Hughes outpitches Verlander as Yankees win series finale
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 03, 2012 
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This morning Derek Jeter joked that the Yankees might never score again. Then he hit a leadoff home run to set the stage for today’s 5-1 win in the Yankees series finale against the Tigers. The Yankees went 6-3 on this road trip, finishing it with an impressive win against Justin Verlander who allowed all five Yankees runs. The American League’s defending Cy Young winner was outpitched by Phil Hughes, who rebounded quickly from a rocky start in Anaheim to pitch a complete game, allowing one run on four hits. It was the first nine-inning complete game of his career. Jeter and Alex Rodriguez each homered off Verlander, while Robinson Cano and Mark Teixeira added an RBI apiece.
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Oh Besty! Where are you?
Good for phil. He takes a lot of heat from us on here. Good for him!
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughes!
Ah, a postgame where I can just sit back and enjoy every second of it.
Must be a hair thing.
TheStraw June 3rd, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Nice Phinish!
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Indeed.
Just saw the result on my phone. CG. Wow.
“darbodla June 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Betsy enjoying that baked crow?”
“darbodla June 3rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Oh Besty! Where are you?”
“darbodla April 25th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Well, one thing seems to be fairly obvious. The Yankees don’t do a great job developing pitchers commensurate with what financial and organizational resources they have. For every Ivan Nova there seems to be plenty Joba’s and Hughes — and Banuelos and Betances although still young and in the minors don’t seem to be progressing like everyone hoped. Drag.”
I’m sure you are the master Chef at baked Crow. Go away troll.
darbodla June 3rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Oh Besty! Where are you?
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Go away WCRSF.
And for a little symmetry, top of the 9th in Toronto, 2 out, Jays 5-1.
Hughes was simply great today.
He’s made some adjustments since early in the season, including pitching inside much more and not only adding several mph to his curve ball but also spotting it better out of the zone.
He’s gaining confidence in his fastball as the season goes on, there is no reason why he can’t duplicate this performance on a more than occasional basis from this point forward.
Last year’s disaster of a season is just a distant memory at this point in time.
A 6-3 road trip that consisted of a six game west coast swing, and then traveling all the way back to Detroit is pretty impressive. Not to mention, in two of our losses… we had the game winning run on third base in the 9th inning in but failed to score. 6-3 is great, knowing that we played well enough to go 8-1 has got to make you feel really good.
A stellar, superlative, start for Phil Hughes. 1st CG after 53 games for the Yankees.
Kudos to Phil 4 hitter, 8 punchouts.
Nothing like it when you beat the best pitcher in AL!!
Laughing at Tar and LGY.
Tabbert-
Yes…..I believe the Yanks will have a very successful June.
darbodla June 3rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Oh Besty! Where are you?
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What does she have to do with this?
Sux lose.
Jete was correct, the Yanks have scored again.
He leads by example.
1st pitch HR will do that…
RadioKev,
Did you see him smooth down his hair after he struck Cabrera in the 8th?
trisha,
I knew that Anaheim would be trouble for Phil. Otherwise, this has been a great stretch for him.
Has Hughes turned a corner?
This has to be his best game in years…. Maybe he is finally starting to figure it out.
Tabbert June 3rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Perfect post, perfect perspective. Now off to enjoy the postgame.
Sux back in the basement all’s right with the world.
Yankee Trader June 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Missed the middle innings.
YF-Watching game on MLB.TV same as you.
Let Phil go out to at least pitch to Cabrera.
GB-
When is the last time Cano, A-Rod, and Tex had an RBI each in the same game?-The comeback in Fenway?
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Well, no wonder I didn’t remember that. It was 2 months ago. I can’t remember yesterday’s game.
darbodla June 3rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Laughing at Tar and LGY.
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It appears the joke is on you WCDB. Get lost.
Confirmed – Toronto win – 2nd straight stellar performance by 21 year old Hutchison – negative, Encarnacion hit on the hand , status unknown . Have a superlative evening!
Big, big win! Hughes needs to use this to turn his season around. Also ARod and Cano getting big hits — great way to end the road trip. Now let’s carry it over against the Rays!
“I knew that Anaheim would be trouble for Phil. Otherwise, this has been a great stretch for him.”
mel, fantastic.
And happy you’re back for the balance!
Young Master Hughes !!!!!
Like I said earlier, I’ll take Hughes 5 of last 6 starts from Hughes or anybody every time.
1 1/2 behind Rays as they head to town……a meaningful series coming up, at least for June anyway…
“What does she have to do with this?”
Nothing. He’s a troll, who also likes to bully women. Has been banned once but apparently he likes to hang around places he’s not wanted.
“Sux back in the basement all’s right with the world.”
Really WCYF has something to say about that.
“darbodla May 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 am
The Yankees are a last place team. Anyone want to take issue with that?”
No Phil haters today!
“Confirmed – Toronto win – 2nd straight stellar performance by 21 year old Hutchison – negative, Encarnacion hit on the hand , status unknown . Have a superlative evening!”
jmills – CONGRATULATIONS!!! So happy for your Jays. Hopefully they’re back on a good run!
My faith in Hughes wained during parts of this season, this was great to see. He had that great spring training too, you just know that this stuff is in him.
HOWEVER, the Tigers haven’t been lighting the world on fire. They do have a losing record, so still take it with a grain of salt.
NYDN remnants. ROFL!
Adam Warren with a 7 inning 5 hit complete game shutout with no walks and 6 strikeouts, for Scranton. 90 pitches, 60 strikes. 8 groundouts, 2 flyouts.
I don’t care what Leland or the standings say. The Tigers lineup is tough when you have Cabrera and Fielder. Great job today by Phil.
Great day for Phil Hughes and the Yankees.
The season has promise.
Go Yankees
Corbin Joseph had his 2nd AAA homer.
yanks should sign hughes before he gets good.
it’ll be too late then to get him for a good price.
they need to take a chance while it’s still up in the air what his career will be.
Nah, Hughes had good stuff today. You could see his progression on his fb. Threw a beauty to Cabrera that moved away for the swinging K. Was still hitting 93, 94 late and jamming guys inside.
RadioKev June 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
My faith in Hughes wained during parts of this season, this was great to see. He had that great spring training too, you just know that this stuff is in him.
HOWEVER, the Tigers haven’t been lighting the world on fire. They do have a losing record, so still take it with a grain of sa
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That’s fair
I think Phil has finally figured it out. First it was, pitch like you are coming out from the bullpen. Then it was I’ve got to slow it down. Then it was I’ve got too mix up my pitches more. Way to put together a master game plan today.
Well Phil- you earned the bragging rights amongst CC and Hiroki for outdoing them in Detroit, and IMO you just pitched the best game so far this season amongst any Yankee starter. Striking out the best hitter in AL since Manny is no easy feat.-and you did it twice!!
white sox look funny in red pinstriped uni’s
Hughes still throwing 93 in the 9th is pretty impressive. I thought of his off season training and how that must help. That is the best he has looked since early 2010.
How does anyone find a way to denigrate Hughes’ start? SMH. And as per Joe, Hughes is pitching inside and moving the ball around. PLus got to love that over 111 pitches, he sat almost 93 with the FB and close to 76 with the CB. This isn’t a sudden occurrence, but an evolution that has been going on since ST.
“Really WCYF has something to say about that.
“darbodla May 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 am
The Yankees are a last place team. Anyone want to take issue with that?””
LMAO!!!
I’m surprised that “TheBigOut” didn’t speedskate here with “muwarriors” in his wind, chastising posters for cracking on “darbodla” for always getting it wrong.
Betsy is a Hughes fan, always has been
Trying to find a positive from a negative.
If Pineda doesn’t get hurt, we probably don’t see Phil’s CG today. The Yankees were almost forced to stick with him. Hope they remember and take that into account re: Nova.
Hitting with RISP: 1 for 11. Ugh.
3.6 era over past 6 games….and that includes the 7 runs he have up to the angels last week. Keep it up, Phil.
Tar…….I actually felt it was Nova as the odd man out had Pineda not been lost due to being injured………I still have concerns about Nova’s forearm / elbow tendon
GB-
It looks like Mitchell has had 3 rough outings in a row, same for Whitley, and Whelan was rocked his last relief appearance.
If the Yankees drop one of their current relievers before Robertson is ready, who should the Yankees bring up from the minors
“The Yankees were almost forced to stick with him.”
yeah, i remember at his low point this year some lohud posters saying they were through with him.
now they are saying ” go phil”.
and they weren’t the trolls.
everytime i tuned in hughes seemed to be throwing fastballs. anyone have a count of the varius pitches he threw?
Tyler Austin singles in Mason Williams in the 1st inning.
“yeah, i remember at his low point this year some lohud posters saying they were through with him.
now they are saying ” go phil”.
and they weren’t the trolls.”
What should THEY be saying? SCREW HUGHES! YOU STINK?
What a riot.
Pat M
Early on Phil was scuffling and Nova was winning. Once they put Phil in the pen, there would have been no turning back, ala Joba.
Now if they had sent one of them to AAA, that’s a different story. Not sure they would have done that though.
Tar, developing pitching means sticking with the pitchers through their growing pains. Nova is too good a pitcher for the Yankees not to give him some rope. Right now, he just has to regain his fastball command and good things will happen. But like all young pitchers who will still have some ups and downs. Just have to stay with him.
Randy, I believe 97 FB, 18 CB, 5 changes, 1 cutter?
Pat M and Tar-
Nova would not be able to pitch without discomfort if he still was bothered with a forearm strain.
However, if it’s true that the Yankees had discussions with the Nats involving Edwin Jackson, then I think, had that trade been made, Nova was going to be sent down to work on his mechanics/location.
Thoughts?
If we rounded up all the people who had negative things to say about various Yankees when they were at their low points, the forum would shut down. There would be nobody left here. You included.
GB, thanks for reminding me; I need to tune in to the RiverDogs game.
YT, not true about Mitchell. He had a great last outing, tired in the 7th.
“Nova is too good a pitcher for the Yankees not to give him some rope. Right now, he just has to regain his fastball command and good things will happen. But like all young pitchers who will still have some ups and downs. Just have to stay with him.”
Nova himself said that he believes that it is mental at this point and he has to find a way through it.
I agree.
Randy, yes, just check, those were the totals, as per pitchfx. Mostly fastballs, plus good to see that he got 3 whiffs on CB.
YF-
Did he[Mitchell] give up all three runs in the 7th?
I was looking at these stats:
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats.....pid=543551
And Joe Girardi lives to see another day! Brian Cashman too.
Great night, everyone. The Yanks ride back to the Stadium should be a very pleasant one.
“Just have to stay with him.”
YF
No doubt, QFT. I was about to say that its a hard thing for the Yankees to do.
But the reality is, Phil has gotten plenty of chances to succeed. Its just that at the beginning of the year I felt Phil was real close to losing his spot, I’m just glad he seems to have put all that behind him.
YT, yes 3 in the 7th, the third given up by Bulger (inherited run). He was pretty unhittable through 6.
YF-
Who would you bring up if:
righty Eppley is released?
Or lefty Rapada?
How much longer are the Yankees going to let Garcia grow mold in the bullpen?
Trade him without his consent after June 15th for a very low minor leaguer, paying the bulk of his remaining $4M, or just release him now and get someone up from the minors who might actually be able to help.
YF-
Thanks for the info on Mitchell. I just looked at his last 3 games pitched-6 runs-6 runs-3 runs in a total of 17 innings.
YT, you mean once DRob is back? I’d bring up DJ if we are just talking about big club’s needs, but I would be concerned about DJ not getting enough reps. He really needs to keep pitching. And his sinker has a ton of movement, so don’t want him to grow rusty and lose FB command from lack of use.
Warren, on the other hand, is still working on FB command and his secondary pitches. I’d keep him down in SWB. But could see him out of bullpen down the road.
Sanchez with a 3rd inning RBI single
YT, And the two games before that Mitchell gave up only 3 R in 13 IPs, so sss doesn’t say much. Plus, I never just look at runs given up. Very untelling stat.
GB, good to know; keep getting sidetracked from watching. What kind of hit?
Yankee Trader June 3rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
GB-
It looks like Mitchell has had 3 rough outings in a row, same for Whitley, and Whelan was rocked his last relief appearance.
If the Yankees drop one of their current relievers before Robertson is ready, who should the Yankees bring up from the minors
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I prefer Whitley, but, Whelan has probably earned the shot based on last year and this year. I’m waiting on Burawa to get started. He and Flannery will make the AA version of Soriano/Rivera. As soon as Montgomery moves up, he’ll be the Robertson.
Tar, “plenty of chances” but deserving of more, considering circumstances (health, fatigued arm), stuff, and progress made.
“If we rounded up all the people who had negative things to say about various Yankees when they were at their low points, the forum would shut down. There would be nobody left here. You included.”
actually i don’t have opinions and run my mouth about every player.
i pick my spots.
and if i did run my mouth and was wrong, i’d know enough to STFU when the player proved me wrong
for what it’s worth, i thought at the beginning of the year that hughes would have a good year and then at his low, i thought they should sign him cheap and send him to the minors for as long as it took to get him back on track.
i thought he was worth the commitment and i still do.
the yankees are the ones right now leaving him out there unsigned for the future.
signing hughes is something for fans to either jump on the bandwagon or not.
now is the time and not when he gets good.
of course i could be wrong .
we’ll see.
yankeefeminista June 3rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
GB, good to know; keep getting sidetracked from watching. What kind of hit?
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hard ground ball up the middle.
GB, the real bullpen types like Whelan, if he is commanding his FB, would be preferable for one inning types. But depends on what they want the pitcher for. If dumping Freddy and adding a long man then obviously DJ makes sense.
Tar……..I was all in for Hughes to go down to AAA Ball rather than dooming his career by going to the pen……Although it helped the club win in 09, I still believe that it yo-yo’d His career and set in back 3 years…….
Randy, there’s a huge difference between discussing what a player needs to do to succeed and how that can be accomplished and saying something negative about a player without any constructive feedback. These things always or at least often get conflated here.
” I believe 97 FB, 18 CB, 5 changes, 1 cutter?”
yankee feminista-
thanks. that’s some nice fastball command . his fastball must have been moving to throw so many and have them not hit much solid.
GB, thanks.
Phil phinally phinds his phastball.
I’m so damn happy.
randy, it was moving and he was working both sides of the plate. Fastball up was working very well too. Very nice start.
Williams is 2-3 with an RBI double
This was the real deal today, a hugh step, a decent line up on the road against Verlander.
Phil must be ecstatic.
yankeefeminista-
i’ve always been a fan of hughes but almost always have been against the way the yankees have developed him.
i think hughes needs to be signed by the yankees and by cashman to make his plan mean something. i feel like he needs to put his money where his mouth is. if hughes can be developed successfully and signed for a fair price for the future cashman will have accomplished something.
if hughes gets to expensive and leaves that’s not really a win for cashman. it;s better than hughes being a total failure, but young pitchers walking away because of money doesn’t make sense.
i just feel like hughes is the place to double down on and take a chance.
“i thought he was worth the commitment and i still do.
the yankees are the ones right now leaving him out there unsigned for the future.”
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Anyone that follows the Yankees know they do not sign ANY player to an extension during the season, so Phil will have to wait until his contract is up, just like all the other players have done.
It’s a shame all these genius baseball minds are being wasted on a blog.
I could only follow the game intermittently today, checking the score, but was able to see the final inning. I just want to congratulate Phil Hughes on a fantastic game today. And I am so happy that Girardi allowed him to try to get the complete game and that he got it.
I think it’s time for people (myself included) to realize that it takes a lot longer for most pitchers to develop and it’s premature to say that the Yankees can’t develop pitchers. Sure, there are some phenoms who do it lickety-split. And perhaps we thought Hughes was in that category.
But today’s not a day for that. It’s a day to celebrate a great step in Phil Hughes’ development!
Randy, I agree. And Hughes continues to be the poster boy for the revamped farm. The first pitcher we were going to develop and see succeed. I haven’t wavered on him, and I think we will be rewarded. I am all in.
Another line drive RBI single to left by Austin
Chad, are you going to do a draft preview???
randy, what’s your thinking on Robinson Cano? Do you think they should trade him? If so, when?
” I believe 97 FB, 18 CB, 5 changes, 1 cutter?”
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That’s terrible – Because some self described baseball knowledgeable posters have said a SP can’t be successful throwing 2 quality pitches, no less be a predominately a 1 pitch SP.
Hi, Villa. Agree about Joe G. staying with Hughes through 9. Props to Joe.
A great day for Phil Hughes, and the Yankees. Let’s hope the success continues for both.
Have a great day, later y’all.
Johnny Damon on the paternity DL.. You got to be kidding me, He’s 45yrs. old and an inspiration to us seniors. All the best Johnny D.
on another note, it’s kind of crazy how chris sale has 10 innings pitched in the minors and is doing so well starting this year with the white sox.
2.34 era in 10 starts
hasn’t given up more than 3 runs any start.
looks like jerkfaces kind of pitcher- limited minor league experience
3 of those 5 changeups were thrown to Fielder in the first inning.
Charleston had the makings of a bigger 4th inning when the #9 hitter, Nick McCoy had his 2nd hit. thrown out at the plate with 2 outs after Austin’s RBI single and sanchez on deck. obviously, Nick is not the real one.
I heard Suzyn Waldman on the radio saying that Hughes said he wants to be like CC. He wants to be the guy giving 7, 8 and 9 innings a game. I thought that was pretty cool.
Also love watching Yankees on Deck.
As long as Hughes doesn’t weigh 290 pounds like sabathias. Sabathia is just BIG. Hughes is good size…not BIG.
” Because some self described baseball knowledgeable posters have said a SP can’t be successful throwing 2 quality pitches, no less be a predominately a 1 pitch SP.”
i doubt hughes can always do that with two pitches. it’s nice when he can.
i was surprised when there’d be 5-6 fastballs in a row today and sometimes three in a row in the same location. i don’t think hughes can always get away with that. he must have had his good movement today. but what does he do when he doesn’t have it?
i think he’s going to need that third pitch in those situations where he doesn’t have his good stuff.
CC is a big man! LOL
That reminds me of those old Subway commercials starring CC and Johan Santana. Man, time flies.
Randy, Sale’s stuff looked pretty filthy today. He threw some nasty sliders and a ton of changeups to go with his 2-seamer.
“randy, what’s your thinking on Robinson Cano? Do you think they should trade him? If so, when?”
little nicky is so cute when he tries to set up his bird trap with the string and stick .
Baseball has gotten what they wanted. Parity. There are now super teams this year. Baseball always needed at least 1 super team in each league. They draw fans at home and on the road so they can see somebody knock them off.
Hughes won’t be able to get away with two pitches too often. Depends on how good his FB is and who he is facing. Against KC, he threw 20 changeups. That pitch has come a long way.
“Sale’s stuff looked pretty filthy today. He threw some nasty sliders and a ton of changeups to go with his 2-seamer.”
yeah, i was watching some of that game. that’s why i looked up his minor league record and saw only 10 innings in the minors.
jerkface does swear that the good ones don’t need to learn in the minors. sae would back his argument up if he stays good. something to watch.
I agree with randy i.
Hughes is about to break out.
His confidence in beating the tigers,and verlander will blow up.
I just wish he would throw more changeups for the days he will need them.
A changeup is a pitchers best friend.
So show of hands who thought Hughes would outpitch Verlander today and do so in CG 4 hitter fashion? You can’t figure baseball Susyn……
one of the more enjoyable games to watch of the season….Hughes was great….moving the fastball all over the zone and actually was fooling guys with his curveball….hitters were reading fastball out of his hand and swinging at curveballs in the dirt! So good to see…..fastball command…..better curveball…..a few change ups….and virtually no cutters that I saw.
Better approaches at the plate…..just a fun game all the way around…..great road trip…..Ill take 6-3 every time
Aside from a couple of innings to begin the game against the Angels in his last start…..Hughes has been pretty darn good for like 5 starts in a row now.
Props to you randy, you figured out that sometimes it’s smarter to wave a white flag.
blake June 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
So show of hands who thought Hughes would outpitch Verlander today
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He usually pitches well when his back is against the wall.
“Hughes won’t be able to get away with two pitches too often. Depends on how good his FB is and who he is facing. Against KC, he threw 20 changeups. That pitch has come a long way.”
it can be clever to not throw a pitch sometimes for most of a game. teams don’t know what to expect. but if hughes has the change up as a good third pitch it’s got to help.
having a third pitch gives the catcher so much more to work with in setting up hitters.
Also hope today gets Alex going….he absolutely murdered that HR on the inner half of the plate in old school Arod fashion….and had another good swing as well…..he can still be really productive I think and I’m waiting on him to break out….I think he’s got a lot left in the tank provided good health
Hughes throw any cutters today? I didn’t see any…..just a lot of good fastball command….good downward plane….harder and better curveball……and a few CU’s to give hitters something else to think about…..
I said it a bunch of times.
If hughes develops a good changeup,he will carve the league up.
Hughes will be fine with 3 pitches…..his CU is good enough now to be that 3rd pitch…..his keys are fastball command and a usefull breaking ball…..he had fastball command today….was on top of the ball and had a useful breaking ball that helped keep guys off his fastball…..when you can get hitters to read your curveball as a fastball out of the hand then it opens your game up so much…..and Hughes had that today about as well as I’ve ever seen it from him…..he still threw some clunkers…..but overall it was better and harder than it’s been in the past………
One of the main things I am happy about with Hughes is his ability to maintain his velocity right now. As others have said even in the 9th inning he was throwing hard. Last year he had bigtime trouble at times maintaining his velocity and man he did not have issues with that today. And his secondary stuff is improved right now.
Just found out that Brett Gardner’s dad played in the Minor Leagues for the Phillies. Never knew that.
Another thing pretty obvious in this series was how bad Detroits defense is…..it’s going to hurt them
Color me pinstripes! Just leavin the jersey shore and saw thw score. Very solid win. Makes last nite a bit easier to take. Enjoy the rest of the day all.
hughes has the makings of a solid change-up and the curve is getting tighter. If he can get somebody to show him how to get more movement on his fastball, he’ll be just fine. a 4 seam fastball that’s moves down or left and right would be good. If he could get a good two seamer at 93 or 94 would be fine, too.
blake, Hughes threw one cutter–to Miggy in his last AB.
You know when a hitter sits on a pitch, gets it, and hammers it.
That describes the whole Angels line- vs Hughes especially from the stretch.
I can understand a couple of guys, but that whole line-up murders him. The last game 5 out of the 9 hitters had multiple hits. The other 4 each had 1 hit. Bad day for Phil or ????
But today magically he’s better!
YF,
almost think that’s too many…..he doesn’t need it. He did a great job with Miggy…..
Well I was wrong in the amount of hits per player, looked at the whole game, but 11 hits in 5 innings is still really bad.
blake, he did do a great job with him. And thankfully at least Miggy only fouled off the cutter…
Also want to credit Joe for letting Hughes finish that game…..you could tell he was getting ansy over there and I thought when Young got the hit he woukd make the move…..but he didnt and you could tell it meant a lot to Phil…..hopefully that boosts his confodence and he will continue to build….he threw 120 pitches and didnt die….it can be done.
Just woke up to see that we won. Not surprised we beat Verlander because we’ve done it before, and he’s had some clunkers already, but I AM surprised Phil did so well. GREAT NEWS.
Was watching the TBS broadcast of the game instead of YES. Thankful for it, but that’s beside the point. For those watching TBS, did you also notice when the camera picked up on the animated conversation Joe had with Larry, right after Delmon got the hit in the 9th.
I think Joe was ready to pull Hughes at that moment, but it seemed Larry was emphatic about letting Hughes face Boesch. It was funny.
Alex has 9 homers this year and two of them have been off Verlander.
didn’t see or hear even one pitch today, which only happens about every 5 years
sounds like I missed a clean, enjoyable game
hard to believe we took 2 of 3 against a Tigers team that is much better (“on paper”) than the recent Tigger teams that have turned Tiger Stadium into an offensive house of horrors for the Yanks
Anyoen doubt that Leyland will win the division this year anyway?
“I think Joe was ready to pull Hughes at that moment, but it seemed Larry was emphatic about letting Hughes face Boesch. It was funny.”
Thats what it looked like…joe looked like he was about to have a panic attack waiting for Phil’s arm to fall off every pitch after 115.
Would have been very happy with a 6-3 road trip before we set out. Could and should have been better had we just got the one big hit in game one in Anaheim and game two in Detroit but didn’t think we had much chance of beating Verlander today so I’m trying to focus on the positive rather than the negative. Big week coming up with the Rays and Mets coming to the Stadium. Hope we start firing on all cylinders now because the AL East is still very much wide open.
Did Jeter say something to Cano after the nonchalant throw to 1st base?
Thats what it looked like…joe looked like he was about to have a panic attack waiting for Phil’s arm to fall off every pitch after 115.
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Then some schmuck runs out on the field and delays the game for 5 mins.
Then Joe runs out to the mound a la Terry Collins in the Santana no no , almost between camera shots, to see how he felt.
Later Joe said he told Phil it was his last batter.
“Alex has 9 homers this year and two of them have been off Verlander.”
Maybe Arod needs the opposing pitcher to supply some of the juice?
Only game Yanks really werent close to winning was the Hughes start vs thr Angels…..could have easily been an 8-1 road trip…….ilk take 6-3 every time though…..take care of business vs the Rays and they can be in 1st by thursday.
“Maybe Arod needs the opposing pitcher to supply some of the juice?”
Maybe….but I think hes probably got more left in the tank than folks give him credit for
…if he play 140 I think he will get his 30 homers and 100 RBIs with an OPS north of .875…..
the rest of this month will be fun and we will run off a bunch of wins vs TB,Mets,Atl, Wash, Atl,mets,cleve and chw, tb and rs then ASB.
would 20-11 be accurate?
This is what developing quality starters often looks like. They need to stay the course and stop the bullpen diversion.
20-11 would be great and is doable…..
20-11 would be 2 wins in each of the 10 series coming up.
winning 9 of them and splitting 4 w/ chw.
something like that…
If guys pitch the way they can then they have enough pitching both this year and for the future …..Id love to see them sign Hamels but there is much more hope and solutions on the horizon pitching wise than offensively ……which is why the last thing they need to do is panic and over pay for a starter this summer…..if they are going to trade for something let it be offense.
who is coming off the payroll next year?
Austin is 3-4 with 3 RBI and a homer.
who is coming off the payroll (Swisher, Martin, Pettitte, Kuroda) only really matters for 2013. Longer term contracts will still be an issue.`
Austin is making a mockery of the Sally
Anyoen doubt that Leyland will win the division this year anyway?
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White Sox look like a better club pitching and hitting-wise.
Tiger lineup is weak.
Pettitte and Kuroda should be back.
The issues that have to be confronted are fairly soon are: do they want to give Cano what could be a contract of 8 years or more, and do they want to pay Granderson until his late 30s.
The more I think about it, the less appealing that is because of the risk.
They will prolly not negotiate w/ Cano till after next season.
Looks like Halladay’s injury will likely make him a free agent after 2013 instead of 2014.
mick June 3rd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Pettitte and Kuroda should be back.
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Wouldn’t mind seeing that happen.
same w/ grandy…both get 15m next year
how could they extend either of them w/ 2014 being the year of 189?
they will use that as their bargaining chip that winter.
both have 15m team options for next year.
“Looks like Halladay’s injury will likely make him a free agent after 2013 instead of 2014.”
Depends on if they want to pick up the option…..the injury does make it non guaranteed though most likely from what it looks like.
Great game by Hughes. Hope he gets on a roll.
Blake
It’s a vesting option so Halladay automatically becomes a FA if the conditions aren’t met.
Would the Yankees take a flier on Doc?
I would be concerned about the innings on Halladay’s arm.
*$20,000,000 $20M Vesting Option option vests with 225 IP in 2013, 415 IP in 2012-2013 and player not on DL at end of 2013
Earliest Free Agent: 2014
halladay
forget the 415 IP
LGY,
Right but does the club still hold the option if they arent met? On cots it just says that the 2014 option becomes guaranteed if all requirements are met……one of which is he has to throw 415 innings between 2012 and 2013…….thats the one in jeopardy
Hughes really looked great today. One mistake but he already had a nice lead and really rebounded well. Jeter’s homerun was huge… it really set the table for the game and got the Yanks going early when they could have been a little slow after last night.
And Fielder’s homerun was an absolute bomb. He murdered that ball with that upper cut.
Halladay will likely still be a good pitcher in two years…..but he will be like 38 then and with the looming 189 decree its tough to where hed fit unless it was a cheaper deal.and they needed him…..
Blake
I don’t think so. I believe it’s just a straight vesting option.
I would hope that they won’t need to add a big money starting pitcher in two years. I will probably be disappointed, but whatever.
Verlander didnt have it today…..but when you jump on him before he finds his groove sometimes you can do enough damage to win the game……he fools around with thag “cruising speed” stuff too much sometimes early and he makes mistakes……gotta get him then
Jeter’s homerun was huge… it really set the table for the game
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reminded me of game 4 2000 ws …mets never came back from that.
jeter practices what he preaches
before the game he said we would score again
1st pitch, BOOM
LGY,
Well thats cool as an option at least…..hopefully one they dont need.
Andy and Kuroda 1 year deals for 2013
I would like to see what Jeter could do batting in the middle of the lineup.
that could be 20m
Halladay’s deal is strange…..his agent didnt do a very good.job with that deal….
He has to throw 415 innings between 2012 and 2013 and then 225 in 2013 not exactly easy to reach
is halladay done for the year?
Halladay said at the time he signed the contract that he left money on the table because he liked the situation.
Rich in NJ June 3rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I would like to see what Jeter could do batting in the middle of the lineup.
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Who would bat leadoff then? It would be interesting but you are almost fixing one problem and creating another one…
“Andy and Kuroda 1 year deals for 2013″
Thatd mean at least one of Nova, Hughes, Pineda is out and no room for Banuelos ……I hope they dont need both of Kuroda and Andy next year………I hope the youngsters actually step up…
I wouldn’t be surprised if Pineda needs to spend a good part of 2013 in the mL, building arm strength and refining secondary pitches. In a way, that wouldn’t be the worst thing that could happen.
For the “if George was still alive” crowd, wouldn’t a Doc Halladay with a lot of mileage on his arm and looking for another big deal be exactly the type of player Big Stein would go for?
Rich,
I agree….but I’m hoping Banuelos will be close by next year. They need their young starters to pitch if they are getting under 189 and staying competitive….they needs those guys to produce to offset bigger salaries….I wouldn’t be opposed to Kuroda and Andy coming back….I just hope they don’t need them both.
we could go with the same staff next year.
2014 is the year for the rookies.
“2014 is the year for the rookies”
ideally you don’t want to just throw them in in 2014 because you have a budget…..you want to bring them along when the are ready and then hopefully they’ll be able to help in 2014.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if Pineda needs to spend a good part of 2013 in the mL, building arm strength and refining secondary pitches. ”
True. Would the Yankees get that extra year of control back if Pineda didn’t come up until some time in June, or is that gone forever?
A side benefit of Pineda starting the year in the minors would be that randy would finally win the bet with stuckey, who could still reappear at any time.
2 years in aaa should do it.
Anybody watched Hatfields and McCoys
Anybody watched Hatfields and McCoys
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weren’t they here at Lohud last week?
Worked all day, but man was I impressed by Hughes performance today. He’s a key cog for the staff and it’s good to see he’s coming around. Now if Nova can get his command in control and Kuroda’s performance last night, the Yankees stafff is starting to turn it around.
watched all 3 episodes of Hatfield/McCoys.. One of the best mini series westerns i’ve ever watched and Costner and Paxton did awesome jobs. What a blood bath those 2 families were.
“Baseball has gotten what they wanted. Parity. ”
i hate parity. it’s unamerican.
Mind boggling….I would have never expected Hughes to outpitch Veerlander like he did….Complete game of 1 ER and 8 K’s….The CB was outstanding as well as his FB, so much zip!!…CU wasn’t as good today, but he figure it out very fast, which speaks volumes about his adaptability…Excellent ball game and great Yankee win…
Status of yankee catching.
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If Phil Hughes can throw like that for 3, 4, 5 or more starts in a row I will happily line up for a taste of crow.
Great effort today in a series-deciding game against one of the best starters in the game. Arguably the best win of his MLB career.
GB7,
Thank you for the link….Let’s hope that Romine’s back doesn’t flair up again and it becomes a thing of the past and not chronic ailment. In the case of Sanchez, let’s hope they don’t trade him.
86,
He has pitched increasingly well for 5 out of six starts. His progress has been steady and the development of his pitches has been very good. Tonight it was the CB’s turn, he flashed high 70′s with great break, some were unhittable.
“June 3, 2012 at 7:16 pm watched all 3 episodes of Hatfield/McCoys.. One of the best mini series westerns i’ve ever watched and Costner and Paxton did awesome jobs. What a blood bath those 2 families were.”
Yea ive just seen thr first one but its pretty good…..
Great wins by The Yanks, Hughes and Tiger.
Broken Bricks in CF courtesy of ARod
Hatfields-McCoys – reference I’ve heard to describe the relationship between Yankee fans and Sux fans in the NE area.
luis —
I don’t agree. In three of the four starts he faced two of the three worst teams in the American League (Minn, KC 2X). He didn’t go beyond 6 innings in two of the four and only once all year had he gone 7 or more.
Today was an aberration — hopefully the first of many.
86,
I was told a few days ago that i was seeing the glass half empty instead of half full. I think KC has some very good bats. i do think that he has shown consistent growth. But it’s just me, let’s hope that this is the beginning of many good starts as you say.
Got to go guys. Good night
86w183 June 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
luis —
I don’t agree. In three of the four starts he faced two of the three worst teams in the American League (Minn, KC 2X). He didn’t go beyond 6 innings in two of the four and only once all year had he gone 7 or more.
Today was an aberration — hopefully the first of many.
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So did other Yankee pitchers and they weren’t much better than Hughes was.
i realize this has nothing to do with the Yankees but its baseball related:
when does Billy Beane start catching some flack for how awful the A’s are? they haven’t had a winning record in like four years.
Everyone jumped off the Hughes band wagon in LA…..even though he settled down and gave them length in that start and he had been pretty good in thr 4 starts prior.
You dont go.from where he was to awesome just like flipping a switch……there will be some clunker starts mixed in…..but overall hes trending up finally it looks like…..still only 25 years old
Not every pitcher turns out great,and no expert in the world can predict who does,and who doesn’t,or when,but there is no way of knowing til a pitcher gets a chance,and sometimes it takes 600 ml innings or more.
If a pitcher is 28 yrs old with 800-1000 innings,and they still stink,then you turn the page,but a 25 or 26 yr old pitcher with 500 ml innings who lost development time because of injury,and being sent to the pen,you are gambling by giving up on him,especially if he shows signs of dominance.
“when does Billy Beane start catching some flack for how awful the A’s are? they haven’t had a winning record in like four years.”
Probably not until they can stop blaming it on the ballpark.
Hughes had a great game today, the fastball had a lot of life on it and the curve actually got some whiffs. First game in a while with multiple whiffs or any at all. I didn’t want to bring this up after last game cuz it’d seem like piling on but at this point I don’t think cano on a long term deal is going to be in the yankees best interest. He is a great natural hitter but the lack of plate discpline stops him from being a complete hitter and I really worry that he is going to be susceptible to down years not worth a 20 million tag. With tex and arod they need to be careful. I’m not saying trade him but if they could get ahaul do it if not he has an affordable option. Now if they could extend him at a discount that would be worth it.
blake,
someone should say its weird that a ballpark has the ability to turn Matt Holliday and Carlos Gonzalez into Michael Taylor.
Baltimore’s Adam Jones, he going for an MRI on his wrist.
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“I didn’t want to bring this up after last game cuz it’d seem like piling on but at this point I don’t think cano on a long term deal is going to be in the yankees best interest. He is a great natural hitter but the lack of plate discpline stops him from being a complete hitter and I really worry that he is going to be susceptible to down years not worth a 20 million tag.”
Its a fair concern…..I love his swing and I think his swing will age well itself…..but no.matter how good the swing is if you swing at bad pitches thatll become more of a problem later on….and age you quicker.
It depends on what it takes to sign him…..6/120 I do it……more than that then Im getting nervous with him being 31 that season. He will turn it around and have his typical numbers by thr end of thr year……but he wont be able to get away with his plate discipline at 33 the way he does at 29….