Ibanez one of the few brights spots in a bleak lineup
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 21, 2012 
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Raul Ibanez isn’t the only player in the Yankees lineup who’s been productive this month. It only seems that way.
Ibanez is hitting .308/.379/.731 in May. Robinson Cano is hitting .361/.410/.597. Alex Rodriguez has a .387 on-base percentage, but he’s hitting for no power. Curtis Granderson has five home runs, but he’s struck out 21 times. Derek Jeter is hitting for average but not much else.
There are bits and pieces that have gone according to plan, but as a team, the Yankees rank 22nd in baseball in runs scored this month. They’ve scored one more run than the Twins. If they hadn’t, the Yankees would be this month’s lowest-scoring team in the American League.
“There’s a lot of great hitters in this lineup,” Ibanez said. “We’re going to hit.”
The Yankees players and coaches have been saying that for a while now.
Out of this ugly stretch of games, Ibanez has emerged. In the month of April, he hit more or less the way he did last season. Didn’t get on base much, but he showed decent power against right-handers. This month he’s been one of the driving forces in a malfunctioning lineup. Playing time might have helped. Because the Yankees have faced a lot of right-handers, Ibanez has been in the lineup more regularly and is just six at-bats shy of last month’s total.
“That definitely helps,” Ibanez said. “Being in the lineup a lot, we’ve had a string of a lot of righties in a row and that’s definitely nice, but either way you’ve got to be ready and try to be productive when you’re in there.”
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Against All Odds May 21st, 2012 at 8:31 am
To change things up a bit from the Montero talk and personal attacks Bret posted an interesting question yesterday and it got a few responses so I thought why not bring it up again:
“Granderson and Adam Jones will both be free agents heading into 2014.
Who would you rather lock up long-term for the money?”
neither – let Grandy finally patrol CF and let your AAA kids fight over left and right.
DOH!!!
I meant
neither – let *Gardy* finally patrol CF and let your AAA kids fight over left and right.
I’d rather not think about Granderson until later in 2013.
Mason Williams 2014.
What if the AAA kids aren’t ready by then?
Don’t see Granderson getting a long term deal unless he can get his average up….
Still see Cano as the only other big contract the Yankees hand out and i hope they work an extension this year and not when he is a FA.
Adam Jones. They MUST get younger, but no 8+ year contracts for anyone.
A-Rod has hit one to the track three games in a row with only a 2B to show for it. Maybe that’s a good sign.
G. Love,
The clamoring for Montero makes even less sense and is even more annoying than my Melky blitz posting. Montero has an OPS under .700 and is constantly cited as the missing link of this offense while Melky enjoys an OPS near .900 and is ignored by everyone but me. There are about 100 Montero posts per Melky posts – yet I’m polluting this board and not the other way around. I understand how you may not appreciate the humor in the Melky posts because you are convinced that the Yankees can’t possibly win that Montero deal plus it is more recent and fresh but the least you can do is acknowledge the irony.
For right now, one has to hope that the Orioles continue to play like a first-place team and the Yankees find a way to beat up on KC.
If Kuroda knows how to attack the zone, he needs to actually do it rather than
Interesting stats. I was surprised to see that the Yankees are 6th in the majors in BA and 8th in R and 7th in RBI. I thought they’d be a lot further down. Not surprising, however, was to find them 22nd in ERA and 26th in SP ERA.
I would think the Orioles recognize what they have in Adam Jones and would do whatever they can to lock him up before he htis FAs. Alot more teams are doing that now. Seems like they all have money they never seemed to have before.
Besides the obvious daily Montero rants, I’m curious how many posts I missed bashing Cashman for passing on Chapman as well
And I will keep posting my Melky posts in response to the Montero mourning. Melky’s a better ballplayer right now and he’s a free agent in 2013. Montero is a DH in Siberia for the next 6 years. So Melky is the more immediate and relevant player in my mind and the one who has a more realistic shot of being a Yankee. The rest of you can project “generational hitter” 10 years down the road. Whatever.
Hassey,
What AAA kids?
In fact, you can complain about that trade for the next 10 years on this board…i don’t really give a sh*t
If Melky continues hitting like he has, he would cost nearly as much if not as much as Swisher. So if the Yankees won’t resign Swisher because of his cost, the same would apply to Melky.
“I would think the Orioles recognize what they have in Adam Jones and would do whatever they can to lock him up before he htis FAs. Alot more teams are doing that now. Seems like they all have money they never seemed to have before.”
Thinking the same thing Tackleberry. And Jones has basically done his growing up in Baltimore (his full-time seasons.) Angelos definitely has the money. He just hasn’t shown a great willingness to part with it. But with Duquette on board and the Orioles showing a tendency toward success, I would think the Orioles would absolutely sew him up. And why would he want to leave a team where’s he’s spent most of his time, when that team is actually finally making it? Jones doesn’t seem like a show-boater. My guess is he stays with the O’s.
Jacksquat,
Would you take Adam Jones or Granderson if the money was comparable? I’d say Jones because he’s younger. The same applies to Swisher and Melky. You go with the younger player.
86w183 May 21st, 2012 at 9:30 am
Adam Jones. They MUST get younger, but no 8+ year contracts for anyone.
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I’d go with Jones as well. Maybe it’s the panic setting in but I’m starting to feel that this team is going to waste the prime yrs of Cano(once he’s re-signed)
And why would he want to leave a team where’s he’s spent most of his time, when that team is actually finally making it?
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Money. That’s what 99 percent of players base their free agent decisions on.
. My guess is he stays with the O’s.
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We’re screwed lol.
Bret The Hitman May 21st, 2012 at 9:41 am
Jacksquat,
Would you take Adam Jones or Granderson if the money was comparable? I’d say Jones because he’s younger. The same applies to Swisher and Melky. You go with the younger player.
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Well, my point was that if they aren’t going to spend that kind of money on the position, then it’s irrelevant. Granderson I can wait another year to think about.
“Money. That’s what 99 percent of players base their free agent decisions on.”
Except I am betting that the Orioles will offer him good money. Plus if they are smart enough to do it before his contract is up, it’s over.
Jacksquat,
But if they are planning to spend that kind of money in the OF, these are the candidates they should be weighing in CF and RF. They should be looking at Jones vs. Granderson and Swisher vs. Melky.
This is why the Yanks should absolutely jump all over Soler once he’s declared a FA. Gonna be that much harder to get young talent now with the stiffer IFA and draft slotting rules
This is why the Yanks should absolutely jump all over Soler once he’s declared a FA
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They won’t offer him anything. Financially they have turned into the Pirates
The contracts to Tex and Arod have shrunk their budget down to Pirate size. And there will be mutiny.
I meant any kids that will be in AAA by then. I’m just sick of FA signings, such a crap shoot, guys rarely translate form one league or even one stadium to another and contracts are such big gambles now for both sides. Even if we don;t win for a while, I’ll be happy if we clear out soem of the current team’s scar tissue and grow healthy new flesh within 5-10 years, if I’m lucky enough to live that long to see it.
I’ll say this. I don’t have any problems with Cashman or anything he’s done. I understand the reason for the Montero trade. I’m not crazy about what happened to our pitching in the Dave Eiland ERA.
But I do feel like the organization is a bit of a rudderless ship right now because I don’t have any feel for what the Steinbrenner boys are about. How enmeshed in the daily workings of the organization were they until George’s death? How much of George’s philosophy do they even care to carry on?
I think they may currently lack the same mission statement that they always had under George – winning is everything. When George was alive, there was a tacit understanding that the manager would be under the spotlight and the team was expected to produce. Even if that was seen as heavy-handed it was there. And the manager knew it was there, and the team knew it was there. There was more of a sense of urgency or something.
Without that, it seems that some of the fire is gone. And this is a tough time for that to happen because the AL has suddenly gotten a lot tougher.
I believe in the team, and in the players, and yes in Girardi. But I don’t know if there’s anyone there preaching religion anymore. And face it, with religion they were like teams on a mission. Whether or not they should have needed it, it was there. And with more of the old guard leaving and newer players coming in, if that isn’t there anymore, things may be more loosey goosey. If you get the money to play for the Yankees but not the old approach, maybe it’s easier to let down.
Okay, I don’t know where I’m really going with this or if makes any sense at all.
Trish – are you broadcasting live from your local opium den?
Tex and Arod are ineffectual fat cats who have gobbled up the leftovers. I wouldn’t read into the current state of the Yankees any further than that.
Tex and Arod are ineffectual fat cats who have gobbled up the leftovers. I wouldn’t read into the current state of the Yankees any further than that.
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They couldn’t sign Cameron or trade for him at the deadline a few years back because of money. Damon contrary to whatever garbage they gave about Ibanez was a money move. They are turning down 1 year contracts with players because of money.
Granderson
Career: .267/.345/.495 with 20HR, 56 RBI and 105 SO (in 2011, 41 HR, 119 RBI and 169 SO)
he has 45 SO 1/3 of the way into the season and is on pace for 135 SO
Jones:
Career: .278/.322/.449 with 12 HR, 45 RBI and 72 SO (in 2011, 25 HR, 83 RBI and 113 SO)
it’s a wash – Power vs BA. Grandy gets on base at a slight higher clip, but still less that what you’d like. With Grandy, it’s HR vs SO. With Jones, more your avg CF.
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Yankees AL Rank
Offense:
Total Runs Scored: 5th
Batting Average: 3rd
OPS: 3rd
Scoring 4 runs or more: Tied 2nd
Scoring 5 runs or more: 1st
Scoring 3 runs or less: 2nd
Pitching:
ERA: 10th
Quality Starts: 12th
Allowing 5 runs or more: 12th
Allowing 4 runs or more: 13th
Allowing 3 runs or less: 13th
Defense:
Errors: 3rd
UZR: 12th
DRS: 14th
Defensive Efficiency: 12th
Total Zone Rating: 13th
And they traded for Pineda supposedly to save money on Hamels or Greinke. Perhaps they even passed up Gio because of his paycheck. They traded Melky in the Vazquez deal because he was due to make 3 million. They passed up Keppinger and bid on some Japanese shortstop only to back out. They let Lance Berkman walk because of money. They passed on Holliday because of money.
It all links to the ineffectual fat cats – Tex and Arod.
‘I’ll say this. I don’t have any problems with Cashman or anything he’s done’
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Of course not, everything is candy canes and lollipops and to think we are only a game out of last place with an aging / old team.
Yankees AL Rank
Offense:
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In may they are scoring 3.72 runs per game, AL average is 4.2
We can all dream of the players we’d like to see in pinstrips, but, let’s also be realistic of the fact this ownership will not spend the money necessary to do what is necessary to fill the immediate, and long term needs.
Hal is all about making money, lowering payroll and getting under cap, not winning at all costs, like The Boss.
The only way I can envision those days returning, is if the Yankees are sold to someone like Mark Cuban, who’ll open his pocketbook to do what is necessary to aquire the needed pieces.
I’m not interested in an Allstar at every position, just the needed pieces to get this great machine running smoothly, now and long term.
The Yankees have passed on way too much talent in the past couple of years, while other teams have made the moves to strengthen themselves leaving us less competitive than our competition.
They passed on Beltran because of money – again linked to the ineffectual fat cats – Tex and Arod.
Bret -
I agree with your position. However, if Hal and Hank wanted to make the necessary moves, and were willing to pay the cost for being over cap, those bad contracts would not be an issue.
189 – Tex and Arod = 139
139 million dollar budget and you can’t have a permanent DH
BIG AL,
But Hal and Hank were willing to pay Tex and Arod so they’ve done their part.
anyway, it’s still hockey season around here, and it’s never a terrible thing to see some other teams finally rising from the ashes…ask me again in mid-August, when we really might be pining for 1982
Bret -
I believe A-Rod, despite lost power numbers, will continue to be an asset, while Tex is dragging this team down like a huge anchor.
They passed on Holliday because of money.
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To be fair they passed on Holliday and the money went to Tex.
The offensive numbers deceiving because they’re skewed because they score so many runs in wins but fewer than 3 in losses (for the most part). When they hit, they hit a lot. When they don’t – they almost don’t – at all.
‘We can all dream of the players we’d like to see in pinstrips, but, let’s also be realistic of the fact this ownership will not spend the money necessary to do what is necessary to fill the immediate, and long term needs’
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True. There will be no Hamels, Greinke, Kershaw, Cain etc. Not just because of Hal but also due to having the ‘Titanic’ salary anchors of ARod and Tex. $ 50 plus million for years to come as production continues to spiral downward.
What a thought, 4 years from now we will still be saddled with these two. Ugh !
Why couldn’t Tex and Russell Martin have taken the Red Sox money instead?
Therre’s no question the mega contracts are hamstringing the organization.
I don’t have a problem with fiscal sanity as long as the Yanks are at or near the top spending teams in baseball since they are at the top in revenue.
IF $ 189 M happens the Yanks will end up counting on a lot of first, second and third year players. If they are going multi-year deals in the next year or two it needs to be for guys in their 20′s — Adam Jones, BJ Upton, Melky — rather than 30′s — Granderson Swisher.
I’m still convinced Mo will NOT pitch next year. With he and Kuroda gone the Yanks are at about $ 180. Depending on what they do with Granderson, Swisher, Martin, Soriano and Cano they will have plenty of $$$ to look for younger replacements.
Yeah 4 years from now Tex and Arod’s salaries will still be paralyzing spending. And just think of how horrible they will be performing by the time the spending freeze has a chance to begin thawing.
Why couldn’t Tex and Russell Martin have taken the Red Sox money instead?
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Mike Trout would be here right now
Brett you are campaigning to bring a certain player back to the Yankees. I’d like to see Melky back in pinstripes as well. He is a much better player than when he left the Yankees.
Triple Short of a Cycle May 21st, 2012 at 10:34 am
Why couldn’t Tex and Russell Martin have taken the Red Sox money instead?
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Mike Trout would be here right now
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Didn’t someone say we would have lost him anyway because we lost a pick by signing CC. Although I think JF explained that he could have still fallen to the Yankees.
Anyone else watching the Face book debacle this morning? It is currently about $4 below its IPO price. Pity those who bought it on Friday!
Comet,
Yup. I’m campaigning for Melky, Adam Jones or BJ Upton and Gary Sanchez and Mason Williams on the fast track. For pitchers I’m campaigning for Anibal Sanchez or a trade involving Granderson for a young pitcher comparable to Madison Bumgarner.
Bret -
How do you think this team would have looked with a CJ Wilson over a Kurada?
Melky in place of Swisher, leaving Swisher to DH and be the 4th OF?
This team has no bench depth, just a few odds and ends left overs that you can’t put together to make one solid player. Other than Ibanez, there is zero production off the bench. Add to that a starting C that can’t bat .200, and lee than steller D, and you have the makings of a mediocre team.
I love the Yankees, and still have faith in them as a team, but, one must also be aware of the facts as they are, and not look at them with rose colored glasses.
Pity those who bought it on Friday!
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Can’t say I pity anyone who gambles with their money in a game that is rigged and where only the wealthy and connected people make money
Didn’t someone say we would have lost him anyway because we lost a pick by signing CC. Although I think JF explained that he could have still fallen to the Yankees.
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The 2 teams that were hot on Trout were the Yankees & Angels. If they didnt sign Tex, the angels pick after the Yankees.
Conceivably someone else could have taken him, but it was unlikely. Jersey players weren’t well regarded.
BIG AL,
Wilson scared me because he was a converted reliever and the investment in him was huge for someone without a lengthy track record. I never wanted Kuroda though.
I don’t think they would make Swisher the DH in a contract year because they want to keep their players happy. I believe Joe Torre’s loyalty is something the organization tries to emulate or replicate but it shouldn’t apply to this current bunch. They are overpaid, spoiled and opportunistic compared to the dynasty teams. Those squads had throw-back players with something to prove like Brosius, O’Neill etc. When the team gets a new crop of young players in place, then Joe-Torre loyalty is more appropriate and I would welcome its return. Now? This entire organization needs a Buck Showalter to come in and clean house and hurt people’s feelings.
Thanks JF
Bret, I agree with as per Buck Showalter . A Larry Bowa would be welcome too. Sometimes people and athletes become complacent. A Bowa or Showalter would challenge that complacency!
Bret -
Agreed! I’m a huge fan of Buck, he’s a very smart baseball guy that knows how to get it done. And I don’t mind who’d toes he steps on, I’d give him the reigns and let him do his thing.
Mission #1 this offseason, sign Cole Hamels
CC – Hamels – Nova – Pineda – Hughes/Banuelos/Pettitte.
I’d rather give Hamels a long-term deal than Granderson.
In my opinion, it’s not how much money the Yankees have spent on players that’s a concern, its the players they chose to spend it on.
The team needs better baseball minds making the critical choices, at all levels.
Some of the best trades, are the ones that don’t take place.
I’m happy we never got Cliff Lee.
I’m sad, despite he’s contributions, we got Granderson, and lost A-Jax and IPK.
Later folks, Y’all have a great day.
Some of the best trades, are the ones that don’t take place.
I’m happy we never got Cliff Lee.
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If Lee signed here then I don’t agree with your statement. Right now we would have Lee instead of a someone who is dead
“Anyone else watching the Face book debacle this morning? It is currently about $4 below its IPO price. Pity those who bought it on Friday!”
comet-
one of the biggest drawbacks with facebook is it’s so easy to put up negative stuff against anyone. it takes forever to get them to remove objectionable and even illegal sites.
you can’t talk to anyone ever. there is no where to complain except their little box that a facebook page is objectionable.
so why trust a company that has no accountability to users?
when everyone is nice facebook is a useful tool, but when has everyone played nice in the history of mankind?
too many people get burned with facebook, complain , have nothing done about it, and then are finished with facebook.
i could be totally wrong, but i personally don’t like it at all because of facebook’s lack of accountability with it’s users.
i think it’ll fail over time. like i said . could be totally wrong on this one.
I can understand the Mgr NOT using a player when he is sick, like Girardi did with TEX on Saturday. But then to use TEX as a RH PH on Sunday, with nobody on base and he’s Not even the tying run, is absolutely DUMB. Throw in the fact that Jones was also available, makes this move even DUMBER.
NEVER seen a ball hit to LF get knocked down like A-Rod’s did yesterday. That ball was at least 5 rows deep when it left his bat. Wrigley Field worthy.
Hassey, based on the lack of reponses to my post, I think I was indeed broadcasting live from my opium den!
Blake has spoken of it and I agree that the Montero trade was simply fiscal. A top end pitcher costs 20 mil+. To get under the cap the Yankees had to find a reasonable cost pitcher ie controlled contract. Their only bargaining chip was Montero. They traded Noesi now, for Campos down the line.
The reality is that there are three huge contracts and the playing field has changed. Cashman’s mandate was to bing the team under 189 by the term, not spend money now and make the playoffs. For example, sign Beltran and trade Swisher and pieces for a top end OF at AA or even A ball. That is the type of out of the box thinking that is required. That has now gone by the boards. Maybe the Yankees got lucky with Mustelier but he won’t be ready till next year.
I agree about Facebook. “Someone” created a phony Facebook account under my name, using one of the baseball photos that I had published, and set up a really defamatory site. Something like that certainly wouldn’t have been great for my professional reputation, let alone my personal reputation. I eventually got it taken down, but I can never know how many people saw it in the meantime.
Facebook is a little too nosey for my tastes. I see it as nothing more than one huge gossip site.
Bo, I think the trade was more than fiscal. I think it was intended to add necessary punch and longevity to the rotation, a rotation that indeed needed/needs it.
Hopefully its promise will be fulfilled at some point.
Randi I agree with you about FB. I’m not a member, don’t have an account and won’t likely buy the stock.
randy l. May 21st, 2012 at 11:07 am
“Anyone else watching the Face book debacle this morning? It is currently about $4 below its IPO price. Pity those who bought it on Friday!”
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Randy, I didn’t buy, but I think the Facebook francise is strong. Learned a long time ago never to base anything on one day in the market. I do think as many others did that it’s offering was right at the top of the range which was too high. Wait for the first qrterly results that will be the tell going forward.
TB will prolly win 90 games.
Not sure about Balt and Tor.
We have to shoot for that goal. Doesn’t look like a 90 win team as of now.
Things can change, hopefully for the better.
The loss of Mo isn’t being spoken about much, strange.
Robo is the question mark.
Without him we are going nowhere.
I’m sure are a lot of people trying to make a quick buck with Facebook like any other popular new IPO. This one is just a lot more popular than most.
The Yanks are trying to stockpile enough arms to have an inexpensive but talented pitching staff in 2014. I’m pretty confident that can be accomplished.
I’m less confident about the position player situation in 2014. It’s another reason why Id like to see Mustelier get a chance by mid-season.
Wow. Just in case you don’t think the Yankees aren’t hitting their revenue projections with this current team I just got an email from them with a buy 2 tickets get 2 tickets free in the main & field level sections. They’re giving away 2 tickets in great sections just to sell 2 tickets.
Cashman’s on the hot seat.
A-Rod is still getting on base.
Here is a wild idea for lineup change. Have high OBP guys at top, best average at 3rd. most dangerous at 4-5. I know no way they move tex to 8th, but still…. And of course this would be dependent on Gardner actually playing.
1. ARod
2. Gardner
3. Jeter
4. Cano
5. Granderson
6. Swish
7. Ibanez
8. Tex
9. Martin
I’m pretty confident that can be accomplished.
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I wish I had your confidence.
G. Love May 21st, 2012 at 11:23 am
Wow. Just in case you don’t think the Yankees aren’t hitting their revenue projections with this current team I just got an email from them with a buy 2 tickets get 2 tickets free in the main & field level sections. They’re giving away 2 tickets in great sections just to sell 2 tickets.
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Francesa mentioned that the Yankees were having special deals for tickets.
G. Love, I’m happy they’re doing that. Whatever their reasoning, if it gets fans in the seats cheering for the team, I see that as a good thing.
About Cashman being on the hot seat – if we were in a bustling economy and were at the old Stadium and this happened, I would be inclined to agree. There are just a lot of unhappy factors adding into the mix.
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Hey mick!
The Yanks are trying to stockpile enough arms to have an inexpensive but talented pitching staff in 2014. I’m pretty confident that can be accomplished.
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If he really believed that, he would be out there already letting people know he is going to allow Joba to go back to the rotation in 2013.
Joba, Pineda, maybe Banuelos? Hughes? Nova? Phelps?
and CC and probably Pettitte too……
Rather watch them than Kuroda and other 10M players stink it up.
I think the thing I’m most amazed by right now is that a 28-year-old Harvard dropout who started something just to get back at his former girlfriend is now a multi-billionaire because of it!
This Yankee team took a nose dive Immediately after the Nunez demotion. Dumb moves like that reverberate through an entire clubhouse and that is obvious by what we see on the field. Not just L’s, but a team with the breath knocked out of it. Yea, I know Nunez incurred some kinda thumb injury down there, but he shouldn’t have been there to begin with. Wrong place, wrong time. Chemistry continues to be one of the Most overlooked aspects of a TEAM.
trisha – true pinstriped blue May 21st, 2012 at 11:30 am
I think the thing I’m most amazed by right now is that a 28-year-old Harvard dropout who started something just to get back at his former girlfriend is now a multi-billionaire because of it!
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Is that the real reason or the movie reason?
DONNY, team took a dive when Gardner and Swisher were out at the same time.
Absolutely no speed on this team with Gardner and Nunez gone.
They barely even ever get from 1st to 3rd on singles to RF.
I think the thing I’m most amazed by right now is that a 28-year-old Harvard dropout who started something just to get back at his former girlfriend is now a multi-billionaire because of it!
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Unfortunately that product produces nothing and creates no jobs because of it
I understand that he had the prodigy tag by the time he got to Harvard, so maybe it would have been something else if not Facebook. Wonder what it’s like to be a multi-billionaire at the age of 28. Wonder what it’s like to be a billionaire at any time! In fact I wonder what it’s like to be a millionaire. In fact, I wonder what it’s like to have an extremely healthy bank account.
Bo, then why were the Yankees ready to sell the farm for King Felix and his costly salary, which is definitely not cap friendly?
Looks like Kuroda will have to pitch through rainy weather tonight. Ditto, Brett Marshall.
Ibanez has been doing a great job at the Stadium; however, his road numbers need to improve: .213/.296/.404.
Some of us have followed Melky since the trade and would love to have him back, but the cost will likely be prohibitive.
Yanks have had special deals on tickets all this year unlike the occasional ones in the past. That weekend Saturdays were so readily available this season when they were impossible to get before 2012 says it all. The Yanks unundate my mailbox with ticket deals and dump tickets daily on Stubhub. If they don’t win, we will see an empty ballpark, although warmer weather and the kids being out of school will help. I just hope we don’t make some quick fix move without considering how our present affects our future.
“Unfortunately that product produces nothing and creates no jobs because of it”
Even more disgusting!
Damn those newspapers for not producing jobs, or TV channels!
Also, I should add the buy two get two free in main are for these Monday through Wed. weekday games vs. Kansas City. So, I doubt that deal brings too many people out regardless of cost.
Triple Short of a Cycle May 21st, 2012 at 11:34 am
I think the thing I’m most amazed by right now is that a 28-year-old Harvard dropout who started something just to get back at his former girlfriend is now a multi-billionaire because of it!
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Unfortunately that product produces nothing and creates no jobs because of it
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Gekko: I create nothing, I own
Damn car companies, not producing jobs! Damn *any corporation ever*. No company literally manufactures jobs. Facebook creates jobs by hiring programmers to work on facebook & whatever else it is working on, people to manage the infrastructure, the website itself, other spin offs dealing with the emergent nature of the enterprise (community managers for companies that want to maintain a facebook presence) etc.
You could say it doesn’t produce a product that people pay for, which is more true.
Oh and a word about Long. People are getting on his case. He stabilized Cano, changed Swisher and Granderson at the plate. Ibanez keeps acknowedging him. Long is a technician. He preaches simplifying your approach so less things can go wrong.
Once he does that he can’t do a mind meld. He can’t stop Granderson and Teix from pulling everything because they’re focused on the stats. He worked with Teix to quieten down his approach, Teix is right back doing the one man band.
And after all that, if it doesn’t work
FIRE CASHMAN
Nothing wrong with going the Gordon Gekko route
“Is that the real reason or the movie reason?”
Not sure. Zuckerberg wasn’t happy with his movie portrayal that he started facebook to find suitable dates. He said he did it to improve the world.
How Facebook improved the world is beyond me.
I’m thinking that people who become multi-billionaires from creating something probably have a lot more people in their employ by the time they do it, than Zuckerberg has in his.
I could be wrong.
How Facebook improved the world is beyond me.
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It has connected ppl in a way that hasn’t been done before. Families reunite and find loved ones on Facebook. Although some individuals have said it has made us more isolated. Of course it depends on how ppl use it.
Personnally, I’m not a stock market guy. Free Market? HAHAHAHA. They have built in circuit breakers to rig the deck, and there is NO supply and demand. A Comp. can print all the stock it wants, sell it, give it to employees as bonuses, etc. Just look at Walmart. Billions of shares out there, with the Walton family holding the controlling interest with their “Preferred” stock. You got $$$ to throw around, buy some land that will grow food and build a house.
ac1 May 21st, 2012 at 11:25 am
A-Rod is still getting on base.
Here is a wild idea for lineup change. Have high OBP guys at top, best average at 3rd. most dangerous at 4-5. I know no way they move tex to 8th, but still…. And of course this would be dependent on Gardner actually playing.
1. ARod
2. Gardner
3. Jeter
4. Cano
5. Granderson
6. Swish
7. Ibanez
8. Tex
9. Martin
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This lineup makes a lot of sense – which means it will never happen of course. Our lineup seems to be a reflection of salary. Why not move Tex? Are we afraid to hurt his feelings? It’s crazy having hit so far up in the lineup when he hardly ever gets a hit. I mean if he heats up as the summer goes a long, by all means move him back up.
How Facebook improved the world is beyond me.
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Its a central hub for people to connect. That I can stay in contact with people from around the world and check up on them and what they are up to at the drop of a hat is pretty amazing. A far cry from the time delay of being a pen pal.
You could say it doesn’t produce a product that people pay for, which is more true.
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Cars get people from point A to point B. Newspapers get people information. It doesn’t invent new medicine to fight diseases. It provides no worthwhile service whatsoever
Where do I find details on buy two, get two?
Would like to attend Wednesday’s game
Should I just go to the box office?
Bo, then why were the Yankees ready to sell the farm for King Felix and his costly salary, which is definitely not cap friendly?
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Yep, you got me there. Doesn’t make sense whatsoever. It would destroy both the budget and the future of the Yankees.
Right now the only chips the Yankees have are Phelps and the two amigos in AAA. Banuelos is the future and Betances has little value compared to his potential
I would posit that it was a ploy to get to one of Seattle kids but I simply don’t know.
Okay, so maybe I wish I had been a multi-billionaire at the age of 28. Maybe that’s at the heart of this.
It still amazes me, however. That was a shot in the dark but a successful one.
Cars get people from point A to point B. Newspapers get people information. It doesn’t invent new medicine to fight diseases. It provides no worthwhile service whatsoever
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You can get information on facebook. You can connect with friends, family, strangers. It acts as a functional yellow pages with its company fan pages. A small business that cannot afford a website can have 1 for free on facebook. You’re thinking too small minded.
“That I can stay in contact with people from around the world and check up on them and what they are up to at the drop of a hat is pretty amazing. A far cry from the time delay of being a pen pal.”
Good point.
This is a really boring Yankee team. I wouldn’t be surprised to see more empty seats as the season goes on. If this team keeps on failing and doesn’t make the playoffs then expect less fans showing up, lower ratings for Yankee games. Cashman should be on the hot seat.
“Cars get people from point A to point B. Newspapers get people information. It doesn’t invent new medicine to fight diseases. It provides no worthwhile service whatsoever”
No worthwhile service? I would beg to differ. The ONLY way we know what’s going on in our world, know about things that affect our lives more than what someone is eating for breakfast thousands of miles away, or what they happen to be thinking at that very moment, is through the media.
And if we didn’t have cars, we couldn’t get to many places we need to be in order to keep living day to day.
86, you have to use mastercard: http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....-269979728
Now if we own anyone a debt of gratitude, it’s Al Gore. Didn’t he invent the internet?
You can get information on facebook. You can connect with friends, family, strangers. It acts as a functional yellow pages with its company fan pages. A small business that cannot afford a website can have 1 for free on facebook. You’re thinking too small minded.
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Just like Jobs he didn’t create anything. Instead he just stole it. Right down to the source code. Facebook stole from My Space who stole from Friendster who stole from Classmates. It is pretty sad when we lionize someone like him or Jobs and you hear so little from people who truly make a difference
Here’s hoping Kuroda has an awesome delivery tonight.
GO YANKEES!
GO O’S! (you don’t want the Yankees in last place, do you?)
Later y’all.
And if we didn’t have cars, we couldn’t get to many places we need to be in order to keep living day to day.
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You misunderstood me. I was using those examples as things that provide invaluable services which is the total opposite of Facebook.
If I wanted to keep on touch with people from High School or College I never would have lost touch in the first place.
Now if we own anyone a debt of gratitude, it’s Al Gore. Didn’t he invent the internet?
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No but he did help to pass legislation that made it possible which is what he was saying in the first place
Isn’t a rain out likely tonight? Its pouring here in Manhattan.
‘The Facebook Blog’ is now here. LOL ! If ‘Facebook’ is non responsive, Yahoo is non existent as far as getting a live body on the phone to handle an issue. Useless.
I get a kick out of the simplistic approach. Fire Cashman and Girardi as in throw out the baby with the bathwater. Careful what you wish for.
Girardi did a hell of a job as late as last year. Management is always a fine line with the troops. Cashman would probably be grateful to be fired. He’s managed the impossible for way too many years.
Towers committed miracles in San Diego for years and he got fired.
I’m pretty sure that Girardi and Cashman won’t survive the current situation. I doubt they’ll be hurting for long.
Josh Norris ?@jnorris427
Missed this yesterday, but Tampa DLed Turley and added Evan DeLuca, sent Aaron Dott to SI and added Matt Bashore.
Ugh, was hoping Turley wouldn’t be DL’ed. Hopefully it is a short stint and the blister doesn’t plague him.
How many national telecasts have been either Philly or Washington? 
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No national coverage of Darvish-Hernandez tonight?
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Bo, well that is the thing are we trying to stay under that 189 magic number or aren’t we?
“You misunderstood me. I was using those examples as things that provide invaluable services which is the total opposite of Facebook.”
Sorry. I didn’t know that you had posted that originally. I missed your post and saw it when jerkface posted it. I thought he was saying it and was saying those services were not valuable.
Duh.
and to think Darvish would have only cost 10 million per year toward the payroll. About half of what a free agent ace would have cost and for less years
Poetkiosk, likely showers all night that we will play through. We rarely have rain outs, even when it is pouring. I would prefer Kuroda has better conditions to pitch under, but it is what it is.
Triple Short of a Cycle May 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
and to think Darvish would have only cost 10 million per year toward the payroll. About half of what a free agent ace would have cost and for less years
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He would filled some seats as well.
Here is a thought – the Yankess offer one game free to apologize to the fans for their putrid play.
Darvish would have been nice to have. If it was cost that prohibited our signing him that is legitimate if you buy into the 189, although not having him may be more costly in the long run, depending on what moves we have to make. However, I can’t believe the Yankees would assume a negative by merely signing a Japanese pitcher because they got burned on Igawa who never had Darvish’s upside, pitches or body type. I can understand cost and even not wanting to take the risk, but evaluatively the Yankee scouts had to see how well Darvish’s stuff would translate to mlb. So, I can’t believe it was the latter that deterred us.
Yanks don’t need to offer a free game; depending on game, you can buy tickets for pennies on Stubhub.
*not* signing a Japanese pitcher
Jeremy May 21st, 2012 at 11:52 am
This is a really boring Yankee team. I wouldn’t be surprised to see more empty seats as the season goes on. If this team keeps on failing and doesn’t make the playoffs then expect less fans showing up, lower ratings for Yankee games. Cashman should be on the hot seat.
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Doubt Cash is on the hot seat, beyond him being the second generation of the teflon man he has all the injury situations to point at.
I guess during the last few seasons that the Yanks during the regular season have escaped the funk and gone on to a decent season so there is still hope.
Beyond that many of the issues discussed during the long winter are still in place and a number of opportunities passed on by the Yanks to get so and so are looking pretty good right now.
I think the main undercurrent is that we are looking at a team getting old, and also so far a display of the old saying that past performance doesn’t guarantee future results.
GO O’S! (you don’t want the Yankees in last place, do you?)
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No, I want them in first place. They’re 5.5 games behind the division lead. For someone who keeps pushing the poppies, you certainly lack confidence. We win tonight, and Baltimore goes down, we gain a full game on the division leaders. Staying out of last place isn’t the goal, it’s making our move to get closer to first.
Bo, well that is the thing are we trying to stay under that 189 magic number or aren’t we?
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Personally, I think the Pineda trade was their last chance to get under the cap. Now, I don’t think it can be done without wrecking on the missed playoffs. You can spin one and done in the PS. You can’t spin “out of it”. Maybe they’ll get lucky with Pineda.
The problem is that there is no time frame with the Yankees, no time to retool. There is so much pressure to patch every year and then come the suits’ interference like the A Rod and Soriano contracts.
The present team malaise is a shocker. The signs were there for a couple of years, but it came to a head, as in right now.
Girardi did a hell of a job as late as last year. Management is always a fine line with the troops.
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Tremendous job in the ALDS, putting Ayala in a winnable Game 2 when he had a rested Robertson in the bullpen.
Tremendous job, never moving up Posada, who was one of the few bat on ball, productive hitters in the lineup.
Tremendous job, letting Montero rot on the bench when we had no one the barrel the ball with the bases loaded and less than two outs, sending up guys swinging from their heels at junk off the plate, when the pitcher had to throw a strike, but knew um, he really didn’t.
Tremendous manager, that Girardi. He makes just ONE adjustment, like moving Posada up, we may have been playing in the ALCS, against a Texas team that featured LHP (and no one named Darvish in the rotation).
But hey, for a guy that wanted to make NO adjustments and was saving his best BP for a rainy day, he did a tremendous job.
“No, I want them in first place. They’re 5.5 games behind the division lead. For someone who keeps pushing the poppies, you certainly lack confidence. We win tonight, and Baltimore goes down, we gain a full game on the division leaders. Staying out of last place isn’t the goal, it’s making our move to get closer to first.”
That was just my pre-emptory strike. If I lacked confidence I’d want Baltimore to lose. Since I don’t lack confidence, I will stay the course and always hope for the Sux to lose. However, you do whatever floats your boat, hey?
KC wins the series.
All I’ve heard from the team is they are going to hit and maybe that is true but at least you have to consider that maybe, just maybe they won’t hit.
This week Yankees will be the last place in the division.
When was last time?
The last time I remember was when they were 9.5 out in May. That could have been 2004, not sure.
“You can get information on facebook. You can connect with friends, family, strangers. It acts as a functional yellow pages with its company fan pages. A small business that cannot afford a website can have 1 for free on facebook. You’re thinking too small minded.”
jerkface-
facebook no doubt offers uniqueservices, but it’s a double edged sword where there is a real downside because there is no way to remove malicious sites easily.
you, for example, use “jerkface” as a username but if you posted on here with an easy username to figure out who you were, someone could make up a facebook page and totally bash you if they wanted. it’d be part of the searchable web. what if you lose a job because of it?
plus what right does facebook have to allow malicious sites and not have a way for someone to talk to them about them?
it’s a built in clue that they don’t really care.
that’s why i think facebook has a problem long term.
i use linkedin for connecting with people around the world and it is much more professional.
if facebook decides to have some accountability , things like a customer service number, or a chat line ,or even email where they get back to you, i’d consider using it more.
as it is it’s a kid tool acting like a grown up.
I think most of us sense that even tho it is still early, there are pieces missing that we just can’t produce easily . Do we really see this lineup all of a sudden being really productive?
I think this lineup could be a little more productive and I think the pitching may get a little better but I must have been high on something this preseason thinking this team was going to be competitive in the AL east. I just don’t see them winning 90 games this year and less than that won’t get it done.