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The next D-Rob? Montgomery has the Yankees attention

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 25, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

After blowing a one-run lead in the seventh inning on Sunday, the Tampa Yankees put a tied game in the hands of 21-year-old reliever Mark Montgomery. He faced three batters in the eighth inning, three more in the ninth, and struck out all six of them. The Yankees walked off with a win a half inning later.

“I haven’t seen anybody say anything about this guy,” Yankees vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman said. “This guy is worth paying attention to.”

The Yankees took a bunch of good young relievers in last year’s draft — Newman also mentions Branden Pinder and Philip Wetherell as legitimate standouts — but it’s clear that Montgomery has the Yankees attention, and it’s probably time that he grabs your attention as well.

Signed out of Longwood University in Virginia, Montgomery has some in the Yankees organization wondering if he’s the next Dave Robertson. Like Robertson, he’s racking up massive strikeout totals in the minors — 86 through 50.1 professional innings so far — and he’s poised to move quickly like Robertson.

The outpitch, though, isn’t a Robertson curveball, it’s a hard-breaking slider that has confused several scouts. Newman said he’s seen some reports that call it a split, and some that suggest he throws both a slider and a split.

“It’s a slider that’s hard and very straight down at like a 45-degree angle break,” Newman said. “… This guy’s legit. The numbers tell you he’s legitimate, but the stuff is more than pretty good.”

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74 Responses to “The next D-Rob? Montgomery has the Yankees attention”

  1. Hassey May 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    say it ain’t so, Chad and Chad

    http://www.lohud.com/article/2.....dyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

  2. Rich in NJ May 25th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    He’s presumed innocent but isn’t Curtis a guy who has worn religion on his sleeve?

  3. jacksquat May 25th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Talking about Melky as a potential free agent acquisition is fine, it is relevant.

    Saying the Yankees made a mistake trading him and that you knew he would be good is baloney. Four straight years of nearly full time play, below average in every one of them. He may have shown flashes of potentially becoming a good player (which I even noted myself back then), but he had four years. Melky had much more time than most. The Yankees aren’t a team that can nor should wait forever for a player to improve. So then after four years Melky started becoming more expensive and he had not really improved, so he was gone. The Yankees can’t hold onto a bunch of maybes for six years.

  4. Hassey May 25th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    is THAt what that was? I always thought it was a boy scout patch

  5. Ghost of Steinbrenner May 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Get this kid lengthened out and get him in the major league rotation now! Nothing to lose at this point and we may catch lightning!

  6. Rich in NJ May 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    The key issue on Melky is that Alex recommended him because he saw his renewed commitment and the Yankees ignored it. So you don’t have to had foreseen what he is doing now.

  7. austinmac May 25th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    YF,

    Congrats on your iphone mlb at bat. I knew you would love it as you can take the game with you.

  8. Ghost of Steinbrenner May 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    As far as Cad Cutis I’d like to see these “teen” girls. I’ve seen 12 year vixens who look more like 20 year olds. That does not make anything he did appropiate or right but if these girls liked to have their pig tails pulled by Chad if any thing was done was just a moment of slippage by him. Chad was alway’s a good guy!

  9. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    How a girl dresses or looks does not determine how she may have her body treated by strangers, and changing that kind of attitude will be the first step in eradicating the culture of rape tolerance and female shaming/blaming.

  10. Hassey May 25th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Jerkface – those sound like gansta rap lyrics

  11. DONNYBROOK May 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Curtis is NOT being accused of rape. Let’s get that straight right outta the blocks.

  12. Rich in NJ May 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Yup, and it’s not like Curtis is 18 or 19 (although that would rightly still be illegal). He’s freakin’ 40 something.

  13. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Curtis is NOT being accused of rape. Let’s get that straight right outta the blocks.

    No one said he was accused of rape.

  14. Howe Farr May 25th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Well said Jerkface!

  15. Howe Farr May 25th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Somewhere Jim Grey is happy

  16. Hassey May 25th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Howe Farr – any relation to Jamie? How has he been?

  17. Pat M. May 25th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Fast moving prospect

  18. DONNYBROOK May 25th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    You brought up “culture of rape tolerance”. Where else is there to go? OVERRULED

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock May 25th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Ghost of Steinbrenner May 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    As far as Cad Cutis I’d like to see these “teen” girls. I’ve seen 12 year vixens who look more like 20 year olds. That does not make anything he did appropiate or right but if these girls liked to have their pig tails pulled by Chad if any thing was done was just a moment of slippage by him. Chad was alway’s a good guy!
    ///

    You’re certifiable. They are children, he is the adult. GET IT?

    Jerkface, amen.

    Happy Memorial Day Weekend, folks.

  20. yankeefeminista May 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    GB, answered in the other thread. Heading to a meeting, back later. Have a good day!

  21. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    You brought up “culture of rape tolerance”. Where else is there to go? OVERRULED

    Rape culture and its oily purveyance through our modern society is more than about rape. It is the idea that women can be treated differently depending on how they choose to express themselves either in attitude or dress (“She was asking for it! She looked older! She was wearing a skirt above the ankle!”).

    If you do not understand the difference between talking about the idea of rape culture and actually accusing somebody of the crime of rape, then do not enter the discussion, because yer gonna look like a dunce.

  22. DONNYBROOK May 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    No one is guilty simply due to their age. “The defense wishes to issue a challenge regarding this juror.

  23. Rich in NJ May 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    “You’re certifiable.”

    And a troll, which is why I ignored him, but you and Jerkface are right, it’s offensively stupid no matter what his motivation is.

  24. Shame Spencer May 25th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Amen, Staticus.

    Reminds me of when the Jets players were cat-calling some reporter… the women in my office were insistent that she deserved what she got for dressing ‘so provocatively.’ I think she was wearing a pair of jeans and a white blouse!! LMAO!

  25. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    By way of fer instance, no one is accusing Curtis of rape, but he apparently was perving on some young girls inappropriately. Rape culture might say, “They were flirting with him! They dressed older! They laughed at his crummy jokes!” These kind of protestations do not excuse Curtis of any actions he undertook if they were not consensual.

  26. GreenBeret7 May 25th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Who the hell calls 12 year old girls vixens? What’s next for you? 6 year old strumpets?

  27. yankeefeminista May 25th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Thanks, YT!

  28. DONNYBROOK May 25th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    As soon as you use the word rape, you have tarred and feathered the man. This is exactly the way a jury is tainted.

  29. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    As soon as you use the word rape, you have tarred and feathered the man. This is exactly the way a jury is tainted.

    Go forth and be ignorant. I am not a judge, nor am I on any jury, but I am just talking about what a good and decent society should act like.

  30. DONNYBROOK May 25th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    I undertstand that. But if your gonna discuss the Curtis accusations, you should confine them to what he is actually being accused of. NO WHERE is he accused of rape.

  31. Rich in NJ May 25th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    A jury being tainted because of idle discussion on a Yankee blog? Quick, sequester this thread!

  32. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    And actually, perhaps tarring and feathering rapists and people who continue to enable rape culture might make a difference :twisted:

  33. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    I undertstand that. But if your gonna discuss the Curtis accusations, you should confine them to what he is actually being accused of. NO WHERE is he accused of rape.

    Look, you’re not understanding, its ok. Here is a book you can read:

    http://www.amazon.com/Transfor.....038;sr=8-1

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock May 25th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    If you do not understand the difference between talking about the idea of rape culture and actually accusing somebody of the crime of rape, then do not enter the discussion, because yer gonna look like a dunce.
    ////

    The distinction you make is easily understood, nor did your initial observation indicate any confusion on your part between the two things. But, y’know, hey.

    Rich….if I SMH any more, it’s going to fall off. Have a great 3-day weekend.

  35. Rich in NJ May 25th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    You too, JAP.

  36. Purenyyankee May 25th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Poor kid. He will rot in the minors because we are the only team in baseball that doesn’t give our kids a shot. Cash-Man would rather run a bum like Garcia out there instead of a worthy guy in AAA or AA.

  37. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Amen, Staticus.

    Reminds me of when the Jets players were cat-calling some reporter… the women in my office were insistent that she deserved what she got for dressing ‘so provocatively.’ I think she was wearing a pair of jeans and a white blouse!! LMAO!

    Centaur’s favor gender equality! It is a shame when even women engage in acts which harm themselves, without knowing it even, but sexism in american (and the world really) is so pervasive that I am not surprised it happens.

  38. GreenBeret7 May 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Anyway, back to the subject of this board, which is Mark Montgomery. There are clips of him on Youtube if you haven’t seen him. That slider from the right side breaks like Guidry, just a couple of miles slower. control is steadily improving. If you can’t remember Guidry, think about the sharp break on Burnett’s knuckle curve at 92+ MPH to go with his fastball and a fair change-up that he’s trying to improve on. He’s only been pitching steadily for a littless than two years. He was a shortstop in high school and college.

  39. luis May 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Hello everyone,

    JS,

    You make a good case on Melky. But if you took that approach to every prospect or young player, then Hughes shouldn´t be here either. Melky showed very good skills. Granted, he had two sub-par seasons and then broke out. What i am trying to say is that i don´t necessarily agree with the not waiting for six years for a bunch of maybes. What i would agree is that you evaluate which of those “maybes” have the better chance to break out and become MLB players and you keep them and develop them.

  40. luis May 25th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    JAP,

    Have a great weekend primo!!

  41. Rich in NJ May 25th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Meanwhile, off that Nova article on ESPN.com, it will be interesting to see how they utilize his changeup given that it was reported that they believe the new grip has led to the HR issues this season.

  42. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Meanwhile, off that Nova article on ESPN.com, it will be interesting to see how they utilize his changeup given that it was reported that they believe the new grip has led to the HR issues this season.

    Its good they seem to know 1 of the causes. Gives him something to work on. That and leaving his fastball up in the zone. Needs to get command of the lower half back, his GB rate is down and he is getting hit hard.

  43. luis May 25th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Rich in NJ May 25th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    Meanwhile, off that Nova article on ESPN.com, it will be interesting to see how they utilize his changeup given that it was reported that they believe the new grip has led to the HR issues this season.

    =========================

    Rich,

    If i am not mistaken, most homers have come from the FB and some from the CU and one from the slider. He has included the CU in his repertoire in this season, so i would give some time before we call the pitch a flop. I have seen some very good ones and some not so good, it´s part of the learning process. He needs to make as much reps as possible with the pitch. If he adds that pitch to his already good repertoire, them look out.

  44. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    I think they are just going to have to be more careful with it. Hughes, at the beginning of the season, left his change up high and away almost every time he threw it, but now he can get it down in the zone with reasonable efficiency.

    Nova just has to pick his spots better when using it so it doesn’t get crushed.

  45. luis May 25th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Nova just has to pick his spots better when using it so it doesn’t get crushed.

    ==================

    This is very sound advice. You make a good point about him leaving the FB up in the zone, even though i would add that they either happened when he was tiring or were wheather related.

  46. luis May 25th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    *weather related* sorry

  47. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    You make a good point about him leaving the FB up in the zone, even though i would add that they either happened when he was tiring or were wheather related.

    But I thought pitching tired is supposed to add more sink? :twisted: His OPS against is way too high for him to have always been affected by the weather or stamina. Command has been an issue with him for his entire career.

  48. luis May 25th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    JF,

    True in theory about the sink, meaning that it´s not always the case. Right on on his command issues, but he has had 3 bad starts. In two of those there were very wet conditions, which in turn hurt his grip on the ball, thus affecting his command. In his last start, i would say that he allowed the homer on a slider, which i thought was the wrong call on those circunstances.

  49. Jerkface May 25th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....ny-homers/

    Here is good analysis on Nova, including charts showing how badly he is missing on some of these pitches (that go a loong way to explain the bombs being hit off him). Just needs to work on his command.

  50. luis May 25th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Got to go, later guys. Would love to continue the discussion JF.

  51. luis May 25th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    JF, thanks for the link, i will read it tonight.

  52. hardwired7 May 25th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    A filthy slider can make a guy tons of money in mlb – just ask David Cone.

    He won’t get Cone money as a reliever, but hopefully he has similar putaway success.

    Nice to see a write-up on Monty. Kudos, Chad.

  53. TheBigOut May 25th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    My posting is not working now

  54. TheBigOut May 25th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    From older thread:

    tampayank says:
    May 24, 2012 at 12:00 pm
    does it bother anyone how Girardi gives all the players 3 year old names ending in Y? Teixy, Gardy, ect

    —–

    So annoying and his take on Tex with the 3 hole is awful. Tex cried about it and Girardi being the wuss he is aquiesced and put him in 3 holes saying hes looking great enough to be “permanently” hitting 3rd.. Is this guy out of his head? Granted it was goid to see Tex walk but hearing his “i nerd to try and hit more Hr” just goes to show these guys are completey lost! Wonder what Steiny or Cashy our Jetey and Arody have to say about it. Sickening !

    The more the teams underperforms the more Girardi looks like a clown. Wonder what it will take before they finally toss this disease!

  55. TheBigOut May 25th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Is there anyway to put the manager on the DL .. ? Something is not clicking right with this guy, i think he needs a rest!

    Also,

    Every name ending in ” y ” makes me wanna vomit .. He thinks its tee ball, next he might suggest we sign girls to play for us. Joey Girardiy is sn idioty!

  56. TheBigOut May 25th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Has anyone been to miami to the new marlins stadium, man talk about gorgeous! Pro player was terrible .. But this stadium is just amazing. I like it better then citi and yankee stadiums. You must goto see it if in miami.

  57. Against All Odds May 25th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Any new news on Banuelos

  58. TheBigOut May 25th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Bummer adam jones coulda been Swishery replacement. Not that i really thought about it a lot but that one more off the board.

  59. Against All Odds May 25th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    TheBigOut May 25th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Bummer adam jones coulda been Swishery replacement. Not that i really thought about it a lot but that one more off the board.

    ——————————————

    Yea it’s a bummer but it was probably not going to happen anyway. They will probably go cheap in the outfield smh. Maybe a platoon or something.

  60. yankeefeminista May 25th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Odds, you mean beyond Manny has a tired arm and there is no structural damage?

  61. yankeefeminista May 25th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Josh Norris ?jnorris427
    Damon Sublett to Thunder. Shane Brown DLed.

  62. Against All Odds May 25th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    yankeefeminista May 25th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Odds, you mean beyond Manny has a tired arm and there is no structural damage?

    ———————————

    Yes anything beyond that. Is he on the DL for 7 days, 15 or is it unknown?

  63. GreenBeret7 May 25th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Unless a minor league player is on the 40 man roster, they’re almost always a 7 day DL.

  64. yankeefeminista May 25th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Odds, in milb they call it the 7 day DL, but that doesn’t mean much. 7 could end up being two or three weeks.

  65. yankeefeminista May 25th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Here was the Nardi quote on Manny from the link that GB posted early as per Norris:

    “We’ll give him seven days and then go from there, seven days of no throwing. Seven days of charting, running — I’m not sure he’ll do any weightlifting, because you’ve got to use your arm to do that — that’s it.”

  66. Against All Odds May 25th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Thanks YF and GB

  67. DONNYBROOK May 25th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Real chicanery used by the R\Sox to get Dice K extended on his rehab. He supposedly took an injection in the neck, but now the R\Sox can rehab him again or promote him at their whim. The DL issa joke in MLB.

  68. Tar May 25th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Another good article on Nova, thanks jerk. I find the part about possibly tipping his CU and the Orioles picking up on it interesting. I still say Phil is tipping his FB from the stretch, and the Angels for one have picked up on it.

    I wonder how much time and energy teams put into recognizing and preventing tipping?

  69. Dionysius Thelxinoe May 25th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Tar says:
    May 25, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    I wonder how much time and energy teams put into recognizing and preventing tipping?

    ——–

    Tar -

    Entirely possible, but I would REALLY prefer to believe that any decent PC would spot it right away.

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