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Kuroda, Cano and Wise carry Yankees to third straight win

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 25, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Hiroki Kuroda walked off to a standing ovation tonight. He delivered seven strong innings, pitching the Yankees to a 7-1 win against the Indians at Yankee Stadium. Kuroda was charged with one run, and that run scored only after he left the game in the eighth. Robinson Cano and Dewayne Wise each had three RBI, with Cano’s coming on a solo homer and a two-run double, and Wise’s coming on a two-run homer and an RBI triple. Cano and Nick Swisher hit back-to-back home runs in the third inning. Wise had homered and tripled in a big league game once before — also at Yankee Stadium.

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95 Responses to “Kuroda, Cano and Wise carry Yankees to third straight win”

  1. LGY June 25th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    KURODA

  2. blake June 25th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    I love a nice blow out win every now and then…..under 3 hours too!

  3. Eroc June 25th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Honestly, I’d rather sign Swisher for 4/$60, than Granderson for 6/$125

  4. We Want Mo Mo June 25th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Id love Ichiro to replace Swish. If it comes to that. I have a problem with Swish’s postseason approach to hitting, not his lack of postseason production. IF we make it to the postseason this year, Id like to see if he can stay within himself and just be himself rather than getting out of sorts and waving at pitches in the dirt.

  5. tomingeorgia June 25th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Night, all. Wish trish were around to enjoy a pleasurable night,

  6. FanSince1948 June 25th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Biggest shock to me was Freddy hitting 88 – 89 on the gun, with one at 90. Wha happened?

  7. mick June 25th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Next occasion is the anniversary, July 11. We were married in Las Vegas, NV, at 7:11 PM, on 7/11.
    =========================
    mr tom, 1911?

    every week it’s another occasion for you, starting with your gall bladder…

  8. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    Robinson Cano is on pace to hit 38 HR in 2012, nearly 10 more than his career high of 29.

  9. Eroc June 25th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    “Robinson Cano is on pace to hit 38 HR in 2012, nearly 10 more than his career high of 29.”

    His contract number is only going up

  10. astrocityfan June 25th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    Nice stress free win tonight. How bout ten more in
    a row just like it ????

  11. tucker June 25th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    I DVR’d the game and have not seen it. Was Kuroda as good as his line indicates? He is becoming the team’s most consistent starter. Nice signIng.

  12. Rich in NJ June 25th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Kuroda has really stepped up, which is why I loved the signing.

    _

    “Honestly, I’d rather sign Swisher for 4/$60, than Granderson for 6/$125″

    I don’t what either at those prices, or frankly, anything close.

  13. blake June 25th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    “Was Kuroda as good as his line indicates? ”

    he was in total control most of the game…stuff was really crisp and he was carving them up.

  14. Eroc June 25th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Kuroda has really stepped up, which is why I loved the signing.

    ———

    A lot of of said all we needed to do was sign Kuroda to be the best team in the east and getting additional pitching wasn’t necessary for the prices it would cost.

  15. RMike June 25th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    “I don’t what either at those prices, or frankly, anything close.”

    Same here. Especially Granderson since we’ll be paying him for his ages 33 on and I’m not sure he will age particularly well especially with his increasing K rates.

    Frankly, Cashman needs to be thinking about life beyond Granderson because unless he takes a pretty big discount, he should not be re-signed for anything close to a Werth-type deal. Giving him a $120 million dollar deal when we’re on a budget is asinine.

  16. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Thank the Lord, Joe Casale’s prediction that Kuroda would be a 10 million dollar long man by June. Otherwise, his season was surely doomed.

  17. Pat M. June 25th, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    ” My Kuroda ” by The Knack

  18. blake June 25th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Looks like Phil Mickelson’s group is going to win the bid for the Padres…..if you’re a pitcher what more could you want than Petco…..the SD weather….and golf tips from owner Phil?

  19. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    I think the Yankees should trade Granderson in the offseason rather than lock him up long-term. I just fear Cashman grows to attached to his decisions and is reluctant to undue acquisitions that he considers clever in his mind. He just couldn’t get enough of Javier Vaquez. The man traded Nick Johnson, Juan Rivera, Melky Cabrera and Arodys Vizcaino for him. It took him forever to cut bait with Randy Johnson. He brought back Scott Proctor. SCOTT PROCTOR. He probably won’t trade Granderson and he will want to lock up Swisher. That’s my biggest fear right there.

  20. We Want Mo Mo June 25th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    LMAO Bret! He pitched badly in 1 game, and he was stricken to the pen. So has Nova, Garcia, and Hughes this season been sent to the pen to be the long man.

    That guy is such a fool sometimes. One thing I gravely dislike about him is his constant reminder to everyone on Twitter that he’s an agent, a media member, and “people in his business”

    My favorite line ever by him was that he said that the NFL agent that has gone bankrupt and been blackballed once asked SJ44 for a 500k loan. What a bunch of made up bull crap. This guy will make up any story to make himself seem important.

  21. Nick in SF June 25th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    But it takes more than a lob wedge to get one out at PetCo.

  22. Pat M. June 25th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    blake….I know the O’Malley’s were in the mix, but very quietly though

  23. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Look how long he clung to Mitre as well.

    Cashman is in love with his moves.

  24. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Look how many lives he has given Phil Hughes. Coincidence?

  25. blake June 25th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Padres Ownership Deal Imminent
    By Mike Axisa [June 25 at 8:49pm CST]
    June 25: The O’Malley family appears to be the sole group left in the bidding, writes Miller. San Diego businessman Ron Fowler will play a much larger role in the ownership group than previously reported, according to Miller’s sources.

    Fowler would be the point man for the ownership group, which includes Brian and Kevin O’Malley, Peter and Tom Seidler (sons of O’Malley’s sister), and PGA superstar Phil Mickelson.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

  26. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Now that that’s settled maybe Cashman can earn his paycheck and add Quentin. However, I bet he doesn’t want to oust Ibanez – another one of his glorified moves.

    He got lucky with Garcia last year and brought the guy back.

  27. blake June 25th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Pat,

    Interesting….hopefully it’s a good group.

    Night guys

  28. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    He brought back Roger Clemens as a 44 year old. And gave him 17 million for a shortened season! Cashman overrates himself.

  29. Nick in SF June 25th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    No Anti-Hughesism the night before he pitches, please.

  30. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    He went balls to the wall to give Cliff Lee 24 million per year. Cliff Lee is heading down Barry Zito lane.

  31. Rich in NJ June 25th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    “I just fear Cashman grows to attached to his decisions and is reluctant to undue acquisitions that he considers clever in his mind. He just couldn’t get enough of Javier Vaquez. ”

    The way I would put it is that he so hypersensitive about the impact of the huge payroll advantage on the Yankees’ success during his tenure as a GM, that he will do anything to highlight moves that weren’t primarily the result of having money to burn.

  32. Nick in SF June 25th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Barry Zito is standing on third base in San Francisco. You’re way off the mark.

  33. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    This after he failed to trade for him twice. Cashman was determined to acquire Lee and prove his genius to us.

    The gig is up Cashphoney.

  34. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    I KNOW Cashman will not bring back the exiled Melky because then Cashman would have to admit he made a big blunder.

    Austin Jackson – POOF

  35. Rich in NJ June 25th, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    “I KNOW Cashman will not bring back the exiled Melky because then Cashman would have to admit he made a big blunder.”

    Twice.

  36. ctyankeefan. June 25th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Brian Cashman this and Brian Cashman that…. blah blah blah. So, the yankees won tonight eh?

  37. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Pass on Carlos Beltran once. Pass on him the second time. Why the heck not?

  38. Nick in SF June 25th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    Melky just drove in Zito.

    Worlds collide.

  39. Pat M. June 25th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    Rich in NJ……It’ll be interesting to see how Cashman handles adjusts to the new frontier facing The Yanks……..The farm system isn’t in that great of shape, well at least not ready to provide the big club with answers……..Betances is not going in the right direction as there appears to be quite a gap in the system when you consider the Hughes, Kennedy, Chamberlain and what has followed that wave of young talent…..They need to make some bold moves this winter and rebuild the product in The Bronx…….Yanks are at a crossroad of great significance moving forward………

  40. Nick in SF June 25th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    FYI, Bret the Hitman: not everyone gets that you’re doing shtick.

  41. ctyankeefan. June 25th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    And I dont think trading Melky was that big of a blunder at the time. If I remember right all you had to do was throw a fastball over the plate letter high or higher and Melky would swing and miss.

  42. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Keppinger hits the market – plays 3b and can spot 2b or SS in an emergency.

    Sign him?

    Nooooooo…

    Bring back Chavez, remind us of your genius moves.

    Keppinger is hitting .320!

  43. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Dump Brackman? Nooooo. Stick with your genius moves.

  44. Rich in NJ June 25th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Pat

    According to Cashman, they were stockpiling pitchers and catchers because they were the scarcest resources and they would be able to grow their own and trade the surplus to fill other needs. To date, what does he have to show for that?

  45. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Do you all see the pattern?

    Isn’t it obvious Hiroki Kuroda has all but ensured his Yankee tenure up until the ripe old age of 53?

  46. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    The name Felix Heredia ring a bell?

  47. m June 25th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Safe to say it was a “Wise” decision to start Dewayne tonight? :yuck yuck:

    Looks like a good night for the Yankees. TB, TEX, and Boston all got or getting their behinds handed to them. How long will they delay that Boston game? Just call it already! The horse is dead.

  48. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Edwar Ramirez?

    The guy lingered like a silent fart.

  49. RMike June 25th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Brett – Which is precisely why they need a new voice moving forward. Someone who can make unbiased assessments and isn’t sensitive. Maybe someone who can develop some young players every now and then too. I mean, for god sakes, Gardner is the best position player he’s developed since he’s taken full control and they still have not developed a consistent reliable 200 inning starting pitcher (Nova might become the 1st if he finishes the year well).

  50. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    I would like John Flaherty to try his hand at GM. His analysis of player talent and ability is top notch in baseball. He really has an eye for it. At least make him Assistant GM.

  51. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    I bet Flaherty would vote “yay” on the bring-back-Melky deliberations.

  52. Bret The Hitman June 25th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    Colby Rasmus is on pace for 31 HR and 98 RBI. Lefty CF. I would hate to see Toronto sell Bautista at the deadline for a truckload of promising young players. Bautista is on pace for 53 HR. He’s worth a ton but he’s 31. Toronto could really make a splash if they traded him and set themselves up for years to come. They could take over Tampa’s spot with more $$ to fortify their roster with free agents. Some great young players on that team.

  53. Against All Odds June 25th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    To date, what does he have to show for that?

    ————————–

    Nova and I guess Drob of you count relievers

  54. Pat M. June 25th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Rich in NJ…….I understood and favored Cashman’s logic regarding the stockpiling of pitchers and backstops……One pressing issue is what to do with Curtis Granderson……Kennedy & Jackson for 3 years of Granderson ?? It’s so unlikely that they’re going to re-ink him so does he walk away, or do you spin him off for maybe 2 solid looking young players ???? Montero & Noiesi for Pineda and Campos will take a few years to get a clear take on that trade…..The Killer B’s are a concern and Cashman’s legacy could be on the line with them…….As well as his job !!!!!

  55. Rich in NJ June 25th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    “Nova and I guess Drob of you count relievers”

    I should have said catchers and starting pitchers, but Nova has kind of been a story of accidental development (the Rule 5 draft thing), but if he continues, sure Cashman gets credit; same with Hughes.

    But the implication from Cashman and Co., as the strategy was being devised and implemented, was that they could fill other holes with the surplus catchers and starting pitchers. To this point, the yield is negative.

  56. Against All Odds June 25th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    if=of*

  57. tucker June 25th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    At some point, Toronto has to show they can win and not just stockpile talent. For that reason, I don’t see them trading Bautista. He’s also their top fan attraction.

  58. GreenBeret7 June 25th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    Mark Feinsand?@BloggingBombers

    The Yankees now have the best record in the majors (44-28). Hard to believe, given how awful many of their own fans seem to think they are.

  59. theREALkevin June 25th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Zero percent chance I would extend Granderson. He’ll be too old. He should net a nice package at some point here in the near future though.

  60. Against All Odds June 25th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Rich in NJ June 25th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    “Nova and I guess Drob of you count relievers”

    I should have said catchers and starting pitchers, but Nova has kind of been a story of accidental development (the Rule 5 draft thing), but if he continues, sure Cashman gets credit; same with Hughes.

    But the implication from Cashman and Co., as the strategy was being devised and implemented, was that they could fill other holes with the surplus catchers and starting pitchers. To this point, the yield is negative.

    —————————–

    True at this point it hasn’t been as good as they thought it would be. He maybe running out of time.

    Funny I was going to mention that about Nova lol. His journey has been a weird one that’s for sure.

  61. Rich in NJ June 25th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Pat

    I understand the logic as well, but has been the case with player development since 2006, there seems to be an issue with execution, because Oppenheimer appears to be able to identify talent (including Hughes in 2004).

    As for Montero, again, I understand they may not have wanted him, but I don’t understand how you trade your only ML ready, high level bat (with key aging/declining offense players) for a starting pitcher with that kind of inherent risk.

    But Hal appears to like him to the point that he has stood by him despite personal indiscretions that may have caused George to fire his butt. So I hope he finds a way to rise to the challenges presented by the new CBA.

    As for Granderson (and Cano), I would hope that they would see what their trade value is during the offseason. If they can get a huge haul of cost-controlled young position players, it may make sense to move one or both.

  62. Pat M. June 25th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    GB…….I point to their pitching, both starters as well as the pen have been lights out……..And they’re doing this without the Hall of Famer Mariano Rivera and with a sluggish defensive platoon system replacing the injured Brett Gardner…….Deep bench and a deep bullpen…….I still have a concern about the bullpen when October rolls about…..3-5 game lead by the break…..

  63. 4time June 25th, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    “Nova and I guess Drob of you count relievers”

    Even Nova wasn’t by design – they let him go in the rule 5 and the only reason he got a chance to start last year was because they didn’t get Lee

  64. 4time June 25th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    “As for Granderson (and Cano), I would hope that they would see what their trade value is during the offseason. If they can get a huge haul of cost-controlled young position players, it may make sense to move one or both.”

    That should be the move – a forward thinking, innovative organization does just that.

    Cashman, on the otherhand, will probably let Swisher walk and replace him with some past-his-prime vet like Hunter on a short-term deal, then let Grandy/Cano go to FA while paying them whatever it takes, and cutting corners in other places to make up for it. I’ve also come to accept the fact that they’re going to be below average at catcher until Sanchez is ready.

  65. jacksquat June 25th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    44-28, best record in baseball. Cashman has ruined this team.

  66. Rich in NJ June 25th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    Anything less than total fealty means that you think they are awful. That’s pretty transparent bs.

    Let’s not forget that without Soriano, who Cashman was correctly against signing, they might have 5 to 7 less wins.

  67. tucker June 25th, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Is Binder Joe in the running for manager of the year? Nobody gets more out of marginal bullpen arms.

  68. Yank 97 June 25th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    This year wasn’t the hard part or test for Cashman. They were the best team in baseball last year, record-wise, and they added Kuroda and Andy without losing anyone of significance. This team was always going to be fine – which is why many of us were against the Pineda trade to begin with because he wasn’t necessary.

    We’ll see how he navigates through the next couple of winters. Kuroda, Andy, Jeter, Granderson, Swisher, Rivera, Cano, Martin, Hughes, Soriano, etc. all FAs. Farm has taken a step back except for the guys in Low-A, with no real help on the horizon. That is his challenge. Not adding Ibanez and Clay Rapada to a stacked team.

  69. GreenBeret7 June 25th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    If Toronto doesn’t stop killing their pitchers, they aren’t going anywhere. They lost another starter tonight with rookie Henderson Alvarez leaving tonight’s game with a sore elbow. 5 starters this year are out.

  70. NYYanksFan June 25th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Yankee draft pick is College WS MVP.

  71. GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2012 at 12:05 am

    Pat M. June 25th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
    GB…….I point to their pitching, both starters as well as the pen have been lights out……..And they’re doing this without the Hall of Famer Mariano Rivera and with a sluggish defensive platoon system replacing the injured Brett Gardner…….Deep bench and a deep bullpen…….I still have a concern about the bullpen when October rolls about…..3-5 game lead by the break…..

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    The hitters will come around. They all have their short runs so it’s not like they are total failures. When two or three get on long runs, the rest will follow. Cashman has put together on of the best pitching staffs aound with starters and bullpen. I assume Garcia leaves when Aatdsma or Chamberlain leaves. I am surprised that garcia has adapted so well to the pen, considering he’s never really done that and how seldom he gets used. Cashman also had a strong pen last year and a guy tht people laughed a picked up a lot of loose innings for them in Luis Ayala. I don’t give a damned if the B James boys don’t consider them important innings or not. It save the others from having to pitch them.

  72. jacksquat June 26th, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Some people will complain about Cashman until they are 162-0.

  73. Pat M. June 26th, 2012 at 12:07 am

    Rich in NJ……..Many here including yourself have been very critical of the Yankee Organization’s approach to developing their players…..I agree that Oppenhiemer and his scouts have a very keen eye for talent for the most part, but for all their financial might there’s room for great improvement……..I think the system is understaffed down on the farm

  74. tucker June 26th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    NYYanksFan says:
    June 25, 2012 at 11:57 pm
    Yankee draft pick is College WS MVP.
    Xxxxxx

    Refsnyder looks like a decent prospect.’wonder if this CWS display drove up his price a bit.

  75. GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    So, NYYs pick up a game on Tampa and Boston, half a game on Baltimore and hold ground with Toronto who is tied for last with Baltimore.

  76. tucker June 26th, 2012 at 12:13 am

    Yanks will still need a long man when Aardsma and Joba are ready. Unless they consider Eppley a viable long man — and he has pitched very well – he may be the odd man out.

  77. GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2012 at 12:15 am

    Pat, there should be a full staff at every level instead of having players coach the bases and coaches doing two and three jobs. One thing that it really lacks is having better medical/training staffs. Even if they farm out the medical department to local doctors and bring in off-duty EMT personnel, it’s better than what I’ve seen.

  78. GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2012 at 12:16 am

    Refsnyder is supposed to be signed as soon as the college WS is over.

  79. Against All Odds June 26th, 2012 at 12:17 am

    4time June 25th, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    “Nova and I guess Drob of you count relievers”

    Even Nova wasn’t by design – they let him go in the rule 5 and the only reason he got a chance to start last year was because they didn’t get Lee

    ————–

    Excellent point

  80. johnfish June 26th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    And I dont think trading Melky was that big of a blunder at the time. If I remember right all you had to do was throw a fastball over the plate letter high or higher and Melky would swing and miss.
    ————————————————————————
    It wasn’t a big blunder at the time.
    What was the big blunder was not signing Melky after the Braves released him. Even as only the 4th outfielder, he was more than worth the $1 million that the Royals paid for him. Obviously, he’s worth a lell of a lot more now.

    Of course there were some of us who always knew Melky had it all over Gardner, but that’s wasn’t even the issue when Cash could have picked Melky up. And he wanted, oh so badly, to return.

  81. BD (Boston Dave) June 26th, 2012 at 12:24 am

    “Let’s not forget that without Soriano, who Cashman was correctly against signing, they might have 5 to 7 less wins.”

    ———

    While Soriano has been huge, the many millions they’d have saved (plus draft pick) if they didn’t sign him might have been used on Beltran or who knows. You just can’t assume they’d have less wins right now. Too many variables.

  82. BD (Boston Dave) June 26th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    re: Melky

    Too many people around here seem to want the best of both worlds. A team that wins every year and is a legit contender AND a team that lets players struggle at the big league level while they develop.

    Of course, it might seem like there is an easy answer to this, but the wind changes often on the LoHud blog. Hindsight reigns supreme.

    Best record in baseball. That’s what I’ll focus on right now.

  83. Yank 97 June 26th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    Buster_ESPN
    Melky Cabrera two more hits tonight; is on a pace for 228 this season.

  84. Bo knows June 26th, 2012 at 12:31 am

    Considering Cashman and Co biggest claim to fame is Dumpster Diving or to put it honestly – finding undervalued players, I’m not that concerned with Cashman working with constraints.

    People preach to an agenda about the minors. The three Bs, were highly ranked last spring, they fell back, development is never linear, sometime players flame out. The surprise is that Ban and Bet performed great at the AA level, which is normally the hardest step. Romine got injured. And the point is?

    The Yankees were put on a budget re drafting, when other teams expanded their budget a couple of years back. This forced Oppenheimer to draft strictly low ranked HS players due to budget constraints, which caused the gap at the AA level. But God forbid that this should interfere with the narrative.

  85. Bo knows June 26th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Excellent point

    —————
    It isn’t an excellent point. The Yankees knowingly left him off the roster. He wasn’t developed enought to remain on a Major League roster all season. As is what happened.

  86. Bo knows June 26th, 2012 at 12:36 am

    I guess developing Noesi or Jackson don’t count either.

  87. Rich in NJ June 26th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    “The Yankees were put on a budget re drafting, when other teams expanded their budget a couple of years back. This forced Oppenheimer to draft strictly low ranked HS players due to budget constraints, which caused the gap at the AA level. But God forbid that this should interfere with the narrative.”

    You are overlooking their considerable financial advantage (until now with IFAs). As such, how is it acceptable that since Cashman assumed more power in 2006, that the only ML starting position players they were able to develop have been Gardner and Montero?

  88. Rich in NJ June 26th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    OK, AJack too by paying over slot. But only one is a Yankee.

  89. Yank 97 June 26th, 2012 at 12:42 am

    “I guess developing Noesi or Jackson don’t count either.”

    Considering their track record with developing players, they probably don’t develop here.

    Cashman explicitly said he wanted to stop the process of using the farm just to acquire other team’s players and wanted to develop his own cost-controlled players. How does he do that if the players that turn out good, are the ones he traded away? Some self-scouting has to go into that.

  90. m June 26th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Who ends up with more hits? Jeter or Melky?

  91. Jerkface June 26th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    Who ends up with more hits? Jeter or Melky?

    Melky. Jeter is really tapering off after his torrid start. .266 since the beginning of May, .231 .293 .319 .612 in June.

  92. AZ88 June 26th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    The Yankees were put on a budget re drafting, when other teams expanded their budget a couple of years back.

    ————-

    They still, at worst, ranked in the middle of the pack in terms of draft expenditure. Ok, so Cashman couldn’t continue to exploit a significant financial advantage, he had to settle for spending more than merely half the league.

  93. m June 26th, 2012 at 12:54 am

    The Yankees have the best record despite being 21st in Quality Starts (35). Imagine how many wins they would have with a few more hits with RISP.

  94. Bo knows June 26th, 2012 at 12:57 am

    OK, AJack too by paying over slot. But only one is a Yankee.

    ———-
    Sanchez was the last big signing in the Dominican. Take a look at where the Yankees are in the last couple of years in Draft spending compared to teams like Boston and Toronto. Even TB spent money.

    That’s where the Yankees had the advantage – by going over slot. That was taken away by the suits by budgeting the draft – stated by Oppenheimer.

    I don’t care if people agree or disagree on the Yankees management moves.

    I don’t like preaching to an agenda, as in Cashman is a doofus. Tell the whole story.

    I didn’t like the Granderson trade but I could see the pressure of success now, and not being able to give Jackson time.

  95. Rich in NJ June 26th, 2012 at 1:04 am

    “Sanchez was the last big signing in the Dominican. Take a look at where the Yankees are in the last couple of years in Draft spending compared to teams like Boston and Toronto. Even TB spent money.”

    That was in 2009.

    I tell the whole story with nauseating regularity.

    Since since he was given more autonomy in 2006, they have not developed prospects well.

    He is good at marginal signings. He is good at finding fungible relievers.

    But he has a myopic view about the importance of pitching and that combined with the inability to develop starting pitchers and position players from within on his watch has put them in a situation where they impending fiscal cliff puts their ability to continue to win at a high level in jeopardy.


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