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Rodriguez at DH

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 29, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Raul Ibanez LF
Nick Swisher RF
Eric Chavez 3B
Russell Martin C

LHP Andy Pettitte

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91 Responses to “Rodriguez at DH”

  1. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    I’m thinking Girardi is looking pretty much like a genius, and those who complained about Tex’s place in the lineup, not so much.

    :)

  2. Against All Odds May 29th, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Rich in NJ May 29th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Just to amplify:

    Vazquez lead the MLB in Abuse Points in 2003 prior to being a Yankee.

    Weaver was largely a two-pitch pitcher and off the field issues.

    Brown had back issues.

    Pineda was in the injury matrix, and perhaps worse, the way they handled in ST having him pitch to be in the rotation, despite a sustained and significant lack of velo was bizarre.

    This isn’t bad luck. It’s a bad thought process

    ———————–

    Maybe we’re expecting too much from the FO. We expect them to have a good grasp when it comes to acquiring pitching but as we see that’s not the case.

  3. jmills May 29th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Hi Yankee fans( hard to rite real good on this blackberry ) – try and enjoy the game . Sports sometimes become a drug of irritating occupation . I lost a few more hairs over my Jays last weekend . Nice night here in the armpit of Ontario – Hamilton ( better preserved city than Toronto and older at that .) Take care ! J

  4. Pat M. May 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Should be interesting tonight to see which starter can go deep and save their club’s pen…..That very well could be the difference in the game’s outcome……Go Yanks………Loading up on OKC + 4.5 ( $ 185.00 moneyline )……If I didn’t see it for myself I would never have believed that Serena Williams would get bounced out in the first round of a Major …..American Tennis is sad right now

  5. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....und-69282/

    Trisha,

    This is a nice piece about Tex. Let’s hope that whatever he is doing, pays of in the long run. But it gives you some perspective about why some of us are/were so concerned and down on him. Not only the stats suggest an early decline, but also the naked eye for a keen observant.

    Tonight will be a very good test to see if whatever he is doing is gonna work. If he lays off the off speed junk ( CU, Splitters ) he should be fine.

    As far as Girardi a genius…..Well….Let’s say that he is better than Torre in some things. But a genius….Hardly

  6. Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    As far as Girardi a genius…..Well….Let’s say that he is better than Torre in some things. But a genius….Hardly

    Beyond not burning arms in the bullpen, he has nothing on Torre.

  7. jacksquat May 29th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    As far as Girardi a genius…..Well….Let’s say that he is better than Torre in some things. But a genius….Hardly

    Torre would have kept Montero. ;)

  8. Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Cashman got tired of not being able to control Torre. Girardi’s is a YES man.

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    luis, as my father would always say – there are three sides to every story. Mine, yours, and the truth.

    :)

    Every time I read a complete divergence of opinion on any issue here, it makes me realize that the truth pretty much lies in the middle.

    I guess since I’m someone who wasn’t ready to kill over the Pineda-Montero trade, I’m more forgiving of Girardi than those of you who were (and still are) ready to kill over it.

    And the fact that there are some polarized opinions on the trade, with people who purport to be experts on both sides of the issue, tells me that most things are perceptual.

    There are posters who feel that the Yankees entire pitching area has been mishandled for a long time now. And then there are others who don’t agree with that.

    So here’s what I have to say to that. Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has one.

  10. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    If I didn’t see it for myself I would never have believed that Serena Williams would get bounced out in the first round of a Major
    ===================
    Pat M
    Do you wager on tennis?

  11. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    As far as Girardi a genius…..Well….Let’s say that he is better than Torre in some things. But a genius….Hardly

    Beyond not burning arms in the bullpen, he has nothing on Torre.

    =============================

    Hi Wang,

    To be fair he does several things better. Handles the BP and the rest of players better, he has learned to deal with the media. What i would criticize more is his lack of urgency in certain situations (Like yesterday for example, that was a must win game after the lucky break of not having to face Weaver) or his in game management, which i think is atrocious. The man has no feel for those situations and frankly makes some mind boggling decisions from time to time.

  12. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    jacksquat May 29th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    As far as Girardi a genius…..Well….Let’s say that he is better than Torre in some things. But a genius….Hardly

    Torre would have kept Montero. ;)

    =============================

    LMAO!! Don’t get started!! Honestly, i don’t think Torre would have kept him either. He liked his vets…I think Jeter was imposed on him

  13. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Do you really feel Torre would have let a generational bat go?

  14. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    And my reference to his genius was specifically tied to his placement of Tex in the lineup.

    Sorry, but I have to stick to my contention that the wisdom and information fans have is infinitesimal compared to the wisdom and information managers have at their fingertips.

    What armchair GMs are best at is – monday morning QBing. Well, hell, who can’t do that?

    When someone here manages a team to a world series, I probably will be impressed enough to actually pay close attention to her or his thoughts on how to run a team.

    Until then – GO YANKEES!

    :D

  15. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    So here’s what I have to say to that. Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has one.
    ==========================
    some are inseys, some are outseys.

  16. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Sorry, but I have to stick to my contention that the wisdom and information fans have is infinitesimal compared to the wisdom and information managers have at their fingertips.
    ==========================
    some here might have more info than some mgrs would have.
    at least the mgrs who aren’t prone to use these stats.

  17. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    luis, as my father would always say – there are three sides to every story. Mine, yours, and the truth.

    ====================================

    That’s fine Trisha, Very wise words from your father. ;)

  18. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    When someone here manages a team to a world series, I probably will be impressed enough to actually pay close attention to her or his thoughts on how to run a team.
    ============================
    a woman mgr-that would be a 1st..

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    luis, but see here is a divergence of opinion. I didn’t see anything about last night’s game that was a must win. It isn’t like the Yankees were 5 games out of playoff contention with 5 left to play!

    You could also call games against teams that lots of posters call “terrible” as must win games. I don’t see them as that either.

    They’re games. There will be games that nobody thought the Yankees would win (except me since I think they’re going to win every game, ha ha) that they will win.

    The excitement of a season is in not really knowing the outcome of every game but thinking you’re always in it. That’s the excitement to me anyway. For me the season is fun, never angst.

    It’s a game, and I love my team. So there’s no reason to fret. Ever.

    And let me add here, it isn’t like the Yankee organization is chopped liver. If you’re in the postseason for something like 20 out of 21 years (or whatever it is), you’re doing something right.

    And as long as we continue to live with the unbalanced schedule, we will deal with the hottest hand taking it all. Period. The “best” team doesn’t always come away with the trophy.

    I hate Bud Selig.

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    luis, he was one of the wisest men I ever met in my life – and also one of the most honest and upright.

    I miss him every day of my life.

    :(

  21. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    What armchair GMs are best at is – monday morning QBing. Well, hell, who can’t do that?

    ===================================

    See trish this are the kind of comments that get you in trouble. Why not just state your position without degrading your other fellow posters?

    You could say….I honestly trust more the decision making of the front office due to their record and experience. Just a suggestion. ;)

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Verlander not exactly man-handling the Sux.

    I do believe in karma. Bit Fat Sloppy will assure that no matter how much success that team has, they’ll always end up falling short. I do belive that the baseball gods dislike cheats.

  23. Triple Short of a Cycle May 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    I’m thinking Girardi is looking pretty much like a genius, and those who complained about Tex’s place in the lineup, not so much.

    ————————————————————–

    He has been moved up and down all year

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    luis, point well taken. Seriously.

    I honestly trust more the decision making of the front office due to their record and experience.

    :)

  25. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    See trish this are the kind of comments that get you in trouble. Why not just state your position without degrading your other fellow posters?
    ================
    Luis-
    Maybe you take your GM skills too seriously?

  26. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    I honestly trust more the decision making of the front office due to their record and experience.

    :)
    ==================
    Now , that doesn’t sound like trisha.

  27. Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Hi there, luis!

    I disagree that he handles the media well. If he did, there wouldn’t be so many of us irritated at listening to his asinine explanations. He’ll never do well in that arena because he doesn’t know how to finesse his words and can’t differentiate between protecting his players and speaking truthfully but tactfully. Torre excelled at that. Girardi is also is unable to ever say he made the wrong call. But at least he doesn’t lose his cool at every legit question like he did season one.

    Resting his players the first week of the season? Ridiculous. He takes good ideas and then becomes so dogmatic about them, they end up hurting the team. He over-rests certain players and at times, takes them away from their routines as they’re hitting hot streaks. You’d think he’d never played baseball himself and gotten on a hot streak. You ride it as long as you can. On the flip side of that, he doesn’t give guys like Cano or Granderson any rest until they’re dead on their feet. Granderson didn’t get a day off until just recently and when he came back, it showed. He started hitting well again.

    His inflexible 8th inning guy, 7th inning guy nonsense handicaps the team — as we saw very clearly last night. He crowned Joba the 8th inning guy one season when it was clear to all of us that he wasn’t up to it.

    He paints himself into a corner because he’s so stubborn in his declarations and methods. That’s why I dubbed him the donkey his first year in NYC as manager.

    Here’s what I like about Girardi: He’s a good man and he genuinely wants to protect his players (unless their last name is Posada or Montero).

    I respect your opinions, but we’ll have to agree to disagree about Girardi for the most part. But I totally agree with you on the fact that he has no feel for the game.

  28. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    “He has been moved up and down all year”

    Not so.

  29. jacksquat May 29th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    I’m thinking Girardi is looking pretty much like a genius, and those who complained about Tex’s place in the lineup, not so much.

    Is it a coincidence that after he rested (which we suggested) and after being sent down to 7th place in the order for a couple games (which we suggested) he started hitting?

    Genius Joe didn’t do these things until after weeks of questions about both.

  30. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Trisha,

    I’ve played the game. And every game counts. i do believe in the baseball gods, they punish you when you don’t take the opportunities the game gives you. Last night was one of those…is it season ending?…No…But it could mean a different position down the road.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    “Now , that doesn’t sound like trisha.”

    :)

    Talk about being in a catch 22.

  32. Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle May 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    I’m thinking Girardi is looking pretty much like a genius, and those who complained about Tex’s place in the lineup, not so much.

    ————————————————————–

    He has been moved up and down all year

    ————————————————————–

    He has been moved, but except for the desperation move to #7, Girardi kept him in the heart of the lineup which is what many of us wanted to change.

    I’m just grateful he’s currently hitting. I’m sure feeling better is a huge part of it.

  33. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    See trish this are the kind of comments that get you in trouble. Why not just state your position without degrading your other fellow posters?
    ================
    Luis-
    Maybe you take your GM skills too seriously?

    ========================

    LOL!! No!! But people in general don’t take lightly those kind of comments. i was just trying to help.

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    luis – we’ll agree to disagree. There will be other games that the Yankees will win, that they’re not expected to win.

    I just don’t get thrown by any particular loss. A loss is a loss. They happen.

    Since I know the Yankees will be there in the end, I am good to go in between.

    Just the way I rock and roll.

    :)

  35. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    LOL!! No!! But people in general don’t take lightly those kind of comments.
    ==================================
    I think most take everything lightly in LoHudville.
    A minority gets their panties in a personal twist.

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    jacksquat, there was at least one or two posters who flipped out when he was put in the 5 hole, insisting he should be moved down.

    Credit where it’s due. Girardi kept him in the 5 hole and he started to get the job done.

  37. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Hi there, luis!

    I disagree that he handles the media well. If he did, there wouldn’t be so many of us irritated at listening to his asinine explanations. He’ll never do well in that arena because he doesn’t know how to finesse his words and can’t differentiate between protecting his players and speaking truthfully but tactfully. Torre excelled at that. Girardi is also is unable to ever say he made the wrong call. But at least he doesn’t lose his cool at every legit question like he did season one.

    Resting his players the first week of the season? Ridiculous. He takes good ideas and then becomes so dogmatic about them, they end up hurting the team. He over-rests certain players and at times, takes them away from their routines as they’re hitting hot streaks. You’d think he’d never played baseball himself and gotten on a hot streak. You ride it as long as you can. On the flip side of that, he doesn’t give guys like Cano or Granderson any rest until they’re dead on their feet. Granderson didn’t get a day off until just recently and when he came back, it showed. He started hitting well again.

    His inflexible 8th inning guy, 7th inning guy nonsense handicaps the team — as we saw very clearly last night. He crowned Joba the 8th inning guy one season when it was clear to all of us that he wasn’t up to it.

    He paints himself into a corner because he’s so stubborn in his declarations and methods. That’s why I dubbed him the donkey his first year in NYC as manager.

    Here’s what I like about Girardi: He’s a good man and he genuinely wants to protect his players (unless their last name is Posada or Montero).

    I respect your opinions, but we’ll have to agree to disagree about Girardi for the most part. But I totally agree with you on the fact that he has no feel for the game.

    ==============================

    Wang,

    This is a very good post! We agree more than you think. ;) I just spoke in general terms, you just did a very comprehensive analysis. Kudos

  38. mick May 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    I think people react more to the personality than the comment.

  39. luis May 29th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Trish,

    I hate Bud Selig too!! :D especially for the new CBA

  40. Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Apologies to all for posting such a long post. I usually skip past those, as you likely did as well. ;)

    Thanks, luis. Yeah, I get the feeling we’re on the same page most of the time!

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    “I think people react more to the personality than the comment.”

    I think you are exactly right.

  42. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    A calm has come over LoHudville…

  43. luis May 29th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Trish and Mick,

    I honestly think you are both wrong. Personality has nothing to do with my previous comments. It’s about presentation as you very well say Mick. I happen to appreciate Trisha a great deal. Otherwise, i would have kept my mouth shut.

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Verlander isn’t very Verlander-like tonight. Must be the malaise of facing the Al Beast. Either that or maybe the Tigres are slumping. It happens.

  45. luis May 29th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Apologies to all for posting such a long post. I usually skip past those, as you likely did as well. ;)

    Thanks, luis. Yeah, I get the feeling we’re on the same page most of the time!

    ========================================

    FTR: I am in the fire Girardi camp.

  46. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    presentation and personality are tied together…you can be cold and impersonal or warm and personal.

  47. Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    “FTR: I am in the fire Girardi camp.”

    luis, I thought so.

  48. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    FTR: I am in the fire Girardi camp.
    =====================
    what if he wins it all?

  49. Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
    FTR: I am in the fire Girardi camp.
    =====================
    what if he wins it all?

    =====================

    Highly unlikely the Yanks will take it this year. But if a miracle should occur, it means that the team will have overcome his handicapping decisions/moves. In other words, they will have won DESPITE him. That’s how they won in 2009, IMO.

  50. Wang IS Taiwan May 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Would love to hang out here for a while, but I have some work to do. I’ll try to catch you guys later during the game (if possible).

    Have a good one!

  51. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Highly unlikely the Yanks will take it this year.
    ==========================
    because of Joe?

  52. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    Highly unlikely the Yanks will take it this year. But if a miracle should occur,
    ===========================
    A miracle?

  53. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    luis, I think mick was talking in general terms. I see you as an exception here. Or let’s just say that the minority is so vocal that they take on the appearance of the majority! There are certainly posters here who are generous with their comments and sincere and don’t demand that there be agreement at the risk of being beheaded the dissenters. And then there are some who are more demanding of obeisance.

    Just the way it is.

    For example, I’ve been very content to have my own opinion on Kuroda. Notice that I don’t ever need an army in order to feel that I am on to something. I haven’t felt the need to tell anyone else that he or she is wrong about Kuroda, if that person holds a different opinion.

    I might be a little more demanding when it comes to respect and loyalty toward the team. But hey is that all bad?

    :)

  54. blake May 29th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    is there a fire Hal camp?

  55. luis May 29th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Mick,

    Last comment on the subject. What you say is true to a point. Unfortunately, you don’t have the body language to compliment your posts in a blog. So, no matter how warm and personal your comment is, there is always something missing. And the opportunity to be misunderstood is there. Same goes with the cold and impersonal comments. The advantage the blog brings is that you actually get to think before you write, therefore it gives you an opportunity to ponder your thoughts before you actually post. I always try to put myself in the other persons shoes. Granted, i don’t always succeed but it’s a good way to start.

  56. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    is there a fire Hal camp?
    ==============
    that can’t be done…

  57. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    nice post luis.

  58. luis May 29th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Later Wang, have a good one.

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Maybe. There’s a fire everyone else Yankee camp, so there must be one for Hal.

    blake, I believe in my heart and soul that the majority of posters who are totally upset about the Pineda-Montero trade, well at least a goodly subset of that group, automatically want to see Girardi, Cashman, and anyone ese who okayed that trade sent to Siberia. I also believe that if Montero were still here, there would be love, peace, and understanding for Cashman and Girardi, no matter how the team struggled. Just the way I see it.

  60. The Genius Maker May 29th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    • GreenBeret7 May 29th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    among the pitchers most like Hughes at age 25 is John Lackey (before Boston), Kyle Kendrick, Matt Harrison and ROY HALLADAY. Time is on Hughes side, except on here and in the media.
    **********
    GB7, not sure where you are getting your comps, but Harrison at the age of 25 had an ERA of 3.39 in 185 IP and Halladay was a stud at 24 and at 25 was an All Star with ERA’s of 3.16 and 2.93 respectively. So if you mean they are most like him meaning he isn’t anything like them, then you are spot on.

    I was extremely disappointed with Hughes because I had stated he was lucky in his previous 2 games as he made a lot of mistakes, they just didn’t hit well. yesterday it showed up again. Now, will he always pitch to a 9+ ERA…of course not, but I was still disappointed and at the same time he should not be removed from the rotation; that would be an awful decision at this point.

  61. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    now that luis trisha and I have been appointed the blog cops for the evening, all looks to be in good stead for tonites thread…as it was last nite.

    remember all trolls are subject to a vote ;)

  62. luis May 29th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    I might be a little more demanding when it comes to respect and loyalty toward the team. But hey is that all bad?

    :)

    ========================

    Not at all….In fact, that’s one of the things i like from you the most.

  63. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Now you talk about “must win” games. I was convinced that the Tigres would take this game because Verlander is on the mound. I certainly hope they end up taking it, but I’m sure a lot of Detroit fans think of this as a must win.

    In reality, it’s just another game. If you have must-win games, your team probably isn’t a contender anyway.

  64. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    I also believe that if Montero were still here, there would be love, peace, and understanding for Cashman and Girardi, no matter how the team struggled.
    =================
    not sure about that one trish…

  65. blake May 29th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    “blake, I believe in my heart and soul that the majority of posters who are totally upset about the Pineda-Montero trade, well at least a goodly subset of that group, automatically want to see Girardi, Cashman, and anyone ese who okayed that trade sent to Siberia”

    eh….I don’t necessarily want them all gone….I think Cashman has good qualities and would like to see him stay in the organization….and I think Girardi does as well…..it’s tough for me to evaluate the trade as it related to the Yankees without truly knowing how much ownership was involved either directly or indirectly.

  66. luis May 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    blake May 29th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    is there a fire Hal camp?

    ========================

    I feel ya Blake!!! ;)

  67. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    “Not at all….In fact, that’s one of the things i like from you the most.”

    :mrgreen:

    I can promise you that I will never let you down when it comes to that.

  68. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    mick, last night actually worked out very well. The trolls showed up in force but not one of us responded to them and they all disappeared, even though the Yanks lost.

    I think you are definitely on to something!

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Verlander not having one of his best outings. Sux leading 1-0, bases loaded and 2 outs. 3-1 count.

    Now 3-2 count.

    I’ll let you know what happens.

    Daniel Nava up.

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    SMH.

    Bases-clearing double. 4-0 Sux.

  71. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    I might be a little more demanding when it comes to respect and loyalty toward the team. But hey is that all bad?
    =====================
    but people are drawn to a train wreck
    and rubberneck at a car accident

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Think I’ll switch to my DVRd Who Wants to Be A Millionaire.

    :evil:

    Going to get some things done before our game.

    Be back in a while.

    :)

  73. jackamir May 29th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Verlander just spit the bit. 4-0 red sox. I hate those chowder heads..Ugh

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    jackamir – I hope you still trust my judgment, even though the Yanks lost last night. We know our Yanks will win more than they lose, and that they are always in it. So I’m probably always going to be seeing a positive outcome.

    :)

  75. Abomb82 May 29th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Sox are red hot now, they are going to be a pain to deal with.

  76. Jerkface May 29th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    We know our Yanks will win more than they lose

    Unless someone is predicting them to be sub .500, then duh.

  77. GreenBeret7 May 29th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    The Genius Maker May 29th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    • GreenBeret7 May 29th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    among the pitchers most like Hughes at age 25 is John Lackey (before Boston), Kyle Kendrick, Matt Harrison and ROY HALLADAY. Time is on Hughes side, except on here and in the media.
    **********
    GB7, not sure where you are getting your comps, but Harrison at the age of 25 had an ERA of 3.39 in 185 IP and Halladay was a stud at 24 and at 25 was an All Star with ERA’s of 3.16 and 2.93 respectively. So if you mean they are most like him meaning he isn’t anything like them, then you are spot on.

    I was extremely disappointed with Hughes because I had stated he was lucky in his previous 2 games as he made a lot of mistakes, they just didn’t hit well. yesterday it showed up again. Now, will he always pitch to a 9+ ERA…of course not, but I was still disappointed and at the same time he should not be removed from the rotation; that would be an awful decision at this point.

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    1.John Lackey (971)
    2.Gil Meche (970)
    3.Kyle Kendrick (970)
    4.Matt Harrison (970)
    5.Chris Knapp (966)
    6.Kip Wells (965)
    7.Mike Paxton (965)
    8.Slick Castleman (964)
    9.Roy Halladay (963)
    10.Willie Fraser (959)

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    I said AT, meant to say through age 25. Baseball-Reference

  78. The Genius Maker May 29th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Hard to have a must win game in May. As for the Yanks, I am more interested to see how Pettitte does against a solid lineup (when Pujols is back to normal). Andy will be in the rotation no matter what, but it would be great to see Andy give us a quality start. Toronto is beating baltimore now so Andy winning and being 1.5 out would make me feel really good. Gardner and Robertson coming soon and in the hunt! While jeter has done better than expected as has Ibanez and some relievers, overall, we are underperforming and are now 2.5 out…that is very encouraging

  79. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Abomb – I don’t know about red hot. They lost 2 out of 3 to the Rays. They’re 6-4 for their last 10.

    I cannot emphasize strongly enough the need to keep them in last place.

    :D

  80. jackamir May 29th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    I’m with you Trisha, Possitive things happen to possitive people.

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Bmore is certainly going through a slump.

  82. mick May 29th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    sox are going nowhere. aceves the closer? pedroia about to be out for a month?
    they are a shell of their former selves.

  83. luis May 29th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    About the FO,

    The Montero trade just forced me to evaluate their thought process and their previous moves in hindsight. Eventually, i would have come to the same conclusions. The problem i see is that i don’t think this current management is well equipped to deal with the new environment. As Blake stated, i don’t necessarily think that Cashman should go, but we need new blood and someone new at the helm. They used to cover for their blunders with money. That’s no longer the case. That’s a challenge that i don’t see Cashman being able to do.

    On Girardi, Wang’s post was very good in describing the reasons i don’t think he is the right guy to manage the team. Aside form the media, because i have no way of forming a good opinion in the subject, since i very seldom get to see him in action in front of the media. I just read, and it’s not the same thing.

  84. TheHansons May 29th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Peralta CRUSHED a homerun against Bard who just walked the next guy on 4 pitches. Feeling the Sux unraveling.

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 29th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    “I’m with you Trisha, Possitive things happen to possitive people.”

    :)

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    Detroit showing signs of life.

    Later y’all!

  86. The Genius Maker May 29th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    GB7 so “at” is before 25? I have no idea what they are measuring but at 24 Hughes had an encouraging year, but the issue is at age 25 and so far in 26 he has regressed…that is the issue. We are not comparing a 24 year old Hughes to 24 year old other pitchers, we are looking at a 26 year old who struggled through the age of 25 and is continuing that at 26…the others you are comparing to all had much better years at 25 and 26.

    Now show me how many guys struggled mightily at the age of 25 and 26 and still were successful without learning some new pitch (like a splitter) and then that would be more encouraging (I am sure there are some/plenty of late bloomers out there)

  87. luis May 29th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    The Genius Maker May 29th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Hard to have a must win game in May. As for the Yanks, I am more interested to see how Pettitte does against a solid lineup (when Pujols is back to normal). Andy will be in the rotation no matter what, but it would be great to see Andy give us a quality start. Toronto is beating baltimore now so Andy winning and being 1.5 out would make me feel really good. Gardner and Robertson coming soon and in the hunt! While jeter has done better than expected as has Ibanez and some relievers, overall, we are underperforming and are now 2.5 out…that is very encouraging

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    Last night’s game was almost a freebee, you have to take that opportunity. A game in May counts as much as one in September. It could very well mean rsting the players for the PS or not.

  88. TheHansons May 29th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    ugh

  89. jmills May 29th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    ” O.K., Blue Jays , let’s play ball ! “. :) :) :) j

  90. GreenBeret7 May 29th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Now show me how many guys struggled mightily at the age of 25 and 26 and still were successful without learning some new pitch (like a splitter) and then that would be more encouraging (I am sure there are some/plenty of late bloomers out there)

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    Koufax and Gibson at age 25…same age as Hughes is right now.

  91. jmills May 29th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Jamie moyer

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