Game 80: Yankees at Rays
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 03, 2012 
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YANKEES (48-31)
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Raul Ibanez DH
Eric Chavez 1B
Russell Martin C
Dewayne Wise LF
RHP Ivan Nova (9-2, 4.03)
Nova vs. Rays
RAYS (42-38)
Desmond Jennings LF
Carlos Pena 1B
B.J. Upton CF
Jeff Keppinger 3B
Ben Zobrist RF
Luke Scott DH
Jose Molina C
Sean Rodriguez 2B
Elliott Johnson SS
RHP James Shields (7-5, 4.04)
Shields vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:10 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network
WEATHER: Another night under the big, white roof.
UMPIRES: HP Sam Holbrook, 1B Mike Estabrook, 2B Rob Drake, 3B Joe West
DAMN DOME: The Yankees have lost eight straight games at Tropicana Field dating back to last season (including an 0-4 mark in 2012). According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the eight-game skid is the Yankees’ longest on the road against any one team since dropping 15 in a row at Texas from 1989-91.
CLOSE CALLS: Of the eight straight defeats at the Trop, all have been decided by three runs or less, including four one-run losses. The Yankees have had the lead in five of the games.
DOESN’T HAPPEN OFTEN: Mark Teixeira was charged with his first error of the season last night. He had not made an error since September 6, 2011, snapping a 93-game errorless stretch, going 807 total chances. He was one of only two Major League first basemen with at least 250 total chances without an error (also Oakland’s Daric Barton, 310 total chances through yesterday).
UPDATE, 7:26 p.m.: Couple of doubles leads to a couple of runs and the Yankees are in front 2-0.
UPDATE, 7:50 p.m.: Dewayne Wise. Solo homer. Naturally. It’s now a 3-0 lead.
UPDATE, 8:07 p.m.: Martin’s home plate fumble lets the Rays get a run in the third.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: Official call changed so that Martin gets an error and Wise gets an assist on the play at the plate. The bigger issue for the Yankees is that Keppinger just singled in two runs to make it 3-3.
UPDATE, 8:15 p.m.: All three Rays runs in that inning are unearned.
UPDATE, 8:35 p.m.: Chavez’s two-out single gave the Yankees a one-run lead in the top of the fourth, but it didn’t last. Sean Rodriguez just hit a two-run homer to put the Rays on top, 5-4.
UPDATE, 9:01 p.m.: Nice slide by Cano made that play a lot closer than it initially looked, but still, that’s a terrible send and the Rays are still up 5-4.
UPDATE, 9:37 p.m.: Not entirely sure why Martin was throwing to second base in the first place — Jennings was going to score even if he got the out — and the fact the throw was terrible made it even worse. It’s now 7-4 Rays.
Go SuperNova/Vato! Go Yanks!
Wooooo!
You beat me again!!
Go Vato! Go Yankees!!
Go Yankees….GO Nova!
luis,
luis,
I agree from the previous thread….thought if it weren’t for the budget I’d totally go after Hamels
Go Jeet!
good luck to Mason, Sanchez, and Austin in their debuts at high A!
Atta boy, Jeet!
Blake,
That’s for me the first reason i wouldn’t do it. With the previous CBA environment i would go after him as well, but as a FA. That way he only costs money.
El Capitan!!
if only Derek could hit the whole game like he does the first AB….he just attacks those cookie first pitches of the game.
luis,
absolutley….
gotta score that run here….give Super Nova a head start
Pat M. July 3rd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
GB…..I remember Big Ben cheap shotting Joe Willie Namath and fractured his jaw……Namath finished the game and would get revenge a few weeks later at a cold and windy Sunday afternoon at Shea……..Jets would come from behind and beat The Raiders and would go on to shock the world & The Colts in Super Bowl III……I never met him but the few guys that I know who did say he was a real funny guy and nothing like his Football personna
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Pat, Butkis and Dobler weren’t exactly Emily Post on the gridiron, either. Great players, though.
Grandy man can!!
that Tampa team is pretty loaded with talent now with Mason, Sanchez, Heathcott, and Austin in the same lineup.
Nice Grandy….
blake, QFT!
Grandy! Woot!
wonder if the Rays are wishing they had sold high on Shields last winter…..there were rumors they might move him….he’s a good pitcher but he’s not as good as he was last year….never really has been and probably won’t be again….
blake, don’t forget Flores; he of the almost perfect splits.
Low!
Thats not a strike.
Yup Blake,
What i like is that they are keeping Williams, Austin and Sanchez together…The fundation of the new core?
luis,
I’ve wondered if thats why maybe they waited to move them up….until all 3 were ready….
It appears as well as they are speeding up their development
LOL, calling out Jerkface, LOL.
This guy thinks that Japanese FAs and/or postings are covered by the new 2.9 millionish cap. The poster even said so that the Yanks will be hindered signing Igawa/Matsui types in the future. LOL, that cap does not apply to Japanese league players. LOL.
RISP Success!
good start 2 for 2 w RISP
Cano might be the best breaking ball hitter in baseball….he’s one of them….you throw a breaking ball in the zone and he hammers it.
Robbie makes Shields pay for keeping him waiting.
The Yanks did a similar thing with the GCL boys who are again all at SI together. The second wave of core after the Charleston group.
Can we please hold the 2-0 lead tonight?
Cano naps ! LOL
There’s Cano with another mental lapse.
Blake,
I think so…And it makes sense if you are seriously thinking about developing a core around them…I think it was done the same way with Jeter, Posada, Mo and Pettitte…In the end they debuted at different times because not everyone was ready at the same time…Cano should do the job Bernie did in those days.
Cano!!
and Cano! grrrr! Mental fart
come on Robbie…..good grief
Cano still thinking about who he snubbed for the home run derby.
What bonehead base-running by Cano. I’ve never seen brain-farts as severe as his.
Go Nova!
This time, I feel a win tonight for sure, unlike last night. ( good start didn’t hurt ! LOL )
J/K, I really don’t have a feel for this game. Just hopin’ for a win.
Wow!! Bear down Vato!!
Hi 4 NYY,
You are what we call down here a “Boca de Chivo” Everything you say turn out to be true. So please, be positive
Filthy pitch.
That was more of a strike than what Arod got called on
I wish !
Kenny don’t jinx him! please
It sure was !!!
Pena is up too long
Throw him a FB on the outside corner
K!!!! Nice.
Not long enough though ! BYE !
He had him struck out about 4 pitches ago
Nasty CB!!…I wouldn’t keep on calling them though, you need to mix some pitches there or he will adjust
nasty slider as well…
looks like he’s gonna get out uscathed
96!!
Kep is a dangerous super sub.
Atta boy Nova “El Hombre”
Good job Nova ! Nice mix of pitches.
The Yankees can indeed score with RISP!
But I still say justgo for the homer. Quicker that way, ha ha!
Well, I’m off to see the wizard so will be taking a lot of this game in the car. I’m with 4 NYY. Yanks have this game.
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Here’s something else I thought about. I have nothing against Maddon, and I think he does really good things with his team. But if he outmanages Girardi all the time and some posters wish we had him rather than Girardi, why are the Yanks in 1st place and the Rays 6.5 games out?
Hmmm.
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I am giving my proxy for comments to Pat M, GB, 4 NYY, and jackamir. I’m sure there are others who could speak for me, but that’s all I can think of right now.
caveat – trading Cano is not part o my proxy giveaway!
GO YANKS!!!
Cano is in sleep mode?
Oh yeah – Tyler too!
John Maine is pitching for Scranton tonight. still early, but, 2 perfect, 1 strikeout and 4 groundouts, hitting 91-94 on fastball. Almost all fastballs tonight so far.
Here’s something else I thought about. I have nothing against Maddon, and I think he does really good things with his team. But if he outmanages Girardi all the time and some posters wish we had him rather than Girardi, why are the Yanks in 1st place and the Rays 6.5 games out?
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Better players…?
fem – Stay away from my captain.
Ravel is back in the SI lineup, btw.
YF,
Did they move the whole group from GCL to SI? Good
MLB.com is about 4 seconds ahead of MLB Network
Shame, never!
It usually is 4 NYY…Don’t know why, but that’s the way it is
fem – I can barely keep it together the past few days… hoping a decision is made soon so we can move forward either way (and by ‘we’ I mean both the Devils and my various scattered emotions!)
Shame…Are you a lady?
Luis, most of them. It happens naturally with a lot of the group who usually do a year a level, but Yanks are into keeping groups together to bond/support each other with the exception of fast movers like the trio. Had Ravel not been rehabbing, he likely would have started at Charleston.
luis July 3rd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
It usually is 4 NYY…Don’t know why, but that’s the way it is
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A few games ago, maybe ESPN, they were in perfect sync.
YF,
That’s a sound strategy…Especially for core development
luis – I’ve been mistaken for one in the past…
Shame, I was doing interviews today for about 5 hours, but that didn’t deter me; during the interviews I constantly was checking tweets from the Pittsburgh writers. I have carpal tunnel from checking so often.
Deron Williams sticking with the Nets…. I wonder if they will land Howard also. I love D-Will but not a huge Joe Johnson or Dwight Howard fan.
That’s great news on Martin and it should help out offense a lot too.
Shame Spencer July 3rd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
luis – I’ve been mistaken for one in the past…
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LOL! You are to me…And a very fun one by the way
Shame is no lady!
Same here, fem. I just keep telling myself this isn’t nearly as bad as Kovy-watch 2010.
Cano can look like he’s not awake sometimes, then make a tough play look so easy.
Ravel is back in the SI lineup, btw.”
Thats great to hear
At least you guys can dream about getting/retaining Parise…. The big move by my Blues thus far has been signing Jeff Woywitka who I celebrated being off the team 4 years ago
yankeefeminista July 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Shame is no lady!
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But, weesa a knowin fer shure yu is ! LOL
Nick in SF July 3rd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
That’s great news on Martin and it should help out offense a lot too.
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Sarcasm?
Thanks luis! Appreciate it.. though as fem correctly points out I prefer to hang out on low class levels
I figured Ravel was fine. He didn’t do any damage at 2B, probably actually loafed a little and arrived at the bag standing up.
That’s why you’re my grrrl, Shame.
4 NYY July 3rd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
yankeefeminista July 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Shame is no lady!
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But, weesa a knowin fer shure yu is ! LOL
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Speaking of (bet you weren’t expecting that, 4NYY!), OT but Lifetime is releasing a remake of Steel Magnolias…I just saw the trailer and started hating life again. I hope the Yanks can win this one to restore my faith in humanity!
Very nice inning by Nova. This is a lineup he should roll through with how he’s throwing.
Nova is a really good pitcher
Guess you could say that Martin & Molina are pretty much the same this year.
4NYY, thanks, I think.
blake July 3rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Nova is a really good pitcher
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I hope he turns out to be as good of a non-ace as CC. Aspirations are important.
OMG what was that
A Wise man !
Wise! What kind of call was that….nice job YES
Wise keeps being a wise decision!!
Now I’m confused. Will all ladies please raise their hands!
Wise man comes thru again
“I hope he turns out to be as good of a non-ace as CC. Aspirations are important.”
lol,.,.,yea
Wow! Wise!
Nova is a “tough as nails” Vato!
Go Jeet!
that ball was destroyed that Wise hit….he’s been stepping up big time for the Yanks….I’m glad Joe is keeping him in the lineup….because he makes the defense much better and if he’s hitting like this then you ride it as long as you can.
got his era under 4
Shame,
I wouldn’t call them aspirations, but rather a good assessment of talent, make up and drive. This Nova kid will be the ace of this staff in two years
YT, prob not for a game thread; a better discussion for a cultural studies class…
DeWayne deserves a skills bump for that one.
Officially 7 tool player.
Cano need to hit a HR. That way he can’t make any baserunning errors
Tampa needs to get out of Tampa….that ballpark is a nightmare and an embarrassment for MLB
“Sarcasm?”
Didn’t you hear what Kenny said? Rough paraphrase: “Russell could be poised for a big second half.” Kenny has good sources!
Regarding something from the previous thread:
“The Yankees like Matt Garza and he may be their most realistic option if they’re willing to meet the Cubs’ steep asking price.”
I have a simple reply:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kNwvIEQsg0
Wise has been filling in great recently, good for him.
luis, two years? Why not one or less?
Catwalk HR Accuracy — 7th tool
Yankee Trader July 3rd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Now I’m confused. Will all ladies please raise their hands!
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We confine this behavior to when Beyonce songs are playing.
Alex’s swing has been looking a bit better.. I hope he starts to string some good games together. Does anyone else think he might be adjusting to all the off time he’s been getting?
yankeefeminista July 3rd, 2012 at 7:49 pm
4NYY, thanks, I think.
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Soytenly, you’re thinkin’ correctly, my dear.
Blake- Ballpark is in St Pete about 30-40 minutes away
YF,
LOL!! I have to defer to the big CC
Nick,
Very appropiate!!
I wouldn’t hold my breath on Martin though…I think that’s more wishful thinking than anything else
Trader,
I know….I just meant that area….MLB needs to push the city of Tampa to either build them a barkpark in Tampa or that they’ll help their owners relocate…..because it’s embarrassing that one of the best run organizations play in that dump in front of no fans every night.
Good to see Bleich pitching for SI. Ravel with another hit; he’s starting to get more comfortable.
That slider is filthy.
hitters just don’t pick up the spin on his slider….it’s super tight and just disappears
I have to say this…Most of the posters i respect the most in this blog are women…A lot of knowledgeable fans in deed…I tip my cap to all of you
nasty slider for the k
Too big a jump for Martin to have a chance
Aww, thank you luis! We’re not all pink hats
Bear down Nova…A DP would be nice
Phillies Notes: Hamels, Victorino, Manuel
By Zach Links [July 3 at 6:08pm CST]
The Phillies’ trades in the past week are signs that the club is getting ready to send off even more pieces, opines Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (video link). Philly hasn’t quite put Cole Hamels out on the trade market yet, but as they sit far behind the first-place Nationals, it seems inevitable. Morosi says that moves involving Hamels and Shane Victorino look likelier by the day. More on the Phillies..
The Phillies might be saying publicly that they’re not prepared to sell, but that doesn’t appear to truly be the case, writes Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com. One rival executive who talked to a high-ranking Phillies official told Knobler, “They told me, ‘If we lose any more games, we could be selling soon.’”
Phillies skipper Charlie Manuel agreed with a reporter’s observation that the team’s season riding on these next three weeks, writes Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com. Meanwhile, Victorino argued that the returns of Roy Halladay and Ryan Howard will make a major impact on the club and will be bigger than any two acquisitions the Phillies could possibly make.
Victorino also told reporters, including Todd Zolecki of MLB.com (via Twitter) that he doesn’t think his days in Philly are numbered and it’s up to the team to show the front office that they can win as-is.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
Typical Nova inning.. he’ll get ‘er dun.
luis July 3rd, 2012 at 7:59 pm
I have to say this…Most of the posters i respect the most in this blog are women…A lot of knowledgeable fans in deed…I tip my cap to all of you
nasty slider for the k
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Right luis, gotta treat the wimmins good !
I just turn away when Martin is at the plate. Off speed outside – good night.
Shame Spencer July 3rd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Aww, thank you luis! We’re not all pink hats
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I know…That’s one of the things I like the most
Atta boy, Vato!
wanna know who has quietly progressed from a really good player to a monster…..Andrew McCutchen….current slash .357/.409/.601/1.010
great pitch by Nova….stole an out right there
The loser dropped the ball. Martin is a complete and total waste
Gracias tambien, luis!
Dropped the ball?
damn knocked the ball out
ooooooo…so, so close. Nice play by Wise out there.
dang it….great throw by Wise….gotta hang on there Russ….was a pretty tough hop though….
Good pitchin’ IVAN ! ( he’ll never be Ivan The Terrible )
Dropped it ! Damn.
This guy is awful. Can’t hit and can’t hold onto a ball. So glad he is back
ugh c’mon Martin
Well….Damn!!
Martin is awful
eh….that’s a tough play….can’t blame Martin much there…picking that hop and also making the tag with contact isn’t all that easy.
JOHN STERLING HAS BEEN COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE THIS ENTIRE GAME.
Fire this old piece of crap, PLEASE. It’s INFURIATING listening to this senile, blind old fool call games.
Put him away, Vato.
Defense not so great this series so far. First Tex, now Martin with two SBs on him and a dropped ball at the plate. Ugh. Sloppy.
Good thing Martin is here for his defense.
His throw to 2nd cost us Eliot at 2nd. Now drops the ball at home. Cant hit for crap.
And our idiots never attempt any contact at home plate. We just go down like sissies and take the tag. Last time we ever did was Teix against the Angels in Anaheim.
He got the Wise home run wrong. He got the Wise throw home wrong. What the HELL else is he going to get wrong this game?
Oh hey! “Struck him out sw-… oh, no, a foul tip to stay alive.”
I cannot stand this dude.
Since he can’t hit, Martin’s defense is supposedly what keeps him playing. What now?
play at the plate cost them 3 runs…..ugh….I hate playing the Rays
I’ll say it again, Kep is a dangerous super sub. DAMN
Rays made it look easy this inning. 3-3. New game. Squandered a good start against Shields. On Nova now. This kind of game, need to win 3-0.
Wish we would have gotten him
Remind me what Martin does well and why exactly catcher isn’t a spot we can look to upgrade the offense via in July?
blake July 3rd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
eh….that’s a tough play….can’t blame Martin much there…picking that hop and also making the tag with contact isn’t all that easy.
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Is why Posada never blocked the plate
The SB’s weren’t Martin’s fault…They had big jumps…that’s more on Nova IMO
Keep it here Vato
Just gave up a 2 run hit to loser Jeff Keppinger. Thats the game. Good job Martin, cost us 3 runs. If we’re not going to get any offense from the C position, cant our team go out and get an actual defensive catcher.
And there’s Jeff Keppinger just putting the ball in play with 2 strikes, while loser Stick Swisher just flails away trying to club home runs.
Hearing people rant about John and Suzyn is like my favorite past time, I swear to god lol.. there is nothing funnier than hearing people sound the way I do when I try to tune in for a minute just to get the score.
Sweet Lou could be the worlds worst TV color guy in history. What exactly does he bring to the table? He makes oneill look good
“Remind me what Martin does well and why exactly catcher isn’t a spot we can look to upgrade the offense via in July?”
mostly because there aren’t any good catchers available via trade most likely….
Chavez pulling a Tex at 1st
It’s only the 3rd.. plenty of time to come back. Just gotta stop the bleeding stat and get a clean inning the next go round.
That is an error
my goodness guys….
Nova should sue for lack of support.
What an ugly inning
The D’s falling apart.
I swear Russ Martin has pictures of Brian Cashman killing a guy.
Why the hell else is he on this team? He does not belong in the major leagues.
Hearing people rant about John and Suzyn is like my favorite past time, I swear to god lol.. there is nothing funnier than hearing people sound the way I do when I try to tune in for a minute just to get the score.
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His theatrics and game calling wrongness pale in comparison to his and suzyn’s ability to talk for 20 minutes during an inning without mentioning the pitcher, base runners, score, or batter by name/position.
Tough error on Martin, but he had it and it got knocked loose. He has to hold it on contact.
Another error on Chavez. Enough already.
The best thing Martin has done in pinstripes is probably turning down that extension from Cashman.
Got swept by the Royals and the Mets, but when its time to play us, these loser Rays show up.
But when they face the Red Sox, theyll get annihilated
What is it with the Yankees an the Rays? It’s like the Rays are the Yankees’ kryptonite this year.
Teix only has ONE error all year.
Atta boy, Vato. 61 pitches.
I’m starting to wonder if they’ll ever win another game @ TB
at least some good fortune there….defense cost Nova a bunch of pitches that inning.
That wasn’t an easy play for Martin but he should have made it…..
was it ever confirmed that the Yankees offered Martin 3/21?
Jerkface July 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Hearing people rant about John and Suzyn is like my favorite past time, I swear to god lol.. there is nothing funnier than hearing people sound the way I do when I try to tune in for a minute just to get the score.
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His theatrics and game calling wrongness pale in comparison to his and suzyn’s ability to talk for 20 minutes during an inning without mentioning the pitcher, base runners, score, or batter by name/position.
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I have tried on countless occasions to just get the score quick on the radio when I’m out and about during a game.. those assholes keep me in my car for a good 15-25 EASY before coughing up those minor details. I was thinking about joining a support group.. but it still really, really makes me laugh to hear when someone else is suffering as I have. I call it the human condition, others call it me being a b!tch. *shrugs* Win some, lose some.
The guy needs to block the plate and not sit to the side. He’s hitting a .190 or worse..I haven’t looked at that stat in a few days. He shouldn’t be reaching to tag the runner. He should be on top waiting to get knocked over.
Have we lost yet?…Guys is the 4th inning, plenty of game left and we are tied…We are crushing Big Game Shields
blake, there has to be an actual defensive catcher available, a backup catcher from another team, a guy thats only good for his defesne and bats .100.
Martin 3, Yankees 3
and if he dropped the ball that way, at least it’ll be the right way instead of chickening off to the side like that.
Blake – offensively he is laughably bad. There are numerous backups who are better than him. He is heralded for his defense…….he doesn’t throw runners out, doesnt really act as a vacuum back there, and generally calls a game just like every other catcher.
“blake, there has to be an actual defensive catcher available, a backup catcher from another team, a guy thats only good for his defesne and bats .100.”
that’s what Chris Stewart is supposed to be
That wasn’t a strike
blake July 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
was it ever confirmed that the Yankees offered Martin 3/21?
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I don’t think so but it was confirmed that he did turn them down, an act for which we all remain grateful (though everyone here knows Cash will be holding a stereo over his head this off season outside Martin’s window playing ‘In Your Eyes’).
how are these pitches strikes?
“Blake – offensively he is laughably bad. There are numerous backups who are better than him”
yea but they are paying Martin a good chunk of money so I doubt they want to replace him with somebody that’s just as bad as he is…..it is what it is right now…there isn’t a lot they can do about it this year….they can try to do something next year this winter though and it should be a priority
“blake, there has to be an actual defensive catcher available, a backup catcher from another team, a guy thats only good for his defesne and bats .100.”
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Why didn’t we just sign a Molina? The first cog to winning a WS..
I am starting to lose respect for joe girardi and the front office. Russel Martin is hitting .185 on the season. Were not talking a slump to start the season… we are talking about a guy hitting .185 in JULY. The fact that he is still our everyday catcher is a downright joke. We wont win a championship with that loser in our lineup.
So all 3 runs were unearned? Or did Yahoo Sports not update it correctly?
blake, well Stewie aint that. His defensive is less than stellar.
Woah Stish!! That was a Swishalicious swing!
“Why didn’t we just sign a Molina? The first cog to winning a WS..”
they have Gusty! or had….
Jafar strikes again.. I think his chin is still trying to catch up!
Ibanez, he just missed the homer
Blake – fair points.
And that ball doesn’t go out. Can’t catch a break in Tampa. Of these 8 straight losses I feel like we led early many times.
Romine picked a bad year to have back problems….he’d probably be the starter right now if he wasn’t hurt.
igotid88 July 3rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
So all 3 runs were unearned? Or did Yahoo Sports not update it correctly?
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Yeah it would have been 3 outs so the other runs don’t count as earned
Come on Chavy…make up for the error
The Phillies are in sell mode… what would it cost to get carolos ruiz?
Was Martin’s error with 2 outs? I didn’t watch the play. According to MLB gameday Nova is tagged with two earned runs, and according to Chad he isn’t tagged for any.
He is sitting CU
And there’s that swinging machine Swisher. Uurk.
Great work chavvy
Yes! Good job.
Raul so cool and Chavy! I thought Raul was out by a cool mile.
Atta boy!!! Sitting on a CU
“The Phillies are in sell mode… what would it cost to get carolos ruiz?”
I don’t know but I wish….he’s got a club option for 2013 and is a lot better than Martin.
Nice job Chavy….made up for the error….great hitting.
You want another catcher hitting .100-Take your pick:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/b.....e/minpa/75
Ibanez chugging along!
I must say, I’m impressed Ibanez was sent, and actually scored. He just received stitches and had several pieces of teeth imbedded into his lip!
rm July 3rd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
igotid88 July 3rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
So all 3 runs were unearned? Or did Yahoo Sports not update it correctly?
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Yeah it would have been 3 outs so the other runs don’t count as earned
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I forget was the Martin error on the 1st run? The scoring decision could change though.
Watch Russ homer here
Maybe Martin can hit a homer and get us back our 3 run lead.
Martin will hit a HR now……..or drive in the run
chavez making up for his bad with some good
A hit would be nice Martin
Ruiz hs a cheap club option that the Phillies would be foolish to not exercise.
Nova getting support. He might never lose again.
Excellent job Russ!
well he didn’t strike out….
“Remind me what Martin does well…?”
He can greet important delegations from both English and French-speaking nations.
I don’t believe I’ve seen a catcher charged with an error on a play like that at the plate.
Ugh!! Another swing from his heels!!….Thank God you turned down the offer Russ…He has the brain of an ant
Martin has been so bad at the plate that even the reverse jinx doesn’t work.
“Ruiz hs a cheap club option that the Phillies would be foolish to not exercise.”
I agree….I think it’d probably take a lot to pry him away and the way he’s playing you’d be way over paying most likely for a 33 year having the season of his career….
Right down the middle and of course he pops it up. Looking real dangerous at the plate.
At least Martin likes hockey…. :shrug:
Joe Casale ?@sportsJC16
Big hit by Chavez. Bigger news is he didn’t injure himself on that awkward slide to second base. #Yankees
Yankees are very susceptible to CU’s. Most of the guys in the lineup are guess hitters and overswing.
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I love this guy sometimes. Its basically me speaking. I cant wait to meet this guy one day soon.
As of now all 3 runs are unearned and Nova’s ERA is now3.91
Ruiz might have a cheap option, but i am sure they would listen for a young prospect. Their farm system is horrible.
I wonder if anyone has thought to say “Russ, ur hitting .180 in July…….ur 5’9 and using a 38″ bat……try a 32″ bat like the one you used in high school….can’t hurt”
Nick,
At this pace he will be greeting people in a Tim Horton’s
trying to think of anybody they could trade for that wouldn’t cost a fortune and would be better than Martin
Nick in SF July 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
“Remind me what Martin does well…?”
He can greet important delegations from both English and French-speaking nations.
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Trade him to the Jays!!
Yanks could get creative and package a deal for hamels and ruiz. : )
Talking about Knicks coach Mike Woodson
Joe Casale ?@sportsJC16
@TheAuthenticMax He’s nothing special as a coach. Just a retread guy.
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Correct again.
As bad as Martin has been, he is much closer to earning his paycheck than ARod. At this point, we would typically come to expect about 60 RBIs from ARod, yet he has only 35 in over 280 at bats. I miss 2007 ARod, but I’d still be more than happy with similar stats to 2010.
Its funny sportsJC16 is criticizing the offense today when Yanks have 4 runs in 4 innings on a very good pitcher…
You want a picture of all the components of a bad swing?
That truism – No such thing as a useless player.
You use Martin as a bad example.
I would*
I think it’s addition by subtraction. Just like we got better by getting rid of AJ, we need to get rid of martin. The dude is flat out awful.
Carlo July 3rd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I wonder if anyone has thought to say “Russ, ur hitting .180 in July…….ur 5’9 and using a 38? bat……try a 32? bat like the one you used in high school….can’t hurt”
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If I were Martin I’d be open to anything… including ritualistic sacrifices ala-Scott Proctor. Maybe thats what we need someone to suggest.
Not good
Tabbert-
I think they’d like to unload more salary like Blanton, Polanco, Wiggington, and Victorino for prospects so they can look into extending Hamels
Calling James Shields a very good pitcher is a horrible insult to very good pitchers.
Ruiz and his .357 average, which is over 2x as much as Martin’s, is drool-worthy.
those are earned
via-Twitter:
BobKlap Meanwhile, Lincecum destroyed again, this time by #Nationals. ERA now over 6.00
Wow, Vato! Vato vato vato!!! Vato!!!! Wasted his performance against the W Sox.
We just can’t win in this park. Very annoying.
I hate Tampa, their stadium, and that obnoxious blow horn.
I’d rather keep talking about Lincecum..
A .211 hitter. AAAArgh!
trader-
Blanton and wigginton arent going to land the phillies much.
Eech. Ivan the Terrible tonight.
This is what happens when you allow Jose Molina to get a hit. He probalby only got 5 hits in his career with us. And every one of his hits were pull jobs. But here he is going up the middle, not swinging out of his cleats for a homer like he did with us.
so… this will be 12 straight losses in the trop?
He is tired…Too many pitches on the previous inning…
This game is not going to end up with this score
We Want Mo Mo,
so what do you consider Shields as pitcher?
Will we be seeing Mitchell tonight?
The rays will sweep us… then go lose 15 straight, then play us again and sweep us.
Tabbert-
No the Phillies will get salary relief if they can unload them.
The Yankees will win this game. Nova pitches well enough to win.
We are back in business
Wow. Wise is a guy I can like. He’s helped this team in a very small role. Thats a professional hit right there.
Why is Jeter bunting?? The captain batting .300 with a hit in his 1st AB and just gave away an out.
Gardner might end up playing behind Wise
Ugh!! A bunt in the 5th inning!!
What’s with theses #%^* bunts down by one in the 5th on the road?
He is tired…Too many pitches on the previous inning…
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Exactly.
And then you watch the kid pull himself together – Get down and go throught the rest of the inning.
Had all things in place to whine and snivel. Didn’t do it.
Gotta love the kid.
I’d love to see the Red Sox get fooled into trading for AJ at the trade deadline.
Let’s go, Grandy Man!
Keep it short grandy
Tyler Austin removed from the game today after a HBP on the head…hopefully he is ok
wth jeter
I love playing for 1 run in the 5th inning.
Trader-
Ruiz is 33. Couldn’t the yankees decide that he would make a nice stop gap before sanchez is ready to go here? The yanks could obviously make a package nice enough that the phillies would be stupid to turn down. It would also help cut payroll for the yankees.
Alex had some good swings his previous 2 at-bats. Hit some straight back
Christ. Arod is sucking so much arse lately.
Jeter just bunted for no reason. Cost us an inning. Wise couldve effing stolen the base, didnt need to be bunted over.
This is why you don’t bunt…You gift wrap an out…Arod had to wait for his pitch
Nice clutch AB again with ADud. Of course giving away an out in the 5th was also brilliant.
Ugh.
Tyler Austin just got hit in the helmet with a pitch and left the game (walked off the field). Hopefully, he is OK. Not the kind of debut you want to have. (via a tyanks email to me; she is at the game.)
single, wasted out bunt, ground out, ground out
Most bunts are stupid but this was especially dumb considering that Granderson does not hit Shields at all. Also its the 5th inning
Oh I’d love Carlos Ruiz and so would the Yankee pitchers. I agree.
Bo,
Yes he is amazing…You know that he is tired when he starts to leave the ball up in the zone.
Trader-
What would it take to land ruiz in your opinion? Again… i know ruiz is not really for sale.. but just want to gauge what it would take. Is it something that you would be okay with the yankees doing?
tyler austin was hit in the head by a pitch, walked off without help, but, out of the game. None of the three have hits tonight except for sanchez’ RBI double.
YF,
Hopefully nothing serious
An ill advised bunt and then Grandy and A Rod promptly roll over. Gaack.
And both of them up in the count. Zone hitting, hah – How about guess hitting
not the best Tampa debut for Austin…hope he’s ok as well….Sanchez hit a double in the game.
I tried something new and took a few minutes to attempt to compose myself after this series of events, but I need help reconciling these facts.
Bottom 4, molina singles, #8 hitter homers……rays trailed 4-3 before this occurred…..rays are not a home run oriented team
Top 5, wise singles, #1 hitter bunts…..in front of a guy who is 6-50 something vs shields……on a team that uses the long ball…..with a speedy runner on first….down 5-4
Explain to me why that makes any sense? And saying jeter was bunting for a hit is ridiculous because he of all people should know he gets thrown out by half a step no matter what happens when he bunts.
where is that? wow….right down the freaking middle
Carlo-
explain to me why we always to at the trop. It has almost been a full year since we have won a game there. It doesn’t matter how bad the rays have been playing, they play like the worlds greatest team when we come to town.
luis, I’ll get an update from tyanks if she gets one. She has it on video; he actually hit the ground, then got up and walked off. So, fingers crossed.
John, Suzyn, and Feinsand talking about Gary Sanchez’s promotion to AAA
I will give Jeter the beefit o the doubt. He doesn’t make mental errors. He must have been bunting for a hit.
Yankees started off 2 for 2 with RISP, now 3 for 7. Time to score some runs!
“John, Suzyn, and Feinsand talking about Gary Sanchez’s promotion to AAA”
lol! call him on up to the show
LGY, A+???
Jeter bunted on his own, But A-Rods at bat was just horrible and he has just out and out sucked. Tough to think we have so many more years left with this clown.
You might as well call up one of these highly touted catchers to the MLB. Cant be any worse than what weve got now.
I think Jeter was half bunting for a hit and half moving the runner….it was one of those deals where he bunted for a hit but the primary goal was to move the runner…..I hate it either way in the 5th inning.
Robi en fuego!
This ump has jobbed Nova on at least four or five pitches. I actually went and looked.
Id rather Joe Girardi be our everyday catcher than either of these 2 turds.
Robbie-there are no outs now
Oh, good – The other, out of control swinger. This should be aggravating.
Swish…Sit CU and go the other way
Swisher if you bunt I will freak.
I think Gary Sanchez would be better RIGHT NOW.
Bo, he was squeezing Nova early.
LGY – its laughable how putrid they are.
Tabbert – I cannot explain it
All – why isn’t swisher bunting here? Leadoff guy is on and we’re down 1. Isn’t this auto bunt territory even if the opposing starter gives u a hit and a half per inning?
To whever askked if we are gonna see Mitchell tonight, I hope not, because we need him for Phelps tomorrow, who is on a pitch count of probably 85
Thanks YF…Looking forward on updates
Our best hitters coming up here.
Come on Ibanez
Nick Goody pitches a perfect 9th in Charleston’s 3-2 win. 2 strieouts, 12 pitches, 11 strikes.
Like I said, excellent AB.
Ugh. Out.
Bone headed play
YAY!!! Good send home!!! This game is clearly a loss
This team goes out of their way to lose in this building.
Nice send there
Can we please get a new 3rd base coach….Thompson is killing them seriously…..awful.
Woah!! Nick Goody!! In a Charleston win!! My god, that Charleston win really helps the Yankees. You dirty perverted old man GB7
Cano was safe
Our best hitters coming up here.
Boy, aint that the truth. Honest at bats.
Yep, Thompson almost always sends no matter. SMH.
Every move they make in Tampa lately is the wrong one. Of course with Thompson coaching third base, the wrong move is the norm.
Do you guys think the next time Hughes has a chance to pitch the 9th. Joe will let him? It seemed to have backfired with the pen the following day he didn’t have him pitch the 9th.
Pathetic.
Simply pathetic baserunning.
Bo, unfortunately, I wasn’t being facetious.
that was a desperate send by thomson at 3rd….it shows his lack of confidence in this team’s clutch hitting….he has done this before .
We want Mo Mo,
If GB7 wants to post stuff about the Yanks minor league system, they are some of us who are interested. If you dont like dont read it……
This could be it…You don’t send a very slow player to home with only one out…Instead of having men in 2nd and 3rd with one out, forcing them to play infield in, you get just one man on third with two outs. Bone headed play
How’s the catcher next yr?
Yep, the man has no idea of how many outs, who’s coming up, etc.
Keeps talking about aggessive – must hurt to be so stupid.
Can we somehow trade Rob Thompson back to Matchbox 20?
When did the Trop become a house of horrors?
Cano was safe
And then they can’t bring in the run from 3rd w/ 1 out…
At least we get creative in tampa
It was a bad send but I think he was safe
jeter was bunting for a hit, nothing wrong with that..
UPDATE: Robbie Thompson, one of the worst thrid base coaches I have ever seen! Has no clue what speed his runners possess and always makes questionable sends or non-sends! sheesh!
cano might have been safe but it’s still a bad send.
Sorry to say we are going to lose this game tonight at this score, maybe Tampa tacks on a few. Sweep tomorrow. Hopefully they regroup to split a four game series in Boston and regroup during the AS break.
thomson wants to be a mgr and is out to prove his genius.
with Martin up next, I thought it was worth sending Cano.
mick July 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
cano might have been safe but it’s still a bad send.
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This organizaton is filled with fools. How Thomson is allowed to be our 3B coach for multiple years is disgusting. This guy shouldnt even be allowed to be a food server at McDonalds.
with Martin up next, I thought it was worth sending Cano.
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chavez was on deck
LathamJoe……How have you been ???
Red Sox released Bobby Jenks. Isn’t he still on the DL?
Besides the 2 defensive errors, we have two ridiculous baserunning errors tonight as well. Error costs us last nights game and we basically have 4 errors in 6 innings again tonight.
As SJ44 says, Alex may no longer even be an everyday player anymore, let alone a middle of the lineup hitter.
How Thomson is allowed to be our 3B coach for multiple years is disgusting.
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Girardi loves him and will defend him in the post game.
if jeter chose to bunt on his own, he was bunting for a hit…you can’t criticize the man, he has baseball IQ higher than the average Lohud genius.
Hey JAP!
He might have been safe…But it was a horrible sent to home
This organizaton is filled with fools. How Thomson is allowed to be our 3B coach for multiple years is disgusting. This guy shouldnt even be allowed to be a food server at McDonalds.
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Order taker maybe ?
Very very difficult for this years team to maintain long rallies. They either strike quick with a bomb or they fizzle out and underwhelm with multiple baseruuners
Russel the muscle!!
We have two third string catchers
TB gets by on brains, we use brawn, we force the issue against them…they are in our head.
Oh, Martin grounded out…..how novel…..I expected so much more from a 180 hitter in july.
One of the silliest things is complaining about 3rd base coaches. of course it always comes after a runner is tagged at home. Easy target. Thomson is generally pretty good. Maybe he made a mistake on that one. But they won’t be right all the time. the only valid criticism is if he were consistently bad, which he is not.
mick July 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
if jeter chose to bunt on his own, he was bunting for a hit…you can’t criticize the man, he has baseball IQ higher than the average Lohud genius.
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TRUE again !
Bo, unfortunately, I wasn’t being facetious.
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Oh, I agree with you completely. True professionals at work.
They seldom give away at bat.
One of the silliest things is complaining about 3rd base coaches. of course it always comes after a runner is tagged at home.
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did you see the replay? cano was halfway to 3rd when the RF picked the ball up.
Atta boy, Jeet!!
The Yanks have to do a better job against the Rays in these games. It seems like they make too many mistakes, errors and over all don’t play crisp baseball against them. Once they fall behind the at bats are terrible.
El Capitan
Russel the muscle!!
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Martin needs to take his muscle and sit on the bench. He is completely lost at the plate and K Long doesn’t seem able to help him.
I smell a Trisha drive by hallmark Moment – she likes to check in about now to start arguments with perceived complainers
Ugh
“with Martin up next, I thought it was worth sending Cano.”
Chavez was up next
We have a lot of bad jitters…power hitters, yes, but also bad hitters
We want mo mo,
Um, no, just no. Thompson for the most part gets it right. He messed up there sure, but you’re being ridiculous.
this team is so stupid, you have horrible lifetime numbers against shields and he’s fallen behind 2-0 and you swing and pop it up. ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Russel the Muscle aint juicing. So he sucks. But Jarrod Salta-crapstain is juicing, so he’s on pace for 30+ homers.
luis July 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Hey JAP!
He might have been safe…But it was a horrible sent to home
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primo, I think what saved them on that was the airmail throws. Nothing hit the ground, but when the ball didn’t kick out there and sort of rolled around, I think that’s what prompted him to send him. I probably would not have sent him either, but he was safe.
Next inning the trio of ARod, Cano and Swisher be be swinging for the fences.
Don’t you think Cashman & the Brass have had more than enough of Martin. DL the piece of nothing and lets move on. Anybody is better than what he adds to this team.
10 hits off Shields, just not enough runs.
Base running & errors.
yanks are 2-4 since andy went down. #worried.
Hassey – that’s a virtual lock. God forbid if people care enough to get emotional and speak out of frustration about the team. They must be trolls/sock puppets/lowlifes/fans of the suxers…..or many of the other stupid adjectives she uses.
move on to what? Stewie? Cervelli? Every option is bad…..
Adonis Garcia in to replace Tyler Austin and in his first pro at bat, hits a homer.
It’s time for a pitching change
XBH kill Nova.
Seriously not to pile on the guy but at this point is Martin contributing anything? Stewie would be a better option as the everyday catcher at this point.
Granderson pulled off the ball, that’s not news.
He did it his last at bat as well. Probably top bat speed on the team – just bad mechanics.
Hey Hassey—Aint Bee wants you, Gomer and Floyd to come on over for some peach pie
Thank god. Way to pull nova after the lead off double binder joe.
TB is a no name overachieving team carried by its pitching staff no doubt but they do hit in the clutch.
Can I say that?
I would take Gustavo Molina over this piece of crap..
I like the idea of Carlos Ruiz but Philly would want Banuelos.
This is not necessarily directed at Chavez, but I cannot support Girardi’s decision to “rest” players in a divisional game like this. They have 3 days off after Sunday – why are we “resting” players against the Rays? And with Price pitching tomorrow? We’ve handled him reasonably well, but I’d prefer to have the “A” lineup for games against these guys.
fortunate to not get a balk call there.
I wonder when Girardi and Cashman are going to realize that Martin is useless. It seems like they are too scared of him to make a move. He obviously can’t hit anymore and it’s not a small sample size this has been going on since last May. Stewart is a much better option and he actually gets hits.
“I like the idea of Carlos Ruiz but Philly would want Banuelos.”
I’m sure they would if not more….Ruiz has a 1+ OPS this year….
… Don’t you think Cashman & the Brass have had more than enough of Martin. …
Ummm, offense by catchers is not the problem. Arod at cleanup is hurting much more than what the catchers are doing at the plate. And Tex is a bit better than earlier this year but when was the last time he carried the team for a week or two? Ibanez has been a more reliable RBI guy than Tex.
They are sticking with Martin b/c they traded Montero…he is their guy and they think he will finish at .250.
Potentially Available Catchers
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 3 at 11:19am CST]
MLBTR will be previewing the trade market at various positions between now and the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline. We’ll start the series off today with a look at some potentially available catchers:
Kurt Suzuki, Athletics – Suzuki’s his trade value may have reached an all-time low. Measured by wOBA, he ranks 58th out of the 64 MLB catchers with at least 50 plate appearances. Plus, his contract calls for a $6.45MM salary in 2013 and an $8.5MM club option in 2014 — enough to deter some potentially interested teams. Suzuki could clear waivers, making him an August trade candidate.
Ramon Hernandez, Rockies – Hernandez, who’s now on the 15-day disabled list with a strained hand, could interest teams looking to add a veteran backstop if his rehab goes well. He’ll earn $3.2MM in 2013 under his current contract.
Geovany Soto, Cubs – Soto hasn’t done much at the plate so far in 2012. He earns $4.3MM this year and though he’s under team control through 2013, he must be considered a non-tender candidate. Keep in mind that this contract could also slip through waivers in August.
Kelly Shoppach, Red Sox – The Red Sox could move Shoppach and create roster space for Ryan Lavarnway. Jarrod Saltalamacchia’s emergence might make it easier for Ben Cherington to part with Shoppach, a right-handed hitter who’s best used in a platoon. Only two catchers have a better wOBA than Shoppach’s .378: Carlos Ruiz and Jonathan Lucroy.
Humberto Quintero, Royals – The Royals designated Quintero for assignment last week, so he’s definitely available. The 32-year-old posted a .232/.257/.341 batting line in 144 plate appearances before losing his roster spot.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
this was from earlier today…..all these guys pretty much stink too
Good job by Nova regardless…He gave us length, if not a quality start…The defense let him down in this one big time..Still managed to give six innings. Good k Rapada!
The usual inept display by the offense. Plenty of hits but not enough runs to show for it.
Good for Adonis Garcia, the Yankees much cheaper version of Soler and Puig. The other OF’er signed yesterday Alexander Palma, looks good on video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyIig2cGPp8
I’d like to bench Martin, as well.
Adams and Murton with 2 hits (Murton with a homer). Z. Almonte and Muruszac with 3 hits (both homered), Mesa with 3 hits and 2 doubles. Trenton won 11-3.
Chavez, Ibanez and now Wise are pulling their weight. Where is ARod? Sorry to say he’s very unclutch.
Choochoo- how could you spit on Mayberry and Andy Griffith on a holy day like today?
That’s what is so amazing–Granderson’s top bat spped on the team. That’s why he’s hitting .240 and is trending toward 200 strikeouts.
His bat speed is so terrific that umpires can’t even see it and have to guess whether or not he swung. They often guess that he has even when he hasn’t because they feel a breeze and mistake it for a swinging bat.
Pruf
Tex had horrible numbers against Shields so the binder wouldn’t allow Joe to start him. Maybe he will pitch hit for Chavez if we get to the TB pen
I thought the Rays had no offense. Not against the Yanks.
The Rays crappy hitters have tons of luck in these games. Their lineup is one of the worst ever but some how they get the job done….against the Yanks at least.
Primo,
Good point
Ibanez and Chavez are carrying the team today and Chavez would likely have gotten home Cano from 3rd if thomson held him.
On the plus side this game has been much easier to listen to without Kay and o’neill in the booth.
Keep dreaming that he will hit .250…He will be lucky to hit .220
Russel the Muscle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another run Martin costs them.
Ok – we done talking about martin? He flat out sucks. Period.
On the plus side this game has been much easier to listen to without Kay and o’neill in the booth.
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because we have grownups doing this game that leave their egos at the door and let the game breath.
Martin is absolutely dreadful
Ugh!! Just what we needed
Martin is killing us today
This has been one of the crappiest games of the year to watch….maybe it’ll have a happy ending…
As Russell Martin loses any remaining friends he has on the LoHud, the real question is, what is this music playing behind the MLB ASG promo? It really sounds like Battles to me, does anyone else agree within the possibly-nonexistant group of people here who are familiar with Battles?
Just cost us 4 runs. But Cashman wont be looking for any upgrade. Not now. Not on July 31.
Since last May Martin is probably hitting about .180. It’s time for Stewart to start catching more games. Cashman and Girardi’s obsession with Martin is insane.
Yankees are kicking so much butt here.
because we have grownups doing this game that leave their egos at the door and let the game breath.
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Really impressed with Sweet Lou. He adds a lot to the broadcast.
maddon loves to taunt us, the big bad stupid ogre that comes to town…
double steals, shifts, small ball up the ying yang.
OK boys and girls. Time to watch some boring nature show on Discovery channel.
astrocityfan July 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Pruf
Tex had horrible numbers against Shields so the binder wouldn’t allow Joe to start him. Maybe he will pitch hit for Chavez if we get to the TB pen
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city,
Tex’s general issues left-handed have not been lost on me, especially against change ups. Nevertheless, playing guys out of position so often is bound to catch up with you. I like Chavez’s discrimination at the plate and he’s a gamer, but I prefer to see him backing up Alex at 3B.
The Yans ahve looked dreadful in these games against the Rays. Too many mistakes and bone headed plays and errors.
This guy sort of reminds me of Phil Hughes from behind.
Martin sure is giving me backache. Price vs. Phelps tomorrow. What price the sweep?
Agree mick
I’d take singleton and flash over the Kay / o’neill comedy tour 8 days a week. Throw in David Cone and I’m set
I guess Joe not using the binder because Qualls has had trouble with lefties.
It has finally taken its toll on the pen but we knew this was coming.
The loss of Mo has had a ripple effect.
J. Alfred Prufrock July 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 pm
astrocityfan July 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Pruf
Tex had horrible numbers against Shields so the binder wouldn’t allow Joe to start him. Maybe he will pitch hit for Chavez if we get to the TB pen
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city,
Tex’s general issues left-handed have not been lost on me, especially against change ups. Nevertheless, playing guys out of position so often is bound to catch up with you. I like Chavez’s discrimination at the plate and he’s a gamer, but I prefer to see him backing up Alex at 3B.
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Especially with a sinkerballer like Nova on the mound
Can’t these neighbors wait til tmw to sound off their fireworks?
… It has finally taken its toll on the pen but we knew this was coming.
The loss of Mo has had a ripple effect. ..
true that
Think the Rays were 3-9 coming into this series. I knew it would be tough as these games are must-wins for them but we sure have made it hard on ourselves. Plus lately we never seem to score in the later innings.
. Alfred Prufrock July 3rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
This is not necessarily directed at Chavez, but I cannot support Girardi’s decision to “rest” players in a divisional game like this. They have 3 days off after Sunday – why are we “resting” players against the Rays? And with Price pitching tomorrow? We’ve handled him reasonably well, but I’d prefer to have the “A” lineup for games against these guys.
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Girardi has never taken into account the team’s we’re playing when he decides to “rest” players. How many Sox games have the Yanks played while their best players were resting on the bench? TOO MANY.
IDIOTIC move against tough divisional rivals.
Yankee Trader July 3rd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
I guess Joe not using the binder because Qualls has had trouble with lefties.
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It’s his new toy…So he is playing with it
We said this vs. the Mets – you don’t need a lineup of 747s when you have a knack for getting two out hits
Will the start Nova on Sunday or is Garcia still slated to start? I mean with the ASB coming up. I would think they will start the 2nd half with CC, Kuroda, and Hughes. So it would make sense for Nova to go on Sunday.
All good points Pruf. It was more a crack at Joe’s binder dependency than anything else.
Think the Rays were 3-9 coming into this series.
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They and the rs get up for the yankees like the JV gets up for the Varsity.
Remember when the yankees had all these awesome Catchers in the pipeline?
Arod = $28M of outs.
being swept on July 4th?
I really wonder what the Yanks are going to do with Arod. He is basically a strike out, or fly ball out. He really looks lost. The Yanks get almost nothing from Arod and Tex on an everyday basis.
garcia and hughes are going Sat.
Nova Sunday.
Brian Roberts on the 15 dl
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Girardi and Cashman make a change in the catcher position.
Guys have lost their roles for not playing well, and have gained roles for playing well this season. Our catcher position seems prime for that. By all means, it’s welcomed. Anything to score more runs and prevent more runs.
I’ll take this sweep right now if someone guarantees me a split of the 4 game fenway series. A 1 and 6 road trip into the ASB is very possible right now on paper. Only upside is that it probably pushes management to recognize they can’t rest on the team as it is if they actually plan to win in october.
Especially with a sinkerballer like Nova on the mound
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primo, yeah, even moreso because of this.
I really wonder what the Yanks are going to do with Arod.
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Maybe something is wrong with his eyes, doesn’t seem to be seeing pitches well. Tentative.
I can’t believe the Yankees can’t win at the trop
I have a better feeling with Chavez (bad back and all) at bat in a clutch situation than when ARod bats.
Yeah, Blaster, I remember…..around the time they had all these awesome pitchers.
We’ve only lost 6 games in a row at the trop, including tonights loss. Those 3 games at the end of last year dont count.
… I really wonder what the Yanks are going to do with Arod. …
That’s easy: pay him 30M/yr for another 5 yrs.
without gardner the yanks are basically an all or nothing team.
oh yea i keep forgetting about the DH
Mark Teixeira is a career .125 hitter against James Shields. He’s had 48 at-bats against him and has yet to drive in a run or get an extra base hit.
It’s as good a time to sit him as any.
Madden is so full of himself. He thinks outside of the box, my ass. He thinks too much. Why make a pitching change up 3 runs what is Cano going to hit a 3 run homer w/noone on base.
MLB average catcher in 2012: .248 .316 .400
Russell Martin: .183 .303 .355
MLB average CS%: 27%
Russell Martin: 25%
Is Russell Martin starting catcher quality?
Girardi has never taken into account the team’s we’re playing when he decides to “rest” players. How many Sox games have the Yanks played while their best players were resting on the bench? TOO MANY.
IDIOTIC move against tough divisional rivals.
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Considering he saw fit to “rest” Robertson (and bring in Ayala), instead of pitching him in relief iand try to salvage Game 2 of the ALDS last year, even though he hadn’t pitched in two days, I guess beating out AL East rivals for the division is relatively small potatoes.
Maybe Swisher too will be trying for the 3 run homer to tie the game.
Game oveeeeeerrrr?????
The team will be fine. We were in complete beast mode until we lost andy and CC. Both of those guys will be back and hopefully we will regain that awesome form. Martin, however is a different story. We have to find a way to replace him. Also.. i think the mixing and matching of relievers is starting to catch up to us. The bullpen has been getting taxed so much this year. Yanks really need to add to the bullpen and get another catcher.
I hate watching these guys go down so easy in the late innings. There aren’t a lot of guys that they can count on from night to night. The lineup is very poor if Cano isn’t driving in every run
Well we can try again next inning for back to back to back homers to send it into extras.
Hey Hassey—Roscoe P. Coltrain and Boss Hogg need your help in convincing The Duke Boys to turn themselves in. Get Little Luke. Quick.
The worst sin by Martin today isn’t his bad play, it’s his bad game calling. One at bat he had Nova throw sliders four out of seven pitches. Another, seven CBs, Pena is a 200 hitter.
Now Nova hurt his arm last fall throwing a slider and has one of the top sinkers in the Majors. Tampa has a low average hitting team, they’re not Boston. The slider should be his SO pitch
I wouldn’t be surprised if Nova pulled up lame after that pathetic display by Martin
The key to a successful pen is to have them know their role.
Mixing and matching is a crapshoot and will kill a pen.
He depended on Wade so much he proctorized him.
We’re just allowing the Red Sox back into this.
I don’t understand why people think Gardner is going to change the ENTIRE dynamic of the team. He will definitely bring a different element to our game; BUT he will still be the ONLY player to do that. If we had 2-3 guys coming in, similar to Gardner, than absolutely, our team dynamic changes drastically. This is only one player though, and it’s unfair to think he will steal every base, hit every ball, and make every diving catch. Gardner will only help this team, but everyone else still needs to contribute. Gardner alone won’t make us the best. It’s a team effort.
This is really a different offense when Arod doesn’t hit…..I hope he comes out of this because they need him badly to be better than he has been.
Well we can try again next inning for back to back to back homers to send it into extras.
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Only if I call for it..
Stop the Martin hate. He’s not the problem. Sure a bad game tonight but a former All Star who had a good year for for us in 2011. How about ARod and Tex non-clutch hitting? Or the bullpen strained by injuries? Or losing #’s one and two pitchers? And somehow Martin is the problem????
Choochoo- me and Daisy will double date with you and Crazy Cooter
jacksquat July 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Mark Teixeira is a career .125 hitter against James Shields. He’s had 48 at-bats against him and has yet to drive in a run or get an extra base hit.
It’s as good a time to sit him as any.
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You would be playing him for his excellent defense, with a ground ball pitcher on the mound. Especially when the pitching match ups are not in your favor like in this series. If we lose this game, the amount of pressure to Phelps is inmense. You don’t want that for the kid.
Bo Knows,
Very good points on Martin’s game calling
Everyone is allowed bad games but Martin isn’t even playing at league average and hasnt been for a while. He isn’t the ONLY problem but he is A problem.
This Rodriguez kills us.
What a catch by Russ the Muss!
blake,
I agree. ARod does (or did) have the type of bat to win a game with only 3 at bats. ARod is NO-WHERE NEAR what he was just a few years back, and it’s hard to guess if this is a slump season, or this is what we will be seeing. If it’s the later, than hewill be one expensive bench player in a few years.
LGY-
Not a good offensive year for many catchers that were former all-stars like McCann:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/b...../minpa/175
what % of the calls are made by martin?
doesn’t pena give him a large % of them.
Hassey no dates nor expressions of love over the internet. That’s strictly reserved for true blue underwear stripes Trishia
Before today’s game Giradi says he loves what he see in Qualls. Give me a break. Guy is a loser.
Stole that one off qualls….not much Martin could do there
dude, martin is hitting .180 on the season. I don’t care if he is a 10 time all star. .180 is .180. Any other big league team would have dealt with this loser. Joe Girardi and the yankees just have way too much confidence in every player on the roster. Everyone on here has the right to hate on martin as much as they want. He is probably the most hated player on the yankees. The dude flat out sucks at baseball.
Sorry guys but if Arod gave you $30M value at cleanup and Tex did not have year to year declining production then we would not be talking about Martin. When the team struggles other guys sometimes try to do too much to pick up the slack. The stars get paid to win games and they have underperformed.
Blake,
The three SBs are more on the pitchers than on Martin, except the one with men on first and third. He should have either kept the ball or make sure that he made a good throw. To be fair, Cano did a pretty lousy coverage of the throw as well. All in all, a very bad game for the defense
I think we should round up a posse, start burning a few big sticks and go hunt down Martin after the game.
astrocityfan July 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
All good points Pruf. It was more a crack at Joe’s binder dependency than anything else.
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Scary, isn’t he?
I really wish teams could just pay their players the remainder of their contract and just cut them. Scary to think about how much longer arod will be here.
cano runs himself into a Dp…thomson runs us out of an inning…how many mistakes can you make and still win?
Martin isn’t on the list of most disliked players amongst their peers:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....overrated/
this is a bad team to letdown against, they will make you pay.
Not asking Martin to win games or even be an all star. But average I think is an acceptable requirement. Everyone on this team is paid a lot of money to do their job and right now Martin isn’t doing his well at all
need two base runners and then hope somebody hits one out
krs-
what are you talking about? The yankees have been playing AMAZING baseball for the last 5 weeks. The loss of CC and ANDY has hurt us more than anything. Our offense is not scoring like it has in the past seasons… but its still good. Arod and Tex can still provide pop and drive in runs. They also both play solid Defense. Martin has no bat, he is okay on defense… so he really brings nothing to the table.
Good night. Have a safe and happy 4th.
luis July 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
jacksquat July 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Mark Teixeira is a career .125 hitter against James Shields. He’s had 48 at-bats against him and has yet to drive in a run or get an extra base hit.
It’s as good a time to sit him as any.
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You would be playing him for his excellent defense, with a ground ball pitcher on the mound. Especially when the pitching match ups are not in your favor like in this series. If we lose this game, the amount of pressure to Phelps is inmense. You don’t want that for the kid.
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I don’t have a problem with Chavez defensively at 1B, so it doesn’t bother me he is there occassionally, especially against a guy Tex has hit terribly against. One error by Chavez does not change my opinion.
if Ibanez and Chavez or either of them get on you have to hit Tex for Martin.
that’s been a ball the whole game
Let me try and make this simple for the many very slow learner here. Arod is a black hole. He is single handedly going to suck the Yankees down the drain. If you wish to waste your time venting here that is great. Try calling the Yankee front office and vent to anyone who picks up the phone. Tell them to dump this peiece of trash who they are stuck with for 5 more years. He need to go now. Where and how I don’t give a crap.
There is no bigger waste of money in sports and no person on any team who is disliked by his own team mates more then Arod. Biggest mistake in Yankee history
if Ibanez and Chavez or either of them get on you have to hit Tex for Martin.
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why wouldn’t he?
that was a ball
Tampa got this guy for a song. They’ve got an option on him for next season.
Hate is an awful word and an awful thing to do.
I’m fairly certain there is solid ground between “hating” Russell Martin and just being greatly disappointed that this is the successor to Jorge Posada whom they chose. Since they tried to lock him up, they did not view him as a stop-gap…which says a great deal about their evaluative skills.
But hey, you reap what you sow.
Blake at this point you could pinch hit pinella forartin and I wouldn’t mind
Martin’s forte is supposed to be his game calling. No catcher calls for three, four CBs in a row. Martin called five – in the first inning against Pena, hitting all of 200.
That is bloody criminal.
There is no bigger waste of money in sports and no person on any team who is disliked by his own team mates more then Arod.
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He has a following. Cano loves him.
This is still Jeter’s team but Arod would love for it to be his.
Always has.
Never will.
Sending all the good vibes to Martin here.
Keep your head in Martin
We’ve lost 2 straight to a team full of Russell Martins.
Game over
blah
What’s with his bow & arrow schtick?
DFA Martin.
I do hate losing to a team with Luke Scott on it.
Losing to the rays blows.
Astro,
Pinella was one hell of a hitter…Probably kicks Martin’s butt at it still
Last 2 games have been disappointing, because of the bad play, not just losing.
Just maybe Martin has Glaucoma and all of you critics should be ashamed of yourselves for ridiculing a disabled person.