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Yankees first-half Cy Young: Hiroki Kuroda

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 11, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

There are plenty of ways to go with this one.

Rafael Soriano has filled Mariano Rivera’s shoes, which is pretty much an impossible task. He’s 20-for-21 in save opportunities, has a 1.60 ERA and has thrown more innings than any other full-time reliever. But even that innings total is roughly a third of a starter’s workload, and I just find it hard to think of a relief pitcher as a Cy Young candidate. He’s probably been the Yankees best pitcher, but I’m not sure that means he’s been their first-half Cy Young.

Andy Pettitte has the lowest WHIP and ERA in the rotation, but he’s also made just nine starts. CC Sabathia is an all-star with nine wins and a 3.45 ERA, but he wasn’t really pitching like the staff ace when the Yankees went on that terrific run that pushed them into first place.

In my mind, the Cy Young of the Yankees first half is Hiroki Kuroda, who’s sprinkled a few clunkers into a season that’s been mostly outstanding. After taking the loss in the game that momentarily dumped the Yankees into last place, Kuroda has pitched to a 2.47 ERA in his past eight starts. And his ERA was well below 2.00 in that stretch before he had a rough night during that series opener in Boston on Friday.

Really, what’s made the Yankees pitching staff so good for the past two months or so has been the depth, and that’s part of what makes the first half Cy Young such an up-for-debate decision. Guys like Boone Logan, Cody Eppley and Clay Rapada have done their jobs extremely well, and both Ivan Nova and Phil Hughes have become reliable middle-of-the-rotation starters.

There is strength in numbers on this staff, not one guy clearly carrying all of the weight.

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114 Responses to “Yankees first-half Cy Young: Hiroki Kuroda”

  1. Nick in SF July 11th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Go Hiroki! Keep racking up those WINS!

  2. yankeefeminista July 11th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    Buzz: Banuelos, Campos will pitch in ’12
    1:41
    PM ET
    By Andrew Marchand | ESPNNewYork.com

    “Yankees GM Brian Cashman said that top prospect Manny Banuelos is on his throwing program, as he continues to recover from what the Yankees have described as a sore elbow. Jose Campos, the minor leaguer included in the Michael Pineda deal, hasn’t started throwing again yet. He also has a sore elbow.

    “They will both pitch this year,” Cashman said.”

    When asked if there is any long-term concern over their elbows, Cashman said, “I hope not.”

    Banuelos, 21, last pitched in a game on May 18. He is 0-2 with a 4.50 ERA in six Triple-A starts this season. Campos, who will turn 20 this month, is 3-0 with a 4.01 ERA in five starts. Campos has been out since the end of April.”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....gain-in-12
    ___
    Not that much of an update but at least they still purportedly exist.

  3. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Can we get an update like that re: Gardner?

    I heard he was taking some swings.. doing some light throwing.. but nothing else. No time table.

  4. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    saw gardy out til 7/27.

  5. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    When asked if there is any long-term concern over their elbows, Cashman said, “I hope not.”

    That isn’t really the right response to asking about concern existing. How do you not know if concern exists?

  6. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I’m thinking out loud,
    Is that allowed?

    Melky’s HR was irrelevant.
    Braun knocked in the game winning run in a rout.

    Cain’s almost perfect 2 innings puts him ahead of Melky.
    —————

    Braun went 2-3 and scored 1 run.

    Melky went 2-3 and scored 2 runs.

    It’s really that simple. No one else had 2 hits aside from Braun and he only scored 1 run while Melky had 2.

  7. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    saw gardy out til 7/27.
    ——————–

    Do you remember where? I hadn’t seen that yet.

  8. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Sandovals triple was the big hit, it broke the game open, made it a route…

  9. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    saw it as a crawler on tv, not sure if during game or somewhere else, Shame.

  10. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    made it a route…
    ===========
    make that rout.

  11. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    Sandovals triple was the big hit, it broke the game open, made it a route…

    You asked why Melky was the MVP, you don’t have to agree but you’ve got your answer. The MVP of the allstar game is like… inconsequential. Just deal with it.

  12. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    You asked why Melky was the MVP, you don’t have to agree but you’ve got your answer.
    ======================
    No. I got your answer, doesn’t make it the right answer.
    Thanks for playing.

  13. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    No. I got your answer, doesn’t make it the right answer.
    Thanks for playing.

    Thats what MLB said when they announced him as the MVP, which is why he is the MVP.

  14. Chad Jennings July 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    I don’t think there’s been a date thrown out there about Gardner. He just started doing tee and toss over the weekend, and he’s still going to have to take full BP and get through a multi-game rehab assignment. July 27 sounds reasonable, but I don’t think I’ve heard anyone from the Yankees give such a specific return date. It would unusual if they did.

    As for Banuelos and Campos, the “I hope not” quote does seem really vague, but that’s just the way Cashman talks. His point is that right now it seems to be nothing more than routine soreness (maybe more extreme than normal, but not explained by anything medically wrong). That’s what I’ve been told about both pitchers, and we all know how cautious the Yankees are with their young pitchers.

    I think Cashman’s saying that there is nothing currently wrong with Banuelos or Campos that should be a long-term concern, but these are two young pitchers currently dealing with elbow problems. Obviously they’re not out of the woods just yet.

  15. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    I found a link mick, but it doesn’t seem like a lock: http://newyork.sbnation.com/ne.....rk-yankees

    “Gardner has suffered several setbacks in his recovery. He was expected to miss just two weeks at the time of the injury, but had to be shut down again during his first minor league assignment. His prognosis moved to just past the All-Star break, but it appears now that he be out until at least July 27, according to Cashman.”

  16. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Bud Selig said he won because he went 2 for 3 with a HR and 2 runs batted in. There you go. That is why Melky is the MVP. It is in fact the right answer for WHY he is the MVP.

  17. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Thanks for the info, Chad. You should stop by and throw your 2 cents in more often. Chad’s girls would be thrilled.

  18. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    shame…i was crawling around the bottom of my tv set, it can’t be wrong ;)

  19. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    it, not I….

  20. yankeefeminista July 11th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    “…but it appears now that he be out until at least July 27, 2013 according to Cashman.”

    More accurate?:(

  21. yankeefeminista July 11th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    * :(

  22. yankeefeminista July 11th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Shame, so would the prospect nerds. :)

  23. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Thats what MLB said when they announced him as the MVP, which is why he is the MVP.
    ===================================

    Bud Selig said he won because he went 2 for 3 with a HR and 2 runs batted in. There you go. That is why Melky is the MVP. It is in fact the right answer for WHY he is the MVP.

    ==================================================
    I didn’t think you believed everything you read or heard…

  24. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    I didn’t think you believed everything you read or heard…

    Why would Bud Selig lie about why Melky is the MVP?

  25. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Why would Bud Selig lie about why Melky is the MVP?
    ===========================
    He has never lied before?

  26. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    He has never lied before?

    Why would he lie about this? What conspiracy do you believe is the reason Melky is the MVP?

  27. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Maybe Bud wants the Yanks to pay more for Melky’s services by adding MVP to his resume.

  28. blake July 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    They should just Tommy John both Banuelos and Campos and be done with it…..probably save time in the long run…..kidding of course but half serious.

  29. mick July 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    It’s not a question of him lying since this is result oriented.
    They name him MVP then make up the reason.
    Sandoval, Braun or Cain could have been named just as easily or any combo thereof.

  30. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    In fact, they were prolly looking to get Harper in the running for MVP but he didn’t help his cause.
    HR=MVP, I get it…

  31. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Justin Verlander should be the MVP as he caused the NL to win the most.

  32. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    In any case, good pitching beat good hitting last night, as predicted somewhere here at BloHard.

  33. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    agree on Verlander…

  34. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Larussa managed to win more than Wash did…..Cain pitched more to win than Verlander did.

  35. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    In any case, good pitching beat good hitting last night, as predicted somewhere here at BloHard.

    Technically good hitting beat good pitching, or are you saying Verlander is not a good pitcher?

  36. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    larussa is a better winner than wash…agree on that.
    he knew enough to not start dickey.

  37. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    i liked the nl pitching more than the al’s going in.

  38. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    yankeefeminista July 11th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Shame, so would the prospect nerds. :)

    ——————-

    Some of that faction are one in the same!!

    Chad really should come hang out more. We’re not that bad…. all the time.

    Pete would come hang out to yell at people.

  39. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    in the 1st 4 innings when the damage was done, i liked cain, gonzalez,strasburg and kershaw over verlander, nathan,price and harrison.

  40. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    throw in dickey, hamels, kimbrell and chapman after that and yes I liked the NL pitching better.

  41. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Liking Verlander has nothing to do with a guy that has thrown 130 2.58 ERA innings in a tougher league giving up 5 runs.

  42. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    i’m saying they had a better staff and i think you know that…

  43. DONNYBROOK July 11th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Kuroda is just too inconsistent to be My Cy Young. His start against the R\Sox last weekend produced a turd. I would go with Pettitte. He was pitching increasingly well till the injury.

  44. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    So you admit that good hitting beat the ALs good pitching?

  45. Bret The Hitman July 11th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Melky is the best hitter on the planet. That’s why he won MVP. Isn’t it obvious?

    ;)

  46. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Nova is the Cy.
    He does not get enough credit for winning.

  47. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    No, the NL had better pitching and they beat the AL’s hitting.

  48. Warning Track Power July 11th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    I hope each and every KC fan that felt it was right to “boo” Cano felt
    like they received their money’s worth during the game last night.
    8-0 national league
    Any chance those same fans were second guessing themselves for treating an all-star so harshly and in return, spending all that $$ on tickets to see a blow out?

  49. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Melky is the best hitter on the planet. That’s why he won MVP. Isn’t it obvious?
    ===================================
    It’s deeper than that Bret.
    Melky is beloved by huggers and that is why he is MVP.
    Cano didn’t even shake his hand…he knew.

  50. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    No, the NL had better pitching and they beat the AL’s hitting.

    The NLs hitting beat the ALs pitching. They beat an entire staff of all-stars

  51. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    I hope each and every KC fan that felt it was right to “boo” Cano felt
    like they received their money’s worth during the game last night.
    8-0 national league
    ================
    why should they care, their team is not going to the WS.

  52. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    They beat an entire staff of all-stars
    ================
    now you are reaching, accept defeat.

  53. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    now you are reaching, accept defeat.

    Verlander is a Cy YOung and MVP and gave up 5 runs. I thought good pitching should beat good hitting?

  54. DONNYBROOK July 11th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    All you gotta do is look at how ALL those Ranger All Stars did, to figure out why the AL lost. Most embarassing AL loss I have ever seen, and the HR Derby hosted by that Donkey Berman was horrible also.

  55. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Verlander is a Cy YOung and MVP and gave up 5 runs.
    ==================================
    that was last year.

  56. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Any chance those same fans were second guessing themselves for treating an all-star so harshly and in return, spending all that $$ on tickets to see a blow out?
    ==============================
    Hey. 40-50,000 drunks can’t be wrong.

  57. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    that was last year.

    You’re saying he isn’t a good pitcher this year? He has a 2.58 ERA in the AL, 130 innings.

  58. Tyler July 11th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    I still don’t understand throwing Matt Harrison that early in the game. I know it was already over at that point but making it 8-0 instead of 5-0 didn’t help. Harrison has had a good year but you could tell he was in a much lower league then the rest of the starters there.

  59. Tyler July 11th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    The Rangers are quickly turning into the Buffalo Bills of baseball. Can’t win a big game or showcase to save their lives.

  60. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    when you go 1-2 innings in an ASG, you rely on the staff.
    look at the 8 NL pitchers I named and tell me the AL 8 were as good.

  61. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    I still don’t understand throwing Matt Harrison that early in the game. I know it was already over at that point but making it 8-0 instead of 5-0 didn’t help. Harrison has had a good year but you could tell he was in a much lower league then the rest of the starters there.

    CJ Wilson or Peavy should have been in the game over Harrison. Or even Darvish. He has the most deceptive ERA of any allstar. A 3 ERA but terrible peripherals.

  62. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    I still don’t understand throwing Matt Harrison that early in the game.
    =============================================

    Wash was looking for an excuse to give Ryan if he makes it back to the WS.

  63. Warning Track Power July 11th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Melky and his agent are asking for a multi year deal and money that is very similar to
    what the Dodgers Andre Either recently signed.
    5 yrs, $85 million.
    That is ridiculous. No chance Melky deserves that kind of money for having to date, 1/2 a very good season.
    Melky has been on 4 MLB teams in the last 4 years. Which team would take a HUGE RISK and sign the guy to that much money?

  64. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    when you go 1-2 innings in an ASG, you rely on the staff.
    look at the 8 NL pitchers I named and tell me the AL 8 were as good.

    The relative strengths of the pitching staffs is not in question. Verlander is the one that lost the game for the AL and he is undoubtedly one of the best, most acest pitchers in the game and he couldnt beat an all-star lineup.

  65. Tyler July 11th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    JF-

    I’m actually surprised he didn’t use Darvish in Harrison’s spot. He still would have had one of his players in there but he would have been a much better option. Darvish’s stuff would have translated much better against elite hitters imo.

  66. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    What Melky deserves and what Melky gets will be determined by the market.

    The only issue he’ll face is that there are multiple OFer available this off season.

  67. DONNYBROOK July 11th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    If it was me, After my starter, it would be a parade of Closers. Too many All Star SP’s have pitch count restrictions. The Closers just go in and clean house ASAP.

  68. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Verlander came out and tried to throw as hard as he could…..had no command …..fell behind everybody and got hit….he said as much post game…..said he was trying tonlight up the gun for the fans and that nobody wanted to see him throw 90 and hit the corners…..hes a good pitcher that threw instead of pitched and it cost the AL the game in the first inning…..it shouldnt matter but unfortunately it does

  69. Tyler July 11th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Warning Track Power July 11th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    Melky and his agent are asking for a multi year deal and money that is very similar to
    what the Dodgers Andre Either recently signed.
    5 yrs, $85 million.
    That is ridiculous. No chance Melky deserves that kind of money for having to date, 1/2 a very good season.
    Melky has been on 4 MLB teams in the last 4 years. Which team would take a HUGE RISK and sign the guy to that much money
    ———————————————-

    Melky had a 200 hit season last year also. He looks like he’s turned a corner and is realizing his potential. Any huge contract has some risk but I don’t think signing Melky is a HUGE risk. He’s right in the prime of his career and in 5 years should still be productive. The guy has finally dedicated himself fully and is reaping the benefits.

  70. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Verlander didn’t have it last night and the little league team you play for would have beat him.
    Hence, not good pitching beaten by decent, not great, hitting.

  71. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    The guy has finally dedicated himself fully and is reaping the benefits.
    ====================
    or maybe he is juicing.

  72. Warning Track Power July 11th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Tyler-Well said. I can’t argue with that.
    Currently the media is bashing the Yankees for giving up on Melky several years ago, but what the media fails to understand is the Yankees had no choice but to trade Melky at the time.

  73. Tyler July 11th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    The guy has finally dedicated himself fully and is reaping the benefits.
    ====================
    or maybe he is juicing.
    ———————————-

    He looks like the Melky of old minus 20 pounds. Diet pills?

  74. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    “Verlander didn’t have it last night and the little league team you play for would have beat him. Hence, not good pitching beaten by decent, not great, hitting.”

    Well you do have to give the NL credit for squaring up 100 mph fastballs…..

  75. Jerkface July 11th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Ah so whenever good hitters beat a good pitcher it is because the good pitcher ‘didn’t have it’, but the REVERSE of that isn’t true because…

  76. Tyler July 11th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    “Verlander didn’t have it last night and the little league team you play for would have beat him. Hence, not good pitching beaten by decent, not great, hitting.”

    Well you do have to give the NL credit for squaring up 100 mph fastballs…
    ——————————————-

    Lol exactly. Verlander wasn’t near hsi best but it wasn’t like he was pitching slow pitch softball. He threw a 3-2 breaking ball to somebody (forgot who) that was absolutely filthy.

  77. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    He looks like the Melky of old minus 20 pounds. Diet pills?
    ======================
    swish looks the same. funny how that works..
    yanks are not hanging their star on melky when they can’t wait to shed swish $$$.
    they will go after hunter.

  78. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Hensley will probably be the only first rounder to not sign…….still think he will its getting close to.crunch time and they really cant negotiate anymore…..its not like if they wait ril the last second the Yanks are gonna offer more money…..they cant.

  79. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    cano didn’t shake melky’s hand for fear of yankee reprisal.

    he also knows what melky’s doing.

  80. Doc Iac July 11th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    what about NL pitchers shuttin down the best hitters in baseball?

    it works both ways, u need pitchin hitting and feilding,

    speakin of fielding, fat fielder also missed the scoop at first, remindin me how lucky the yankees are to have tex

  81. Warning Track Power July 11th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Mick
    Don’t say Hunter please. I would’ve welcomed his glove and bat about 4 yrs ago, but not now.
    The guy is nothing special anymore.
    I would rather take my chances with Gardner, Swish and Chris Dickerson over the aging Hunter

  82. DONNYBROOK July 11th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    If Verlander went out there merely to entertain via the “radar gun”, Bud should call him on the carpet. That flies in the face of Bud’s “This game counts”.

  83. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Ah so whenever good hitters beat a good pitcher it is because the good pitcher ‘didn’t have it’, but the REVERSE of that isn’t true because…
    =============================
    good pitching beats good hitting…that’s why a good hitter gets a hit 30% of the time.

  84. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    “He threw a 3-2 breaking ball to somebody (forgot who) that was absolutely filthy.”

    Votto

  85. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    “speakin of fielding, fat fielder also missed the scoop at first, remindin me how lucky the yankees are to have tex”

    he’s terrible….wish we had Fielder to hit and Tex to play defense…..

  86. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Don’t say Hunter please. I would’ve welcomed his glove and bat about 4 yrs ago, but not now.
    The guy is nothing special anymore.
    ======================
    But WTP he is cheap.
    Cash is a great garage sale shopper.
    Plus we can always find a cheap platoon, if need be.

  87. DONNYBROOK July 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Hunter would be good as a 4th OF’er\DH. Nothing else.

  88. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Warning Track Power July 11th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Tyler-Well said. I can’t argue with that.
    Currently the media is bashing the Yankees for giving up on Melky several years ago, but what the media fails to understand is the Yankees had no choice but to trade Melky at the time.

    ——————

    I’m not trying to take issue with your feeling on the media coverage of Melky but I never understand when people say the ‘Yankees had no choice but to’ x, y, or z.

    The Yankees chose Brett over Melky. I understood why they did it at the time and wouldn’t fault them for it over hindsight but they had the choice and stuck with Gardner.

  89. bruceb July 11th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Pettitte, Kuroda, Nova and Hughes all deserve an honorable mention, as do Logan and Eppley from the pen, but the first-half Cy Young has to be Rafael Soriano. How many other teams in baseball could lose the greatest closer of all time and hardly bat an eyelid? I still don’t feel as confident as I would with Mo on the mound, but the guy has done an unbelievable job…so far.

  90. DONNYBROOK July 11th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Yanks wanted Vazquez and it took Melky to get him. It’s that simple.

  91. Bret The Hitman July 11th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    The most I would offer Melky is a slight cut above the Alex Gordon deal. Gordon’s 10 million AAV over 4 years was based on 1 good season. Melky is in the middle of his second good season. They’re both OF. They’re both entering their prime. 4 years, 48 million would be my top offer for the Melkman.

  92. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    I can imagine what Hal is doing with Hensley.
    You have to take the Yankee discount if you want to play here son.

  93. Bret The Hitman July 11th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Melky’s contract will likely fall somewhere between Gordon’s and Ethier’s.

  94. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Pence had an .871 OPS last year and is a .834 this year…he’s on pace for around 30 homers and 100 RBI. With an OPS+ of 123 that would be the 3rd highest on the current Yankees I believe…..now I doubt I’d trade what it would take to get him…..but a 4th outfielder he is not

  95. austinmac July 11th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    I am just back from the endodontist. I blame Blake.

    If Hensley is the only first rounder not to sign, I would ask why they drafted him. Was he the only guy who considered college? This is bad management. Heads should roll, in my opinion. You cannot fail to sign first round draft picks every three years.

  96. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    “They’re both entering their prime. 4 years, 48 million would be my top offer for the Melkman.”

    If he’d sign for that I’d sign him.

    “You have to take the Yankee discount if you want to play here son.”

    not really….the Yankees can only offer a certain amount (1.8 million I believe) or they lose their first round pick next year…..their hands are pretty much tied because of the new rules. Is going over on Hensley worth losing your first rounder next year over?

  97. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    “I am just back from the endodontist. I blame Blake.”

    brush and floss twice a day :)

  98. blake July 11th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    “If Hensley is the only first rounder not to sign, I would ask why they drafted him. ”

    there are still a couple of other ones yet to sign…..my guess is part of the reason Hensley fell as far as he did was because teams were afraid he wouldn’t sign….

  99. mick July 11th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    how can the yanks offer more than 1 year deals with the imposing budget hanging over their heads?

  100. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 11th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Yanks wanted Vazquez and it took Melky to get him. It’s that simple.

    ——————-

    You don’t actually know that. They could have perhaps included Brett instead of Melky and still got a crappy pitcher in return.

    I’m not saying I’d advocated it at the time.. and won’t hold it against the Yanks.. but saying they had no choice seems extreme. They certainly had choices. They made the ones they thought were best for the team at the time. Our role is simply to dissect it.

  101. Bret The Hitman July 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Blake,

    I have been brushing my teeth with Turmeric powder and coconut oil. It looks like I had UV treatment. They look bleach white. Your take?

  102. luis July 11th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Simple,

    Swish is gone after this season….You trade Granderson for prospects/ Cost controlled OF…You save this way 20.25 Mil…Sign Melky for 12 mil…You still have 8,25 mil to play with.

  103. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Oh, you know what.. I’m so glad this came up in the thread..

    blake – I need to pick a good toothpaste that will best assist to whiten my teeth without poisoning me. Any suggestions? There are a couple options out there, and I never know which is best..

  104. luis July 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Blake,

    Are you related to the dentist in “Little shop of Horrors”? ;)

  105. G. Love July 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Bret,

    You should do oil pulling every morning before eating with the coconut oil if you’re not already.

    The tumeric is great – I take curcumin daily as a supplement combined with reservatol. It’s potent stuff.

  106. blake July 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    “I have been brushing my teeth with Turmeric powder and coconut oil. It looks like I had UV treatment. They look bleach white. Your take?”

    don’t know of anything wrong with it….Turmeric powder is a natural way to whiten far as I know….just make sure the paste isn”t too abrasive

  107. Warning Track Power July 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Shame-Have you tried Colgate Optic White?

  108. mick July 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Find out which toothpaste Alex and Derek use:

    NEXT===>>>>

  109. blake July 11th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    “blake – I need to pick a good toothpaste that will best assist to whiten my teeth without poisoning me. Any suggestions? There are a couple options out there, and I never know which is best..”

    I like Crest Pro Health….all the whitening ones will do ok……a lot has to do with your diet though.

  110. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Marc Bertrand ?@Marc_Bertrand

    Peter Gammons referenced Jon Lester being “unhappy” in Boston when he talked to @GlobeMazz and I minutes ago on @985TheSportsHub.

  111. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Track – I actually haven’t tried anything yet, I just quit smoking not that long ago and part of it was because after too many years of hitting the objective pipe no matter how much I tend to them they look dingy… just not the Robinson Cano glow I want, ya know?

  112. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    blake July 11th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    “blake – I need to pick a good toothpaste that will best assist to whiten my teeth without poisoning me. Any suggestions? There are a couple options out there, and I never know which is best..”

    I like Crest Pro Health….all the whitening ones will do ok……a lot has to do with your diet though.

    —————

    Diet?! Oh.. no wonder I’m screwed.

  113. Shame Spencer July 11th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Taking my teef discussion to the Arod thread :D

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