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Postgame notes: “The rest was better for my arm than my groin”

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Despite having not pitched in nearly three weeks and not making a single rehab start during his stint on the DL, CC Sabathia returned to the mound tonight as if he had never left.

“Life to his fastball, changeup was good, slider was good, command was good,” Joe Girardi said after the Yankees’ 6-1 win over the Blue Jays on Tuesday. “I think whenever you have a layoff, there’s a concern. He only threw two simulated innings and a couple of bullpens, but I was really impressed.”

Sabathia was arguably as sharp as he has been all season, getting through six-plus innings, allowing only four hits and one walk while striking out six. He was pulled at 87 pitches after allowing a leadoff single in the seventh to Adam Lind.

“Larry (Rothschild) and I talked about 85 pitches – maybe a few more depending on where we were at in the game – and that’s what he gave us,” Girardi said. “We’ll bump it up the next time, and then there won’t be any limitations on him.”

CC seemed to have great command, and didn’t really get himself into much trouble all night. After missing time, we all knew how anxious he was to get back on the mound, but he managed his emotions well.

“I just tried to make sure that I calmed myself down and threw strikes,” Sabathia said. “I didn’t want to get into long counts and have to overwork myself early.”

• Not only was CC able to spot his fastball all night, but he was very encouraged with his changeup. That can be a key out-pitch for him when it’s working. “I think my changeup was a lot better than it has been all year, and probably last year, too,” he said. “When I’m able to command that, my fastball feels pretty good.”

• Sabathia reiterated that his short break may work out for the best in the long run. “We’ll see. Like I said, I felt really good today,” he said. “The rest was better for my arm than my groin.”

• The other hero from tonight’s game was Andruw Jones. As the Brett Gardner situation continues to develop and signs continue to point to him being out for awhile longer, his replacements (Jones and Raul Ibanez) have come up with back-to-back huge games. Ibanez had the clutch grand slam last night, and Jones hit an early three-run homer tonight in the second that turned out to be the big blow. “It’s really good when you can platoon your left fielders in a sense and get a ton of production from them, and it’s not just singles – they’re home runs and RBI – it really helps,” Girardi said. “Andruw has been a complete player. He still plays good defense out there, and we’re very pleased with what he’s done.”

• Girardi didn’t have an update on Gardner, other than saying that there are three doctors who are going to review today’s MRI and make a determination. He was asked if he thinks he has enough in-house to make up for Gardner’s absence if he can’t return this season. “I feel comfortable,” he said. “You’re going to see (Dewayne) Wise play some, and we’ll give Curtis (Granderson) a day here or there… D-Wise had a tremendous week for us a couple of weeks ago, and he plays an outstanding centerfield, so we’re just going to have to do it.”

• Jones was asked about whether he thinks the Yankees may look to make a move. “I’m not Brian Cashman,” he said. “This is a business, and if he feels like he needs to go out there and get someone to help the team, that’s his decision. All we have to do is keep working hard, and when they call our name to go out and play, get the job done.”

• Girardi acknowledged the possibility that, if Gardner’s elbow is never completely right this season, he could still eventually return in a limited role. The main thing that aggravates the injury is swinging a bat, but Gardner could contribute in other aspects of the game. “You could in September, sure,” Girardi said when asked if Gardner could be used as a pinch-runner. “You could do that, and maybe use him for defense.”

• Jones’ home run tonight was his 12th of the season, and he is now averaging a long ball nearly once in every 11 at-bats. Since June 22, he is hitting .379 (11-for-29) with two doubles and five homers vs. left-handed pitching. “It feels good,” Jone said of his swing. “Everybody when you might go one game not feeling good at the plate, you’re looking forward to that next game and getting another four at-bat game. Since we played in Boston, I’ve been feeling pretty comfortable at the plate.”

• Jones was also asked if he prefers playing in the field, as opposed to DHing. “If my legs are feeling healthy, then yeah, I would rather (play the outfield),” he said. “I can help Curtis  position himself out there, and I feel more in the game… But I really don’t mind the DH.”

• The Yankees tacked on three more runs in the seventh thanks to some production from the bottom of the order. Their 7-9 hitters tonight (Jones, Jayson Nix and Chris Stewart) combined to go 5-for-11 with three runs scored, two doubles, one homer and four RBI. Girardi was asked about the contributions that he’s received from his bench. “I think I have a really good bench that can be extremely productive for us,” he said. “You can rest a guy here or there, and try to keep guys healthy.”

• Robinson Cano extended his hitting streak to a career-high 20 games tonight. As I tweeted earlier, without getting too far ahead of myself, I am genuinely curious how long he can keep this up. Cano is such a complete hitter whose hits come in all forms, and he’s exactly the type of player who can make a streak like this interesting.

• It’s been a fun couple of days running the blog while Chad has been off. Brian Heyman will be here tomorrow, with Chad returning on Thursday, but I’ll be back next week. Goodnight everyone!

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98 Responses to “Postgame notes: “The rest was better for my arm than my groin””

  1. Against All Odds July 17th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    Funny how all the stuff about Lin having a big head or rubbing teammates the wrong way didn’t come out until it became clear he wasn’t coming back.

  2. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    Ellie,

    I suppose the world will find out pretty soon whether NYs are really this good or not when they play Texas. The East as pretty damned good until the Yanks started slapping them around. They seemed to get things together playing the NL teams.

  3. Uncle Ellsworth July 17th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Gb i agree. Yanks gonna mess with Texas.

  4. Uncle Ellsworth July 17th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    AAO. hes better off in houston. knicks are still amess

  5. luis July 18th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Uncle,

    Thanks for your comment…I do think your question was very pertinent, interesting and helps spark some baseball debate.

  6. luis July 18th, 2012 at 12:03 am

    Good night all

  7. Barry July 18th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    Pat M

    From the previous thread. Why will the ;ball find Jones and Ibanez in post season when it has not in over 100 games? Wise will be their caddy. This generations’ Gino Cimoli.

  8. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:08 am

    there’s a difference between thinking a guy doesnt fit and making up reasons for why he left or why the knicks are better off without him.

    i like lin alot he’s becoming a good player. he’s got alot of downside, too.

    the knicks can’t afford him for one thing, and he doesnt fit for another.

    i like him alot, i will root for him, but that doesnt mean the knicks should have locked themselves into this exact team for the next 3 seasons. they can and frankly have to do better with that money.

  9. j9d July 18th, 2012 at 12:10 am

    Ys Guy July 17th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
    j9d
    i dont know who you are but i’ve been up on this team for a long time and i predicted a 100 win season this year.
    if you follow this blog at all, you know that i’m a big supporter of brian cashman and the decisions he’s made to create this team.

    i’m enjoying this team immensly.

    just because i think chad doesnt give me anything i can get anywhere else and has no real opinions and just because i dont like michael kay doesnt mean i’m not a big fan of my team and this blog in general (although the last couple of years it has taken a very negative tone)

    i will never tone down my opinions, i’ve been here since a few weeks before arod opted out and though i disagree with many people often i welcome them.

    i believe randy and i have our consecutive disagreement streak intact stretching over several years, yet i love reading the guy’s opinions no matter how dim-witted i think they are(and how dim-witted he thinks mine are!) (just kidding bud!)

    im part of this blog and i’m going nowhere, deal with it.

    —————————————————————————-

    Okay well I was trying to save you from looking like a complete loon but you have trumped that effort. I don’t care how long you have been on this blog. You sound like a complete idiot railing against Chad and pining for Pete’s antics. You, my friend, have some big time issues. I should have known to trust serious posters who were refuting your crazy posts. Was trying to be inclusive. I was wrong. Lesson learned.

  10. Pat M. July 18th, 2012 at 12:10 am

    Barry, I just think there will be a play that Ibanez more than Jones will fail to make and it’ll be a glowing point of a game…….I also think these guys are running on empty soon as they were never expected to be putting this much time and wear on those very well seasoned legs…….August will take it’s toll and it’ll be a weak spot come October just waiting to be exposed…..Just an opinion of course

  11. I Am Winning July 18th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Who is reporting that Gardner had a set back? Chad has mentioned it half a dozen times, but I can’t seem to locate any article indicating so.

  12. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:19 am

    pete had passion…

    chad has….a job.

  13. rm July 18th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    I Am Winning July 18th, 2012 at 12:11 am
    Who is reporting that Gardner had a set back? Chad has mentioned it half a dozen times, but I can’t seem to locate any article indicating so.

    —————-
    Here;s a report about it from the Daily news:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....-1.1115920

  14. Barry July 18th, 2012 at 12:23 am

    Pat M

    Well, it’s not a bad opinion. The caddy should cover the problem prior to its surfacing. Both Jones and Ibanez have been just fine. My hope and opinion, they get it done.

  15. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:26 am

    maybe they will fade, but they are supposed to be backups

    raul jones leads this team in hr’s and rbi’s right now.

  16. LGY July 18th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    Ys Guy July 17th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
    totally disagree about lin, he’s not worth that contract especially for a team that has no cap flexability.

    he sucks on d (knicks have enough of that already) and doesnt fit in with either woodson’s way or melo and stoudamire’s need for the ball

    i like lin and he got me watching the knicks again, but letting him go was a good call, imo.

    ——–

    You realize Lin’s contract has zero impact on their cap flexibility, right?

  17. LGY July 18th, 2012 at 12:29 am

    At $20M, Lin’s our guy, he’s the best, he’s our starter, we love him!!!

    At $25M, Lin has a big head, we hate him, he sucks, fat Felton is better!!!

    This has nothing to do with money. It’s all Jim Dolan’s precious ego. Be careful over the next week because the MSG spin job character assassination of Lin will be in full force. Don’t let a propaganda machine manipulate you.

  18. Against All Odds July 18th, 2012 at 12:31 am

    You realize Lin’s contract has zero impact on their cap flexibility, right?
    ———————-

    Exactly.

    They have no flexibility regardless. They are the ones that decided to max out on Melo, Amare, and Tyson.

  19. Against All Odds July 18th, 2012 at 12:32 am

    It’s all Jim Dolan’s precious ego.

    —————————-

    He let Marbury and Isiah get away with so much. The place was a circus with those two and Isiah is still his friend today.

  20. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:36 am

    i dont pay much attention to the nba cap but evan roberts (who totally does) was saying today that if they matched, in year 3 they would have about 95% of thier cap tied to 4 players. is that not true?

  21. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:37 am

    im sorry he said 85%, but it was kind of offhanded when he said it.

  22. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:38 am

    i believe the dolans have no clue and basically only look at the knicks as programming and not much more.
    but that doesnt mean they are wrong to let lin go.

  23. LGY July 18th, 2012 at 12:42 am

    The Knicks are already over the cap so they can only spend money on players they have bird rights to, make sign and trades, use the $3M taxpayer exception, or vet minimum.

    Starting next season, tax paying teams like the Knicks are forbidden from doing sign and trades so scratch that option off.

    This is what you’re left with to improve the team over the next three years: 2013 draft pick, extend nutcase JR Smith for ~5M, $3M exception, $1.4M vet min. That’s it and Lin has absolutely no effect on it.

    They lost a good player for nothing and gained nothing in the process.

  24. Against All Odds July 18th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    They are over the cap regardless. So instead of it being tied up in 4 players it’s tied up in 3. Ppl have to remember Dolan was over the cap when guys that Curry, Crawford, and Jerome James were getting paid big money and they were one of the worst teams in the league. Now yes the penalties going forward are harsher but they put themselves in this position. They maxed out on two guys(Melo & Amare) that don’t fit.

  25. Pat M. July 18th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    LGY….I’m with you on this, as I loath Jim Dolan…….He’s humped over many a good player, coach, GM…….And yet so many people were surprised when Steve Nash signed with the LA Lakers…….Night and day operations….Look for the Lakers to trade and sign Dwight Howard by the end of summer…..Night all

  26. LGY July 18th, 2012 at 12:44 am

    Anyone that wants to get an idea of how MSG manipulates their beat writers to spread propaganda needs to read what @BIGSPORTSWRITER is posting on twitter.

  27. m July 18th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    Great job by Vince. His work is characterized by unbridled enthusiasm! And better spelling. ;)

    As for the Yankees, just can’t say enough about how they’re playing right now. All numbers pointing to a runaway lead in the AL. Good stuff.

  28. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    you got that right, melo and amare don’t fit together at all.
    and just to make it worse, chandler doesnt fit with either one of them.
    im not into blaming melo for everything but they just paid too high a price to get him.

  29. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    agreed, vince does a very good job of filling in.

  30. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 12:50 am

    lgy, they must’ve learned those tricks from YES.

    or vice-versa.

  31. m July 18th, 2012 at 12:52 am

    Pat M,

    Houston pulled the plug on any trade with them because he wouldn’t sign an extension.

    Jalen Rose said Howard loathed following Shaq’s footsteps, but some of the greatest centers have their jerseys hanging in Staples. Says he’d be crazy to pass up a chance to play with Kobe, Nash, and Gasol. We’ll see if there’s really just one team on his list.

  32. Against All Odds July 18th, 2012 at 12:55 am

    According to Ric Bucher(who has been wrong in the past) Howard still wants to be a BK Net. Does he realize the only way to Brooklyn is through a trade and the Magic who have been presented with the Net offer since the lockout ended up until a week ago hasn’t pulled the trigger on that deal and probably won;t. He can’t go as a FA unless he wants to pay for the vet min. He has to either expand that list or go play for the Mavs which he could do if he is serious about walking into free agency.

  33. m July 18th, 2012 at 12:58 am

    Bucher was a Laker’s shill before. But that’s some interesting info, AAO. Why did talks with the Nets collapse?

  34. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 1:05 am

    nba players should just shut up about where they ‘want’ to play. in the end they want to play for whoever pays them the last dime. there’s nothing wrong with that but just spare me the story of where you’d love to play, in the end you have to decide whether you want to play there or take the last dime and in each and every case, they will take the last dime before going where they want.
    reminds me of johnny damon who ‘always wanted to play for’ whoever held out the last dollar.

  35. Against All Odds July 18th, 2012 at 1:12 am

    Funny thing about Bucher is when he talks about the Lakers and Dwight he paints the darkest scenario of why it won’t happen. I think he still has egg on his face from yrs ago when he said Kobe Bryant will never wear a Laker jersey again. It seems like since that day he has been anti Kobe/Lakers.

    In regards to the talks breaking down it depends on what you believe:

    Some reports say they aren’t high on Lopez
    The Magic only talk to the Nets to appease Howard but won’t trade him to BK because they don’t want to fulfill his desire
    Magic making to many demands in terms of giving up bad contracts and getting back a ton of quality

    According to some reports Dwight would have been a Net at one point last yr but the owner was against the trade because he felt they had a real chance to keep him.

  36. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 1:15 am

    speaking about johnny, how bad a calculation was in on johnny and scotty’s part to outprice the yankees this spring? he could have had a chance to play almost every day for a team that is rolling over their division for a decent buck but held out and missed 1/3 of the season and ended up playing on a team that is going nowhere and has no reason to give ab’s to an old player.
    johnny’s done pretty well the past month after it took him 5 weeks to get in the groove, but they’ve only found 58 at bats for him in that month.

    had he signed early with the yankees and gone to ST he might be batting 2nd in the best lineup in baseball.

    i know johnny has ‘always wanted to wear the chief on his cap’ but settling for the yankees early might have been a better decision.

    worked out pretty well for us though, didn’t it?

    thank again scotty!

  37. Nilsson July 18th, 2012 at 1:33 am

    Wow, lots of good NBA talk in the middle of July at LoHud. Anyway, my last two cents on NYK. It was really fun to see Lin come out of absolutely nowhere and play like he did. But in the back of my mind it almost felt too good to be true. I was hoping Knicks management wouldn’t screw this up, but they did. I’ve got to hand it to Daryl Morey, he played Grunwald and Dolan. give a false sense of security with the initial offer and then made them panic with the second offer.

    So glad I have the Yanks.

  38. jacksquat July 18th, 2012 at 1:36 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue July 17th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
    “who cares about montero? ”

    While I wish the guy well, I am okay with it not happening just yet because I fear that this place would be a nonstop living hell if he were tearing the cover off the ball.

    Even if he doesn’t start hitting for another 3 or 4 years, that will happen, especially if Cashman is still with the team.

  39. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 1:40 am

    if that doesnt happen for the next 3 or 4 years, it will probably be happening in independant ball.

  40. UnKnown July 18th, 2012 at 2:01 am

    Lakers with Nash and Howard would be serious contenders to knock off OKC. I don’t think they have the horses to do it now with just Nash alone.

  41. Pat M. July 18th, 2012 at 2:16 am

    Factor in Poa Gosol along with super defensive World be Peace, and watch out NBA

  42. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 2:21 am

    howard, nash, pau, kobe and world b OKC.

  43. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 2:23 am

    that was weird, lemme try again

    pau, nash, howard and kobe > lebron and his posse.

    in fact i think they are < OKC

  44. Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 2:24 am

    ok third try i think the laker with howard arent as good as the heat or the thunder.

  45. MTU July 18th, 2012 at 5:35 am

    Anybody up ?

  46. GregD July 18th, 2012 at 6:36 am

    MTU July 18th, 2012 at 5:35 am
    Anybody up ?

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    yep

  47. MTU July 18th, 2012 at 6:48 am

    That took a while.

    :)

  48. tomingeorgia July 18th, 2012 at 6:54 am

    Hey, Mr. MTU!

  49. MTU July 18th, 2012 at 6:55 am

    Whaddya say Mister Tom.

  50. jmills July 18th, 2012 at 7:17 am

    Wow – didn’t keep watch CC had built up quite so many wins so young – could actually be a legit shot at 300 when I thought that notion had disappeared – I’ll be interested to see how Romero contributes today – bad sprain no break for Bautista so hopefully nothing chronic

  51. MTU July 18th, 2012 at 7:28 am

    Our nearest AL East competitor is almost 10 games back.

    Makes me think of an old Del Shannon song (“Runaway”).

    Yeah I know I’m datin’ myself but who cares.

    :)

  52. MTU July 18th, 2012 at 7:30 am

    Our maybe one from the Ventures (“Wipeout”).

  53. MTU July 18th, 2012 at 7:30 am

    edit: Or

  54. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Good morning MTU and Tom and anyone else out there typing now-
    CC, rest and all is back, better than ever.

  55. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 7:39 am

    Latest news on Gardner’s MRI yesterday, which is no news:

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....ers_m.html

  56. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 7:46 am

    Still awake guys?

  57. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    jmills-

    Good morning. With Bautista out, will the Blue Jays now be sellers at the trading deadline?

  58. blake July 18th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    Trader,
    I asked yesterday what you thought about a three way with the Padres and Dbacks? The Dbacks have inquired about Headley but those two organizations dont really like each other……maybe the Yanks coukd help Arizona get their 3B……get the Padres some prospects and get the Yanks Mr. Upton?

  59. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Blake- I’ll be back in a minute, I’m researching your suggestion.

  60. Against All Odds July 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Ys Guy July 18th, 2012 at 2:24 am

    ok third try i think the laker with howard arent as good as the heat or the thunder.

    ——————–

    I would agree with that. They would probably become the 3rd best team in the league though.

  61. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    MLBTRs last night

    The Diamondbacks are interested in acquiring Padres third baseman Chase Headley, but strained relations between the organizations would make it difficult for them to strike a deal, tweets Olney.

    Headley is 28, a career .268 hitter, hitting .266 with 10 homers this year. I think it would take a lot more than Headley to get J. Upton.

    The Yankees, I don’t believe have the luxury to trade one of their current starters to facilitate a 3 team deal, and have no major league ready position players that would entice Towers. If the Yankees added, lets say Liriano for some prospects, then they could trade one of their current starters.

    I don’t see a trade happening. Too many questions surrounding Upton on the Yankees starting with renegotiating his contract to the issues brought up by the article you posted, plus the questionable shoulder.

  62. jmills July 18th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Yt – Jays look to be on the verge of traders – the stupid wild card thing creates unfortunate hangers on. Have a great day.

  63. Melkmanisinhotlanta July 18th, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Gardner will be out for the rest of the year unless he bunts. The elbow injury takes long periods of rest to heal and then even after that he will be in big danger of re-injury. It’s sad that his career may be close to over.

  64. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Again, if you are Towers, what acquisitions improve your team while still making them contenders?

    A better 3rd baseman to replace Roberts/Blum
    A SS since it was reported that some people in the organization thought he was malingering in taking too much time to return from his ankle injury.
    A starter to replace injured Daniel Hudson
    A reliever, mainly someone to replace closer JJ Putz.
    Another outfielder to replace Upton. Parra is a 4th OF’er

    If I were Towers, these major league young players or nearly ready players would interst me:

    Nova, more than Hughes
    Phelps
    DRob
    ? Joba
    These future players would help, added on to one of the above:
    Banuelos
    Austin
    Williams
    Sanchez
    Etc.

    Just not happening. As much as I too would like JU I can’t come up with a solution, even if it’s a 3 team trade scenario.

  65. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Blake-

    The SS was Stephen Drew.

  66. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Way too premature to call Gardner’s career over.

  67. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    jmills

    Enjoy your day. Hopefully Bautista is back soon to wreak havoc on the other teams in the AL East.

  68. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Blake-

    Can you think of another OF’er that Cashman can get without sacrificing any of the starting pitchers or untouchables in the farm system?

  69. blake July 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    “Headley is 28, a career .268 hitter, hitting .266 with 10 homers this year. I think it would take a lot more than Headley to get J. Upton.”

    Yes….the Yanks would probably have to provide prospects to both Arizona and the Padres to.make it work….I do think Headley would give Towers the 3B hes looking for….hes a good player who many think might take offnif he got out of Petco.

    Thr Yanks would probably have to give either Hughes or Nova to the Dbacks and then theyd have to find a way to make SD happy…..

    Headley+ Hughes would be a pretty good return Upton……

  70. blake July 18th, 2012 at 9:07 am

    “Can you think of another OF’er that Cashman can get without sacrificing any of the starting pitchers or untouchables in the farm system?”

    Victorino maybe…..but nobody good who is more than a rental.

  71. GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    MTU July 18th, 2012 at 7:28 am
    Our nearest AL East competitor is almost 10 games back.

    Makes me think of an old Del Shannon song (“Runaway”).

    Yeah I know I’m datin’ myself but who cares.

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    If you’re dating yourself, at least you won’t be attending the senior prom alone again, this year.

  72. GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 8:44 am
    Again, if you are Towers, what acquisitions improve your team while still making them contenders?

    A better 3rd baseman to replace Roberts/Blum
    A SS since it was reported that some people in the organization thought he was malingering in taking too much time to return from his ankle injury.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    I wonder if David Adams spent two years jaking it after his ankle injury?

  73. GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    Gino Cimoli? Damned, Pat. Even I haven’t pulled that name out before. I would have at least gone with Jerry Lumpe.

  74. RayVT July 18th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    Or maybe Marv Thornberry!

  75. Bo knows July 18th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    This is a totally “out there” team. Like a patchwork quilt that comes together. The stars aligned and all those arcanes. Three old men, a starting rotation that lost two members, a BP – ditto. One dominant player plus two aging All Stars. I could go on.

    The last two games were won by Raul Jones who are serviceable in LF. Just weird.

    The sum is greater than the parts. I keep waiting for a reality check.

  76. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    GB-

    Good Morning.

    “On radio, Kendrick basically accused Drew of scheduling his rehab around free agency (there’s a contract option for 2013) rather than to the benefit of the club. Drew shattered his ankle on a play at the plate last July 20 and has been in recovery/rehab since. It’s one thing to wish Drew would heal faster. It’s another to suggest malingering, and out in the open.”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/d.....-drew.html

  77. GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    I’d offer Adam Warren to Detroit for Quentin Berry. Still would check on Tyler Colvin of Colorado, Omar Infante or Roger Bernadina of Washington.

  78. GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:33 am

    RayVT July 18th, 2012 at 9:26 am
    GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    Or maybe Marv Thornberry!

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    Always loved good Marv Throneberry stories.

  79. The Genius Maker July 18th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Under no circumstance should Gardner be shut down for the year. Let him be a defensive replacement/pinch runner and if he gets to the plate, you bunt him…or let him swing with some pain. PatM is correct in that you can get burned with Ibanez and even Jones in LF; remember Ibanez butchered an important play against us in the playoffs with the Phillies. Gardner gets to balls these guys let drop and nobody even knows it because they are 10 feet away from them. Gardner must be on the team later in the year even if he can’t swing

  80. GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    DeWayne Wise can do Gardner’s job.

  81. GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    GB-

    Good Morning.

    “On radio, Kendrick basically accused Drew of scheduling his rehab around free agency (there’s a contract option for 2013) rather than to the benefit of the club. Drew shattered his ankle on a play at the plate last July 20 and has been in recovery/rehab since. It’s one thing to wish Drew would heal faster. It’s another to suggest malingering, and out in the open.”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/d…..-drew.html

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    Morning, Trader

    Never good when the club starts putting this stuff out without a shread of facts. Not all people heal the same…..no matter hard hard you wish. Maybe he was jaking it or maybe not. It sure wouldn’t help him get any more money by not playing. It sure won’t make the players there and players considering signing there think it’s such a good place to be.

  82. RadioKev July 18th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    CC didn’t rest his groin much over the break, eh?

    Tee hee

  83. Hassey July 18th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Mariano rings the opening bell at the NYSE just now…warming up his wrists for a September return?

  84. RadioKev July 18th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    I’d offer Adam Warren to Detroit for Quentin Berry. Still would check on Tyler Colvin of Colorado, Omar Infante or Roger Bernadina of Washington.
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    Quentinberries stock is pretty high right now. No way Warren lands you him.

  85. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Under no circumstance should Gardner be shut down for the year
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    GM-

    I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree with you on that one.
    If the MRI is negative, he can get another PRP injection and completely rest the right elbow again, or they can do exploratory surgery and get him ready for next year. If the MRI is positive for fragments of cartilage, which would not be detected on a plain X-Ray, then it’s surgery.

    If he comes back with pain, and can’t hit or steal head first, or dive for a ball with his gloved right arm, he is of little help and will risk more significant injury to that elbbow.

  86. DONNYBROOK July 18th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    Girardi mentioned using Gardner even if hurt, but added the caveat\Sept. No way if the roster is restricted to 25, do you waste a spot onna Gardner-Light. Besides, there would be no need to rush Gardner’s return, with J. Upton patroling LF.

  87. GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    RadioKev July 18th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    GreenBeret7 July 18th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    I’d offer Adam Warren to Detroit for Quentin Berry. Still would check on Tyler Colvin of Colorado, Omar Infante or Roger Bernadina of Washington.
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    Quentinberries stock is pretty high right now. No way Warren lands you him.

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    Detroit still has Raburn to play in the outfield along with Young, and they need starting pitching as much as Boton does. Their stud rookie pitcher, Jacob Turner was hammered last night. 5 ML starts and he’s gotten whacked in 3 of them.

  88. austinmac July 18th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    YT,

    Hasn’t Gardner already had an MRI which was negative? Perhaps, the more recent one is with a dye injection.

    I don’t think exploratory surgery for this type of complaint is appropriate unless the testing shows a problem. You don’t go surgically probing an elbow or forearm looking for problems. At least, my doctor wouldn’t nor do I think surgical guidelines would allow.

    I do think Gardner’s return is very questionable regardless of the MRI result or lack of result.

  89. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Austinmac-

    It’s possible that small fragments of cartilage, not bone, have become loose in the elbow joint since his last MRI, and would need to be cleaned out.

    If it’s completely negative, and there are no signs of infection, then the conservative treatment for you and I would be more rest and anti-inflammatories.

    For the Physicians on contract to a major league team like the Yankees they need to weigh being conservative with getting to the root of the problem after the conservative route is exhausted.

    That’s why you have to wait until insurance clears you for an MRI during weekdays only, and the sports figure gets it on Sunday, hours after it’s ordered.

    We’re just not high enough on the food chain. :)

    PS- I stayed at a HIE last night.

  90. blake July 18th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    I have no idea what’s going on with Gardner’s elbow…..maybe he needs to rub some skoal juice on it…..

  91. JobaTipsHisCap July 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    video of the day, LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded

  92. blake July 18th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Bowden broke down the Phillies situation with Hamels pretty well on the radio yesterday and if Amaro is smart this is what he’ll do…..give Cole a 72 hour windown to accept the Matt Cain deal…..if he doesn’t then you have to trade him and you probably look at Texas or Detroit and try to get a Olt/Perez package or try and get Castenllanos from Detroit…..then you try to sign Hamels again in the offseason.

    If he’s traded I think he’ll go to Texas because they have the most to offer and they will be aggressive…..maybe this 4 game winning streak will fool the Phillies in to thinking they can get back in it and they’ll hold him…..that would be great.

  93. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Austinmac

    Yes I would think they might have done a dye contrast MRI, known also as a MR arthogram, yesterday on Gardner,which would better enhance a partial ulnar collateral ligament tear. There are some possible adverse reactions however when using dye.

    Here’s an article on what Strasburg went thru to diagnose his tear:
    http://www.drdavidgeier.com/st.....hn-injury/

  94. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Blake-

    I thought the Phillies might be offering 120M, not the Matt Cain 112.5M deal.

    If Hamels gets to FA the Dodgers will blow anyone out of the water.

  95. blake July 18th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    “I thought the Phillies might be offering 120M, not the Matt Cain 112.5M deal.”

    well in that neighbordhood…..they are comparable pitchers.

  96. Yankee Trader July 18th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    New Post—————–>

  97. DONNYBROOK July 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    Hamels seems hell bent on going free agent. He will Always be regarded as Jr. when mentioned in the same breath as Halladay and Lee. The deal the Phillies gave Rollins in the offseason, was a mistake, and re-signing Hamels would be compounding that. Dealing both Hamels and Rollins, and starting the rebuilding process ASAP, would be the wise path to follow.

  98. FreeAgentSignee July 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Welcome back CC! Good job!
    Congratulations Robinson!

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