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Rodriguez: “Sort of a less-is-more approach”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 31, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I usually don’t play this game because it almost always lacks proper context, but in this case, I think it’s an interesting comparison.

Player A: .283/.370/.424 with a .794 OPS
Player B: .299/.372/.423 with a .794 OPS

Player A, you might have guessed, is Alex Rodriguez this season. He’s hit for an average perfectly comparable to some of his all-star seasons, with an on-base percentage not far away from his career numbers. But his slugging percentage has taken an enormous hit, by far the worst of his career.

Player B is Kenny Lofton.

“If I get a night like (Tuesday) night where I’m on base four times, I’ll take that all day long,” Rodriguez said. “That is, to me, the equivalent of hitting a couple of doubles or a home run. At the end of the day, those guys behind me are very talented , and they’re going to be driving in runs.”

Hard to tell whether Rodriguez actually believes himself when he says that, but it’s certainly hard to imagine one of the game’s greatest sluggers being satisfied hitting like a leadoff man without the speed. Lofton was a perfectly good player, but he wasn’t a No. 3 hitter and he wasn’t a Hall of Famer.

“Everyone gets caught up in home runs,” Joe Girardi said. “I get caught up in runs and RBI. That’s what I get caught up in. You go out and try to swing for the fences every time and hit .200, that’s not what we want. We want him to get on base, and we want him to be productive. However that happens, I don’t care. I don’t care if it’s bloop singles with the bases loaded every time. I really don’t. I get on K-Long when guys line out. I say, ‘So?’ Bloop singles, I’ll take them.”

Of course, it’s worth noting that Rodriguez has 19 RBI and is on pace for 62, the same number he had last season when he was hurt through most of the year. When he reached base four times on Tuesday, it was on three singles and a hit by pitch. He didn’t score a run, didn’t drive in a run and the Yankees lost 5-1.

They haven’t lost a game or scored fewer than five runs when Rodriguez has homered.

“Obviously I wish I had 35 or 40 (RBI),” Rodriguez said. “That’s definitely a low number, but I’ll take nights like (Tuesday) night and keep building on that and trust that the guys in front of me will continue to get on, and those guys behind me will trust that I’ll continue to get on base for them. … I think overall, when you trust each other, that’s when your offense operates best. At the end of the day, whoever’s hitting behind — whether you walk once, twice — the more you get on base, eventually those guys are going to come up with a big hit. You’ve just got to keep giving them opportunities. That’s sort of a less-is-more approach.”

It’s a fine approach for leadoff hitters and bottom-of-the-order role players, but for Rodriguez?

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111 Responses to “Rodriguez: “Sort of a less-is-more approach””

  1. blake May 31st, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Via Taiwan Baseball, the Yankees are after 16-year-old Taiwanese shortstop Tzu-Wei Lin. They had originally agreed to sign him for $350k back in 2010, but the deal fell apart because he was too young to turn pro at the time. Bidding is expected to approach $2M this time around. “For sure we will make an offer that is higher than the current offers to get him to join the Yankees,” said Ken Su, the team’s scout in Taiwan. “Our organization has given instructions to get (Lin) at any cost.”

    MLB.com recently ranked Lin as the 18th best international free agent on the market, noting that he’s a burner from the left side of the plate with little present power but a strong arm and solid defensive skills. He’s listed at 5-foot-8 and 160 lbs., so c’mon growth spurt. It’s worth noting that Lin will be subject to the spending restrictions implemented by the new Collective Bargaining Agreement come July 2nd, so expect him to sign before then. The Yankees are a very popular team in Taiwan thanks to the success of Chien-Ming Wang, and that can only help their pursuit of Lin and other prospects.

    http://www.riveraveblues.com

    Anybody know anything additional about this dude? Jerkface?

  2. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    That’s why I think A-Rod should bat near the top of the order. If he SLG more, then move him down. I don’t understand why lineups have to be set in stone because of history.

  3. Jerkface May 31st, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    All I know is that he is a top prospect in Taiwan and the original deal fell through. Hope we get him.

  4. yankee21 May 31st, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Arod’s quotes are interesting. Bottom line though is Arod is paid serious jack to produce runs. Whether he drives them in or scores them, he needs to be a run producer, big time. No excuses, no passing the baton, he flat out needs to recognize that even at the age of 36+ he is being counted on to make things happen. He’s a smart guy and I imagine he is looking to relieve some of the self-pressure so undoubtedly he recognizes this.

  5. theREALkevin May 31st, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Can’t wait until the draft!!!! Starts on Monday.

  6. Mike in Harrisburg May 31st, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    And we’ve got him through 2017! Hopefully this contract will have been a “teachable moment” for the front office.

  7. G. Love May 31st, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Girardi contradicts himself constantly when trying to talk about the offense.

    In one breath he’s telling Tex to try to pull and hit HR’s and don’t worry about average and in this quote above he’s telling the press that hitting HR’s with a low average is not what they want.

    The sooner this guy is an ex Yankee manager the better. I’d rather he just not speak since all he’s capable of doing is spinning when he talks. He comes off very insincere for a guy who is supposedly all sincerity when he talks out of both sides of his mouth in order to keep the wolves at bay.

  8. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    It’s one of the few things Cashman got right, and given the constraints of the contract on other spending, that’s not unimportant.

  9. blake May 31st, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    “. Hope we get him.”

    Me too…….
    They need to throw as many SSs (figuratively) at the wall as they can and hope one sticks.

  10. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    It doesn’t matter what he is paid as he is here…you take the asset and make the best use of what he is. I am fine batting him 2nd and I am fine batting him 3rd or 4th as well. I think Girardi’s comment, “I get on K-Long when guys line out. I say, ‘So?’ Bloop singles, I’ll take them” is exactly the reason I don’t like him. Really Joe, do you really get on him when guys are hitting line drives?

  11. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Maybe Long is the right guy for A-Rod. Rudy Jaramillo was his guy.

  12. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    BTW, ARod should be thrilled in a game he gets 3 singles and a HBP in 5 AB’s. That is an excellent day for ANYONE and anyone his says otherwise doesn’t understand what wins in a game.

    This does not mean that ARod having an OPS of under .800 is acceptable, but getting on him for that game is silly.

  13. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    isn’t the right guy

  14. St. Pete Yankee May 31st, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    True, Lofton is not a Hall of Famer. But the reality is that Arod is no longer playing at Hall of Fame levels. True, he’s still above average, maybe even top quartile. But nowhere near what he was in his prime.

  15. Hassey May 31st, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    He’s too smart to actually believe what he is saying. It’s just that he needs to maintain the p.r. as his career winds down

  16. Tackelberry May 31st, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Guess this means they won’t be pursuing Jorge Soler then if they are gonna go all out for this kid

  17. Jerkface May 31st, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Guess this means they won’t be pursuing Jorge Soler then if they are gonna go all out for this kid

    They weren’t pursuing him from the moment it became obvious he’d require a major league deal.

  18. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    I said one month ago they should trade Granderson in the offseason for a Madison Bumgarner type pitcher, sign Melky, sign BJ Upton and move Gardner to CF until Mason Williams is ready. If Cashman can’t turn Granderson (even just one year of him) into a young starting pitcher then he is incompetent. Granderson is a huge bat coveted by many offensive starved team. He is an MVP caliber CF. Even just one year of him is worth a young pitcher.

    As far as the price of Melky, why in the world would he get more than Adam Jones? (14 million)

  19. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    I agree S P Yankee. He is probably trying to make an adjustment though from the raw power he used to have to more of a line drive hitter. He is a hard worker and I expect him to get his OPS in the low .800 OPS range.

  20. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Upton – LF
    Gardner – CF
    Melky – RF

    That’s an amazing OF

  21. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Why should we trade Granderson when we need a bat now? The logic string doesn’t make sense? Granderson has been our best player this year! Don’t give up on this year yet

  22. jackamir May 31st, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Has anyone noticed that facially Arod has aged dramatically in the past 3 months. He has lost the youthful smile and the pressure has finally got to him. I respect his knowledge of the game and his diligent work but there is something we don’t know.

  23. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    in the offseason i said.

  24. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    HgH has anti-aging properties and is a well known anti aging hormone. When you go off it, you look like the offspring of Rickey Henderson and Louis Gossett Sr.

  25. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    This Melky talk is way too premature for me guys

  26. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    Sorry Hitman I must have missed that

  27. blake May 31st, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    “Why should we trade Granderson when we need a bat now? ”

    They shouldnt now…..but they probably should at least see what they can get for him this winter…..

  28. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    at 13-15 mil he is valuable though so we really need to make a good move. That being said, if we are so budget conscious it will be tough on us, but I still am more bullish than most about the future. If I were Cashman I would say I will stay within your budget as long as you don;t cont the last 3 years of ARod’s contract you gave him that we didn’t need to give him.

  29. Jerkface May 31st, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    If I were Cashman I would say I will stay within your budget as long as you don;t cont the last 3 years of ARod’s contract you gave him that we didn’t need to give him.

    Unfortunately the luxury tax doesn’t care about what Hal forgives, and Hal only cares about the luxury tax.

    It makes sense that the Yankees would just not care about A-rod or Jeter’s deals, but with the 189 goal its a fact that they must.

  30. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Check the Washington Nationals. Granderson has 2x as many HR than their HR leader. The Nats are starved for offense, on the brink of contention and have a surplus of pitching. They also have a difficult time attracting big free agents (Werth an exception).

    How about Curtis Granderson for Jordan Zimmerman?

  31. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    I would see what I could get for almost everyone all the time if I were the GM. There are very few untouchable players as far as I am concerned. Rivera is one of them and Jeter probably is too because of the marketing aspect, but outside of that…anyone for the right price. Speaking of teh right price, I know Trisha was gushing over Soriano, but the only think I can say about him is that he has saved all 6 of his chances. That is excellent, but I am worried because his stuff is NOT filthy as quoted and he hasn’t had good control at all (walking 9 in 18 innings). His WHIP is 1.5! He has been one hit away from getting crushed in almost every game. he has looked nothing like the TB pitcher with the exception of his conversion rate…which will change if he keeps pitching this way. At 14 mil next year, I would love for him to pitch well for us and then opt out. While Robertson would get the closer job if Soriano falters, I would now put Robertson in the 8th inning role…at least until Robertson blows him away. let’s hope he pitches great, but at 14 mil I could spend that better

  32. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    George knew that spending the extra money would more than for itself in more fans (and young fans coming up) and then more people in the stands for more revenue as well as the YES network. The spending comes back with a good investment. Limiting the spending hurts the product and everything else form a revenue standpoint. George knew this and these kids who were gifted with all of this have no clue

  33. blake May 31st, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    “I would see what I could get for almost everyone all the time if I were the GM”

    I would too……seems like thats what Anthopolos does…..Id be super annoying……Id call about Justin Upton every day.

  34. blake May 31st, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    “How about Curtis Granderson for Jordan Zimmerman?”

    Id only trade him for offense

  35. ac1 May 31st, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Yankees only really need to stay under $189M in 2014 and 2015. After that, they can move back up with less penalty.

  36. RS May 31st, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    If ARod can hit 25 HR with a .370 OBP, the RBI and runs scored will be there. Check out Bobby Abreu’s stats as a Yankee, when he was an RBI and RS machine despite hitting no more than 15-20 HR a year (of course, he was sandwhiched between Jeter and ARod in their primes, so that helped too…)

    I really think Granderson needs to be moved down to a power spot in the lineup. He’s not a contact hitter and he’s not stealing bases, so there’s no need for him to bat second where most of his homeruns go for solo shots.

  37. ac1 May 31st, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    I agree Granderson should only go for offensive players or big time AAA prospects that WILL make a difference in 2013-2014.

    Also, any chance Yankees look at Matt Garza during the season?

    I know he has had a rough go in Chi this year but he is a proven winner in the AL East.

    And i think with his contract winding down in Chicago, he shouldn’t require more than two pretty good players….

  38. Jerkface May 31st, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Yankees only really need to stay under $189M in 2014 and 2015. After that, they can move back up with less penalty.

    Technically they only need to stay under for 2014. Then go back over in 2015 at reduced penalty. They just need to stay under for 14 and 15 to get the most back from the revenue sharing bit of it, but they still get some back for being under in 2014.

  39. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Blake,

    But if you add to the rotation you free up money for offense and could lock up 2 young bats in BJ Upton and Melky Cabrera. Add in Gardner and young Mason Williams. Then G. Sanchez at catcher in a few years.

    The infield is locked up.

  40. Wave Your Hat May 31st, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    The option on Granderson must be exercised and the Yanks must keep him through the end of 2013 if the Yanks plan to compete that year. Swisher won’t be back, so the Yanks will already be down a major offensive contributor. No one is going to give the Yanks a cost-controlled, good young pitcher for one year of Grandy at $13M, at least one better than the options the Yanks already have.

    If you are willing to punt 2013 and trade him for prospects that makes sense, at least as a comment to a Yankee blog, but the Yanks will never do that.

  41. ac1 May 31st, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    I really think Granderson needs to be moved down to a power spot in the lineup. He’s not a contact hitter and he’s not stealing bases, so there’s no need for him to bat second where most of his homeruns go for solo shots.

    ______

    It also doesn’t help that he never seems to get runners on in front of him. Jeter was hot, but is averaging out and our 8-9 hitters never seem to hit (even though Martin’s obp is over .320.
    When Gardner is back, there will be more guys on base in front of Grandy however I agree he and ARod should be switched. I think Girardi said no to that because why change something that works…. It’s arguble whether it is ‘working’ when Grandy has 16 homers and less than 30 rbis.

  42. mick May 31st, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Why hasn’t Joba tweeted us lately?

  43. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    I disagree.

    I think Melky, BJ Upton and Gardner plus a Jordan Zimmerman pitcher helps you compete better than Swisher, Granderson and Gardner plus no pitcher.

  44. mick May 31st, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    I really think Granderson needs to be moved down to a power spot in the lineup. He’s not a contact hitter and he’s not stealing bases, so there’s no need for him to bat second where most of his homeruns go for solo shots.
    =========================
    Joe likes it that way.

  45. mick May 31st, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Brett,
    They will not pay Melky.

  46. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Melky, BJ Upton and Gardner costs less than Swisher, Granderson and Gardner and is much younger if not equally productive or comparably productive. The difference between Melky and Swisher is about the same as the difference between Upton and Granderson. But they need to be younger and lock up bats that are young and not get stuck with another huge contract like the one Granderson will make. That and they need to add a pitcher. Can’t buy offense if you’re spending money in the rotation.

  47. mick May 31st, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    BJ Upton is a stylist.

  48. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    And I would be surprised if the Nats did not want to trade 3 years of Jordan Zimmerman for one year of Curtis Granderson and the opportunity to extend him.

  49. mick May 31st, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    All of these decisions are based on money.
    This was never an issue and will not fly in Yankeeland.
    If this team does not win people will stop coming to the park.

  50. mick May 31st, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Bret,
    Go get a Yankee internship.

  51. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    blake May 31st, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    “I would see what I could get for almost everyone all the time if I were the GM”

    I would too……seems like thats what Anthopolos does…..Id be super annoying……Id call about Justin Upton every day.
    ******

    LOL, “Uh, I saw that Upton went 0-3 last night and his bat is looking slow…so now would probably be a good time to dump him before he is worthless…”

  52. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Mick,

    Do you know why BJ Upton wears #2? Jeter’s work ethic will definitely inspire BJ Upton to find more substance to complement his style. How could you go to work every day with your idol and not pay attention to his work habits?

  53. mick May 31st, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    bret,
    I don’ t like him.
    He K’s too much, doesn’t walk, and glides too much.

  54. Bret The Hitman May 31st, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    I understand. He’s a younger, more athletic, less patient version of Nick Swisher.

  55. Wave Your Hat May 31st, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Beware of players having a career year at age 27.

  56. mick May 31st, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    there aren’t many role models left in baseball, too much money for that.

  57. mick May 31st, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    upton is a $7m ballplayer?
    that’s corrupt.

  58. ADam May 31st, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    “Less is more approach” Is Alex selling life insurance now or something?

  59. yanks 27 May 31st, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    JonHeymanCBS
    scout on nyy: “i can’t see the yankees winning with what they have.” (me: theyve surprised us before)

  60. mick May 31st, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    “I get on K-Long when guys line out.” Joe Girardi
    ===========================
    when the Son lines out or hits a foul shot we hear about it.

  61. mick May 31st, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    I understand. He’s a younger, more athletic, less patient version of Nick Swisher.
    ==================================
    who doesn’t smile.

  62. blake May 31st, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Id call about Heyward this winter if Im Cashman….the Braves are pretty flexible going forward payroll wise and they could sign Granderson if they wanted…..Granderson is better than Heyward now and the Braves will only have 3 years control of Heyward after this year…..Yanks might have to kick more in but thats the type deal Id pursue if I was going to trade him…..for a player with Super star potential who is still cheap.

    You could make that deal and sign another bat and still be around the same place payroll wise and get younger at the same time.

    Not saying the Braves would do that particular deal….just sayin if Im trading Granderson thats the type deal Im after…..or Im probably not trading him.

  63. mick May 31st, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    you can get younger but not better…it’s gonna be interesting to see what they do…we could get worse before we get better.

  64. blake May 31st, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    “you can get younger but not better…it’s gonna be interesting to see what they do…we could get worse before we get better.”

    If they traded Granderson for Heyward and then signed Melky I think theyd be better overall.

    (Melky, Gardner, Heyward) is better than (Gardner, Granderson, ghost man)…….

  65. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Blake-

    The Braves are not willing to add payroll. They haven’t even offered to start contract negotiations with FA Michael Bourn their .300 hitting speedster
    They just sent down Pastornicky the SS. Maybe the Braves would be interested in Nunez for Prado, but I’m not sure that would be a good deal for the Yankees.

    Cubs willing to talk deal with just about any player??

  66. blake May 31st, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    For the record I dont want to trade Granderson …..if it were up to me thr outfield next year woukd be Granderson, Gardner, Hamilton……but thats not happening

  67. blake May 31st, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Trader,

    The Braves only have 13 million on the books for 2014……and only 14 million for next year.

  68. yanks 27 May 31st, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    That is the problem with trading Grandy – what team is going to want to give up a young player of value AND rent Granderson with the expectation of signing him to a Jayson Werth-esque deal?

    That being said, if you do want to trade him, you would get more at the deadline so the team would have 2 cracks in the playoffs with him rather than just 1 yr in the off-season

  69. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    This is not the only link I’ve read that the Braves won’t add payroll. They are even talking about what will happen if they don’t pick up McCanns option.

    http://www.talkingchop.com/201.....-good-news

  70. blake May 31st, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    They wont add pahroll but their budget is always around 100 million and they should have some space under that….

  71. mick May 31st, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    I like Prado.
    Would they take Nunez?

  72. blake May 31st, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Id love to trade Nunez for Prado…..dont think the Braves would do that though….Nunez probably is going to have to show he can catch the ball before he will have much trade value.

  73. LGY May 31st, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Since 2009, the Yankees have morphed into the San Antonio Spurs of the late 2000s.

    Playoff material, yet exceedingly boring, aging vets, and in need of a transformation.

    The Spurs started their rebuilding before the 2009 season and Buford and Popovich have done a masterful job transforming that team. Once again they are the cream of the crop of the NBA and beautifully set up for another championship run over the next several years.

    The Yankees need to do this. Problem is they are a very rigid organization and Cash/Girardi haven’t demonstrated the type of intelligence or creativity needed to do so.

  74. GregD May 31st, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    We’re a game and a half out and everybody wants to trade our players…..hmmmmmm

  75. mick May 31st, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    they need a few singles hitters who hit in the clutch

  76. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Blake-

    Looking at Cot’s yes that is the projection. However they have FA,Bourn, and many young players to decide if they want to buy out their arb years-core players like Hanson, Freeman and Kimbrel.

    I don’t see them willing to bring in Granderson and pay him17-20M/year.

    More likely now to find a trading partner with the Cubs.

  77. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    About Soriano.

    I wish some of you would be better listeners to what I’ve attempted to say, Genius Maker. :)

    FIRST OF ALL, for everyone’s benefit, let me clear up a misconception here in terms of the lamenting about Sori never having a 1-2-3 inning.

    On May 14th, facing Baltimore, Soriano got a fly out; a strike out; Markakis reached base on a fielding error by Chavez; and Soriano got the final out, a ground out.

    If you’re going to be ridiculous enough not to recognize that as a 1-2-3 for Sori, I actually feel sorry for you.

    _____________________

    Since Soriano has taken over the role of closer, these are his stats:

    SV – 6
    WHIP – 1.17
    K/BB – 6.0

    I’ve been talking about him in the role of closer, something I thought he was being groomed for. It’s fair to make the comparison since when he came from the Rays, he had been their closer.

    I don’t care about his stats in mop up innings, in the 6th, in the 7th, or anything else. The most critical role Rafael Soriano will have for the Yankees will be in the 9th, with a lead of 3 runs or less.

    TO DATE, he has been stellar in that role.

    Now you want to talk, let’s talk apples to apples. I’ve GUSHED about him in the role in which he is best suited, at least for now. CLOSER.

    Thank you!

  78. blake May 31st, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    “We’re a game and a half out and everybody wants to trade our players…..hmmmmmm”

    No…….we are just talking big picture stuff…..dont take it out of context.

  79. Wave Your Hat May 31st, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    “We’re a game and a half out and everybody wants to trade our players…..”

    Not only that, but with three playoff appearances, two ALCS appearances and 1 WS title in the last three years many want to run Cashman out of town.

    And during the game thread last night, people were unhappy with the Yanks’ 5-run inning because they didn’t score the runs the right way, and because they don’t have 5-run innings often enough.

    Ya gotta love it.

  80. Wave Your Hat May 31st, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    “TO DATE, he has been stellar in that role.”

    trisha,

    I’d say Soriano has been successful but not stellar in that role. He still allows too many baserunenrs. Walking Callaspo in front of Pujols last night is an example.

  81. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Braves payroll is 93.5M.

    Prado is a nice player who can hit for average, but would he provide enough power to man a corner OF spot. He plays every position except Center, SS and 1st. Take Jair Jurrjens off the braves hands and yes Prado might be had. They might be willing to take Swisher to add some offense, lost with the frequent times Jones cannot play.

    Maybe Nunez and Swisher and $$$ to the Braves for Prado and Bourn. Nah!

  82. yanks 27 May 31st, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    LGY – Great analogy. The Yanks used to be the Lakers, now they’ve become the late 2000 Spurts. They seem content to just let the flame of the glory days die out, trying to squeeze every last drop from it, feeling as though they won’t be able to modify it enough to keep it going.

    Spurs were at that point too, looking like their window was well closed and they’d just ride out the remaining years with Duncan and go into full rebuilding and start from scratch in a few years, but still be competitive in decline, though not serious championship material. Now? Duncan, the key to their dynasty, is basically a role player and they are better than ever.
    Exciting, fun, and extended a window that was supposed to end 3 years ago.

    Yankees need to not rely on the old guard to carry them and infuse new young talent and change the way they do things. Yanks seem content to let their flame burn out rather than rekindling it. Cashman in no way has shown he can do that. Without money, he is a nonfactor as a GM.

  83. UnKnown May 31st, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    WYH –

    Don’t bother someone just wants a cookie. “See see I told you all” “Na na a boo boo”

    Sad Stuff. Some people never grow out of that immature phase I am afraid.

  84. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    And YEAH his stuff is filthy! In the 9th. Closing. Where the heck he belongs!

  85. AZ88 May 31st, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    “The Yankees need to do this. Problem is they are a very rigid organization and Cash/Girardi haven’t demonstrated the type of intelligence or creativity needed to do so.”

    Yep.

    Honestly, as much as it pains me to say it, the only thing separating the Yankees from the Knicks is the uncapped nature of baseball.

    Even when Cashman tries to be creative, like the Pineda trade, he fails miserably by trading the wrong piece for the wrong player. Unless he has the authority to sign Hamels and Hamilton this winter, I shudder to see the team’s plan for next season

  86. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    WYH-

    Just a few of us looking at offseason deals.

    Trisha-
    Soriano has done his job, much like Wetteland did when he was a Yankee. He makes you nervous.-well maybe not you, just me! :)

  87. Jerkface May 31st, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    In the 9th. Closing. Where the heck he belongs!

    He was able to pitch effectively without needing exclusive rights to the 9th before that 1 season in Tampa, so I don’t think that is an excuse for him.

  88. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    The Yankees bullpen might have the 2nd lowest ERA in the AL, but lately they have allowed inhereted runners to score, charged to the starters. Hopefully DRob will come back with no recurrent oblique or other issues. Might get Aardsma early in July.

    Speed kills………………..the opposing team. The night before last, Tex leads off the ninth with a single in a tie game. How nice it would be if either Gardner or Nunez were available to run for him.

  89. Jeremy May 31st, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Cashman without the money is a non factor. Even with the money he is highly overrated. I still see this team getting bounced in the first round if they make it. They have guys who are incompetent in the clutch with RISP and a suspect rotation. They won’t stand a chance in a short series especially against a powerhouse like Texas.

    I wish we could trade Cashman away for the Gm in Texas.

  90. Nilsson May 31st, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    So, the Yanks used to be the Lakers. Now they’re more like the Spurs. Oh wait, they’re really the Knicks in disguise. Tomorrow, it could be the Celtics. Must be the NBA playoffs.

  91. charlestonchew May 31st, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    I don’t see why Girardi hasn’t moved Granderson down.

    Jeter
    Rodriguez
    Granderson
    Cano
    Teixeira
    Swisher
    Ibanez
    Jones/Chavez
    Martin

    Nothing wrong with A-Rod hitting second in this lineup.

  92. Wave Your Hat May 31st, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    “So, the Yanks used to be the Lakers. Now they’re more like the Spurs. Oh wait, they’re really the Knicks in disguise. Tomorrow, it could be the Celtics. Must be the NBA playoffs.”

    It’s the Stanley Cup finals. How come no hockey analogies? What is hockey, some kind of second class sport or something?

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    By the way, in case it isn’t evident, UNKNOWN has taken over the role of stalker.

    Notice how he attempts to bait by taking little shots at everything I post or posting things that are apparent references to me. He reminds me of the guy walking down the street ranting and raving to nobody in particular, the kind where you cross the street long before the guy reaches you.

    All because I kept cheering on the Yanks and believing in them even when the chips were down. That and maybe thinking Girardi’s a good manager?

    Who knows. But he sure has flipped out!

    :)

    **************

    Wave – is Mariano stellar? If so, by definition, so is Soriano.

  94. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Robertson out until mid June, at the earliest.

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....-mid-june/

  95. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    “He was able to pitch effectively without needing exclusive rights to the 9th before that 1 season in Tampa, so I don’t think that is an excuse for him.”

    No, but pitching in the Bronx, with the animal fans and media, just might be.

    No matter. He figured it out.

  96. Wave Your Hat May 31st, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    “Wave – is Mariano stellar? If so, by definition, so is Soriano.”

    I’m not following you, trisha. Soriano rhymes with Mariano, sorta, but that’s about it.

  97. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Wave, well that might have been a bit hasty.

    What I was trying to say is that Mo gives up hits and runs too.

    But there is no comparison between Mo and anyone, so I will retract that.

  98. Wave Your Hat May 31st, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    “But there is no comparison between Mo and anyone, so I will retract that.”

    Accepted. Soriano needs to continue his good results, but please, So, no more walking guys in front of Pujols.

  99. UnKnown May 31st, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    —–

    That’s a pretty strong accusation. Don’t flatter yourself. Your not that important.

    Probably better check yourself before making claims about others on here. Besides there is enough other posters that call you out on your B.S. This blog doesn’t need me doing it.

  100. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    New Post on the minor leaguers—>

  101. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Hang on just a minute Wave. I may have some exculpatory information.

    ;)

  102. mick May 31st, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    pitching in the Bronx, with the animal fans
    ==========================
    please explain animal…

  103. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Unknown – you have turned into a total freak. You are obssessed with my posts now. You’re actually childish in the things you post however, like a scorned lover or something because I blow you off and laugh at your idiocy.

    “Besides there is enough other posters that call you out on your B.S. ”

    Aha!

    See ya now punko.

    Oh yeah – the offer to tape pre and postgames during the playoffs is still open for you. Short memory. I don’t know what your issue is and personally I don’t care. But at least now you’ve been exposed.

  104. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    mick – will explain in a while. Real life happening.

    Later.

  105. UnKnown May 31st, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Unknown – you have turned into a total freak. You are obssessed with my posts now. You’re actually childish in the things you post however, like a scorned lover or something because I blow you off and laugh at your idiocy.

    “Besides there is enough other posters that call you out on your B.S. ”

    Aha!

    See ya now punko.

    Oh yeah – the offer to tape pre and postgames during the playoffs is still open for you. Short memory. I don’t know what your issue is and personally I don’t care. But at least now you’ve been exposed.

    ———

    Oh so now I’m a Stalker, Freak, and Punk. Way to keep it classy.

    Wow what a Classic Meltdown. Very Predictable.

  106. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Trisha, that was a good and fair retort! Fair enough, he has been good since he took over the closers role…do you think he is better when in that role compared to the mop up role or was it just a coincidence? i also would not exclude a time where he might not be used in a save role (but I think you were including his 1 hit in 1/3 of an inning anyway).

    My only comment is you still said he had filthy stuff…I don’t agree with that

  107. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    I think you’ve lost it. Don’t know if you have problems in your real life, but you’re definitely not the poster I remember. However, I haven’t changed a whit and I don’t ever remember you having problems with me before. If Yankee losses affect you dramatically or if you’re having trouble with the trade (don’t know where you stack up on it), that’s not my problem, nor will it change my rooting style.

    There’s nothing classy about the things you’ve said about me over the past two days.

    A good idea is to post to other people and stop taking shots, veiled or otherwise, at everything I post.

  108. Marcus May 31st, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Does any really believe that Melky will keep this up?

  109. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    “My only comment is you still said he had filthy stuff…I don’t agree with that”

    See I think he has filthy stuff but he is so understated that it doesn’t appear filthy! Kind of like Robby making plays in the field that seem so routine but are really spectacular!

    DRob has filthy stuff, IMO, but his style is so dynamic that it screams out at you.

    Make sense?

  110. The Genius Maker May 31st, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    new post >

  111. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 31st, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Wave, well, it was his only walk in 6 innings. So it was an aberration. Only thing I can tell you besides that he got Pujols to ground out – except we know what happened with the ground out.

    :)


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