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Yankees lineup

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jun 30, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

1. Jeter SS
2. Granderson CF
3. Rodriguez 3B
4. Cano 2B
5. Teixeira 1B
6. Swisher DH
7. Ibanez RF
8. Martin C
9. Wise LF
Kuroda P

 
 

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57 Responses to “Yankees lineup”

  1. ron June 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Try to package a warren/phelps/mitchell,maybe some prospects that won’t be position regulars,for a pitcher,maybe a lee using betances.

    Betances is like 24 years old,and i don’t see him making it.
    I’d even trade phelps.

    With cc,nova,hughes,banuelos,and other top pitching prospects,including free agency,i don’t see warren,phelps getting a spot.
    Warren,phelps,and some lower level position players should get us a pettitte replacement.
    Maybe even greinke,using betances.

  2. ron June 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    If i am cashman,i am on the phone with the brewers for greinke.
    Betances,phelps,and someone else to get us back on track.

  3. RSM June 30th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    I wouldn’t assume Philly are sellers. There is truly a different mindset in their front office now. They’re hooked on winning, and the attendance and revenues that go with it. If they can’t extend Hamels, and I don’t think they will, I don’t see them dealing Lee.

  4. Mike in Harrisburg June 30th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Does Greinke have any kind of no-trade clause? He’s said he doesn’t want to pitch in big markets due to his social anxiety disorder or whatever and I can picture it turning out just like other good pitchers who come to New York and can’t hack it.

  5. blake June 30th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    25 million bucks a year for 0-5 and 4+ era Cliff Lee? no thanks on that one…..obviously he’s better than those numbers indicate but his contract would wreck their future plans….Philly would have to eat a ton of it before I’d even consider that at this point.

  6. blake June 30th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Nobody wants Betances. If you want Greinke then the price would start with probably Banuelos and somebody off the Charleston club…..they’d actually probably ask for Nova first.

  7. blake June 30th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    I wouldn’t count on Philly selling either but they absolutely should…..

  8. randy l. June 30th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    “As for the fans’ grumbling, the Yankees are in big trouble, going forward if they let some disgruntled and uninformed fans affect allowing kids to develop under the bright lights. Teach the fans what development entails. Then, stick to a plan. We have done a pretty good job with Nova and Hughes regardless of the fans’ fickleness regarding the two.”

    yankee feminista-

    there’s a lot of layers to what you’re saying. i agree with some and disagree with some.

    i believe that the yankees have a fan base that has a collective wisdom that goes back to the time of ruth and gehrig. i can talk with my father about what he saw when he saw warren yesterday and get a view point from someone who’s watched 6-7 generations of yankee players. i’ve seen about five generations myself. add all the people in the biggest fan base of any sports team in history and it would be crazy to ignore the collective wisdom of this crowd.

    however i agree it would be also crazy to pay too much attention to individual fans who may or may not know much about the game.

    there are players who thrive under the spotlight of this fanbase. nettles ,munson, guidry, jeter, posada, mo etc. we’ve seen nova step it up under this pressure. where does this pressure come from?

    surely it’s not juts from yankee management? when a player steps onto that mound and 50,000 fans are watching that’s where the pressure is. i doubt many players are thinking of cashman at that point.

    fans matter, but it is at the macro level in a wisdom of the crowd level. when the whole fan base is behind a player, then you know that player is a keeper.

  9. LGY June 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Too much overreaction to one bad start from Warren IMO. Just weather the storm for a couple weeks until CC gets back and things will look a lot better.

  10. yankeefeminista June 30th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    repost:

    yankeefeminista June 30th, 2012 at 11:05 am
    Randy, they weren’t behind Alex, and he persevered. Nor were they behind Hughes. It is hard to determine whether talent will rise up no matter the obstacles or if makeup delivers talent to the level of success.

    As for the collective wisdom of the fans; I don’t see much wisdom, let alone collective wisdom at Yankee Stadium, going back for many years. Would that those fans could be as wise as their history should make them. However, they are clearly not. Especially not those people who attend games; the wisdom is drowned out by the booing of the knee-jerk and uninformed. Is there a greater primordial wisdom that transcends time and space? Maybe, but hard to quantify that… So, I agree and disagree, as well.

  11. LGY June 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Don’t see any reason why the Yankees can’t live with Garcia or Phelps in the 5th slot.

    I’m a big Chief fan but the Yanks need to think about the future with 189 looming, so I’d prefer they see what they have in Phelps.

  12. yankeefeminista June 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    repost:

    yankeefeminista June 30th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    It would take a haul to get Greinke; Betances just got demoted to AA, so his value is limited. You’d need Banuelos and two additional A (elite) prospects, likely. Again, we should be fine for the timing being if CC comes back when he is supposed to.

  13. blake June 30th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    “I’m a big Chief fan but the Yanks need to think about the future with 189 looming, so I’d prefer they see what they have in Phelps.”

    I agree….I think Phelps can pitch at this level and him showing that helps the Yankees now, for the future, and also boosts his trade value. I’d put Freddy back in the role he was in when CC comes back because he’s proven now that he can have success at it….

  14. yankeefeminista June 30th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Again, we shouldn’t overreact; we have Phelps and Freddy filling in over the next week, an off day Thursday, and the ASB, after which CC should hopefully return to the rotation.

  15. blake June 30th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    sounds like Carlos Lee to the Dodgers might be happening soon.

  16. blake June 30th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Need Hiro to be a hero today

  17. mick June 30th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    To disparage 60% of in house fans (30 of 50k as once mentioned) is quite a generalization and classifies one as a member of the intelligencia, yathink?

  18. randy l. June 30th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    yankee feminista-

    you’re so close to the action at yankee stadium that you see a lot of stupid people up close and personal.

    what i’m talking about is a whole lot of people, millions watching the game over years and years and having feelings about players when they see them.

    the fans tend to get it right when a long perspective is taken. i agree short term there are a lot of knee jerk reactions.

    as far as alex, i think his contract has been a really bad one for the yankees and i’ll be glad when he’s gone.

  19. mick June 30th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    most of the criticism of yank fans at LoHud comes from out of town yank fans…

  20. choochoo June 30th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    It is hilarious how fans want to package of bunch of players in a trade who they think will never be useful or make the team for an established successful player.
    Maybe they think the other team isn’t watching just how mundane these guys are.
    For instance, Betances is about 6 weeks away from an outright release–similar to Brackman. Warren showed last night what his ceiling will be. Phelps? dime a dozen. Banuelos? major regression, injury prone. So… Let’s package them all together for a former Cy Young winner, who is still sound.

  21. There Will Never Be Another Mo June 30th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    If the kids succeed, they succeed. If they don’t, they don’t. They are grown adults. Just b/c you some are in their 40s, 50s, and 60s on this board and the prospects are in their early twenties, they are not kids. They are legal adults. It is not like we are dealing with eight or nine years olds. You move on to the next one. If Warren gets another shot, great, if not, he will not be the first to fail in NY.

    And another thing, the paternalism shown towards these prospects is becoming disturbing. They are special snow flakes, given so much leash. You either get the results or you do not. If you do, you hear the cheers. If you do not, you hear the boos.

    No one is crying for Adam Warren. He was added to 40 man roster, he has mlb union privileges now. He can now have his contracts renewed for over $400,000.00. I am not crying for him or any other prospect suspect does not succeed. If he succeeds, great for the franchise. Root for the team, not the farm system. And stop blaming it on player development or pitching coaches, these are grown men again, in their 20s. It is their responsibility. Blaming the coach is no different than baby boomer parents blaming a teacher because their kid got four stars instead three for art class.

  22. Against All Odds June 30th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    You either get the results or you do not. If you do, you hear the cheers. If you do not, you hear the boos.

    ———————–

    You’re booing a kid making his pro debut in the majors(the highest level of competition). If he is given a number of starts and fails then ok but after one start it can’t be you better put up or shut up kid. That’s one reason the farm was a barren wasteland for X number of yrs.

  23. Against All Odds June 30th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Warren showed last night what his ceiling will be.

    —————————-

    After one start???????????

  24. DONNYBROOK June 30th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    - YANKEES BULLPEN REPORT -

    (1) CLAY RAPADA – Appeared in 6 of previous 8 games.

    (2) CORY WADE – Appeared in 4 of previous 8 games.

  25. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 30th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Dewayne Wise needs an opportunity to soak up additional innings! Yeah Dewayne!

  26. yankeefeminista June 30th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Got to go but that “disparaging” was re those booing Alex. If you were there, you know that. Saw it ad nauseum. It was sickening. But paying customers can do what they want. However, I wouldn’t give them any special status just because they know how to buy tickets to go to the Stadium. It would be nice if it did, but that does not give them a Yankee pedigree. Randy, I get what you are saying. Both so true and not so true. More Later

  27. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 30th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Phelp’s is looking very good. The body language and the attitude demonstrated warrior status. He’s a Paul O’Neil warrior imo. He’s a keepa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  28. mick June 30th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    what is happening to the pen was inevitable. once Mo went down they were bound to be taxed and it now kicking in. rapada and wade are earmarked to be replaced and logan has emerged as one of their elite. it will be interesting to see how rapada reacts to his gaffe the other night as he took it pretty hard.

  29. DONNYBROOK June 30th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    I do Not know what you guys expected outta Warren. He had given up More Hits than IP to AAA Sticks. If Robertson had done his job in the 9th Thur night, there would Not be all this fuss about the rotation. A 2 game losing streak tends to bring out the Chicken Littles.

  30. jacksquat June 30th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Not overreacting to Warren’s bad start, but Phelps is clearly a better pitcher now. He should make the next start in place of CC and when CC gets back it should be between him and Garcia for the Pettitte spot.

  31. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 30th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Paying customers or fans or whateva can do what they want. Maybe Obozo will tax fans for lack of cheering? Oh, the cheering meter is low, time to tax!!!!!!!

  32. mick June 30th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    As for the collective wisdom of the fans; I don’t see much wisdom, let alone collective wisdom at Yankee Stadium, going back for many years.
    =================================
    to the uninformed this smells of disparagement.

  33. There Will Never Be Another Mo June 30th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    5. Luis Torrens, C, Venezuela

    Torrens era 3B, pero será firmado como receptor, probablemente por los Yankees. El gran talento de Torres es que batea, batea y batea.

    ****

    7. Wendell Rijo, SS, Dominicana

    Torpedero de grandes condiciones. Hijo del buscatalento Rafael Rijo, de los Dodgers. Rumores lo ubican firmando por cerca de $800 mil con Yankees.

    8. Alexander Palma, OF, Venezuela

    Jardinero con tamaño y poder, producto de la escuela de Carlos Guillén en Valencia. Los Yankees están muy interesados.

  34. mick June 30th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    phelps looks like and reminds me of mussina…

  35. choochoo June 30th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Against All Odds–When a career baseball man and a so respected one like Lou Piniella tells the world that the pitcher’s delivery is not conducive to fooling anyone, that he is easy to read, that his pitches are straight—rest assure that’s about 10 per cent of what he really sees with a pitcher. A guy like Piniella can make a judgment and be right a high percentage of the time in about 10 pitches.

  36. mick June 30th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Warren did not earn the start . He pitched b/c we had no one else and will not pitch again next week. They expected nothing from him. To judge him is unfair as he was thrown into the fire.

  37. DONNYBROOK June 30th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    A $30 Mill slugger, turning into a Punch-and-Judy, should be given Bronx Cheers round-the-clock. As I said previously, A-Rod Now is getting more fluke\cheap hits than Ichiro. His bravado is to be applauded, but Big League Chuckers know this emperor NO longer has clothes. Sure, we will get an occasionally dinger, but that don’t feed the Bulldog. PLUS, they guy is Now a part-time defensive player. I do like him, as he fessed up when caught with his hand in the cookie jar, (unlike Ortiz), but there is a Brinks Job being pulled before our very eyes.

  38. 86w183 June 30th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    I agree you shouldn’t overreact to one start, but mercy I was far less than impressed with Warren’s performance.

    That said, it was a small strike zone and a very strong offensive opponent.

    Phelps looked more confident and aggressive. Only really had one hard hit ball against him.

    Grienke has NEVER said he wanted to avoid major markets. A social anxiety order is not likely to be triggered by a crowd. It’s more about one-on-one confrontations particularly with people one is familiar with.

  39. GreenBeret7 June 30th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Instructions to David Robertson on getting a save

    Erin Robertson?@ERob3

    Haha! RT @Yank_Luva: @Erob3 I found this quote online. If @DRob30 struggles with the baby diapers, just show him this http://twitter.com/Yank_Luva/s.....48/photo/1

  40. Against All Odds June 30th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    choochoo June 30th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Against All Odds–When a career baseball man and a so respected one like Lou Piniella tells the world that the pitcher’s delivery is not conducive to fooling anyone, that he is easy to read, that his pitches are straight—rest assure that’s about 10 per cent of what he really sees with a pitcher. A guy like Piniella can make a judgment and be right a high percentage of the time in about 10 pitches.

    ———————

    I understand that but at the same time you can’t take one start and say the kid is what he is. I’m not saying Warren will have 15 yr career but I can’t judge him off one game.

  41. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 30th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Arod gets to collect huge dollars for mediocre production. That’s why it’s important not to go longer than 5 years with Grandy. Grandy is going to try to milk the cow dry of course just like Aroid. Arod is going to collect checks, provide very good defense at 3rd, but average production. That’s how it goes. Hey, we should all be used to being robbed?

  42. choochoo June 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    So far here with have Phelps being a blend of Paul O’Neill and Mike Musina. 270 wins Mike Musina.
    Let’s shoot higher—why not Greg Maddox? Or Ferguson Jenkins? Maybe—even—Orel Hershiser.
    After all, Phelps has at least one Major League victory.
    His warrior Paul O’Neill status? Who knows where that comes from. Maybe he takes Mixed martial Arts lessons.

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    YF – agree with you entirely about “crowd wisdom”. There’s no such thing, especially in the Bronx, where it’s publish or perish.

    I LOVE NEW YORK! Had to do a quick round-tripper yesterday and I never have to ask myself why it is my favorite city in the world. Absolutely love being there. :)

    For anyone pleased as punch that I haven’t been around more, I can tell you that the feeling could not be any more mutual. I perused the threads and it’s entirely chartable. Certain “fans” only show up to biotch. They’re nowhere to be found when things are going swimmingly.

    I’m not at all worried about this little transition period. And It’s been a breath of fresh air to be able to watch games without reading posts where grown men continually overreact and knee-jerk and fall apart. My fear is that this season is going to be one where that is going to be the norm rather than the exception.

    It’s probably a reason that I will either stay away from game threads entirely or depart as soon as the “real” fans show up – that is when the insecure decide they need to do some heavy cyber-crying. The lack of perspective is absolutely astounding. It’s at least to me it is.

    To me, if you only come around to complain about the Yankees, you are a fan by exception. And in my book, that’s not a fan at all. JMO.

  44. mick June 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Some want to disparage a majority of Yankee fans for booing Alex at a time he deserved it.
    The booing has long stopped since he gave them what they wanted, however he came to do it.
    He is still perceived to be pompous and basically the same guy who came in and trashed the Capt, fans have not forgiven him for that.
    Even Reggie came into negative fanfare with his “Straw that stirs the drink” remark towards Thurm but he lived up to it immediately.
    Say what you will about New Yorkers, and I do believe there is a bias at play here, but they are closer to the pulse of what is really going on than outsiders looking in…

  45. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 30th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    I miss Trish…a lioness and a warrior. She’s shades of Kate Hepburn and a little bit of Jolie to make it interesting.

  46. Purenyyankee June 30th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    First thing that needs to be done is Wade needs to be DFA. Cashman needs to call Theo and see what it would take to get Garza.

  47. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 30th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Fans pay a lot of money to attend games. This isn’t the good old days where you didn’t have to do a reverse mortgage to buy season tickets. We have a country that is changing, so why not take it out on these overpaid, under achieving has beens like Arod? Why not?

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 30th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Melkman – did I ever tell you that I love you?

    :)

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 30th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Well if not, consider it said.

    ;)

  50. Against All Odds June 30th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    mick June 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Some want to disparage a majority of Yankee fans for booing Alex at a time he deserved it.

    ————————

    Did he really? If there was a runner on base two outs in the first inning and Alex didn’t get a hit the fans booed him only to cheer him innings later if he drove in an rbi or got a game winning hit.

  51. choochoo June 30th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    trisha–can you post a photo next to ones of Hepburn and Angelina Jolie so that we can decide ourselves?
    Of course we know their pictures are already photoshopped, so we’ll take that into consideration.
    Love on the internet is so special.

  52. mick June 30th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Did he really?
    ==========
    It was guttural.
    There were many more who wanted to but didn’t b/c they considered it wrong or impolite.

  53. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 30th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    :) me heart you too!

  54. blake June 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Warren was basically the best choice they had for someone that is stretched out enough to start….if Phelps would have been then he would have started.

    Warren was never predicted by pretty much anybody to be a future starter for the Yankees…..a lot of folks thought maybe he could be a reliever for them at some point…..so it’s basically just a guy for a spot start…..I was hoping he would fair well….but even though it’s one start it’s pretty clear that he’d need to be very precise with his locations and would need to improve his offspeed stuff to have success in the big leagues…..slider doesn’t have much depth at all and he doesn’t really have a feel for how to use his CU.

  55. Melkmanisinhotlanta June 30th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    I just want to say that I’ve been vindicated by Melky Cabrera’s excellence. I was against sending him to Hotlanta from day 1 because he’s a special player. Many here thumbed their noses at the Melkster (Him and me) but now must see their error. He wasn’t lighting the world on fire when he was with the NYY, but he delivered timely, situational hitting. I pray that he comes back next season and signs a 4 year deal to play left field. He’s going to get the bucks next year!

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue June 30th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    choochoo – :lol:

    I think you might want to pick Angelina Jolie, photo shopped or not!

  57. yankeefeminista July 1st, 2012 at 7:58 am

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