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Girardi: “I’m going to leave it the way it is”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 17, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Don’t forget, today’s chat begins at noon. Stop by if you can. Until then…

For one game only, Curtis Granderson moved into the leadoff spot last night. It was as good a time as any to ask Joe Girardi how much thought he’d given to moving his home run leader into the middle of the order instead of the top.

“None, really,” Girardi said. “The thing is you want to try to break your lefties up, so you have to be careful how you do things. He hits second, which he had a lot of success (doing), and Derek has been on a ton, so he’s hitting with runners in scoring position a lot. Robbie Cano has really started to swing the bat. He’s hitting over .300. I think I’m going to leave it the way it is right now.”

But aren’t the 3, 4, 5 spots reserved for your best power hitters?

“I probably have five guys that are capable of hitting 30 home runs,” Girardi said. “It’s a different lineup than it was 20 years ago where you might have two guys that can hit, so I don’t think you can really look at it from that sense because of what our guys are capable of of doing.”

By this point, we know Girardi is a patient man. Some would say he’s patient to a fault. Others would say patience is a requirement in this game. Love it or hate it, this is Girardi’s approach, and even with the Yankees lineup struggling — even with Granderson being one of the only steady run producers — it’s hard to expect any sort of drastic change in the next few days.

“Guys have just got to get hot,” Granderson said. “Things go ahead and click for you — whether it be an at-bat, whether it be a stadium, whether it be a pitcher. All of those different things come into play. They just haven’t been there yet for everyone at this point.”

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85 Responses to “Girardi: “I’m going to leave it the way it is””

  1. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    anyone seen mtu around lately ?

    he usually holds court in the early morning.

    hopefully all’s well and he’s just on a long hike

  2. yanks61 May 17th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Wow, Chad is posting early today! Re-post:

    yanks61 May 17th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    I’d add that I always thought of baseball as entertainment, an escape from the everyday, mundane world. Yet an awful lot of folks that come on here seem to treat it like life and death rather than something to be enjoyed for its own sake.

    By the same token, I have to wonder how satisfied some of these people are with their professional lives that they feel it’s necessary to come on here to demonstrate to a lot of strangers what great genuises they are. A certain group of them even hangs out together in a kind of mutual admiration society – or maybe support group would be a better term – to reinforce and reinsure them in their beliefs.

    Tricia, what ever one might think of her stances, at least refrains from getting “clubby’ and sees both sides of most issues rather than becoming a “party” member of a particular ideology.

    Finally, Mick is an invaluable poster, along with Nick in SF, because he’s one of the very few who pokes fun (in an interesting and well informed way) at the egoistic pretensions of that certain crowd.

    Sorry, of course, if I’ve offended anybody.

  3. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    “Yeah, randy, Kuroda is the bomb.
    What a joke. A total waste. I had it right the first time.”

    this kind of ledge jumping by fans when a player has a bad game is silly.

    the yankees are clearly scuffling , but kuroda, going simply by his stats ,is not as much as a problem as the other starters (not named CC Sabathia) .

    injuries have become a big story.

    i also consider the lung problems teixeira a serious problem.

    as far as simply leaving him in the middle of the line up, i think he shouldn’t even be playing until his health clears up.

    why they let him keep playing is puzzling. his immune system must be shot for this infection to linger .

    i think cashman and girardi really need to start looking more closely how rothschild is preparing starters for games . when a whole staff isn’t pitching to the back of their baseball card you have to wonder.

    now maybe it’s not larry’s fault at all, but he’s in charge of pitching. it’s his job to get this staff clicking on all cylinders.

    for those who say this pitching slump nothing to do with him, then they should be saying that the yankees should get rid of the pitching coach job because they believe it doesn’t have an impact on the team.

  4. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Binder Joe strikes again… sheesh…

  5. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    We miss you, MTU. Do you have guests in town?

    And Chad, Girardi isn’t patient. He’s comatose, unless he’s given the chance to screw up the game for the guys.

  6. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Binder Joe strikes again… sheesh…

    Yes, because breaking up those lefties is CRITICAL to winning ballgames. Dingdong.

  7. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    I think Girardi will rest Tex if/when Gardner comes back. I don’t know if you want Wise, Granderson and Jones/Ibanez as your outfield (with Swish at first).

  8. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am

    “By the same token, I have to wonder how satisfied some of these people are with their professional lives that they feel it’s necessary to come on here to demonstrate to a lot of strangers what great genuises they are.”

    yanks61-

    is that one of your genius thoughts or just a passing observation?

  9. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Would Wang be an upgrade over anyone in our staff? Does it make sense to make a trade for him?

  10. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    I had a terrible time with bronchitis/pnemonia one winter in NYC and it went on for almost four months. Unless Tex gets REAL rest, forget about his lungs healing for a while. That’s something you just can’t grind out.

  11. DONNYBROOK May 17th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    - QUESTIONS OF THE DAY -

    (1) What is the Yankees record “Post Nunez”?

    (2) Can the Montero Huggers also handle pall bearer duties?

    (3) Will A-Rod hit another Dinger before May is out?

    (4) Is there room in the Yankee Bullpen for both Freddy and Kuroda?

    (5) Should the Yanks rush Nova back to make his next scheduled start?

    (6) Has Hughes become the Yankees 2 Slot Starter?

    (7) Should the Yankees DL TEX, and get his bronchial problem remedied?

  12. austinmac May 17th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    This team has been hard to watch lately. Coming from the perspective of a 1961 fan, I have always liked offense. Other than a homer here and there, the offense has not been good. Look at last year’s team batting average. They didn’t hit then either.

    I don’t know that Montero would have made that much difference, but it would at least have given us a young player we could hope for improvement. The current Yankee offense has no one we can expect improvement over the next year or two. Rather, we can hope for limited decline.

    I wish I knew an answer, but their is no young offensive player within 2-3 years that can contribute significantly, if at all. Now, with the refusal to add significant free agent pieces, these next few years are likely to be a significant down period.

  13. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    yanks61,

    Just curious. Did you think watching yesterday’s game was “entertaining”?

  14. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 9:34 am
    Would Wang be an upgrade over anyone in our staff? Does it make sense to make a trade for him?

    I love Wang, but I’d say no.

  15. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    Nunez is not a difference maker in this lineup. It’s not like the Yanks were 20-10 before Nunez and all of a sudden lost 7 in a row after demoting him.

  16. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    i don’t think girardi is a bad manager, but i’d like to see him do something with teixeira instead of simply waiting for him to snap out of his funk.

    i do understand teixeira has a long history of slow starts, and that’s probably what girardi is thinking.
    the think a lot of us on the blog are thinking though is that teixeira left side hitting is a real problem.

    putting it in the middle of the line up especially when he’s sick doesn’t make much sense.

    when the red sox went through ortiz being really bad a while back they dropped him down in the line up which pissed him off and lit a fire under him that is still going.

    maybe pissing off teixeira may do likewise.
    i think its worth a try.

  17. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I didn’t even notice that Nunez was gone to be honest.

  18. Hassey May 17th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I’m surprised that so many of you knowledgable baseball fans even care anymore. I’ll tell you what, I’m going to sit down for a while, right over there under that Mango tree, no not that one, the other one…do me a favor and wake me up when it’s 2015.

  19. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    That mango tree, huh? ;)

  20. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    At this point, I’d be willing to try anything with Tex… even sitting his sick butt down for a week or three.

  21. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    (7) Should the Yankees DL TEX, and get his bronchial problem remedied? Yes. Not that I want to see Swisher at first. He’s not exactly a bright bulb out there in the field.

  22. Bo knows May 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Binder Joe strikes again… sheesh…

    ——————————
    You know it’s really easy to make the above statement or shake things up, etc. How about pro active? Make a suggestion.

    The malaise is team deep. The team is old, slow and HR happy. Other than Alex, who is adjusting to his abilities the rest are playing fundamentally bad baseball. We’d better hope that Jeter doesn’t revert to last year or the team is toast.

    And then we have Hughes going today, the FB, flyball pitcher in Toronto. Small prayer here.

  23. Tackelberry May 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Hassey May 17th, 2012 at 9:40 am
    I’m surprised that so many of you knowledgable baseball fans even care anymore. I’ll tell you what, I’m going to sit down for a while, right over there under that Mango tree, no not that one, the other one…do me a favor and wake me up when it’s 2015.

    ________________________________________

    Lets make it 2033 so you can break Rip Van Winkle’s record

  24. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    ” Coming from the perspective of a 1961 fan, I have always liked offense. ”

    austin mac-

    same with me. 1961 was kind of a benchmark for a classic yankee team.

    but as pat m as pointed out that team was at the top or near the top in pitching too.

    i think that those of us who grew up with mantle , maris, berra, ford, etc have a high standard for what we expect.

    i expect more out of the yankees than what i’m seeing now. it’s not any one thing, just more of a level of complacence and a lack of excellence.

    what really bothers me is that i don’t have a feeling that the yankees are building towards a better future. it feels like things are lowly eroding. the 189 ceiling from the new CBA seems to have really impacted the yankees behind the scenes.

    i would much rather they take a step back to regroup rather than just slowly go backwards.

  25. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Bo,

    A lot of people have suggested line-up changes for weeks, so there hasn’t just been complaints about Girardi’s inability to act.

    Tex needs to be DLed. Not that that will improve his swing.

  26. austinmac May 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    It matters very little how Girardi makes out the lineup if the players who are supposed to produce, don’t. They have too many black holes. Remember the days of a circular lineup? Right now, I struggle to decide who I want up in an important situation.

  27. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    ” I’ll tell you what, I’m going to sit down for a while, right over there under that Mango tree, no not that one, the other one…do me a favor and wake me up when it’s 2015.”

    say hi to pedro for us all :)

  28. Hassey May 17th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    if I wake up in 2033, I’d like to hear that the Yankees just retired Gary Sanchez’ number

  29. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 9:57 am

    “At this point, I’d be willing to try anything with Tex… even sitting his sick butt down for a week or three.”

    sunny615-

    i’m puzzled by how the yankees just keep running teixeria out there with this lung infection.

    people don’t just have lung infections for nothing. plus the guy is a health nut ( which i think is a good thing).

    i would sit him down until it totally clears up.

    this may be another case of the yankees just not thinking when there is a chronic health problem though i can’t imagine this lung thing causing an injury. it’s just weird to let it keep going on without changing his playing time.

    he has to be affected energy wise. that’s just common sense. id like to see him at a100% energy level.

  30. yanks61 May 17th, 2012 at 9:57 am

    Randy L
    yanks61-

    is that one of your genius thoughts or just a passing observation?

    —————————————————————————

    I’m not the one claiming any genuis, old buddy, so consider it a passing thought. It’s Randy who thinks he’s just dandy, not I. So don’t consider me a reflection of yourself.

    Hey, Randy, you used to be a good guy. A little eccentric maybe, but still fun to read. Now you’ve just become another old crank (yeah, I’m an old buzzard, too, but at least I don’t feel it necessary to go around proclaiming myself some kind of know it all.)

    Wang in Tawain: I sympathize with you if you take the game that hard. It happens so god-darned often in baseball, though, that if it’s going to affect you that way, you should maybe just turn the game off.

    I’ve followed the Yanks and the game in general pretty closely since about 1953. I’ve played at every level from Little League through college to semi-pro. I never reached the elevated level that Pat M had (and I am in awe and have tremendous respect for that achievement), nor do I have the statistical knowledge and quick research and rebuttal skills of Jerkface (whom I don’t always agree with, but usually find quite skilled and quite interesting.) And I don‘t consider myself in any way, shape or form, any kind of expert. But I expect people who pose as such to have the credentials to back it up (in other words, they’ve actually worked in the game at the pro level) or else post their arguments with a little more humility (not act as though they’re the second coming of Branch Rickey.)

    And, by the way, even Rickey, Weiss (who of course was an SOB as well as the GM that put together the Yanks 50s dynasty), and all the other much lauded GMs, committed some pretty big boners of their own. So, if even those pros who have actually played the game, or helped run the game for years and years, can make mistakes, what degree of confidence should we have in ex-bullpen catchers or fans with their fannies in the stands?

    Just a thought, no special sign of genuis. I leave that to the Randy L’s of this world. Must be nice to think so highly of yourself, especially when it’s merely a manifestation of a delusion.

  31. Bo knows May 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Tex needs to be DLed. Not that that will improve his swing.
    ————

    Line up changes – okay, simple one – move Teix one spot down or DL him. Put Martin’s butt on the bench. There is no one to replace them. Cervelli is pouting down in AAA, even worse numbers than Martin. Teix – Chavez the porcelain king or Swisher. There are no competent OFs to step up.

    Too many trouble spots to cover them all. Too many patch jobs. For God’s sake, we’re pining for Gardner for God’s sake.

  32. austinmac May 17th, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Randy,

    I too have begun to wonder if now is not the time to rebuild. The team is aging, and I see no thought as to how to deal with that. They watch and hope that Teixiera and AROD will rejuvinate. I used to make sure I was in front of the tv when those guys hit. Now, their isn’t much to see. In fact, their isn’t anyone that I look forward to coming to bat. Even Cano is frustrating.

    I do remember Whitey was 25-4 in 1961. When he gave his CY Young acceptance speech, he said he was going to talk for 7 minutes and Luis Arroya for the last two. Good days.

  33. Hassey May 17th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    Howard Johnson, I mean, Bo Knows is right – this may be NSFW to hear, but we don’t have enough fingers for this dyke.

  34. Bo knows May 17th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    The old song “Where do I begin?”

    I’ve decided to hunker down. This is just a bad team spiralling down with a whole bunch of egos playing their baseball cards approach with no way to do a reality check. I’m going to enjoy the good games, good at bats or good pitching sequences and ignore the rest.

  35. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Yanks61,

    No worries. I’m not a glutton for punishment. Did anyone watch the entire game yesterday? Ugh. Too depressing. I love the Yanks, but I really don’t like this particular team much…except watching Jete who has just been flat-out inspiring.

  36. jacksquat May 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am

    Girardi tried hitting Granderson and Cano back to back early in the season, the other teams bought in lefty relievers a couple times, he vowed to never be beaten that way again and we haven’t seen them back to back since. Nevermind that the primary concern should be beating the starter, nevermind that last year they both killed lefties. So now they are stuck with Granderson and Cano 2/4 or Granderson hits 6th (because he is not in the 3/4/5 club), which is ridiculous and counter to Girardi’s statement that the better hitters should hit higher in the lineup. This guy probably has convulsions if he brushes his teeth in the wrong order.

  37. longtimefan May 17th, 2012 at 10:09 am

    Not a big Girardi fan and IMHO he makes mistakes but never takes responsibilty–that said, he can’t hit for this team–Jeter is playing extremely well, Granderson hitting hrs but does strike out quite a bit, Tex is a real mess, should be sat until health improves, Arod is now and will be a shell of himself for the remainder of his yankee career, Cano regressed to swinging at everything within 2 foot of the plate, Swishwer, contract year, swing for the fences to help next years payday, Martin is average at best–at his point not much difference between him and Stewart, Ibanez a bright spot, Jones is what he is, older and slower. Unless some key people can turn it around could be a long season frustrating season.

  38. Bo knows May 17th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    NB
    Jeter was playing extremely well. The last few games were the dreaded roll overs to the SS. Seems to be low on magic elixir.

  39. austinmac May 17th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Teixiera and AROD, the two highest paid guys on the team, are in a steady decline. Tex may be sick, but he was healthy last year and we saw a preview of this year. AROD’s slugging percentage has gone down five straight years. It is now at .412. That is a number for an eight hole hitter. If anyone has any reason for optimism on these two critical parts of the team, I am all ears.

  40. austinmac May 17th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Wang,

    No, I couldn’t watch the whole game. Once it got to 5-0, I knew I had seen this before and didn’t want to see it again.

    It will be interesting to see how the Yankees move forward. Swisher and Granderson are in their 30s. I read an article yesterday about the bad contracts given to outfielders in their 30s. I don’t think they will be back. I think I am about as close to a replacemnt for them as they currently have.

    We are in for a major transition awaiting and praying for the low minor players in three years. Of course, for every low A star who makes it, about five fail.

  41. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    “Just a thought, no special sign of genuis. I leave that to the Randy L’s of this world. Must be nice to think so highly of yourself, especially when it’s merely a manifestation of a delusion.”

    hey, you’re the one taking unsolicited pot shots.

    you must think very highly of your judgement of other people.

    you speak of active baseball in the past tense. baseball is something i still do almost every day.

    i’m not sure we actually see the game in the same way. i don’t get doing something for a long time and then just watching. to me baseball is like yoga. something i do and don’t just talk about.

    maybe that confident vibe i have about baseball rubs you the wrong way, that’s your right, but if you want to ally with trisha, mick, nick in sf in an alliance against me, no problem.

    just be prepared to be in a for a fight :)

  42. Bo knows May 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    I on the other hand am a big Girardi fan. This was the tightly wrapped Joe, remember? I expected him to whack somebody ala Tortorella, an occasional zoo. Didn’t do it.

    He’s toned himself down, doesn’t throw players under the bus, handles the BP beautifully. With scrap pitching, two stars breaking down last year, ran the team to 97 wins.

    Same guy this year.

    I think he deserves respect, not this Binder/GI Joe horse manure.

  43. Stoneburner May 17th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    but if you want to ally with trisha, mick, nick in sf in an alliance against me, no problem.

    *********

    Too funny – now there are recognized alliances – - – - I just wonder who will be voted off at the next tribal council – - – -

  44. Bo knows May 17th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Oh by the way

    I’ve been waiting for someone to acknowledge that Randy has shifted – ala tectonic plates to “Move Cashman sideways” rather than fire his butt.

    That was a Major policy shift.

    Kudos Randy

    Now back to your regular …

  45. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    “I too have begun to wonder if now is not the time to rebuild. ”

    austin mac-

    it just seems that a step back to take two steps ahead would be smart.

    this new CBA is some serious stuff.

    i don’ t think the yankees are being straight with fans what they are trying to do.

    right now this is all just a hunch, but i get the feeling they are going to let players like swisher and even granderson walk. i don’t see any young players ready to step in when this happens.

    just picking up the low price left overs like ibanez and jones in the future doesn’t seem very yankee like.

  46. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    “I’ve been waiting for someone to acknowledge that Randy has shifted – ala tectonic plates to “Move Cashman sideways” rather than fire his butt.

    That was a Major policy shift.”

    bo knows-

    well he’s been there so damn long that he now has invaluable experience, and since i’m a big believer in experience, i’d like to keep cashman’s experience in the yankee organization.

    i would have liked if they had kept torre in the organization.

    i do realize keeping guys who are slid sideways can create a lot of voices in an organization, but i prefer lots of competing ideas in an organization.

  47. Wave Your Hat May 17th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    It was time for Torre to move on.

  48. mick May 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Tricia, what ever one might think of her stances, at least refrains from getting “clubby’ and sees both sides of most issues rather than becoming a “party” member of a particular ideology.

    Finally, Mick is an invaluable poster, along with Nick in SF, because he’s one of the very few who pokes fun (in an interesting and well informed way) at the egoistic pretensions of that certain crowd.
    ===================================
    Thanks for the kind words yanks61.

  49. DONNYBROOK May 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    The loss of Gardner and the demotion of Nunez, has left the Yankees with Very little team speed on the bases. No 1st to 3rd on a single, and scoring from 1st onna double?? Forget it. This has contributed Greatly to the lack of scoring. You can talk all you want about, “not hitting with runners in scoring position”, but like a cattle drive, you gotta “move ‘em out”. RAW HIDE OFFENSE.

  50. mick May 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    but if you want to ally with trisha, mick, nick in sf in an alliance against me, no problem.
    ===========================
    ah humility….

  51. Hassey May 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    This site is the best reality show on TV

  52. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    I’ve made a number of suggestions last night – but as always – Binder Joe is going to sit through this and let his players wallow around. And they weren’t revolutionary either – a lot of the same stuff that’s been discussed here repeatedly – move Tex down the order, make him hit to the left side at least once a game (whether it’s a hit, out, or bunt), stop offering CC a personal catcher (I’m not sold on this CC/Stewart thing), among others…

  53. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    “It was time for Torre to move on.”

    i agree as far as manager goes.

    had he stayed in the organization, there would have been a dissenting viewpoint instead of all yes men and kiss asses.

    you have to admit it would be a different organization if he was in some advisory position.

  54. Wave Your Hat May 17th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    “had he stayed in the organization, there would have been a dissenting viewpoint instead of all yes men and kiss asses.”

    At the time Torre wanted to be a very highly paid manager. He didn’t want to be Director of Player Development Coordination at a fraction of the salary. It just wasn’t in the cards.

  55. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Apparently, Pearce is raking (somewhat) at AAA. DL Tex, bring up Pearce, Leave the outfield as is. I’d also think about finding a way to bring up another AAA starter (either Mitchell or Warren) to see how their fair in the show (if Hughes regresses again or Nova’s ankle doesn’t heal/alters mechanics/stinks). Fresh blood now and again couldn’t hurt.

  56. Bo knows May 17th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    well he’s been there so damn long that he now has invaluable experience, and since i’m a big believer in experience, i’d like to keep cashman’s experience in the yankee organization.

    i would have liked if they had kept torre in the organization.

    i do realize keeping guys who are slid sideways can create a lot of voices in an organization, but i prefer lots of competing ideas in an organization.

    —————-
    Agreed, but I felt it was important to acknowledge the event. Kept waiting for the troops to chime in, didn’t happen.

    I rate management by the proteges and when Oppenheimer and Keppler were considered for GM posts, that was the reality check. Rothschild and Long are another indicator. They’re not doing that much good but they’re as good as it gets.

  57. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    “ah humility….”

    just remember mick

    the ball always finds the weak link :)

  58. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Pearce is hitting to a tune of .331/.423/.579

    Sit tex til his lungs stop burning… bring pearce up.

  59. mick May 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    randy, there is no alliance against you.
    in any case, if that bothers you, it seems contradictory on your part, as you seem to enjoy the controversy.
    one thing though, in the manner of others in here, your cowardly display of never defending yourself, always being and taking the offensive, indicates that you have no defense or are afraid of being exposed.
    like yanks61 so eloquently said, if you feel you are the leader of a mutual admiration society, so be it, but some will “question your authority.”

  60. mick May 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    just remember mick

    the ball always finds the weak link
    =======================
    confucius say:

    randy makes no sense.

  61. Bo knows May 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    move Tex down the order, make him hit to the left side at least once a game (whether it’s a hit, out, or bunt), stop offering CC a personal catcher (I’m not sold on this CC/Stewart thing), among others…

    —————
    Teix with his swing cannot hit to the oppo field. Physically impossible

    Between the bobbing and weaving, the roundhouse swing and the collapsing back leg, his hands never drop into the slot.

  62. yanks61 May 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Mick – Thanks for the kind words yanks61.

    —————————————————————————-

    My pleasure, Mick. I’m glad to see that there are still a few people on this blog that don’t take themselves too seriously.

    As for alliances, I remain neutral – just like Finland! Or maybe, you can call me one of the unaligned nations, so I can get goodies from everyone, on all sides of every issue:)

    But I do tend to like the Mick, Nick, Trish camp (and I could probably add Pat M to that group.) Hey, maybe I can get some of those well thought of Ritter bars going around. I’d probably be persuaded to throw my lot in with those guys for a few measly bars. This is going to be such a powerful alliance. So do the others guys become the Axis?

  63. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    I’d also think about bringing up Whelan to support the pen – if they need it … (1.83 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 17 holds, 9 saves). I know you’d be starting the clock on this guy, but at this point, it addresses some thin-ness of the pen.

  64. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    That’s the problem – Tex is always using his uppercut swing to aim for the short porch. He has got to stop collapsing his back leg. Shift his hips more and level out the swing. But nope… it’s not the swing… sigh…

  65. Hassey May 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    I’ve been reading and posting here for over a year, and I still have no idea what “camps” or “alliances” you’re all talking about. Maybe I’m dense or don’t care enough to be more observant, but to me this whole place seems like a nightly free for all, where almost anyone on any given night would be thrilled to pick you up and throw you out of the ring

  66. yanks61 May 17th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Keep up the good work, Mick and have a good afternoon. Good afternoon to everyone else, even the old crank. And remember:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrdEMERq8MA

  67. mick May 17th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Ah yes…Monty Python…The Bright Side of Life….should be the LoHud theme song.

  68. randy l. May 17th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    “But I do tend to like the Mick, Nick, Trish camp … This is going to be such a powerful alliance. ”

    yank61-

    just remember 4 X 0 = 0 :)

  69. Against All Odds May 17th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Question are the Yankees better off going forward now than they were after they won the WS? When they won in 09 there seemed to be new life with the franchise: Cano coming into his own, CC the ace we were looking for, A-rod and DJ still contributing, Mo being as great as ever, Hughes and Joba on the rise, Drob surprising everyone, Tex being an imoact bat we were missing, etc.

  70. LGY May 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    3 runs or less AL teams alphabetical order

    Angels: 18
    19
    15
    15
    21
    15
    12
    16
    16
    17
    18
    22
    16
    Yankees: 14

  71. LGY May 17th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    5 runs or more

    Angels: 15
    14
    18
    15
    18
    19
    14
    17
    13
    14
    13
    14
    Yankees: 23

  72. mick May 17th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Randy,
    Once again , no response….Don’t you care that it makes you look shallow to your “followers?”
    Are you just cowardly or do you lack the substance to reply?
    Your “followers” want to know.

  73. sunny615 May 17th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    And yet – they’re still in third place …

  74. Hassey May 17th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    if only one of you was a vampire, I would swear this site had more drama than Dark Shadows

  75. LGY May 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Runs Allowed

    3 or less

    20
    18
    17
    16
    19
    23
    18
    14
    15
    18
    6
    20
    Yankees: 13

  76. Duh Innings May 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    The Yanks should, at some point this season, trade Kuroda, Garcia, Martin, and Swisher so they can get something for guys who will be free agents and somewhere else after this season. They should also pick up the 2013 club option on Granderson then trade him in the offseason.

    The Yanks will not give Granderson the minimum three years (which would take him through age 35) and whatever amount over $13M (since he’s making $13M in 2013) he will want.

    They will not give Martin the minimum four years (which will take him through age 34) and whatever amount over $7.5M a year (since he’s making $7.5M this year) he will want.

    They will not give Swisher the minimum three years (which would take him through age 35) and whatever amount over $10.25M a year (since he’s making $10.25M this season) he will want.

    ‘Bottom line is they’re not locking up guys through age 34 or older when they’re already most likely stuck with Teixiera and Rodriguez through ages 37 and 42 respectively.

    2013 Yankees if I was the Yankees general manager and @#$% anyone who says he/she is glad I’m not:

    C – Romine
    1B – Jeter
    2B – Cano
    3B – Ronnier Mustelier, late 20s Cuban League defector who can play a better 3B than A-Rod
    SS – Nunez
    LF – Mason Williams
    CF – Gardner
    RF – Melky Cabrera
    DH – Juan Rivera

    This entails trading Rodriguez and half his contract to Seattle and trading Teixiera and half his contract to whoever is willing to take a veteran Gold Glove 1B who posted 39 HR and 122 RBI in 2011 for a measly four years x $11.25M a year = $45M compared to the $250M the Angels just wasted on Pujols who will probably be worth the money in only the first six years if he doesn’t break down. Both players would waive their no-trade clauses because they wouldn’t want to play for a team who doesn’t want them anymore and they got their World Series rings with the Yanks so no big deal if they went elsewhere as they’re winners no matter what they do in their post-Yankee careers.

    Under my plan the Yanks would eat up to $117M but clear the same through 2017.

    I doubt Romine will produce like 2011 Martin, Mustelier like through 2010 A-Rod, Mason Williams like 2010 Gardner, Gardner like 2011 Granderson, Jeter like 2009-2011 Teixiera, but the first three will cost less than $1.5M total, the first four less than $5.7M total assuming Gardner gets a 50% raise from $2.8M to say $4.2M (he may receive less.) They are total low-risk, high-reward proposition. If Romine fails, Cervelli becomes the C. If Mustelier fails, Brandon Laird and/or a veteran the Yanks could sign becomes the 3B, or Mustelier platoons with either. If Williams fails, the Yanks could move Melky to LF, start Rivera in RF, and make a veteran the Yanks could sign for the bench the DH. If Nunez fails, well, he’s the one who’ll have to play it out as Jeter is the 1B and can’t switch places with Nunez. If Melky fails, he’s another one you’lll have to tough it out with.

    Is it radical? Of course it is. Will it happen? Of course it won’t. Cashman is a small-minded check writer who can’t develop homegrown talent to save his life as Cano is the ONLY star player he has developed, so why would I expect him to go with kids making nothing at C, 3B, SS, and LF? ‘Thing is who’s to say what the Yanks get from trading Kuroda, Garcia, Martin, and Swisher this season, Rodriguez, Teixiera, and Granderson in the offseason wouldn’t help the Yanks? I think we could get at least two keeper players from trading those guys.

  77. OldSchoolYankeeFan May 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Hello to everybody, I just signed up here after going back home to see family and watching Freddy Garcia get shelled by the Kitties. Now I’m back in the Bay Area, the center of the universe for “laid back” fans. While it sucks that the team has had less than a stellar start, I think Joe is right to be preaching patience. If they’re still playing like this a month from now, than all bets are off.

  78. mick May 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    This place is more bloody than Dark Shadows.

  79. LGY May 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Runs Allowed

    5 or more

    14
    12
    16
    16
    10
    15
    19
    14
    16
    23
    17
    Yankees: 18

  80. Tackelberry May 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Duh Innings:

    Who exactly is going to take the guys you mentioned? And what exactly can the Yanks expect to get for those guys? Only one who might have value is Swisher, and he’s an impending FA so I don’t see them getting mich in return.

  81. LGY May 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Yankees Rank

    Scored

    5 runs or more: 1/14
    3 runs or less: 2/14

    Allowed

    5 runs or more: 12/14
    3 runs or less:

  82. LGY May 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Yankees Rank

    Scored

    5 runs or more: 1/14
    3 runs or less: 2/14

    Allowed

    5 runs or more: 12/14
    3 runs or less: 13/14

  83. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    “But I do tend to like the Mick, Nick, Trish camp … This is going to be such a powerful alliance. ”

    There are LoHud alliances now?! Lol, I wonder which I’d fall into… I know blake and I belong to the ‘we hate the budget’ club. :)

    MTU, Chip and Patrick haven’t been around as much lately :(

    Erin is on sabbatical :(

    I still miss the morning crew lol.

  84. Shame Spencer May 17th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Thanks for the breakdown LGY!

  85. Stoneburner May 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    mick May 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am
    Tricia, what ever one might think of her stances, at least refrains from getting “clubby’ and sees both sides of most issues rather than becoming a “party” member of a particular ideology.

    Finally, Mick is an invaluable poster, along with Nick in SF, because he’s one of the very few who pokes fun (in an interesting and well informed way) at the egoistic pretensions of that certain crowd.
    ===================================
    Thanks for the kind words yanks61.

    ***********

    Awwww – lohud – where the posters are just as important as the ballplayers – and we celebrate posters’ personalities as if they are playing in the game itself – 21st century social networking and technology at work.

    While the players have WAR – the posters will now have PAR – Posts Above Replacement value.

    Congratulations – based on this post – you both are at +7.6 PAR – good for fourth in the Lohud Posting League. . . . .

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