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Yankees pregame: Girardi reacts to last place; Rivera still no surgery date

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 22, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brian Heyman here today at Yankee Stadium for Chad. Haven’t been here for a while. I go away and the Yankees can’t hit in the clutch anymore and are in last place, or at least tied for last with Boston, at 21-21, 5 1/2 back. The world is upside down. But it’s only May, and we’ve seen them sputtering this month before and wind up fine, albeit with Mariano Rivera in the team’s big picture.

Asked if there’s a feeling around here that the Yankees shouldn’t ever be in last place, Joe Girardi said, “I think as players, fans and an organization, you always feel that way. You might be in last place because you’re 0-1. But we feel we’re a much better club than what we’ve played. We’re in last place, but every team in our division is .500 or better.”

There doesn’t seem to be a lot that Girardi can do. He moved Mark Teixeira down to seventh last night and has him there tonight. But overall the Yankees are locked into these guys. They have to hit. There aren’t many answers on the bench.

“These are the guys that have to get it done for us,” Girardi said. “These are our guys that we’re committed to, that we believe in, that we’ve seen do it year after year after year and we’re committed to them. They have to find a way to get it done. It’s no different than a year that they put up 35 and 115. They’ve had to find a way to get it done. In saying this, I”m not putting pressure on them. But I’ve seen them do it over and over.”

Girardi said he hasn’t heard anything out of the ordinary from ownership. And he said he has tried to stay on an even keel.

“You don’t get too high when things are going well,” Girardi said. “And you don’t get too low when things are going bad in a sense. I think it’s important you remain the same, pretty much the same. You might have a few more conversations with players when they’re struggling. I’m not a guy that’s going to turn over a table. I’m not a guy who’s going to jump on a table when we win, either, and do a dance. That’s not who I am. I’ve found that managers that have that pretty constant personality are the ones that get the most out of their players.”

Rivera was in the clubhouse walking without crutches, although he did have a bit of a limp. He said the pain is more tolerable with the torn ACL. He has been working on strengthening the knee and is still taking blood thinners for his clot. So there’s still no date yet for the surgery. Girardi said the rehab now may cut down on some of the time needed on the other side of the operation.

“It’s not frustrating,” Rivera said about his situation, “because you can’t do anything about it.”

 

 

 

 

 

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63 Responses to “Yankees pregame: Girardi reacts to last place; Rivera still no surgery date”

  1. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 22nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    blake May 22nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    “But if you had to choose, going forward, who would you rather have?”

    Heyward going forward…..Granderson now….Id ask them….dont know if Id do it or not

    ________________________

    Okay. Thanks for the feedback. I would do it, if Atlanta would do it. But you are right, doubtful Atlanta does that, even if we include someone from Charleston.

  2. LGY May 22nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    Bret The Hitman May 22nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    Lebron is a choke artist.

    ————

    Playoffs PER/WS 48

    LeBron: 26.7/.229
    Durant: 23.4/.189

    Durant is an excellent and extremely efficient scorer, but he doesn’t compare at all to LeBron’s passing ability and defense. And if we are going to talk playoffs, it’s not like Durant has won anything yet anyway. I don’t think the Heat will win a championship this season, but neither will the Thunder. They are not getting past the Spurs IMO.

  3. hardwired7 May 22nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    Rivera w/torn ACL > the rest of humanity

  4. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 22nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    “These are the guys that have to get it done for us,” Girardi said. “These are our guys that we’re committed to, that we believe in, that we’ve seen do it year after year after year and we’re committed to them. They have to find a way to get it done.”

    This is kind of like Joe Girardi’s Norman Dale impersonation from Hoosiers when he tells the student body: “This is your team.” Of course, Girardi does not appear to be Gene Hackman, and I think we already traded away the Jimmy kid who was a sharp shooter practicing in the backyard, I am guessing that would have been Montero.

  5. Against All Odds May 22nd, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Bret The Hitman May 22nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    I hope 2012 is Durant’s first title of many. He plays exciting basketball and there is no hype around him. I just got tired of the NBA trying to recycle Jordan’s name and attempt to brand current players as legendary. It’s insulting to anyone who watched Jordan. I think Durant’s career is going to be great for the sport and I’m so happy that he’ll be dominating the sport and elevating a small market team in OKC of all places. It’s perfect.

    —————————

    What he’s doing is tremendous but he still has a way to go. That Thunder team is exciting no doubt about that.

    Brett be fair though when you bring up Kobe and Bron you’re talking about to guys who will go down in history as two of the best ever

  6. Yankee Trader May 22nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Rivera was in the clubhouse walking without crutches, although he did have a bit of a limp. He said the pain is more tolerable with the torn ACL. He has been working on strengthening the knee and is still taking blood thinners for his clot. So there’s still no date yet for the surgery. Girardi said the rehab now may cut down on some of the time needed on the other side of the operation.
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    He’ll have to be off anticoagulants before the surgery, so they still must be concerned about the phlebitis. I don’t see how his rehab will be shortened. In fact, if he needs anticoagulants post-op he’ll be further delayed from making a comeback.

  7. Against All Odds May 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    People hate on LeBron, but he is easily the best player since MJ.

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    No love for KB24 :)

  8. bruceb May 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    Mariano only has a slight limp…can he hit for us tonight?

  9. Yankee Trader May 22nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Sabathia used to be a decent hitter. Maybe they can trade for Micah Owings, the best hitting pitcher out there.

  10. GreenBeret7 May 22nd, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    22m Josh Norris?@jnorris427

    Jeremy Bleich is pitching again in EST. When he comes back, it’s likely to be as a reliever. #Yankees

  11. LGY May 22nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    No love for KB24

    ————

    How you view Kobe really depends on your opinion of advanced stats with basketball, IMO. I personally don’t think they are as reliable as baseball stats because there are so many more variables involved but still do see the value in them. So I guess I fall in the middle. I don’t see Kobe as MJ but at the same time I think he’s a better player than the advanced stats paint him.

    Those stats say LeBron is a lot better than Kobe. To illustrate, Kobe has never led the NBA in PER or Win Shares. LeBron on the other hand has led the league in PER the past 5 seasons and Win Shares the past 4 seasons.

  12. Yankee Trader May 22nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Buster Olney 3/2012. This is why the Braves won’t trade Heyward making just over 500K for Granderson making 10M and 13M next year.

    The Cardinals’ signing of Yadier Molina to a $75 million deal changes the landscape for the Atlanta Braves, as the possible free agency of Brian McCann looms at the end of 2013. The cost of high-priced catching just went up dramatically.

    Atlanta holds a $12 million option on McCann for next season, and then the Braves must decide whether to invest an annual salary in the catcher that might absorb somewhere between 15 percent and 22 percent of their entire budget.

    And keep in mind: The Braves’ payroll is not growing. All around baseball, new TV contracts are filling the bankrolls of the Los Angeles Angels, Texas Rangers, San Diego Padres, etc. But Atlanta’s television contract is locked into place for the next generation, and its payroll has remained stagnant.

    2001: $92 million
    2002: $94 million
    2003: $106 million
    2004: $90 million
    2005: $86 million
    2006: $90 million
    2007: $87 million
    2008: $102 million
    2009: $97 million
    2010: $84 million
    2011: $91 million

    Payrolls are growing all over baseball, but not in Atlanta. Salaries are climbing, but the Braves’ budget is not.

  13. jackamir May 22nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    JOE GIRARDI——TURN OVER A TABLE—— SHOW SOME EMOTION——–JUST ONCE!!!!!!

  14. theREALkevin May 22nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    “I’ve found that managers that have that pretty constant personality are the ones that get the most out of their players.”

    This is pretty lol considering that Joe has routinely NOT gotten the most out of his roster.

    Oh man I love Yankee quotes. It’s fun to pick them apart AND some people here get annoyed as hell by it. You know, ‘cuz the Yankees can do no wrong. HA HA HA

    (By the way, I love this team & I think they will make the playoffs. Does it matter to the people who blow a gasket when anyone even suggests the Yankees aren’t infallible? Nah.)

  15. Against All Odds May 22nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Fair enough LGY

  16. theREALkevin May 22nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Yanks due for a win tonight. Later.

  17. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    Yankee Trader May 22nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    _______________________

    Thanks for the post.

  18. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 22nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    LGY May 22nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
    No love for KB24

    ————

    How you view Kobe really depends on your opinion of advanced stats with basketball, IMO. I personally don’t think they are as reliable as baseball stats because there are so many more variables involved but still do see the value in them. So I guess I fall in the middle. I don’t see Kobe as MJ but at the same time I think he’s a better player than the advanced stats paint him.

    Those stats say LeBron is a lot better than Kobe. To illustrate, Kobe has never led the NBA in PER or Win Shares. LeBron on the other hand has led the league in PER the past 5 seasons and Win Shares the past 4 seasons.

    ____________________________-

    Good points, but give me the big fundamental down in San Antonio. Plus, the way the rule changes went, it is much easier for guards and wings (like Kobe and Lebron) to dominate. I still like a true great big longterm over a guard (of course MJ is a different discussion).

  19. jacksquat May 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Yelling at them is only warranted if they are not trying as hard as they can. I don’t think that’s the problem.

    But Cashman, Girardi and Long should call Tex into the managers office and have an intervention for his lefthanded swing.

  20. Bronx Jeers May 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    “These are the guys that have to get it done for us,” Girardi said. “These are our guys that we’re committed to, that we believe in, that we’ve seen do it year after year after year and we’re committed to them.

    —————————

    The commitment is to a contract not a player. The Yanks would cut these guys so quick their heads would spin if they could.

    The Girardispeak does get tiring. Do you think he talks like this to the team?

  21. Yankee Trader May 22nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Like Prado. The Braves might be willing to trade FA Bourn[6.845M] and Prado[4.75M] for Gardner and Nunez if both were healthy, in order to stay within payroll.

  22. austinmac May 22nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Bret, we experienced Durant for too short a time here, but what a player. I also think he is as good a person as he is a player. He would come to Austin to practice with his ex-college teammates in the off season. He was a star and rich, but he slept on his friend’s apartment couch. He could have made noise about playing in a big market. Instead, he quietly signed an extension with OKC.

    It is hard to pull against him despite the proximity of the Spurs.

  23. Yankee Trader May 22nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Cashman, Girardi and Long should call Tex into the managers office and have an intervention for his lefthanded swing.
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    Maybe a priest should be there too. :)

  24. Against All Odds May 22nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    He could have made noise about playing in a big market. Instead, he quietly signed an extension with OKC

    —————————–

    He was a restricted free agent he had no choice.

  25. Rich in NJ May 22nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    “Maybe a priest should be there too.”

    As well as St. Jude?

  26. jackamir May 22nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    They should have put Teix on the DL 3 weeks ago. DH days for Arod -Now we know why..His bottom half can’t explode through the hitting zone. He should hit 2nd in the lineup. Swisher is gone after this year..Look to the future and start cheap. The writing was on the wall when they passed on Chapman & Darvish…..

  27. yankfan May 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    fire cashman

  28. LGY May 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Good points, but give me the big fundamental down in San Antonio. Plus, the way the rule changes went, it is much easier for guards and wings (like Kobe and Lebron) to dominate. I still like a true great big longterm over a guard (of course MJ is a different discussion).

    ————–

    The Spurs are incredible. Just ruthlessly efficient in all aspects from on the court up to the front office. Things can change quickly in an NBA season, but they look unbeatable right now.

    I wish Cashman and Girardi had even half the brain power of RC Buford and Popovich.

  29. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    LGY May 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Good points, but give me the big fundamental down in San Antonio. Plus, the way the rule changes went, it is much easier for guards and wings (like Kobe and Lebron) to dominate. I still like a true great big longterm over a guard (of course MJ is a different discussion).

    ————–

    The Spurs are incredible. Just ruthlessly efficient in all aspects from on the court up to the front office. Things can change quickly in an NBA season, but they look unbeatable right now.

    I wish Cashman and Girardi had even half the brain power of RC Buford and Popovich.

    _________________________

    Or even Presti! He is a former Spurs.

  30. Rich in NJ May 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    “I wish Cashman and Girardi had even half the brain power of RC Buford and Popovich.”

    Let alone Grunwald and Woodson.

  31. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Does anyone like Denard Span going forward? More than Gardner in LF?

  32. Purenyyankee May 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    This says it all about this team. This was tweeted by Jack Curry:

    @JackCurryYES: Remember Cano’s grand slam off Hochevar on May 6? Since then, Yanks are 0 for 12 (w 2 walks and sac fly) w bases loaded(Elias). Shocking.

    Shocking and completely UNACCEPTABLE!

  33. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 22nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Is there any coincidence that Hal Steinbrenner has the same sounding name as the AI from 2001: A Space Odyssey. And both are cold, emotionless, and distant from their subjects (Hal Steinbrenner from the team and the fans/ the HAL AI from 2001 from the spacemen). Okay, back to baseball.

  34. Purenyyankee May 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    You mean Corporate Hal. He could care less about this slide. He is nowhere to be found. All the brass is M. I.A. Where has that clown Cash-Man been? Hiding from another psycho girlfriend?

  35. Yankee Trader May 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    That was HAL from 2001 Space Odyssey, and SIRI gets mad at me anytime I bring up that name! :)

    Gotta go.

  36. GreenBeret7 May 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Lidge makes more sense than the “We Gotta Get Cole Hamels At All Costs” Brigade on here.

    Jon Heyman?@JonHeymanCBS

    brad lidge on phils-hamels situation: “they’re going to have to ante up. he hasn’t been willing to take discount so far.”

    Jon Heyman?@JonHeymanCBS

    Lidge further speculates #dodgers possible landing spot for hamels. “I’m sure I’m not the 1st to say that.”

  37. Jerkface May 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    I like Span, not more than Gardner though. Now if Gardner went in a deal for a great OFer like Heyward or Upton (which frankly isn’t going to happen) then picking up Span would be alright. But I wouldn’t swap the two by themselves.

  38. blake May 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Id ideally like someone better than both Gardner and Span in LF longterm……I like Gardy but he gets hurt a lot and hes a speedster thats nearing age 30…..

  39. blake May 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    Hal should make Hamels a Yankee…….he will lower the payroll instead

  40. Yankee Trader May 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    GB-

    No Lidge. I predicted that Hamels if not re- signed by the Phillies would stay in the NL and return to his southern California roots[from San Diego} and be a target for the new ownership Dodgers.

  41. Jerkface May 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Id ideally like someone better than both Gardner and Span in LF longterm……I like Gardy but he gets hurt a lot and hes a speedster thats nearing age 30…..

    I don’t think I’d sign Gardner once he is a FA and both are going to be FA in the same year I think. They should move Gardner to CF and Granderson to LF.

  42. Rich in NJ May 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    “Hal should make Hamels a Yankee…….he will lower the payroll instead”

    And maybe, over time, the value of the brand.

  43. blake May 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    “They should move Gardner to CF and Granderson to LF.”

    Yea probably…..if they re-sign Granderson it should be as a corner guy probably….

  44. jackamir May 22nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    If you had your choice now Mattingly or Girardi.

  45. mykyl1 May 22nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Hey Tex learn to freaking bumt you useless piece of human wate. You are a liar and a fraud. Your contract is sucking the life out of the fans and team. I hope you bat ninth and strike out 300 times and then go sell apples on a corner in Harlem for a living. You suck

  46. Against All Odds May 22nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    blake May 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    Hal should make Hamels a Yankee…….he will lower the payroll instead

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    He should also make Hamilton a Yankee that would turn a lot of things around

  47. blake May 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    “If you had your choice now Mattingly or Girardi.”

    Mattingly but I dont think Girardi is the biggest problem……Hal calls the shots.

  48. blake May 22nd, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    “He should also make Hamilton a Yankee that would turn a lot of things around”

    Granderson, Gardner, Hamilton …..best defensive and offensive outfield in baseball.

  49. jacksquat May 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Hamels career interleague: 6-10, 4.19 ERA, 20 games started.

    I’m not really interested for the contract he is likely to command.

  50. Against All Odds May 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Granderson, Gardner, Hamilton …..best defensive and offensive outfield in baseball.

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    Sick OF and then you pair Hamilton with Cano *wipes drool*

  51. rr212 May 22nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    i just found myself drooln’ a bit too. that is pretty formidable. :)

  52. luis May 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    randy l. May 22nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    “Cano is still in his prime and you need a mentor for the new kids as well. I wouldn’t lose him.”

    luis,

    i would hate losing him too, but what if they can send him to a team and get three good young offensive players back?

    the real question is how bad this team is.

    it might actually be this bad.

    the assumption is that the yankees always play poorly until they get going.

    and they do always get going.

    what if this year is the year that they don’t?

    i think we are seeing a turning point in yankee history.

    all us experienced yankee fans have seen a few of these turning points.

    they come on fast when they come.

    maybe it’s not this year.

    we’ll find out in the next 4-6 weeks.

    =============================

    Randy,

    Sorry i didn’t answered before, was a little tangled at work. I do understand your point about Cano. But i do believe that the recovery phase would be relatively short if handled boldly and intelligently. Which means that Cano will be 32-33 by then, i would love to keep him. If i were the FO i would too, because it will help them keep on selling tickets and he could help to mentor the new core. But in a rebuilding phase, if you can’t get a team friendly extension and the trade offer is too good to say no, then i’ll do it.

    About the team in general, i thought we had one more relatively good season, and as such you have to wait a little bit longer as you say. But i have to say that we have enter the start of a downturn. The sooner the FO recognizes that the better and shorter it will be.

    Do I think we have the right people to handle it? No.

  53. rr212 May 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    but there is a always the possible injury/history factor w/ Hamilton….. especially in NY.

  54. LGY May 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    I’d be careful with Hamilton.

    He’s the same age as when Arod hit free agency.

  55. luis May 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Guys,

    Keep dreaming…it costs nothing. For better or for worse, we are in a completely different environment. The days where you could fill the holes with money are gone. We are bound for a rebuilding period.

  56. Niblick May 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    LGY – yeah, but as far as I know, he never did steroids, which is probably why Arod’s body and performance have deteriorated so significantly.

  57. jacksquat May 22nd, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    I hadn’t looked who the opposing pitcher was today, because it hasn’t seemed to matter.

    But if they can’t hit Hochevar… they scored 7 runs in 2.1 innings against him on 5/6. He has a 1.54 whip, 7.02 ERA, 5.40 career ERA…

  58. luis May 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    The only way i see Hamilton in a Yankee uniform are the following:

    1) He doesn’t sign an extension with the Rangers. Unlikely

    2) We clear enough payroll to afford him. Doable but difficult. You need to find a way to get Tex traded for that.

    3) Will he sign a 4 year contract?

  59. Against All Odds May 22nd, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    rr212 May 22nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    i just found myself drooln’ a bit too. that is pretty formidable

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    Yes it is but it won’t happen

  60. Benny Blanco May 22nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    what are the chances hughes gives up a homerun tonight?

  61. luis May 22nd, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Benny Blanco May 22nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    what are the chances hughes gives up a homerun tonight?

    ========================

    Hopefully zero :D

  62. 4 NYY May 22nd, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Benny Blanco May 22nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    what are the chances hughes gives up a homerun tonight?

    ==================================================

    Would be a cold day in …. ( Hey, but he’s due not to ) Can that really happen ?

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