There’s no reason to get a deal done with Hughes right now. He’s had a couple of good starts. He’s also had a couple of lousy starts. Just like you wouldn’t release him after the start against Atlanta last week you don’t have to sign him to a new deal after a good start against a horrific offensive club this week.
End of the season Cashman will see where things stand and make a decision.
Given his level of inconsistency, not just this year but throughout his career, I honestly have no idea what his worth is.”
Yes, he gives up HR.
Now, just because you start talking to his agent now, it doesn’t mean that you will get a deal done within a week, but you ascertain a framework and show a commitment to trying to keep him long-term.
Sure, not all pitching is created equal. The true separation starts with serious arm injuries, and he hasn’t had one of those.
As far as a decision and the timing, at the end of the season, he could easily cost $3m more per year. and ownership will have a lot of input (again, if the $189m is real), because there will be scarce dollars and as a result, franchise altering decisions.
“Even if you view Alex, Tex and CC as $ 70 M in “dead weight” that still leaves $ 119 M which to me is a lot of money.”
It’s and you are leaving out Jeter (he likely isn’t paying for $8m), which could well bring it to close to $100m for four players. Then factor in that the $189m is really $179m after insurance/benefits are included, and it really isn’t that much money given career paths given the ages of the players they are paying the big, big bucks.
Where are all the Home Grown Huggers now? You guys oughtta be carrying Hughes around on your shoulders. Instead, we get crickets for Hughes, and wails of what might have been for Montero. Hughes has currently established himself as a legitimate 3 or 4 Slot MLB Chucker. Whatever the going rate for a 3 or 4 Slotter is, I would offer Hughes a little more than that NOW, for 3 of his Free Agent years.
Yes, by all means let’s base a multi year contract for a starter on 70 IP over 2 months rather than the entire balance of his career. As you know, the best decisions are made when using small sample sizes
Where are all the Home Grown Huggers now? You guys oughtta be carrying Hughes around on your shoulders. Instead, we get crickets for Hughes, and wails of what might have been for Montero. Hughes has currently established himself as a legitimate 3 or 4 Slot MLB Chucker.
Not to take away from how well Hughes pitched last night (this is more a general point), but Yankee fans should be celebrating a homegrown guy touted for years as a frontline SP establishing himself as a bottom of the rotation pitcher?
They have reconsidered it – they gave Cano an extension rather than going year-by-year.
Nah, they just bought out his arbitration. Very different. They had already done that with Jeter. The no extension policy is a bit different in practice. For example, once Cano got his contract, there is no more contract talk.
When a player is under team control, they have the opportunity to: Release the player for free, sign them to a 1 year deal of the teams choosing, sign them to another deal negotiated between the team and player, or if arb eligible they can go to arbitration for a 1 year deal.
They chose one of the options available, but it wasn’t an extension.
If you sign Hughes for a little more than the going rate for a 3 or 4 Slotter, you are factoring in his HR tendency. 3 or 4 Slotters are inclined to get dinged around. If the Yanks can lock Hughes up for 3 or 4 Slotter $$$, they should do it, and possibly avoid what Philly is going thru with Hamels.
Cano would be crazy to sign an extension. The Yanks have already had him at a very nice price for quite a few years… not sure he needs to do them any more favors when this might be his one big payday. We’ll see, of course. I still think Kemp was on drugs when he signed that deal…