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Clemens, Torre, the Hall of Fame and the Yankees

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Roger Clemens was one famous former Yankee not at Yankee Stadium for Old-Timers’ Day Sunday. Clemens, as we all know, was recently found not guilty of lying to Congress in his denial of using performance-enhancing drugs. He will be on the Hall of Fame ballot later this year, but will the 354-game winner be a Hall of Famer?

“He is to me,” Joe Torre said. “I can’t make other people look at him.”

Torre liked having him on his side with the Yankees, but he knows the stigma on Clemens isn’t going away despite the verdict.

“I’m a little prejudiced on Clemens,” Torre said. “He was like a son to me. Unfortunately the question mark is always going to be there with him.

“It’s something that’s sad for me because Roger Clemens and the way he went about his business — and I disliked him like everybody else until I got a chance to know him. He was a great teammate to these guys. He was very devoted to the team he was playing on, and I always respected that. The closeness, I’ll always have with him. I’m just happy that he’s got a chance to exhale now.”

Willie Randolph said: “Roger, to me, is a great friend, a tremendous warrior. I’d like to see him get back in the game.”

Perhaps the Yankees and Clemens will reconnect at some point, like the team did with Torre and Bernie Williams after they left.

“That’s something that the organization deals with and they determine when the right time is,” Joe Girardi said. “I think as time goes on, they’ll make a decision on what the best thing is to do. But we’ve had a lot of players that have went through difficult times and come back, and they’ve been welcomed back. So I can’t tell you exactly what’s going to happen. But Roger was a great Yankee.”

How do you think fans would react to Clemens if he made a reappearance at Yankee Stadium? And should he be voted into the Hall of Fame?

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83 Responses to “Clemens, Torre, the Hall of Fame and the Yankees”

  1. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:13 am

    A few things about the eternal complaining about trading Montero. NYYs needed another starter for the rotation so he got one. This little jewel is wrong:

    “Before the trade, Cashman had:

    CC
    Kuroda (same time as trade)
    Nova
    Garcia
    Hughes”

    Kuroda was no signed at the same time as the trade. Cashman may have been talking to Kuroda but, he was no more signed than the guaranteed signing of Lee was. Kuroda was signed more than 2 weeks later. Cashman wasn’t goin g to put 2 rookies in the rotation at the same time. He tried that before. Pettitte was signed 2 months afte the trade. Hughes was still a question mark until he proved he wasn’t and betting on Garcia repeating 2011 would be foolish. (Cashman was correct, at least, so far).

    What is with the crap that Hughes will be too expensive to keep? He’s barely making $3 mil this year. At most, he’ll be at $6.5-$7 mil in each of the next two years. He’s not going to be making Lincecum money.

  2. UnKnown July 2nd, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Always felt confident with Rocket on the hill for the bombers.

  3. jacksquat July 2nd, 2012 at 9:15 am

    GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:07 am
    A few things about the eternal complaining about trading Montero. NYYs needed another starter for the rotation so he got one. This little jewel is wrong:

    “Before the trade, Cashman had:

    CC
    Kuroda (same time as trade)
    Nova
    Garcia
    Hughes”

    Kuroda was no signed at the same time as the trade. Cashman may have been talking to Kuroda but, he was no more signed than the guaranteed signing of Lee was. Kuroda was signed more than 2 weeks later. Cashman wasn’t goin g to put 2 rookies in the rotation at the same time. He tried that before. Pettitte was signed 2 months afte the trade. Hughes was still a question mark until he proved he wasn’t and betting on Garcia repeating 2011 would be foolish. (Cashman was correct, at least, so far).

    What is with the crap that Hughes will be too expensive to keep? He’s barely making $3 mil this year. At most, he’ll be at $6.5-$7 mil in each of the next two years. He’s not going to be making Lincecum money.

    Most of what I posted is chopped off there.

    This is my part:

    “Before the trade, Cashman had:

    CC
    Kuroda (same time as trade)
    Nova
    Garcia
    Hughes”

    I can’t tell who posted what after that without reading every single post I missed since.

    And I could have sworn that Kuroda was picked up on the same day of the trade, and the announcements were almost at the exact same time.

  4. LGY July 2nd, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Nice article about Joba

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07.....ref=sports

  5. Cashmoney July 2nd, 2012 at 9:17 am

    never been a Clemen fan, I actually was upset when they traded david well and others for him. I can never question the man’s dedication and his contribution to baseball lore as a player. I am indif if he makes it or not to the HOF. I can say that i wont hold roid against him though. I think most fan dont give rat’s a&& if their player does roids or not, as long as they preform.

  6. jacksquat July 2nd, 2012 at 9:17 am

    And Hughes should not be that expensive next year, but if he has another good year in 2013, he could be pretty expensive as a free agent for 2014+.

  7. 86w183 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Of course he should be in the Hall of Fame. We have Hall of Famers who benefited from racism, dead balls, live balls, amphetamines, high mounds, low mounds, the DH and the list goes on and on.

    Clemens will get a huge ovation if/when he returns for Old Timer’s Game….. and of course Georgie Girl will have an orgasm.

  8. MG July 2nd, 2012 at 9:19 am

    This is pretty interesting-Hughes and Nova have stats this year that are virtually the same in many areas:

    Ivan Nova 15 15 9 2 0 0 0 0 0 98.1 106 45 44 16 29 85 4.03 1.37 .278
    Phil Hughes 16 16 9 6 0 0 0 1 0 94.1 97 49 45 19 22 89 4.29 1.26 .259

    both of them are proving they belong in a major league rotation for many years.

  9. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 9:21 am

    The Pineda trade and the Kuroda signing were announced on the same day…..so you have to figure Cashman had a pretty good idea on Kuroda before he pulled the trigger for Pineda……he didnt know about Andy however…

  10. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2012 at 9:22 am

    MG-

    Don’t want the Yankees to lose Wade, but Qualls will be replacing someone on the 25man roter-Mitchell?

    GB-
    Hughes-sign him in the offseason to a 3-4 year contract, avoiding arbitration and his FA in 2014?

    Blake-The Phillies will make at least one more attempt to sign Cole Hamels to a long-term contract before the team fully commits to dealing the left-hander, reports Buster Olney of ESPN.com (via Twitter). I still believe he’ll hit free agency, even though the Phillies are attempting to free up money by ridding themselves of Qualls and Thome and looking to trade Victorino, Polanco, Blanton and probably Wiggington. Just my opinion, but I don’t want the Yankees to trade for any player that will cost them major prospects, if there is no intention or reality that they can resign them. No “high cost” rentals

  11. ac1 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:24 am

    Perhaps Cashman thinks about a 1 year extension for Hughes into 2014?
    Maybe something like 2/12 or 2/14?

  12. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 9:24 am

    Hughes is on pace for 19 wins and 185 Ks…..if he actually comes close to that and has a good 2013 fhen he will command a pretty big contract at age 27.

  13. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Trader,

    I think Cashman will pursue a Hamels trade if hes put on the block…..he has a thing for true high end pitchers and Hamels is one with big market and post season experience…..how things shake out in the rotation oger the next couple of weeks may decide how aggressive he is…..hopefully Hughes, Kuroda, and Nova hold the fort and dont temp him to spend more than he should.

    The Yankees rotation has given up the 3rd fewest runs in the AL…..while the offense has acrually scored less runs by this date than they have in over a decade.

  14. ac1 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Re: Hamels
    I see no way Cashman looks to trade for Hamels (4 players back to Philly)?
    Once CC is back, we will have four solid starters and Pettitte should be back for the playoff run by September….

  15. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 9:33 am

    “Maybe something like 2/12 or 2/14?”

    sure but if I’m Hughes that’s not enough security for me to take that deal…..if he finishes this year strong and has a strong 2013 he could seriously get a big multiyear deal from somebody…..he’s got to establish himself first….but he still has time to do that …..like I said he’s on pace for 19 wins and 185 k’s…..that’s pretty good

  16. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 am

    “I see no way Cashman looks to trade for Hamels (4 players back to Philly)?”

    I hope not…..but the price will come down from that if they want to trade him. I can’t think of a rental that’s commanded that high of a price. Lee is a good comp…..and his price was basically one premium prospect and then some b listers……..the 4 player type deals are more for guys with mulitple years of control like Gio

  17. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:36 am

    My error. Montero trade was on 23 jan (not 13 Jan as I thought). Kuroda was signed on 26 Jan. still, as much as I didn’t care for the trade, it was a solid deal at the time. Surprisingly, Noesi has been a total disaster. It’s not like NYYs haven’t benefitted from “robbing” other teams before. Disregarding the Ruth Era trades with Boston, Reynolds, Lopat, Sain, Mize, Karsen, Turley, Lopez, Maris, Boyer, Terry, Nettles, Chambliss, Lyle, Key, Wells, Clemens, and most recently, abreu come to mind.

  18. Cashmoney July 2nd, 2012 at 9:37 am

    but I don’t want the Yankees to trade for any player that will cost them major prospects, if there is no intention or reality that they can resign them. No “high cost” rentals
    ———-
    the major issue under the CBA is – how will the yanks continue to obtain high end talents? It will serve them better if they keep the few ‘blue chipper’ they have. to add, that’s why not going after soler, cepedes and others (which all have consider risks and possible high upside) makes no sense to me. what i want to see the Yanks adapting under the new cba and come up with a coherent plan for the future to maintain it’s decade dominance.

  19. Cashmoney July 2nd, 2012 at 9:38 am

    blake I think it’s very likely Yanks will land Hamel but hey.

  20. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2012 at 9:39 am

    The Yankees rotation has given up the 3rd fewest runs in the AL…..while the offense has actually scored less runs by this date than they have in over a decade.
    —————————————-
    Blake-

    It seems then that the Yankees need a bat, someone who can play the outfield, have some speed and hit with RISP, to increse the run scoring potential.

    Why give up Hughes/Nova plus some elite prospects like Banuelos/Sanchez/Williams, playes the Phillies need, only to rent Hamels when he might not be signable. Are you then not resigning Cano.

    I’m going on record that the Yankees will not trade for Cole Hamels, nor will they sign him in the offeason.

  21. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Karsen,

    That should be ***Larsen***

  22. Dionysius Thelxinoe July 2nd, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Cashmoney says:
    July 2, 2012 at 9:17 am
    never been a Clemen fan, I actually was upset when they traded david well and others for him. I can never question the man’s dedication and his contribution to baseball lore as a player. I am indif if he makes it or not to the HOF. I can say that i wont hold roid against him though. I think most fan dont give rat’s a&& if their player does roids or not, as long as they preform.

    ——

    Count me as caring whether a player does roids or not.

    I loved having Clemens in pinstripes. I would like to see him return to the team in some capacity. But Roger made the choice which ultimately lumps him together with Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Rafael Palmeiro, et al. It is what it is. If Roger gets voted in, why not those other guys? What about ARod? It’s a real dilemma. If Mark McGwire is any indIcation, most will have a lot of trouble getting in.

    That said, I want to repeat the absolute disdain I’ve developed over the years for the HOF. It includes a buffoon like Bowie Kuhn and a .260-hitting 2nd baseman (whose SINGULAR accomplishment really was a walk-off HR in the 7 game of the WS against the Yankees. Yet the man who has had the most impact on this game since Babe Ruth … Marvin Miller … is not in it??? It constitutes indisputable truth that the HOF has become a one-sided management PR tool.

  23. Yankee Trader July 2nd, 2012 at 9:46 am

    I’ve got to go. I like Hamels, but he just won’t fit under the budget, unless you trade either or both of Cano and Granderson.

    Until later when one of you with CPA background can convince me that the Yankees can fit Hamels in the new budget, without gutting the team.

    Anyway, why rent him?

  24. 86w183 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:46 am

    I’m curious how some of you view the prospects right now in terms of “A” “B” and “C” level.

    To me the “A” list starts with Banuelos and Sanchez. I would add Mason Williams to the list too.

    The “B” list would be Betances, Phelps, Warren, Romine, Nunez, Austin, Bichette, The Almontes,Heathcott and Murphy

    Any notable oversights/slights?

  25. Dionysius Thelxinoe July 2nd, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Truth s/b proof.

  26. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 9:51 am

    I wonder if the Yanks have learned anything new about Matt Moore since last year? If NYY can take2 of 3 from Tampa, I’m satisfied. Tonight should be the key game of the series. I think Nova can hold down Tampa tomorrow and get to Shields again. The Wednesday game could be brutal, though with Phelps and Price.

  27. austinmac July 2nd, 2012 at 9:52 am

    It seems to me Wade must be the guy to get sent down as they need a long man with Garcia starting today. Even if Garcia pitches well, he isn’t stretched out.

  28. randy l. July 2nd, 2012 at 9:55 am

    “What is with the crap that Hughes will be too expensive to keep?”

    add a 17 -6 year to hughes next year and a 4.00-.4.25 era and he’s going to get a 4-5 year contract that will likely be out of the yankees budget restraints.

    what is the downside of locking him up cheaper earlier?

    other teams around baseball do it all the time.

    it’s a new CBA .

    the yankees have to adjust their policies to the new realities.

    hughes could go the other way and be 6-10 and it would look smart to have not signed him.

    here’s where judgement comes in.

    my judgement says he’s going to be good so sign him.

    it’s a gut level hunch on my part.

    but isn’t that what management is supposed to get paid for, being right about tough calls.

    hughes is a tough call.

  29. astrocityfan July 2nd, 2012 at 9:56 am

    86w183

    I absolutely agree with you. Every era in baseball has had some some of cheating. Whether it was keeping out african americans or greenies. The problem with keeping guys in the steriod era out of the hall is how do you quantify the advantage they had when every one was supposedly using? Clemens probably pitched against roided up hitters every day. Did he have an advantage against them? How do you know how much advantage he got anyway? Ws he 40% better against non roided hitters but only 10% better against roid users? You cant put a number on it.

    I say if the numbers get them in the hall, put them in. Just tell the whole story on the plaque. The HOF is a museum, not some kind of shrine. If it were a shrine, lots of poeple in it wouldnt be. (looking at you Cobb)

  30. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2012 at 9:56 am

    - YANKEES BULLPEN REPORT -

    (1) RAPHAEL SORIANO – Appeared in 5 of previous 9 games. Appeared in 33 of 78 games in 2012 season.

  31. austinmac July 2nd, 2012 at 9:56 am

    I don’t see the Yankees pursuing any expensive free agent. They won’t sign anyone to a long term, pricey contract for the next several years other than, hopefully, some of their own.

    This trade deadline will be similar to last year’s. I will be shocked if it is otherwise.

  32. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 10:01 am

    “Why give up Hughes/Nova plus some elite prospects like Banuelos/Sanchez/Williams, playes the Phillies need, only to rent Hamels when he might not be signable. Are you then not resigning Cano.”

    I wouldn’t

  33. tucker July 2nd, 2012 at 10:03 am

    Hughes very much can possibly price himself out of the Yanks’ payroll in 2014. The issue is not how much he will earn this year or in 2013. If he finishes strong this year and follows up with a good 2013, he will command a large payday. Not a Hamels-type contract, but certainly a sizeable deal that could be difficult to afford if they also extend Granderson and Cano. They should extend him now if they are confident he can continue his current pace.

  34. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 10:03 am

    “To me the “A” list starts with Banuelos and Sanchez. I would add Mason Williams to the list too.”

    Right now those are the Yanks top guys…..Tyler Austin has to be close to getting in that area as well…..

    I think you have to consider upside as well and most teams do….they want upside guys in trades….guys like Campos fit that bill as well. Most of the time when teams trade for prospects they want the guys that have a chance to be stars…..

  35. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 10:04 am

    I could see Hughes getting a CJ Wilson deal if he pitches well over the next year and a half…..he’s got a chance to make himself a lot of money.

  36. jmills July 2nd, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Rajai Davis if you need him – will be cheap – and of course, you can have Bautista for,…………Tom Seaver:) I just don’t have a lot of interest in Clemens – rather talk Maddux!

  37. CountryClub July 2nd, 2012 at 10:29 am

    I don’t see the Yanks going after Hamels. Cash hates paying twice in these deals. I know he tried to trade for Lee 2 years ago but that was basically Montero for Lee (yes, a couple other players were in the deal but none of consequence). He doesnt have a player like Montero in the farm right now. He’s not going to give away 2-4 high end A level players for someone that will be a FA at the end of the season. Plus, we have no idea if the Yanks think Hamels will even fit their budget. My guess is that he doesn’t.

    It’d be different if the Yanks were desperate for pitching. But right now, they’re not.

  38. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Ben Badler?@BenBadler

    Yankees Sign 16-Year-Old Dominican SS Yancarlos Baez for $650,000 http://bit.ly/KW90ks

  39. tucker July 2nd, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Count ms in the camp that doesn’t see The team pursuing Hamels — either at the deadline or in free agency. The Montero trade was Cashman’s salvo in attempting to solidify a young, const-controlled rotation for 2014′and beyond. Even though Pineda has not panned out somber, the team still has a young core in Nova, Hughes and potentially Phelps On the back end. I don’t see them opening the prospect vault or the checkbook for Hamels. Two years ago, they would have pursued Hamels, not today though.

  40. Triple Short of a Cycle July 2nd, 2012 at 10:48 am

    My error. Montero trade was on 23 jan (not 13 Jan as I thought). Kuroda was signed on 26 Jan. still, as much as I didn’t care for the trade, it was a solid deal at the time. Surprisingly, Noesi has been a total disaster. It’s not like NYYs haven’t benefitted from “robbing” other teams before. Disregarding the Ruth Era trades with Boston, Reynolds, Lopat, Sain, Mize, Karsen, Turley, Lopez, Maris, Boyer, Terry, Nettles, Chambliss, Lyle, Key, Wells, Clemens, and most recently, abreu come to mind.

    ————————————————————————–

    Key and Wells were free agents. Abreu was a salary dump and they gave up Wells to get Clemens who underperformed mostly for the time he was here

  41. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 10:50 am

    “He’s not going to give away 2-4 high end A level players for someone that will be a FA at the end of the season”

    yea I hope not….but there were rumors that he offered basically the farm system to take on Felix and his contract this winter…..he has somewhat of a soft spot for elite pitchers. I wouldn’t pay the price it’ll take……I bet Texas does though….they have a couple of MLB close prospects that are good that they could spare. Could see a Martin Perez and Lenoys Martin deal for Hamels…..

  42. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 10:50 am

    How did the Yankees pass on Pujols!

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

  43. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Is Valentine a sleaze?

    Ken Davidoff?@KenDavidoff

    A controversial new documentary, executive produced by Bobby Valentine, has caught #MLB’s attention. #RedSox http://nyp.st/KOdJzM

    or a serial flosser? He was caught on camera during last night’s game, flossing his teeth.

  44. JobaTipsHisCap July 2nd, 2012 at 10:54 am

    seriously, who cares about what Joe Torre says about ex-Yankees?
    He pretty much likes every ex and current yankees, except A-Rod. shocker.

  45. tucker July 2nd, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Pineda has not panned out so far …. Darn auto correct

  46. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 10:56 am

    I don’t think any team is going to give Philly 4 good prospects to rent Hamels though….the price will have to come off that or they won’t be able to trade him at all most likely.

  47. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 10:56 am

    blake July 2nd, 2012 at 10:50 am
    How did the Yankees pass on Pujols!

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Why should he waste his time? It’s been stated often enough that he has no eye for talent and can’t players. When he lucks out and gets one, he just trades them off for garbage.

  48. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2012 at 11:03 am

    If you wanna keep the game clean, you do Not allow guys like Clemens, Pettitte, etc, into The Hall. Sure, Clemens has denied using, but that issa decision a Hall voter hasta to make. I believe Clemens used, and Pettitte’s testimony is damning, though he attempted to soften it, in order to keep his buddy outta the slammer. In order to keep The Game clean, you punish these guys every which way you can, whether they are currently active players, or retired. Same goes for Pete Rose. The public’s confidence in Baseball MUST be maintained, and disciplining players in this manner will ensure that.

  49. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Pitcher Sean Black is promoted from Tampa to Trenton.

  50. jmills July 2nd, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Donnybrook – if you go after the cheaters, you’ll be flipping every which way including loose :)

  51. GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Baseball has never been clean.

  52. jessiedog July 2nd, 2012 at 11:20 am

    I was never a fan of Clemons. I cheered him when he was in our uniform, but was not thrilled when we acquired him.
    I think he should be in the Hall of Fame, hoping if that happens it is a Red Sox.
    If he is invited back to Yankee events, would hope it is just as another person and not a big persona, no special days etc…sort of like Wade Boggs or Rickey Henderson.
    I am just not ready to see him yet. To me if his teammates and former manager seem to want him around, then it is good enough for me

  53. Mike Ri July 2nd, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Baseball has never been clean.

    i agree 100 percent !

  54. Wave Your Hat July 2nd, 2012 at 11:25 am

    If I had a HOF vote, I’d vote for Clemens. Seems like a no brainer to me.

    I’d be very reluctant to lock up Hughes now. I think the jury’s still out, and the Yanks could make a real mistake. He’s not the kind of pitcher who can’t be replaced.

  55. jmills July 2nd, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Yeah ! Clemens standing in the hall in an xtra large Boston shirt :)

  56. Against All Odds July 2nd, 2012 at 11:27 am

    GreenBeret7 July 2nd, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Baseball has never been clean.

    —————–

    You can say that again

  57. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2012 at 11:33 am

    That’s like saying Congress has Never been clean. SO WHAT? Somebody has to start somewhere, or your resigning yourself to accepting the damage that Has been done, and will Continue to be done. I only hope Clemens has Not damaged his relationship with his Family.

  58. Jerkface July 2nd, 2012 at 11:42 am

    The Pineda trade and the Kuroda signing were announced on the same day

    Yea and the date when they make it ‘official’ doesn’t matter, since that can be delayed for 40 man reasons. He agreed to terms on Jan 13th.

  59. Wave Your Hat July 2nd, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Pineda and Kuroda would have beefed up what on January 13th looked like an iffy rotation.

  60. 86w183 July 2nd, 2012 at 11:46 am

    It is completely unfair to create a retro-active punishment for the violation of a rule that didn’t exist at the time.

    If you want to ban anyone who tested positive AFTER a testing program was in place I can accept that.

    I cannot accept inventing a punishment after the fact.

    ALL of MLB was complicit in the steroid era, yet 8-10 guys are going to bear all the brunt of the punishment for it? Not right.

  61. jmills July 2nd, 2012 at 11:46 am

    From what I understand, Roger threw his partner under the bus :(

  62. Jerkface July 2nd, 2012 at 11:49 am

    steroids arent even cheating really

  63. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Clemens should be a HOFer.

  64. Bronx Jeers July 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Is Valentine a sleaze?

    ———————————–

    I’ve never been a big Valentine fan but this film earns him points in my book.

  65. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 11:54 am

    As mentioned….the game has never been clean and its impossible to gauge levels cheating or who did what…..let the guys who should be in the HOF in the HOF…..nobody is keeping Willie Mays or Mantle out for takijg ampethamines…..which are also banned today….

  66. Jerkface July 2nd, 2012 at 11:55 am

    @mikeaxisa

    At this point last year, Teixeira was at .243/.352/.535 with 24 homers.

    ?@mikeaxisa

    Teixeira’s at .242/.323/.448 with 14 homers at almost the halfway point. Make it stop.

  67. Bronx Jeers July 2nd, 2012 at 11:58 am

    “The numbers will be there”

    Teixeira’s epitaph –

  68. blake July 2nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Tex seems to be trending steadily down.

  69. Jerkface July 2nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    @eboland11

    Joba, after throwing BP this a.m. at minor league complex said “definitely within 2 weeks” he’ll be in a rehab game. Will throw sim game Fri

    Joba is incredible

  70. Jerkface July 2nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    From June 1st to now, Cano has hit: .346 .419 .750 1.169. With 12 HRs, 12BB:18K

  71. LGY July 2nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Tex seems to be trending steadily down.

    ——–

    Yet some Yankee fans are already penciling him in as a future HOF….

  72. DONNYBROOK July 2nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Don’t even Start with TEX again. ALL of you came out looking pretty bad on that one the 1st time around.

  73. austinmac July 2nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    While I do not believe the Yankees will do muich, if anything, on the trade deadline, iif they use any assets, I hope it is on offense.

  74. austinmac July 2nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    By the trade deadline, I intend to learn to type.

  75. jpb173 July 2nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Jerkface July 2nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
    The Pineda trade and the Kuroda signing were announced on the same day

    Yea and the date when they make it ‘official’ doesn’t matter, since that can be delayed for 40 man reasons. He agreed to terms on Jan 13th.

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    Actually, Kuroda probably agreed earlier than January 13th. The Yankees did not have room on the 40 man roster for him until they sent 2 men from that roster (Montero and Noesi) for one player on the 40 man roster (Pineda). The other sore armed pitcher (Campos) that they got from Seattle has never been added to the 40 man roster.

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