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Postgame notes: “They already had one”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc, Notes on Jun 26, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

 

Phil Hughes was terrific tonight. He faced a lineup full of left-handed hitters — literally all lefties and switch-hitters — and delivered eight scoreless innings, coming three outs away from a complete game shutout. Of all the outs he got, though, the most memorable was the one that shouldn’t have been an out at all.

“I saw (the umpire) kind of looking at my glove,” Dewayne Wise said. “So I just got up, put my head down and ran off the field.”

You know what was missing from Wise’s glove as he ran off the field at the end of the seventh? The ball. He never had it. When Wise flipped over the wall and into the seats for the final out of the inning, the ball hit off the heel of his glove and into the stands. Wise never tried to sell it, he just got up and jogged off the field as third-base umpire Mike DiMuro ruled an out to leave an Indians runner stranded at third base.

“Normally when a guy makes a play like that, that’s the first thing they’re saying. He’s showing the ball,” Wise said. “But I guess he was confident I made the catch. Like I said, it was a tough angle for him. But truthfully, the ball popped out. … Stuff like that happens. They’re not perfect. He said out right away, so what was I supposed to do? Run back to left field? I ran off the field.”

Said DiMuro: “Now that I see the tape it’s obvious that the ball fell out of his glove. In hindsight, I should have asked him to show me the ball since he fell into the stands and out of my line of vision.”

After seeing a replay between innings, Jack Hannahan — who hit the ball — got into an argument with DiMuro in the middle of the eighth inning and was ejected. Hannahan thought DiMuro had also blown a fair/foul call on Chris Stewart’s RBI single in the second inning.

“By the time you find out, it’s too late,” Indians umpire Manny Acta said. “We knew because they didn’t show it on the board. It’s a great play, how come you’re not showing it on the board for the fans? We were discussing that with the umpires. What can he do? He can’t see the guy picking up the ball over there. He felt bad, but the damage was done.”

Acta had no problem with Wise’s reaction — “If you can get an out, why not?” Acta said. “We’ve had phantom tags in baseball forever.” — and Wise rewarded the left-field fans a little later in the game.

“I threw a ball over there a couple of innings later,” Wise said. “They already had one.”

• If not for the Wise non-catch, this game would have been all about a bounceback start for Hughes, who rebounded for him a rocky outing last week against the Braves to pitch through the eighth inning for the second time this month. “My fastball was good,” Hughes said. “I threw some good curveballs when I needed to. That’s the first time I’ve ever seen an all-left-handed lineup before, and I’m pretty comfortable with my fastball going into lefties. I did that a lot and things worked out.”

• Hughes ERA is down to 4.48, the lowest it’s been since his first start of the season. The difference between this start and his last one? “Just trying to keep my fastball more true, which I struggled with early I think,” Hughes said. “I did a better job as the game progressed. It’s the same things we’ve been working on; sometimes you have to chalk it up you didn’t have your stuff that day and go from there.”

• Asked when he knew he had good stuff, Hughes said the answer was, never. “It wasn’t great, I didn’t think,” he said. “I was able to work and locate some pitches pretty well, but it wasn’t the best stuff I’ve had all year. I had a good curveball, especially to my arm side, that allowed me to get out of some situations. It’s not the best stuff I had, especially early. I think I found a little bit better stuff as the game progressed.”

• Catcher Chris Stewart said Hughes made up for his lack of stuff by staying aggressive. “Forcing them to hit the ball,” Stewart said. “He wasn’t shying away from anybody. He was forcing them to try to hit his fastball.”

• The Wise play might have helped Hughes get through the night without a run, but he also did a nice job getting out of some trouble by himself. “Really impressed, and you can look at the (seventh), where he gets a runner on second with nobody out,” Joe Girardi said. “All three innings (the fifth, sixth and seventh). It ends up those runs might have meant something when you look at the game now. It’s really impressive what he did.”

• Speaking of meaning something now, Cory Wade had another rough outing in that four-run ninth. It’s becoming a trend for him lately. “Couple of balls over the middle and they hit them well,” Stewart said. “Kind of sucks. That one ball that Damon hit just fell in there. That could have been the end of the game, no runs given up.”

• Girardi said some of the same stuff — if a few balls go just a little differently, Wade might have had a scoreless innings — but he also acknowledged that Wade’s command hasn’t been nearly as good as it was earlier this season when he was a go-to setup man. Girardi doesn’t believe he’s hurt. “His velocity is the same,” Girardi said. “If I saw a real drop in velocity, I’d be concerned. I just think he’s struggling right now.”

• The Yankees are now a season-high 17 games over .500. … They’ve won seven of their past eight series and nine of their past 11. … They’ve won 10 of their past 14 home games and 14 of their past 17 overall.

• Alex Rodriguez hit his 13th homer of the year, but the Yankees didn’t lean on the home run in this one. They went 4-for-8 with runners in scoring position, including 3-for-4 in their three-run second inning. “We only hit one homer tonight!” Girardi said. “It was really good. It was important. We had some big hits by some guys. Masterson’s sinker is crazy. The thing is moving all over the place. Guys are shaking their heads. Righties are saying, ‘Come on, lefties.’ It comes in on the right-handed hitters. He’s a tough guy to hit, so for us to manufacture some runs was pretty impressive.”

• Russell Martin said his back injury is less significant than the one he had last season. “Last year was worse,” he said. “I don’t know how much time I missed last year, but it’s definitely not as severe as it was last year. It’s just something small. I’ll take care of it. If I had to play today, I’d play.”

• Rafael Soriano faced one batter and got his 16th save of the season.

• Derek Jeter went 2-for-5 and now has a .327 average on his birthday. His next hit will tie Cal Ripken for 13th on baseball’s all-time hits list.

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122 Responses to “Postgame notes: “They already had one””

  1. cs in la June 26th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    This was the kind of game that we love to watch. A true team effort.

    Except for Cory Wade, of course.

  2. Rich in NJ June 26th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Great effort by Hughes. I hope they aren’t developing him for another team.

  3. Nick in SF June 26th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    re-joke:

    “Puig was evidently declared a free agent. That was fast.”

    Not enough time to roast a pig, but there’s a youtube video of him microwaving a hot dog.

  4. GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    Jon Heyman?@JonHeymanCBS

    The out call on dewayne wise “catch” is worst call I’ve seen, beating the mauer “foul” call in playoffs. Funniest also.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Typical for the Heyman idiot. He’s still kissing Santana’s ass for his “no hitter” and not one word about a bad call from the umpire.

  5. GreenBeret7 June 26th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Looks like Jeter will have to wait until he’s 39 to hit his first birthday home run.

  6. Betsy June 26th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Sure, Heyman – a probably meaningless call (bad, though) in a regular season game totally outweights a call in the playoffs. Sure, there was the Don Denkinger call in the 1985 WS, the Jeter/Maier call in the 1996 playoffs…but this tops them all. The idea that he’s even referred to as a sportswriter is probably the worst call I’ve ever heard.

  7. Rich in NJ June 27th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    They have the technology to get calls right far more often. Until MLB utilizes it, complaining about it is kind of sanctimonious. Instead, they should go after Selig to make changes.

  8. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Gary Sanchez last 10 games: 12 for 30 (.400), 11R, 1 2B, 4HR, 8RBI, 5BB, 7K. .400/.472/.833/1.306 for @ChasRiverDogs

    Retweeted by Charleston RiverDogs

  9. Nick in SF June 27th, 2012 at 12:03 am

    “Won’t be easy hitting dingers at Safeco though.”

    Cespedes shows the way. :neutral:

  10. Pat M. June 27th, 2012 at 12:05 am

    Vince Scully just passed along one of his nightly nuggets….In 1966 Sandy Koufax won 27 games and he completed 27 games……….Melky looking very studly in his home uni’s….Giants closing fast of The Dodgers as they hope to in the drivers seat by the break……

  11. CompassRosy June 27th, 2012 at 12:07 am

    “He is calling another good game. And is 1-2. Won’t be easy hitting dingers at Safeco though.

    (emphasis mine)

    You can say that again (especially for the M’s!)
    But, at least Jesus is hitting more there than most M’s …
    he and Smoak are tied for the team lead, each with 3 “home homers”

  12. Nick in SF June 27th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    I could use a few more from Smoak as well. At least Cespedes got one.

  13. LGY June 27th, 2012 at 12:15 am

    Safeco dead last in HR factor this season

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/p.....t/HRFactor

  14. LGY June 27th, 2012 at 12:17 am

    Pretty sure Heyman is simply referring to the ease of the call rather than the gravity of it.

  15. Nick in SF June 27th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    First in Ivars factor, however.

  16. LGY June 27th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    And I think I have to agree with Heyman. Don’t think it can get worse than ruling a catch when the player doesn’t even have the ball!

  17. Rich in NJ June 27th, 2012 at 12:21 am

    So Donnie Walsh goes back to running a basketball team, and the Knicks have a GM who thought it was worth using his onnly remaining cap space for the next three years on a good player in Chandler, but not one who puts them over the top in terms of winning a championship for the first time in like forever, and not worth burning the one-time amnesty when Amare had already hurt his back in one of the most inexcusable injuries ever sustained.

  18. Nick in SF June 27th, 2012 at 12:21 am

    It was the neighborhood call. Wise and the ball were both in the same section.

  19. Pat M. June 27th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    LGY….The old adage was , show me the ball and you’ll get the call……..That’s what’s so hard to understand from such a good ump……Maybe he was flashing back to Derek’s great catch in 04

  20. Rich in NJ June 27th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    “And I think I have to agree with Heyman. Don’t think it can get worse than ruling a catch when the player doesn’t even have the ball!”

    There are always really bad calls. They have the ability to review them and they choose not to use it.

  21. Betsy June 27th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    No, it was definitely an awful call…………It makes no sense that there is no replay, but apparently MLB prefers to be wrong more than right.

    Rich, the only thing the Yankees can do is try to gamble again on Hughes and re-sign him before he hits FA

  22. LGY June 27th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    There are always really bad calls. They have the ability to review them and they choose not to use it.

    ———–

    And for all MLB does to try to protect their umpires they allow for embarrassing situations like this that could be resolved by replay in less than 1 minute.

  23. CompassRosy June 27th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    re: M’s / A’s tonight….

    bad = smallest Safeco Field crowd EVER (11,352)

    good = 1st back-to-back double-digit strikeout games (Ramirez 10 last night, Vargas 10 tonight) for Mariners’ starters since Paul Abbott (12) and Freddie Garcia (12) in 1999

  24. TD213 June 27th, 2012 at 12:32 am

    Put Montero in NYS and he has 15 HRs by now

  25. Rich in NJ June 27th, 2012 at 12:32 am

    “And for all MLB does to try to protect their umpires they allow for embarrassing situations like this that could be resolved by replay in less than 1 minute.”

    Exactly.

    Betsy,

    The one thing I don’t think anyone can defend with the Yankees is their contract extension policy. Even if Hughes isn’t a guy the want to keep, I don’t see how it doesn’t make sense to see where Cano and Granderson are at. If not now, then immediately following the season.

  26. 4time June 27th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Guys don’t sign extensions when they are a year from FA unless they get close to market value (i.e. Cain, Weaver).

    With Cano, it is only going to get more expensive to keep him, especially with Boras. They are going to have to pay through their nose anyway, as they can’t afford to let him go, so they might as well at least try and save a few million

    Signing Grandy long-term would be a mistake unless he takes a pretty big discount. Can’t keep signing guys in their mid 30s to $100 million dollar deals and expect this budget to work.

  27. yanks 27 June 27th, 2012 at 12:36 am

    “Guys don’t sign extensions when they are a year from FA unless they get close to market value (i.e. Cain, Weaver).”

    Look no further than Martin who said he wants a Molina contract when he rejected the Yankees offer this winter.

    Hughes’ value is very tough to assess. If he finishes the year strong, he’d be wise to go to FA and try to get a Danks/Wilson type contract rather than settle for some $5/$25 deal.

  28. yanks 27 June 27th, 2012 at 12:39 am

    “Put Montero in NYS and he has 15 HRs by now”

    Which is why all the snarky comments about his lack of production is amusing. Ask Montero to hit 7th or 8th in this lineup and play his home games in NYS (with road games in other favorable sites like Camden Yards, Fenway, Rogers Centre), and the production would be much different.

  29. We Want Mo Mo June 27th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Told you this was gonna happen regarding Wise’s catch. Its now the worst call ever! A relatively meaningless play in a relatively meaningless game. And of course the Mauer foul ball is also brought up to remind everyone, the Twins ended up getting the bases loaded that inning with nobody out and couldnt drive in a run.

    You want blatantly biased, one sided and awful umpiring, just look at Game 6 of the 2009 World Series. Joe West’s strike zone was completely one sided.

    I wish someone that actually knew baseball like Jerkface or LGY would confirm that by looking at pitchfx.com. I dont need to look at pitchfx, I know what I saw that night, and I know what I felt inside of me watching that injustice, my blood boiling.

  30. igotid88 June 27th, 2012 at 12:44 am

    Why haven’t the M’s move the the walls closer? Like Citifield

  31. Betsy June 27th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    Rich, before this, it didn’t matter because the Yankees would just eventually pay to keep who they wanted. Now, it’s huge because – well, I don’t want to get on Hal’s case right now, but he’s acting like a tightwad. Yes, I realize the payroll is still huge, but he’s making decisions based more on finances than baseball and that’s what small market teams do.

    It would stink to high heaven if one or both of Granderson/Cano are not re-signed. I’m guessing Cano will be…………IMO getting rid of Granderson would be a ridiculous mistake.

  32. We Want Mo Mo June 27th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    ESPN headline:

    Yankee fools ump after dropped ball

  33. Nick in SF June 27th, 2012 at 12:49 am

    “Which is why all the snarky comments about his lack of production is amusing.”

    Ain’t that the truth. Plus there’s the oft-cited Sad Montero Factor — dream killer Cashman broke Montero’s heart and dampened his production by sending him to SafeCo. Cashman probably thinks he can lower Montero’s value and get him back cheaper later on. :mad:

  34. CompassRosy June 27th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    “Why haven’t the M’s move the the walls closer? Like Citifield”

    ~

    with the huge disparity in their home/road splits this year, it is definitely being discussed.
    Me? I’m not necessarily in favor of something that may help the hitters but may hurt the pitchers.

  35. TD213 June 27th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    Yanks always seem to benefit from these umpires errors over the years – don’t mind at all. At least one NY team gets some breaks from the officials

  36. Nick in SF June 27th, 2012 at 12:54 am

    Do visitors hit more homers in SafeCo that the M’s this season?

    It seems like every time I watch a Mariners home game, a visitor is hitting a homer.

    (super small sample size)

  37. We Want Mo Mo June 27th, 2012 at 12:58 am

    Thats not true at all. Theyve missed a few calls here and there. A couple playoff calls, like Maier and Mauer. But what the HP umpires do to us in the playoffs is 100 fold worse than a few missed calls. They change games, against us. Its not entirely the reason we got knocked out by the Tigers in the ALDS, but it was a very important reason. Doug Fister (who??) getting every single call to go his way, while in each appearance, CC Sabathia getting squeezed repeatedly. At least I can honestly say that the Yankees lost the 2010 ALCS mostly because of themselves and the Rangers being a better team that series.

  38. Tyler June 27th, 2012 at 1:00 am

    TD213 June 27th, 2012 at 12:51 am
    Yanks always seem to benefit from these umpires errors over the years – don’t mind at all. At least one NY team gets some breaks from the officials
    ——————————–

    These things usually end up being pretty even by the end of the year. I’m sure there will be some call that hurts the Yanks before the year is over. This one was pretty bad though. Never seen an ump not even think to see if the ball is in his glove on a play like that.

  39. beedogs June 27th, 2012 at 1:07 am

    It’s really only a matter of time until a player KO’s an umpire for a bad call. I’ll be cheering that player on.

  40. We Want Mo Mo June 27th, 2012 at 1:11 am

    Ill be cheering that player on as well. My only hope is that its a Red Sox that does it. So it can be like a “kill 2 birds with one stone” or a “have my cake and eat it too” thing. To have the Red Sox org. get stained like that, to have that player possibly suspended, and to have an umpire get his just dues. Would be priceless.

  41. beedogs June 27th, 2012 at 1:13 am

    “Instead, they should go after Selig to make changes.”

    Bud Selig has demonstrated repeatedly that the only changes he’s interested in making are ones which either benefit his crappy team or which ruin baseball in general. Instant replay would fulfill neither of those goals.

  42. UnKnown June 27th, 2012 at 1:25 am

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    —–

    Soriano has nothing on Chapman who is trying out for the Gymnastic Olympic team here after he saves the game tonight.

  43. CompassRosy June 27th, 2012 at 1:25 am

    “Do visitors hit more homers in SafeCo that the M’s this season?”

    ~

    Barely, Nick.

    Visitors 19
    Home Town Nine 17

    (in contrast, M’s have 51 road homers)

  44. jacksquat June 27th, 2012 at 1:38 am

    Montero has a .691 OPS at home, .720 OPS away, not a big difference.

  45. jacksquat June 27th, 2012 at 1:41 am

    He has huge C/DH splits, I guess he doesn’t like DH’ing.

  46. igotid88 June 27th, 2012 at 1:41 am

    CompassRosy June 27th, 2012 at 12:51 am
    “Why haven’t the M’s move the the walls closer? Like Citifield”

    ~

    with the huge disparity in their home/road splits this year, it is definitely being discussed.
    Me? I’m not necessarily in favor of something that may help the hitters but may hurt the pitchers.
    ———————————–

    It doesn’t have to be drastic. I forget, do they have a high wall?

  47. Nick in SF June 27th, 2012 at 1:42 am

    “Visitors 19
    Home Town Nine 17″

    So the difference would be the homers by Buster Posey and Cespedes that I watched. I knew it.

  48. CompassRosy June 27th, 2012 at 1:46 am

    JS ~

    Jesus’s splits are one of the few that aren’t extreme.

    M’s team OPS
    HOME .583
    AWAY .730

    and, as I posted earlier, a couple of the real extremes….

    Saunders OPS
    HOME .568
    AWAY .885

    Seager OPS
    HOME .569
    AWAY .914

  49. CompassRosy June 27th, 2012 at 1:51 am

    Nick :)

    ~~~

    igotid88 ~

    Nope. No high walls, except the typical (I think) corners…
    http://tinyurl.com/7w3ee8g

  50. Pat M. June 27th, 2012 at 5:15 am

    Good Night Lohuders, and Good morning to The Lohud Breakfast club……….Maybe today will be the day Doreen pops in to say hello………Hughes tossed another quality game…..What happens when he finishes the season at 16-8 with an ERA around 3.70 and 170 K’s……He now has value and will cost the Yanks 4 years ( with an option ) 48 million…………Now what do you do, because the days of struggling are becoming a distant memory……Just a GB stated earlier, what happens if he rolls out another 6-7 strong outings and has another clunker……..By that time he’ll be 15-7, with September still to be played…….

  51. MG June 27th, 2012 at 7:10 am

    Montero’s results have a lot more to do with which side the pitcher is throwing than anything else:

    Vs LHP: .373/.405/.587/.992
    Vs RHP: .218/.259/.330/.589

    this fictitious analysis that he doesn’t produce well as a DH is the result of him most likely catching against LHP most of the time.

    If anyone wants to produce real money, the form of a wager, to justify spending the time to look up each game (I’ve looked up the 1st month and he caught about 75% of the time against LHP) I would be happy to oblige.

  52. Dean Winters June 27th, 2012 at 7:18 am

    Rich in NJ June 26th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Great effort by Hughes. I hope they aren’t developing him for another team.

    ————————

    If he brings back a valuable piece it could help the team going forward.

  53. blake June 27th, 2012 at 7:27 am

    “What happens when he finishes the season at 16-8 with an ERA around 3.70 and 170 K’s……He now has value and will cost the Yanks 4 years ( with an option ) 48 million…………Now what do you do,”

    Tough decision…..because if he does become that pitcher then that contract is a good value……

    but at the same time giving Hughes 12 million a year would throw a giant wrench into this 189 business……it would make it very difficult to keep both Cano and Granderson and it would make it very difficult to balance out the lineup IMO…..

    Tough decisions coming down the line for B. Cashman.

  54. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2012 at 7:32 am

    Good God. All you’re going to get by trading Hughes is a large hole in the rotation. He’s not going to be making $10-$12 mil a year. Closer to $7,$8 and $9 mil over 3 years.

  55. blake June 27th, 2012 at 7:33 am

    Hughes’s BA against is like .200 vs lefties this year as opposed to well over .300 against righties…..this seems strange…..but seems like hes much more comfortable pitching inside to lefties and also seems like hes able to use his curveball back door more effectively ……and also he uses his CU vs lefties……so basically he needs to become more proficient at pitching inside to righties and he needs to learn to mix in his CU vs righties as well.

  56. Dean Winters June 27th, 2012 at 7:35 am

    All you’re going to get by trading Hughes is a large hole in the rotation.

    ———————–

    A large hole? He’s the fifth starter on the team.

  57. blake June 27th, 2012 at 7:36 am

    “He’s not going to be making $10-$12 mil a year. Closer to $7,$8 and $9 mil over 3 years.”

    We have to wait and see…..if he has a good secojd half and carries it over to 2013 then he will get way more than that and probably closer to the 4/48 that Pat M suggested if not more…..its one of the questions the Yanks have to consider…..if Hughes takes off that would be great…..but what do you do with him then?

  58. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    There’s a chance that both Pettitte and Kuroda are both gone after this year. Cashman/Steinbrenner aren’t going to put 2 rookies into the rotation even if one stays. even at $10-$11 mil a year isn’t an outrageous price for a young and talented starter.

  59. blake June 27th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    “even at $10-$11 mil a year isn’t an outrageous price for a young and talented starter.”

    No its not…but thats not the question….the question is how are they going to give Hughes 10 million…..Granderson 15 million and Cano 20 million and stay under that soft cap after next year? Itll be tight with just Cano and Granderson…..now you coukd decide to keep Hughes and either trade Granderson or let him walk…..but then who is replacing him. We dont have all the answers now…..but Cash has some.big decisions coming.

  60. MG June 27th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    I’ll save everyone their money on the ‘Montero hits better while catching’ bet’, here are the numbers when he catches vs RHP or LHP starting pitchers (as well as all pitchers):

    AB Runs Hits HR RBI BB K BA
    All Games 110 12 34 5 13 6 22 0.309
    LHP 36 4 16 2 7 1 8 0.444
    RHP 74 8 18 3 6 5 14 0.243

    I’m not going to calculate the other stats but it is pretty clear that the splits show he rakes against lefties and struggles against righties both as a DH and as a catcher.

    If anyone wants the raw data to attempt to dispute it I will email it to Chad for him to verify.

  61. 86w183 June 27th, 2012 at 7:53 am

    Good morning all from saturated Florida…

    Hughes will likely double his salary for 2013. Beyond that is hard to say since the Yanks don’t seem inclined to offer multiple years. If he finishes the year strongly I’d try to get him to bite on three years, $ 30 M for some security. He effectively replaces Kuroda in pay, Nova replaces Pettite and Pineda and Phelps replace Hughes/Nova.

    That’s my plan anyway.

    Yanks really need two of three impending position player FA (Grandy, Cano, Swish) to stay at roughly the same $$$ or one (or two) of them will be gone.

  62. blake June 27th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    I think Montero is going to hit…..but right to overcome whatever is present in Seattle that makes nobody be able to hit. Safeco is the land where hitters go to die……nobody can hit there.

  63. austinmac June 27th, 2012 at 7:58 am

    The team must wait until the end of the year before considering a multi-year contract. If he pitches well, absolutely try to extend him.

    Pig is now a free agent. He has four days to sign. Has he ever worked out for the teams? The last I saw he cancelled it. That’s not exactly the way to create a market.

    Cespedes crushed one last night. He has amazing power. He is a free swinger but doing well for his first MlB shot. I still wish the Yankees had gotten him and/or Soler.

  64. blake June 27th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    “I’d try to get him to bite on three years, $ 30 M for some security.”

    yea that would be great….still a 10 million AAV deal to work around though. I dont really lnow what they are going to do…..personally I hope they say screw 189 and make the right baseball decisions ….but we shall see.

  65. austinmac June 27th, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Make that Puig.

  66. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Just from what Ive read on Puig…..sounds like he is more polished than Soler…..less polished than Cespedes …..with pretty good upside……at 20 hed have some development time…..

  67. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Yanks are on pace for 100 wins now with the best record in the bigs. Full 4 game lead on Baltimore though thr Sox are creeping towards 2nd place which is probably where theyll end up.

    If I had to guess now Id say itll end up NY, Boston, Tampa, Baltimore, Toronto.

  68. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:12 am

    Current Wild card teams would be the Orioles and Angels and the Giants and Braves. Imagine where the Giants woukd be if Lincecum was Lincecum ……hes been killing them.

  69. 86w183 June 27th, 2012 at 8:12 am

    Flip Tampa and Boston and I agree

  70. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    Heyward’s season OPS is up to .862 and .963 vs RHP……hes going to be a beast and will be a FA in 3 years at at 26 I believe.

  71. austinmac June 27th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Jiminez’ fastball has gone from averaging 96.1 in 2010 to 92.4 this year. That makes him a totally different pitcher. He is walking almost as many as the strikes out. Of course, now that I have said that he will be unhittable.

    I have seen the same comments on Puig but nothing on his arm, power speed or other tools. I would love, of course, the Yankees to sign him if he has an upside. Their sure isn’t much data since he was suspended by the Cubans a year or two ago.

  72. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    “Flip Tampa and Boston and I agree”

    That could happen…..but Tampa’s offense is really bad…..Boston has more talent on their roster…..a lot depends on Boston’s rotation health, getting Ellsbury, Crawford, and Bailey back….and what they do at the deadline.

  73. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:21 am

    Ive read Puig has a good arm and big time power….sounds like a good risk signing especially if hes cheaoer than Soler….

  74. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    One would think that the same teams on Soler woukd have interest in Puig….and Id also assume the Cubs would be out but you never know……Yanks and Braves were said to have the next highest bids for Soler…..guess just depends on how they like him….

  75. austinmac June 27th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    If Puig has true upside, go for him. I just wonder if they have a good scouting report. As has been said many times, they need young bats.

  76. Villa Nova-Ya June 27th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    blake -

    I guess in the new CBA landscape, it is almost not even worthwhile to speculate about players like Heyward getting to FA.

    I wonder what impact teams keeping their own young players signed up will have on the players who do reach FA? Like, in the case of Cano (and this is just hypothetical and speculative – I have done no research and have no idea what the situation is or will be), what if when he reaches FA no one really needs a second baseman (at least not enough to pay the big big bucks and length of contract)?

    Now, that probably doesn’t happen, but wouldn’t deflate what he’d get on the open market (or from the Yankees), if no one “needs” him?

    Or do teams do what the LAA did with Pujols? They really didn’t have a space for him, but they bumped other players around to fit him, right?

    I can’t get all caught up in what the Yankees will or won’t do, who they will or won’t sign/extend, etc., because it’s not something I can control, it’s not something about which I have all the facts, and it feels like an exercise in futility. But it really will be interesting to see what does actually happen (even though the speculative aspect of it is not interesting to me much at all).

  77. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Blake-Imagine where the Giants woukd be if Lincecum was Lincecum.
    —————————
    And if the Dodgers had MVP Matt Kemp?

    Good morning

  78. randy l. June 27th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    “If anyone wants the raw data to attempt to dispute it I will email it to Chad for him to verify.”

    how hard is it to provide a link to back up stats?

    i know i always do so people can look for themselves.

    if you don’t know how to put a link to the stats in your post i’m not sure you now how to gather the stats in the first place.

    easy to prove otherwise.

    give us a link to the web page you got these stats.

    stats are stats.

    if these are for real they are for real.

    but you gotta provide a link.

  79. Villa Nova-Ya June 27th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    The Dodgers are certainly dropping down to earth without Kemp.

  80. Betsy June 27th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Too bad the story in all the papers, based on the dumb questions at the press conference (yeah, you Mark Feinsand) and initial googling last night will be all about the call and not Phil’s performance.

  81. Betsy June 27th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    So trade Phil and then you’re left with an aging and swiss cheese rotation because Kuroda is not a long term option and either is Andy. You can hardly count on Banuelos no matter how talented he is and certainly not Betances.

  82. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    What’s wrong with Cory Wade?

    Last 5 outings 3 innings 7 earned runs and the night before gave up an inherited run charged to Kuroda, spoiling his shutout.”

    Did Girardi bring him in to build his confidence, or did Cashman want to see if he could pitch 3 days in a row, evaluate him, then make a decision whether to replace him in the bullpen?

  83. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    ” it is almost not even worthwhile to speculate about players like Heyward getting to FA.”

    Yea but its fun….the Bravee will probably try to lock him up sometime Id imagine.

  84. blake June 27th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    “So trade Phil and then you’re left with an aging and swiss cheese rotation because Kuroda is not a long term option and either is Andy”

    Yea….and sign him and you have budget issues…..its a bit of a problem.

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    GB7, Austinmac, MG and any other guys who enjoy this stuff, I think you would like this site which is dedicated to Yankee History, with a day by day link to the past:

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  86. Villa Nova-Ya June 27th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    blake -

    Fun for you! LOL

  87. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Baseball is pure entertainment.
    That circus non–catch was entertainment.
    Had the man in the red shirt not held up the ball on replay, who’s to say that the ball after popping out, while Wise was falling down, wasn’t trapped next to his body before touching the concrete.

  88. 86w183 June 27th, 2012 at 8:53 am

    The stupidity of the coverage is that if the right call is made, Cleveland is down 4 with two out and two strikes on a guy who hasn’t driven in a run in something like 40 at bats.

  89. Yankee Trader June 27th, 2012 at 8:53 am

    I guess my question about Cory Wade is answered on the New Post—>

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