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Alex at DH, Stewart behind the plate

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 19, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Raul Ibanez LF
Eric Chavez 3B
Chris Stewart C

RHP Freddy Garcia

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212 Responses to “Alex at DH, Stewart behind the plate”

  1. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    “You know, this blog is fun to read. Constant proposals to improve the best team in baseball by acquiring this one or that one, usually at the cost of at least 1/5 or more of our rotation, trading the farm and the future for OK but inconsistent guys, De Jesus, even. “Generational” bats (I’ve seen a few: Williams, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Rose, and a few others) squandered, and so on.

    I don’t have a clue if there will be a trade involving the Yankees before the deadline, but the Yankees are dealing from strength. They do not need anything, and if they do, they’ll catch it off the waiver wire. Hyperactive trading activity is not in our interests now, and the offseason will take care of itself. Still fun to read, though.”

    In the words of Meg Ryan, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :)

    tomingeorgia, I couldn’t agree with your more.

    My fervent hope is that the Yankees sit tight, maybe get some OF replacement if they feel they need it and Gardner is no longer on this season’s radar, and show up next year with both Nova, Hughes, and Phelps in tow.

    As the saying goes, you can never have too much pitching.

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    with both Nova and Hughes, and Phelps in tow.

  3. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    i dont think we’re going to a 6 man rotation b/c joe has said on several occasions in the past that he doesnt like that. but if they are going to a 6-man, it might be specifically for cc who hasn’t fared well the past 2 postseasons.(era’s over 6.20 and whip over 2.0)

    his overall PS #’s might indicate that he’s been gassed going into the playoffs and he only fared well in 2009.

  4. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    “maybe get some OF replacement if they feel they need it and Gardner is no longer on this season’s radar”

    I agree. GGBG is looking less and less likely by the day.

    Perhaps he’ll surprise us.

  5. mick July 19th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    A clue:

    MarcCarig profile

    MarcCarig Girardi says no update on Gardner. Phelps will be used in spots like Cory Wade, not strictly as a long man. Oh,and Reggie’s here.

  6. mick July 19th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Middle relief.
    Who woulda thunk it?

  7. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    Sounds like they want to use Phelps like an Aceves type.

    If he can handle the stress on his arm he can make himself very valuable.

  8. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Mick-

    I think they might let Phelps spot start too if they need it.

    ;)

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    GO WHITE SOX!!!

  10. luis July 19th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Good evening everyone,

    On Montero….He is adjusting and is starting to hit…The are no poetics in that…He will be an all star C, you can write it down Stoned.

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Hmmm. If Carig is correct, looks like my Phelpsmeter was pretty much on the money.

    :)

  12. luis July 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Middle relief….DUMB!!!

  13. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    phelps has a good arm and can help take some of the load off the guys who are pitching alot of innings.
    i know several people on here are gonna howl about how moving from long relief to short relief is going to make his arm fall off, but now is the time to see if he might be in the mix for the stretch run and PS.

  14. blake July 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Why exactly did they stretch Phelps out again?

  15. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Split w Oakland. Take 2 of 3 from the M’s.

    Jet home.

    :)

  16. mick July 19th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    unless…
    they are trying not to hurt freddy’s feelings
    meaning if he bombs tonight phelps wally pipps him in his next start

  17. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    trisha,
    Glad I have that effect on someone, at this date!

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    See, I told ya you guys (well many of you) just overthink everything! Sometimes the simple answer is the most obvious one, especially when dealing with the Ys. They’re pretty uncomplicated.

    :)

  19. luis July 19th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Why exactly did they stretch Phelps out again?

    ———————————————

    Maybe because they have no clue?

  20. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    Blake-

    IMO they are using Phelps in the manner they feel they need him in.

    Like an Aceves. If he suceeds he really increases his value.

    It wouldn’t be my preference but they do not seem to have a place for him other than that for now.

    If one of our other guys falters or is injured Phelps gets the nod.

    It’s not ideal but it is what it is.

  21. luis July 19th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Mick,

    Odd are that he will do just fine against Oakland at the Coliseum…

  22. mick July 19th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    In the words of Meg Ryan, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    =====================================
    “I’ll have whatever she’s having.”
    Rob Reiners mother

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    tomingeorgia – :lol:

    ************

    guys – a team’s gotta do what a team’s gotta do. Qualls hasn’t been getting the job done, Wade has been having difficulties, they needed bullpen help. Mitchell really needs more time before he comes up, so they’d be hurting him to keep him in the pen. So they brought up Pelps, someone upon whom they know they can rely. It’s probably a relatively short-term fix. And as mick has pointed out, if Freddy has problems, they can always switch them around.

    This team’s been to a few rodeos. Relax.

  24. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    “luis July 19th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    blake July 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Why exactly did they stretch Phelps out again?

    ———————————————

    Maybe because they have no clue?’”
    =-==————————–

    or maybe because when cc was down they had doubts about freddy and wanted him ready to start if necessary. and maybe now that cc is back and freddy seems ok they’re looking for another way to use him.

    you guys act like these guys are made of glass. he’ll be fine let’s see what the kid can do.

  25. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Well, I guess it was inevitable. Hate stuff like that, as in Noesi ll.

    There are too many drawbacks to list.

    The main thing is – instead of developing a starter, they’re doing an unnecessary patch job. If another pitcher goes down, they’re beating the bushes instead of plugging in a starter.

    Also, this effectively derails Phelps as a starter option, next year.

    SOS – Blech

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    “phelps has a good arm and can help take some of the load off the guys who are pitching alot of innings.
    i know several people on here are gonna howl about how moving from long relief to short relief is going to make his arm fall off, but now is the time to see if he might be in the mix for the stretch run and PS.”

    Agree.

  27. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    MTU,

    My guess is Wade sucking made them shift plans with Phelps…..I guess they feel they need him in the pen again which is ok I guess so long as they use him

  28. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    How about this theory?

    Yanks have 2 off days in the next 2 weeks so Phelps will not be here after this road trip and they go home for Bost, Balt and Sea.

    How’s that one?

  29. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    MTU,

    An SP is more valuable than 100 Aceves…This is a very shortsighted move…Garcia has no future with the Yankees, Phelps does and as a member of the rotation for years to come…The moment to see if he has what it takes to man a spot in the rotation was now, when we have a ten game lead in the standings…They are doing themselves a disservice by using Phelps as a middle reliever both for now and the future…He needs to start to gain innings, otherwise he is going to be in the same situation that Noesi was last season.

  30. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    I don’t think it derails Phelps at all for next season. And none of us knows what, if anything, the Yanks have going on in their bag of tricks. And as Ys points out, if Phelps is in there for the PS, it’s going to be as a reliever and not a starter. Plenty of time for him to be stretched out for next season. And probably plenty of opportunities for him to get long innings in. Girardi’s not an idiot when it comes to pitching, far from it.

    Trust. Believe. Let if flow. It’s all good.

  31. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    I’m going to pull for Phelps to succeed at every turn.

    My only concern is the additional stress caused on his arm being used in this new mode.

    Aceves even had some trouble with that type of role.

    Hopefully the Yankees will manage him carefully.

    If not they run the risk of damaging a talented young starter.

    I hope he continues to suceed.

    Show ‘em some Novatude David.

    ;)

  32. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    An SP is more valuable than 100 Aceves…This is a very shortsighted move…Garcia has no future with the Yankees, Phelps does and as a member of the rotation for years to come…The moment to see if he has what it takes to man a spot in the rotation was now, when we have a ten game lead in the standings…They are doing themselves a disservice by using Phelps as a middle reliever both for now and the future…He needs to start to gain innings, otherwise he is going to be in the same situation that Noesi was last season.

    ————–
    All of the above.

  33. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    The moment to see if he has what it takes to man a spot in the rotation was now, when we have a ten game lead in the standings…
    ==========================
    They used him before we had the 10 game lead, it has nothing to do with that.
    If Freddy went down he’s their man but they might not want to do that to Freddy.
    Joe isn’t like that.

    Use him whenever needed on this road trip then send him back down, if Freddy has 2 more good starts.

  34. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Talking about stumping to the same stone over and over again….

  35. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    once upon a time they took a starter named phil and put him into the pen, it worked out pretty well and guess what, his arm didn’t fall off. in fact he got alot of major league experience that helped his development. the next season, they moved him back to starting and he won 18 games. and amazingly his arm didnt fall off again!

  36. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Trust. Believe. Let if flow. It’s all good.
    ========================
    Youtube:Feel Flows The Beach Boys

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    “My guess is Wade sucking made them shift plans with Phelps…..I guess they feel they need him in the pen again which is ok I guess so long as they use him”

    I think that’s definitely part of it. We’ve seen the residuals of an overworked pen. It’s the LAST thing a PS-bound team wants. So whatever they have to do to help it out, they need to do it. They’re not going to risk overworking DRob, and they can’t risk overworking Soriano. We saw what started to happen to Logan when he was getting too many innings. I think Phelps is the perfect answer. He can go long if they need him to, and he can spot relieve. That’s what they need right now.

    Of course, if something else is in the works, I still think it makes sense!

    :D

  38. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Isn’t it amazing that the most successful transition to starting in the Majors was Nova. Pitched 180 innings in AAA, etc. In other words a linear progression. Time to work on pitches, work with coaches, a development curve.

    This jumping on their horse and galloping off in all directions is just bad asset management.

  39. PacoDooley July 19th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    The funny part about this Phelps/Garcia situation is that Garcia has probably been a better reliever this season than he has been a starter, which no one expected. I would prefer that they just swap those roles. Leave Garcia in the pen to eat innings in relief when needed and see how Phelps fares at the big league level.

    Phelps’s season reminds me of IPK. He goes down to the minors and absolutely dominates, basically showing the team that he does not belong there. IPK had trouble at the big league level in NY, but obviously is a decent pitcher…

  40. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Luis-

    I share your concern. I think you know that.

    Just remember how valuable Aceves was when he was healthy.

    He could do it all. Maybe Phelps can be that type of guy ?

    I think Phelps is mature enough both physically and mentally to have a chance to make this work. at least I hope so.

    The Verducci rules go by the max. # of innings pitched previously.

    Phelps pitched a full season last year.

    If they want him to start next season, or even this one I think he’ll be Ok.

    Fingers crossed.

    ;)

  41. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    The Beach Boys – Feel Flows
    ? 4:45? 4:45

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPPq_Cdarig

  42. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Unfolding enveloping missiles of soul
    Recall senses sadly
    Mirage like soft blue like lanterns below
    To light the way gladly
    Whether whistling heaven’s clouds disappear
    Where the wind withers memory
    Whether whiteness whisks soft shadows away

  43. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    once upon a time they took a starter named phil and put him into the pen, it worked out pretty well and guess what, his arm didn’t fall off. in fact he got alot of major league experience that helped his development. the next season, they moved him back to starting and he won 18 games. and amazingly his arm didnt fall off again!

    ———–
    And now five years later, he’s almost a pitcher. Oh wait, two pitches do create a bit of a problem, could use a sinker or maybe have more faith in his CU.

    Using Hughes as a template serves only one purpose – as a bad example.

  44. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    better one:

    The Beach Boys – Feel Flows
    ? 2:55? 2:55

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2uoXsaGozo

  45. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    and before there was aceves, there was ramiro mendoza who could start or give you 2 innings out of the pen and was a HUGE asset for the yankees.

  46. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Mr. mick, Ms trisha, Mr. MTU,
    I’ve got to rely on you tonight to quash the naysayers. Best team in baseball, and they’re trying to dismantle it. Hard to believe. I’ll worry about 2015 when I get there.

  47. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    MTU,

    They are committing the same mistakes they did with the likes of Joba and Hughes…They are only retarding his development…Look how Nova has blossomed, the difference?…He had a linear development as Bo Knows very well points out.

    Y’s,

    Yanking Hughes back and forth only derail his devlopment…It has taken 5 years to finally see him become what he should have became two years ago.

  48. Uncle Ellsworth July 19th, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Ramiro Mendoza.

  49. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    once upon a time they took a starter named phil and put him into the pen, it worked out pretty well and guess what, his arm didn’t fall off. in fact he got alot of major league experience that helped his development. the next season, they moved him back to starting and he won 18 games. and amazingly his arm didnt fall off again!

    ———–
    And now five years later, he’s almost a pitcher. Oh wait, two pitches do create a bit of a problem, could use a sinker or maybe have more faith in his CU.

    Using Hughes as a template serves only one purpose – as a bad example.

    ============================

    +123456

  50. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Bo-

    Phelps is not Hughes. He already has 4 developed pitches and is physically mature.

    He’s got plenty of college and MiLB innings under his belt.

    I don’t really care for this move but Phelps is tough and smart and I hope he seizes the opportunity again and makes it work.

    He’s gonna have to dig down deep and find his inner Nova.

    That’s all there is right now.

    When his chance comes he needs to be ready to seize it.

    I’m pulling for the guy all the way.

  51. Uncle Ellsworth July 19th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Ys. ha. made my mendoza post before reading yours. he wss awesome and had ten wins in 98. Mets radio guys were talking about salami for an inning today – just sayin

  52. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    MTU,

    You know what the funny thing is?…He has excel in every opportunity he has been given…But they keep giving chances to guys that they shouldn’t aka Garcia

  53. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ure=fvwrel

  54. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    people who do pitching development for a living have no idea what causes a pitcher to succeed or fail or be injured. but you guys have it down perfect.

    starters have begun in the bp for decades and some have succeeded and some have failed, there’s no correlation to show whether working out of the bp in the bigs is better or worse than starting in the minors.

    but go right ahead and spout your genius anyway.

  55. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    Luis-

    Do not make the mistake of comparing Phelps to Hughes.

    Phelps is already a complete Pitcher. Hughes wasn’t and still isn’t.

    He will not be harmed in that way. I just hope that the additional stress on his arm from his new role does not hurt him.

    That would be my only concern.

    That role takes some adjustment both physically as well as mentally.

  56. RadioKev July 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    I think the move on Phelps was to plainly sure up the pen. And to back up Freddy. We’ll see what happens with his start.

  57. yankee21 July 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Just as I expected, no real plan to give Phelps a shot as a starter, NY doesn’t trust him, even with a 10 game lead. Speaks a whole lot about what they really think of Phelps and indirectly how much confidence they have in their pitching development program. He is up as basically relief fodder pitching a few innings a week and ending the year around 100 IP, so if he is going to be a potential starter next year, 100 innings or so will the base from which he will need to jump off of.

    Phelps trade value will actually decline because an opposing GM will ask Cashman why are you labeling him as a starter when you yourself had ample opportunity to either keep him stretched out or use him as a starter but chose not to? What were you afraid of? Is Phelps that much of a risk to blow your lead? Is Garcia that much more reliable?

    Would any savvy reporter ask Joe G or Cashman what their plan is if one of their starters goes down?

  58. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    and before there was aceves, there was ramiro mendoza who could start or give you 2 innings out of the pen and was a HUGE asset for the yankees.

    —————–
    Yep, was effective for five years and then disappeared off the horizon. Aceves came to the Yankees as a seasoned veteran, so does not qualify as the same situation.

    Phelps is ready to compete at the Majors level but hey, let’s do the belt and suspenders thing again, ad nauseum.

    To paraphrase – If he can’t do it here, as in this situation …

  59. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    Luis-

    I like Phelps very, very much.

    Make no mistake about that.

    ;)

  60. RadioKev July 19th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    MTU July 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    Luis-

    Do not make the mistake of comparing Phelps to Hughes.

    Phelps is already a complete Pitcher. Hughes wasn’t and still isn’t.

    He will not be harmed in that way. I just hope that the additional stress on his arm from his new role does not hurt him.

    That would be my only concern.

    That role takes some adjustment both physically as well as mentally.
    —————-

    I don’t think that’s accurate. Phelps has a more complete arsenal, but when has he worked deep into a game? To me that’s the mark of a finished pitcher.

  61. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    This won’t be a long term deal for Phelps.
    If he’s not a starter after this trip he will go back down and they will find someone else for the pen.
    He is not essential for this run.

  62. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    MTU,

    No doubt about it…Phelps is a complete pitcher…But by not giving him regular work and innings we are risking injury and innings limits in the future…Pretty much what has happened with Hughes…In the case of the latter, it also prevented him form developing his secondary stuff.

  63. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    I have to agree with Trishna ( a new movie out there) that you guys are overthinking.

  64. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    tomingeorgia – Straw will help too if he’s around. Pat M also.

    What we have here is a bunch of lovely guys, but overworriers. Here’s my motto. If it’s someone who started off the season with constant hand-wringing, I’m not surprised to see the same thing at the start of the second half. Some people just cannot stop themselves from worrying. (Oh yeah, Tabbert will help us out too.)

    I’ve taken a lot of heat for this stance, but I know that the collective knowledge of the Yankee organization trumps anything on lohud. They’ve shown they know how to put teams together. They also are not going to go beyond what they feel they need in order to succeed. I believe there’s enough institutional memory there to insure that doesn’t happen this season.

    Smart money tells you that if Wade and Qualls were getting the job done, Phelps would still be down in AAA. And we don’t know whether this is a precursor to Freddy going somewhere by the trading deadline and Phelps taking his place.

    Phelps will survive quite nicely. He’s battle-tested.

  65. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    I like Phelps very, very much.
    ===================
    As much as you liked Holliday?

  66. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    “100 innings or so will the base from which he will need to jump off of.”

    That is incorrect.

    The Verducci rules do not work that way.

    Phelps pitched a full season in Minors last year.

    That is his base. Not what he does this season.

    Keep in mind that Phelps is a little older and physically more mature.

    That is important too.

    A 5th starter only has to pitch about 150 innings.

  67. RadioKev July 19th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Phelps trade value will actually decline because an opposing GM will ask Cashman why are you labeling him as a starter when you yourself had ample opportunity to either keep him stretched out or use him as a starter but chose not to? What were you afraid of? Is Phelps that much of a risk to blow your lead? Is Garcia that much more reliable?
    ———–

    I’m fairly certain competing GMs don’t think like that. They see the scouting report and the results. A guy getting big league outs is more valuable than a guy making minor league outs. Every time.

  68. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Freddy isn’t chopped liver.

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    MTU – :)

  70. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    FYI,

    Phelps is already considered a top 5 prospect…The scouts view him as an SP with great upside

  71. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Freddy-Phelps-Phreddy-Felps
    Enough.
    All-reddy.

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Wow, still so strange to see Robin Ventura standing there as a manager.

  73. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    “once upon a time they took a starter named phil and put him into the pen, it worked out pretty well and guess what, his arm didn’t fall off.”

    Yea but he was the set up guy…..they needed him….he wasnt made a middle reliever…..also Phil had almost two years of injury and ineffectiveness after his little bullpen stint…..

  74. Joe from Long Island July 19th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    remind me – how many WS rings, and other championships, have commenters here won? how many baseball lifers post here? i keep forgetting.

    whatever one’s line of work, it’s important to remember – just because you don’t understand something, it doesn’t mean that there’s no reason, or that the reason is wrong. maybe, just maybe, there’s information you don’t know.

  75. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Last year it was nip and tuck between Nova and Noesi about who would go north with the team. They were effective carbon copies of each other, arguably Noesi was better. And then the roads forked for one of them.

    The mantra is “develop your own pitching, shore up with a Free Agents”. This is totally against the grain.

    My hope would be that there is a trade brewing. Otherwise, this is senseless.

  76. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    i wouldnt be shocked to find out that the whole reason phelps is up in the bigs is specifically to increase his trade value should they decide to make a move.

  77. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    mick, I think that would have read better if you said -

    Phelps-Freddy-Felps-Phreddy
    Enough.
    All-reddy.

    :)

    But I agree with the sentiment.

  78. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    My hope would be that there is a trade brewing. Otherwise, this is senseless.
    ==================
    How do we know what they are doing?

  79. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    “remind me – how many WS rings, and other championships, have commenters here won? how many baseball lifers post here? i keep forgetting.

    whatever one’s line of work, it’s important to remember – just because you don’t understand something, it doesn’t mean that there’s no reason, or that the reason is wrong. maybe, just maybe, there’s information you don’t know.”

    Tears to my bleepin’ eyes.

    Joe from LI – we need you here. Desperately.

  80. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Joan Rivers at fenway. As if there isn’t enough comedy there already!

  81. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    If the Yanks feel like they need Phelps to pitch some of those 7th innings situations where thyve had to use Qualls then Im cool with that…..Id rather him be starting but I can understand it if they feel like they need him and if they will ise him in meaningful spots…

    The only thing I really dont like is taking prospects and making them mop up guys…..thats a waste IMO….

  82. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Doc Joe,

    I hope that you are right…But the way I see it, this is a senseless move

  83. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    i varied the iambic pentameter

  84. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Padres Planning Extension Offers For Quentin, Street

    By Mark Polishuk [July 19 at 6:29pm CST]

    The Padres are planning to offer multiyear contract extensions to Carlos Quentin and Huston Street and will likely make such proposals before the trade deadline, reports Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. Sources say that current owner John Moores and incoming owner Ron Fowler have both “given the go-ahead” to GM Josh Byrnes to try and keep the two players, who have both been frequently mentioned as trade candidates.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    Take quentin off the board sounds like.

  85. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    …But the way I see it, this is a senseless move
    =====================
    Do not have premature speculation.

  86. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Joba is about to return…We have a ten game lead!…Most of our starters are going deep…There is no need for this move, unless they are finally planning to substitute Garcia with him.

  87. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    I think phelps is relieving because Wade fell off and they are tired of using Chad Qualls……if Freddy stumbles then Phelps and he may switch places. Id rather Phelps start in place of Freddy…..but if theyll actually use him as a bridge to the late inning guys then ok…….

  88. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    …But the way I see it, this is a senseless move
    =====================
    Do not have premature speculation.

    =========================

    Premature?…I am reacting to Joe’s comments

  89. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    “i varied the iambic pentameter”

    Very creative.

    “Do not have premature speculation.”

    Equally creative!

    :)

  90. The Return of Stoneburner July 19th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    luis July 19th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
    Good evening everyone,

    On Montero….He is adjusting and is starting to hit…The are no poetics in that…He will be an all star C, you can write it down Stoned.

    *****

    The poetics – it is the stadium he plays in

    The wax – he is adjusting

    The wax poetics and excuses that are made.

    And typical, typical, 33 ABs in the month and we are ready to say he WILL be an all star CATCHER. The poetics and wax are in full steam. It is nice to know the Montero fan boys show up after Montero goes 3 for 4 and has a some hits in a week. Fyi – Montero was batting a regular .276 for July. Fyi – Mike Trout is an all star – and Montero is not Trout.

    The poetics – Montero is better than Harper

    The wax – Montero is batting .333 in a paltry 33 ABs in July

    The wax poetics – excuses for one he does not succeed – and over praise when he hits well.

    The wax poetics continues – - – -but know this – Montero would have NO impact on this current Yankees team. Take my Andruw Jones/Ibanez and DH combination over him for sure this season – and that is not poetics and you can write that down – poetically of course in verse form preferably.

  91. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Joe Giradi’s comments that is

  92. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    The Return of Stoneburner July 19th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    :lol: Let’s see

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    If you have Extra Innings or one of the programs and you want to watch baseball, this is shaping up to be a good game in beantown – well a good pitching matchup so far. To me, that’s the premier definition of a good game. Of course, I’m hoping that Chucky falls apart quickly!

  94. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    How do we know what they are doing?
    ——————-
    Obviously, we don’t know. This blog is all about opinions. I’ve always been on board with management and their moves. These pitching decisions I happen to disagree with – strongly. Quite frankly, the impatience baffles me.

    Three weeks ago, it was “Phelps is being wasted here, we need to stretch him out” and now -Whoops – 180 degree turn.

  95. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Stoneburner,

    Lets see what kind of hitter Montero is two years from now…..then we can talk.

  96. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    Silly use of Phelps. He was injured in 2011 so did not pitch a full seasons worth of innings. They are once again retarding his innings growth this year.

  97. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    “Three weeks ago, it was “Phelps is being wasted here, we need to stretch him out” and now -Whoops – 180 degree turn.”

    Three weeks ago the bullpen wasn’t showing the wear it’s showing now.

    A team’s gotta do what a team’s gotta do. And they have to do it with their best.

  98. MG July 19th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Look, I like Phelps and think he has a future, but he is far from a fully developed major league starter at this point in his career.

    First of all, he has never pitched deep into a game in the majors as a starter.

    Secondly, he has trouble throwing strikes from the stretch-I was at the game he started in Tampa and it was pretty clear he consistently missed on the 1st base side of the plate from the stretch.

    Third, he hasn’t even pitched in rotation in the majors so hasn’t yet gone through the failure that every young starter has at some point in his development.

    If the Yankees decided to put Phelps in the rotation, replacing Garcia, until Andy gets back that is fine, but that obviously isn’t in their plans. They are not only the professionals who are getting paid to make these decisions but see and know far more than anyone on this blog.

    I guess with a ten game lead and not being able to rag on Teix (who is OPSing 1.250 in July) and some of the other LoHud ‘unfaves’ it has to be something…

  99. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Someone had mentioned the A’s ERA earlier. If you remember, the A’s pitching was it’s piece de resistance for quite a while, until they sold them off one by one. Maybe they learned something.

  100. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    .220 .281 .390 .672

    Thats what Mike Trout hit last year in 40 big league games……wonder if all those crazy people waxed poetic about how good he was? Not saying Montero is Mike Trout…..but whats hes done so far is close to meaningless ……we will see where he is in a couple of years……adjusting to thr big leagies is tough….tougher on some than others.

  101. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    “…They are not only the professionals who are getting paid to make these decisions but see and know far more than anyone on this blog.

    I guess with a ten game lead and not being able to rag on Teix (who is OPSing 1.250 in July) and some of the other LoHud ‘unfaves’ it has to be something…”

    ;)

    +1000

  102. MG July 19th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    I think phelps is relieving because Wade fell off and they are tired of using Chad Qualls……if Freddy stumbles then Phelps and he may switch places. Id rather Phelps start in place of Freddy…..but if theyll actually use him as a bridge to the late inning guys then ok…….
    —————————-
    blake, that is the most likely scenario the Yankees have in mind for Phelps in 2012.

  103. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    In my opinion, Phelps was brought up because they had to use Soriano twice, when the games seemed in hand. So far, no problem. The question is, will they ensure that Phelps will get the extra innings or will they have the Noesi ll situation.

    Well, I guess we’ll know in time.

  104. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    .220 .281 .390 .672

    Thats what Mike Trout hit last year in 40 big league games……wonder if all those crazy people waxed poetic about how good he was? Not saying Montero is Mike Trout…..but whats hes done so far is close to meaningless ……we will see where he is in a couple of years……adjusting to thr big leagies is tough….tougher on some than others.

    ==============================

    Good post Blake +1

  105. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    blake and luis,
    Yes, let’s wait two years on Montero. I won’t mention him until then. Deal?

  106. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    The wax poetics continues – – – -but know this – Montero would have NO impact on this current Yankees team.
    =================
    In fact he would have been sent down by now.

  107. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    I’d take that deal, Luis/Blake, he ain’t said nothing about you guys talking about Montero!

  108. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    I guess with a ten game lead and not being able to rag on Teix (who is OPSing 1.250 in July) and some of the other LoHud ‘unfaves’ it has to be something…”
    ===================
    “It’s always something.”
    Emily Latella

  109. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    “Yes, let’s wait two years on Montero. I won’t mention him until then. Deal?”

    Ok…you dont have to mention him til then ;)

  110. MG July 19th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    When did Noesi become a great prospect ruined by the Yankees handling of him?

    He was far from great at any point last year in any role and, when the Yankees started him 2X at the end of the season was downright awful-I was at the game he started in Tampa in September and saw nothing that made me want him pitching in the Yankees rotation.

    He was given a great chance this year by the Mariners and is now in the minors once again.

  111. blake July 19th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    “In fact he would have been sent down by now.”

    What about next year when Montero is 23 years old and perhaps starting to take off and Ibanez is 42 and retired? Will Raul be better then?

  112. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    These pitching decisions I happen to disagree with – strongly.
    =========================
    What is their decision?

  113. luis July 19th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Bo,

    Middle relievers are pretty much interchangeable…Joba is two to three weeks away, and later on Aardsma…This move was unnecessary IMO…Again, an SP is 100 times more valuable than a middle reliever…In my view, they have to know what they have on Phelps and let him work the kinks ( learning to go deep in to games, improve his move from the stretch and so on)…If he is on the Yankees plans for next season as I think they should, this is the perfect time to do so.

  114. mick July 19th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    What about next year when Montero is 23 years old and perhaps starting to take off and Ibanez is 42 and retired? Will Raul be better then?
    ==========================
    We were talking about now, not then.

  115. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    This move was unnecessary IMO
    =======================
    What move?

  116. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    I’m very high on Rothschild as a pitching coach (technician). To my mind, second to only Cooper and maybe Farrell. So any time Phelps spends with Rothschild is a bonus, the question is will the Yankees give Phelps the innings?

  117. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    “blake and luis,
    Yes, let’s wait two years on Montero. I won’t mention him until then. Deal?”

    :)

    It really is unfair to look at what Montero’s done and make any kind of determination about him, other than it’s what he’s done so far this season. I still think he’s going to be a killer. That said, it’s equally unwise for anyone to pretend to know what he would be doing at the Stadium were he here. We know what we know, and that’s that the Yankees have survived without him (contrary to what some posters promised) and that the revolving DH has stood the Yankees well.

    You have to deal with the cards you’re dealt, including not pretending that “aging players with long-term contracts” don’t need to have days off from fielding where they instead spend the day DHing.

  118. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Nobody knows what the plans are for Phelps yet so we have premature speculation.

  119. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Tom,

    You got a deal….But FTR, i didn’t start the talk about him…You don’t have to talk about him ;)

    JF,

    ;) LOL!

  120. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    “Nobody knows what the plans are for Phelps yet so we have premature speculation.”

    lohud’s specialty.

  121. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Mick,

    Joe Girardi said that he was going to be used as a middle reliever…There is no speculation, like we were doing last night

  122. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Nobody knows what the plans are for Phelps yet

    We know what Girardi said his plans for him are.

  123. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    luis, are you equating the wade remark by joe to middle relief usage by phelps?

  124. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    When did Noesi become a great prospect ruined by the Yankees handling of him?

    He was far from great at any point last year in any role and, when the Yankees started him 2X at the end of the season was downright awful-I was at the game he started in Tampa in September and saw nothing that made me want him pitching in the Yankees rotation.

    He was given a great chance this year by the Mariners and is now in the minors once again.

    ——————-
    All through the minors and into AAA, Noesi was slightly ahead of Nova. The mid nineties sinker, the secondary pitches etc. Last year, Nova was not put into a position to succeed and that is on the management.

    He went long stretches where he never saw the mound and so on. So yes, I fully expected him to struggle this year.

  125. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Darnell McDonald cleared waivers and has been re-assigned to AAA.

    Per MLBTR.

  126. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    luis, are you equating the wade remark by joe to middle relief usage by phelps?

    ===========================

    Is there any other way to look at it? Wade was a middle innings reliever

  127. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    Don Orsillo has the same premature speculation tendency that Sterling has. So annoying.

  128. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    “Darnell McDonald cleared waivers and has been re-assigned to AAA.

    Per MLBTR.”

    :D

    I am batting 1000.

    Well okay, I know how to read the Yankee roster.

  129. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    If Phelps is just here for temporary help or there is a trade in the midst would Joe tell us?

  130. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    I am very happy for Darnell. I still believe he can offer the Yanks some good backup if they need it.

  131. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    luis,

    My friend, he pays for the worst team in MLB. If he shows anything in the next five years, go get him, tiger (or maybe puma, or whatever big cats are roaming around down there).

  132. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    What is their decision?
    ————
    Decisions plural.

    Hughes being rushed in May, rather than letting him settle in, post the frozen north in AAA.
    Joba
    Kennedy
    Noesi

    No need to rehash

  133. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    “If Phelps is just here for temporary help or there is a trade in the midst would Joe tell us?”

    Uh no, nor should he. And as he isn’t karnac, he probably also cannot telegraph exactly what the plans are for Phelps, beyond what he knows right now.

    Actually, I find that reasonable. But I tend to be reasonable.

  134. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    They might want Phelps to replace Freddy now but will not bumrush Freddy so they are creating a “competition” as they are wont to do amongst pitchers.

    Could it be possible Phelps gets the start in Sea next Tues.?

  135. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    If Phelps is just here for temporary help or there is a trade in the midst would Joe tell us?

    ==================================

    No, but there is no need to bring him up if he is going to be traded…The only way to increase his trade value was to either let him start or leave him down in triple A…Again, an SP has much more value than a middle reliever

  136. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    No, but there is no need to bring him up if he is going to be traded…
    ===========================
    Maybe Freddy is being traded.

  137. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    I’ve always liked surprises. I’m more than willing to wait and see how it plays out – probably exactly what the Yankees are doing. For those who need to read the last page of the novel, I’d say you’re plum out of luck.

    Your team is 10 games ahead of the competition. And they got their in spite of some of your predictions. Sit back and enjoy the season if you can do it. You’re missing a great show in the meantime.

    :)

  138. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    luis,

    My friend, he pays for the worst team in MLB. If he shows anything in the next five years, go get him, tiger (or maybe puma, or whatever big cats are roaming around down there).

    ===============================

    This is true…But he will become a very good player, regardless on the team he plays… We have them both ( Tigers and Pumas) ;) I was joking before my friend

  139. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Maybe Freddy is being traded.

    ====================

    Hopefully :)

  140. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Mick,

    In all seriousness now…I don’t think they should trade Garcia either, he would be perfect for the long man role

  141. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    So if Freddy gets traded then this is a great move for Phelps and his progress is not impeded and premature speculation is no longer a form of instant gratification?

  142. blake July 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    “We were talking about now, not then.”

    But they both matter…..

  143. blake July 19th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Well at least Darnell.didnt have to cut his dreads for nothing..

  144. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    maybe they are trying to execute the nearly impossible flip flop freddy felps move?

  145. blake July 19th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Marc Carig MarcCarig

    @

    Are the Yankees looking at Wandy Rodriguez? I’m told, “he’s not even on their radar.” Alrighty then.

    Good

  146. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    So if Freddy gets traded then this is a great move for Phelps and his progress is not impeded and premature speculation is no longer a form of instant gratification?

    ==========================

    As I said, I wouldn’t trade Garcia either. But if they do and that clears the way for Phelps, then I would say that they did the right thing.

  147. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    “We were talking about now, not then.”

    But they both matter…..
    =========================
    would you rather have Montero here now or a jones/ibanez, rotational DH as they have now?

  148. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Yeah, because Freddy hasn’t been a good Yankee, nor has he helped the team at all.

    :roll:

    What have you done for me lately? Ooo, ooo, ooo yeah.

    No wonder some of you are so miserable all the time. Instead of appreciating what you have right in front of you, you’re always off on some mission to change things around.

    And that’s why you’ll remain miserable and will miss the best show in front of your noses. Because you’re NEVER going to have things work out the way your little fantasies play out.

    How sad not to be able to smell the roses because you’re too busy running away from them all the time.

    Tch tch.

    Later y’all.

  149. blake July 19th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    “would you rather have Montero here now or a jones/ibanez, rotational DH as they have now?”

    Montero because i have him for 5 more years after this…..and also because he could outperform them both in the 2nd half for all we know..

  150. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    As I said, I wouldn’t trade Garcia either. But if they do and that clears the way for Phelps, then I would say that they did the right thing.
    ============
    then you are in favor of the flip flop freddy felps move.

  151. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    would you rather have Montero here now or a jones/ibanez, rotational DH as they have now?

    =================================

    Montero, no questions asked…In fact, we probably wouldn’t be talking about trading for Upton…Or we would have a much better asset to trade for him. Upside and future are key…We are in a transitional phase, we need to build a new core.

  152. Bronx Jeers July 19th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    AJ’s only thrown 3 WP in 100 innings so far. He threw 25 in 190 last year. Trading him and getting Kuroda was sweet.

  153. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    and also because he could outperform them both in the 2nd half for all we know..
    =================
    all we know is what he have now and thats the best team in baseball, don’t be greedy, you could be wrong.

  154. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    We are in a transitional phase, we need to build a new core.
    ===================
    and of course montro is the key to it.

  155. blake July 19th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    “all we know is what he have now and thats the best team in baseball, don’t be greedy, you could be wrong.”

    Greed is good

  156. blake July 19th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Anyway….lets beat the As tonight!

  157. RadioKev July 19th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Uh…Montero has actually had a nice week since the all star break.

    Past 7 days? 11/24, 1HR, 8RBIs, 5Rs.

  158. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    how did it work out for Michael Douglas/Gordon Gecko in Wall St?

  159. astrocityfan July 19th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    So I’m at a minor league baseball and I see my first live base brawl! The guy who got hit took the bat to the mound ! Whole thing lasted ten minutes

  160. blake July 19th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    “how did it work out for Michael Douglas/Gordon Gecko in Wall St?”

    I havent seen the new one so I dont know.

  161. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Trisha,

    I am concerned with the future of the team…And I am enjoying very much this season…But I will criticize those moves that I find questionable…this doesn’t take away any enjoyment that I might have watching the team win…I actually enjoy thinking about the future and watching the team win at same time…I am just not on the FO knows best bandwagon

  162. blake July 19th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    “The guy who got hit took the bat to the mound !”

    Bad form! Thats almost as bad as fighting with your face mask on and then claiming to beat up Arod.

  163. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    I havent seen the new one so I dont know.
    ==========================
    but you saw the old one.

  164. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    I am just not on the FO knows best bandwagon
    ==============================
    so you think you know better than the FO?

  165. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    We are in a transitional phase, we need to build a new core.
    ===================
    and of course montro is the key to it.

    =================================

    There you go again…Far from it, but he could have had a very good part of it…Or he could have been traded for someone like Upton, to enhance the team now and for the future.

  166. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    There you go again…
    ==============
    Why? Don’t you go?

  167. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    I am just not on the FO knows best bandwagon
    ==============================
    so you think you know better than the FO?

    ================================

    No, I don’t think so…But I am not a blind follower

  168. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    No, I don’t think so…But I am not a blind follower
    ======================
    who are you implying is one?

  169. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    For those who need to read the last page of the novel, I’d say you’re plum out of luck.

    Ahem, nitpick

    I believe that should read “plumb out of luck” as in plumb bob. The other does not compute.

    But, carry on, enthusiastically.

  170. astrocityfan July 19th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Blake there were several ejections and I expect the batter will get a few games off. He actually brandished the bat at the pitcher then seem to realize what he was doing and dropped it as the benches cleared. The best part was the home plate ump knocking the guy down as he tried to get to the mound. Lol and the guy got knocked down twice, still got up and ran to the mound with the bat.

  171. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Yankees facing 3 rookie pitchers. Hopefully the hitters were doing their homework during the flight to Oakland because the A’s lead the AL in ERA.

  172. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Mick,

    Nobody…It’s just that since I was youngster, I was taught to look at all angles before making a decision.

  173. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    I was taught to look at all angles before making a decision.
    ==============================
    luis,
    gotcha, just don’t back yourself into a corner.

  174. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    Bad form! Thats almost as bad as fighting with your face mask on and then claiming to beat up Arod.

    ——————————-
    Yep, yep

    However next at bat – if the bat happened to slip out of your hands, helicoptering towards the pitcher’s mound, that would catch his attention and his shins.

    Hit stopper – right there.

  175. comet July 19th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    What happened to Quall’s? Hey there Luis,Blake, MTU and Trisha!

  176. rm July 19th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    I think they are showcasing Garcia. There are a few teams like Pitsburgh who unexpectedly have a chance at the playoffs but could use some good pitching depth like Freddy could provide to help get them there. If somebody will overpay for Freddy he is gone and Phelps gets to start until Andy gets back. If they don’t get an acceptible offer fo Garcia right away they will probably pitch him one more time before the trade deadline then give a few starts to Phelps after the trade deadline.

  177. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Hey Comet!

    Nothing, he still in the roster as far as I know

  178. Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Leaving The Parc 55 and catching the Bart Subway and Oakland bound

  179. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    rm,

    Your post is a very sensible one…But then why do they bring Phelps up with the team instead of leaving him stretched out in the minors?

  180. comet July 19th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Hey Luis how did they make room for Phelps then?

  181. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Leaving The Parc 55 and catching the Bart Subway and Oakland bound

    ==========================

    Lucky dog!!! ;)

  182. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Comet,

    They sent down DJ Mitchell

  183. mick July 19th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    But then why do they bring Phelps up with the team instead of leaving him stretched out in the minors?
    ===========
    at this moment , he is stretched out either way.

  184. rm July 19th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Luis,

    They don’t have anybody else to bring up if they need long releif in the next 2 or 3 games and a Garcia trade is not immenent I hope they send him back down to keep him stretched out.

  185. luis July 19th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Mick,

    If they keep on starting Garcia, he won’t be..If he was starting on the same days as Freddy did, what was the point?…If you add Girardi’s comments, it;s kind of baffling

  186. luis July 19th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    rm,

    They had Mitchell…If he is going to pitch mop up innings what’s the difference between the two?

  187. mick July 19th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    If they keep on starting Garcia, he won’t be.
    ====================
    luis, why can’t we wait and see?

  188. mick July 19th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    If you add Girardi’s comments, it;s kind of baffling
    ================================
    this applies for today only.

  189. luis July 19th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Was Quintana the WS pitcher in the Yankees minors?

  190. mick July 19th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    is it pre- game time yet, i cant stand this anymore…

  191. luis July 19th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Ok Mick, let’s wait and see…I hope they know what they are doing

  192. luis July 19th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Pre game notes :arrow:

  193. rm July 19th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Luis,

    They want Mitchel to get starts in the minors too. He wasn’t getting any playing time at all with the Yankees. Not really Joes fault. The situations they want to put him in , low leverage long releif, haven’t happened much lately.

  194. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    The situations they want to put him in , low leverage long releif, haven’t happened much lately.

    Thats why the Yankees should not be putting starting pitching prospects in that role, because they don’t utilize them. Same thing happened with Noesi.

  195. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Jose Quintana pitching a one-hitter! White Sox lead 1-0. Always a scary score, especially the deeper you get into the game.

    Did you know that the Suxers are hitting .283 with RISP, are first in runs in the majors – and are 10.5 games out of first place? The Yanks are hitting .239 with RISP, are 3rd in runs in the majors – and are in first place? I’d say that the RISP tome is probably overdone.

    ************

    luis, I wasn’t targetting you specifically. And yes I know you enjoy games. But I think your “concern” for the future is probably both unnecessary and out of place since you have nothing to do with the decisions that are going to be made, and the Yankees have done okay without any help from their fans – and will continue to.

    I understand fans liking to suggest trades and wonder about what will happen, but when it gets to the level of actual worry, I think fans need to step back and remember it’s a game and you root for the team because you love them – win or lose. And again – nobody’s concern or worry about the future is going to make a whit of difference, really. So why not just enjoy the show?

    JMO – but I think it’s a good one.

    ************

    OMG I hope someone else is watching this Sux game!!!!! White Sox just got out of nobody out, bases-loaded jam!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  196. rm July 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    But Phelps is a little different. He has earned the right to higher leverage situations so it is much more likely they will be able to get him some innings.

  197. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    But Phelps is a little different. He has earned the right to higher leverage situations so it is much more likely they will be able to get him some innings.

    Some, but he needs to pitch 150+ innings. He only got 110 last year. He only has 14 in the minors this year.

  198. luis July 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    rm July 19th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    But Phelps is a little different. He has earned the right to higher leverage situations so it is much more likely they will be able to get him some innings.

    ====================================

    He needs to build up his innings…If he doesn’t get above 150 innings this season, he would have two seasons in a row without doing it, we already know what happened the last time we did this kind of thing ( Hughes )…He had a lost season after the new jumo in innings.

  199. rm July 19th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Hopefully they will find a way to get Phelps the innings he needs. If he gets 5-10 innings before the trade deadline and he starts every 5th day at either the Major or Minor league level after that he can probably get the innings he needs. He has 41 inning with the Yankees so he would like to have another 100 innings or so this year. It will be tough but it is possible

  200. igotid88 July 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Why are people saying “let’s wait a couple of years before we talk about how good Montero is or will be?” Why aren’t you waiting 2 or 3 years to see if Trout will still be any good or Harper?

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