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Yankees postgame: Tale of two injured-riddled teams

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jul 28, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees sure have done a better job getting past their injuries than the Red Sox. They have more talent and more depth than the Red Sox have, too. The pitching is much better. The gap between these first- and last-place teams is now 11 1/2 games after this 10-3 win by the Yankees.

“They don’t focus on the negative,” Joe Girardi said. “They focus on the job at hand. Because you’re going to go through injuries. Every team is going through it. We’re not immune to it. But they focus on what they’ve got to do that day. Who’s in the lineup, they go to work, pitchers go to work, and they try to win a game.”

The Yankees have had 13 players on the DL. The Red Sox have had 22. But Carl Crawford and Jacobi Ellsbury have been back since mid-July. Big Papi Ortiz is due back next Wednesday. The team has lost six of seven to fall to 49-51. The Yankees were saying not to count them out yet. Bobby Valentine was saying the same thing.

“We’ll turn it around,” Valentine said. “We haven’t had our big streak yet. That’s the good news.”

Ichiro went 1 for 4 in his debut in the pinstriped threads. He appreciated the warmth shown by the fans.

“Usually, I come in and the fans behind me are pretty tough on me,” Ichiro said. “But tonight they were great. They were awesome.”

He sure seems to appreciate being here.

“I was very excited,” Ichiro said. “My first game here in Yankee Stadium was against the Boston Red Sox. In Japan, you twist your cheek to see if it’s real or not, if I’m not dreaming. That’s really how I feel right now.”

Phil Hughes gave up three solo homers but only two other hits in seven innings. He’s up to 10-8 after his first win since July 1.

“With nobody on, the last thing I want to do is walk guys,” Hughes said. “That can lead to big innings. If I give up a solo home run here or there, I can work around that and find kind of a rhythm.”

Eric Chavez got hit high on the side of the right ankle in the eighth. He left after the inning when it tightened up, then met the media with a big wrap on it.

Chavez said it looked worse than it was. He said X-rays were negative, that it was just a bruise. He wasn’t sure if he would be available off the bench today. But he isn’t scheduled to start at third these next two games with lefties pitching.

“If there’s a good time to get hit, it was a good time,” Chavez said.

Today’s pitching matchup will feature CC Sabathia and Jon Lester.

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56 Responses to “Yankees postgame: Tale of two injured-riddled teams”

  1. JM July 28th, 2012 at 12:13 am

    MarcCarig Bobby V: “I just believe.”
    about 1 hour ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    I don’t know what exactly Bobby V “believes” but the Sox have dug themselves quite a deep hole at this point.

  2. jmills July 28th, 2012 at 12:20 am

    JM – my jays.

  3. igotid88 July 28th, 2012 at 12:24 am

    Hughes has given up less hr per 9 this month. Although the last 2 games is a little too high. But all lkke most of the ones he’s given up have been solo shots.

  4. jmills July 28th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    Igotid-hold on 88

  5. jmills July 28th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    We’ll do better!

  6. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2012 at 12:55 am

    I want you dumpster divers to chew on this:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/b.....order/true

  7. igotid88 July 28th, 2012 at 1:06 am

    jmills July 28th, 2012 at 12:28 am
    Igotid-hold on 88
    ———————-

    blackjack?

  8. m July 28th, 2012 at 1:07 am

    Sox injuries. Yawn.

    Crawford on the DL was probably an upgrade. Papi’s resurgence continued. They had one if the best offenses in MLB.

    What’s hurting them are two players who’ve been healthy. Lester and Beckett.

  9. m July 28th, 2012 at 1:17 am

    And wtfd with hitting our players? New manager, same tactics. At least they hit Melancon’s ERA.

  10. 98NYY July 28th, 2012 at 1:19 am

    In 1978 the Yanks were down 14 1/2 games to Boston. We know what happened and so does Bobby V. The difference is the Yanks replaced their manager and had a great pitching staff. Maybe V was hoping to get fired so Boston would have a chance…just saying…

  11. CompassRosy July 28th, 2012 at 1:24 am

    wow – I hardly recognize this guy with short hair and a smile…

    http://tinyurl.com/cudj43x

    :)

  12. Uncle Ellsworth July 28th, 2012 at 1:38 am

    Well… ya gotta believe! Sox only 4.5 from wc. Still not buyin it.

  13. I Am Winning July 28th, 2012 at 2:04 am

    Hughes is a guy who has a questionable future.

    A small sample of his career numbers in the minors:
    2.35 ERA
    .191 BAA
    0.93 WHIP
    1.35 GO/AO
    More than 1 SO per inning.
    11 HR in 344.00 IP

    For reference, his career numbers in the majors:
    4.38 ERA
    .250 BAA
    1.29 WHIP
    0.65 GO/AO
    Less than 1 SO per inning
    78 HR in 565.0 IP!

    We all know we are talking about a different level of hitters. However, Hughes absolutely dominated those hitters. The truly successful pitchers continue their dominance (for the most part) in to the majors. Hughes actually did that, until landing on the DL for an extended period of time. He has shown glimpses throughout the way, but not consistently. Last night was a good game, I will take it every time, but look at his numbers; his MLB vs MILB stats indicate he is a completely different pitcher. For reasons unbeknownst to me. I just wish we could get a glimpse of that Hughes again. He was a front line starter in the making. Right now, he is a starter trying to earn his stay in the rotation for years to come. I want Hughes to dominate like he has his while life. Bring it to the majors.

  14. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2012 at 2:13 am

    ;)

  15. igotid88 July 28th, 2012 at 2:24 am

    Hughes giving up a 2.24hr every 9 innings at home but still has a 3.98 era there

  16. igotid88 July 28th, 2012 at 2:38 am

    I Am Winning July 28th, 2012 at 2:04 am
    Hughes is a guy who has a questionable future.

    A small sample of his career numbers in the minors:
    2.35 ERA
    .191 BAA
    0.93 WHIP
    1.35 GO/AO
    More than 1 SO per inning.
    11 HR in 344.00 IP

    For reference, his career numbers in the majors:
    4.38 ERA
    .250 BAA
    1.29 WHIP
    0.65 GO/AO
    Less than 1 SO per inning
    78 HR in 565.0 IP!

    We all know we are talking about a different level of hitters. However, Hughes absolutely dominated those hitters. The truly successful pitchers continue their dominance (for the most part) in to the majors. Hughes actually did that, until landing on the DL for an extended period of time. He has shown glimpses throughout the way, but not consistently. Last night was a good game, I will take it every time, but look at his numbers; his MLB vs MILB stats indicate he is a completely different pitcher. For reasons unbeknownst to me. I just wish we could get a glimpse of that Hughes again. He was a front line starter in the making. Right now, he is a starter trying to earn his stay in the rotation for years to come. I want Hughes to dominate like he has his while life. Bring it to the majors.
    ————————————–

    He’s on his way. Probably won’t get too those exact minor league numbers. But you said it yourself. His dl stints and time in the bullpen has stunted his pitching growth. He’s averaging 110ip the last 5 years. And 1 year removed from his highest innings. Most pitchers. Most pitchers gradually build up innings. In the same 5 years Nova is averaging 177ip. And this season they’re basically the same pitcher. With Hughes having better numbers in most categories. So I don’t know why he’s questionable but other guys aren’t?

  17. RadioKev July 28th, 2012 at 6:22 am

    I Am Winning,

    Why hold Hughes’ past against him to try and make a case for the future? Anyone who’s watching will tell you he’s been a different pitcher these past two months.

    Since May 12 he has a 3.24 ERA.

  18. Tar July 28th, 2012 at 6:44 am

    “Why hold Hughes’ past against him to try and make a case for the future? Anyone who’s watching will tell you he’s been a different pitcher these past two months.

    Since May 12 he has a 3.24 ERA.”

    I agree. I also think/know he was he was tipping, and it took way to long for the Yankees to figure it out. But now that they have, he has re-gained his confidence. He is still really young, with lots of experience and talent. When he puts it all together, watch out.

  19. GregD July 28th, 2012 at 7:13 am

    I think Hughes would reduce those homers if he can give the hitters something else to think about like continuing to develop his changeup or perhaps the two seamer to righthanded hitters. I would rather have him pound the strike zone than walk a bunch of guys because he is afraid to hit bats. Unfortunately that means he will get too much of the plate some times.

  20. RadioKev July 28th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    It’s actually funny how Hughes’ 2012 FIP is so bad. 4.78 FIP because of those HRs. While FIP can show an overly inflated ERA due to fielding outcomes, it’s the opposite with Hughes.

    HRs and all, it’s hard not to be encouraged by Hughes’ progress this season. The next step is to get the long ball under control.

  21. MTU July 28th, 2012 at 7:58 am

    Boston needs to rebuild.

    Doubront/Buttholz/Middlebrooks.

    Build around that.

    Make Beckett, and possibly Lester disappear.

    Put Lackey into the wood chipper.

  22. Cashmoney July 28th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    Don’t know what people expect Valentine to say… they need consistent pitching to go on a streak. Hard to see that happening with a patchwork rotation…

    Hughes pitched well except those solo jobs…

  23. RadioKev July 28th, 2012 at 8:05 am

    MTU July 28th, 2012 at 7:58 am
    Boston needs to rebuild.

    Doubront/Buttholz/Middlebrooks.

    Build around that.

    Make Beckett, and possibly Lester disappear.

    Put Lackey into the wood chipper.
    ————————–

    Good Morning MTU. That’s the sentiment around here. Most folks want Beckett out, and I agree. He’s outlived his usefulness. He’s not committed, he has a poor attittude, and he can no longer get by on talent alone. At no point was Lackey a good signing as he’s been in decline for years, and he has similar attitude problems.

    Lester might be harder to give up on. He was a workhorse for a few years, and never seemed to be a problem. Is he just having baseball/mechanical issues, or is his dedication wavering too?

    Doubront to me is just filler. He’s a fine 3rd pitcher, but nothing you can lean on.

    I think the Red Sox are set up to look like the White Sox of the past few years (this year excluded). A big market team, caught in between rebuilding and competing for sales & spotlight. Someone has got to get in there and take the reins. Or not. That’s OK with me too :)

  24. Cashmoney July 28th, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Nice addition by the Angels… they continue to be my pick to come out of AL.

  25. MTU July 28th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Kev-

    Boston used to be relevant.

    They won’t be again until they get their starting staff in order.

    Like you I could really care less.

    I was just sayin’.

    :)

  26. RadioKev July 28th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Well, having to live here and all, I enjoy beating the Sox in competitive series. Folks don’t even care about it here, what’s the fun in that?

  27. MTU July 28th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    Cash-

    Yeah. Ole’ Arte Moreno really went to the well on that one.

    Emptied the Farm for that one. 3 of his top ten.

    Rangers came out as the Bridesmaid this time.

    The Brewers wanted Olt + and Texas wouldn’t go there.

    They can settle for small game Shields instead.

    The asking price for JJ is just about as high as it was for Greinke.

  28. Cashmoney July 28th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    Lester’s command is off this year, stuff wise he look kind of same from previous years. It could simply mean he is having off year or he is got some kind of injury he is hiding.

    i trade hughes for lester in a new york min if Lester is not hurt.

  29. MTU July 28th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    I agree w. Kev.

    I’m not sure Lester is comitted to the Sux any more.

    He was part of the beer and chicken brigade.

    A change of scenery might do him some good.

    I wouldn’t want to wake up to the screeching of Booby V either.

    ;)

  30. Cashmoney July 28th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    MTU, Angels worries me because they have a pretty complete team… offensive wise they are versatile , a blend of speed, superstar bats and complimentary players who knows how to execute small balls. they got a good pen and now a good front 3 in Weaver, Grenike and Haren.

  31. MTU July 28th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    Cash-

    Make that 4.

    Weaver, Greinke, Haren, and Wilson.

    Santana is as good as gone.

    ;)

  32. Cashmoney July 28th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    oh yeah, my bad, I forgot Wilson. Good team, no doubt.

  33. BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    MTU -

    Good morning.

    I heard the Sux were getting Reyes from the Marlins, have you heard this?

    Guess who’s coming to dinner?

  34. Cashmoney July 28th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    yeah, looks like Moreno is going for it this year, but that team is gonna good for few years if they lock up Greinke as well this off season. depth is their concern as citing how barren their farm is.

  35. MTU July 28th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Mornin’ Al-

    Nope. Hadn’t heard that.

    “Guess who’s coming to dinner?”

    Sidney Poitier ?

    Seriously, better lock up your valuables and padlock your fridge.

    :)

  36. BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    MTU -

    Mike, are you saying Mr. Jim is a big eater?

  37. RadioKev July 28th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    Is the Angels bullpen good? For some reason I thought it was poor…

    I like that trade for the Angels. I hear they gave up a lot for a rental, their top prospect and a couple of decent guys, but Greinke could put them over the top. That’s a hell of a rotation.

  38. jmills July 28th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Big Al-sti

  39. MTU July 28th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Al-

    He manages a restaurant doesn’t he ?

    The guy is a rail. I kinda doubt it.

    Say hi for me. Sounds like some real fun.

    Gotta walk the Pupperazzi.

    Maybe Jim prefers Southern Belles to Mormon Women.

    :)

  40. BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:29 am

    sti ???

  41. jmills July 28th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Sorry-blackberry is giving me fits :(

  42. BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    MTU -

    OK Mike, later. I have to get ready to go out myself, catch you later.

    I’ll be sure to tell Jim you told me to lock up my valuables! LOL :)

  43. Cashmoney July 28th, 2012 at 8:32 am

    Is the Angels bullpen good? For some reason I thought it was poor…
    —-
    they have an unproven closer who is having a very good year and scott down/miller combo. a couple of dinosaurs in isringhausen and hawkin. not deep but can mix and match when you get down to 8 and 9th.

  44. jmills July 28th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Al – still reading your Berra list thanks – ” I want Seaver !”

  45. BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    If it comes down to the Yanks vs. Angels, at least we have home field advantage, which is very important against that team.

    I have a feeling Texas is going to slow down and be overtaken by the Angels.

    Remember when Cashman said; Pitching, pitching, pitching.

    Just look at the A’s as an example of what happens when you get great pitching. Right now, that’s the only team I’d be concerned about in a short series.

  46. BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    jmills -

    Seaver said he’s happy in retirement, sorry, I couldn’t get him to sign.

    I’d be happy to give you Betences and Warren. You can dream, along with the prospect huggers, that Betences will become a super star for your team, lol.

  47. jmills July 28th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    This must be the year of the injury and you guys have had your fair share – this new blackberry is going through the wall :)

  48. BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Y’all have a great day, catch you later.

  49. BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    jmills -

    Quick note before I leave, throw the Blackberry away, they are going out of business soon, and wait for the iphone5 this fall.

  50. Cashmoney July 28th, 2012 at 8:47 am

    NL playoff ought to be fun to watch, I see a number of teams that are fairly even match.

  51. RadioKev July 28th, 2012 at 8:47 am

    As much as I dislike Joel Sherman, I heard him on the Sports Talk station in town a couple of nights ago. He said if Boston hires a guy like Bobby Valentine, they’ve got to let him be Bobby Valentine. Rude, obnoxious, and a mix of brilliance/insanity. I generally agree. You can’t hire a guy for like that and tell him to be something else for PR sake. He’s impotent right now.

  52. RadioKev July 28th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Impotence + Patriotism

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY

  53. jmills July 28th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Thanks Al , this thing makes me write like the Born Loser

  54. blake July 28th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    I used to not like Sherman either until I heard him on the radio a few times…..hes got a prickly personality somewhat but he cares about his job and I think really puts a lot of time and effort in to it…..hes a great listen on radio and is probably more plugged in to thr Yanks than anybody.

  55. austinmac July 28th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Unless things change significantly, the Sox are going to move Beckett this winter. With his contract, poor pitching and attitude reputation, they won’t get much. I hope they don’t get much salary relief.

    We will see how these next two games go with Nix at third. He is a career .210 hitter and not a regular third baseman. If they won’t trade, they should bring up Laird for Pena and use him in the 3B mix. He hit two homers yesterday and has been hitting very well after a dreadful start.

  56. J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    BIG AL July 28th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    …..
    I’d be happy to give you Betences and Warren. You can dream, along with the prospect huggers, that Betences will become a super star for your team, lol.
    ///

    Yeah, lol. Hilarious to think a guy with that good stuff could actually pan out.

    What do you really contribute here, Al, with this swipe at Betances? You provide no detail, no insight, you just throw some smart ass words around and ridicule a young pitching prospect.

    WTF. You got nothin’ on the subject, I would say. How about something constructive about Betances, if you’re going to reference him? There’s no accountability in this little Lohud world. Say something of substance about him, or say nothing. He pitched extremely well yesterday, but you wouldn’t know it, because you’re too busy taking swings at people who actually chart his progress.

    SMH

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