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Teixeira still struggling

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 24, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi moved Mark Teixeira down the seventh on his lineup card for two nights, then moved him up to third Wednesday night.

Teixeira’s glove is still golden, but his bat is still quiet. He made a great diving stop to start a 3-6-3 double play, but he also went 0 for 2 with three walks, one with the bases loaded, in the Yankees’ series-closing, 8-3 win over the Royals. One run scored when he rapped into a 4-6-3 double play. He’s down to .226 with five homers and 21 RBI.

Besides being sick with bronchial inflammation and a resulting cough for most of the season, Teixeira thinks there has been a problem with his approach — not being aggressive enough.

“I’m putting too many balls in play instead of taking that swing to hit a home run and drive the ball,” Teixeira said. “I’ve never been someone who just wants to put the ball in play. In years past, a 1-0 or a 2-0 pitch, it’s maybe a little bit up or a little bit down, you swing and you foul it off or you swing and miss. Now I’m putting that ball in play, which (stinks).

“I go back to Kevin Long and I say, ‘Why couldn’t I just foul that ball off?’ It’s unfortunate. Baseball is such a fine line between having a good at-bat and hitting the ball hard or making an out. … While last year 39 home runs but a low batting average wasn’t good enough, I think I’d rather hit 39 home runs than 20 or 15. I think I’d rather drive in 111 runs than 80. So I’m going to be more aggressive.”

At least he reported a little improvement with his health after not starting in last weekend’s series against the Reds.

“The rest definitely helped,” Teixeira said. “Any time you’re injured, the rest is going to help. Hopefully … the day off will be good, too.”

The Yankees return to the field tomorrow night in Oakland.

 
 

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79 Responses to “Teixeira still struggling”

  1. Hassey May 24th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    those HR swings should really come in handy in the Mausoleum

  2. Niblick May 24th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Oh boy. Now Genius Tex thinks he should be trying for homers more than he has been. As if that were possible. Somebody needs to slap him upside the head and knock some sense into him.

  3. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    A-Rod hits 2 HR’s, so it’s back to climbing TEX’s tree. The pendulum continues to swing around here.

  4. NYYROC May 24th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Let me get this straight… Tex thinks the solution is that he should try to hit home runs? I thought that was the problem. ???

  5. CB May 24th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    repost:

    If the Steinbrenners do decide to sell the yankees – remember they will only be one part of the puzzle.

    In selling the team the Steinbrenners will basically have Bud Selig and MLB at large as functional partners in the sale.

    The commissioners office will have final approval over any sale. And if I had to guess- that will not be a positive for the Yankees.

    The main thing to worry about is how much and what kind of debt is used to purchase the Yankees. This would be a major worry.

    The Yanks generate so much revenue that the team itself and its TV station can almost act as collateral for itself. Money is still so cheap that many eager buyers will look at the Yankees almost as an opportunity to engage in a kind of highly leveraged buyout.

    Given the enormous cost of the asset itself buying the team will involve a significant amount of debt-unless the Commissioner’s office sets certain criteria. And you can’t trust the commissioner’s office to do that. Selig has such a poor track record in this area and cronyism has often been a significant part of how he’s managed transactions.

    This would be a very attractive business approach to buying the yankees: Take on debt to buy the team-and then siphon off revenue from the teams earnings to pay off the debt. If needed “cut the fat” off the team’s operating expenses.

    For several years the priority of the new ownership would then become to win just enough to keep the luxury boxes and seats filled to a certain level – but to make sure the divert enough of the revenue to service the debt. If that debt is large the revenue siphoned could be enormous as well.

    Remember-the commissioners office will be loathe to put a very large personality or a powerful, cash rich owner into the NY Yankees ownership seat. Selig and the other owners will be petrified that this kind of owner at the helm of the Yankees will spend the other owners into the ground.

    Selig or whoever the commissioner is will be very careful as to who he allows to buy the Yankees.

    He will of course want to make sure the Yankees continue to be stable and successful-but he will at the same time be very careful about the sale amplifying the yankees power.

    The commissioner and other owners will want to constrain the Yankees power. And this is a real issue because the team will cost so much. This increases the risk for the team being purchased with a great deal of debt or being purchased by a large group of pooled investors with a complex, diffused governance structure.

  6. Cashman needs to go May 24th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Girardi – “Teixey walked 3 times last night so after seeing that I’m confident that he’ll start hitting again – and thats why I’m permanenetly putting him back in the #3 hole – I think he’s turned it around”

  7. Wave Your Hat May 24th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    If the Yanks are sold, it will be to a cash flush billionaire one way or the other. It may not be Mark Cuban (but I can dream, can’t I) but it will be to someone or some group with extremely deep pockets, and Selig both can’t and won’t prevent that.

  8. The Genius Maker May 24th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Personally, I do NOT believe in throwing a pitch to set-up another. That’s merely wasting a pitch, and with pitch counts being the Holy Grail, over the course of 162, your bullpen gets shot. Either the Chucker has the stuff to put the hitter down or he doesn’t. The general goal should be to get a hitter out in as few pitches as possible, even if you pitch-to-contact. Key situations inna game may call for needing a K or a DP, but in general, just put the hitter down ASAP and stop complicating things by turning The Game into a chess match.
    ******************

    I disagree Donnybrook. I hate waste pitches that are SO far out of the strike zone they don’t accomplish anything, but changing the speed, eye plane and side of the plate are important to setting up a hitter. Setting up a hitter does clearly matter. You can’t always throw ARod inside for example as he would just concentrate on turning on the inside pitch with no concern outside (and this also points out why setting up pitches DOES matter)

  9. The Genius Maker May 24th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Girardi’s quote about Tex is ridiculous. he also should not have been put in the 3rd spot at the expense of Cano who is drilling missiles now

  10. NYYROC May 24th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    That’s it Tex swing harder..just in case you make contact.
    Far be it for me to question MLBers like Tex and Swisher, but when both of them in that past few days have said (paraphrasing) that the NYY are a HR hitting team…their job is to hit HRs, that the solution to season long slumps is to try and hit HRs, it makes me wonder what game they are watching and what are the coversations between them and K.Long like.

    I always heard Murcer and Singleton say the way to break a slump was try to hit the ball up the middle.

  11. CB May 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    “If the Yanks are sold, it will be to a cash flush billionaire one way or the other. It may not be Mark Cuban (but I can dream, can’t I) but it will be to someone or some group with extremely deep pockets, and Selig both can’t and won’t prevent that.”

    Wave,

    One would like to think so – but history says otherwise. See Tom Gillette and Loria. For recent history and the sale of a comparable team look at the approval of the sale of the Cubs to Ricketts. Just think about how tenuous the financing on Rickett’s deal was and his own personal wealth which is leveraged to the hilt.

    Those were not the most financially stable potential owners. They got the teams anyway.

    The Yankees could sell for 4B or so. There are very few deep pockets who can actually front that. And I’d guess the commissioners office isn’t going to be particularly keen on any of those big name people-especially because many of the people who could afford the team at that price don’t even live in the U.S.

    Which makes it much more likely that the team will be purchased on debt and/ or will have a very large group of partial owners.

    The Yankees had a passage of ownership without significant addition of debt. There are huge advantages to that in theory (in practice… still be be determined).

    But the sale of this team would create enormous uncertainty and the commissioners office will be closely involved with the outcome. And Selig’s track record on this is anything but confidence inspiring.

  12. PacoDooley May 24th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Teix needs to quiet his swing down the way Swisher did. He is so jumpy at the plate that I think he isn’t getting into a consistent starting position with his head still and arms in a repeatable position.

    I would love to see him try the steady starting position that Swisher went to and that Granderson now uses so effectively. If that fails, then we can look at other aspects of his swing, but I would like to see K Long start there.

  13. The Genius Maker May 24th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    This is a repeat

    The Genius Maker May 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Randy it was the first pitch to the guy, but the approach was the discussion. Sometimes if you feel the best way to get a guy out is pitching inside is to show him one pitch outside for a ball first. The game within the game is interesting. I usually watch games on DVR and when I do watch with someone I call out loud what I would do, but occasionally, I pause it and ask around what everyone is thinking? We have a discussion about it. I process it quickly, but it is an interesting dialogue and most important, it is a way to watch a game in a totally different light. Cone brings up some interesting perspectives and I like the way flash think too, but we all have ideas that can be different. the one part that Cone brings to me is when he said throwing a curve was sometimes easier on his arm than a fastball…that was very interesting to me as I never thought about that and I am also not sure others feel the same way.

  14. MikeK May 24th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    If the Steinbrenners do sell, I can only hope they wait until after Derek Jeter retires.

  15. The Genius Maker May 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Paco, I agree about tex and made that comment a few weeks ago. because he is moving the bat so much he is not in the same position. Calming the bat mighty help him. Hitting is such a personal thing which is why you have guys like Julio Franco be able to hit like he does and others are spread so far it looks so uncomfortable. there is no magic bullet, but if something has been steadily going the wrong way, one must look to find a cure.

  16. charlestonchew May 24th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    I don’t think the Steinbrenners sell the team so soon after their father’s death. It seems somehow dishonorable. They like the team and they might be businessmen (which I’m not a big fan of, but i suppose all owners are), but they still stand to make significant money off the Yankees if they make the right choices over the next few seasons (avoiding luxury tax penalty for being over 189). Cano must be retained and it would be good to have Granderson, too. It’s hard to know if this can happen. We can throw some of our minor league pitching gold at other teams to fill the rest of the holes. I don’t think Swisher is resigned. I think the rotation looks a lot like this minus Kuroda next season, depending on if Pettitte wants to continue pitching. He certainly looks good out there so far, but you can kind of see how he could give up a few more runs on hanging pitches. I don’t think this is a situation where the Yankees need to be sure every hole is filled before each and every season. If we don’t get players in there and playing, we’ll never know if they can fill the holes or not. Our farm system is about to become extremely important. It’s the key to getting us under 189 and it can be done. I think that’s the biggest problem for the Steinbrenners. They hate this penalty.

  17. Wave Your Hat May 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    CB-

    You could be right. On the other hand, except for limited periods, major league baseball has always been anchored by a strong franchise in New York. At the end of the day, I think that thinking will win out. You can’t dismiss the possibility of a bidding war breaking out and end with a highly leveraged purchase price winning. But, at the price level that the Yanks will command, and with the New York visibility, I tend to think it will be a very sophisticated and safely financed group.

    We’ll see, I still don’t think the current ownership will sell anytime soon.

  18. BD (Boston Dave) May 24th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Steinbrenners – keep the team, can Levine

  19. Jerkface May 24th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Newsday sources have learned that the Steinbrenners are scouting a potential sale of Randy Levine. Early asking prices include,”Half that sandwich you got there, does it have Mayo? Well we can scrape it off.”

  20. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    The success of the Yanks on-the-field, greatly has an impact on All of MLB. Bud is Not worried about a New Yankee owner coming in and flexing the Yankee monetary muscles. The new CBA has taken care of any concern in that area. What Bud Should be concerned about, is some well-heeled Sarah Palin knockoff buying the team and through general incompetence\ignorance running it into the ground.

  21. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Just my guess, but I believe Hal could care less about any possible “dishonor” in selling the team shortly after his father’s death. Hal Never wanted to play an active role in the Yankee front office and was forced into the position he Now occupies. Hank is the antithesis of his brother. I aint getting into whether we gotta John Snow here or not.

  22. tampayank May 24th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    does it bother anyone how Girardi gives all the players 3 year old names ending in Y? Teixy, Gardy, ect

  23. Wave Your Hat May 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    “does it bother anyone how Girardi gives all the players 3 year old names ending in Y? Teixy, Gardy, ect”

    Oh for the days when players got nicknames like “Death to Flying Things”. Girardi would call him “Fergy”.

  24. Warning Track Power May 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    I would like to add a few bucks into the pot and hopefully get more investors
    in order to buy The Yankees.
    Who’s with me???

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    does it bother anyone how Girardi gives all the players 3 year old names ending in Y? Teixy, Gardy, ect
    ///

    Hmm…maybe that’s why the kid was sent packing. “Jesey” or “Montero-y” just doesn’t roll off the tongue smoothly :D .

  26. Against All Odds May 24th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    He called him Monty

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    If Levine says it’s false, it’s true.

  28. CB May 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    “On the other hand, except for limited periods, major league baseball has always been anchored by a strong franchise in New York.”

    Wave,

    I think the more relevant issue is the current commissioner and set of owners. It’s true that NY has been vital to the growth of baseball. At the same time the Dodgers and Giants left.

    And more to the point-how about the current day Mets? How has the commissioner’s office’s behavior been with regard to them? Has it been in the interest of supporting strong franchises in NY for the good of the game?

    The Mets are a perfect example again of the cronyism in baseball. They have functionally been non-viable owners for a few years now who survived due to a bailout from baseball itself. This in turn has meant that one of the major franchises in the sport retains the owners that sunk it into the ground but at the cost of any real investment in the teams ability to stay competitive.

    That’s just ridiculous. But that’s the choice that Selig made. He was willing to float an incompetent ownership group knowing that they didn’t have the capital to even make marginal investments in the team to keep it competitive.

    Why did Selig do this? Much of it was simply due to his friendship with the Wilpons. Read any of Howard Megdal’s reporting on these issues- it’s eye-opening.

    So we’re living through a period right now where Selig has been more than ok with a NY franchise not being competitive in the least. In fact he’s actively created artificial financial conditions required to do so.

    I see little evidence that he would act with more propriety or competence in the case of a sale of the Yankees. Just look at what a mess he signed off on with the Cubs & what he’s done with the Mets. The Cubs had a much better offer from a much more financially sound owner and the commissioners office prevented it from going through. Just think about that. Whose best interest does the commissioner have at heart? Certainly not the Cubs-one of the most storied franchises in the game, playing in one of the most critical markets in the industry.

    I do agree that a sale is less likely than not. But if a sale goes through don’t feel much certainty that it will be conducted in ways which won’t damage the franchise in some way. It’s an unknown of course. But this commissioners track record on sales and financial issues has been far from reassuring.

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    ‘morning Odds.

    Who was that quote in reference to, about hating the players and media? Was it a joke or was there some story?

  30. Wave Your Hat May 24th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    CB-

    I don’t think the Mets example is particularly relevant. Reports indicate that Selig has bent over backwards trying to help the Wilpons, and there is already a strong franchise in New York today. And when the Giants and Dodgers left, there remained an enormously strong franchise in New York.

    Even assuming Selig wants to cripple the Yanks (and I don’t really buy into that theory), Selig doesn’t need to be nefarious anyway. Natural cycles and the new CBA are inexorably reeling the Yanks back to the pack, and the pack is doing a pretty good job of catching up all on its own.

  31. Shame Spencer May 24th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Afternoon all…. Good stuff CB, thanks for the insight. Wish you’d stop by more!

    The story floating about selling the team was surprising to me this morning… but since I’m still flying high after an incredible hockey game last night I can’t spare it much thought ;)

  32. UnKnown May 24th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    “I’m putting too many balls in play instead of taking that swing to hit a home run and drive the ball,” Teixeira said.
    ——-
    Yeah that’s the ticket. (face with the rolling eyes here)
    ———–
    Cashman needs to go May 24th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    Girardi – “Teixey walked 3 times last night so after seeing that I’m confident that he’ll start hitting again – and thats why I’m permanenetly putting him back in the #3 hole – I think he’s turned it around”
    ——–

    He didn’t really say this right. Please tell me this is a made up quote.

  33. jacksquat May 24th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    I don’t believe Cuban could not afford the Yankees. Maybe he couldn’t afford the entire team by himself, but it’s pretty likely he could with partners. Jeter said he’d like to own a team, but he also said he wants to be the one that calls the shots. He can’t afford a big enough stake in the Yankees to be the ultimate shot caller. He said himself that he couldn’t afford the Yankees. But maybe he would be satisified being a partner. Cuban/Jeter/Arod/etc?

  34. Against All Odds May 24th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Afternoon JAP it was in the Madden article but now it’s not

  35. CB May 24th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Wave,

    In no way am I saying Selig is going to devise some nefarious plan to cripple the yankees.

    All I’m saying is that Selig has a track record for selecting financially weak ownership groups that taken on heavy debt loads to purchase the team. On several occasions those specific owners have been chose despite the fact that other owners either offered more money or where more financially stable or even both.

    Given the astronomical cost of the Yankees it seems to me a real risk. Because if Selig again follows his own past precedents and financially stronger owners are rejected for weaker, more diffuse, debt heavy ones it could have a deleterious impact on the Yankees.

    As a concrete example, if Mark Cuban has the best offer and is the most financially sound in all likelihood he’ll again be rejected from ownership.

    The track record of baseball on these sales is simply not good. And that’s a real issue, one that’s amplified here given the cost of the franchise & YES.

    That’s just my take on it and my impression. I don’t have much confidence in Selig at all on these issues. The Dodgers (McCourt), Marlins, Rangers, Cubs (and I also count the Mets as a related case but I’ll set that aside). That’s teams in the major markets of LA, Miami, Dallas and Chicago that he’s brokered sales of while rejecting other ownership groups that have gone very badly. All involved owners getting teams they didn’t have the true economic ability to own.

    That’s a terrible track record on sales in vital markets for the industry. There’s a huge degree of opacity and cronyism with these sales that he controls. I have little confidence a sale of the Yankees would be substantively different. I see little evidence for that.

    Have to run. Good chatting with you. Take care.

  36. UnKnown May 24th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    I would love the passion Cuban would bring to the team, but having him sitting in the dugout for all the games would probably get old.

  37. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Against All Odds May 24th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    Afternoon JAP it was in the Madden article but now it’s not
    ///

    Huh. That’s weird. Who was it suppposed to refer to? Thanks.

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    Jeter/Alex/Posada should be the new headline owners :D .

    That’s a more authentic Yankee family than “the family.”

  39. UnKnown May 24th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Is anybody still on the Shin Soo Choo train still?

  40. tucker May 24th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    The success of MLB depends on a fiscally sound Yankees. Think of all the NL teams cosmogony to get the Yanks on he interleague schedule to supplement their revenue.

    I don’t see MLB working to bring in a new ownership group that is not fiscally strong. It doesn’t make sense for baseball.

    Does anybody know what percentage of the team hat the Steinbrenner family controls? I wonder if some limited partners are seeking to sell their stake in light of the lucrative Dodgers deal. Such a scenario would be consistent with Hal’s denial this morning.

  41. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    You wanna NY guy to partner up with Cuban, get ahold of DeNiro. Billy Crystal also oughtta have plenty of Jack.

  42. Warning Track Power May 24th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Tex had a good night.
    He walked a lot and made fine plays at 1st base to save hits/runs.

    I think he might be on the verge of getting hot, hitting line drives and driving in runs.

  43. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Not much said around here concerning the steady improvement outta Hughes. I woulda penned him, but he is currently a solid 3 Slotter and certainly out-perfoming Nova.

  44. blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    The best thing would be for the Steinbrenners to keep the team and run it the way the Yankees should be ran…..but I’m not sure I trust Hal to do that…..

    Tex should be trying to hit homers left handed…..that’s about all he can do from that side without drastic swing changes….and unless hes going to commit to doing that then his best shot at being productive vs RHP is to try and walk and hit lots of homers IMO

  45. blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    Not much said around here concerning the steady improvement outta Hughes. I woulda penned him, but he is currently a solid 3 Slotter and certainly out-perfoming Nova.”

    Its pretty encouraging….it all started when he reduced the use of his cutter and just started attacking hitters…..have to give the Yanks credit for staying the course with him if he finally starts to reach his potential…..the bad news of course is if that happens he may not fit in their budget much longer and that would ge unfortunate after all the time and effort they have put in him

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    Not much said around here concerning the steady improvement outta Hughes.
    ///

    It’s been a common topic here.

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Yeah, Tex tries to go the other way and he’ll shatter into a million pieces. His best bet is to try and hit over the shift LH.

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    blake, I think Cashman will fight try to hold onto Hughes.

  49. Against All Odds May 24th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Against All Odds May 24th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    Afternoon JAP it was in the Madden article but now it’s not
    ///

    Huh. That’s weird. Who was it suppposed to refer to? Thanks.

    ——————————

    It was referenced to Hal. It was at the end of the article but since the story broke it has been updated 2-3 times.

  50. blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    The fact of the matter is Hal Steinbrenner is very passionate,” Levine said this afternoon, as he pointed out the team’s success during Steinbrenner’s tenure”

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....witterfeed

    Talk is cheap…..prove it

  51. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Thanks, Odds. No attribution I would guess, but if this were so (that he felt this way), it would not surprise me.

  52. Against All Odds May 24th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    It wouldn’t surprise me either.

  53. Against All Odds May 24th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Exactly prove it and get The Natural :D

  54. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Hal Steinbrenner “passionate”. HAHAHAHAHAHA

  55. blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    blake, I think Cashman will fight try to hold onto Hughes.”

    What if he will cost 12-15 million per to re-sign? Should they re-sign him for that money if their younger and cheaper pitchers are progressing and the offense is still declining….and they have a strict 189 million dollar budget for 2014 and 2015?

  56. Bronx Jeers May 24th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    There’s a lot more at stake connected to the Yankees financial well-being than the Yankees themselves. I agree Selig’s cronyism, or whatever drives his head-scratching change of ownership decisions, could be a real problem if there’s ever a sale. But no one riding the MLB revenue stream is gonna benefit from a crappy Yankee team.

  57. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    I would pass on Hamilton. Gonna take far too long a contract at his age to get involved. I do regard him as the best player on both sides of the ball since Griffey Jr, but I would still look elsewhere.

  58. Shame Spencer May 24th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    “Talk is cheap…..prove it”

    And still it barely fits in the budget..

  59. m May 24th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    DeNiro would kick Cuban’s ass in the first owners’ meeting. Wouldn’t be a good way to start off a partnership.

  60. Shame Spencer May 24th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    blake, I think Cashman will fight try to hold onto Hughes.”

    What if he will cost 12-15 million per to re-sign? Should they re-sign him for that money if their younger and cheaper pitchers are progressing and the offense is still declining….and they have a strict 189 million dollar budget for 2014 and 2015?
    ————–

    They could always trade him for another pitcher. :)

  61. blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Any chance Mark Zuckerberg is a big Yankee fan?

  62. blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Nobody is gonna give Hamilton more than 5 years because of his past and if somebody does then you let them have him…..but for 4 years or do at a high AAV he’s a difference maker and would fit perfectly hitting either in front of or behind Cano….perfect bridge to the Charleston group of hitters if he could stay healthy…..he would destroy that short porch

  63. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    ke, I think Cashman will fight try to hold onto Hughes.”

    What if he will cost 12-15 million per to re-sign? Should they re-sign him for that money if their younger and cheaper pitchers are progressing and the offense is still declining….and they have a strict 189 million dollar budget for 2014 and 2015?
    ///

    Well, he’ll still be cheaper than Cole Hamels, or what they would have had to play Felix. I just think, if the youngsters are on a methodical pace, Cashman may view Hughes as his lone example of having gotten a high profile pitching prospect right.

  64. blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    “Well, he’ll still be cheaper than Cole Hamels, or what they would have had to play Felix.”

    True…But he has to prove he’s as good as those guys or close before that matters IMO. I hope he does and they can keep him…..that would solve a lot of problems

  65. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 24th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    The Steinbrenners and company seem doth to protest too much.

  66. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 24th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
    Any chance Mark Zuckerberg is a big Yankee fan?

    *****************

    I worry that he will get Morgan Stanley and the rest of the Wall Street banks involved and somehow the fans will end up losing money from their accounts somehow. At least now, we are just losing emotionally by watching our beloved team.

  67. Against All Odds May 24th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    blake May 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Any chance Mark Zuckerberg is a big Yankee fan?

    ————————

    Hmm born in White Plains but went to school at Harvard.

  68. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 24th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    MarcCarig GM Brian Cashman believes the Steinbrenners will own the Yankees for generations. Said Cashman: “It’s part of their DNA.”

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    Well now we know they are selling. I kid – kind of.

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    As good as Felix is a tough sell, and in the case of Hamels, he’s not a LHP. But if Hughes holds the course, he can fulfill his promise, afterall. Cashman would consider that also some kind of moral victory, I bet.

  70. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    I disagree on the 5yr max for Hamilton. There are Always at least a couple owners wanting to win Immediately and Not worried about the future. The new owners in LA immediately spring to mind.

  71. There Will Never Be Another Mo May 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    As good as Felix is a tough sell, and in the case of Hamels, he’s not a LHP. But if Hughes holds the course, he can fulfill his promise, afterall. Cashman would consider that also some kind of moral victory, I bet.

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    Very true. However, I have to say, I have been following the kid since June 2004, so I fear I am just as emotionally invested. To think that he was drafted when Lin Garret was still running some of the draft. Feels like ages ago.

  72. Madrugador May 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Baseball is a business and the business model has changed. The day of the high priced free agents has passed- ask the Angles if signing Pujols was a great idea. The day of developing your own talent and signing them to long term deals before they become high priced is here. Teams like the Rays and the Orioles have a definite jump on the Yankees so I expect we are in for a couple of tough years of a transition.

  73. Bronx Jeers May 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Zuckerberg grew up in Westchester no?

    If there’s an actor out there that I’d like to see own the Yanks it’s Denzel.

  74. DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    The last thing Cashman wants is new Yankee owners. He be 86′d Immediately.

  75. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    Mo, seems like ages ago that I first laid eyes on him in Trenton. He had giddy late life and surgical command. The hitters had no chance. What can you do, he’s certainly had his share of health problems.

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Bronx – No actors….please :roll:

  77. Shame Spencer May 24th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Bronx Jeers May 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Zuckerberg grew up in Westchester no?

    If there’s an actor out there that I’d like to see own the Yanks it’s Denzel.

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    No love for Billy Crystal?!

    Actually, can we get the guy who played George Steinbrenner on Seinfeld to run the team?

  78. Warning Track Power May 24th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    DONNYBROOK May 24th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    I would pass on Hamilton. Gonna take far too long a contract at his age to get involved. I do regard him as the best player on both sides of the ball since Griffey Jr, but I would still look elsewhere.
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    I agree. Let some other team take the risk on him.
    NYC might not be the best surroundings for his “sober life”.
    Risk too high. Money to rich.
    NEXT!!

  79. DominicanYank May 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Maybe we’ll see Hal and Hank on the TV show “Shark Tank” trying to sell the franchise off…


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