

    All pItchers tend to gain arm strength as the season progresses.

    True fact.

    :)

  184. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    Mike -

    Yes, but Hughes was gaining velo as he went deeper into the game, like CC does so often. A very good sign, if he continues to progress from this point on.

    Seems some of the young Rays pitchers are having hard times. Perhaps Neil Allen brought them along too quickly, lol.

  185. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Al-

    Haven’t checked in on Moore.

    Is he struggling a bit ?

  186. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Yes

  187. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    Al-

    I’ll still take him.

    ;)

  188. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Mike -

    Moore is 1-2 with a WHIP of 1.644 and his SO/BB is down to 1.56/9 and an ERA of 5.11

  189. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    Mike -

    Let’s trade them Pineda for him now. Heck, let’s be really nice and throw in Garcia.

  190. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Al-

    Wonder if he is injured ?

    Anyway the path for young starters is not linear.

    Talent level is off the charts.

    I’ll swap ya’ Cervelli for him straight up.

    It’s a sacrifice but I’ll do it.

    :)

  191. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Mike -

    I think I hear the phones starting to ring in both NY and Tampa, this could be a done deal by noon.

  192. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:22 am

    “I enjoy watching great young talent, regardlees of the team they play for, I simply love the game.”

    Me too….that’s why I was so sad to see Montero go….I had followed hin for 5 years …

  193. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Al-

    I might even be willing to throw in Pena but that’s as far as I go.

    By the way, Jimbo arrives in just a few more days.

    He’s gonna be a busy boy.

    Hope he doesn’t get finger tendonitis and a strained neck.

    ;)

  194. Yankee Trader May 7th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Good morning. Looks like I’m late to the party.

    Looks like 1B/DH Chris Davis of the Orioles can pitch also.

    Here’s what Hamels had to say about drilling Harper. Payback is a bit**

    http://content.usatoday.com/co.....titialskip

  195. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Blake-

    Let’s put Montero and Harper back to back.

    Whaddya’ say ?

    :)

  196. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Mike -

    Moore is not injured, just going through growing pains, something fans here would not allow, but, given the staff in Tampa, they can afford to be patient.

    Can you imagine when Pineda comes back, and he struggles, how quick these fans will be calling for him to be sent down or traded. For the most part NY fans do not understand the word patient.

  197. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    “Didn’t see the game yesterday, heard hughes hit 96 on the gun. I think there was a report in ST by a scout who said that hughes would get stronger as the season progresses.”

    It seems like everyone throws a little harder in KC….don’t know if its a hot gun or the weather or what……but that really doesn’t matter…..the hitters will tell you about the fastball and Hughes’s was very good yesterday all the way up past 100 pitches and that’s something we haven’t seen in over two years…….I saw enough yesterday that they have to keep him in the rotation for now…..its just one start but he’s shown some positive signs in his last two….scrapping the cutter….better velocity….better use of his breaking ball and CU…..KC and Baltimore are both good lineups….and he held his own or better against both….it would be a big lift it he got it together and took off…..a potentially season changing development…..don’t want to get ahead if ourselves…..but its the best he’s thrown the ball for 100 pitches in a long time…..now can he repeat it in five days?

  198. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:29 am

    “Let’s put Montero and Harper back to back.”

    If we get a new owner maybe we can in 6 years :)

  199. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Mike & Blake -

    In 5 years Harper #3 and Montero #4. I like the sound of that, but only if Hal is no longer running the team, he’ll not spend the money to make that happen.

    To celebrate July 4th, Hal is going to open his wallet and release 10,000 moths.

  200. MTU May 7th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Al-

    I’m not even sure Yankee Mgmt understands the word much less the fans.

    They did stick w. Hughes much longer than normal though.

    Seem to be handling the B and B boys well too.

    So maybe they are starting to get it.

    ;)

  201. joeman May 7th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 7:09 am
    This is going to be a great year to watch some young talent grow. Bryce Harper looks like the real deal, this kid has all the tools.

    ————————-
    Mike trout is going to be a player also

  202. Yankee Trader May 7th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    Blake-

    Did you enjoy the Avengers?

    I didn’t see the entire game especially after the Yankees scored 6 runs in the 3rd. Looks like the offense was quiet until A-Rods bomb in the 8th.

  203. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Mike -

    I hope all of us that have followed the B’s are not going down a path of hope, where there may be none. Both the B’s have very poor control for a long period of time, and I now wonder if they were being hyped for trade reasons. Yes, they are both young, but, they don’t seem to be developing as quickly as SP like Phelps, Warren etc. Nova and Noesi developed at a better clip. My fear is the front office does not go after a frontline SP because they think the B’s will be ready, and cheaper, and we wind up with nothing.

  204. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    “Seem to be handling the B and B boys well too.”

    I think that’s still TBD….I like that they are being patient with them but one of those two needs to pan out…..especially Banuelos as I think he’s got it all…..I know JAP and YF love Betances…..but I’ve watched him pitch quite a bit now and he just doesn’t do much for me….he shows flashes but im pretty skeptical that he will ever be able to repeat well enough to put it all together …..hopefully im wrong.

  205. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    “Did you enjoy the Avengers?”

    It was awesome if you like that sort of thing…..maybe even awesome if you don’t because Downey Jr is so hilarious ……they finally cast the right guy to play the Hulk too….Mark Ruffalo is perfect.

  206. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    “Mike trout is going to be a player also”

    Supplemental draft pick the Angels got from losing……..Mark Teixera.

  207. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    blake -

    I think your right. Betances has great stuff, but lacks control. Manny stands the best chance to make it of the two, IMO.

  208. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    ” Both the B’s have very poor control for a long period of time, and I now wonder if they were being hyped for trade reasons”

    I think they do for different reasons though …..Betances can’t repeat his delivery….Banuelos does very well he just nibbles too much from what I’ve seen…..the latter is much more correctable…..

  209. Yankee Trader May 7th, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Blake-

    I saw the movie Friday and it was terrific. Can’t wait for Dark Shadows with Johnny Depp.

    Just watched a short video of Hughes strikeouts yesterday. Most were on fastballs with good velocity. The others looked like changeups.

    Here’s Hamels’ full admission, via the Philadelphia Inquirer’s Matt Gelb:

    “I was trying to hit him. I’m not going to deny it. It’s something I grew up watching. That’s what happened. I’m just trying to continue the old baseball. Some people get away from it. I remember when I was a rookie, the strike zone was really, really small and you didn’t say anything. That’s the way baseball is. Sometimes the league is protecting certain players. It’s that old-school prestigious way of baseball.

    “I’m not going to injure a guy. They’re probably not going to like me for it but I’m not going to lie and say I wasn’t trying to do it. I think they understood the message and they threw it right back. That’s the way, and I respect it. They can say whatever they want.”

    Indeed, the Nats avenged the act two-fold. Harper eventually stole home after getting plunked, giving Washington a brief 1-0 lead. And Washington starter Jordan Zimmermann drilled Hamels when the Phillies lefty came to bat in the third inning.

  210. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    “I was trying to hit him. I’m not going to deny it. It’s something I grew up watching. That’s what happened. I’m just trying to continue the old baseball.

    Sign Hamels!

  211. Yankee Trader May 7th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Maybe Hamels won’t resign with the Phillies, or for that matter, with any NL team. He might tire of the payback he’ll face when in the batter’s box.

    Yankees open their wallets?

  212. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Hamels is stupid to admit he was trying to hit Harper. MLB could, and should suspend any player that admits he threw at another player.

  213. blake May 7th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    “Yankees open their wallets?”

    Nah….hope they surprise me

  214. Yankee Trader May 7th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    “Mike trout is going to be a player also”

    Supplemental draft pick the Angels got from losing……..Mark Teixera.
    ————————————————

    When you want to get future stars, you trade Mark Teixeira. The biggest haul were the Rangers getting Andrus, Feliz, Harrison, Saltalamacchia from the Braves.

  215. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    blake -

    At least players would know their SP would have their backs with Hamels on the team, much like CC, he’ll send a message if the other teams pitcher is throwing at the Yankees.

  216. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    YT -

    Maybe we need to learn from those other teams and put Tex out there now, or no later than the TDL.

  217. Benny Blanco May 7th, 2012 at 8:55 am

    Blake,

    Saw avengers last night too. Instant Classic. The humor in the movie was timed perfectly

  218. Yankee Trader May 7th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    AL-

    I couldn’t agree more. After two offseasons where Tex worked on his stroke to improve hitting from the left side the remaining $112.5M on that contract that runs thru 2016, doesn’t look too good. Maybe Tex would waive his NTC to stay near home and play for the Nats? :)

  219. 86w183 May 7th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    I love Hamels’ honesty in this. Sure, he’ll get a 5-game suspension which for a starting pitcher is absolutely meaningless. It’s an extra day off between starts.

    Would love to see him in the Bronx, but it’s hard to see that fitting in with the $ 189 plan even though he’ll cost less than the $ 29 M combination of Garcia, Kuroda and Rivera.

    I cannot envision Mariano coming back from a torn ACL for the ’13 season at age 43.

    I can envision a rotation of Sabathia, Hamels, Pineda, Nova and Hughes.

  220. Yankee Trader May 7th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    The Avengers broke the 3 day opening weekend record with $200.3M in box office sales, overtaking Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows. Apparently IMAX sales were $15M and would have been more but they ran out of seats to sell!

  221. BIG AL May 7th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    YT -

    From your mouth to God’s ears.

  222. Game of Inches May 7th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Yankee Trader May 7th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    The Avengers broke the 3 day opening weekend record with $200.3M in box office sales, overtaking Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows. Apparently IMAX sales were $15M and would have been more but they ran out of seats to sell!

    ___________________________________

    That record will only hold until July, when The Dark Knight Rises opens.

  223. jacksquat May 7th, 2012 at 9:23 am

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