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Jeter still a star among stars

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 10, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Even during his worst offensive season, Derek Jeter was the starting shortstop for the American League all-star team. In 2010, he won the fan vote ahead of Elvis Andrus, batted second behind Ichiro Suzuki and got a hit off Roy Halladay.

Tonight, Jeter will be back. After sitting out last year’s game — and catching some heat for it — Jeter will once again start at shortstop. Now that Ichiro is no longer playing at an all-star level, Jeter will hit leadoff for the first time.

“The whole atmosphere is fun,” Jeter said before leaving Boston on Sunday. “The whole experience is fun. It never gets old. Being around the guys is probably the thing you look forward to the most. You get an opportunity to talk to some players you really don’t know too well, and get an opportunity to know them. That’s probably the thing that stands out.”

This year’s All-Star Game is largely focused on the young guys. You’ll most certainly hear a lot about Mike Trout and Bryce Harper today, and it’s well deserved, but as my good friend Mark Feinsand wrote in today’s Daily News, Jeter still gets his share of attention. Even among the superstars, Jeter stands out.

“I had a lot of animosity toward DJ early on in my career,” Chipper Jones said. “He beat me in two World Series and I didn’t know him. I sat across the field from him so many times, saw all the accolades he was getting and was a little green with envy. Then I got a chance to play with him (at the 2006 World Baseball Classic), in the clubhouse, in the dugout, off the field at dinner. This is the best dude I have ever met. This guy deserves everything.”

 
 

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110 Responses to “Jeter still a star among stars”

  1. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    Boy, would Mike Trout look good in pinstripes. When interviewed, he said it was a thrill to face Pettitte, one of his favorite pitchers growing up.

    RePost-

    Who wouldn’t want Cole Hamels. The Yankees will not trade for him, empty the farm, and then watch him test FA only to give the Phillies first crack, while the Dodgers overwhelm him with an offer. Why would the Yankees try to extend him when they already are discussing a very costly extension for Cano.

    Plus look at his game log. His ERA doubled in June and July so far is not very good.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....ole-hamels

  2. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Watched the first half of the futures game last night…..couple of guys that jumped out at me…..Profar is going to be an absolute stud….hes got as much bat speed as ive seen from a guy his size…..really good looking player…..Also like Oscar Taveras and how he swung the bat…..wonder if the Cards would move him for pitching to try and repeat since Carpenter is out?

  3. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Blake-

    Wil Myers-where does he rank?

    Cash-
    I feel that Rivera, as I said, will be back and won’t be demanding a $15M one year, pre-retirement contract. Maybe a base with incentives.

  4. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Trader,

    I posted yesterday that there were two guys that coukd have easily been drafted by the Yankees ….Mike Trout and Nick Castellanos…that would have pretty much potentially changed wherr they are as a franchise ……Trout obviously the Yanks would have probably picked if the Angels hadnt snatched him first…..but Castellanos was there when they picked Culver in 2010.

    Imagine if Trout was in the big leagues for the Yanks and Castellanos was there in AA waiting to take over 3B for Alex…..Alex becomes the DH when hes ready and everything…..oh well….its painful to think about what ifs in the baseball draft…..

  5. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    “Wil Myers-where does he rank?”

    High….but I dpubt the Royals wpuld trade him now

  6. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    Greinke to the Cards for Oscar Taveras and others?

  7. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Oh and Gerrit Cole who gave up a 3 run homer but otherwise his stuff is electric….touched 100

  8. austinmac July 10th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    It sure would be helpful if the Yankees knew by free agency period if Mo’s health allows him to return.

  9. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    “Greinke to the Cards for Oscar Taveras and others?”

    They could do something like that…..I was thinking more from the Yankees POV though

  10. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Justin Upton Rumors: Tuesday

    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 10 at 7:56am CST]

    The Diamondbacks are willing to listen to trade offers for Justin Upton, the 24-year-old outfielder who finished fourth in National League MVP voting a year ago. Teams are already checking in on Upton, and interest is said to be “huge.” Here’s the latest on the Diamondbacks and their right fielder:

    The Diamondbacks are seriously open to the idea of trading Upton, Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic confirms. The organization has outfield depth in the Majors and minors, so the club could replace his production in the short term. Some decision makers in the organization don’t seem crazy about Upton, as the recent comments of managing general partner Ken Kendrick suggest. The Diamondbacks would be looking for a third baseman, shortstop or top-of-the-rotation starter if they trade Upton, Piecoro reports. The Pirates are interested but they don’t match up well with Arizona, Piecoro writes. It’s possible the Blue Jays could be a fit, however. The Diamondbacks are known to like shortstop prospect Adeiny Hechavarria, though he wouldn’t be enough to tempt the Diamondbacks.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    Make it happen Cash

  11. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:19 am

    Id trade any pitcher the Yanks have not named Sabathia or Nova for Upton.

  12. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    Blake-

    I saw your posts, and always enjoy them.
    With regards to Mike Trout, he and other Yankee ifs and could have beens, are all tied to Mark Teixeira, as in Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, in this case Tex.

    I’ve never played the game but in this case the phenomenon rests on the assumption that any ballplayer involved in the baseball can be linked to Mark Teixeira within six steps. :)

  13. sunny615 July 10th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    I know this is old…but man, I get all teary eyed when I think that Trout could’ve been a Yankee had Hal and Cash been able to hold their wads on Tex (and Tex is a good Yankee too)…

  14. Cashmoney July 10th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    AA in Toronto is very aggressive in going after young talents in just about every avenue avail to them.

  15. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Blake-

    As we discussed yesterday, management must be fed up with Upton. I read his comments about the fans. He could have used a little more diplomacy but the media jumped all over it, rather than the rest of the comments about him trying to give it his best and realizing he’s letting his team down.

    They also think Stephen Drew is a malingerer.

    Also the Diamondbacks are 3 out in the loss column, so as was reported, some major league ready players will be involved.

    I’m with you-Cashman make it happen.

  16. tomingeorgia July 10th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    It’s interesting that through all the discussion of an Upton trade, with several teams reported to be interested, the Yankees haven’t been mentioned at all. Stealth, or simply lack of interest?

  17. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Blake-

    The Diamondbacks will want another OF’er in the deal, unless they plan to use Gerardo Parra, a very good defensive OF’er with speed- a younger version of Bret Gardner with more power.

    They could use a 3rd baseman and if they are fed up with Drew and his inability to stay healthy, they might want to try and move him too. They are set at 2nd, 1st, catcher.

    They need another starter to replace Daniel Hudson out for the year and they need bullpen help and would love to dump their closer JJ Putz.

    Can you think of a way that the Yankees could satisfy their needs, keeping them and the Yankees competitive this year?

    Anyone!!

  18. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Tom-

    Cashman and Towers are talking. “How’s the family. BTW Cash wasn’t it awful how the KC fans treated Cano last night? So you are returning my call and you’re interested in Upton. I think we can make it happen and maybe we’ll see each other in the World Series this year.”

    :)

  19. Against All Odds July 10th, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    Boy, would Mike Trout look good in pinstripes.

    ———————-

    Don’t remind us just kidding :)

  20. tomingeorgia July 10th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    YT,
    Why not? Cashman’s done it before.

  21. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    With all the noise around Upton is almost a lock they move him now.

    Didn’t think they would, tbh. When we talked about it last year it seemed like a pipe dream…. and now.. look where we are. Almost makes you want to revisit the Joba-to-the-rotation debate ;)

  22. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    “It’s interesting that through all the discussion of an Upton trade, with several teams reported to be interested, the Yankees haven’t been mentioned at all. Stealth, or simply lack of interest?”

    hard to say….the Yankees may just not have enough to get him…..but I hope they try anyway.

    Trader,

    you can drive yourself nuts playing the what if game with the baseball draft….

  23. 86w183 July 10th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    A mid-season blockbuster would be fun, but with the Yanks having the best record in the game and awaiting the likely returns of Gardner, Chamberlain, Pettite and Sabathia they are most certainly dealing from a position of strength.

    Someone else is bound to be more panicky and offer up more for Upton or any other quality guy on the board than the Yanks will.

    I still think their best shot at Upton is in the off-season.

  24. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    “With all the noise around Upton is almost a lock they move him now.”

    usually when the ball gets rolling on stuff like this it happens…..I don’t think they are there quite yet but there usually comes a point where the speculation almost makes the trade have to happen because you have risked making the player mad and everybody just wants to move on…..I think a couple of years ago Towers was just gauging to see if he could get a franchise changing return for Upton…..I think they are likely much more serious about dealing him this time.

  25. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    You will really enjoy this attached article on our Yankee slugger-Curtis Granderson, by Marc Carig today:

    “He insists that he does not consider himself a home run hitter and he often gets help in preserving the illusion. Cano could have selected Granderson for last night’s Home Run Derby. But Cano, the captain of the American League squad, knew better.”

    “He doesn’t hit homers in BP,” Cano said. :)

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._a_po.html

  26. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    “Can you think of a way that the Yankees could satisfy their needs, keeping them and the Yankees competitive this year?”

    perhaps something like Gardner, Banuelos, Nunez…..depends on how well they like those 3 players though…..I’d love to keep Gardner out of a deal to be honest….I would trade him if I had to but I’d love to keep him….trading Gardner for Upton probably makes the Yanks a little better this year….adding Upton to Gardner potentially makes them a lot better this year

  27. jr1212 July 10th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    Dont kno if this was posted, but if he does this …..WOW!!

    http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/y.....BdvzfDZPQK

  28. austinmac July 10th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    I don’t think the Yankees will get involved in Upton at the TD. They likely wouldn’t want to rock the successful boat. If he isn’t traded then, then maybe in the off season. However, I still believe they perceive his contract too expensive to work within the magic $189.

    However, I will hope as I have done many times of late.

  29. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    If you read the article, you’ll see that 6 homeruns hit this year would not have cleared the fences in RF in other parks. His swing has been completely revamped to take advantage of the 81 plus games played at YS.

    Will the Yankees and Curtis be able to work out an extension, or just let him get to FA and see if he gets a substantial offer elsewhere, knowing he is now a pull hitter and possibly not suited well for their ballparks.

  30. blake July 10th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    I think Upton’s deal would add an AAV of around 12 million to the payroll through 2015….the thing would be that if they acquired him then they would be in a better position to move Granderson if an affordable deal couldn’t be worked out with him.

    Jeter is Joe D…..he’s the star of stars in the game today.

  31. 86w183 July 10th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    With Arizona just four games out I’d be shocked if the D-Backs made a deal that really weakened them for the second half of the season.

    If they deal Upton they’ll need an OF for the second half of the season if not beyond. Parra is really brutal Vs. LHP…. especially this year.

  32. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    I’d love for them to approach Grandy with say a 4/60 or so extension to play LF going forward….

    In my ideal world they’d trade for Upton, extend Granderson and Cano….move Gardner to CF next year and have him play there until Mason is ready…..2013 outfield of Granderson, Gardner, Upton……

    of course they probably can’t get Upton without trading either Gardner or Williams and they probably can’t fit all that under the 2014 cap either…..but pipe dreams are fun to think about.

  33. Doc Iac July 10th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    joba pitchin today

    http://www.milb.com/milb/stats.....k_pirrok_1

  34. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Blake-

    They need a pitcher, maybe two, one for the bullpen to replace Putz who Towers might want to include in the deal.

    Which major league ready pitchers will get your deal done? Towers wants a deal before the trading deadline and has a Gardner clone in Parra, who is healthy. Plus is Nunez even playing now, or still on the shelf.

    Have to do better. :)

  35. Villa Nova-Ya July 10th, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Yankee Trader -

    Didn’t the article also say that in BP, Granderson hits the ball to all fields?

    Anyway, he may be more valuable to the Yankees than to anyone else, given that short porch and his game swing.

    Would love for him to cut down the Ks, though.

  36. LGY July 10th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Lard the RBI King, August Romaine, Eduardo Jeter Insurance Nunez, and Ray Kruml aka Gardner clone for Upton???

  37. Doc Iac July 10th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    http://thebiglead.com/index.ph.....le-minute/

    warning, if u watch this link could be the worst 57 seconds of ur life

  38. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    Trader,

    He’d ask for Nova I’m sure but I wouldn’t include him….he’s too good and too cheap. Phelps would be a nice piece and would probably fair well in the NL west I’d imagine…..Hughes is probably too close to free agency for them to have a ton of interest in him…..but they do want to compete this year and next so you never know.

  39. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    LGY,

    what’s your real proposal….how much would you give?

  40. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Royals To Seek Pitching Next Offseason
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 10 at 9:04am CST]
    The Royals are determined to sign a significant starting free agent pitcher for 2013 this coming offseason, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports. After a difficult first half that included a number of serious injuries, the Royals’ rotation ranks 28th in baseball with a 5.16 ERA.

    A Royals person told Knobler the team won’t settle for back-of-the-rotation types. “Not a fifth starter, but a real starting pitcher,” the person said. Knobler suggests Missouri native Shaun Marcum could be a fit given the Royals’ past interest in the right-hander.

    The Royals rotation currently consists of Bruce Chen, Luke Hochevar, Luis Mendoza, Jonathan Sanchez and Everett Teaford. With the exception of Sanchez, the entire rotation is under control through 2013 or beyond. Royals pitchers Felipe Paulino, Danny Duffy, Blake Wood and Joakim Soria all had their seasons cut short to undergo Tommy John surgery this year.

    Former Royals ace Zack Greinke headlines a class of free agent starting pitchers that figures to include Cole Hamels, Anibal Sanchez, Edwin Jackson, Ryan Dempster, Hiroki Kuroda and Marcum.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    good luck getting Hamels to go there or Greinke to come back……Hughes for Wil Myers!

  41. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    This is Upton’s contract:

    $1.25M signing bonus
    10:$0.5M, 11:$4.25M, 12:$6.75M, 13:$9.75M, 14:$14.25M, 15:$14.5M
    limited no-trade protection (may block deals to four clubs: Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, Oakland)

    Blake- If my math is correct the value of the contract for the 6 years is $51.25M, or an AAV of $8.54M

  42. LGY July 10th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    LGY,

    what’s your real proposal….how much would you give?

    —————

    Banuelos, 2/3 Charleston guys, Nunez?

  43. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Trader,

    when you trade for somebody apparently the AAV is calculated based on the amount left when you deal for him….I didn’t know this either until the other day when JF told me….

  44. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    “Banuelos, 2/3 Charleston guys, Nunez?”

    since the charleston guys are in Tampa now…..I agree!

  45. Tackelberry July 10th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    I disagree. DO NOT make it happen Cash. Do not empty the farm for this guy. He will be the next Ruppert Jones in NY. If he can’t hack it in AZ how will he perform under the pressure of NY.

  46. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    So Upton would be owed like 42 million through 2015….divide that by 3.5 years and that’s closer to an AAV of around 12…..which is still pretty cheap.

  47. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Upton hacked it pretty well in Arizona last year.

  48. LGY July 10th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    since the charleston guys are in Tampa now…..I agree!

    ————–

    :oops:

    Tampa guys just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

  49. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    “Tampa guys just doesn’t have the same ring to it.”

    yea I know….Trenton guys will have a nice ring though

  50. Yankee Trader July 10th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    Have to go. Have a great day everyone
    Until later.

  51. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    “Banuelos, 2/3 Charleston guys, Nunez?”

    I think this is a little too much if the Charleston guys are Sanchez and Williams. Where do JR Murphy and Sanchez fall on the depth chart again?

  52. LGY July 10th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    I think this is a little too much if the Charleston guys are Sanchez and Williams. Where do JR Murphy and Sanchez fall on the depth chart again?

    ———–

    True. You could probably get Dwight Howard for that package.

  53. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Howard is tall so theyd have to be patient with his development.

  54. Tar July 10th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    Wow what a great quote by Chipper. !!

  55. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Does it help the Yankees that guys like AJ and Kennedy take off once they leave NY? Its almost like they get used to a higher level and once they leave the game gets easier……I would think that would make Hughes attractive to some teams…..I would think the Royals would like to have him…..

  56. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Yea….good stuff from Larry Jones…..its too bad the Braves cant use the DH because if he could just hit and not have to play the field I think there are a few more hits in Chippers bat..

  57. Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    i’ve said it before, i really think the yanks will get themselves an upton, the only question is which one and when now or offseason. if gardner is not involved, and his arm is ok, then it might mean so long to swish (i’d miss him, he’s a good guy and a good player).

    if az has of help, and wants a 3b or ss, then nunez is their man. i think he’d do best with only one position to play. add in betances? i wonder what towers thinks of him. he has to be happy with the one pitcher they did get from cash, ipk. towers knows the system, he probably has ideas of who he’s like to get in that deal.

  58. austinmac July 10th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    That was quite a statement by Chipper. Jeter is just the kind of guy to bring out the best in Upton. I knew I could connect those two subjects somehow.

  59. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Thirteen months after blowing out his elbow and four months after dislocating his ankle, right-hander Joba Chamberlain appeared in his first minor league rehab game this morning. Pitching for the Rookie Level Gulf Coast League Yankees, he allowed an unearned run while striking out two in a hitless and walkless inning of work. Two errors by the third baseman and a passed ball allowed the run to score. Hooray rookie ball defense. No word on his velocity or pitch count, but I’m guessing the latter was in the 15-25 range.

    The appearance officially kicks off Chamberlain’s 30-day rehab clock, meaning the latest he can be activated off the DL is August 9th. That’s assuming everything goes as planned, which is hardly a safe bet. Joba will probably take the next two or three days off before making his next appearance, which could last two innings.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....nce-71811/

    Hooray

  60. Wave Your Hat July 10th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    If Pettitte were healthy I’d trade Nova for Upton, but with pitching thin right now it’s hard to deal a starter.

  61. Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    justin upton’s first few years are looking just like bj’s. idk how much i’d want to give up for that.

  62. Wave Your Hat July 10th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    “justin upton’s first few years are looking just like bj’s. idk how much i’d want to give up for that.”

    Upton is a risk but the upside potential justifies a gamble.

  63. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Nova is controlled for so long though…..Id trade him if they could go sign Hamels this winter…..but they cant and they need him to offset some of the other big contracts….plus I like him and hes good.

  64. Wave Your Hat July 10th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    “plus I like him and hes good.”

    Yeah but I think you have to take the long view. A year ago Arizona would have laughed if the Yanks proposed Nova for Upton. Now they’d at least think about it.

    But the salary is an issue I guess.

  65. blake July 10th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    “Yeah but I think you have to take the long view. A year ago Arizona would have laughed if the Yanks proposed Nova for Upton. Now they’d at least think about it.”

    Sure but its not a year ago….Towers would probably ask for Nova though….tough call and would be tough to do without knowing Pineda’s status.

  66. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    I’d give up Hughes over Nova.. and I dont like the idea of doing either, just for the record (since I know someone keeping one lol).

    blake – In the same vein, trading for Upton without knowing what’s going on with Gardner is kind of a pain too. We could end up with Upton, lose Swish, and still be an OFer short.

  67. Tiki July 10th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Ah, Jon Heyman – he of the Pettitte should call McNamee tweet on WFAN. He should be banned along w/Reggie.

  68. Wave Your Hat July 10th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    “Sure but its not a year ago….Towers would probably ask for Nova though….tough call and would be tough to do without knowing Pineda’s status.”

    Well you can’t make omelets without breaking eggs. It’s going to take something painful to lose if you want to land Upton. I think you just have to decide if you really want Upton.

  69. Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    i wouldnt trade any of our starters for upton unless they have some plan to bring in another starter at the deadline. and i think the overall cost of doing all that is too high. and i think upton will continue to be an inconsistent player.

  70. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    i wouldnt trade any of our starters for upton unless they have some plan to bring in another starter at the deadline.

    —————-

    They might feel okay with Freddie/AAA guys in the #5 slot, assuming they never see time in the post season.

  71. mick July 10th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    jeter , for all his stature, is still underrated, even by some yankee fans.
    you don’t take him for granted. without him, they wouldn’t be in 1st place right now…

  72. mick July 10th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    why would the yanks bring in a project?
    they just got rid of one in aj.
    when they drop swish , they will go after a cheaper alternative like torii hunter.

  73. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    “Well you can’t make omelets without breaking eggs. It’s going to take something painful to lose if you want to land Upton. I think you just have to decide if you really want Upton.”

    Yup

    “blake – In the same vein, trading for Upton without knowing what’s going on with Gardner is kind of a pain too. We could end up with Upton, lose Swish, and still be an OFer short.”

    Good point….whixh is why Id hate to include Gardner

  74. mick July 10th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    you don’t lie to the American public or reporters of the “truth.”
    this goes back to Watergate.
    this is the issue with the steroid users.
    they lied on tv just like Nixon.
    the reporters have the vote, payback is a biotch.

  75. Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    “without him, they wouldn’t be in 1st place right now…”

    jeter has been very good, but lets not get carried away. are you saying they couldnt be in first place with ian desmond or elvis andrus playing short or do you mean if he was out and nunez was the shortstop?

    because while jeter has been good, he’s not irreplaceable and hes not the best ss in baseball.

    props to the capn as always but lets be real.

  76. DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    The Yankees have suffered through the “Wonder Years” with Nova and Hughes, and Now that they are beginning to mature, your gonna trade one of them off for a project like Upton??? NOPE

  77. LGY July 10th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Don’t know many “projects” that have put up 2 .900 OPS seasons before their age 24 season.

  78. DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    “Have” being in the past tense.

  79. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    “blake – In the same vein, trading for Upton without knowing what’s going on with Gardner is kind of a pain too. We could end up with Upton, lose Swish, and still be an OFer short.”

    Good point….whixh is why Id hate to include Gardner

    ——————–

    Even if we keep him and make the move, are you comfortable penciling him in for 140ish games next season?

  80. 86w183 July 10th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    If Joba looks good over his next 3-4 outings he can be a factor at the trading deadline, either as a piece to a deal or as reinforcements should they choose to move someone else like Eppley or Phelps.

    Personally I really like what Phelps might become and would cling to him pretty tightly.

    Eager to hear some word on what teams will become sellers and when. If the Yanks can get their guys healthy they’ll stand pat I would imagine.

    Hughes for Wil Meyers is the kind of trade the Yankees never make, but should on occasion. I’d prefer it in the off-season with CC coming off the DL and Pettite out til Labor Day (more or less).

    If they are going to move Hughes I’d like to know if the Rockies would view him as a big step towards a Carlos Gonalzes package.

  81. LGY July 10th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    “Have” being in the past tense.

    ————

    Yeah that was a really long time ago. He did it at 23 and now he’s 24!!!

  82. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    “Even if we keep him and make the move, are you comfortable penciling him in for 140ish games next season?”

    no….he has a hard time staying healthy.

    I would trade Hughes for Upton because I think Upton would upgrade the offense more than the rotation would be downgraded by going from Hughes to Phelps…..but I think Towers would want somebody with more control than Hughes.

  83. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    AndrewMarchand Joba thew 97 today in his first minor league rehab, according to @NewsdaySports
    about 1 minute ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    Marchand’s gun doesn’t lie…..nice!

  84. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    “If they are going to move Hughes I’d like to know if the Rockies would view him as a big step towards a Carlos Gonalzes package.”

    doubt it…..Hughes + Coors Field wouldn’t be a good idea I wouldn’t think….they’d want Nova too I’d imagine because he can sink the ball and he’s controlled a lot longer

  85. Villa Nova-Ya July 10th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    Just FYI, Kennedy’s having a more pedestrian season so far, especially as compared to his stellar season in 2011.

  86. 86w183 July 10th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    To me Nova is the # 1 person on the list of guys I don’t want them trading.

    Hughes would be phenomenal in San Diego. Hughes, Nunez and Austin for Headley and Maybin?

  87. Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    im with blake, i think i’d trade them hughes, although im worried about getting andy back. but no way id trade nova.

  88. DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Again people, this is an Owner motivated Auction. Towers at this point is merely the Vocal Auctioneer. The owner is ultimately gonna be the guy dropping the gavel. This is Exactly why you do NOT go “all in” with your bid. You have an owner that does Not appreciate this player, and the home town crowd is booing this player. The Buyer has the leverage.

  89. LGY July 10th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    IPK is giving up 10 H/9. Can’t imagine it staying at that level in the 2nd half.

  90. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    “Even if we keep him and make the move, are you comfortable penciling him in for 140ish games next season?”

    no….he has a hard time staying healthy.

    ———————

    If we got Upton and had Grandy, we’re all assuming Swish is gone.. do we go with Grandy, Upton, and Jones/Ibanez/Someone else horrible, next year? Do we try to flip Grandy in the off season?

  91. rl1856 July 10th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Phelps, DJ Mitchell and Nunez for Upton. Let Swish walk. Long term deal for Granderson. 2013 OF is Grandy, Gardner, Upton. Younger, better, faster at the expense of backup for the left side of the IF. Money comes from departure of Swish, Feliciano. Still have to find another starter if Pineda returns and Pettitte retires.

  92. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    “Hughes would be phenomenal in San Diego. Hughes, Nunez and Austin for Headley and Maybin?”

    that’s an interesting deal….depends on whether you believe in Headley’s splits and how much Petco is hurting him I guess.

    “If we got Upton and had Grandy, we’re all assuming Swish is gone.. do we go with Grandy, Upton, and Jones/Ibanez/Someone else horrible, next year? Do we try to flip Grandy in the off season?”

    I think if you trade Gardner then trading Granderson goes out the window unless you can sign Melky or believe that Mason will be along sooner than later.

  93. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    2013 OF is Grandy, Gardner, Upton.

    ——————–

    If I knew who our 4th OFer was I’d feel more comfortable with this plan.. I think counting on Gardner to be a full time player is probably unlikely.

  94. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    “Phelps, DJ Mitchell and Nunez for Upton.”

    that gets you a dial tone rather quickly on the call I’d imagine

  95. rl1856 July 10th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Also, do not consider including Joba in any deal. 97 on the gun today. I expect him to pick up another mph or 2 before his rehab is over. He will be a difference maker in the 2nd half and PS.

  96. Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    upon further review i would not trade hughes. we dont know about pettitte or kuroda for next season and can’t count on betances or banuelos.

  97. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    blake – I thought we weren’t trading Gardner lol? In my scenario, we’re still waiting for Gardner to get healthy lol, that’s why I didn’t put him in the OF. You need a solid option as a 4th OFer in the Upton/Grandy/Gardner set up…. man, I really wish they would have made a push for Beltran for 2 years.

    Maybe they’ll try Upton/Grandy/Garder and Hunter in 2013 lol.

  98. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Hamels, Phillies Continue Discussing Extension
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 10 at 10:09am CST]
    Lines of communication between the Phillies and the agent for Cole Hamels are open and the negotiations are reaching a critical stage, Jim Salisbury at CSNPhilly.com reports. Hamels, a free agent after the 2012 season, is expected to become a trade chip if the Phillies don’t sign him long-term.

    Not much has changed since Spring Training, Salisbury reports. The Phillies appear to be comfortable paying Hamels close to $24MM per season (the same range as Cliff Lee), but the sides haven’t agreed on the length of the potential extension. Initially the Phillies
    wanted to complete a four-year deal, but it’s likely the team is now willing to offer more years. However, John Boggs, the agent for Hamels, could target a six or seven-year contract.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

  99. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    “upon further review i would not trade hughes. we dont know about pettitte or kuroda for next season and can’t count on betances or banuelos.”

    between Pineda, Pettite, Kuroda, Banuelos, Phelps etc…..I have to think one of those guys will pitch and pitch well enough to cover the loss of Hughes if you’re getting a return like Upton.

  100. blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    ” man, I really wish they would have made a push for Beltran for 2 years”

    the offense is fine

  101. Against All Odds July 10th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    AndrewMarchand Joba thew 97 today in his first minor league rehab, according to @NewsdaySports
    about 1 minute ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    Marchand’s gun doesn’t lie…..nice!

    ————————-

    :D nice

  102. Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    the phillies are aging and injury prone and need to be built back up. but letting hamels go would be the wrong move imo. he’s the one guy who they need to sign and build around. dont overlook the value of having a home grown stud player play his whole career for the phils after leading them to their first WS win in decades.

    after the rebuild he will be the only link to thier WS win and will be a draw even while they are in the process of working through these contracts and bringing in talent.

    trade pence, trade victorino, trade utley if you can, trade howard, see if you can trade lee and halladay (they may waive thier ntc’s if they see a rebuild coming)

    but they should do whatever it takes to keep hamels.

  103. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    blake July 10th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    ” man, I really wish they would have made a push for Beltran for 2 years”

    the offense is fine

    ——————–

    Lol, I’m sensing sarcasm… it’d just be nice to have a 4th OFer who is solid on both sides of the ball. Especially if we’re thinking Gardner is a legit option in LF or CF in 2013.

  104. DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Let’s see, thus far this season you guys have traded Banny, Phelps, Mitchell, Hughes or Nova, Nunez,TEX, and not wanting to age disciminate, banished Reggie to Siberia. And it’s Only early July. It will be interesting to see which way the wind is blowing tomorrow.

  105. 86w183 July 10th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Ys Guy —-

    I think Pence would get a good return, but those other Phillies are too pricey to trade unless you are content to settle for salary relief.

    That said, I agree that you’d rather keep Hamels and trade an older starter, but I can’t see them getting much/any talent back for Lee and Halladay. Halladay, if healthy bring more because the contract is much shorter than Lee’s.

  106. Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    i was against signing lee and did a little dance when i heard he signed with philly…

    i’m still dancing….

  107. Ys Guy July 10th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    i think philly would have no problem trading halladay if he agreed. for lee they’d have to eat a big fat chung of that ‘i hate ny’ money…. howard probably wont’ get the return you want until the offseason, assuming he has a good half year. and i believe all 3 have ntc’s to pay off.

  108. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    DONNYBROOK July 10th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Let’s see, thus far this season you guys have traded Banny, Phelps, Mitchell, Hughes or Nova, Nunez,TEX, and not wanting to age disciminate, banished Reggie to Siberia.

    ———————

    The only person trying to trade Tex was me :twisted:

    And I can explain to you the reasoning again if you’d like. It isn’t just a matter of who is performing anymore… it’s a matter of what they get paid.

    Imagine if Jeter had his 09 season before he hit the FA market? That was pre-budget.

  109. Shame Spencer July 10th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    YS – The party’s over here :arrow: now.

  110. champ809 July 10th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    I’d offer a package of Brett Gardner, Brett Marshall, Corbin Joseph and J.R. Murphy for Upton and see how far I get with that In the top 3 players you’re giving them major league ready talent and Murphy although a year or two away is a real upside bat with some positional versatility.
    Gardy could leadoff and play CF with Young moving to RF and Parra in LF.

    Brett Marshall would have a #2 type ceiling in the NL with could groundball/K rates but with frontline type stuff 4seamer 94-96/2seam 92-93.

    Corbin Joseph is a guy who is just a good hitter who can square up the ball and has developing power but profiles safely as a .300 hitter low strikeouts and could be a 15-20 homer @ 2B with Hill maybe moving over to 3B.

    Or they could move Murphy back to 3B and develop him there and he’s another very good looking bat maybe not a 25-30 HR guy but could be a 20-25 HR guy down the road.

    The thing that may work for the Yanks is that Towers knows our system well enough firsthand to not need to rely on the national prospects rankings to put together a deal for Upton and would rely on his personal evaluations and opinions of players in deciding on a package.


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