Game 76: White Sox at Yankees
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YANKEES (46-29)
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Andruw Jones DH
Jayson Nix LF
Chris Stewart C
RHP Adam Warren (0-0, 0.00)
This will be Warren’s MLB debut
WHITE SOX (41-35)
Alejandro De Aza CF
Kevin Youkilis 3B
Adam Dunn DH
Paul Konerko 1B
Alex Rios RF
A.J. Pierzynski C
Dayan Viciedo LF
Alexei Ramirez SS
Gordan Beckham 2B
LHP Jose Quintana (2-1, 1.25)
Quintana has never faced any current Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network
WEATHER: Same as last night: hot and humid. Someone bring me a fan.
UMPIRES: HP Tim Timmons, 1B Jeff Kellogg, 2B Eric Cooper, 3B Marty Foster
WARREN DEBUTS: The 24-year-old Warren will make his MLB debut tonight, becoming the first Yankees pitcher to do so as a starter since Ian Kennedy on September 1, 2007 against the Rays.
RARE HOMER: The home run allowed to Viciedo last night was the first go-ahead home run allowed by a Yankees pitcher in the ninth inning with the Yankees leading since Ichiro hit one off Mariano Rivera on September 18, 2009.
HELLO CAL: With his seventh inning single last night, Jeter tied Cal Ripken Jr. for 13th place on the all-time hits list with 3,184. Jeter is currently tied for the AL lead with 96 hits on the season.
(Note: I’ll be updating the action here every so often, but I’ll be much more active on Twitter. To join the conversation, follow me @vzmercogliano.)
UPDATE, 7:31 p.m.: The Yankees couldn’t really ask for a better start. Two walks with two outs forced Warren to throw 25 pitches in the first, but he did not allow a run or a hit. In the bottom half of the inning, the Yankees exploded for four runs. Jeter led off with a double down the LF line, passing Cal Ripken Jr. for 13th on the all-time hits list with 3,185. That was followed by a two-run homer from Granderson (his 22nd of the season), and later a two-out, two-run double from Jones.
UPDATE, 7:46 p.m.: Just like that, the White Sox have tied things up. Warren doesn’t look like he’s fooling anyone, as four straight hits to begin the second inning resulted in four runs. Pierzynski hit a solo homer, Beckham added a two-run double, eventually scoring on Youkilis’ RBI groundout. Both Joe Girardi and Brian Cashman admitted that Warren doesn’t have great pure stuff, and it’s showing. His location hasn’t been terrible, but he looks awful hittable. We’re tied at 4-4 halfway through the second.
UPDATE, 8:08 p.m.: Warren is done after 2 1/3 innings. The White Sox were all over him, pounding out eight hits and six runs while making the rookie throw 77 pitches. David Phelps has come into replace him, and I expect to see him be stretched out a bit. He threw 50 pitches in his most recent minor league outing, and Girardi said they’ll let him go for 65-70 if necessary. If he pitches well, I’d expect him to get the start instead of Warren the next time through the rotation.
UPDATE, 8:41 p.m.: The Yankees have rallied back to tie the game at 6-6 thanks to a two-run single from Nix in the bottom of the fourth. Swisher walked and Jones hit his second double leading up to Nix’s big hit.
UPDATE, 8:49 p.m.: Phelps surrenders a solo homer to Pierzynski to leadoff the fifth and give Chicago a 7-6 lead.
UPDATE, 9:14 p.m.: David Phelps is done with two outs in the sixth after giving up an RBI single to Rios, which extended the White Sox lead to 8-6. Phelps seemed to lose a little steam at the end, but he was much better than Warren. He threw 64 pitches.
UPDATE, 9:33 p.m.: Alexei Ramirez just hit a two-run shot off of Cory Wade, and the White Sox have opened this one up a bit. They lead 10-6 in the seventh.
get it done Adam.
looking forward to a great game…
Let’s do this
Luis 500 ft HRs weren’t the norm back then either:
http://www.hittrackeronline.com/historic.php
Looking forward to this kid.
Go Warren Go Yankees!!
Thanks JF…Good tool to give you perspective
doesn’t seem like Quintana is going to throw a ton of pitches, no matter how patient you are. Hope the Yanks wait for a good pitch, even if it’s the first pitch, and hammer it.
Go Adam! Go Yanks!
Let’s go, boys, and good luck, kid!
Keep the fb down/ Trust your stuff!
Hey YF!! Long time no see in a game thread!!
Those were some nasty pitches… nicely done.
I was away from the TV for a minute, and at a distance, it sounded like idiot Michael Kay said Phelps looks like he’s Asian??? Did he?
Nice strikeout.
Atta boy, nice pitch.
pure confidence that first batter.
Nice beginning.
1st batter…1st MLB k!!
Nick,
it must have been frustrating in deed!! Especially with that ugly mustache he was using not so long ago
it’ll be interesting to see how girardi @#$% this one up tonight
This kid’s body language is impressive. He might be nervous but he’s not showing it.
wow. We got a popup in foul territory to stay in play.
really nice 2-0 CU there
Good CU
that changeup and the following fastball was pretty impressive to dunn…
That was a really good pitch for ball 4. Close to the zone.
why does Kay sound so shocked when a yankee pitcher throws above 92 MPH? LOL
Inside. I know it’s early, but the kid’s off speed stuff looks pretty good so far.. the movement is definitely there.
He has a serviceable CB as well
Don’t nibble Adam, go after them
Exhale.
At least we’re putting those empty legends seats to good use
Atta boy!! Good first inning
nice 1st big league inning…
nice first inning for tge kid
Good job.
trolls at it early tonight, On to our turn. Let’s get’em early.
Go Jeet!
Good for him. Didn’t let the strike 3 he had on Dunn, but didn’t get, bother him.
Now Yankees give him a big cushion.
lets score 5 or 6 so the kid can relax
So this guy is good. Didnt he used to be a part of our system?
I don’t know about you guys…But for me, the thing a like the most is watching the kids making it to the Big leagues…
Okay, Warren got through the 1st inning, lets put up a crooked number.
Derek Jeter….death to LHP
Atta boy, Jeet!!
El Capitan!!
Jeter ground one past Youkillis. I love the sound of those words
luis, yep. Sorry to see Abe with the hamstring injury. Thought he might get a look at some point.
YEAH!!!!!
so much for that scoreless inning streak
there goes the streak. Yankees are streak killers..
Grandy!
A YS especial!! Grandy thought he didn’t hit it well enough!! Go Grandy!!
btw, thats RISP….1-1
That’s kind of like I like to see in the 1st.
So much for that home run rate.
YF,
Yup
I read about it…I think it will depend on the extent of the injury…He was having a nice season
Yanks need to Johan Santana on this kid.
Why are you apologizing to the White Sox pitcher? Youre a New York Yankee Paul.
to go
Was there a point to Paulie’s mention of Instagram?
Tough luck there he scorched that one
Luis, “sore” can mean anything; hopefully, it isn’t too bad, but a hamstring injury always scares me.
Havent heard the YES guys mention one time so far that Quintana was in the Yankees organization up until this year. Kinda weak
A little late to the party but, WARREN
What BABIP takenth, BABIP giveth!!
Reverse jinx on Jones works… even if the pitch was up.
bam gave the newbie some runs!
Smile and the world smiles with you.
Blake….Jones Sucks!!!!!…Good call, reversed jinx!!
2-2 with risp
Jones!!
blake,
WE’RE DOOMED!
RealKev, Quintana is too obscure for their mainstream media notes
Kevin, so Quintana was in the Yankees org? Wow. Joe needs to just stick with Andruw against only LHP.
I worked my reverse jinx magic on Jonesy earlier today……you’re welcome
Jonesy sucks!
Blake
I’m buying a lottery ticket tonight, can you reverse jinx me like you did Jones ????
YF,
Yup..If it is a grade 1, he will be back in two weeks..If it is something more, it is months.
Kevin,
Really? didn’t know he was in our system.
Good inning…4-0 Nice and comfy lead…Keep it right there Adam!!
Quintana was not put on 40 man by Yankees and was signed as a FA by WS.
Another stat that blew up tonight-he was allowing 0.5 homers/game
astro,
You haven’t a chance in the world, loser.
Yankeefem,
Guess so. Can’t believe that fact didn’t make their little scouting report or w/e. Kinda pitiful IMO. U’d think someone woulda told them at least.
Mo mo,
Ya he spent 1 season with mets, 4 with us.
a 15-0 lead is comfortable. a 4-1 lead isn’t.
Thanks Tom ! Much appreciated
Danger. . . danger. . .danger
Bear down Warren
“If you can swing the bat, they’ll find a position for you to play.”
Lou, we need to talk.
Luis,
Yes he was. They let him walk after last season. He had good results but I guess they weren’t sold. His FB is pretty straight from what I see, ok velo, prob needs to be pretty accurate to be good. Havent really seen offspeed tonight so can’t comment on that. He’s still young, 23
astro,
Send me 10%, if you please.
Shoot.
OUr lead is as good as gone. Come back soon CC
But we have all this pitching depth. . . .
GB,
Yup, spoke too soon
Looks like we’ll be seeing Phelps. When did he pitch last?
This kid really stinks.
this is why securing last night’s win was important
Phelps was supposed to start today for Tampa, so I’d guess it is his 5th day.
He is making his debut…Do you really expect him to perform from the get go?…Those are impossibly lofty expectations
Check that, 4th day. Phelps pitched on the 25th.
luis June 29th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
He is making his debut…Do you really expect him to perform from the get go?…Those are impossibly lofty expectations
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Hey, welcome to New York and the big leagues kid. . . .
Stewart needs practice catching foul tips. Time to drag out the foul tpmachine, girardi.
I’m hoping the kid can gets into the 5th inning with a lead
foul ***tip machine***, girardi.
At this pace he will be lucky to get to the 4th
rm June 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I’m hoping the kid can gets into the 5th inning with a lead
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I think he is out in the fourth – Phelps will come in.
Just a bad inning after your team spots you four.
53 pitches
As the Boss used to say: he spit the bit.
Big time.
There you go.
The Red Sox just use anyone and everyone and they succeed. Prime example, Franklin Morales is successful for them. A loser nothing nobody like Morales can succeed… and right from the get go. But this kid just got shellacked.
Dang, and now we have Chris Stewart leading off. . . .
Why all the love for youklis? Didn’t he get run out of Boston cause of his surly disposition? I don’t like the guy.
Heathcott with his 2nd homer of the week.
I suspect Quintana will serve up some more runs. Game time temp is ?
I wouldn’t really call that getting shellacked, but whatever …
Bad inning, but Warren looks like he has MLB starting stuff at least. Prob not a super high ceiling or anything, but there are things to like.
why was igarashi called up only to be sent down?
brain fart?
luis,
You played ball. I played ball, Pat M. played ball, randy played ball, blake played ball, and a lot of others here did, too. Anybody ever have a tough time on their first start at a higher level? I did.
Man what a deflating last three days. Wednesday: the injuries, Thursday: a terrible loss, Friday: Let down so far
Last time I checked we were in first place…I guess not everything goes right in Sux land.
Stewie!!! Good bunt!!
This kid is an obvious graduate of the AJ Burnett school of pitching, where the philosophy is to squander any lead you are given, as fast as you can….
Stewart: leading off an inning: .333/.375
and it continues in a very sss.
Go Jeet!
Heathcott and Adams with homers.
Steeewwwwww!!!! Using the bunt and run tool!
He didnt tag him
Did he touch him?
They didnt show an adequate angle. Alright, now they did. He was out.
It really makes you appreciate pitchers like nova,and hughes more.
Getting ml hitters out is not easy.
We simply are not going to get the length from garcia,and phelps/warren/etc,and that is never a good thing.
Thank goodness we’ve got quality players like Stewie.
The stew giving and the stew takers away. At least he kept Jeter from hitting into the double play.
Stewart bunted, let’s not get carried away that he is some amazing lead off to an inning.
Stewart has hard time getting to second base running and throwing runners out at second
And Jeter grounds out. Just a complete turn of events. The euphoria of the first inning and now a bad, bad, bad second inning.
And the young pitching depth was highly exaggerated.
this kid gets 2 starts and phelps is the long man.
the talk of stretching phelps out was baffling..
Roller coaster of a game.
Hopefully the kid will setle down and give us a clean inning
And the young pitching depth was highly exaggerated.
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that’s why you can’t get enough…
Me too Tom…Almost nobody is able to perform from the get go in a higher level…To expect that on your first rodeo is well….You know.
andy IS the backbone of this team….july-aug w/out him won’t be easy.
Time for dinner. Bullpens will get tested tonght. Go Yankees.
time to get phelps up
Warren has pitched all of 2 innings in his mlb career… I don’t think that proves that the young pitching depth was exaggerated by any means. People here liked Phelps when he was up. If Warren can get through 5 it would be a pretty decent debut.
Adios. let the shellacking continue. oy vey
Phelps wasn’t available to start yet. Mitchell pitched 7 innings Tuesday. Warren was the only one available of the 3 and has been pitching well. But he is the most work in progress of those three. It is not like he is #one on the depth chart.
Can’t hang a slider like that. Gotta keep the ball down man.
the loss of MO will be felt more as the season wears on.
last night showed us that.
Adam Warren the pride of Carolina sigh
luis June 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Me too Tom…Almost nobody is able to perform from the get go in a higher level…To expect that on your first rodeo is well….You know.
*******
Stop making excuses. Adam Warren is in his twenties. The way some of you sound about these prospects, I almost think they are grammar school or something. He is a big boy, he either succeeds or doesn’t. Not every prospect can be a special snowflake.
Every year I am more and more impressed with just how great of a job Cashman has done rebuilding the farm system. Just loaded with talent…….pitchers coming out of our ears….the killer b’s (busted, broke, and baggin groceries) and then all these other studs. Wheewww!!!!!
I take it back. Stinks doesn’t even begin to describe this loser. Get him back to Scranton, or little league.
hey genius girardi go mixing and matching now.
Phelps won’t be getting any starts here if Freddy is good.
He will have to be stretched out all over again if he is needed.
Should have left him down there and found another long man.
but hey guys, we’ve got the great GB7 giving constant updates of duds like this guy.
And yes, I know this is the kid’s first game, so maybe he could become something eventually.
That YES shot of his parents after the Konerko homer was priceless. Theyre not sitting forward anymore. They see their son aint long for this game LOL
mster mick,
You are right , of course. On the other hand, the kid is going to get a no-decision, as the Yanks win this game.
take this guy out before all his confidence is shattered…he needs a few years in AAA
Can someone please wake up the Binder?
Does chris stewart have a fking clue where 2nd base is?
Stewart wtf man tryin to do too much
Ugh
Mitchell has been bad for the most part in AAA.
Warren is getting hammered now.
We will see with Phelps.
Betances is in AA.
Banuelos is injured (shocking, pitchers can get injured) plus he had a few good starts, but at the beginning of the year was still have his 2011 command issues
So there is your depth, meaning there was not that great of young pitching depth to begin with.
Just loaded with talent…….pitchers coming out of our ears…
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can’t have enough ….why he went for pineda.
he knew what he had down below.
ugh my goodness
I honestly don’t think he is this bad but good grief get him out of the game!!
Annnnnd another great throw by stew!
Go Stewie!! As in go anywhere far from the stadium, pllease.
he knew what he had down below.
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Bingo +1
I really didn’t think he would’ve been this bad. I’m listening to the game and not watching it but sounds like he isn’t fooling anyway. I was afraid of the lack of power AND lack of stuff. But now that Chad mentioned his location is good, his stuff may just not translate into getting major league hitters out.
I do feel for the kid. This has to be extremely disheartening. He probably never struggled like this before.
Phelps could have given them 65 pitches tonight and continued his stretching out process.
I like what Stewart has provided us so far this season… but I wondered at the beginning of the season..
How can the New York Yankees allow a no name no career guy like Stewart the honor of wearing the pinstripes.
Wasnt there a marginally better backup catcher available for less than $1 million more than Stewart? There had to be someone marginally better, even if the guy was worth 1 more win that Stewie. Kelly Shoppach is a backup catcher that could provide more than this guy.
hey, blake, the whole Yankees team sucks! (first place ntw)
Stewart is doing the exact opposite of what the Yanks thought he would do… He’s hitting pretty well actually but his throwing has been rough recently.
Let’s hope this brings about the end of Warren’s career as a Yankee.
I just got a text from someone I know who’s visiting Seattle:
“The red sox are in town and their toxic badly dressed fans are everywhere.”
In fact, Phelps could get Warren’s next start, let Warren be long man.
Then he might be ready if Freddy falls apart.
Much better sequence there (looking for any bright spot)
They should have started Phelps and worked to get him stretched out if he’s going to pitch at all. Otherwise he’s being wasted. He’s already proven he’s much more ready to pitch at this level. Warren or someone else should be broken in as long relief.
This team’s brain trust better hope Freddy can pitch like he did when he was going well last year.
After three innings…Yup his career is over
I think we can call Adam Warren’s tryout a failure. Next.
bringing up Igarashi then sending him back was absolutely mindless….beyond comprehension.
makes somebody look stupid.
Wow. This kid got ripped around.
As we say here in NC “bless his heart”
He should throw more changeups. Decent pitch or him and would help offset a not overpowering fastball
Tough love from Papa Warren…. no standing O for you, kid.
There’s a learning curve. Also hard to debut vs. White Sox, so I am not surprised by the results. Let’s hope Phelps has his location and we keep it close. We can hit Quintana, who’s been sitting forever.
The next time cashman uses the term “untouchable” I hope he chokes on his tongue. Mega doosch.
I think Phelps will get about 50-60 pitches and both Warren and Phelps will be sent back down after the game to bring back a fresh arm or two and maybe Cervelli
Bye bye Warren. Get the heck out of here.
Fredddy as the 5th man for 2 months moves Hughes and Nova to3 & 4 & more pressure.
Hope this domino effect doesn’t sting too much.
At least it’s early in the game right? Still plenty of time for the offense.
You may as well sit in the dugout as long as possible Phelpsy, who knows how many more times you may get this opp. haha
Luis – he didn’t even make three innings. So yeah, I think his Yankee career should be over. At least for this millennium.
good thing robertson is well rested. he’s going to have plenty of opportunities to save the game tonight. that girardi is almost as smart as bobby valentine
tomingeorgia June 29th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
hey, blake, the whole Yankees team sucks! (first place ntw)
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Warren’s going to be a decent pitcher, but, circumstances dictated that the first team he faces is team like Chicago that’s aggressive, knows he strike zone and has power. A team such as KC or Seattle would have been a better choice to break in against.
Thanks Lou…Wise words
Hope this isnt one of those nights that the offense has one early explosive inning and then dies for the rest of the night.
The White Sox can hit for sure.
Let Freddy and Phelps start and find a long man.
Mitre?
YF,
Good post
We’ve got 60 days without Andy Pettite. Warren will probably be back after the ASB
Good point GB and I agree, Warren is much better than he showed. Hope it doesn’t kill his confidence.
Good job phelps.
Atta boy Phelps…Good way to pick up your teammate
Warren’s going to be a decent pitcher,
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not here…
I feel for he kid. I’m sure not what he wanted.
So it’s up to he offense to pick him up.
I walked out with it 4-0 Yanks.
Came back and it’s 6-4 Sox.
I hate when that happens!
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Guess Warren didn’t fair so well
Phelps earned this start even if he had only 50-65 pitches in him.
Who is running the show?
Nice job by Phelps.
Phelps was the obvious choice to start this game…Unfortunately he wasn’t stretch out to do so….Tough assignment to debut against this WS team.
FTR…The team has sustained an inordinate amount of injuries to their pitching staff. If we didn’t have the depth…We wouldn’t be where we are.
gb7
Right. In a perfect world you can be eased into the ML. this was certainly trial by fire. Just hope he can keep good attitude and take something from this.
Oops, I meant Warren may as well sit in the dugout as long as possible.
GB7 would claim the living corpse of Peter Gammons would be a decent pitcher.
Yay offense!
You want Phelps to come in second because he can’t go long and he is used to long relief. If you start Phelps, you can’t go to Warren. Not fair to him. No one else (not Freddy) available for long relief.
Phelps was the obvious choice to start this game…Unfortunately he wasn’t stretch out to do so…
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what’s the difference if he gives you 4-5 innings now.
he could have started, then bring in igarashi for middle relief.
That was quick.
MMick,
See YF post…That’s why
Yankee hitters making Quintana look good these last two innings. Not showing much patience.
Please tell me the offense didn’t fall asleep.
I guess It’s Mitchell’s turn Wednesday?
See YF post…That’s why
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luis,
this kid was being tested big time.
lets see if he gets another…
disagree.
Joe Casale ?@sportsJC16
?#Yankees? have pitching talent in their system. However none of them get better. Most fail badly. That’s inexcusable. Waste of resources.
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Given ?#Yankees? complete inability to develop any consistent SP’s when do we question how this can happen given their resources?
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Well stated SJ44
Or I guess Phelps makes more sense, but with Mitchell as his caddy?
Another good k
cash will p/up some scrub off the scrap heap, which he did again today, for long relief.
Good thing that Binder Joe opted to start the guy who was stretched out. Got quite a nice 2 1/3 innings.
Joe Casale ?@sportsJC16
@boxcar45 He’s a RH Chase Wright.
LMAO!! Chase Wright, mr 4 straight homers for the Red Sox!
Phelps has really looked like a big league pitcher all year.
cofuzz,
Since Freddy is set to start, you had nobody for long relief…Phelps has the experience…It was the right call.
Nice 3rd k
so no one else can explain why igarashi was brought up, didn’t throw a pitch, then sent back?
and why girardi said phelps was being stretched out , only to be brought up for long relief?
Yankee fans suck
SJ isn’t afraid to make calls on players after one big league start…
Warren’s fastball is pretty straight and tonight he had very little depth to his slider…..he had a pretty good CU but didn’t really use it. He’ll learn from it but he’s going to have to locate better and get more tilt on that slider and learn to use his CU more to have success at this level….
I think Michell and Schwinden/Iggarashi will rotate up and down with Phelps/Warren until they figure out which one should stick
He was brought for last night’s game…They needed Phelps for this one
K Atta boy, David!
“Yankee fans suck
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This is not a fair representation.
Hey, the Knicks got a boost in their effort to retain Jeremy Lin!
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06.....ref=sports
you can see the difference in Phelps and Warren……Phelps changes eye levels….gets ahead…can use a variety of pitches to keep guys off balance….
what is igarashi’s role?
I think young starters can get two strikes on hitters but find it quite difficult to put hitters away. Especially if they don’t have power arms or that exceptional curveball. I know it sounds very trite but its the fact JACK…….
mick June 29th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
so no one else can explain why igarashi was brought up, didn’t throw a pitch, then sent back?
and why girardi said phelps was being stretched out , only to be brought up for long relief?
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I suspect they couldn’t get Phelps to NY in time for the game last night and Iggy was the next best option
This thing that the Yanks cant devolop pitching is gettin ridiculous. Let me name a few that have been develop with the Yanks:
Nova
Hughes
IPK
Quintanilla
Robertson
Joba
Noesi
You might soon add Phelps to that list also. And saying Warren sucks off his first start ever is just stupid. Now im not saying off the pitchers are goin to be HOF or even stars but they all have stuff to het hitters out. Cmon how many pitchers become aces??
Blake,
Phelps is an MLB pitcher….Warren has still ways to go…Very good assessment by the way
Phelps should get Warren’s next start b/c there is no guarantee Freddy can give length.
offense needs to step up and win a game tonight.
“Phelps should get Warren’s next start b/c there is no guarantee Freddy can give length”
he would have pitched today if he was stretched out……
Nick
True. I just committed one of the many Lohud fallacies. Correction. Some Yankee fans suck.
And I saw that about the Knicks. Great news!! Speaking of the Knicks I finally got to check out Clyde Frazier’s restaurant today for a late lunch/early dinner. That place is awesome. Got to shoot around a bit while waiting for dessert.
Iragashi was here yersterday for emergency only.Phelps was brought today for this purpose. Nobody knew what u were goin to get from Warren. So if Warren only gave u a couple of innings the Yanks had a capable long man. If you ask me it was a good call,on the Yanks part
Phelps could have given 5 innings today and still might.
Then you go to your middle relief.
good AB swish….lets go offense….
You suck Andrew!
Phelps would have started were he stretched out. Warren started only because Phelps was not available.
yes!
reverse curse works again
Atta boy, Druuuwster!
works every time…..can’t use it too often though or it’ll lose it’s magic
Like I said, we were going to hit Quintana. Tie game.
Mick, you and igarashi, give it a rest. I actually PREDICTED he would only be up for a day. So they could have an extra bp arm if needed because our bullpen was short yesterday, then sent him out for phelps for long relief for warren. It’s not a damn conspiracy.
Also, as another poster pointed out, maybe they just couldnt get phelps here in time. Phelps was playing for Tampa, he wasn’t in AAA…
new ballgame
Nice work Andruw.
I wish SJ ran the Yankees..and without payroll contraints. Ultimately, he knows talent, and knows how an org should be run and where resources should be allocated. He’s not overly attached to specific players.
Great work Nix!!
Jr1212
Good post
Watching on yahoo box… How did Nix “double to shortstop”?
getting a double when the ball didn’t pass the outfielders
mick June 29th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Phelps could have given 5 innings today and still might.
Then you go to your middle relief.
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The BP is already taxed….it was the right call…If he was stretched out already, then it is another story…You were expecting 4-5 innings or less from Warren and you had Phelps to cover most of the rest of the game without taxing the BP.
YES!! new ball game…Tom good call
new ballgame! Great job offense!
jp…thanks for the explanation.
How is Stewart not asked to bunt
Love Hustle doubles.
If SJ ran the Yankees, they’d be in sell mode every year on May 1st.
If SJ ran the Yankees Kuroda, Hughes, and Nova would all be in the bullpen and they would have no starters right now.
LGY, to clarify, when I said “this is not a fair representation”, I meant that the sample we’re getting in this LoHud game thread is not necessarily a fair representation of the fan base as a whole. But who knows, maybe it is.
Go Jeet!!
Carlo June 29th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Every year I am more and more impressed with just how great of a job Cashman has done rebuilding the farm system. Just loaded with talent…….pitchers coming out of our ears….the killer b’s (busted, broke, and baggin groceries) and then all these other studs. Wheewww!!!!!
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I don’t see the rays gazillion 1st round draft picks lighting it up either.
It is very difficult to pick,develop a stud player,but i think we have a few with austin,williams,sanchez,and as long as we can develop a few serviceable pitchers,we are fine,and we already have hughes,and nova.
Give me one ace,or close to it,and a solid 1/2,and we made out good.
jr1212….u2.
will warren get another start?
Not likely…Phelps should throw a fair amount of pitches tonight, so he should be ready for the next turn
sportsjc16
Its why pitching at the ML level is so tough. Also why fans overrating P prospects is fools gold. ?#Yankees
He’s takes more of a business approach. He’s not attached to players like us fans are. I still cant give up on Phil Hughes for whatever inane reason, but he knows Phil will never be anything and is a bust.
BABIP has been rough on Derek lately.
mick June 29th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
jr1212….u2.
will warren get another start?
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I think so
Haha no problem Mick. Igarashi was just here as an extra arm so they could save phelps for today in case Warren bombed, which he did. If phelps was up yesterday and had to pitch we would be screwed today lol.
Dont get me wrong, I dont like the guy, but if he ran the Yankees and without payroll contraints, we’d have better, more reliable, more established pitchers behind CC and Andy.
Good two posts jpmatrix
I’d start Phelps vs. Tampa too, especially considering we have an off day on the 5th before going to Boston for the weekend series. Therefore, we should have more bp flexibility.
Phelps should throw a fair amount of pitches tonight, so he should be ready for the next turn
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Then back to long relief unless CC is out longer..
In fact, he should go back down if Freddy does well but then they might not have a long reliever.
Mo mo,
He overreacts though. U can’t be attached to players, but you must have patience also and he is very much lacking that.
Adam: no decision, as I predicted. Don’t lose hope!
But we’ll see. I believe Girardi say Phelps would stay in long relief role.
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mick June 29th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Phelps should throw a fair amount of pitches tonight, so he should be ready for the next turn
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Then back to long relief unless CC is out longer..
In fact, he should go back down if Freddy does well but then they might not have a long reliever.
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I am not so sure….If i were the Yankees I would keep him instead of Garcia
sportsjc16
Fans always get upset when people criticize their prospects. When you take emotion out of it and look objectively at a player, especially P’s, it’s not hard to spot weaknesses & strengths. ?#Yankees? have real problems developing SP. That must change.
Again, spot on. We got lucky with Nova and Wang.
SJ is reactionary.
He is a media type trying to make a name.
They should stretch Phelps back out and best man between he and Freddy gets Andy’s starts til he comes back……
If i were the Yankees I would keep him instead of Garcia
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They have to give Freddy a few starts now but have Phelps ready in case he fails.
That’s why I said to send him down.
I don’t disagree that the Yanks have had issues developing starting pitching….but when you go off on twitter talking about it after a kid makes his first major league start then it kinda seems reactionary….Warren isn’t going to be a starter for the Yankees most likely….he never was even before today.
Yankeefem
I would hope that Girardi would have some flexibility there. Phelps would give them a better chance. But let’s see what happens tonight. If phelps stays strong maybe thy leave him in and continue to stretch him out here.
There’s that run that the Yankees blew last inning by not having Stewart bunt. Always happens
YF,
He was hoping for Warren to give them length and in that case Phelps would not throw enough pitches to continue his stretching…He will throw plenty of pitches tonight to continue that process, so i do think he will start next turn
I try Luis, I try!
So what do we think Lohud…Phelps on Wednesday? Warren? If Phelps, then what do we do with Warren? Phelps over Garcia when CC comes back?
I can’t stand AJ
Tomingeorgia, ” don’t lose hope ,” ………Never!!!
I’m pretty sure that the yankee pitchers have given up 600 homeruns this year.
You can’t throw away games when 1st place is essential again.
I don’t think Warrren gets another start in TB.
Go with Phelps and find a long man dammit…
yanks don’t need catchers like pierzynski. sign martin this off season instead – he’s way better
It seems as though Theo Epstien is really trying to make a big spash impression in Chi-Town…..There’s a club that wants Garza, is willing to take Soriano with some cash consideration from the Cubbies…….And yet he’s asking for the moon as if he’s in the cat bird seat…………LGY…..Walt ” Clyde ” Frazier and his fade away base line jumper…..My all time favorite
Point is, Yankees should have better talent in the minors. Better SP talent and better talent all around. Better coaches in the minors to develop players, mainly SP. Not sure whether Rothschild is a good pitching coach or not, but how about an elite pitching coach like that Cardinals Duncan guy.
SJ stopped posting here cause he’s nephew looks like a bust #SJ44
Said it before but SJ44 was one of the worst posters on the Lohud blog.
Don’t know why folks here care about what he thinks.
“There’s a club that wants Garza, is willing to take Soriano with some cash consideration from the Cubbies……”
Dodgers? I wouldn’t be surprised if Theo prices himself out of being able to trade Garza at all…..
Villa, Phelps is the logical choice to start and I think he can go another couple of innings. But we do have some choices. So, we’ll see what they do. And they can always bring up Mitchell as long man if they need to.
Warren probably doesnt get the next start with how Phelps has performed. He should be good for 75 pitches next time out. But that depends on how the bullpen performs the next week or so..i think Warren gets send down after the game tonite
Yanks gotta win this game with the bats….Phelps is pitching well but not sure how long he can go..
And the payroll constraints are absurd. The Yankees have more money that God, but we’ve gotta get under a certain $$ amount. As we continue to decrease our payroll, our team will get worse. Because of our lack of farm talent, and our lack of SP development, and because we’re going to lose our own players in the future. If George were alive and well, there probably wouldnt be any of this crap. He cared about winning. Cole Hamels would likely be on the wish list next offseason. To his son, this is just a business.
jpmatrix,
Phelps gets the nod IMO…You send Warren down…I would bring Mitchell in his place
I thought they said he can go to @80 pitches.
i think Warren gets send down after the game tonite
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Exactly. He served his purpose. They will figure it out,the bullpen is a process till the end of season.
Blake he was set for 70 pitches tonight
Due, Robi!!
“I thought they said he can go to @80 pitches.”
I thought they said 50 or 60 but maybe I was mistaken….if he can go 80 then he should be able to start in 5 days.
Why didn’t he start if he had 70-80 pitches?
Not what i expected…But i’ll take it
*sons
Mick,
He throws too many pitches and then can’t go deep…SSo you tax the BP even further
Yikes That was a balk
Balk
He might throw too many pitches early and then he can’t go deep so you end up taxing the BP even further.
I agree Luis. Thats what i would do. Bring up mitchell for long relief.
And that was an obvious balk. Disgusted that no ump called that a balk.
Horrible base running by cano dontcha know
Boneheaded inning.
“He threw 50 pitches in his most recent minor league outing, and Girardi said they’ll let him go for 65-70 if necessary”
luis…don’t you think he could have given us 5?
That pickoff was not the most impressive thing about Robinson Cano’s June.
Btw people phelps was given a max of 65 to 70 pitches tonight. Not 50, certainly not 80.
Pat
If Clyde is your all time favorite you’d love his restaurant. It’s like a shrine to him in there. Even the doors to the bathroom have his face on them lol.
Heckuva play by Teix!
Nice play by Tex!!
Tex!!! What a play!!!
Cant blame Cano for that. Clearly a balk. Nice work Teix!
Lou was kind of rough to listen to that opening series in Tampa, but him and O’Neill seem to have good chemistry.
A15 pitch increase per outing is safe.
mick June 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
luis…don’t you think he could have given us 5?
What happens if he throws 30 pitches in an early inning? Even if he is able to throw 5 innings, then you need to use the BP yet again and is already pretty taxed. Right call from the start, even the short outing from Warren might turn out to be a blessing in disguise, because he now continues his stretching.
2-2 pitch was a strike.
I think the Knicks will easily get Lin and Novak back, 2 good pieces. I hope theyre able to retain Jeffries too.
Cliff Lee got rocked again.
So Phelps is the one guy that can kind of pitch down in the big leagues now from AAA, but the Yanks buried him in the pen. Smh
Smh also at all the pitching depth.
Curveball on the outside corner
eboland11 Press box announcement: Youkilis left game with upset stomach. Somewhere Bobby Valentine is smiling
What does smh stand for?
Phelps isn’t ready for prime time yet – at least not for more than a couple of innings.
Did cliff lee give up 12 hits and 8 runs in 6 innings?
Luis, smh = shake(ing) my head.
Luis-
So much hate.
Niblick,
Phelps not ready for prime time based on this performance?? You really have high expectation for pitchers….
Looks we dodge a bullet not getting Cliff Lee.
Thanks guys…
Come on Jete!! bring that guy home!
A homer would be nice
So I scored some really sweet seats tonight, 11 rows behind the plate.
Look for the guy sweating profiously, that’s me.
It is not so much hate lolol it is shake my head. Someone needs to brush up on their acronyms.
SMH: send me home
people say it when they’re too drunk to think straight.
Game’s over if Wade’s in.
Matrix-
Urban dictionary.com, entry 6 states that both meanings are acceptable.
This loser Kay just said “chillax” after using the word “chill” last night. oy vey.
Is Joe punting this game?
I suddenly care a lot less about this game because I think our AC just went out…..
sportsJC16
Think assessing Warren after 1 start is hasty? Nope. His stuff is pedestrian. He can’t miss bats. 99 hits in 84 IP in AAA. #Yankees Warren doesn’t change eye levels and doesn’t miss bats. That doesn’t translate at the ML level. Tough to overcome.#Yankees
sportsJC16
Only stayed 10 hitters too long with a kid who can’t miss bats or hold a 4 run lead. He flunked his tryout. Back to AAA. #Yankees
sportsJC16
Its why pitching at the ML level is so tough. Also why fans overrating P prospects is fools gold. #Yankees
sportsJC16
Given #Yankees complete inability to develop any consistent SP’s when do we question how this can happen given their resources?
Wade needs to not pitch anymore.
Sigh.
Yuck
Wade keeping his stinking streak alive.
OMG!! Wade needs a week off
Obviously, he did punt.
Wades magic is gone forever….hurry back, Joba and Aardsma.
Wade’s ERA is all the way up past 5 now…. amazing.
Goodbye Wade. You cost us last nights game, and now you ended tonights game.
Yankees pitching is in a very tenuous and unstable position right now. They have to rely on 2 short-short inning guys (Eppley & Rapada) and one of their mainstays is struggling mightily (wade) and then their 2 big time SPs are also out and the people replacing them are simply volatile.
They are going to have to really step up to make it through this stretch without too much damage.
Wade has been proctorized due to the lack of Mo.
Wow. Wade still hasn’t been able to figure it out.
SMH……..
boy is Wade throwing the ball terribly, two of those curveballs before the HR were just floaters.
they are literally giving games away from the dugout right now.
Yanks will still get the tying run(s) on base at some point, but if this was a dog park, the Sox would be spinnging around three times and starting to sit on the pitchers mounds
The straw,
Every site says it is shake my head and every time ive ever seen it used is shake my head. So much hate is an alternate knock off. Thats like saying lol stands for lots of love.
This is why last game hurt so bad….
Wade should be on the dl. It’s obvious that he has nothing because his arm is so fatigued from pitching too much when Robertson was on the dl.
Where the F is Arod?
The Yankees will be buying out the remaining 4 years of his contract at this pace.
Last thing he said last season was “I’m coming back with a vengeance.”
.267 as a 4 hitter with weak power numbers is no vengeance. It’s inadequacy.
“Bronx Jeers June 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
SMH……..”
Finally, correct usage!
Christ. Wade has crapped the bed. Thanks Girardi. Good managing.
Wade might have options, so sending him down could be a thing.
I am glad that Joey binder saved Robertson for tonight. What a waste and now 2 losses in a row. Girardi really messed up last night.
They need to shut Wade down for a week or so. Something is not right there.
This game would not be nearly as annoying if Girardi just locked the game up with arguably the best relief pitcher in baseball in 2011 last night.
Is that the Lord himself in the second row behing the plate, above the H in Hankook?
If Rapada makes that throw Girardi didn’t mess up?
“So I scored some really sweet seats tonight, 11 rows behind the plate.
Look for the guy sweating profiously, that’s me.”
Jeers
I think I saw you!! Do you have a mullet?
brilliant mixing and matching by girardi tonight. but don’t use robertson again in the next 6 days though – he’s almost like 25. yes you are going to be cautious. that’s the ticket.
Jerkface June 29th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Wade might have options, so sending him down could be a thing.
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I don’t think so we claimed him off waivers about a year ago
Cliff Lee still no wins ….lol
Captain Clutch June 29th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Wade should be on the dl. It’s obvious that he has nothing because his arm is so fatigued from pitching too much when Robertson was on the dl.
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Wrong.
Wade had 4 full days off from June 11 to June 16 before starting this awful stretch where he has given up 9 runs in 4 innings.
Middle relievers are in their role because they aren’t that good or consistent, that’s why the names tend to change over all the time.
He’s only thrown 31 innings all season, if he’s pitching poorly (and he is) it’s on him for making bad pitches, no one else.
You know, pitchers arms don’t fall off because they throw pitches, that is why they are on the teams-starting pitchers throw 100+ pitches every 5 days plus throw a bullpen session in between, why is it always the manager’s fault for ‘overworking’ a reliever when the real cause is just that they aren’t that good (for the most part).
Grandy must be the easiest hitter in MLB for any pitcher-catcher to gameplan for
mick,
If Rapada makes the throw Girardi would have gotten away with one.. The right move was to bring Robertson at the start of the inning.. Saying that Robertson deserves most of the blame for throwing the pitch. Nothing wrong with criticizing Girardi but sometimes the player deserves some blame
Boy, one guy struggling put the entire pen in a funk
“Is that the Lord himself in the second row behing the plate, above the H in Hankook?”
I’m pretty sure it’s the ghost of Jerry Garcia.
Has a Cy Young winner ever gone an entire season winless, with 10+ starts?
Aardsma shut down with elbow pain….hopefully is not too much of setback
Nick – were you in GG park when Jerry died?
jr1212 June 29th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Aardsma shut down with elbow pain….hopefully is not too much of setback
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Probably from tweeting too much.
Goodbye Aardsma. Our strength of quality bullpen depth is out the window.
I don’t think so we claimed him off waivers about a year ago
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Being claimed off waivers doesn’t mean someone lacks options. And he was not claimed off waivers, he opted out of his minor league deal with the rays when they didnt call him up by his deadline and the Yankees signed him.
He was added to the 40 man in 2007 offseason, may have burned 1 in 2008 but didn’t use any the rest of his career.
I’m going to conclude that he has ~2 options left.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.3814710
Bad news…the pen could have used him….I especially don’t like Cashman saying, well, if not this year, then next year. I signed him for next year anyway.
I don’t know where I was the moment Jerry died, but I’m sure it wasn’t inside GG Park. I did drive by the impromptu shrine on the Haight/Ashbury corner later that night, I lived about 5 minutes away at the time. I might’ve hit up the Ben & Jerry’s while I was there.
It’s nice to see jones jogging down to 1st base. What a joke.
I still say part of this chain reaction began when Joe didn’t let Hughes go for the completion the other night, which led to Wade and then Soriano and then of course last night…….Under the current staff situation I think you try to extend your starters just a little more….I also thought that Nova could have gone a little more considering what happened to the paen the night before…….Spliting with Chicago at this point will be good…….Tough trip awaits the Bombers
Honestly, the more these “young arms” pitch, the more vindicated Cashman looks for trading for Pineda.
None of them, except maybe Banuelos if he can avoid being Pavano Jr., are even remotely rotation pitchers for the Yankees.
Their pitching “depth” was basically Andy deciding to unretire. The guys in the minors are all overrated and so far Cashman has been proven right for not trusting his depth and feeling the need to bolster it with a proven commodity.
And I wanted no part of the trade and still think Montero is going to be a stud, but have to look at the trade differently after seeing the system arms tank this year.
Did anyone read the article? Aardsma won’t be up July 19…..no where does it say he is done for 2012.
Nick in SF _ Tom avec Jerry_ great people up here!!!
“I still say part of this chain reaction began when Joe didn’t let Hughes go for the completion the other night, which led to Wade and then Soriano and then of course last night”
He didn’t know the bullpen would go in the tank as a result. They were all pitching so well until then, no one could have predicted this. He also expected to have Andy and CC the next 2 days, giving the bullpen a rest as well.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the next pitcher added to the Yankees bullpen (unless they pick up a guy from another major league team) is Ramon Ortiz.
He has been the best pitcher at Scranton this year and certainly isn’t someone the Yankees would worry about slowing his development.
He has started and relieved in the majors and may not be an attractive addition to those who want the Yankees to pitch their prospects but could easily fill a role that is needed over the next couple of months.
No it doesn’t say Aardsma won’t be up later this year but, Cashman saying that he signed him for 2013 anyway doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence that he’s going to be in the Bronx anytime soon.
I was just about to say Aardsma and Joba cannot get here soon enough.
This team is looking snakebit right now.
Once CC is back, this whole debate is moot. Kay goes on and on and on with his BS. Facts are that Kid pitched tonite and got lit up, no surprise there. 2 baserunning mistakes, ump squeezing zone for Dunn, LOBs and Wade still in a rut…I’m not saying we should book a room in SF for the WS, but eventhis game is coming down to driving some damm guys in
TD – vindicated? He’s the idiot who declared half of these soon to be zeros “untouchable”. Him and the rest of the fools gold chasing idiots who pretend to know farm system stars when they see them who annointed the Killer B’s.
Elbow pain, the guy’s done.
I still winnable game.
“rest of the fools gold chasing idiots who pretend to know farm system stars when they see them who annointed the Killer B’s.”
Carlo, you just accurately described GB7! haha. Guy thinks he knows what his eyes see.
*A
If Ibanez gets on does Joe G pinch hit for Stewart?
How many god damn hard hit balls of ours just go right at people?? At least 6 in the past 2 games.
The Rays gave away a bear with Don Zimmer’s head on it….
AndrewMarchand Here is the Zimmer Bear again. twitpic.com/a21prk
Poor kids will have nightmares
TD – vindicated? He’s the idiot who declared half of these soon to be zeros “untouchable”. Him and the rest of the fools gold chasing idiots who pretend to know farm system stars when they see them who annointed the Killer B’s.
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yeah, I agree. He is the fool who said that Warren, Mitchell, Phelps, would be in the rotations of 25 teams in baseball. Last year he said Noesi (that of the 7 ERA this year) would be a #3 starter in other team’s rotations while his cronies in the media kept saying he will be better than Nova.
The team simply has no ability to scout their own. Where are their hard-throwing young studs? Just soft tosser after soft tosser, a bunch of 0s with “pitchability and 3 above average pitches” who can’t get anyone out. Their one hard thrower is walking 10 guys per 9.
The team’s pitching development continues to be a joke. SJ all over them on twitter tonigh
yankeefeminista June 29th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
“I still winnable game.”
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Yes indeed. It ain’t ovuh til it’s ovuh!
Its funny that last night after Nova’s performance nobody mentioned that Yanks pitching development. Only after a bad start is when its mentioned
Hey Tarheel! Grandy just needs to make solid contact with one of these fastballs.
Paul’s managing philosophy is definitely anti-Girardi.
Compact swing Grandy
Probably because the same people wanted Nova traded and are still going start to start with him.
I’m pretty sure Wade used up his options in 2007, 2009, and 2010. Yes he was released by Tampa Bay from the minors we didn’t claim him,
I love it when they talk about how nicely the ball comes out of such and such a prospects hand. Oh, banuelos, ball comes out of his hand so easily. This ease of release makes him “untouchable”, he cannot be touched. Not even jerry sandusky can touch him. Brian will not allow it.
this blog is never happier than when the Yankees are losing games and so many posters can vent their frustrations.
Meanwhile, even with a loss tonight they are no worse than 4 games on top.
I can only imagine the complaints if they were 4 games out with these injuries…
Hey YF!
Exactly. It’s still doable!
Warren’s next start is at Fenway, BTW.
Man that is going to be a rough series
yankeefeminista June 29th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Probably because the same people wanted Nova traded and are still going start to start with him.
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yankeefeminista,
Its like some here want the young pitching to fail just to say I told you so….
Jr – they had zero aspirations for nova. Literally would have thrown him into any deal. The yankees had no clue nova was as good as he has proven to be.
I still don’t understand why these soft-tossers with no upside continue to get shots in the rotation when they have no chance of success in the AL East while someone like Joba with his power stuff is relegated to middle relief. Talk about a twisted philosophy.
yankee 221,
I think his next turn will be at Tampa, IF he gets the start
hahaha Carlo! I loved the sandusky comment! The only guy here that constantly does it and knows nothing about baseball is GB7.
I would think Phelps would get the start in Tampa
If Warren pitches at Fenway, we’ll need to score seven runs every inning, not just the 7th and 8th. Where’s Chad Gaudin when you need him?
Carlo,
Thats not true, the Lee- Montero deal was off when the Mariners also asked for Nova. Also Nova has developed into a good SP, you think the Yanks had nothing to do with it?
I’m pretty sure Wade used up his options in 2007, 2009, and 2010. Yes he was released by Tampa Bay from the minors we didn’t claim him,
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No, he was injured in 2010 and then DFA’d. He has atleast 1 option. He wasn’t on the 40 man to start 2007, so they would not use an option then. He had to be added to protect from the rule 5 draft. He didn’t spend a long enough time in the minors in 2008 to use an option. So the only option that could have been used was in 2009.
Man that’s a hanger….Wade is awful right now.
Wade 50 pitches. Taking one for the team.
jr1212, thats a complete lie.
We want MO MO,
http://articles.nydailynews.co.....-ivan-nova
the pitch that has deserted Wade is his change, which was really good last year and was used as his out pitch.
He’s trying to get outs with a fastball more useful in batting practice and a bad curveball, it has nothing to do with fatigue and everything to do with confidence, which seems completely gone for him right now.
Right now Wade is taking one bullet for the team…It shows how low he is in the pecking order..He needs some time off
Either girardi is trying to blow out wades arm or he will be in AAA tomorrow. 3 innings and 60 pitches is way too much for him.
Nova throws a sinking fastball in the mid 90s with plus velocity and has a plus off-speed offering and has quickly developed other workable, improving secondary stuff. He had a good foundation to work off of. He never missed enough bats in the minors, but he did throw hard.
Nothing like guys like Phelps, Warren, Mitchell, etc. Next we’re going to hear about the great Brett Marshall and his 4 Ks per 9. The team is lacking heavily in the power arms department in the minors. These “pitchability guys” go nowhere.
Settle down, don’t let this one get away.
If Joe stretching out Wade to be a starter? WTH is he doing?
Wade might need oxygen to get through this inning. I knew things would be rough when Andy went down but I didn’t expect the pen to collapse like this.
The nova piece of the lee deal was unconfirmed. Some say adams injury ruined it.
Sure, nova succeeded despite the yanks or with their help, whatever is fine. Most fail.
Nice tag dck.
I don’t think this Girardi is going to say thanks Wade for taking one for the team. I think Joe allowing him to throw nearly 60 pitches shows you what he thinks of him at this point. He is pitching in a mop up roll right now. If he did his job, we would be a run behind and Wade certainly would be done after an inning.
The pitching is really a disaster right now. The bullpen is extremely short and will slowly fall apart.
Looks like Joe really does not want to use Soriano/Robertson/Logan.
55 pitches, bring Logan in.
Hands up all those who still think Stewart is an upgrade on Cervelli?
martin wussed out from contact
Nice block of home plate Russ. Better that you dont get hurt in a meaningless situation.
jr, we had a deal for Lee, and the Mariners took our deal to the Rangers to get them to give them Smoak.
LGY,
trying to save the pen for the next two games
Montgomery and Nick Goody need to be up here by August sometime. Stop babying these guys. Joba went from EST to the majors in 3 months.
Carlo,
Most do fail but not only for the Yanks… for most teams. If every prospect hit for every team then no team will ever have a weakness
our .190something catcher is now shy of blocking the plate? Are you kidding me?
Wade has been a very important piece to the bullpen for the past year.
Really disappointing to see Joe leave him out to dry like this.
I’d think with the off day, Boston series would be something like: Kuroda-Fri, Hughes-Sat, Freddy-Sat, Nova-Sunday. Rays should be Freddy—Monday, Nova-Tues, Phelps or… -Wed.
Wade has thrown nearly as many pitches as Phelps.
Someone throw in the towel.
The mixing and matching is blowing guys’ arms out too because they are pitching everyday…….
They badly need new talent in the pen. The clock will strike midnight very quickly for guys like Rapada and Epply if they are now going to be in high leverage innings every night………….
My bad. Didn’t realize Martin had come in the game.
Boy, I don’t like the way the ball is coming out of wades hand tonight.
This is embarrassing. I don’t care if the white sox are in 1st place or last. Their lineup isnt impressive and they stink.
mix and match. girardi schooling ventura all night
You cant have emotions, LGY, when youre managing. Joe shouldve left Wade out there until his arm fell off. He’s struggled for much of the last 2 months. He may as well be done.
Dewayne Wise in, towel thrown.
Wise is pitching?
here we go.
Wise
Wise should have started.
I would be baffled if Wise pitches better than Wade.
The White Sox are a good hitting team, all the stronger now that Youk has arrived. I’d much rather have their bottom half of the order than ours. They’ll give the Tigers a run for their money this year.
never mind. Wise is pitching. If thats your plan, then yeah you take out Wade and dont let him get seriously hurt.
We want Mo Mo,
The reason they went to the Rangers was because they believed they were not getting enough with Montero only. They thought that Smoak was a better player than Montero. Now if the Yanks would have added Nova would they have taken the Yanks package?
Helluva job, Wise. I hope Wade’s arm is OK.
So people are angry?
Well, we know who’s pitching at Tampa on Wednesday!!!!
As a baseball fan I will always like wise for the perfect game catch but him pitching is icing on the cake
GENIUS mix and match. ventura taking notes
Nice job by Wisey! Mercifully, that inning is finally over.
jr,
Thank God they didn’t offered Nova…We sure would be in a pickle right now
We Want Mo Mo June 29th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
You cant have emotions, LGY, when youre managing. Joe shouldve left Wade out there until his arm fell off. He’s struggled for much of the last 2 months. He may as well be done.
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You definitely need to manage with emotion to some extent. I have always felt the most difficult thing about being an MLB manager is managing the clubhouse and commanding respect from your players.
In terms of in game managing they really don’t have much impact and I bet someone from a statistical background would do a better job than most MLB managers.
What Joe did to Wade was f’d up.
The bullpen really needs more good arms. This team is going to be in trouble. They better hope that epply and rapada don’t lose the magic pixie dust.
Well if you are gonna lose go down in style with your fourth of pitching, at least that adds some intrigue
time for the hail mary
Amazing how Sox can find nobodies like Atchison, Andrew Miller, Morales, Albers, etc. who have sucked everywhere else but are pitching exceptionally well this year/
Hell, they put Morales in as a fill-in starter and he looks like Kershaw in the rotation- Meanwhile, we can’t even find a damn guy from AAA to keep us in a ballgame. It is why if we don’t get our heads in the game, this division will be tied by the ASB.
The White Sox were clearly invigorated when they didn’t have to look at Youk’s face anymore.
But by all means, keep screeching about Cashman and Girardi.
Wise should have pitched the ninth last night
There’s no reason to be angry. Last night was the winnable game. Tonight was a rookie nobody.
I’m not angry, just disappointed that we gave Warren a sizable lead and he couldn’t even get out of the third inning. As I said the other day, the timing of our injuries couldn’t be worse in terms of the opposition we are facing leading up to ASB.
luis,
After CC, Nova is my favorite pitcher to watch. Not only for the stuff but the presence he has on the mound.
Why not try Wise in the pen? He can’t be worse than what they have. Not like he can hit anyway
guy looks like Garret Morris
Today is a terrible day in Yankee land. Adam didn’t have a chance. Wade has a dead arm. And the Yankeea may lose a game on everyone in the division.
On the bright side. We have 4 games to play with after this game.
ventura completely out-managed by the brilliant girardi these 2 games. cashman needs to talk to the steinbrenner boys about an extention
Melk, we’ve done the same thing with Rapada, Boone, and others in the bullpen.
Them getting Morales to be successful is sickening.
jr1212 June 29th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
luis,
After CC, Nova is my favorite pitcher to watch. Not only for the stuff but the presence he has on the mound.
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Yup…The kid has moxie…
Trisha – #1 Yankee fan – I hope you are o.k..
Ok melk man lets be real, yankees have gotten lucky with cast offs before. Aaron small, chacon, rapada, colon, freddy etc
I hope a reporter says to Girardi are you happy that you saved Robertson for tonight?
IMO, this goes back to the fact that the Yankees have no HFA anymore. Teams come in here with no intimidation and play as if it is a neutral field. Stadium is dead and had no atmosphere. No noise, no nasty fans, nothing to throw the opponent off.
Could well drop a game to all four of our AL East rivals tonight. Lot of pressure on Hughes and Kuroda this weekend to go deep.
LGY……Wait until they DFA him tomorrow or the day after
luis June 29th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
jr1212 June 29th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
luis,
After CC, Nova is my favorite pitcher to watch. Not only for the stuff but the presence he has on the mound.
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Yup…The kid has moxie…
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He sure does! Remember this? I loved it when Bautista puffed out his chest and barked at Ivan…and Ivan barked right back
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=11294919
No one asked Robertson to serve up a meatball. He is the king of coming into games with runners on in tight games, that shouldn’t have thrown him off.
Not really Bruce…The whole idea of Wade pitching this long was to give a breather to the rest of the pen…BP will be rested tomorrow except Rapada
I don’t suppose anyone here predicted Wise as the heir to Mo?
Tricia has seen a ton of positives over the last 36 hours in yankee baseball world.
nevre before has 7 runs felt so much like a shutout
LGY……Wait until they DFA him tomorrow or the day after
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Why would they DFA him when he has options and was very good for them until quite recently?
Melk Man June 29th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
The mixing and matching is blowing guys’ arms out too because they are pitching everyday…….
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This is a major issue. Pitching to one or two guys isn’t like “getting the day off”…
Really tough break for Cards Chris Carpenter.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....757673-996
On another front, “Zona’s Aaron Hill has hit fo the cycle for the 2nd time this year. Last time somebody did that twice in a year was back in the early 1930s, Babe Herman.
GB7 – Gabe Herman !,…………. Who shares ?
Sorry !,,,,,” Babe ,”………Hermam.
” Herman ,” …………sorry.