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Martin in, Jeter out

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 27, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Curtis Granderson CF
Nick Swisher RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira DH
Raul Ibanez LF
Eric Chavez 1B
Russell Martin C
Jayson Nix SS

LHP Andy Pettitte

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158 Responses to “Martin in, Jeter out”

  1. DONNYBROOK June 27th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    - YANKEES BULLPEN REPORT -

    (1) CORY WADE – Appeared in 4 of previous 6 games.

    (2) RAFAEL SORIANO – Appeared in 3 of previous 4 games

  2. Rich in NJ June 27th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    “Not all pitching is considered equal.

    There’s no reason to get a deal done with Hughes right now. He’s had a couple of good starts. He’s also had a couple of lousy starts. Just like you wouldn’t release him after the start against Atlanta last week you don’t have to sign him to a new deal after a good start against a horrific offensive club this week.

    End of the season Cashman will see where things stand and make a decision.

    Given his level of inconsistency, not just this year but throughout his career, I honestly have no idea what his worth is.”

    Since 5/1:

    ERA: 3.71
    K/9: 8.2
    BB/9: 1.9
    K/BB: 4.27

    Yes, he gives up HR.

    Now, just because you start talking to his agent now, it doesn’t mean that you will get a deal done within a week, but you ascertain a framework and show a commitment to trying to keep him long-term.

    Sure, not all pitching is created equal. The true separation starts with serious arm injuries, and he hasn’t had one of those.

    As far as a decision and the timing, at the end of the season, he could easily cost $3m more per year. and ownership will have a lot of input (again, if the $189m is real), because there will be scarce dollars and as a result, franchise altering decisions.

  3. Rich in NJ June 27th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    “Even if you view Alex, Tex and CC as $ 70 M in “dead weight” that still leaves $ 119 M which to me is a lot of money.”

    It’s and you are leaving out Jeter (he likely isn’t paying for $8m), which could well bring it to close to $100m for four players. Then factor in that the $189m is really $179m after insurance/benefits are included, and it really isn’t that much money given career paths given the ages of the players they are paying the big, big bucks.

  4. Chip June 27th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    86w183 June 27th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    They also won’t be able to have two relief pitchers combining to earn over $ 25 M.
    ——————

    Every save Soriano notches brings him one step closer to opting out of the final year on his contract.

  5. LGY June 27th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Long night for Jetes?

  6. DONNYBROOK June 27th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    Where are all the Home Grown Huggers now? You guys oughtta be carrying Hughes around on your shoulders. Instead, we get crickets for Hughes, and wails of what might have been for Montero. Hughes has currently established himself as a legitimate 3 or 4 Slot MLB Chucker. Whatever the going rate for a 3 or 4 Slotter is, I would offer Hughes a little more than that NOW, for 3 of his Free Agent years.

  7. Chip June 27th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    Rich –

    Yes, by all means let’s base a multi year contract for a starter on 70 IP over 2 months rather than the entire balance of his career. As you know, the best decisions are made when using small sample sizes :-)

  8. Bronx Jeers June 27th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    If the Yanks want to move themselves out of the extreme deep end of the payroll pool then yeah, they need to reconsider their no-extensions policy.

  9. Chip June 27th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Bronx Jeers June 27th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    If the Yanks want to move themselves out of the extreme deep end of the payroll pool then yeah, they need to reconsider their no-extensions policy.
    ——————

    They have reconsidered it – they gave Cano an extension rather than going year-by-year.

  10. LGY June 27th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Where are all the Home Grown Huggers now? You guys oughtta be carrying Hughes around on your shoulders. Instead, we get crickets for Hughes, and wails of what might have been for Montero. Hughes has currently established himself as a legitimate 3 or 4 Slot MLB Chucker.

    ———-

    Not to take away from how well Hughes pitched last night (this is more a general point), but Yankee fans should be celebrating a homegrown guy touted for years as a frontline SP establishing himself as a bottom of the rotation pitcher?

  11. Jerkface June 27th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    I wouldn’t try to sign Hughes until the end of this year. And then it would have to be pretty friendly. His HR problem makes him incredibly risky for the Yankees.

  12. Jerkface June 27th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    They have reconsidered it – they gave Cano an extension rather than going year-by-year.

    Nah, they just bought out his arbitration. Very different. They had already done that with Jeter. The no extension policy is a bit different in practice. For example, once Cano got his contract, there is no more contract talk.

  13. Jerkface June 27th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    When a player is under team control, they have the opportunity to: Release the player for free, sign them to a 1 year deal of the teams choosing, sign them to another deal negotiated between the team and player, or if arb eligible they can go to arbitration for a 1 year deal.

    They chose one of the options available, but it wasn’t an extension.

  14. Bronx Jeers June 27th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    They did save a couple of bucks with that contract though.

    If Robbie was a FA last winter what’s he getting?

    7-8 years /150-170MM ?

  15. DONNYBROOK June 27th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    If you sign Hughes for a little more than the going rate for a 3 or 4 Slotter, you are factoring in his HR tendency. 3 or 4 Slotters are inclined to get dinged around. If the Yanks can lock Hughes up for 3 or 4 Slotter $$$, they should do it, and possibly avoid what Philly is going thru with Hamels.

  16. Shame Spencer June 27th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Cano would be crazy to sign an extension. The Yanks have already had him at a very nice price for quite a few years… not sure he needs to do them any more favors when this might be his one big payday. We’ll see, of course. I still think Kemp was on drugs when he signed that deal…

  17. Bo knows June 27th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Hughes was pitching to a Lefty lineup so his breaking balls were working well.

    He was getting some unusual action on his FB resulting in GBs. Maybe after all this time, he might become a pitcher, Lord willing and the creek don’t rise.

  18. Crawdaddy June 27th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    They also bought out Cano’s first two years of free agency as he could’ve been a free agent at the end of last year.

  19. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    It didn’t seem to make a difference to people on here the night before last when they were tooting Kuroda’s horn when he pitched well against the same “horrific offensive club”.

  20. Shame Spencer June 27th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    :arrow:

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    I would think Hughes would mow in some of those NL west ballparks…..

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