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Off day notes: Chamberlain, Phelps, Aardsma

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 12, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

There is going to be actual baseball tomorrow, the real deal, with more than home field advantage on the line. The Angels are coming to Yankee Stadium for a 7:05 first pitch. It’s going to be Hiroki Kuroda vs. C.J. Wilson, and four days later, CC Sabathia is going to come off the disabled list.

Here are a few notes at the end of this All-Star break.

• The Yankees announced today that Joba Chamberlain will pitch two innings in the Gulf Coast League on Saturday. This will be the first two-inning outing of his rehab. Brian Cashman said today that there’s a good chance Chamberlain will need less than the full 30 days of rehab before he’s activated.

• The Yankees also announced that David Phelps’ option has been transferred from Double-A to Triple-A. That certainly seems to indicate that the Yankees have no plans of bring Phelps back to the big leagues right away and will keep him stretched out in the minors.

• Dr. Lewis Yocum and Dr. Christopher Ahmad have recommended that David Aardsma rest for another two weeks before resuming his throwing program.

• Brooklyn Nets Guard Joe Johnson will throw out the ceremonial first pitch prior to Friday’s game. Nets head coach Avery Johnson will join the Bleacher Creatures for the first-inning Roll Call.

• The Major League Baseball Players Association announced today that Curtis Granderson is the Yankees winner of the Heart and Hustle Award, given to active players who demonstrate a passion for the game of baseball and best embody the values, spirit, and tradition of the game. One player from each team is chosen, and an overall winner from those 30 will be announced in November. Former Yankees Melky Cabrera and Austin Jackson were chosen from the Giants and Tigers.

• It’s also been announced that Dave Robertson is the Yankees nominee for the Branch Rickey Award for humanitarian service.

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114 Responses to “Off day notes: Chamberlain, Phelps, Aardsma”

  1. The Return of Stoneburner July 12th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    blake July 12th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN

    Mike Trout on track to finish with these stat floors: .950 OPS, .340 batting average, 26 homers, 55 SB. No one has ever done that, any age

    ********

    Now THAT. . . .is generational.

  2. Against All Odds July 12th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    “Trout is a super talent but comparing himself and harper to bird and magic is the height of arrogance.”

    ———————

    I love his arrogance. I hope whatever young kid that comes out of the Yankee farm has the same attitude.

  3. Against All Odds July 12th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    blake July 12th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    “I would probably turn down Hughes for Hamels as crazy as that sounds.”

    I’d probably do it from the Yankees POV….I don’t know if the PHillies would or not…..they might could get more and more controllable guys from other teams….just depends….they want to compete next year though so that might be attractive to them. Of course for the Yankees…..they’d need to win it all to make it worth it…unless they could extend Hamels.

    —————————————

    Yes they would need to win it all since they would no longer get a pick if he leaves right?

  4. butterball July 12th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Chad….you seem to work harder on off days than on playing days. I don’t think “vacation” means what you think it means.

  5. blake July 12th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    “Yes they would need to win it all since they would no longer get a pick if he leaves right?”

    right….flags do fly forever though

  6. Against All Odds July 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    ZMAN July 12th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    I’m getting sick of hearing about Trout and Harper . When are we going to have a player like that? When are we going to have young, transcendent players?

    ——————————-

    Either tank and get high picks, trade for a prospect that is overlooked and watch him blossom. or get extremely lucky in the draft

  7. yanks 27 July 12th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    “Now THAT. . . .is generational.”

    Yes, but it doesn’t mean Montero isn’t.

    It’s like implying that CC or Cole Hamels are not elite pitchers because they don’t put up Kershaw-Velander-Felix type numbers.

    Trout is on pace for numbers that we haven’t seen from anyone of any age. Doesn’t mean those young player who are simply performing excellently and not superhuman are lesser status.

  8. Melk Man July 12th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    “trade for a prospect that is overlooked and watch him blossom.”

    Well, based on their transactions over the last couple of years, it looks like the Yankees are going to go that route LOL

  9. jmills July 12th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Hi guys! Go Jays Go :)

  10. Against All Odds July 12th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    Melk Man July 12th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    “trade for a prospect that is overlooked and watch him blossom.”

    Well, based on their transactions over the last couple of years, it looks like the Yankees are going to go that route LOL

    ————–

    :) lol

  11. yanks 27 July 12th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    K. Levine-Flandrup
    ?@YankeesDraft

    1st round ?#mlbdraft? pick Ty Hensley has reached an agreement and will sign with the ?#Yankees?.

  12. blake July 12th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    Yay!

  13. luis July 12th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Good evening,

    YES!!! for Hensley!!

  14. jmills July 12th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Phil,…….give it up :)

  15. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    blake July 12th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
    “So Hughes is the 6th?”

    No….Hughes isn’t a prospect….he’s a guy that will be a FA after next year and who isn’t as good as Cole Hamels…..I like Phil a lot and am glad he’s finally showing promise….but I don’t think they can sign him and I’d consider doing that to go for it this year….if he was controlled longer then it would be different.
    ============

    Okay I thought you meant of the starters. Either way I wouldn’t. And wouldn’t Cole cost more than Hughes?

  16. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    yanks 27 July 12th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
    K. Levine-Flandrup
    ?@YankeesDraft

    1st round ?#mlbdraft? pick Ty Hensley has reached an agreement and will sign with the ?#Yankees?.
    ——————————–

    All right. Now for whom can we trade him?

  17. blake July 12th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Phils readying offer for Cole Hamels
    Updated: July 12, 2012, 10:51 PM ET
    By Jayson Stark | ESPN.com

    The Philadelphia Phillies are preparing a substantial offer to their soon-to-be-free-agent left-hander Cole Hamels in an attempt to determine whether they can sign him to an extension in the next two weeks, sources told ESPN.com on Thursday.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_.....ole-hamels

    They’ll probably have to get close to CC money to get him to sign now I’d imagine…..I still think they should trade him and then just offer him that same money this winter.

  18. blake July 12th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    “And wouldn’t Cole cost more than Hughes?”

    sure….good chance they can’t sign either without bending their budget

  19. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    I added Cole’s numbers vs AL teams for his career.

    137.2ip 141h 67r 64er 24hr 32bb 128k 4.20era 1.26whip

  20. blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    Jim Callis ?@jimcallisBA

    More on ?#Yankees? & Hensley: Agreed to $1.6 mil bonus before MRI showed abnormalities in shoulder. More detail in blog post soon. ?#mlbdraft?

    4m Jim Callis Jim Callis ?@jimcallisBA

    ?#Yankees? sign 1st-rder Ty Hensley for $1.6 mil (pick value=$1.2 mil). Oklahoma HS RHP has 92-97 fastball, nasty curve. ?#mlbdraft

    Abnormalities in his shoulder? ok……

  21. blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Ty Hensley ?@TyHensley17

    As the captain says… “Everything looks good in pinstripes!!!!”

  22. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    blake July 12th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
    “And wouldn’t Cole cost more than Hughes?”

    sure….good chance they can’t sign either without bending their budget
    ————–

    So then why trade then?

  23. jacksquat July 12th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
    I added Cole’s numbers vs AL teams for his career.

    137.2ip 141h 67r 64er 24hr 32bb 128k 4.20era 1.26whip

    —–

    Yeah, I’ve posted these before. But people seem to want to ignore it, even though that’s about 2/3 of a season.

    I don’t want him given what he would cost, for how long, and he could end up like that.

  24. blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    “So then why trade then?”

    to win the world series…..sounds like the Phillies might offer crazy money to extend him anyway.

  25. blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    small sample with Hamels….he’s really good….and would be really good in the AL as well

  26. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    I added Cole’s numbers vs AL teams for his career.

    137.2ip 141h 67r 64er 24hr 32bb 128k 4.20era 1.26whip

    And his numbers in AL parks

    47ip 59h 33r 32er 8hr 11bb 45k 6.13era 1.49whip

  27. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    As long as the only abormalities they found in his shoulder was Nolan Ryan’s fastball, Sandy Koufax’s curve and a new growth thought to be the start of Ron Guidry’s slider, no issue.

  28. blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    you’re probably going to find “abnormalities” in almost any pitchers shoulder….what matters is if they are problematic or if they are causing symptoms…..hopefully it’s just benign stuff from being a pitcher

  29. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
    “So then why trade then?”

    to win the world series…..sounds like the Phillies might offer crazy money to extend him anyway.
    —————

    They can win just as well with Hughes. The only advantage Hamels has is he’s a lefty. But it makes no sense. Especially when you’ll still have Hughes for next year. And Hamels probably won’t sign. And would demand more money. If CC, Kuroda, and Pettitte are not good enough to win a series. And then Hughes who has won in the playoffs. Plus Nova who can’t seem to lose even if he tries. Then I don’t know how Hamels can help.

  30. Nick in SF July 12th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    I’m trying to get caught up here. What we’re reading between the lines is that the Yankees refused to sign Hensley until they could find abnormalities in his shoulder??? What the — ??????

    What are they after, a pitcher or a rehab buddy for Pineda?????

    I was about to hunker down for some quality blog time, but now I just feel like walking back out into that crisp, foggy air for a stroll and some pho.

    :mad: :mad: :mad:

  31. blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    “Then I don’t know how Hamels can help.”

    because Hamels is better than Hughes is…….

  32. blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    night all….glad they got Hensley signed….hope his shoulder is good to go….

  33. jmills July 12th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    GB7! Hi ,..””Koufax, Stieb, Gibson, WhAt haVe you. Marichal !………………..of course! And,……Seaver too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,………….Carlton.

  34. ron July 12th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    The problem with hughes is,you can’t trust him in the postseason,compared to a more established,better pitcher.
    Hughes is ok as a 4th,or 5th starter.

    He has to get back to throwing his changeup a lot more than he has been.
    15-20 a game imo.

    Also,i would like to see some downward movement on his fb,so he doesn’t have to try to strike everybody out.

    The thing that bothers me with hughes is,he is about to become great,if he can just figure a few more things out,and get back to mixing it up more.
    There are times where he makes everybody he faces look foolish.

  35. UnKnown July 12th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    Pumped that TY signed. He is going to be pretty good, I think.

  36. luis July 12th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Igotid,

    Nova in the last 28 days has pitched to 2.20 ERA and 1.28 WHIP, has k’d almost 1 batter per inning (31 in 32 Innings pitched). Still his record was 2-1 in 5 starts. Nova is the best pitcher in that rotation not named CC or Pettitte.

  37. austinmac July 12th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Am I understanding correctly the team was ultimately okay with the MRI and signed him?

  38. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    blake July 12th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
    “Then I don’t know how Hamels can help.”

    because Hamels is better than Hughes is…….
    —————–

    Possibly. But Hughes is 3 years younger and will be cheaper than Hamels. And is AL ready.

  39. ron July 12th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Nova is the type of pitcher that you can send in game 1 of the ws,and not worry about it.
    Not the greatest stuff,but he just wins,and is a bulldog.

  40. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    luis July 12th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
    Igotid,

    Nova in the last 28 days has pitched to 2.20 ERA and 1.28 WHIP, has k’d almost 1 batter per inning (31 in 32 Innings pitched). Still his record was 2-1 in 5 starts. Nova is the best pitcher in that rotation not named CC or Pettitte.
    ——————————————————

    Yea I don’t have a problem with how Nova has performed. Exceeded a lot of expectations. CC hasn’t been CC this year though.

  41. luis July 12th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Shoulder? I think we have to wait for either Trader or Doc Joe to explain this…I would think that is probably nothing serious

  42. luis July 12th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Agreed on CC, but he is a second half pitcher, hopefully he will be in beast mode when he comes out of the DL.

  43. austinmac July 12th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    I have read at RAB that they believe he signed for below slot at $1.2M due to the MRI. That potentially leave some money for the high upside high picks.

  44. luis July 12th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    Ron,

    I agree with your post…I would say though that he does have a nasty slider and a nasty CB…His FB is not bad either…He does have front line stuff

  45. ron July 12th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Via Jon Heyman, the Rockies were set to take Ty Hensley with the tenth overall pick Monday night, but a chain-of-events landed the right-hander in the Yankees’ lap at the 30th overall pick. The Pirates were set to take prep OF David Dahl with the eighth overall pick, but they instead took Stanford RHP Mark Appel when he slid down the board. When Dahl was still available for Colorado at ten, they went with him over Hensley.

    I also remember hearing somewhere — I forget if it was a podcast or the MLB.com broadcast or something else entirely — that the Rays targeted Hensley for the 25th overall pick but went with Clemson 3B Richie Shaffer when he was surprisingly still on the board. Either way, I’m glad the Yankees were able to nab a big power arm like Hensley and based on his recent comments, it sure sounds like he’s thrilled as well.

  46. luis July 12th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Mac,

    I could have misread it, but I think he signed for 1,6 before the MRI showed the abnormalities.

  47. UnKnown July 12th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....bled=false

    HR Debate. Never seems to end.

  48. G. Love July 12th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Clearly, finding young pitchers with shoulder problems is the new Moneyball. We should also try to exploit the market for hitters who don’t ever swing.

  49. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    ron July 12th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
    The problem with hughes is,you can’t trust him in the postseason,compared to a more established,better pitcher.
    Hughes is ok as a 4th,or 5th starter.

    He has to get back to throwing his changeup a lot more than he has been.
    15-20 a game imo.

    Also,i would like to see some downward movement on his fb,so he doesn’t have to try to strike everybody out.

    The thing that bothers me with hughes is,he is about to become great,if he can just figure a few more things out,and get back to mixing it up more.
    There are times where he makes everybody he faces look foolish.
    ————–

    he’s done well. Not perfect. But he’s won in the playoffs. He’s done well in the ALDS. The games against Texas. He didn’t do too well. But Pettitte was the only one who did well against them in that series.

  50. Bronx Jeers July 12th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    No worries. Shoulder abnormalities in Yankee-speak means flawless.

  51. austinmac July 12th, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Luis,

    As I recall, he went for a physical to Tampa at least a week ago. At that time I assumed a deal was done. I believe it was then he had an MRI, and the Yankees backed off their offer. They then, I think, agreed to a lower figure. I just can’t believe they signed him before the MRI–not in this Michael Pineda world.

  52. igotid88 July 12th, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    Weren’t a lot of our playoff wins because of the HR?

  53. austinmac July 12th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    If my beliefs are true, it does leave more money for other signings. Someone posted the other day Jackson was still in discussions. The wait could be due to the Hensley issue.

    I will quit now as I am feeling like a college football recruiting oddball.

  54. luis July 12th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    11:38pm: Via Callis, Hensley signed for a below-slot $1.2M. Chase Parham has some more on the MRI and shoulder issue, saying the right-hander was (and remains) completely asymptomatic and without pain. The Yankees have $615,910 of draft pool money — plus the $100k exemption for players drafted after the tenth round — left to spend before Friday’s deadline.

    Mac,

    you were right. Still, shoulder yikes!!

  55. Giuseppe Franco July 12th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    GF, After a tough first year on here, we get along pretty well. It’s like it was was Randy. I wanted to alternate strangle you and punching you two guys in the nose. While Iwas always the perfect gentleman.

    ————

    Yeah, we did indeed bump heads on occasion a few years back but we both have been known to be a little abrasive at times – especially when it becomes necessary to call out those who spew nothing but idiocy within these walls.

    It’s all good. The past is the past.

  56. Nick in SF July 12th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    This is what happens when Dr. Andrews gets the tie-breaking vote in the Yankee war room.

  57. luis July 12th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    Good night all

  58. austinmac July 12th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    I think Hensley made the right choice. The Yankees will care for him better than a college program. Take the money.

  59. G. Love July 12th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Dr. Andrews gotta eat.

  60. Giuseppe Franco July 13th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    I have to admit hearing about some shoulder abnormalities in the kid’s MRI does give me a feeling of uneasiness and concern.

    Shoulder issues, no matter how minor at this point, does appear to be a bit of a red flag when he hasn’t thrown a single pitch in pro ball yet.

  61. austinmac July 13th, 2012 at 12:23 am

    With Upton’s reported shoulder issues and the Yankees now seem assured to sign him.

  62. luis July 13th, 2012 at 12:29 am

    Before I go to bed….About Hensley, maybe that’s why he fell to our laps as the 30th pick. I wonder if other teams were aware of his potential shoulder red flag?

  63. igotid88 July 13th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    Hope we see more of this

    http://www.abrahamesparza.com/.....havez.html

  64. jacksquat July 13th, 2012 at 1:13 am

    There probably is not any pitcher without some shoulder/elbow “abnormalities”.

    If he is truly completely pain free then it may mean nothing.

  65. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2012 at 1:20 am

    Hensley’s deal is no different that when Texas offered RA Dickey $800,000+ and changed it to $75,000 after the medicals discovered that he was born without a UCL in his right arm.

  66. Against All Odds July 13th, 2012 at 1:25 am

    The only advantage Hamels has is he’s a lefty.

    ———————

    And he’s better than Hughes

  67. Against All Odds July 13th, 2012 at 1:29 am

    But as I said before I probably still wouldn’t move him for Hamels.

  68. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Hamels will cost more for the remainder of the year than Hughes will cost NY next year. He’s not worth three months of that. Just like Hughes, he’s no guarantee of anything in the post season.

  69. Jerkface July 13th, 2012 at 1:35 am

    Yea this is exactly like when RA Dickey lost 95% of his signing bonus!

  70. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2012 at 1:40 am

    Go start one of your petty little arguments/discussions with somebody else. I’m not in the mood. Maybe your little boy toy is in the mood.

  71. Jerkface July 13th, 2012 at 1:42 am

    Homophobia, great quality!

  72. Jerkface July 13th, 2012 at 1:45 am

    I have to admit hearing about some shoulder abnormalities in the kid’s MRI does give me a feeling of uneasiness and concern.

    Well we already used the pick on drafting him, so might as well sign him and roll the dice. Either he implodes and we can say ‘Duh shoulder’ or maybe its merely an abnormality and he pans out.

  73. igotid88 July 13th, 2012 at 3:25 am

    Against All Odds July 13th, 2012 at 1:25 am
    The only advantage Hamels has is he’s a lefty.

    ———————

    And he’s better than Hughes
    ——————-

    Is he AL East better?

  74. Crawdaddy July 13th, 2012 at 6:18 am

    Regarding Hensley’s shoulder. It isn’t injured and it was probably something he was born with that is structurally different than most shoulders. It might not even be a problem for him except the physical structure of his shoulder is different in some way from the norm.

    I’m pretty sure the Yankees have sent his MRI to other shoulder experts like Andrews to look at it. And based on them still signing him, those other medical experts must have given the Yankees enough confidence to sign him anyway.

    In the last five years, the Yankees have not signed other draftees with shoulder issues like Bittle and Stafford. Furthermore, after what happened with Pineda and the heat they took over his injury, I don’t think the Yankees would invest 1.2M in an injured pitcher when they can simply walk away and get another pick next year.

  75. blake July 13th, 2012 at 6:44 am

    “Is he AL East better?”

    Yes….hes better anywhere they pitch.

  76. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 6:55 am

    I was glad to hear the other day that Banuelos has begun a throwing program.

    Also that neither he nor Campos has any structural type issues goin’ on in their elbows.

    Fingers crossed.

  77. blake July 13th, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Morning MTU.

  78. blake July 13th, 2012 at 7:17 am

    So they go Hensley for a little under slot…..do they have enough left to get Vincent Jackson to sign?

  79. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 7:25 am

    Howdy Blake.

    The Yankees have 4 guys in the top 50.

    Almost 10% of the total.

    Not bad for a team that supposedly just buys everything in sight.

    ;)

  80. Against All Odds July 13th, 2012 at 7:32 am

    Against All Odds July 13th, 2012 at 1:25 am The only advantage Hamels has is he’s a lefty.

    ———————

    And he’s better than Hughes ——————-

    Is he AL East better?

    ——————

    He’s better period.

  81. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 7:33 am

    I think Upton is likely to get moved.

    The D-backs really want a ss or a 3b.

    We do not have one to offer.

    :(

  82. blake July 13th, 2012 at 7:33 am

    MTU,

    that little group of position players the Yanks have at Tampa is exciting and fun to dream about….I just wish they were in AA or AAA…..they all 3 could be top 20 guys next year if they are still performing at Trenton.

    The Rangers and probably Angels too are going to do something at the deadline….one or both of those teams will add a starter…..will the Yanks do anything to keep up or sit tight?

    Two clubs that want big league pitching help and have good outfielders in the upper levels of the minors are KC and the Cardinals…..is there a match there? Would Cashman be bold and do a “non-Yankee” move to improve weaknesses and strengthen the club for the future? What does it all mean? Why are we here? Why can’t Russell Martin hit? Age old questions……..

  83. blake July 13th, 2012 at 7:37 am

    Reports are the Towers wants a SS, and 3B, or a front-line pitcher……The Yanks might would have to involve a 3rd team to meet their demands

  84. RadioKev July 13th, 2012 at 7:38 am

    The Rangers and probably Angels too are going to do something at the deadline….one or both of those teams will add a starter…..will the Yanks do anything to keep up or sit tight?
    ————-

    I don’t like the “keep up” idea. When your team is in 1st place, everyone keeps up with you. It’s a totally media driven idea that can lead to bad decisions. Something the Red Sox do.

  85. blake July 13th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    “I don’t like the “keep up” idea. When your team is in 1st place, everyone keeps up with you. It’s a totally media driven idea that can lead to bad decisions.”

    do you think the Yankees are better than the Rangers and Angels? Significantly so? The Angels have been the best team in baseball since Trout was called up and the Rangers have close to the same record as the Yankees do……I’m not talking about keeping up in the AL east….I’m talking about the odds of winning a world series.

  86. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    Blake-

    Another 3-way like the Grandy trade ?

    Who has good, near ML-ready 3b prospects ?

  87. blake July 13th, 2012 at 7:53 am

    I don’t want the Yankees to make a bad decision just to go for it this year because I don’t think they have to do that….I think they could win the WS as is….

    however if they could make a deal that would improve their present without hurting their future then I’d be in favor of that……or if they could make a deal that didn’t effect their present much and improved their future then I’d be in favor of that as well……

  88. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 7:54 am

    Blake-

    Change is coming whether that’s now, or in the OS.

    ;)

  89. blake July 13th, 2012 at 7:54 am

    “Who has good, near ML-ready 3b prospects ?”

    probably nobody willing to trade them….3B is about as hard to find as SS is. It’s really hard to say….I think the Yankees could maybe make a match but a lot just depends on how Towers evaluates players…..it’s hard to say.

  90. sunny615 July 13th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    Just read about Ty Hensley’s signing and his “abnormalities” in his shoulder which is what the hold out was all about – and he signed for $1.2 M instead of the recommended $1.6 M… but I’ve been searching all over the place trying to find out what “abnormalities” actually means… is it potential injuries related? malformations? Does anyone actually have an idea or found an article that has more info?

  91. blake July 13th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    For Example….and I’m just using these as examples….has nothing to do with trying to trade a player or run anybody out of town etc….I love Phil Hughes

    Hughes for Cole Hamels: I think would help our present a good bit and not drastically harm the future because Hughes likely will be gone after next year anyway.

    Hughes for Oscar Taveras or Wil Myers or Shelby Millier: IMO doesn’t effect our present a great deal because I think you can either slot Phelps in the rotation or make another deal for a Dempster or somebody that could pitch now…..and perhaps it would greatly impact the future of the club if any of those guys became stars.

    Of course those deals may not work with the other teams….but those are the kind of things I was talking about…..those things may not be out there but Cash should be looking

  92. blake July 13th, 2012 at 8:01 am

    Abnormalities could really mean anything…..surgeons have been quoted as saying that if you MRI pretty much any pitchers shoulder there is a great chance of seeing something abnormal because throwing a baseball over hand isn’t a natural movement and the joint takes on changes as a result of that……hopefully it’s just a benign thing like that…..

  93. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Blake-

    I’m not as concerned with this season as you are.

    Of course I greedy and would love to see us upgrade our OF right now.

    And I’d love to upgrade our C as well.

    I’m afraid it will have to wait till the OS though.

    If Upton is available and we have the pieces we should go for it.

  94. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Blake-

    I’m not as sure as you are that Hughes will be gone.

    To me it depends on how he is performing.

    If he’s good I can see the Yankees paying the money to keep him.

  95. Against All Odds July 13th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    When was the last time the Yankees extended their own pitcher? Remember they never extended Wang and he had more success than Hughes during his time with the Yankees.

  96. blake July 13th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    “I’m not as concerned with this season as you are.”

    my thinking is that next year Jeter will be a year older….Alex will be a year older….Tex will be a year older….Swisher will probably be gone…..etc…..until that next crop of hitters comes along this year might be the best chance they have at a title for a few years unless they make somewhat of an overhaul

    “I’m not as sure as you are that Hughes will be gone.”

    It’s really tough to gauge and is a tough spot…..he has probably built some trade value back up with his first half performance….but if he has a good 2nd half and good 2013 then he could likely command a contract that would be difficult for the Yankees to fit under the cap…..so it’s a tough call with him…..I fully expect the Yankees to do nothing and wait until Dec. 2013 and panic.

  97. Against All Odds July 13th, 2012 at 8:13 am

    For those that haven’t read up on Hensely yet.

    ime that Hensley has taken to decide between Ole Miss and a professional baseball career with the New York Yankees that the right-hander had been holding out for more money than the $1.6 million dollar assigned value set for the 30th overall pick. To the contrary, Hensley and the Yankees had agreed to terms immediately following the draft for 1.6 million.

    “When I would throw my bullpens I would try to see if I could feel anything at all in my shoulder. I thought I would go crazy. I went through all the emotions you can go through sadness, anger, frustration you name it. The toughest thing still is that we don’t know really what my situation is other than the fact my shoulder is built differently than most of the people out there. I have an abnormality that other people don’t have, but heck that may be part of the reason I throw the way I do. We don’t know what it means for the future, but it certainly is a non factor right now.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/olemis.....frm_woah=1

  98. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Blake-

    IMO they are good enough to win it all just as they sit.

    However, bring greedy, I can always accept improvement.

    The OF will have to be re-jiggered by next season.

    If Upton is out there now you have to try.

    I hope Martin has a huge 2nd half but I kinda doubt he will.

    In that case, the C position will need to be ugraded in the OS as well.

    I’m hoping that Romine can stay healthy and play a part next year.

    :)

  99. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:26 am

    edit: “being greedy”

  100. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    The post -season is a crapshoot.

    We all know that.

    The Yankees are going to make the Playoffs.

    They have the Pitching to compete with just about anyone in the PS.

    Will the O hit a ton of HR’s in the PS against a continual stream of top flight pitching ?

    That is where I have questions ?

    If the team is hot going in I’d say our chances are really, really good.

  101. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    A rotation of CC, AP, Kuroda, and Nova definitely gives me the warm fuzzies when it comes to the PS.

    Few would be better. That group can shut down just about anyone.

    You’d be hard-pressed to find a better group of competitors.

    :)

  102. Yankee Trader July 13th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Good morning.

    Thanks for the info on Hensley.

    Phillies readying a “big” offer to extend Hamels

    Cashman plans nothing at trading deadline. Doesn’t know if he’ll have enough info on Gardner to tell if he’ll be OK by the end of July, so he’s rolling the dice, that Ibanez, Jones, and defensive replacement Wise can continue to do the job if Gardner cannot.

    No J. Upton :(
    Maybe a minor deal Brian? Juan Pierre! LOL

  103. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    As soon as YT appears it’s time for me to leave.

    Gotta walk the pups.

    :)

  104. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:40 am

    And a BP with Soriano, D-Rob, Joba, etc. is pretty good too.

    Like real good.

    :)

  105. MTU July 13th, 2012 at 8:43 am

    The Halos could be real tough.

    Pitching plus a combo of Trumbo, Trout, and Pujols.

    Texas’s O is better but their Pitching is lacking at the moment.

    I sure hope they do not add a Hamels, or Greinke.

    Good night if they do.

  106. Yankee Trader July 13th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Will the O hit a ton of HR’s in the PS against a continual stream of top flight pitching ?

    That is where I have questions ?

    If the team is hot going in I’d say our chances are really, really good.
    ——————————

    If they play a team in the playoffs that ranks #1 in scoring with RISP vs their #1 in homers, who will win most of the time?

    The Yankees play the Red Sox the last 3 games of the season in NY I believe, so those 4+hour games before the playoffs will not be fun.

    Good morning MTU

  107. Yankee Trader July 13th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Thanks MTU!!! Why don’t you just take a hike! You’re leaving because of me. Whaaaaaaaaaa!

  108. blake July 13th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    MTU,

    I think the Yankees could win the whole thing as well….but like I said I’d be interested in any moves that could improve our chances this year without sacrificing the future or any moves that could improve our future without sacrificing the present…….

  109. Shame Spencer July 13th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    If they play a team in the playoffs that ranks #1 in scoring with RISP vs their #1 in homers, who will win most of the time?

    ————–

    Who’s pitching? :D

  110. Yankee Trader July 13th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Hi Shame-

    Don’t know if the Angels are near the top with RISP, but let’s say it’s Weaver vs CC. Which way will oddsmaker Nick go? Oh, and in YS

  111. austinmac July 13th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    While the playoffs involve some luck, I reject the idea it is a crap shoot. That idea became popular after, and not during, the times the team frequently won. Never, did we Yankee fans suggest they were lucky.

    Better teams are more likely to win. The Yankees should try, reasonably, to do improve. Any other plan is silly.

  112. Yankee Trader July 13th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    While waiting for Chad, heres an article you’ll enjoy:

    Yankees, Unlike Phillies, Still Winning with Aging Core: A Fan’s Take

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/y.....1;mlb.html

  113. Yankee Trader July 13th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    See you on the other side. New Post————>

  114. sunny615 July 13th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Well the closest thing I could find on it was a Chase Parham article but it still describe what the actual issue was other than the shoulder being “built differently” than everyone elses… So I still have no idea what the abnormality is and if it’s something that the Yankees should be concerned about…?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/olemis.....frm_woah=1


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