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Pitching matchups in Oakland

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 19, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Tonight
RHP Freddy Garcia (4-2, 5.25)
vs.
RHP A.J. Griffin (1-0, 2.63)
10:05 p.m., YES Network

Friday
RHP Ivan Nova (10-4, 4.18)
vs.
LHP Tommy Milone (9-6, 3.54)
10:05 p.m., YES Network

Saturday
RHP Phil Hughes (9-7, 4.22)
vs.
RHP Jarrod Parker (6-4, 3.16)
9:05 p.m., YES Network

Sunday
LHP CC Sabathia (10-3, 3.27)
vs.
RHP Bartolo Colon (6-8, 3.88)
4:15 p.m., YES Network

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279 Responses to “Pitching matchups in Oakland”

  1. Hassey July 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    CC and Bartolo to leave KFC on the back fo the mound for between innings

  2. Hassey July 19th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    wait a sec – does that joke make me a “fat-ist”?

  3. ac1 July 19th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Yes!

  4. blake July 19th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    5-2 west coaster sounds about right

  5. Shame Spencer July 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Drat! Chad does this to me all the time.. repost:

    Shame Spencer July 19th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    JF doesn’t always make his points in a way that’s diplomatic but if you look at the top jersey sales for MLB players I believe more 3/4ths are of white players. This was brought up a few months if not a year ago so I don’t have a link but there was a discussion then about whether the top jerseys sold reflects that people on some level, conscious or not, prefer players that reflect their ethnic background (the top jerseys sold were most certainly not reflective of the most talented players in the game, which is what this discussion was born from). Fem and JAP have also mentioned the history of projecting attitude issues/work ethic issues on Latin and minority players at a higher rate than that of white players.

    I have an uncle who is a Mets fan that swears their team is better this year because more white guys play for them. I’m obviously embarrassed by that thought process but sadly he’s not alone. Minya had something to do with the perception but either way it’s pretty gross to think people theorize this way. (And my uncle, unsurprisingly, insists he’s not racist in any respect, btw).

    Just food for thought.

  6. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    “CC and Bartolo to leave KFC on the back fo the mound for between innings”
    ====================================

    “add in a couple of brewski’s and i’m in!” J. Beckett

  7. CountryClub July 19th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    If the Yanks are going to tie the record for 3 runs in a game, they’ll have to do it against King Felix on Tuesday.

    BTW, River Ave Blues mentioned on their site that the Yanks have also scored at least 5 runs in a game for 10 straight. The record is 18.

  8. ac1 July 19th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    We aren’t scared of Felix anymore….
    2 of the last 3 times the Yankees faced him I feel like they did pretty well.

  9. Hassey July 19th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Felix may not be on Seattle by Tuesday?

  10. m July 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Offense is pretty consistent now. Right? Right?!

    I was reading about the Oakland win this morning. Reddick gave Holt a whipped cream pie in tge locker room. Reddick yelled, “how dare you avoid me!”. Nice moment for Holt, a rookie apparently.

    Anyway, Reddick is having a nice season with the A’s. Good to see players take off after they’re release from Fenway Penitentiary. :P

  11. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Minya had something to do with the perception but either way it’s pretty gross to think people theorize this way. (And my uncle, unsurprisingly, insists he’s not racist in any respect, btw).

    Just like with sexism, I think it is possible for people to have underlying racist beliefs or to use subtle racism without being the kind of virulent ‘racist’ that is often caricatured on TV. For every 1 racist that is actively seeking to subdue/alienate/whatever minorities, there will be 10 people who simply employ systemic racism that is part of the culture they have been brought up in or that has been reinforced via entertainment/education/literature.

    This is just like how the atlanta braves radio announcers can be racist for their discussion of hiroki kuroda’s japanese heritage without really being RACIST. There is some subtly to these issues!

    Dog whistle racism is popular in MLB. Dominican players get the ‘lazy’ or ‘unfocused’ labels which is just a subtle call to racists. White players are always ‘scrappy’, ‘gritty’, or they ‘play the game the right way’, or are ‘students of the game’.

  12. Shame Spencer July 19th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Keep the updates coming on Romine… very curious to see how he rebounds. Back issues for a catcher really scare me. Not sure he’s a long term option, but you never know. He’s young so hopefully he heals like Joba.

  13. blake July 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    “Felix may not be on Seattle by Tuesday?”

    Nah he’ll be there…..Jack Z apparently is going to hold Felix even after the ship sinks.

  14. Hassey July 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    I’d also imagine that Reddick is enjoying his time with the Oakland fans in RF…they’re really right on top of you there, from all directions. I’ve sat on the fb line right behind the visitor’s BP, and I could have reached out myself to put a chewing gum bubble on anyone’s hat

  15. Bronx Jeers July 19th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    JF doesn’t always make his points in a way that’s diplomatic but if you look at the top jersey sales for MLB players I believe more 3/4ths are of white players

    ———————–

    Jeter has to be among the top sellers. Is he considered white or black ?

  16. Hassey July 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Jeter is considered pinstriped

  17. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Offense is pretty consistent now. Right? Right?!

    During their 3 runs or more streak they’ve scored 5.25 runs per game, and in the past 22 games they’ve hit near .300 with RISP. They have a much more balanced attack during the streak, and so no surprise they are winning alot and scoring many runs. Keep it up, Yanks.

    HRs are hits, so hitting lots of HRs is great and it should not be considered a negative. The absence of other things is the negative. Like hitting .240 with lots of HRs? The HRs are the only good part! If they were hitting .280 with lots of HRs that would be much better. In the first case its the lack of other hits that is an issue, not that the hits they are getting are HRs. (I assume most of these writers are postulating that if they hit less HRs everything else would increase,but I don’t think that is a given)

  18. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Eduardo Nunez gets his first rehab hit…a solo homer to tie the game for Tampa GCL. Romine is hitless in 3 at bats, allowed 2 steals.

  19. Shame Spencer July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Bronx Jeers July 19th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    JF doesn’t always make his points in a way that’s diplomatic but if you look at the top jersey sales for MLB players I believe more 3/4ths are of white players

    ———————–

    Jeter has to be among the top sellers. Is he considered white or black ?

    ——————-

    He is and was counted amongst the few minority players listed. I really wish I could remember the article and who posted it. It generated a good discussion. I don’t think this stuff should be considered out of bounds just because people get mad when they talk about it. A great man once said, “Out of anger comes controversy, out of controversy comes conversation, out of conversation comes action.”

  20. Shame Spencer July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    This is when video of minor league games would be helpful.. I’d love to see how Romine is moving around out there.

  21. blake July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    In an attempt to change the subject

    Dbacks get: Chase Headly, Dellin Betances, Tyler Austin
    Padres get: Phil Hughes + Dbacks prospect(s).
    Yankees get: Justin Upton.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Just a quick drive-by to say hi all, happy to see Chad back, and Freddy is listed as tonight’s starter.

    :)

    Carry on!

  23. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    That trade is racist, too many white players getting moved. No one wants a black player?

  24. CountryClub July 19th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
    Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria! Jose Molina just stole a base!

  25. Shame Spencer July 19th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    MLB doesn’t care about black puppets! /Gob’d

  26. m July 19th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Where are these white jerseys selling?

    On the two coasts, gotta be Kemp, Jeter, A-Rod, Ortiz. In Florida, might have Ramirez and Reyes. Does Longoria count? See it gets muddled because sone people look white, but have ethnic names.

    I wouldn’t read too much into it. Baseball has a lot if white players and a lot if white fans. I’ve seen plenty of white fans wearing non-white jerseys.

    If Ortiz isn’t piping up about it, it don’t exist. :P

  27. Bronx Jeers July 19th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    “Out of anger comes controversy, out of controversy comes conversation, out of conversation comes action.”

    —————————–

    Great quote.

    Unfortunately the only “action” we get in here is more crappy comments. :wink:

  28. m July 19th, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Where are the white jerseys selling is rhetorical. I have an idea of where the bulk of them are selling.

    Add Pujols to the left coast. The merchandisers must love these big trades. Lots of new Pujols and Reyes fans.

  29. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    1. Derek Jeter, New York Yankees
    2. Cliff Lee, Philadelphia Phillies
    3. *Albert Pujols, LA Angels of Anaheim
    4. Josh Hamilton, Texas Rangers
    5. Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies
    6. Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants
    7. Dustin Pedroia, Boston Red Sox
    8. Ryan Braun, Milwaukee Brewers
    9. *Hunter Pence, Philadelphia Phillies
    10. Buster Posey, San Francisco Giants
    11. Chase Utley, Philadelphia Phillies
    12. Joe Mauer, Minnesota Twins
    13. Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers
    14. Adrian Gonzalez, Boston Red Sox
    15. Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees
    16. Ian Kinsler, Texas Rangers
    17. Robinson Cano, New York Yankees
    18. Mariano Rivera, New York Yankees
    19. Carl Crawford, Boston Red Sox
    20. David Freese, St. Louis Cardinals

    7 out of 20 ethnic players on the top 20 list. 5 out of 20 if you don’t count A-rod or Jeter.

  30. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 19th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Here’s something juicy!

    I always thought she was TPT anyway. Never understood how Benson ended up with her, unless he’s short of a full deck too.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....LwO1UA7H4K

  31. m July 19th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Er. Trades and signings.

  32. spidanyc July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
    In an attempt to change the subject

    Dbacks get: Chase Headly, Dellin Betances, Tyler Austin
    Padres get: Phil Hughes + Dbacks prospect(s).
    Yankees get: Justin Upton.

    ——————————————————————————————-

    I rather give up Nova and hold on to Betances (give him another year to get his head straight). My trade offer would be:

    Dbacks get: Chase Headly, Phelps, Tyler Austin
    Padres get: Nova + Dbacks prsopect/s
    Yankees get: Justin Upton

  33. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    If you can freely interchange Hughes & Nova in that trade, then there is no reason to give up Nova, because he is controlled longer and for cheaper. Hughes you can get back in a year if you want anyways.

  34. m July 19th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Wow, Ortiz isn’t on that list. Guess those stupid jersey commercials aren’t working.

  35. kd July 19th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource

    Q: Bigger star potential, Ravel Santana or Mason Williams? A: Santana, tools to be a superstar baseball player.

    Anyone know if his ankle has healed?

  36. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    kd July 19th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource

    Q: Bigger star potential, Ravel Santana or Mason Williams? A: Santana, tools to be a superstar baseball player.

    Anyone know if his ankle has healed?
    —————

    He’s playing in Staten Island.

  37. m July 19th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Looked at the AL WC standings last night. Not counting the two teams that hold the WC right now, there are 5 teams within 1 games of the WC. 6 teams within 3 games. Basically if you’re above .500, you’ve got a chance. Was shocked to see them clustered like that. Guess there’s the Yankees, Rangers, and everyone else. KC, Seattle, and the Twins have no shot at all. Otherwise it’s up for grabs. lots of parity in the area of mediocrity.

  38. spidanyc July 19th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    How about a 4-way trade

    Yankees get: King Felix and Justin Upton
    Dbacks get: Chase Headly and Jose Ramirez
    Mariners get: Swisher, Tyler Austin, Eduardo Nunez and Ramon Flores
    Padres get: Nova, Corban Joseph and Brandon Laird

  39. kd July 19th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    thanks chip.

    living up to potential?

  40. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    @npbtracker

    High schooler Shohei Ohtani, perhaps heir apparent to Yu Darvish, hit 160 kmph (100mph) on the gun in a HS game.

  41. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    HAL is already vetoing a bid for Ohtani :x

  42. Nick in SF July 19th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    “7. Dustin Pedroia, Boston Red Sox”

    Hobbit is a different race.

  43. Barry July 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    This is a disgusting topic. Drop it, please. And, you can do the same thing for football and basketball, but with different results.

  44. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Ravel is struggling mightily in his return to baseball. .235 .343 .318 .661 in Staten.

  45. The Return of Stoneburner July 19th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    HAL is already vetoing a bid for Ohtani

    **********

    Good, if he is antyhing like Darvish, we do not want him and his 3.96 ERA, 1.394 WHIP or 113 ERA+ – all numbers Kuroda bests. And Kuroda’s on a shorter contract.

    Hey, how’s that Justin Maxwell vs. Andruw Jones thing working out for you and your oversight that Andruw Jones plays better in the second half than the first half given his performance last year and what we are seeing again.

  46. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Good, if he is antyhing like Darvish, we do not want him and his 3.96 ERA, 1.394 WHIP or 113 ERA+ – all numbers Kuroda bests. And Kuroda’s on a shorter contract.

    Darvish is 25, strikes out 10 per 9 with 4 nasty pitches, and makes 10 million per year for 6 years. Great deal. Kuroda is 37 and isn’t liable to stay good in the future or even continue to be on the team after this year. Maxwell is doing fine in HOU, and given his contract and team control going forward keeping him could have been a good move.

    Please direct your insanity to someone else.

  47. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Also you missed Jose Ramirez’ plus change up the other day, sorry you missed that, bro.

  48. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    In an attempt to change the subject

    Dbacks get: Chase Headly, Dellin Betances, Tyler Austin
    Padres get: Phil Hughes + Dbacks prospect(s).
    Yankees get: Justin Upton.
    —————–

    Blake,

    I can’t see Arizona giving up the best player and prospects in a trade where they’re getting back Headley, 1 prospect who is still pretty far away and another prospect who struggled to adjust to AAA.

    I think it would have to be additional Yankee farm hands going with Hughes to San Diego. Though from a cost standpoint the Padres might prefer Nova to Hughes.

  49. j9d July 19th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    Surpised at how low the A’s pitcher’s ERAs are…all sub 4.0

  50. Shame Spencer July 19th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Guys…. why don’t you like Hughes?? ;)

    Hughes is the new Brett Gardner!

  51. Nick in SF July 19th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    The A’s pitchers all had lower ERAs before the Yanks rolled into town the last time too. :mad:

    The Yanks will be facing a stronger A’s squad this time around, however.

    Freddy vs. Cespedes, a must-see confrontation!

  52. j9d July 19th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    Let’s hope the Yanks give them each a nice ERA bump again.

  53. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    DJ Mitchell in to relieve O’Conner to start the 5th inning. Walked the first batter, struck out the second, pop out and single. runners on 2nd and 3rd after a single and a butchered play by Cervelli. Mitchell gets out of the inning unscored on.

  54. blake July 19th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    “I think it would have to be additional Yankee farm hands going with Hughes to San Diego. Though from a cost standpoint the Padres might prefer Nova to Hughes.”

    Yea the Yanks probably would have ro add more players to make SD happy…..however I think Hughes would kill it in Petco……

  55. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    “I think it would have to be additional Yankee farm hands going with Hughes to San Diego. Though from a cost standpoint the Padres might prefer Nova to Hughes.”

    Yea the Yanks probably would have ro add more players to make SD happy…..however I think Hughes would kill it in Petco……
    ———————

    Probably, but I don’t think San Diego wants to pay him. Nova would probably kill it there too given the size of that park and do it for a lot less green.

  56. blake July 19th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    “Probably, but I don’t think San Diego wants to pay him. Nova would probably kill it there too given the size of that park and do it for a lot less green.”

    Probably……I dont have a good idea of what SD would want most for Headley…..

  57. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    It’s just killing you to not be able figure a way to run Hughes out of town, isn’t it? He makes no money, won’t make much next year and is doing his job, well. Who’s replacing him in the heat of a pennant race? A rookie? NYYs aren’t running two rookies out in the rotation and although there will be much crying over it, neither carcia nor Kuroda are sure things to return and Pettitte may or many not return or even pitch to his normal numbers.

  58. I Am Winning July 19th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    spidanyc,

    So the Yanks get the steal of the trade?

    A good trade proposal is not one that Cashman would accept, which he would accept that one in permanent black marker, but a trade that also works for other teams, and would be APPROVED by other GMs. In which, every single GM would block that trade, other than Cashman.

  59. luis July 19th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Good afternoon,

    Trading Nova or Hughes would make a strong part of the team in to a weakness. Not happening, especially if you on top of it, you have to gut the farm. And for those that are counting on Pineda, lets wait until he is healthy and see what he has. Nova is an ace in the making and Hughes a very good number 3 or better.

  60. luis July 19th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Felix is not a good trade target anymore…Too many innings on that arm, he is good and it´s going to be good, but nothing close to what he once was. Besides, his decline has already started, by the age of 30 he might be done.

  61. Against All Odds July 19th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    No one is running Hughes out of town

  62. Nick in SF July 19th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    Melky triples, waves, and Braves fans are more pissed off.

  63. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    “Probably, but I don’t think San Diego wants to pay him. Nova would probably kill it there too given the size of that park and do it for a lot less green.”

    Probably……I dont have a good idea of what SD would want most for Headley…..
    ——————-

    No clue – they seem pretty good with pitching, have a good catcher – maybe help at SS or in the OF – would they be interested in a combo of Nova + Noonie for Headley?

  64. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    “It’s just killing you to not be able figure a way to run Hughes out of town, isn’t it?”

    Ive supported Hughes as much as anybody on this site save maybe Pat M….why cant you folllow conversations?

  65. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    luis July 19th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Good afternoon,

    Trading Nova or Hughes would make a strong part of the team in to a weakness. Not happening, especially if you on top of it, you have to gut the farm. And for those that are counting on Pineda, lets wait until he is healthy and see what he has. Nova is an ace in the making and Hughes a very good number 3 or better.
    ————

    Luis,

    No one is saying let’s go make that trade – the question is more along the lines of what it would take from a Yankee standpoint to make that trade happen.

  66. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    And you could replaced Hughes with Phelps or make a trade for a Liriano or somebody if you had to….personally I think adding Upton to the lineup makes the Yankees better than having Hughes in the rotation……and that was the point of my post….nothing to do with “running Hughes out of town”……

    we dont know that Hughes would even be in the playoff rotation anyway……

  67. Joe from Long Island July 19th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    i don’t think the yankees should trade for felix hernandez, not unless the price becomes too good to ignore. i’m concerned that his arm will show the wear and tear, and he will decline, and no longer be that elite pitcher that we all think of.

  68. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Mitchell was good and bad in his 2nd inning. strikes out first two hitters and then botches a comebacker to him that ruled a hit, but picks the ball up and throws the ball down the right field line, but, gets bailed out by Joseph who gets the rebound and throws out the runner trying to go to 2nd base.

  69. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    I still think that the best answer for this team – assuming Gardner doesn’t return – is trade a second or third level guy to Chicago for DeJesus.

    No gutting of the farm system. No mortgaging the future. No rushing guys from the minors or picking up someone off the scrap heap. Just a decent prospect with a low ceiling (Corban Joseph?) for a solid, but unspectacular, veteran who would fill a nice role on this team as a guy who can start in LF, play all three OF spots and provide insurance if you don’t keep Swisher next year or sit on the bench if one of the Almonte’s shows he’s ready to play in the majors next spring.

  70. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    liriano stinks and we dont know if phelps can hold down a rotation spot, he’s only started 3 major league games. if you’re going to contemplate a trade that includes moving hughes or nova you need to come up with a solid replacement for that rotaion spot, there’s still 8 weeks of regular season to cover.

    im not saying don’t trade him, just that trading him leaves a big hole in the rotation that needs to be filled.

  71. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    And you could replaced Hughes with Phelps or make a trade for a Liriano or somebody if you had to….personally I think adding Upton to the lineup makes the Yankees better than having Hughes in the rotation……and that was the point of my post….nothing to do with “running Hughes out of town”……

    we dont know that Hughes would even be in the playoff rotation anyway……

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Why can’t you follow the converation? NYYs not going to put a rookie into the heat of a pennant race. He’s not as good as Hughes…not yet. That also knocks the strength of having some depth into a rat hole. what about next year’s rotation? You’re going on a fantasy trip that getting Upton will cure everything. He can’t even cure his issues in a no pressure town. Check back with me when he can deal with that. and, if he just needs a change a scenery, what will he need in one or two more years? A change of countries?

  72. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Upton is a tremendous talent and you don’t let an up and down pitcher that will be gone in a year stop you from acquiring him.

  73. LGY July 19th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    The Yankees are 10 games up in the division.

    They can afford to trade their 5th starter for Justin Upton.

  74. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    The only way Hughes is even possibly pitching in the playoffs is if Pettitte doesn’t come back.

  75. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Liriano’s 5 runs a game will really play well in NY, won’t it?

  76. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    The Yankees have more options for 5th starter for 2013 than they have options for RFer going forward.

  77. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Liriano last 10 games, 63 IP 2.85 ERA

  78. LGY July 19th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    The heat of a pennant race?

    Who exactly are the Yankees racing with?

  79. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    You two Billiebers better go protect Uncle Bill. After his comments, he’s going to need it.

  80. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    No one cares about Bill James except you, which I find strange.

  81. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    “They can afford to trade their 5th starter for Justin Upton.”

    No no….because Phelps might cost them their 10 game lead.

    If the playoffs started today would you rather have Upton in the lineup or Hughes considering that you also have Sabathia, Pettite, Kuroda, and Nova for the 4 spots.

  82. luis July 19th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Chip,

    Point taken…That´s why I don´think it would be smart to trade for Upton…You need to gut the farm and the current roster and on top of it, pay a very expensive contract…As generational as Upton´s bat might be (This remains to be seen), the price is too steep. Especially if you take in to account that this team will enter a transitional period, because the core of the team needs to be replaced in the not so distant future. Even though, Upton would help this team on the short term. Leaving the farm barren and the roster deprived of their more cost control assets ( Hughes or Nova ) would hurt them more in the long run. So thanks but no thanks

  83. Cashmoney July 19th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    what a delusional moron…

  84. UnKnown July 19th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Liriano is almost as associated with going to the Yankees as Wandy Rodriguez.

    Wandy I would think about, but Liriano is dumpster diving.

  85. Nick in SF July 19th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Montero finally hit #9!!!

  86. Against All Odds July 19th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    what about next year’s rotation?

    ———————–

    Some combination of CC, Kuroda, Andy, Nova, Pineda, Phelps, other minor league pitchers, guys on 1 yr deals, someone they trade for with a yr and half until free agency, etc.

  87. luis July 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    By the way…This is one of the reasons I never liked the trade of Montero…

  88. LGY July 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    GB7

    Can you please come up with some new material other than this robotic Bill James retort?

    Every time you say something, should I claim you worship the Salvation Army because you’re homophobic?

  89. luis July 19th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    Nick,

    He is getting hot…last night he went 2 for 5 with a couple of RBI´s. Today he went deep…i am pretty sure that you are going to collect your bet.

  90. Cashmoney July 19th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    blake, you better seek shelter lol…in case the wrath of lohud strikes you for you insolence…

  91. UnKnown July 19th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Sweeeet Coney and Singleton doing the broadcasts on the West Coast. HooRay for that

  92. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    while im optimistic about pettitte, don’t write him into the PS rotation in ink just yet. he’s got a long and potentially dicey road to travel before he’s back. he’s 40, a setback isnt out of the question and even a couple of week’s setback like a pulled muscle could push his rehab into september after the regular minor league season ends. remember 2 years ago when he pulled his hammy and expected to miss 2 weeks and missed over a month.

    thinning the rotation could be risky, the yankees are only 7 games ahead of the white sox and that one game play-in.

  93. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    “blake, you better seek shelter lol…in case the wrath of lohud strikes you for you insolence…”

    I have my Don Zimmer helmet on ;)

  94. luis July 19th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Cashmoney,

    :lol: Blake and I usually we are on the same page…Even if we disagree, we respect each other a great deal…So he is not getting any wrath from me ;)

  95. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Montero is going to hit….just a matter of time….whether he catches or not I have no idea….but he’ll hit and if he was somewhere besides hitter death land he’d hit more and faster most likely

  96. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Mitchell finishes off the 5 inning relief appearance, allowing 4 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts. 63 pitches, 43 strikes. He did make things interesting, though. 2-0 Scranton

  97. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    “Sweeeet Coney and Singleton doing the broadcasts on the West Coast. HooRay for that”

    :)
    kinda wish they could’ve brought lou along with them…

  98. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    “Point taken…That´s why I don´think it would be smart to trade for Upton…You need to gut the farm and the current roster and on top of it, pay a very expensive contract”

    my proposal didn’t gut anything though….the only thing wrong with it is that the other teams probably wouldn’t do it

  99. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    thinning the rotation could be risky, the yankees are only 7 games ahead of the white sox and that one game play-in.

    What? If anything the Yankees should lose some so they don’t have to face the wild card.

  100. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    I’d rather have Liriano than Wandy….he’s got more upside….he’s only around for the rest of the season….and he should cost less to acquire….not saying I’d want either….but at least Liriano has shut down stuff….he might could help in the pen if not the rotation…..not that I’d really want either.

  101. luis July 19th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Blake,

    I didn´t read your proposal..I was talking more in general terms on what would it take to land Upton. ;)

  102. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    “blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
    Montero is going to hit….just a matter of time….”
    ===================
    tell that to justin smoak.

  103. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Yeah…that Liriano is a rotation rock…just like Jiminez.

  104. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    which is better?

    outfield: Ibanez, Granderson, Swisher
    rotation: Sabathia, Kuroda, Nova, Hughes, Pettite

    or

    outfield: Upton, Granderson, Swisher
    rotation: Sabathia, Kuroda, Nova, Pettite, Phelps/Liriano

    remember that only 4 guys will make the post season rotation.

  105. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    The Yankees are 10 games out of any kind of play in. If they are the #1 seed they have to fly out to LA or Detroit to play the first 2 ALDS games away. Which sucks. No thank you.

  106. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    liriano averaging 5 bb/9ip doesnt look like a bp prospect to me.

  107. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    “tell that to justin smoak.”

    Montero is better than smoak

  108. Cashmoney July 19th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    realistically, something along the line what chip suggested with dejesus could be the most likely move for the Yanks… but heh we all killing time on a baseball forum, aint nothing wrong with daydreaming luis. carry on gents, i am out.

  109. Nick in SF July 19th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    I’m feeling better about my Smoak bet… just needs three more. Montero needs 11.

  110. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    “Yeah…that Liriano is a rotation rock…just like Jiminez.”

    who said he was a rock…..he does have a 3.6 ERA since the start of May though.

  111. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    someone (olney?) suggested nate sheirholz for the yankees.

  112. Against All Odds July 19th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    The 2nd one is better and it’s for now as well as long term

  113. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    nunez could help the giants.

  114. blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Liriano had a horrendous April….he hasn’t been too bad since those first 3 starts……actually he’s been pretty good since then.

  115. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Why would we trade for .250 .314 .400 .714 Nate Schierholtz?

  116. UnKnown July 19th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    ——-

    I was thinking the exact same thing but did not want to say it. I hope Andy can come through though.

  117. Eroc July 19th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Angels/Texas are in a pennant race. STL/CIN/PIT are in a pennant race. LAD/SF and ATL/WSH are in pennant races.

    Yanks are 10 games clear of a playoff spot, they are not in a pennant race. They can tinker with any part of their team and will still win the division going away. In fact, this year would be ideal to do it.

  118. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    i was just passing on a suggestion i read. i dont really know much about sheirholz other than his stat line.

  119. Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Just reading the morning posts here and I just have to ask Jerkafce this…..Do you really believe the crap you post regarding this imaginary race issue or worse yet, do you really expect us adults to believe your rants ???? You must truly suffer from either low self asteem or you really did hate too many hits to the head during your playground career in Dodgeball……..You leap to racial injustice at the blink of an eye or the misspelling of a Japanese noodle type……..Just stick to baseball, that in itself can prove to be a challenge

  120. Yank1 July 19th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    The Yankees are 10 games out of any kind of play in. If they are the #1 seed they have to fly out to LA or Detroit to play the first 2 ALDS games away. Which sucks. No thank you.

    ———-

    This year needs to be one of those years where Girardi takes the foot off the gas in September. They have no incentive to get the top seed, in fact, it reduces their chances of getting out of the first round if they do get the #1 seed

  121. UnKnown July 19th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    I think Liriano has also been facing some weaker lineups. But I could totally be wrong on this, I have not researched it. Just from what team I have been seeing the Twins play.

    By the way Blake I would take scenario two without a doubt. But scenario two will be costly and probably will hurt.

  122. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....ltz-72332/

    here is a good break down….I don’t think he’s much if any better than what they have to be honest…..

  123. luis July 19th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    which is better?

    outfield: Ibanez, Granderson, Swisher
    rotation: Sabathia, Kuroda, Nova, Hughes, Pettite

    or

    outfield: Upton, Granderson, Swisher
    rotation: Sabathia, Kuroda, Nova, Pettite, Phelps/Liriano

    remember that only 4 guys will make the post season rotation.

    ===========================

    Blake,

    No doubt that the one with Upton in the outfield…He would help tremendously in this season…My problem is with the long term and what kind of assets we would have to surrender…I am a believer that the core has to be home grown

  124. austinmac July 19th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    I understand Liriano has an injury and inconsistency history, but when on he is very good. Note the 25 Ks in the last 13 innings. He could be helpful. Wandy does not have enough stuff the pitch in the AL successfully. Plus Wandy is paid more.

  125. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    You know, this blog is fun to read. Constant proposals to improve the best team in baseball by acquiring this one or that one, usually at the cost of at least 1/5 or more of our rotation, trading the farm and the future for OK but inconsistent guys, De Jesus, even. “Generational” bats (I’ve seen a few: Williams, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Rose, and a few others) squandered, and so on.

    I don’t have a clue if there will be a trade involving the Yankees before the deadline, but the Yankees are dealing from strength. They do not need anything, and if they do, they’ll catch it off the waiver wire. Hyperactive trading activity is not in our interests now, and the offseason will take care of itself. Still fun to read, though.

  126. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    “My problem is with the long term and what kind of assets we would have to surrender…I am a believer that the core has to be home grown”

    well yea…which is why I was trying to think up a way they could get him without totally destroying the farm system…….I don’t know if they could or not….

  127. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Just reading the morning posts here and I just have to ask Jerkafce this…..Do you really believe the crap you post regarding this imaginary race issue or worse yet, do you really expect us adults to believe your rants ???? You must truly suffer from either low self asteem or you really did hate too many hits to the head during your playground career in Dodgeball……..You leap to racial injustice at the blink of an eye or the misspelling of a Japanese noodle type……..Just stick to baseball, that in itself can prove to be a challenge

    Pat M, it is unsurprising that a product of an older generation is not really in tune with the issues of today. I was unaware that low self esteem makes people point out sexism or racism when it exists. Thank you for that insightful comment! You do not think that 2 southern gentlemen making fun of how asian words sound or pairing together 2 players based on their race is racist? There are degrees of racism. It does not have to be RACIST. it can just be racist. That stuff exists. I leap to racial injustice in the blink of an eye? So because I mentioned it offhand twice I am ‘leaping to it in the blink of an eye’? I make 2 throw away comments and certain types of people (old ones) seem to latch onto them as imagined slights. That is pretty illuminating. Just like DONNYBROOK defending the sexism of wrestling is illuminating. Or the jersey sales of MLB. or the code words that some beat writers use exclusively when talking about minority players.

    I’m sorry you’re too immature to talk about these topics. Or too blind. Whatever, you can continue being a creepy old guy with GB7 about your apparently college aged pool cleaning ladies.

  128. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    The Yanks are in good shape this year….they have a 10 game lead….which is why it’s a good time to focus on if they can strengthen the current team and at the same time solve some issues for next year.

    Next year Swisher will be gone…..and everybody will be a year older…..I certainly hope the front office isn’t sitting around tickled pink about how great things are now and not thinking about the future…..because when the future gets here it’s the present…..and they have some issues moving forward that potentially could be addressed by making trades now.

  129. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Looking at that RAB article he seems to be pretty decent vs righties, so might be worth a look to push Ibanez back to DH. Not really my favorite type of player (no walks)

  130. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Jeff Nelson said on the radio today that the Yankees didn’t need to do anything because Ibanez wasn’t much of a step down defensively from Gardner in LF.

  131. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    The Yankees cannot procrastinate until 2014 to deal with 2014. They could be letting good options pass them by (like aforementioned Upton)

  132. DONNYBROOK July 19th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Economically, a home grown Core is needed to meet the $189 Mill. But winning a Championship does Not require a Core. Dynasties in the Days of Bud are now a myth. The easier it is to make the playoffs, the tougher it is to have a Dynasty Run.

  133. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    which is better?

    outfield: Ibanez, Granderson, Swisher
    rotation: Sabathia, Kuroda, Nova, Hughes, Pettite

    or

    outfield: Upton, Granderson, Swisher
    rotation: Sabathia, Kuroda, Nova, Pettite, Phelps/Liriano

    remember that only 4 guys will make the post season rotation.
    ——————

    You make a good point – but when was the last time Cashman made an in-season blockbuster like what is being proposed here?

    Bobby Abreu?

    It doesn’t mean not doing it is the right thing or that it doesn’t merit being discussed, but it does add an ingredient to the mix – which is even if the Yankees could find a way to make it happen, and even if the D’Backs really want to move Upton and even if Upton would accept a deal to NY…would Brian Cashman make that kind of move or would he prefer to tinker around the edges? I tend to think that he’s more of the tinkerer in season and saves his big moves for the winter.

  134. luis July 19th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    BRB

  135. jacksquat July 19th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    You can’t trade Hughes, he’s the only white guy in the rotation!

    Unless you replace him with Phelps.

    (that’s a joke, just in case someone doesn’t get it)

  136. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    5 AL teams are going to start the PS 0-0, the 10 game lead means nothing after the last RS game. No team is a lock and no team is perfect. Improvement for this PS and next year need to be explored before players start moving around the leagues. we’re just speculating on the possibilites, nothing wrong with that. you can bet the FO is doing much the same only with alot of information we dont have.

  137. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    “I tend to think that he’s more of the tinkerer in season and saves his big moves for the winter.”

    Oh I agree….but I think this is somewhat of a rare situation and Upton may not be available this winter….. I do doubt the Yankees do anything big…..they don’t need to really and they have tended to not force the issue when unnecessary the last few years.

  138. luis July 19th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Chip,

    Which makes sense, since the moves in the off season tend to be cheaper. Moves on the TD, are fuel for the need to get better for a championship run, therefore some teams are willing to overpay. Later guys

  139. Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Face…..You just made my point…….For a person who has displayed on occassions to be gifted with a great aptitude, you post some rather foolish comments……..Trust me Face, you have no clue towhat prejuidice really is……..You should have been around in the 60′s and early 70′s……Ignorance will always be a factor regarding how people view others, however it’s light years better than what it was just 40 years ago……And yes The College Coed Pool personel were quite pleasant to chat with this morning………Both dressed in matching lime outfits….

  140. Mike_Boston July 19th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    What’s the big deal with being the #1 seed this year. Sure you play the 1st 2 games on the road but you get the last 3 at home. If a team can’t handle that they don’t belong in the next round.

  141. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    the starting lineup/rotation for the 98 yankees had 5 (out of 14) starters who were home grown.

    home grown is nice but irrelevant.

  142. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    The Yanks are in good shape this year….they have a 10 game lead….which is why it’s a good time to focus on if they can strengthen the current team and at the same time solve some issues for next year.
    ————–

    I agree with you – my guess though would be that Cashman would rather make a major Upton splash in the winter than in the Summer – doing it in the offseason lets him make additional moves to restock whatever depth a deal like this would cost him.

  143. Yank1 July 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal
    Can confirm @jaysonst report that #Phillies are at 6 years on Hamels. Certain to be above Cain’s $127.5M. At $23M average would reach $138M.

  144. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Pat M.,

    He ain’t got any pool girls, or any, for that matter. He didn’t march in Selma, or anywhere else. He didn’t do a tour in VISTA or the Job Corps to try to help even out opportunity, not result. He’s a head full of mush, with slogans and internet searches. He does not even know the definition of “racist” vs “bigot”. He thinks any Southerner is by definition, “racist”. Plus, he’s an “Ageist”!

  145. LGY July 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Check out Melky Cabrera’s twitter mentions after the ASG if you don’t think he has racist comments directed at him.

  146. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    NYYs have had a long history of picking up mid-season pieces that nobody wanted and gotten a lot of mileage from them. NYY don’t even make it to the ’64 series without Pete Ramos. They lost the series because he was ineligible to play in it, though. Fielder, Lloyd, Weathers. They do the same thing in the winter and during ST. Over the years, few have done reclaimations as well.

  147. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Pat M,

    did they tell you any gossip?

  148. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    mike, they also likely play a team that used its #1 and #2 starters to get into the PS and win the WC game. it could be a tremendous advantage if the race goes down to the last w/e.

  149. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    “I agree with you – my guess though would be that Cashman would rather make a major Upton splash in the winter than in the Summer – doing it in the offseason lets him make additional moves to restock whatever depth a deal like this would cost him.”

    what if he’s not around this winter?

  150. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    If Cole turns down 6/138 then he really wants off that sinking ship in Philly….and he’ll be a Texas Rangers by July 31

  151. Bronx Jeers July 19th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    And what about Teixeira trying to kill Spike Lee with that bat? That would NEVER happen to Scorsese.

  152. Joe from Long Island July 19th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    ah, pedro ramos…..

    brings back memories

  153. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    “I tend to think that he’s more of the tinkerer in season and saves his big moves for the winter.”

    Oh I agree….but I think this is somewhat of a rare situation and Upton may not be available this winter….. I do doubt the Yankees do anything big…..they don’t need to really and they have tended to not force the issue when unnecessary the last few years.
    ——————

    You have a great point where Upton may be available now but not this winter, but at the same time, he could be available this winter and for a lower price. Right now Arizona needs ML players who can help them because they’re pushing for the playoffs, with or without Upton. But over the winter they can move Upton for prospects and try to replace his ML productivity by signing free agents (like one time D’Back Carlos Quentin, Melky or Nick Swisher)

  154. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    “I agree with you – my guess though would be that Cashman would rather make a major Upton splash in the winter than in the Summer – doing it in the offseason lets him make additional moves to restock whatever depth a deal like this would cost him.”

    what if he’s not around this winter?
    ———————

    Then he’s not around – it’s the same risk Cashman took when he walked away from Johan gambling that CC would be there as a free agent the following year.

  155. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    You just made my point…….For a person who has displayed on occassions to be gifted with a great aptitude, you post some rather foolish comments……..Trust me Face, you have no clue towhat prejuidice really is……..You should have been around in the 60?s and early 70?s……Ignorance will always be a factor regarding how people view others, however it’s light years better than what it was just 40 years ago

    Better than 40 years ago does not mean solved or that it does not exist. Educating people about it is a step towards correcting it, especially with the sexism stuff because it is ingrained in our culture. Minorities, women, or LGBT peoples should not accept ‘better than 40 years ago’. Thinking that is racist, or sexist. “Be grateful you’re no longer slaves! You have it way better now, shut up!’ Brrrt sorry, Pat, thats not how it works.

    Are you actually refuting any of this? You’ve just got a lot of empty insults and complaining right now.

  156. Mike_Boston July 19th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Exactly YS, the Yanks will have CC/Kuroda lined up for those 2 games. You play to be the top seed, anything else is just noise…

  157. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    “You have a great point where Upton may be available now but not this winter, but at the same time, he could be available this winter and for a lower price.”

    doubtful….if Towers holds him now then it’s because he thinks he can actually get more in the winter….not less.

  158. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Blake – it might not be as appealing a name, but I think Corban Joseph for David DeJesus works for both teams

  159. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    “Then he’s not around – it’s the same risk Cashman took when he walked away from Johan gambling that CC would be there as a free agent the following year.”

    it’s not the same thing though…..the same thing would be walking away from Upton now to sign Josh Hamilton this winter…..they aren’t going to sign anybody because of the budget.

  160. GregD July 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    NYYs have had a long history of picking up mid-season pieces that nobody wanted and gotten a lot of mileage from them. NYY don’t even make it to the ’64 series without Pete Ramos.

    ——————————–

    Pete Ramos…….a blast from the past………:)

  161. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    He does not even know the definition of “racist” vs “bigot”.

    In relation to race, they would be identical. You can’t be racist about a religion or sexual orientation, but you can be a bigot! But if you are intolerant of other races, then you are both a bigot and a racist.

    Thanks for playing, tomingeorgia! Good to know you know me so well as to make cracks about women (or lack there of) in my life! This must be one of those nerd things.

  162. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    “You have a great point where Upton may be available now but not this winter, but at the same time, he could be available this winter and for a lower price.”

    doubtful….if Towers holds him now then it’s because he thinks he can actually get more in the winter….not less.
    —————

    Depends on the definition of more vs. less – in the winter he can ask the Yankees for Banuelos and Mason Williams (for example) but during the season, when his team is trying to compete for the playoffs, if he’s going to move Upton then he would probably rather have major league ready talent rather than higher upside prospects who are still years away from helping.

  163. m July 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    WOW. Kind of heartwarming story at espn.com. Dennis Rodman finally meets his dad in the P.I. Apparently some things are genetic. His dad has 29 kids by 16 mothers. He runs the Rodman’s Rainbow Obamaburger restaurant in the Phillipines, where he’s lived for the last 50 years. Good luck to Ridman, he’s got issues that I hope he can overcome. He’s pretty soft inside and seems to be a good guy.

  164. GregD July 19th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    I dont’ think we are trading any of our current starting pitching to get J Upton………

  165. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    He runs the Rodman’s Rainbow Obamaburger restaurant in the Phillipines, where he’s lived for the last 50 years.

    Dennis didn’t think to look at the Rodman Rainbow Obamaburger restaurant sooner?

  166. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    “Then he’s not around – it’s the same risk Cashman took when he walked away from Johan gambling that CC would be there as a free agent the following year.”

    it’s not the same thing though…..the same thing would be walking away from Upton now to sign Josh Hamilton this winter…..they aren’t going to sign anybody because of the budget.
    ———————

    Nick Swisher’s a free agent – they’re going to have someone playing RF next year and it won’t be Andruw Jones. Either they’re going to sign someone or trade for someone or promote a kid from the minors. Since the closest ML ready OFs the Yankees have are at AA that seems the least likely route unless Zoilo and Abe tear it up in this second half.

  167. GregD July 19th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    if the Padres are trading J Upton….they aren’t competing for the playoffs any more……

  168. m July 19th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Jerkface,

    You makes some good points. unfortunately racism, sexism, all that stuff will never be eradicated. It’s just human nature for people to think they’re better than others. Ignorant

  169. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    “Nick Swisher’s a free agent – they’re going to have someone playing RF next year and it won’t be Andruw Jones.”

    Stop gap time

  170. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    Joe from Long Island July 19th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
    ah, pedro ramos…..

    brings back memories

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    That was a steal of a deal. Ramos might have been a really good pitcher if had been with better teams than Washington and Cleveland, as would Camillo Pasqual. Old Pete could swing Bt, too. He and Mantle were always trying to promote a footrace between them. Mantle also liked hitting off of Ramos, including two shots off of the “Facade” in right. I know the trade included money and Ralph Terry, but, can’t remember who else was involved. Terry was at about the end of the line.

  171. m July 19th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    Ignorant, crass, and ill-mannered people just continue to behave and speak badly. L

  172. m July 19th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    There are lots of prejudiced people, but not all act like racists.

  173. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    “Nick Swisher’s a free agent – they’re going to have someone playing RF next year and it won’t be Andruw Jones.”

    Stop gap time
    ——————————-

    If that stop gap happens to be Torii Hunter – I’m okay with that.

  174. GregD July 19th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Ralph Terry and Bud Daley

  175. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    “if the Padres are trading J Upton….they aren’t competing for the playoffs any more……”

    He plays for the Dbacks who are 6.5 games out and 3 games under .500……I think ownership wants him moved and I also think that Towers will move him no matter where they are in the standings if he things the deal makes them better long term.

  176. m July 19th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    If that Torii Hunter is for 1-yr, $5M, I’m okay with that, too.

  177. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    “If that stop gap happens to be Torii Hunter – I’m okay with that.”

    Well if they must do a stop gap I would as well…..Ill hope for more though.

  178. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    “Nick Swisher’s a free agent – they’re going to have someone playing RF next year and it won’t be Andruw Jones.”

    Stop gap time
    ——————————-

    Blake

    If that stop gap happens to be Torii Hunter – I’m okay with that. Or, like I said, trade a guy like Corban Joseph for DeJesus now, it solves the LF problem for the rest of the year and gives the Yankees a decent player on a low cost contract for next year if they can’t find a better option. If they do, a 1 year $5mil contract shouldn’t be hard to move, or they can keep him on the bench.

  179. GregD July 19th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    “if the Padres are trading J Upton….they aren’t competing for the playoffs any more……”

    He plays for the Dbacks who are 6.5 games out and 3 games under .500……I think ownership wants him moved and I also think that Towers will move him no matter where they are in the standings if he things the deal makes them better long term.

    ——————————
    sorry Dbacks…………..I think I he would be giving up on this year if he did, that’s all

  180. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Running around and screaming “racism” at every perceived slight or to get yourself your much needed attention accomplishes nothing but make you look stupid, not that you need much help, there. Now whistle for your pet boy, Sherman to join in again.

  181. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Dan Brewer just got traded to the Braves

  182. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    m July 19th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    If that Torii Hunter is for 1-yr, $5M, I’m okay with that, too.
    ———————

    Probably a little north of that – but still reasonable. I would say probably 1 year $10M. Same deal Kuroda’s on.

  183. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    if the Yanks can’t work out something bigger or longer term for RF next year then Hunter totally fits the mold of guys they have targeting the last couple of years…..good club house guy….veteran player who used to be a star etc…..a one year 5 million dollar deal would be nice….and I think it’s certainly possible if he doesn’t re-sign with the Angels.

  184. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    “Dan Brewer just got traded to the Braves”

    for Heyward? :)

  185. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Dan Brewer just got traded to the Braves
    ——————-

    Probably wasn’t the centerpiece of a deal for Jason Heyward.

  186. UnKnown July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    “Jeff Nelson said on the radio today that the Yankees didn’t need to do anything because Ibanez wasn’t much of a step down defensively from Gardner in LF.”

    Nelson surely is joking here. haha, good one Jeff.

    Jones/Ibanez has filled in great for Gardner but Ibanez is not in the same galaxy as Gardner defensively.

  187. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Jayson Stark
    ?@jaysonst

    Follow
    ?#Cubs? still working to trade Ryan Dempster ASAP. One source says Red Sox are officially out on Dempster, still in on Matt Garza

  188. m July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    I dint know, Chip. That sounds high. Look at the 1-yr deals handed out lately. Guys have been forced to retire because the market is so tight

    It will be karmic for Torii to come here for so little when he took every opportunity possible to mention about the Yankees $$.

  189. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS
    mike trout homers again. the story of the year. not even a second place. ?#angels?

  190. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Running around and screaming “racism” at every perceived slight or to get yourself your much needed attention accomplishes nothing but make you look stupid

    Actually, the one who looks stupid, is you, because you blow up at every perceived slight! Like making a throw away comment in a list of reasons why the Braves broadcasting crew sucks causes you to flip out, not even understand which crew I’m talking about, and launching into stuff like this! It is, in fact, racist to talk that way about a Japanese player. Japanese people do not appreciate it! The degree of racism can be up for debate, but thats all.

    That is the only time I’ve ‘run around screaming racism’, and it can hardly be called that. King Strawman of Hyperbolia, GB7!

  191. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Montero .313 with an .840 OPS in July…..heating up

  192. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    if the Yanks can’t work out something bigger or longer term for RF next year then Hunter totally fits the mold of guys they have targeting the last couple of years…..good club house guy….veteran player who used to be a star etc…..a one year 5 million dollar deal would be nice….and I think it’s certainly possible if he doesn’t re-sign with the Angels.
    ———————

    I don’t think there’s any way he will stick in LA – RF is pretty much the only place they can put Trumbo unless they just make him a DH and let Kendrys go. Plus, they still have Vernon Wells on the roster along with Borgeous and some dude named after a fish that is getting a lot of attention.

  193. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS
    mike trout homers again. the story of the year. not even a second place. ?#angels?
    ———————

    When was the last time Albert Pujols was not the biggest star on his team?

  194. Yank1 July 19th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    I’d love to see Ichiro patrolling RF in the Bronx next season

  195. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    “When was the last time Albert Pujols was not the biggest star on his team?”

    yea….he’s not been the best player on that team since the day Trout was called up

  196. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    m July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    I dint know, Chip. That sounds high. Look at the 1-yr deals handed out lately. Guys have been forced to retire because the market is so tight

    It will be karmic for Torii to come here for so little when he took every opportunity possible to mention about the Yankees $$.
    ——————

    You make a fair point – but I think the general feeling is that Hunter has more in the tank than Ibanez, Damon or Vladdy.

  197. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    “I’d love to see Ichiro patrolling RF in the Bronx next season”

    I wouldn’t mind renting him for the rest of this season if Gardner can’t come back and he’s cheap….but he looks close to cooked…you’d just be gambling that maybe he’s got one last hooray to try and win a title.

  198. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Robert E. Howard would have sold way less books if he wrote about King Strawman of Hyperbolia instead of King Conan of Hyperborea. (though Conan himself was from Cimmeria)

  199. m July 19th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Ichiro is an excellent stop gap. Is it okay to talk about the short porch?

    #relaxImAsian

  200. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    I’d only look to sign Ichiro for 1 year if they traded for him this year and he did well. He is a weird guy, who has a very unique drive to succeed, so I could see him playing better being on a contender with the playoffs to look forward too.

  201. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Yea I could see Ichiro turning back the clock for a postseason run in meaningful games…..

  202. blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    where did you see the Dan Brewer thing? Who did he get traded for ?

  203. luis July 19th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Yank1 July 19th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    I’d love to see Ichiro patrolling RF in the Bronx next season

    =======================

    As much as I liked Ichiro in the past…He is not what he used to be…We need to get younger not older

  204. Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    m……..It was a non-stop flight from JFK to LAX a few days after The Yanks 99 World Series Parade that I had the opportunity to sit next to Gloria Steinem on the flight…….After a few drinks we struck up a conversation and I had mentioned to her that I remember being in Manhanttan in the summer of 1970, just out of HS to check out the Women’s Protest March for equality…..Back then there were so many demonstations as the country was changing in leaps and bounds……..After about 10 minutes she looked me in the eye and asked me if I was there to support the cause or to check out the braless women ????? After a deep breath I said to her that my girlfriend made me go ( she was going to attend Smith that Fall ) and yes I did noticed all the bouncing Betties……She smiled and ordered us another round from the Stewardess……Fine looking women, very smart and very funny

  205. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    where did you see the Dan Brewer thing? Who did he get traded for ?

    The ole tweetar. Josh Norris and Mike Ashmore confirmed it. Mike Newman said it was because he wasn’t getting any ABs.

  206. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Pass on Ichiro.

    You’re losing Nick Swisher, a middle of the order bat, need to replace him with someone similar. Adding Ichiro the question becomes, where would you hit him in the lineup, his best spot is up at the top but the Yankees have a good thing going with Derek and Granderson so now you’re talking about the bottom of the order – my guess is that Ichiro would be more than a little chapped about being asked to hit 8 or 9.

    Hunter on the other hand you plug right into the 6 spot behind Tex and leave him alone.

  207. m July 19th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Funny story, Pat M. As usual.

    Espn.com was running a story saying that Dwight Howard would reup with the Lakers if traded. The problem is Bynum said he wouldn’t reup with the Magic if traded there.

  208. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    where did you see the Dan Brewer thing? Who did he get traded for ?
    ——————–

    Donnie Collins also tweeted it. He covers the SWB Yankees.

  209. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    I see everyone is getting along!

    Rumor is Dempster wants to go to a contender and would prefer the NL and the Dodgers would be his 1st choice.

    a pitcher-Garza, Greinke?Looks like the Braves will be in on

    Any word yet on Gardner?

  210. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    m-

    Bynum will re-up with the Caveliers.

  211. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Not sure who this big 19 year old right hander, Jordan Cote is, but, he’s off and smoking for Tampa GCL. 3-0 with a sub 1 ERA, 4 walks and 25 strikeouts in 27 innings. 6’5″ and listed at 215. from NH.

  212. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    The Magic have to get the kind of package they want, which may involve bringing in a third team. Reports surfaced Wednesday that the Lakers had brought the Cavaliers into talks, involving Bynum headed to Cleveland while Anderson Varejao and a package of assets heads to Orlando.

  213. m July 19th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    YT,

    Really? I heard they were a possible third team. Kind if sounds like Bynum wants to test FA if traded. Which of course makes him untradable. If the Lakers whiff on Bynum, then they plan to approach Bynum about an extension. Awkward!

    Bynum’s a Jersey boy…

  214. m July 19th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Sorry, if they whiff on Howard…

  215. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    The Brewer deal could be anything from a cash deal to a trade or just a loan because Atlanta needs an outfielder. Too bad, because before he kept getting hurt, Brewer could hit and he could run.

  216. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    The Brewer deal could be anything from a cash deal to a trade or just a loan because Atlanta needs an outfielder. Too bad, because before he kept getting hurt, Brewer could hit and he could run.
    ——————

    Yup, another superstar.

  217. Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    m……..Bynum knows the handwritting is on the wall, and all he’s doing at this point is pushing The Magic for a new contract with op outs ……..Superman The Sequel will be premiering in Los Angeles come October………

  218. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    m-

    Here’s the link. If Bynum and Howard sign extensions with Cleveland and LA, the deal might get done if Turkaglu can be unloaded

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/b.....aded-to-la

  219. RMS July 19th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    …Ignorance will always be a factor regarding how people view others, however it’s light years better than what it was just 40 years ago…
    ———————————————————————————————-
    2 years ago when I told my neighbor that my nephew, who is black, was going to Oxford University (Rhodes Scholarship,) his first question was, ” Is it a sports scholarship?” If my nephew were white, that question would have not been asked.

  220. Hassey July 19th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    The Lakers do have that knack for getting every premier center they’ve ever coveted – not counting Chuck Nevitt

  221. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Pat M-

    Which of the two is healthier-Bynum or Howard?

  222. UnKnown July 19th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    Upton to the Yankees and Howard to the Lakers.

    Christmas in July.

  223. Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Trader…….Good question , and as much as Andrew improved and matured this past season, I’ll take my chances with Dwight Howard………..Didn’t Doreen attend Smith College ????

  224. m July 19th, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    YT,

    Thanks. I called out Howard for being a big immature baby this summer. But if he is traded to the Lakers, I will have no choice but to cheer for him. :)

    I’m not too happy with Bynum’s immaturity, either, which seem to be of a different sort altogether.

  225. Against All Odds July 19th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    m-

    Bynum will re-up with the Caveliers.

    ——————–

    There is now a report with Bynum’s agent stating the Cavs aren’t on his list that he would re-up with. So let me get this straight a list comes out weeks ago that states your client is eying HOU, DAL, and CLE as teams he would go to as a free agent. A three team deal with CLE/ORL/LAL came out weeks ago and nothing happened. Now it pops up again and you come out and say CLE is not on his list. Where were you when his “list” first came out

  226. Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    m…….I think if Dwight were in the same locker room with Kobe, Gasol, Nash, Artest, you have to think that his outlook will be changed……There’s also some talk about The Lakers bringing in Grant Hill as a 6th man….That would be a huge addition

  227. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Pat M-

    After researching it Howard is healthier. Lumbar discectomy in April-should be 100%
    Bynum had knee surgery in summer 2010, and is going to Germany soon to have Platelet Rich Plasma injections like Kobe and ARod had.

  228. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Must have been a Hell of a movie, Goffer. Was Paul Reubins with you?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31.....e-theater/

  229. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    m…….I think if Dwight were in the same locker room with Kobe, Gasol, Nash, Artest, you have to think that his outlook will be changed……There’s also some talk about The Lakers bringing in Grant Hill as a 6th man….That would be a huge addition
    —————-

    Hill agreed to terms with the Clippers.

    Regardless of what Howard says – who was the last superstar in his prime that walked away from the Lakers? If he gets traded there, he’s going to sign there.

  230. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Link on Bynum from 7/17:

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....7664.story

    Sorry-I know this is a Yankee blog, but I’m anxiously awaiting updates on Gardner so I can know if the Yankees need to make a deal before the TD. :)

  231. Against All Odds July 19th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Grant Hill went to the Clippers. Lakers would like to bring back Jordan Hill but he is weighing an offer from the T’wolves.

    Lakers did pick up Jamison though

  232. Yank1 July 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    The Clippers signed Grant Hill 3 days ago, didn’t they?

  233. Yank1 July 19th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    “Regardless of what Howard says – who was the last superstar in his prime that walked away from the Lakers? If he gets traded there, he’s going to sign there.”

    Of course he will. The question is getting him to commit to Orlando. His agent already shot-down Cleveland as a destination, which kills that 3-team deal.

    Lakers should just re-sign him to an extension, then trade him to ORL in January (when they legally can trade him after signing an extension). That way, he has no say in the matter.

  234. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    lohud nba blog.

  235. Against All Odds July 19th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Bynum would never agree to an extension with LA anyway. He is a yr away from free agency and he wants the max.

  236. Pat M. July 19th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Jordon Hill !!!!! No multi-function skills what so ever !!!!!

  237. Against All Odds July 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    He is a solid player though and they need a back up for Pau.

  238. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Pat M–

    Any rumors that you heard lately that might have some legs! Baseball that is?

  239. Tank July 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Enough NBA talk – let’s discuss Montero and his .840 OPS in July and that he hit his 9th HR today

  240. Chip July 19th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Tank July 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Enough NBA talk – let’s discuss Montero and his .840 OPS in July and that he hit his 9th HR today
    ———————–

    I wish Montero nothing but the best – but his HR came off the Will Smith (not the actor) who looks like he pitches as well as the other Will Smith (the actor)

  241. blake July 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Montero is hitting like .330 with close to a 900 OPS this month though…..starting to make adjustments …..he was always going to hit at some point …..the big leagues are hard…..not everybody is Mike Trout.

  242. blake July 19th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    And even Trout kinda stunk last yes. In his big league cameo…..

  243. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    All I want to say about Montero is……………………if only he could play a corner outfield position with some aplomb! :) Did I spell that right? Wouldn’t need to trade for an Upton, or Victorino or even DeJesus.

    Oh well.

    News on Gardner please!!

  244. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    nice job by montero this month but he missed a bunch of time from that ‘mini- concussion’ so what’s he got 30 at bats so far?

  245. Nick in SF July 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Not to rain on the Montero parade, as I welcome the homer and need 11 more this year, but his July has included a number of days riding the pine, days out with cuncussion-esque symptoms, and the All-Star break, which for him was a real break, pre-Cooperstown status notwithstanding.

    I do hope he keeps it up and goes on a homer binge — do the M’s have lots more games to play in KC?

  246. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    maybe the mini-concussion cleared out the cobwebs…

  247. Yankee Trader July 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Not expecting good news now that James Andrews is being consulted-

    The Yankees outfielder, who felt soreness in his injured elbow this week after a simulated game, is still waiting to hear back about the MRI exam he took Tuesday. Yankees team doctor Christopher Ahmad is attempting to speak with renowned sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews about the MRI, according to Gardner’s agent Joe Bick. That conversation should happen Thursday.

    “At the end of the day, we’ll have a pretty good idea what’s going on,” Bick said.

  248. The Return of Stoneburner July 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    Montero .313 with an .840 OPS in July…..heating up

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    Montero is hitting like .330 with close to a 900 OPS this month though

    *****

    Well which is it .313 or like. 330 or close to a 900 OPS or .840 – these are different numbers – especially the OPS has a big difference. Even in Montero’s small sample size of games here in July, people will still try to skew the numbers – or are we playing Randy’s game of BA and numbers ONLY when Montero catches now.

  249. Bronx Jeers July 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    ……She smiled and ordered us another round from the Stewardess……

    ——————————————————————————

    This sounds like it could come from the opening paragraph in a Penthouse Forum story. Pat M, maybe we could hear the 2nd chapter during the late innings of tonight’s game. The Lohud witching hour :smile:

  250. GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    witching

    Are you sure of the spelling of that word?

  251. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Well which is it .313 or like. 330 or close to a 900 OPS or .840 – these are different numbers – especially the OPS has a big difference. Even in Montero’s small sample size of games here in July, people will still try to skew the numbers – or are we playing Randy’s game of BA and numbers ONLY when Montero catches now.

    The game was on going at the time, he is now hiting .333 in July. Remain ever vigilant and crazy!

  252. Bronx Jeers July 19th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    True. Depending on game results it could be the b-itching hour.

  253. Nick in SF July 19th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    “Montero went 10-for-17 in the series, improving his batting average from .242 to .262 in the four-game span. After totaling just one RBI from June 1 to July 16, he’s had eight in the past three games and now totals 36 for the year.”

    She leaned towards me and whispered into my ear “That’s a pretty beefy OPS you’ve got for a hot, steamy month like July…” #latenightlohud

  254. Bo knows July 19th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Jordan Cote is a total sleeper – Best pitcher in the Northeast as in the frozen north. A lot of similarity to someone like Trout – that the Yankees thought they had a clear field until the Angels came along.

    Per RAB

    2011 Draft: Yankees sign third rounder Jordan Cote
    By Mike Axisa .The Yankees announced that they have signed third round pick Jordan Cote, though terms of the deal were undisclosed. I’m sure we’ll find out the size of his signing bonus soon enough, but there’s a pretty good chance it’ll be seven figures.

    Cote, a 6-foot-5, 205 lb. high school right-hander from New Hampshire, was the highest ceilinged prospect the Yankees selected this year. Baseball America (subs. req’d) says his “fastball sits at 88-90 mph and touches 92, [but] adding strength and pitching in warmer weather should help bump his velocity, especially because he has great hand speed.” He also throws a curveball, slider, and changeup, but each needs work. “Cote has drawn comparisons to Chris Carpenter,” added BA, and “one scout said Cote has the highest ceiling of any pitcher in the Northeast.”

    Update: Cote signed for $725k according to Keith Law, a very fair price. Honestly thought it might be double that.

    —————————

    And a pretty neat story about Cote, family and friends

    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston.....ordan-cote

  255. blake July 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    “Well which is it .313 or like. 330 or close to a 900 OPS or .840 – these are different numbers –especially the OPS has a big difference. ”

    Its been bith today and yes its a small sample but thats not the point….everything hes done this year good or bad is a small.sample……the poibt is thats hes a talented hitter that will likely hit at some point….

  256. Tabbert July 19th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    I don’t really know what to think of the Angels. They basically added trumbo, trout, pujols, cj wilson, and that closer to their squad. All we hear is how great trout is and how great the angels are. They just went up against the Yankees and Tigers and didn’t fair too well. Obviously they should make the playoffs, but they are not as good as the rangers and they don’t really scare me come playoff time. I think the its the Yankees, Rangers, Nationals, and the rest of baseball. Those are the 3 best teams and i don’t think the nats are even that close to the yanks or the rangers.

  257. The Return of Stoneburner July 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
    Well which is it .313 or like. 330 or close to a 900 OPS or .840 – these are different numbers – especially the OPS has a big difference. Even in Montero’s small sample size of games here in July, people will still try to skew the numbers – or are we playing Randy’s game of BA and numbers ONLY when Montero catches now.

    The game was on going at the time, he is now hiting .333 in July. Remain ever vigilant and crazy!

    ******

    Oh so we are getting real time updates with Montero now – nice – and only when he goes 3 for 4 in a game.

    And face with a jerk – still have not provided a sufficient reason why: (1) you discounted that Andruw Jones would have a better second half just as he did last year, and (2) why you would even want six years of control over a guy hitting .225. The salary difference is not even that big of a deal – Jones is making what 3 millionish and change. Number 1 above especially you were called out in June about before the second half happened, and now all you cling to is six years of control. Interesting, interesting, needless to say any arguments about the Yankees being unable to develop starting pitching are now undermined as well. Interesting. Are the Yankees a better team this year with Andruw Jones than compared with if they had Justin Maxwell. The verdict is yes, and if the Yanks had followed your advice in ST, they would be in a worst situation. Interesting, you did a bad job as an armchair GM – - – -heaven forbid you were actually listend to – - – -interesting, the failure, the poetics, the failure of choosing Justin Maxwell over Andruw Jones – - -the inability to realize Andruw Jones would have a better second half just like last year – - -the weakness of the argument that the Yanks would have six years of control over Justin Maxwell – - – -why would they want to – and that is the question.

    Sorry, but you are lousy at some of roster suggestions.

  258. The Return of Stoneburner July 19th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    blake July 19th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    “Well which is it .313 or like. 330 or close to a 900 OPS or .840 – these are different numbers –especially the OPS has a big difference. ”

    Its been bith today and yes its a small sample but thats not the point….everything hes done this year good or bad is a small.sample……the poibt is thats hes a talented hitter that will likely hit at some point….

    ********

    Take out the likely and add “potentially” and I would agree. It is potential – no one knows what “will likely” occur.

  259. Tabbert July 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    Which rotation would you rather have in the playoffs?

    A, Yankees: Sabathia, Pettitte, Kuroda, Nova.

    B, Angels. Weaver, Wilson, Haren, Santana.

    Personally i think its a complete wash. Now, whose defense, offense, bench, bullpen, would you want? Yankees, Yankees, Yankees, Yankees. The Yankees are pretty much better than the angels in every single aspect of the game.

  260. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Actually in ST I said I’d replace Ibanez with Maxwell. Still would.

  261. Jerkface July 19th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    And the Yankees can no longer scoff at salaries, if they are committed to their budget that is much lower than their current budget.

  262. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    Guess the Yankees have decided to use Phelps as some sort of swingman type ?

    Like an an Aceves. A guy who can start or relieve with equal ability.

    Anyone else see it that way ?

  263. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    How was the hike, MTU?

    I think we’re headed into the dreaded 6-man rotation, and I think it will work.

  264. blake July 19th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    “Take out the likely and add “potentially” and I would agree. It is potential – no one knows what “will likely” occur.”

    No IMO its likely…..Ill be very surprised if hes not at least an above average big league hitter and I think his upside is higher than that

  265. blake July 19th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    “Which rotation would you rather have in the playoffs?”

    I think its close to a wash as well…..bad Santana and Haren been better Id give them the edge…..but Haren hasnt been as good and Santana has been terrible…..I thibk the Yanks are better than the Angels……whether they are better than Texas by playoff time will probably depend on health and what each team does at the deadline.

  266. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Tom-

    Knocked off the equivalent of another Empire state building in the green trees. Had a few brewskis afterwards. What could be better.

    Thanks for asking.

    I don’t like the 6-Man. IMO it will not work. We’ve tried it before and the results were not satisfactory.

    If they go that route they need to find a way to keep CC on schedule.

    He does particularly poorly on extra rest.

  267. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Blake-

    I think Texas is gonna bust a significant move.

  268. blake July 19th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    MTU,

    I think they are gonna add a pitcher…..and if Philly doesnt get Hamels sogned itll be him…..even if they do I think either Grienke, Garza…..or maybe even Cliff Lee will be a Ranger by July 31.

  269. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Blake-

    I think so too. A Pitcher. Not sure who.

  270. tomingeorgia July 19th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    MTU,
    Then what else? Skipping a start or to didn’t hurt CC, I don’t think.

  271. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Tom-

    What I said. Use Phelps as an Aceves type.

    If he can handle the stress he could become very valuable to the Yankees.

    I don’t want to see Phelps rotting out in the pen again.

    Perhaps a trade will occur ?

    CC needs to be on regular rest between starts. He doesn’t like extra days. He’s said so in the past and his results that way aren’t as good.

    It seems to affect his command.

    He’s just had plenty of rest. More than he’s used to. He’s ready to roll for the remainder of the season.

  272. MTU July 19th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    There’s a new thread —–>

  273. Ys Guy July 19th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    i dont think we’re going to a 6 man rotation b/c joe has said on several occasions in the past that he doesnt like that. but if they are going to a 6-man, it might be specifically for cc who hasn’t fared well the past 2 postseasons.(era’s over 6.20 and whip over 2.0)

    his overall PS #’s might indicate that he’s been gassed going into the playoffs and he only fared well in 2009.

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