Postgame notes: “I am who I am”
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 26, 2012 
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Mark Teixeira wouldn’t really go into detail, but then again, maybe it was worrying about the details that got him into trouble in the first place. What he said this afternoon about his brutal start to the season was that “enough people tell you to try to do things, and you do them.” He said he tried to change his approach, tried to become something he’s not, and it was only after sitting out those three games last weekend that he decided to just be himself.
The results have been instant.
“Some guys can sort of shorten their swing up and slap it the other way, use their speed,” Teixeira said. “It’s obviously not me. I’ve been a guy that’s always hit a lot of fly balls, a lot of long fly balls, home runs. I’ve tried to change a few times and it hasn’t worked. … You can try to tinker with things, but I am who I am. I wouldn’t know how to explain what kind of hitter I am, I just go up there, see the ball and try to hit it really hard.”
Who tried to make him change that approach?
“It doesn’t matter,” Teixeira said. “Kevin (Long) and I, we love working together, and he’s always had 100 percent faith in me. We always talk about just being positive. He’s always told me, ‘Whatever you want me to do, we’ll try it. We’ll work on it.’ But after anything that we try, any new drill that we do, he’s always like, ‘Be who you are. Take your A swing.’ That’s what I need to start doing again.”
In other words: Remember all of that spring training talk about going the other way, beating the shift, and maybe even dropping a few bunts? Forget about that. It’s not what made Teixeira one of the game’s best all-around hitters three years ago, and he’s decided it’s not going to make him a better hitter today. If his batting average suffers, he’s OK with it. Joe Girardi said the same thing this morning.
With that new approach — same as his old approach — Teixeira had four hits, two home runs and five RBI this afternoon. Since sitting out those three games and moving back into the lineup on Monday, Teixeira has homered three times, doubled twice collected eight hits and driven in eight runs.
“I told you guys a couple of days ago what I was going to do, and I’ve been doing it,” Teixeira said. “I’m glad I’m seeing some results, because (if not) then you’d probably be asking me, what’s my next plan? Just being real aggressive with my swings. Trying to let it go, which I’ve done my whole career.”
• Pitching just a few miles from where he grew up, CC Sabathia paid for 200 tickets to today’s game. His cheering section was in right field, and they watched him settle in after allowing two runs and seven base runners in the first three innings. “Just trying to make sure I stayed behind the ball,” Sabathia said. “Command got a little off and fastball command wasn’t there, so I was just trying to make some pitches and stay behind the ball. I was able to get it back later in the game.”
• Larry Rothschild helped Sabathia figure out his mechanical flaw, but Chris Stewart noticed it too. “It’s just something that Larry says, (and) Stew said something,” Sabathia said. “Just making sure I was on top of the ball and not cutting the ball. Early in the game, everything was cutting back over the plate and I gave up some hits.”
• In his last four innings, Sabathia gave up two hits and didn’t allow a runner past first base.
• Sabathia is 3-2 with a 2.75 ERA in five starts this month. He was 3-0 but had a 4.58 ERA in five starts last month.
• Teixeira isn’t the only middle-of-the-order hitter who’s been hot lately. Robinson Cano has homered in back-to-back games and has three homers in his past four games. He’s hitting .352 with six home runs in his past 23 games. “You don’t want just a few guys,” Cano said. “You want the whole team to get going.”
• Derek Jeter was one of five Yankees with at least two hits in the game. He moved into a tie with George Brett for 14th on baseball’s all-time hits list. Jeter has 3,154 hits, and next on the list is Cal Ripken Jr.
• Pretty good defensive day for Jeter as well. “CC was getting ground balls,” Girardi said. “That was the important thing. He wasn’t giving up balls in the gap or long fly balls. He was giving up ground balls, and Jeet was able to get to some of them.”
• The Yankees were able to beat their old teammate Bartolo Colon, who gave up six runs on nine hits through six innings. “We all know he throws a lot of fastballs,” Cano said. “So you want to be able to not miss a pitch when he throws it over the plate.”
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Mark Teixiera is beginning to sound eerily similar to AJ Burnett.
Let the CU and CB diet begin!!…His average is going to dip to unheard territory.
Mark Teixiera is beginning to sound eerily similar to AJ Burnett.
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I was going to say Popeye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ata_player
Teixeira: “I’d love to hit for a higher average, of course, but trying to hit for a higher average takes away from the kind of hitter I am. If you ask anybody, would you rather take the higher average or 30 and 100, you’d take 30 and 100 every time. It takes three singles to get a run in. It takes one home run. We have to score runs. No one cares what our average is. Everyone cares how many runs we score, how many games we win.”
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I would agree with this quote if he were actually getting on base, but his OBP right now is .308. You score runs and beat pitchers by sustaining rallies, which means not making outs. And he was able to hit for average with power in the past, or atleast get on base and hit for power in 2010.
He is bringing the bar of his own performance lower and lower.
sorry, that robin williams crap’s gotta go
the real popeye:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHBt9mHq-5c
Maybe Tex has been juicing spinach.
Sorry Tex, i’ll take the 280/20/95 with 380 OBP and 800 OPS over the 220/30/100 with 300 OBP and 700 OPS eight days a week.
Trenton pitching makes Jose Gil’s 2nd inning solo homer stand up, 1-0.
http://www.milb.com/gameday/in…..x_ricaax_1
“He is bringing the bar of his own performance lower and lower”
He needs to stick with what he CAN do…..and without drastic swing changes hitting he ball the other way isnt one of those things….I think we may just have to accept what he is as a left handed hitter…..he hits homers and hopefully he will learn to walk a lot…also hopefully he will start hitting right handed like he has the last two years.
I wish he could become a more balanced hitter vs RHP…..but if he cant then he doesnt need to make it worse by going away from his strength….JMO….I think the “using the whole field” thing was worth a try…..but he cant do it.
Nice win today….love it when the middle hits.
Mark Teixiera is beginning to sound eerily similar to AJ Burnett.
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LGY, take that back, please, take that back.
Post-game remarks are one thing, but actions on the field are what matters most.
Teixeira from the left side looks encouraging, at least the last couple of games. A little less uppercut and more level path to the ball. Even on the homers he connected. Keep it going Mark.
I disagree with Tex’s reasoning…..Id rather have the more well rounded hitter that can hit for average than the 30/100 all or nothing guy…..but it doesnt matter because against RHP I dont think Tex can be that first guy anymore…..so if he can be the second guy then there is at least value in that……the Yanks just need to realize that when constructing the rest of the roster.
luis May 26th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Sorry Tex, i’ll take the 280/20/95 with 380 OBP and 800 OPS over the 220/30/100 with 300 OBP and 700 OPS eight days a week.
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Well, it is .248/28/99 with 308 OBP and .762 OPS right now for his projection, and this all just changed in the past three games. As with all things, it is a work in progress. Regular season Tex is not the problem for me. Now postseason Tex, that is a different thing.
RMS May 26th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Mark Teixiera is beginning to sound eerily similar to AJ Burnett.
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LGY, take that back, please, take that back.
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Maybe we get to AJ his contract too, that wouldn’t be that bad.
Teixeira from the left side looks encouraging, at least the last couple of games. A little less uppercut and more level path to the ball. Even on the homers he connected. Keep it going Mark.
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Agree.
If Tex can be Carlos Pena vs RHP and a .900 OPS hitter vs LHP with a gold glove at 1B then thats not so bad…..its not worth 23 million of course…..but its not that bad.
Nilsson,
If they start to feed him off speed pitches low in the outside corner, that’s all we are going to get from him, encouragement for his teammates to cover his lack of production.
blake May 26th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
If Tex can be Carlos Pena vs RHP and a .900 OPS hitter vs LHP with a gold glove at 1B then thats not so bad…..its not worth 23 million of course…..but its not that bad.
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Pena is .880 OPS career against RHP. That would give Tex an overall .890 OPS with his gold glove.
That is still pretty good, better than “not so bad.” For comparison, Prince Fielder’s career OPS is around .920, and this year his OPS is right around .850.
Blake,
I would rather see him bat right handed only. He may become quite adequate against RHP, that and the gold glove defense would make a very good player IMO, that’s certainly much better than not bad.
Charleston got slapped around tonight, 15-10.
http://www.milb.com/gameday/in.....x_crdafx_1
luis May 26th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Nilsson,
If they start to feed him off speed pitches low in the outside corner, that’s all we are going to get from him, encouragement for his teammates to cover his lack of production.
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To me, he’s still making adjustments from the left side. It’s a process that really started late last season. It was never going to click overnight.
You might be better off sending your hitting tips to Pujols or Montero.
Tex’s career numbers as a right handed batter even though they are small are very good:
28 at bast, 321 avg, 355 OBP, 891 OPS, 536 SLG. That’s why i say that he can be quite good if he decided to bat right handed only. Besides, there is only the pitch recognition adapting period, no batting mechanics or swing planes involved.
GreenBeret7 May 26th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
You might be better off sending your hitting tips to Pujols or Montero.
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Is this directed to me?
For the record:
“General manager Brian Sabean told CSNBayArea.com’s Andrew Baggarly that the ”stars would have to align” for the Giants to extend Melky Cabrera during the season.
Baggarly notes that Sabean also wouldn’t rule out the possibility, either. The Giants have $80 million invested in next year’s payroll and have nothing to gain by signing Cabrera when his value is at its highest. The 27-year-old is making $6 million in his final year of arbitration.”
Source: Andrew Baggarly on Twitter May 26 – 3:53 PM
“I would rather see him bat right handed only. He may become quite adequate against RHP, that and the gold glove defense would make a very good player IMO, that’s certainly much better than not bad.”
I think that’s a somewhat dangerous road to go down….he hasn’t hit RHP right handed in a long long time…..I’d only do that if he just couldn’t contribute at all left handed and despite his warts from that side I think he still can…..I just think we have to wrap our minds around what time of hitter he might be from that side…..
Walk off for the Sux 3-2 over Rays, we are one game closer
The results from today’s games couldn’t have worked out better. They gained ground on every team in the East that was ahead of them.
Tex has been a switch hitter all his life. He is not going to change now.
Great pitching by Price and Beckett.
RMS May 26th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Tex has been a switch hitter all his life. He is not going to change now.
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Then, we may be stuck with a very expensive contract in relation to the production we will get from him. Not to mention the payroll inflexibility that it will bring going forward.
Then, we may be stuck with a very expensive contract in relation to the production we will get from him. Not to mention the payroll inflexibility that it will bring going forward.
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Same can be said for Alex.
luis says:
May 26, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RMS May 26th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Tex has been a switch hitter all his life. He is not going to change now.
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Then, we may be stuck with a very expensive contract in relation to the production we will get from him. Not to mention the payroll inflexibility that it will bring going forward.
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Maybe.
Or maybe we’re ‘stuck’ with a gold glove-caliber first baseman, who makes the rest of the infield better, and gives you 30-100 year in and year out.
People always focus in what an athlete does NOT do, ignoring his contributions in other areas. Texeira appears to be the latest.
He’s only averaged 37 homer and 114 RBIs a year in
Pinstripes, not to mention flashing the leather whether he’s hitting or not.
To read this blog, one would conclude that he must have been finished for years.
Unbelievable.
RMS May 26th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Then, we may be stuck with a very expensive contract in relation to the production we will get from him. Not to mention the payroll inflexibility that it will bring going forward.
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Same can be said for Alex.
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That’s a given. But right now Tex’s looks worse.
Dionysius Thelxinoe May 26th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
People always focus in what an athlete does NOT do, ignoring his contributions in other areas. Texeira appears to be the latest.
He’s only averaged 37 homer and 114 RBIs a year in
Pinstripes, not to mention flashing the leather whether he’s hitting or not.
To read this blog, one would conclude that he must have been finished for years.
Unbelievable.
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We signed Tex to anchor the middle of the lineup while Alex declined. While Alex has declined, he is still very productive at age 36. Tex is supposed to be in his prime and at worse the back end of it. He has declined even worse than Arod has. There is no one to compliment Cano in the middle of the lineup and things are going to get worse going forward.
I don’t want to get in to the stats to show it, because they have been shown plenty of times before. Nobody is saying he is finished, he is just not the player the Yankees signed. Given the current roster construction, talent available and payroll restraints, this is bad news in deed.
Whether you want to see it or not, that’s a different issue all together. The kind of player he has become, is a far cry of the typical Yankee batter that brought us so many satisfactions in the past.
Carlos Pena would probably hit 30/100 hitting fifth in this lineup.
Carlos Pena is making 7.25 mil this year.
Teixeira is making 22.5 mil this year. He needs to be more than Carlos Pena, a lot more.
To me, he’s still making adjustments from the left side. It’s a process that really started late last season. It was never going to click overnight.
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He just declared that he has abandoned all the changes he was trying. We are back to square one.
jacksquat May 26th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Carlos Pena would probably hit 30/100 hitting fifth in this lineup.
Carlos Pena is making 7.25 mil this year.
Teixeira is making 22.5 mil this year. He needs to be more than Carlos Pena, a lot more.
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This is spot on.
What kind of player has Tex become all of a sudden? Explain that to me, cause I don’t get it.
He wasn’t signed to win batting titles. His BA has dropped in the last year from his .280+ lifetime, BFD. Nothing you can say demonstrates that he’s not still a middle-of-the-order 30-100 guy.
The grass is always greener on the other side.
Dionysius Thelxinoe May 26th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
What kind of player has Tex become all of a sudden? Explain that to me, cause I don’t get it.
He wasn’t signed to win batting titles. His BA has dropped in the last year from his .280+ lifetime, BFD. Nothing you can say demonstrates that he’s not still a middle-of-the-order 30-100 guy.
The grass is always greener on the other side.
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It hasn’t happened all of a sudden. He was a 300 avg / 30+ HR/ 100+ RBI with a 390 OBP, 950 OPS and 500 plus slugging. In 2009 he was that guy, since then his OPS are 846, 835 and 700 currently. Avg has gone from 292 in 2009 to 256, 248 and 231 currently. His OBP in was 383 in 2009, the following years 365, 341 and 294 currently. He is declining and fast.
You can’t have a middle of the order bat with so many holes in his swing. He may do well against mediocre teams with mediocre pitching. But against a good PS team, he is toast. Our early exits of the PS have more to do with our one dimensional offense than lack of pitching.
We signed Tex to be the 300+/30+HR?100+ RBI with a high OBP and OPS. Not a low average, homer hitting good defensive 1st baseman. We signed him to be the anchor of the lineup with Cano. He isn’t.
It’s not a matter of looking at the grass in other places. It’s facing reality. This phrase would apply better to our FO, that seems to think that every player form other places is better than what they have down in the farm.
“We signed Tex to be the 300+/30+HR?100+ RBI with a high OBP and OPS”
“It’s not a matter of looking at the grass in other places. It’s facing reality. This phrase would apply better to our FO”
Hmmmm…..
294 currently
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.308 currently. Let’s just see how this plays out.
Hmmmm…..
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???? Meaning?
There Will Never Be Another Mo May 26th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
294 currently
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.308 currently. Let’s just see how this plays out.
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That must include today’s game. i got the numbers from baseball reference, they must not be updated
Excellent post by Luis
BR usually updates the next day
It’s been a while since I’ve jumped in the fray, but we need Tex to hit for power. If that means a lower average, so be it.
As for Alex, the last 2 seasons have been rough. He’s not being very productive. Tex has also been able to stay healthy relative to Alex.
Dollar for dollar, Tex is the better value right now. You can’t complain about Tex’s contract if Alex is isn’t living up to his.
Not trying to bash Alex, just trying to put Tex’s big picture in a better light. I want Alex to succeed. It’s good for the team.
As for Hamilton? Some posed the question if we should go after him.
Even if the Rangers don’t sign him (close to impossible), I pass.
Big reward, but also a big risk.
Meaning, you complain about the front office thinking that the grass is greener on the other side while at the same time stating Tex (who wasn’t part of the organization) was signed to be a player to cover for Alex’s decline.
Can’t have it both ways.
They haven’t been known as the Bronx Bombers forever for nothing. Offense rocks. When the people in charge forget that, it’s time for new people to be in charge.
ESPN always has the most up to dare numbers. BREF is pretty much a day late with numbers.
Thanks Odds.
Hi M!!, good to see you around. Agreed on hamilton. Not on Tex and Arod. Arod has maintained his OBP, he may not have as much power as he once had but it is to be expected. He is 36 years old. I would say though that he is our best situational hitter.
On Tex, you know where i stand
im watching the dodgers game and abreu was just up. the guy is hitting .327 for the dodgers. the angels made a terrible decision to cut him and keep vernon wells who’s obp is .287, plus they are overly right handed and abreu is lefty.
they owe wells something like $45M but they are never going to recover anything from that monumentally bad contract. in fact, with zito showing some life, wells may now be the poster boy for bad contracts…
“Arod has maintained his OBP, he may not have as much power as he once had but it is to be expected. He is 36 years old”
He’s the highest paid player on the team and has an 802 OPS.
M is right. Don’t complain about Tex if you aren’t going to complain about Alex’s hideous contract as well.
raymagnetic May 27th, 2012 at 12:11 am
Meaning, you complain about the front office thinking that the grass is greener on the other side while at the same time stating Tex (who wasn’t part of the organization) was signed to be a player to cover for Alex’s decline.
Can’t have it both ways.
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Still don’t get it. But i don’t think i want to have it both ways. Tex was brought in my view to cover the potential decline of Arod and bolster the offense for the title run. About the grass is greener, i said it because it was suggested that i was looking to other people’s grass. I just pointed out, that i was facing reality as the numbers suggest. I added that if you want to look for someone looking to other peoples grass, better look at the FO. Not me.
Hi, Luis.
With all players, but especially Tex, I think you gotta look at the whole year.
At the end of the year, he’s got the numbers.
If Alex can stay healthy, same for him.
“Dollar for dollar, Tex is the better value right now. ”
It is impossible to say that Tex is a better value that A-Rod. For all his problems, A-Rod is 4th in the AL among 3B in OPS. Tex is 10th among 1Bman. Quality 3B that can hit are much rarer than 1B. Time will tell who is the better value. My sense is that it is A-Rod, probably by a lot.
Ray and M,
I think both contracts are bad. I just think that Tex’s may be worse.
You’re welcome Luis
Tex is 32, there’s a much better chance of him turning it around than a soon to be 37 year old ex steroid using Alex turning it around.
As for Hamilton, how much. If I was the Yankees I wouldn’t give out any more contracts at or near $20m a year with all the pre-existing ones they have, probably not even to Cano.
When you factor in games played, games on the field the scales tip a little towards Tex.
I wasn’t around for Nunez’s demotion. Why did they decide to do it then? And did tge team go into a slump after that? Not saying he’s invaluable, just thought the timing was about the same.
m May 27th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Hi, Luis.
With all players, but especially Tex, I think you gotta look at the whole year.
At the end of the year, he’s got the numbers.
If Alex can stay healthy, same for him.
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M,
Tex’s has had two down years already. He is in his third in a row. He just declared that he will return to his old approach. Unfortunately good situational hitting approach wins championships, a one dimensional one probably means an early exit.
That Tex is 32 makes his decline v. RHP over the last two years all the more troubling.
As for steroids, every player who played in that era is suspect. The only reason we know about A-Rod is that his constitutional rights were violated.
We don’t know if steroids have played any role in A-Rods’ physical problems. It’s all speculative.
Why did they decide to do it then?
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He had that terrible game when CC started and they decided enough was enough. Send him down and let him work on his defense in AAA.
m May 27th, 2012 at 12:27 am
When you factor in games played, games on the field the scales tip a little towards Tex.
I wasn’t around for Nunez’s demotion. Why did they decide to do it then? And did tge team go into a slump after that? Not saying he’s invaluable, just thought the timing was about the same.
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He made three errors in a game, so they decided to send him down to work on his defense. The offense suffered as a result, because with Gardner out, you don’t have much speed on the lineup. So you are basically forced to play a station to station running game and wait for the homer.
“When you factor in games played, games on the field the scales tip a little towards Tex.”
Going forward, we don’t know who will play more and how much they will contribute. We do know that Tex is far more easily replaceable because of the position he plays, and that he must he hit at a much higher rate because of the production that even an average 1B put up.
raymagnetic May 27th, 2012 at 12:26 am
Tex is 32, there’s a much better chance of him turning it around than a soon to be 37 year old ex steroid using Alex turning it around.
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Unless he decides to bat right handed only, i don’t see it. His lefthanded swing is beyond repair IMO. His back leg collapses, producing the uppercut effect that has lead to his awful numbers. This mainly because the bat doesn’t stay a long period of time in the zone, that’s why he can’t go the other way with authority and the reason for the extreme shift. Other teams knows this.
All fair points. But with all his warts, Tex has a stellar glove, stays healthy, is able to play through his nicks and bruises, has the numbers bybtge end of the year, and is NOT costing us close to $30M a year.
I get why you guys feel the way you do, but for some of us we’re just as frustrated with Alex.
It’s all relative.
And it’s not fair to say, “well Alex is a certain age”. If he is, then maybe they shouldn’t have signed him to such a long extension. Hank.
“The only reason we know about A-Rod is that his constitutional rights were violated.”
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maybe his contracual rights were violated as a person covered under the cba and baseballs’ agreement with the mlbpa on drug testing, but there is no evidence that anyone’s constitutional rights were violated.
But Tex does cost $23m a year and unlike A-Rod, there has never been an assertion by anyone connected to the Yankees or in a business publication that he sells tickets or increases viewership on YES the way A-Rod has been reported to have done since 2004.
1B defense is nice, but it’s not why you give a huge contract to a 1B.
3B defense is far more important when combined with the offense A-Rod still brings.
If he is, then maybe they shouldn’t have signed him to such a long extension. Hank.
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Make sure you blame Hal. He had to sign off on it
“maybe his contracual rights were violated as a person covered under the cba and baseballs’ agreement with the mlbpa on drug testing, but there is no evidence that anyone’s constitutional rights were violated.”
This is false. Those names were under court order to be protected by a federal court order.
and you are right, we dont know who will play more in the future, but you are comparing a 32 year old who has a history of playing all the time against a 37 year old who has missed alot of time the past few years and is an admitted steroild user.
you dont know who leaked his name, therefore you dont know if that person was subject to the court’s order. you’re an attorney aren’t you, you should know this.
A-rod’s contract is bad. Whew, glad we got that out of the way so I am allowed to talk about Tex.
and on top of that, whatever the court ordered is not in the constitution, so by definition, that is not a constitutional right.
And it’s not fair to say, “well Alex is a certain age”. If he is, then maybe they shouldn’t have signed him to such a long extension. Hank.
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LMAO! What i meant by Arod’s age is that it is to be expected for him to decline. In the case of Tex, he should be in his prime. But we agree, they shouldn’t have given that contract to Arod.
m…….Doreen says hello !!!!
We will never know if it’s age or steroids, but Alex did break down early and quickly. So hard to compare him to a player who is younger and hasn’t been linked to steroids.
The question is why hasn’t Papi broken down? Grr.
“you dont know who leaked his name, therefore you dont know if that person was subject to the court’s order. you’re an attorney aren’t you, you should know this.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....egal020909
Four district court judges ruled that the records of the additional nearly a hundred players, including those of Rodriguez – were illegally seized. The Players Association sought the return of the specimens and records seized. Illston was the first judge to order the material be returned.
On Aug. 19, 2004, a Nevada district judge granted the union’s motion, ruling that “the government callously disregarded the affected players’ constitutional rights” and ordered the return of all specimens, notes and memos “other than those pertaining to the 10 BALCO players named in the original search warrant.”
you dont know who leaked his name, therefore you dont know if that person was subject to the court’s order.
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This is a specious argument. They were federally sealed, it doesn’t matter who or how the names got leaked, the order was violated. If a random Joe, not specifically named, found the results and leaked them it doesn’t matter. No one had to be ‘subject to the court’s order’ to be unable to leak the SEALED results.
better steroids…
plus the hgh papi is loading up with now is doing a great job of counteracting the steroids he used to load up on…
We will never know if it’s age or steroids, but Alex did break down early and quickly.
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A-rod is still an above average player, especially at his position. And his decline has come in his late 30s.
Tex is just exiting his prime and is already looking really bad from the dominant side of the plate.
“and on top of that, whatever the court ordered is not in the constitution, so by definition, that is not a constitutional right.”
This is kind of funny.
The A-rod contract is horrendous, but Tex was supposed to be a tonic for it. A beefy, all-arounder that could get on base, hit for average, and power from both sides of the plate who would sit in the 3 spot for the next 8 years. They have basically compounded their blunder by doubling down.
this isnt true. the court can’t order that nobody on the planet can say something. when a court orders something it is not a blanket that applies to everyone in the world, it only applies to persons involved in the case the attorneys and other related persons and others specifically named in the order.
even rich will tell you this is true if he is still here im sure.
Pat M.,
Tell her I said, “Hello” !
Good to hear from her.
I’m not trying to play up Tex. Just trying to say he is a contributor on this team. Even if he looks bad from both sides of the plate. He is who he is!
Well guys, have a good one. I am signing off. Good night everyone.
“this isnt true. the court can’t order that nobody on the planet can say something. when a court orders something it is not a blanket that applies to everyone in the world, it only applies to persons involved in the case the attorneys and other related persons and others specifically named in the order.”
You are removing reasonableness from the equation. These names don’t tumble down from the sky into some anonymous person’s hands. There are a limited number of people who had access to the information, all of whom were within the court’s jurisdiction. Consequently, any leak of the information is contrary to the court’s order, and as a result, a violation of the injured party’s constitutional rights.
GN luis
ok its kind of funny, can you tell me what constitutional right of arod’s was violated?
I’m not trying to play up Tex. Just trying to say he is a contributor on this team. Even if he looks bad from both sides of the plate. He is who he is!
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Of course he is a contributor. It is the amount he is contributing that is in question.
Constitutional right to due process.
“ok its kind of funny, can you tell me what constitutional right of arod’s was violated?”
As the article says:
“Rodriguez’s test results were seized during the April 2004 raid, when BALCO prosecutors and Novitzky expanded a legal warrant for the records of 10 MLB players into a grab for the records of more than a hundred players – everyone who flunked the league’s first test for steroids. Illston called the search a violation of the Fourth Amendment. She also suggested that if the records became public, MLB’s interests would be harmed, saying, “I can’t imagine that there’s going to be any voluntary agreement [by the Players Association] to do this kind of testing.”
I didn’t realize that Tex was an antidote or a life- extension miracle.
I thought we needed a 1B that could actually field his position. The power was pretty sexy, too.
b ut if you dont know who leaked the name, you cant cast aspursions and complain about constitutional rights that were violated. you are assuming that the government leaked the names, when there were agents, clerks, testers, executives from the testing company, people in mlb offices, team offices and others who may have had access to these results and may have leaked them. and the leak could even have occured before the court order you are citing was even issued.
I thought we needed a 1B that could actually field his position.
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I don’t think you really think they signed him for 23 million a year because of his slick glove. Why bother pretending?
b ut if you dont know who leaked the name, you cant cast aspursions and complain about constitutional rights that were violated.
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It doesn’t matter who or when they were leaked for A-rod’s rights to have been violated. You seem to be missing this.
so someone named illson says the leak violated the amendment without offering any proof of this, so we are all supposed to accept that he is right?
“b ut if you dont know who leaked the name, you cant cast aspursions and complain about constitutional rights that were violated”
There are objective facts in life, but if you choose not to acknowledge them, what’s the point.
rich said his constitutional rights were violated. i see no proof of that. how do you know that arod’s agent or one of his agent’s secretaries? or some team official who doesnt like him leaked the information? you are making an accusation you cant prove.
how do you know that arod’s agent or one of his agent’s secretaries? or some team official who doesnt like him leaked the information?
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But it doesn’t matter who did it just that it happened!
It is some entity’s responsibility to make sure the information is not leaked, and all the players on that list were entitled to that.
There are probably several constitutional angles that could be taken.
m…….20 years from now when Texeria goes into the HOF as a Yankee I doubt all this critical overview will no longer be an issue……
Anyway, how did we get on this topic?
Oh that’s right, it’s Jerkface’s fault.
I don’t really care if Tex makes the HOF, if he hits .230/.310 it’s going to be an issue, I don’t care if he still has 30/100.
“There are probably several constitutional angles that could be taken.”
but you cant name any of them. good argument.
20 years from now when Texeria goes into the HOF as a Yankee I doubt all this critical overview will no longer be an issue……
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Pat M, how do you reconcile your delusions with his production last year? Or this year? Or how about his line from July 1st to now (.245 .318 .433 .751)? The Hall of Fame Tex was a perennial .900 OPS bat from both sidse.
right now, i’d call the well’s contract worse than arods and probably zito’s right behind that. there is a solid chance that pujol’s will be worse, too. but unless we see some real power improvement the next 5 years of that contract are going to be a disaster and if the yankees dont win during that time, its going to get very ugly for arod.
And Mark Teixeira’s inevitable induction into the hall of fame doesn’t help the team now, which is what anyone is talking about. Talk about losing sight of the issue.
I miss Doreen.
They paid Giambi $5M to go away. Swisher was our starting 1B in the same way Bubba Crosby was our starting CF.
And I wasn’t pretending, just trying to poke holes in theory that Tex was signed as a hedge to Alex’s unforeseeable decline.
And I wasn’t pretending, just trying to poke holes in theory that Tex was signed as a hedge to Alex’s unforeseeable decline.
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But there aren’t any holes to poke. Mark Teixeira was brought in to hit third and be a force in the lineup for his contract. A-rod’s contract, by nature, goes into his 40s. Of course Teixeira is there to hedge against his decline, Tex’s contract takes him from his prime to a reasonable sunset (age 36, A-rod’s CURRENT AGE).
Guy goes 4 for 5. With 2 homers. Only on this blog……
johnny damon is 4 for his last 57 and was benched twice this week….not a pretty ending. i believe he asked the yankees for $4M for this season before cashman signed ibanez…
sorry had that wrong his 5 for his last 33 ….and hitting .162 the past month…
I just hope Tex doesn’t get into the HoF for being a compiler. We need the player he was when signed. The last two years that player is a missing person.
Rich in NJ…….I agree with you
“Guy goes 4 for 5. With 2 homers. Only on this blog……”
Only on this blog context matters, or are we just here to wave the pom poms and forget about reality?
What a joke.
Let’s roll back the clock. Pretend Tex signed with Boston. Who was our 1B in 2009? And in 2012?
2012, Prince Fielder. He would be perfect for the stadium.
Didn’t realize the time. GN all.
And we don’t need Alex to be Alex? I think we expected the wheels to fall off in year 7 or so. Not year 3 of the extension.
Strange how we used to go as Alex goes. Now we’re writing stuff off because of his age. Now it’s all falling on Tex’s shoulders. We win one WS with Alex, he “comes” clean about his steroid use, and he gets a pass on everything now cuz he’s a good guy now.
Tex may be the paper umbrella in the drink that doesn’t always stay open, but Alex was supposed to be the straw that stirs the drink.
Tex was a complementary player. Alex was the man. Lucky thing Cano has emerged into a superstar. He’s saved Alex a lot of scrutiny.
And we don’t need Alex to be Alex? I think we expected the wheels to fall off in year 7 or so. Not year 3 of the extension.
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The A-rod deal was/is terrible. His first contract was great, but the opt out was dumb (smart for A-rod).
That deal being terrible doesn’t excuse Tex’s from also being terrible. And Tex is younger for more of his deal. He has no business being terrible!
Face….By the way you must be off your game because comparing Rob Deer to Mark Texeria is comical…..If we were having this conversation amongst baseball people and you make that comment you get tossed………Deer hits the piss out of a titleist is said to be a good guy…..Your game is off as of late Face……..Weak sh*t
Yea its weak, coming from the guy that is calling a .700 OPS first baseman a hofer
The Rob Deer comparison was specific, because all you got is saying Tex will have 30/100 at the end of the season. All he has now is power. His average is in the low 200′s. His OBP is below average. He has SLG.
Thats what Deer had. Its not a straight comparison but talking about the type of player he is now.
Atleast I have something to bring to the table, you got nothing except talking about where Tex will be in 20 years.
So what Tex has had 2 games against to bottom of the barrel pitchers.. The last 2+ years the guys been a joke in the clutch .. Rapid decline ., he has two games and still fails to be accountable and blames everyone but himself. I dont respect that at all. I would respect him if he was a bit more humble and honest. So he starts hitting and his cough magically goes away? Seems hes fine breathing getting thrown out at 3d trying to stretch a double.. Mark my words when he faces real pitching and when we need it most he’ll fail as usual. Call me negative or call me a realist, im not buying his BS.. It was so obvious he was intentionally exaggerating his “cough”. First he blames the cough now he says its everyone elses fault for telling him what to do. Whatta joke. He’s proving to be just as much as a headcase as Arod. But i dont think he can handle the pressure nearly as well as Alex. Glad he did well off these bum pitchers, maybe it will give him more confidence against real arms.. I suspect the Tex saga is very far from resolved. Malarky Teixeira !
Pat M, Tex has hit .245 .318 .433 .751 from July 1st to present. So whats up?
You go to ‘baseball people’ and tell them Tex is playing like a HoFer you get tossed.
Face…..Texeria hasn’t been quite the same ever since he was drilled in the knee by Jon Lester last June……..Look at his back leg flex before and after
So has he been permanently hobbled? You cannot say with a straight face that the Tex of now or last year is the same as the one in 09 or the guy you think is a HoFer.
Great piece in today’s NY Times about Bob Ojeda written by Bob Ojeda…….Real good read……Face, I didn’t say Texeria is or was permanently hobbled….What I will say is that his swing is different on low inside pitches…..Forget the spreadsheets, spend some time looking at tape….Then again that requires a trained eye to notice…..
I didn’t say you said he was, I was asking you if you think he is, because he has been pretty bad from July 1st of last year onward, and he has declined precipitously from 09 onward.
How is looking at tape going to tell me that Mark Teixeira is good and currently a hall of fame player? These are your assertions. You seem to think his performance right now is worthy of praise. I am asking you to reconcile these thoughts with mark teixeira’s ACTUAL performance.
I assume you think he is going to: fix his swing? become uninjured?
How is he going to be the hall of fame high OPS teixeira that you think exists?
Or are you just roundaboutly agreeing with EVERYONE here that his swing is messed up and he is currently bad, but you just don’t want to admit it?
And Mark Teixeira’s triple slash line, which is a record of actual baseball production, is not a spreadsheet. Good try though.
Texeria is struggling and all I’m attempting to point out pretty solid reasons as to why….He’s losing a hit a week because of the shifts and how he’s being pitched to……….There’s always a cost for being injured and playing hurt…….Read the Ojeda piece in the Times today…..Outstanding
Only in the fantasy, idiotic world of the LoHud Yankees blog can ‘fans’ like many of you pick on a Yankees player every hour, every day, and then stfu when he shows how wrong you are.
Last year it was Derek Jeter, I could go back and identify each and every one of you who claimed he was ‘finished’, ‘washed up’, ‘should hit 9th’, etc, etc, etc. Of course that was wrong, like most of the moronic, idiotic bs comments that permeate this blog on a daily basis.
Mark Teixeira has been the personal whipping boy of many of you self proclaimed experts who couldn’t hit a 50 mph lob ball let alone a any major league pitcher. Yet you hammer on this guy every day, even when he goes yard 2X and knocks in 5 runs. I won’t even begin to explain how ridiculous that is, maybe one of you will figure it out sometime.
This blog has gone so far downhill in the past few years it has become an embarrassment to real Yankees fans everywhere. I just feel bad that knowledgeable guys like Pat M (and a few others) who still post here have to interact with you clowns.
MG May 27th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Only in the fantasy, idiotic world of the LoHud Yankees blog can ‘fans’ like many of you pick on a Yankees player every hour, every day, and then stfu when he shows how wrong you are.
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I read this blog because it makes me laugh. The people who post are just fans venting. They have no special expertise to evaluate talent or managers or general managers. They just live and die with the Yanks…….some would say that they mostly die on here.
Good morning.
Short drive-by as company is in town.
That makes 4 in a row.
Hope Kuroda brings his Samauri-style broom along tonight.
As far as Tex goes I think most people thought he would be the guy
he was in 09 for most of his contract.
Happy Sunday MTU….have a great memorial day weekend!
You’re sure doing a lot of hosting lately, MTU! I would love to get out there one day and have you teach me how to take a photo that looks about 10% as stunning as yours do. I have absolutely no gift in that area.
Here’s hoping the boys can keep it going. Winning builds confidence and with the Angels playing better, I’d like to be coming off a win when the Yanks play them.
Hope you all have a great Memorial Day weekend.
Filled with Family, Friends, and good BBQ.
A special thanks to our Vets.
J. Sherman’s look at Cashman’s trade and FA signing record since 2005. A fair assessment I would say:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....Y7F0vTxyoM
I think JF and Pat M were both right last night…..Tex both is probably going to the HOF and needs to be better than he has the last two years ideally……
Blake-
Enjoy your time with your loved ones.
Time with your little ones is precious and so fleeting.
Baseball is just a game.
Wang-
I’ll be glad to do it. You have to promise a private recital though.
I need to impress my neighbors by bringin’ a few famous people every now and again.
It’s US holidays like Memorial Day that make we really miss my country. Thanks to all who have fought for our freedom and safety.
MTU –I’d scare the neighbors, I’m sure.
Have a great day!
“Mark Teixeira has been the personal whipping boy of many of you self proclaimed experts who couldn’t hit a 50 mph lob ball let alone a any major league pitcher.”
mg-
i’m on here most days , and i don’t know who has been ragging on teixeira off the top of my head. a lot of people including me have said he should be moved in the batting order. but that’s not whipping him.
im not saying some haven’t been bashing him, but who exactly are you talking about?
i really don’t know of anyone specifically. i think most fans on here just want the guy to be like the back of his baseball card.
Time to walk the mops.
MTU,
Youre a wise bird
What’s with the Popeye impression?
Stop the revisionist history pertaining to this Blog. Half a day was spent around here trying to figure out which teams the Yanks could Dump TEX on. To say the guy was NOT “whipped”, makes credibility an issue along with jumping ship when things are going bad. Almost an entire day was wasted around here, with the “hitting coaches” on this Blog taking apart TEX’s swing. ALL ridiculous when you consider just last season TEX hit 39 Dingers and knocked in Over 100.