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Teixeira and Padilla

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jul 29, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Mark Teixeira and Vicente Padilla have a history and it isn’t a good one.

The latest chapter was written in the eighth inning Saturday night when Teixeira sent up a tying two-run homer to right off the Red Sox reliever, then walked very slowly out of the box, watching the ball fly out. Let’s start this off by saying that there was no way that ball was going to go foul since it was headed closer to the bleachers than the pole.

“I just want to make sure it was fair,” Teixeira said after the Yankees’ 8-6 loss, clearly not wanting to admit how much he enjoyed sticking it to Padilla. “The balls had been hooking a lot tonight. Curtis (Granderson) hit a few that hooked. So I didn’t want to waste a lot of energy running out of the box if that ball goes foul. It’s been a long day. But it felt good.”

Teixeira has accused Padilla of throwing at batters. He has been hit by Padilla three times. After Padilla gave up a big triple to Teixeira earlier this month, Teixeira had some unflattering words about him. Padilla then accused Teixeira of threatening him with a bat when they were Texas teammates and of having problems with Hispanic players, and said Teixeira should try “a women’s sport.”

Teixeira said he has no reason to try to clear the air with Padilla.

“There’s no problem,” Teixeira said. “If he hits me again, there might be a problem. But until then, we’ll just play baseball.”

Here are Teixeira’s career numbers now against Padilla: 4 for 12 with three homers.

It has been a big July for Teixeira. He has 27 RBI, his second-best total in a calendar month as a Yankee. He also owns 18 RBI in eight games vs. the Red Sox. Only Roger Maris has driven in more runs for the Yankees against Boston since 1960, knocking in 19 in 1961.

 

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498 Responses to “Teixeira and Padilla”

  1. MTU July 29th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    YT-

    I hope they keep both.

    The discussion got to be about the merits of one over the other and who would you trade ?

    I prefer they keep both. If I had to trade one for me it’s Hughes.

    It’s Blake who doesn’t care which one and is willing to trade either.

    He sees them as pretty much equivalent. I don’t.

    And I wouldn’t trade either for Headley. Maybe for Gordon.

    I value the Pitching and I agree w you that I think we need the depth for now.

  2. MTU July 29th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Padilla is a slimeball.

    Plain and simple.

    Whatever comes his way he deserves.

    ;)

  3. austinmac July 29th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    MTU,

    Padilla is, to put it kindly, nuts.

    I’m disappointed you don’t agree with me. If I weren’t going on a hike, I would write a stirring argument following which you would concede my overwhelming wisdom. Maybe tomorrow. :)

  4. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    MTU-

    I guess on this one I’ll reserve judgement until the Yankees finish the season. On Phelps, I’m not trading him because he should be in the starting rotation, and Garcia should be traded for Colon, who should be our long man! Or a Colon-lite, or is it Colon-like?

  5. austinmac July 29th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    I think of Phelps as a starter, bit who else do they have to get the outs he has been getting? I wanted Garcia to then pen, but absent that, Phelps is a necessity in the pen.

  6. MTU July 29th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Mac-

    I wish I were with you.

    Have a great hike.

    :)

    YT-

    I’m sure you are familiar with Colons. I’ll leave that up to you.

    I’m with you on Phelps in general. I hope they keep him unless they get an excellent return.

  7. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Padilla is, to put it kindly, nuts.
    ————————-
    Austinmac-

    It’s best to stay away from nuts. That’s all the Yankees need now. Tex gets drilled tonight, initiates a brawl, stumbles over his two left feet, gets injured and is out for a long time. Yankees can’t afford to lose another starting position player.

  8. MTU July 29th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Mac-

    He grew up in Nicaragua. What do you expect ?

    :)

  9. Villa Nova-Ya July 29th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    MTU -

    If winning is your ultimate goal, and for the Yankees it is, then you want your best arms on the parent club. It’s that simple. Phelps qualifies right now as one of the best arms.

    In a perfect world, things go differently – no pitcher is called up to the majors before he can be expected to pitch a perfect 9-inning game. ;) But that’s not how it goes, and it’s not how it goes especially for teams who expect to get to the post-season. For teams that deem getting to the post-season as “icing on the cake,” well, sure, they’ll go about things differently.

    Who do you replace Phelps with? Who covers those middle innings in a game like yesterday where there’s time enough for your team to come back (which they did!)?

    It’s not perfect. But again, the Yankees intentions didn’t seem to be to “jerk” Phelps around. When they saw he wasn’t getting much action, they DID send him down to stretch him out. Unfortunately, life happened, and Andy and CC went down simultaneously, and he was needed again.

    The only thing they could have done differently was to swap Garcia’s and Phelps’ roles. Evidently, the Yankees must think a couple of things: one, as a veteran, it’s Freddy’s job to lose; second, Phelps did well in that role, and could be counted on.

    Anyhoo – reasonable people will disagree on this. I think the Yankees take far too much heat in this arena.

    And second Anyhoo – gotta love Tex!

  10. MTU July 29th, 2012 at 9:28 am

    yes VN we will definitely have to agree to disagree on that one.

    As I said before I think it’s a short-sighted policy.

    ;)

  11. austinmac July 29th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    YT,

    I agree the last thing the team needs is an injury producing brawl(or do you prefer melee). The first thing they need is a bat. Jones is looking his age and more as he hasn’t been catching up to fastballs. Ibanez is an occasional hit guy. Ichiro is a singles hitter with no walks.

    Headley, Upton, Gordon would all be great. I would still be shocked if they add anyone of significance. They might–might–add someone to the pen.

  12. randy l. July 29th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    “Teixeira said he has no reason to try to clear the air with Padilla.”

    there is no reason to try to clear the air with with assholes. it just empowers them.

    and on the flip side, digging in and fighting them and their low life ways empowers you.

    counter intuitively because we are mostly taught to walk the other way from trouble,nothing is better for creativity and positive energy than going to war with low life assholes.

    the home run teixeira hit was a perfect example of that.

  13. Villa Nova-Ya July 29th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    When Joba comes back, who is sent down? Eppley?

  14. Bronx Jeers July 29th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    I’m watching this program on Showtime called The Franchise. It shows some of the inner goings-on of an MLB team. This week it’s the Marlins.

    So the team president and GM call Loria to ask him if it’s ok to trade Anibel Sanchez and Infante. Very dramatic.

    It’s like asking a fish if it’s ok to put him back in the ocean.

  15. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    That someone in the pen could be Betancourt. They have liked him over the years. He’s expensive-4.25M next year and a mutual option for the samey money in 20014.

  16. MTU July 29th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    VN-

    When Joba comes back Qualls disappears.

  17. austinmac July 29th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    Nova,

    It has to be Qualls to go, I would think.

  18. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Wasn’t able to watch the game last night but from reading the description, three take-aways I have are:
    1. CC has to do a much better job against BOS. Sorry giving up 6 runs is not acceptable and that loss is on him, period.
    2. TEX had every right to show up Padilla who has gone out of his way to bean him repeatedly. Padilla is a mutt. TEX is a pro. Serves that Padilla pig right that TEX was “cadillacking” around the bases.
    3. Granderson is a good CF but among his flaws is he frequently mis-reads line drives. I agree with the poster saying why is he playing so shallow in a tight game, should he not be in a no doubles defense?

  19. randy l. July 29th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    “It’s best to stay away from nuts. That’s all the Yankees need now. Tex gets drilled tonight, initiates a brawl, stumbles over his two left feet, gets injured and is out for a long time. Yankees can’t afford to lose another starting position player.”

    this is another school of thought with dealing with low lifes that invade your territory, but the problem is they keep it up. padilla just keeps being an asshole because too many people walk away.

    draw the line, kick his ass, maybe lose a player on your own team.

    no one f*^%KS with you for the next ten years.

    this prevents numerous future HB’s and possible injuries because no one wants to mess with someone who doesn’t take crap from assholes.

  20. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Austinmac-

    Which starting player 1 thru 9 could you replace if they get injured today from the minors and maybe get adequate production until the player comes back?

    Ibanez could be replaced only in the DH position by Branyan or Cust, who could replace Tex, if he gets drilled tonitght.

    Other than them, and I’m not a Cust or Branyan fan, the Yankees would have a tough time if anyone else is injured, replaced with their AAA players. Anyone in AA that could do the job?

  21. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Qualls is history as soon as Joba is activated. Barring any setbacks, I would be surprised if Joba isn’t in the BP by next week-end.

    I’m not sure of the fascination with Betancourt. Is his incremental value over Eppley strong enough that you give up an asset for him and fork over 4 million annually. I really don’t think so.

  22. randy l. July 29th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    of course, it’s best to wait until padilla actually drills teixeira again because people on the sidelines never remember who started things :)

    if by some chance valentine decides to hit texeira for his trot around the bases, girardi should personally seek valentine out on the field and kick his ass.

    knock him side the head with his binder :)

  23. Wang IS Taiwan July 29th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Enjoyed PeteAbe’s tweets re Tex vs. Padilla:

    ~~~~~~~~~

    Pete Abraham ?@PeteAbe
    No matter what happens, I’ll remember this game as the one where Ward Cleaver Teixeira pimped a home run.

    Pete Abraham ?@PeteAbe
    Tex crushed one and pimped it. He never pimps it, either. wow

    Pete Abraham ?@PeteAbe
    That Tex message was probably unprintable

  24. Villa Nova-Ya July 29th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    HA!

    Forgot about Qualls. Wonder why…..

    LOL

    Yes, definitely, Qualls disappears. Whew.

  25. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Randy-

    If you settle the fight and both teams empty on the field, you need a plan.

    Surround Padilla and have your most expendable player-in this case Qualls do the dirty work.

  26. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    The elephant in the room for NYY is their catching. This is the area that represents the area of need. Any moves NY makes should address this glaring weakness, but it seems as though Cashman and Girardi refuse to recognize this. I can understand them not saying beans about this publicly, but if they really believe this privately, then they are idiots. Really!

    I can understand NY not selling the farm for Headley if they do not view him as a candidate to play OF next year or too expensive to alternate with Arod at 3B next year.

    I think the BP is fine and does not need external help. Joba will arrive soon and DA in September.

    I would recall Nunez in place of Pena as soon as Nunez is game-ready. He will give the team some speed and some offense and can spell Jeter at SS.

  27. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    if by some chance valentine decides to hit texeira for his trot around the bases, girardi should personally seek valentine out on the field and kick his ass.

    knock him side the head with his binder
    ————————————
    Randy-

    Might witness some kick-ass tonight then! :)

  28. randy l. July 29th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    yankee trader-

    my plan is simple.

    fight to the death.

    once people get that, they tend to not bother you too much.

  29. austinmac July 29th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    YT,

    I agree their is no position player to fill in from AAA except Nunez and the swing and miss guys for DH. Maybe Joseph. I guess this is the result of drafting pitchers and catchers for a number of years. Are you available for RF next year? It’s either you, an old guy or a current so-so AA outfielder unless the team shows willingness to spend a decent sum on someone.

  30. Bronx Jeers July 29th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    If Padilla pitches tonight it won’t be to face Teixeira.

    But if Valentine is crazy enough to do that then yeah, Girardi should pummel him.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Triple – you are right. I should not have made that comment as it was not my fight. I apologize.

  32. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    NYY better be ready in the event Padilla beans TEX or any hitter. They cannot seemingly go out of their way as usual to say they don’t think it was intentional.

    Until Girardi creates a culture in which there will be retailiation, NY hitters will continue to be hit far more then they should. Getting hit by pitches is on Girardi, pure an simple. He allows it by what he does and doesn’t do and what he does and doesn’t expect from his pitchers in kind.
    I like the Larussa method, you hit one of my guys, I hit two of yours. Works for me.

  33. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    my plan is simple.

    fight to the death.

    once people get that, they tend to not bother you too much
    ———————————
    LMAO. Did anyone see Batman? Like a Timex-He takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

  34. Johnny. Rocket. July 29th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Another late night game today.

    Does it say in the Bible that every Yanks-Sox Sunday Game must be at night and on ESPN?

    When is the last time a Sunday Game between the teams wasn’t on ESPN?

  35. blake July 29th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    “It’s Blake who doesn’t care which one and is willing to trade either.”

    No no…trade value wise I value Nova more because of the contract status….pitcher wise on field I like them both goibg forward pretty equally.

  36. BD (Boston Dave) July 29th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Padilla drives a bright orange “hey look at me” Lamorghini.

    If I see it again I’ll consider beaning it… but I can’t afford the repairs so maybe I’ll just throw cooked black beans.

  37. blake July 29th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Thats so out of character for Tex….Padilla must really be a first class dirt bag

  38. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am

    Unknown, I’ve called you a stalker on many occasions. And I needed to reference your post to make a point about another. I certainly would have had no need, nor desire, to reference you otherwise. It’s a breath of fresh air when you’re not around.

    Yes, you called me out on my “idiotic” post. And I acknowledged that I made a mistake in posting it. But that wasn’t enough for you. You needed to high five another post that disaparaged me for doing it. Who has the issue here?

    In any event, I find in-fighting distasteful so I’ve agreed not to be part of it. You, on the other hand, are free to continue to shots at e every chance you get. It will be evident to all just which one of us has a problem with the other. And oh, I referred to you as spanky, and those other cute names each time you felt the need to take a nasty shot at me. Just so we get the chronology straight.

    ********************

    “if nobody responded to you negatively then you would leave and not come around here at all.”

    Since that should make you very happy, how about you start the chain? Because everyone knows just how much I thrive on things that are negative.

    :roll:

  39. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am

    I’m still laughing at some of your retaliation ideas. I have to go now, and get ready for the big wiffle ball game I have this afternoon. I swear, if someone beans me, I’m rushing the opposing team with my plastic bat and whamo!!! :)

    Have a great day and go Phelps-both David and Michael!!

    Until later.

  40. RSM July 29th, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Never thought I’d miss Shelly Duncan, but he’d come in handy for these games when Padilla pitches ;)

    Maybe Martin can prove useful this season afterall.

  41. Johnny. Rocket. July 29th, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Dumblont is a very, very good pitcher.

    Don’t underestimate him.

  42. blake July 29th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Latest On Possible Extensions For Wright, Cano

    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 29 at 8:28am CST]

    David Wright is more than a year away from hitting free agency, but the Mets hope to sign him to an extension sooner, rather than later, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports. The Mets don’t want to experience the tension that would occur if Wright enters the 2013 without a long-term deal, and the team’s officials sound confident they’ll find common ground with the ACES client this offseason.

    Wright earns $15MM this season and his contract includes a $16MM club option for 2013 ($1MM buyout) that will definitely be exercised. The 29-year-old is playing at an MVP level this year, which means the Mets probably can’t expect to lock him up for a deal similar to Ryan Zimmerman’s six-year, $100MM contract.

    Cano’s contract status is similar to Wright’s. The second baseman earns $14MM this year and his contract includes a $15MM club option ($2MM buyout for 2013). Like Wright, Cano is playing at an MVP level and his contract option is sure to be picked up. The Yankees have a club policy of waiting for players to hit free agency before negotiating contracts, but Cano says he’d listen if the Yankees have a proposal.

    “I am always open to hearing anything,” he said, according to Sherman. “If it works for both sides, that is great. But I have to hear an offer.”

    The Yankees aim to avoid the luxury tax by 2014, so GM Brian Cashman might have to get creative to retain Cano and Curtis Granderson (Granderson is also under team control through 2013). Cano, 29, felt underpaid on the contract he signed with his previous representatives and wants to make a score on his next contract, Sherman reports.

    Agent Scott Boras, who represents Cano, said it costs elite prices to buy elite players out of free agent years. Boras pointed out that the Yankees generate far more revenue than most teams and said clubs sometimes have to commit to ten-year deals for the privilege of locking up an elite player for his prime years.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

  43. Giuseppe Franco July 29th, 2012 at 10:18 am

    yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    NYY better be ready in the event Padilla beans TEX or any hitter. They cannot seemingly go out of their way as usual to say they don’t think it was intentional.

    Until Girardi creates a culture in which there will be retailiation, NY hitters will continue to be hit far more then they should. Getting hit by pitches is on Girardi, pure an simple. He allows it by what he does and doesn’t do and what he does and doesn’t expect from his pitchers in kind.
    I like the Larussa method, you hit one of my guys, I hit two of yours. Works for me.

    ————

    Good grief.

    This team isn’t going to win any bonus points getting into bean brawls with teams that are essentially out of the playoff hunt.

    All they care about is winning ballgames and that’s the way it should be.

  44. blake July 29th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Id offer Cano 6 years tacked on to his 2013 option….anything longer than that and youre not getting enough benefit from signing him early IMO.

  45. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    GF

    If one of NY starters goes down due to a HBP, does this not cost NY games?

    Good grief.

  46. blake July 29th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    6/130 extension added to his option makes the total deal 7/145. Hed be 31 when the extension startes and that deal would take him through age 37 or so……any more than that and its too risky a year away from free agency and Id probably lean towards waiting…..if youre not saving money or years then there is no point in doing it early.

  47. randy l. July 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    “Padilla drives a bright orange “hey look at me” Lamorghini.”

    yeah , that comes in handy in boston traffic and on 128.

    on the other hand, it’ll go well with the orange jumpsuit padilla will likely be wearing someday .

  48. RadioKev July 29th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Good Morning all. Anyone enjoying the Olympics?

    Watching the women’s road race right now.

  49. randy l. July 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    “This team isn’t going to win any bonus points getting into bean brawls with teams that are essentially out of the playoff hunt.”

    every single player on both sides is watching padilla/teixeira and how this plays out.

    you let padilla do one more thing and you tell every other red sox pitcher they can get away with it too.

    zero tolerance is a deterrent.

  50. Giuseppe Franco July 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    GF

    If one of NY starters goes down due to a HBP, does this not cost NY games?

    Good grief.

    ————-

    Didn’t that already happen to A-Rod? On a change up?

    Sh!t happens.

    Whether Girardi had ordered his pitcher to retaliate against Seattle or not, they would still have lost A-Rod for 8 weeks and further action could leave other members of their team open to injury as well.

    Torre didn’t engage in bean brawls either. Just win ballgames. Period.

  51. Giuseppe Franco July 29th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    randy l. July 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    zero tolerance is a deterrent.

    ———

    It’s not a deterrent if the guy has a long history of such behavior, as Padilla does.

  52. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    All this makes you wonder if maybe 4,000 could happen and perhaps reaching Rose’s mark is not totally out of the question. Jeter is at 3,216 hits. On July 29, 1979, when Rose was 38, he had 3,283 hits.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....o-the-left

  53. Yanks78 July 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Boras has the Yankees by the you know what though… he knows they can’t lose Cano

    They have much more leverage on Granderson.

  54. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Chase Headley is still an option for the Bombers, who could use him at third base while A-Rod is hurt and then potentially stick him in right field to replace Nick Swisher next season. The two sides have not exchanged names yet, and the Yankees worry the asking price will be too high [Ken Rosenthal & Joel Sherman]

    RAB

  55. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    While the Yanks have received zero return from Pineda this year, the Mariners haven’t had much production (0.2 WAR) from Zeus either. He’s destroyed lefties (.373/.409/.588) but has struggled mightily against righties (.204/.246/.301) which is the 2nd worst right handed platoon split in all of baseball. Unfortunately for him and the Mariners two thirds of the American League is right handed on an annual basis. Given the lack of value he provides defensively, . Montero doesn’t walk and chases too many pitches out of the zone, especially sliders. Both traits were evident in his time with the Yankees. When the Yanks brought him up last September they picked their spots with him, which is why I never took his .328/.406/.590 line all that seriously. Never believe anything in April or September, or first time through the league.

    http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/.....-ipk-43391

  56. blake July 29th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Jeter is ahead of Rose’s pace…..but Rose hung on forever….was a player/manager etc to get to where he did…..I can’t see Jeter doing that….but top 5 all time is realistic for sure

  57. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Blake,

    Jeter is actually slightly behind Rose’s pace. 4,000 is what I want to see.

  58. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Have the Yankees changed their “fix-from-within” philosophy on third base?

    They have talked to the Padres about San Diego third baseman Chase Headley, according to a major-league source. But the source characterized the discussion as the Yankees merely checking in on Headley’s market.

    “Names have not been exchanged,” the source said Saturday, although it’s always possible that talks could move forward.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z221WW0kAK

  59. Uncle Ellsworth July 29th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    A busy day under the O’Neill banner.

  60. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Teixeira on pace for 115 RBI

  61. CountryClub July 29th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    That Sherman article on Cano ended with boras flat out saying that teams have to accept the crappy years at the end of a ten yr contract to get the good 6 or 7 years in the beginning of the deal.

    It’s unpopular around here, but if I were the yanks, I wouldn’t give Cano more than 7 yrs. To be honest, it’d be hard to give him more than 6.

  62. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN

    To this moment,Padres aren’t far down the road in their Headley trade talks. Might table it to the winter,when more teams would be involved.

  63. mick July 29th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Headley is a switcher who wears # 7.

  64. mick July 29th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Chase Headley is still an option for the Bombers, who could use him at third base while A-Rod is hurt and then potentially stick him in right field to replace Nick Swisher next season.
    =========================================
    Looks like he’s played some LF to no avail.
    Leave Ichiro in RF.

  65. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    I would take on Headley if the price is right and as long as they still sign Melky for RF. Headley could play LF and 3B. Bring back Ichiro to DH and play LF. Trade Brett Gardner when he’s healthy or make him the 4th OF.

  66. 86w183 July 29th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Next 48 hours or so will be interesting to see what if anything Cashman does.

    I’d love to see them pick up Jaso to replace Stewwart and give them a little LH/RH thing behind the plate. Do that and activate Joba and I’m good to go.

    I’d be quite content with a Headley deal, but really have no idea what the price might be. Phelps and Banunelos are the only young arms worth protecting from what I’ve seen.

    Padilla is a punk of the highest order. Valentine is almost certain to try and get him in tonight to throw at Tex if the situation warrants. Hope the umpires are ready.

  67. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN

    To this moment,Padres aren’t far down the road in their Headley trade talks. Might table it to the winter,when more teams would be involved.

    *************

    More teams involved? When the Padres first floated his name there were said to be at least SIX teams involved. Why the sudden reversal?

  68. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    86,

    Would you trade Phelps for Headley? I would not hesitate to do that.

  69. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Rosenthal trade targets:

    Phil Hughes, Yankees

    Not as crazy an idea as you might think.

    I wouldn’t expect the Yankees to compromise their starting-pitching depth, even with an 8½-game lead in the AL East. But Hughes is a free agent after next season, and he again might be nothing more than a reliever in the playoffs if lefty Andy Pettitte makes a successful return from a fractured left ankle.

    OK, that’s a big “if” on Pettitte, but the Yankees wouldn’t exactly be barren even if they traded Hughes. Righty David Phelps, whom some club officials expect to be in the team’s 2013 rotation, has a 2.59 ERA in 48-2/3 innings, including three starts. And righty Joba Chamberlian soon will return from right ankle surgery to bolster the bullpen.

    What if the Yankees could turn Hughes into a younger pitcher or, perhaps, a right fielder who next season could replace Nick Swisher, a potential free agent?

    Is that so crazy?

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ine-072912

  70. bruceb July 29th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Another late night game today.

    Does it say in the Bible that every Yanks-Sox Sunday Game must be at night and on ESPN?

    When is the last time a Sunday Game between the teams wasn’t on ESPN?

    Absolutely sucks. Not only that, there are thunderstorms forecast for tonight. The good news is that it should be clear after midnight so we’ll be able to watch the game and then go straight to work. It’s time for ESPN to dispense with this Sunday night game, particularly one that involves two teams on the East Coast.

  71. MG July 29th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    It’s highly doubtful Padilla faces Teix again tonight or in any other close game situation after his triple and HR in their last two meetings.

    Valentine may not be the nicest guy in the world but he does know baseball and putting Padilla in another of those situations won’t win him any friends in his clubhouse, that is far more important than stupid retaliation.

  72. CountryClub July 29th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    The only way it would make sense to trade Hughes is if they got a legit, cost controlled bat. I wouldn’t move him for a younger pitcher (as rosenthal mentioned).

  73. RhapsodyInBlue July 29th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Padilla need to be introduced to shampoo and a put away pitch other than a beanball.

    Dumpy slimeball.

  74. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS

    after 2 straight losses to #braves, #phillies may start partial sale. victorino, pierre & blanton 1st candidates. pence a ?

    *********

    It’s hard to believe with Howard and Utley back and the Phillies looking like the old Phillies on paper that they will have a full-blown fire sale. I think they will try to cash out some players on their way out like Victorino and Pierre but they will keep Pence. I would think they’d be open to moving Cliff Lee with Hamels back. They need that money for offense in the offseason.

  75. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    “Is that so crazy?”

    No its not crazy…..but you have to name names when discussing it to know if it would make sense or not……its easy to say “lets trade Hughes for a younger pitcher or a young outfielder ” ….but if we dont know who we are talking about here then its tough to discuss

  76. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Next 48 hours or so will be interesting to see what if anything Cashman does.

    I’d love to see them pick up Jaso to replace Stewwart and give them a little LH/RH thing behind the plate. Do that and activate Joba and I’m good to go….

    Let’s say SEA is open to moving Jason to NYY,, who do you consider exchanging for him?

  77. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    I think the steal of this trade deadline will turn out to be Hanley Ramirez. The Dodgers still need to add one more bat though.

  78. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    “I think the steal of this trade deadline will turn out to be Hanley Ramirez.”

    Totally agree…..the upside of that deal is gigantic for the Dodgers….

  79. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Jaso would be an awesome pick up.

  80. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Blake,

    Would you trade Phil Hughes for Chase Headley (in a 3-team deal since the Padres would probably want someone more long-term than Hughes)?

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Just in terms of generic baseball talk, can anyone explain to me the sensibility in assuming that only the top teams are worthy of beating the Yankees and only the best players on any team are worthy of beating the Yankees? Doesn’t history show that any team on any day can win a game? And haven’t we seen .161 hitters (for example) get winning hits? Maybe it’s that people feel that if the Yankees are to get beat, it should only be by the best?

    I just think it’s foolhardy to ever believe that any major leaguer does not have the ability to get the job done on any given day. I always point to the Nats sweeping the Yankees at the Stadium several seasons back, when the Nats were a last-place team, as an example.

    Whether someone is a “scrub” in your mind, or a career minor leaguer, or a team is a “joke” team, these are baseball players who have managed to make it to the bigs. They all have something to offer. I just think it’s crazy to underestimate them and also for anyone to make a statement that the Yankees don’t deserve to win if they get beat by “X”.

  82. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    It’s hard to believe with Howard and Utley back and the Phillies looking like the old Phillies ”

    I think the operative word there is “OLD” Phillies.

  83. MG July 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    I just saw the replay Grandy’s misplay of the flyball last night-he may take bad routes on balls every once in awhile but that was a once in 5 year type bad play, I don’t know how it was scored a triple instead of an error, it was just a routine out.

  84. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    “Would you trade Phil Hughes for Chase Headley (in a 3-team deal since the Padres would probably want someone more long-term than Hughes)?”

    Thats a tough call…..Id think about it…..but Id prefer to deal Phelps rather than Hughes to be honest. I want to win this year and Hughes is more of a factor now….I really like how they are both throwing the ball though.

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    In terms of the trade deadline, I am not going to be surprised if the Yanks sit pat, nor if we hear about a deal. Stealth Cashman has shown he is capable of either.

    :)

  86. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Blake,

    Would you rather trade Phelps over Hughes even if the plan is to pitch Hughes out of the pen in the playoffs with CC, Andy, Kuroda and Nova taking the 4 starts?

    Without Hughes you could still throw CC, Andy, Kuroda and Nova and have Phelps in the pen with Soriano, D-Rob and Joba.

  87. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    As I said this morning….part of the reason I like Headley is because of the options he would give the Yanks this offseason.

    He can help now and also he gives them a cheap RF option for next year or he could be used as a nice trade chip as well…..the Dbacks are already said to have interest in him both those clubs dislike each other and it would be hard to deal. The Yanks could use Headley this year and then potentially flip him for Upton this winter…..just a thought…..but hed give them options.

  88. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    “Would you rather trade Phelps over Hughes even if the plan is to pitch Hughes out of the pen in the playoffs with CC, Andy, Kuroda and Nova taking the 4 starts?”

    No….but we dont know thatll be the case. I like the direction Hughes is heading…..

  89. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    I just dont think Cashman would deal feom his current rotation….juat doesnt seem like something hed do.

  90. 86w183 July 29th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Hughes would be soooo good in an NL West park.

    Yes, I would do Headley for Phelps, but it would hurt. I would think if you put Hughes into the conversation then perhaps Upton or Garlos Gonzalez becomes doable.

    Nothing that big in-season for me.

    Jaso shouldn’t cost a whole lot. Adam Warren?

  91. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Scattered thunderstorms in Trenton at first pitch, but lessening chance as we go deeper into the game. Good news because sounds like Joba will be able to pitch. Will see if Cash is there and find out when Joba will begin to be stretched out for the SP. ;)

  92. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Well, not knowing what the plan is or isn’t I would trade Hughes for Headley and go with CC, Andy, Kuroda and Nova. I would keep Phelps as a reliever for the playoffs with Soriano, Robertson and Chamberlain and I would still have Phelps for 2014 at a low price that allows me to absorb another long-term bat like Melky or Upton.

  93. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    “Hughes would be soooo good in an NL West park.”

    Yea….he would kill it in Petco…..or Dodger Stadium……or SF.

  94. BIG AL July 29th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    “this is another school of thought with dealing with low lifes that invade your territory, but the problem is they keep it up. padilla just keeps being an asshole because too many people walk away.

    draw the line, kick his ass, maybe lose a player on your own team.

    no one f*^%KS with you for the next ten years.

    this prevents numerous future HB’s and possible injuries because no one wants to mess with someone who doesn’t take crap from assholes.”

    ************************************************************

    Talk about stupidity, to advocate a player act like some kid on a playground and get into a fight, that could cause serious injury, thus hurting not only himself but his team is just dumb. And then to say, “maybe lose a player on your own team”, is so telling about the lack of common sense one must have to write such dribble.

  95. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    I am not trading either Hughes or Nova (or Betances) and will hopefully breathe a sigh of relief once July 31st passes.

  96. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    But if Cashman does a trade, I don’t think it’s a big one because I just don’t think he gives up a lot for a two-month rental – if it is for 3B. What else do we need? I don’t see a new catcher being brought on. We have two. And what I mean by that is that I don’t see the Yankees dissing Martin or Stewart. I’m sure they recognize that a lot of offense isn’t coming from Martin, though he does have a long hit every once in a while. I just don’t think they see the need that fans do with the Yanks pretty firmly ensconced in first place.

    JMO

  97. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    The Dodgers mjght would over pay for Hughes….wonder how they rate him against Garza? Hughes is younger and would be cheaper to extend and is from Cali….

  98. bruceb July 29th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Yanks are three players short of having a very good team…Joba, Pettitte and a healthy A-Rod.

  99. jmills July 29th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Boy this blackberry has a mind and probably inherent sentient nature of its own-reduces me to crazy one liners:) I hope we all have a fun day with everyone enjoying this site which is really just an escape from the real world stresses we all have to face. Nice thing about a blog is that it removes all physical dimensions-we get to meet minds for minds’ sake – I’ll try and come with an interesting post or two but can’t gurantee anything beyond the banal – interesting people on this site with a remarkable concern for word choice, great to see

  100. jr1212 July 29th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    I dont think Cashman trades Hughes during the season especially considering how he has been pitching lately. With the uncertainty of Pettite it wouldnt be smart IMO. I think Cash might consider it during the offseason if Pettite or Kuroda come back.

  101. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    If Magic and Ned called up and said we’ll give you Zach Lee for Hughes would you do it?

  102. blake July 29th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Offer Hughes for Profar :)

  103. Uncle Ellsworth July 29th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Jmills – just stay clear of any pod bay doors you may encounter.

  104. Yanks78 July 29th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    “If Magic and Ned called up and said we’ll give you Zach Lee for Hughes would you do it?”

    Good one. Yea, I probably would.

  105. BIG AL July 29th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Trisha -

    Good morning. I agree with your statement. It appears some here do not understand the Yankees are the best team in the AL, and being human, they will have a back series, a few setbacks during the course of the season, but, in the end the will still be atop of the league.

    All the changes other teams feel compelled to make, sending their top prospects to other teams, is all in an effort to try and come up to a level they can better compete with the Yankees.

  106. The Return of Stoneburner July 29th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    when Joba will begin to be stretched out for the SP

    *******

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTxr2NJHa0

  107. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    In any move at this TD the NYY need to think to next year’s SP rotation. At this point, NY has CC, Nova and Hughes. There is no sure thing that either Andy or Kuroda want to pitch next year or NYY is willing to pony up the coin to secure them if one or both does.

    Forget Banuelos and Betances both of them are not ready due to either injury or non-performance. Forget Pineda too who is a long shot for him to be able to pitch again much less make the staff and be effective once the season begins.

    Which leaves NYY with Phelps or Warren as candidates to replace Pettitte, and Kuroda. If NY trades Hughes or Nova at this TD or off-season they better be damn sure they have some committment in place with Kuroda or Pettitte or they believe enough in Phelps or Warren. Otherwise NY is back in the same old position of having to go out on the market for a SP.

  108. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    “I am not trading either Hughes or Nova (or Betances) and will hopefully breathe a sigh of relief once July 31st passes.”

    YF – I’m with you. Just from a practical Yankee sense (is that redundant?) they value pitching so highly that I cannot imagine them trading pitchers. It’s not like we are hurting at any position to the extent that we need to trade away our future.

    Oh yeah, I’ve decided that Hughes and Nova – and hopefully Betances – are part of the Yankees future.

  109. jr1212 July 29th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Yankee21,

    I agree 100%. It would be huge if Pineda can return effectively next year but that cant be counted on. The Yanks next year have to worry about C, RF, DH or 3b (depending on Arod) and one SP. Trading Hughes or Nova now just adds more need next year

  110. Benny Blanco July 29th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    I love it how we are just ruling pineda for next year.

  111. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    NYYsystem is knee deep in SP prospects. You can look at every level and see at least 1-3 guys who if he stays healthy (big if) and progresses can profile at least as a mid-back-end rotation kind of arm. You can start with AA and look at Bret Marshall who was bypassed by a number of teams because he made it clear he was only interested in signing with NYY.

    So I am not as reluctant to move one of Hughes or Nova for a legitimate bat. As long as NYY has a plan in place to replace these guys without having to go out on the market and over-pay.

    Hughes has to be enticing to SD. He would dominate in that pitchers park and serve up fly balls all game without getting burned.

  112. Benny Blanco July 29th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    ruling out*

  113. jr1212 July 29th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Benny Blanco,

    I dont think anyone is ruling him out, but you cant count on him at this point. Its a tough injury and recovery. Nobody know at this time how and when he will come. Hopefully he shows his potential next year but IMO the Yanks cant pencil him to the rotation for next year

  114. Johnny. Rocket. July 29th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Prediction: Pineda will not make another major league pitch.

    Want to bet?

  115. randy l. July 29th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    “Prediction: Pineda will not make another major league pitch.

    Want to bet?”

    yeah

    i bet he will.

    the bet is if he does , you’re off the blog.

    if he doesn’t, i’m off the blog starting first game next season until he does.

    put your money where your mouth is or STFU.

  116. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Hi Big Al! So good to see you here!

    :)

  117. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    I’m definitely not ruling Pineda out Benny. In fact I have him pencilled in. There’s some kind of magic in Yankee pitcher recovery – see Joba, Mo, and Pineda ahead of schedule!

  118. 86w183 July 29th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    I’m pretty confident Pineda will be good to go for April, but the Yanks have to plan as if he wont be. That means that have to hold on to two of the three young arms — Nova, hughes and Phelps — going forward.

    Hughes costs the most of the three, but also has great value to a team in a larger, pitcher friendly yard.

    Nova has the best combination of performance and cost effectiveness

    Phelps is much better than a long reliever or # 5 starter in my mind.

    Would hate to move any of them unless they know for sure that Kuroda or Pettite will be back at decent $$$.

    Fun to kick around, but the most likely move is to either find a LH hitting catcher or a RH hitting 3B who is versatile enough to play elsewhere.

  119. BIG AL July 29th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    It’s just a part of the game, teams having injuries, and some more than others, but, the difference being the Yankees find a way to win, while others sit back and cry about it.

  120. Yanks78 July 29th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    They should also be proactive in trying to trade Granderson in the winter, if they don’t feel they can match his $100+ million dollar pricetag next winter. Forward-thinking is the name of the game if they want to make this budget thing work. Not their typical “shoot first, question later” strategy and letting everyone go to FA and then dealing with them, and filling needs as they arrive. They need to anticipate their needs, evaluate farm strengths/weaknesses, and objectively analyze the performances they can expect from their current players.

    Like they did with Pineda, they can’t just get mesmerized by commodities, they need to see if the commodity fits, if it makes sense given the composition of their farm/roster, and if the piece (Montero) could have been utilized to fill another, more pressing need, like a young bat.

  121. yankee21 July 29th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    I’m flat ruling out Pineda making the team as a SP for NY out of the 2013 gate. He should not be in the teams plans. when they break spring training. If he is, then NYY is going against the odds. Shoulder injuries to pitchers are almost a death sentence.

    Joba is a freak of nature- for him to come back when he is nothing short of astonishing.

    Take Jeremy Bleich as a better test case. How long was he out before he started throwing again? He had a shoulder injury and went under the knife in 2010 and ust started appearing in GCL games a month or so ago.

  122. jmills July 29th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    Interesting-Jays lost Arencibia and will now have a pure handler in the weak hitting Mathis – maybe now that he is full time, he can direct some magic – I know you guys aren’t necessarily happy with Martin, but if he handles well, what a huge component that knows no stat constraint

  123. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Except Marshall isn’t a Yankee type of pitcher b/c in their eyes in spite of his success, he doesn’t get enough swings and misses. But slider is getting there, and he is working on a CB. We shall see.

    I think J-Ram will move quickly. I hope to see him in AA soon. Btw, Turley pitched in relief last night for Tampa. Now has about 6 IP in relief.

    I hope to see Adams play 3B again today in the Joba game.

  124. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Bleich has certainly had a long road back. Good news is that he just pitched his first 2 innings of the 2012 season in high A ball a couple of days ago.

  125. MTU July 29th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    YF-

    I’d like to hear your impression(s) of Adams at 3rd.

    I asked this AM if anyone though he had the arm and quickness needed ?

    He can hit. Still only 25.

  126. The Return of Stoneburner July 29th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    SMH –

    Marshall has a 1.45 ERA, a 0.857 WHIP and 9.16 K/9 IP in last three starts. He has allowed 3 ER on 15 H while walking one and striking out 19 in 18+ IP.

  127. jr1212 July 29th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    While I agree about not counting on Pineda for the start of next year, im not ruling him out. No one knows how he will recover but according to some reports his shoulder surgery wasnt too abbresive. If I recall correctly Pineda said he will start throwing in September. There could be setbacks but if he is planning on throwing in September that would be great. Saying that im not ready to pencil him in until he is further down the line with his recovery

  128. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 29th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    jmills – I didn’t know you lost Arencebia. Is it something in the drinking water? Boy you guys are snakebitten!

  129. The Return of Stoneburner July 29th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Good news is that he just pitched his first 2 innings of the 2012 season in high A ball a couple of days ago.

    ******

    Ambiguous – ambiguous – ambiguous sentence

    Do you mean he pitched his 2 innings for the 2012?

    Or his first 2 innings in JUST the florida state league for tampa?

    Remember – real professional scouts cannot afford to be ambiguous in their reports to their supervisors or management – this statement would not pass for a real scout – now an amateur arm chair scout – possibly – but I would want it clarified.

  130. jmills July 29th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Trish,…it certainly has been the year of the injury,……………….for everybody. Fun to see Snider and Gose and we really haven’t missed Bautista,…so far :)

  131. CompassRosy July 29th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Jaso would be an awesome pick up.

    ~

    blake ~

    You can have Olivo ;)

    Seriously though, I don’t see the M’s changing up their catching situation at this point.
    Jaso has proven his worth (and then some) as a bench bat and BUC and, as awful as Olivo has been offensively, he is a good role model for Jesus (and, quite frankly, the entire young team) from the “heart and hustle” standpoint. Jaso is on a one year deal and Olivo has an option for next season.

    It’s WAY early but, Zunino appears to be on the fast track to the bigs so, I can see the M’s re-signing Jaso for a couple years and going with the platoon of Jaso/Montero until then.

    ====

    YF ~

    Speaking of Zunino, I’m finally going to get to Everett in the next couple of weeks…
    M’s single A team about 40 miles north of Seattle where Zunino is starting his pro career (and, at the moment, tearing it up!)

  132. BIG AL July 29th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Y’all have a good day. GO YANKEES!

  133. Bo knows July 29th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Yankfem
    Could you take a look at Pirela. He came out of no where and has put together an excellent year in AA.

  134. The Return of Stoneburner July 29th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    The poetics – reading stats on milb.com

    The wax – going to a trenton baseball game

    The wax poetics – somehow being an expert on all things prospects – to say Marshall is not a Yankees type pitcher –

    The wax poetics of amateur elitist arm chair scouting

    the elitist fan boys continues – even though they receive 85% of their information from a Callis, a Teale, a Goldenstein, a Pinstripes with that Plus, the America of the Baseball in Durham, NC, a Keith Law

    What is interesting is that these places get their information from the evaluators and scouts who these elitist prospect watchers criticize with such ease – - – -

    the wax poetics of it all – - – -

  135. 86w183 July 29th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Jeremy Bleich couldn’t throw hard before the surgery. He has nothing in common with Pineda.

    Jake Peavy might be a better comparison, but I don’t know how similar the extent of his and Pineda’s injuries/surgeries were.

    Clemens, Bedard, Lilly and Kerry Wood are others who had some sort of labrum surgery and came back. One positive for Pineda is, according to Dr. Andrews he did not have rotator cuff damage

    Either way time will tell…. but the planning has to be under the assumption he wont be back.

  136. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    I actually really like Marshall and have been a fan of his for a few years, but the Yanks are the ones who prefer power arms. If he adds the breaking pitches, they will like him more…

    MTU, Adams is more athletic than either Corban or Laird. He made a very agile play going to his right yesterday, stabbing a LD shot while almost parallel with the ground. A similar ball got past him but it was a tough play. Not sure about how he’d be going to his left. He has a very strong arm which should play well at 3rd. He’s probably our best option right now.

  137. MTU July 29th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Thank you YF.

    Much appreciated.

  138. Bret The Hitman July 29th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    I wouldn’t hesitate to trade Phil Hughes directly or indirectly for a team with a long-term position player like Headley. Phelps is ready now. Andy is one month away. Freddy Garcia could be insurance at that point. It’s just one month or 4 starts of Phelps in place of Hughes.

    When you plan next year’s rotation you have to figure Andy (just ask him) or Kuroda (just ask him) comes back. You also have to figure all the one-year stop gap options out there in the 2013 FA class. There will be plenty of guys like Erik Bedard.

    CC
    Andy/Kuroda
    Nova
    Phelps
    Stopgap FA until Pineda is ready

    Banuelos
    Betances

  139. Jackson July 29th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Excellent article on what catchers go through during a game, in this case, Martin:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07.....ref=sports

    Sorry if already posted.

  140. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    No one is comparing Bleich to Pineda and no Bleich didn’t/doesn’t have the power arm. Plus Bleich is a lefty…

  141. RadioKev July 29th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Jackson July 29th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    Excellent article on what catchers go through during a game, in this case, Martin:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07…..ref=sports

    Sorry if already posted.
    ————-

    Just finished this, great read.

  142. RhapsodyInBlue July 29th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    I noticed Friday night that while making a play Ichiro tore up a sizable piece of sod in the outfield.

    I missed the Granderson play and replay last evening and read that he stumbled, for those who saw it was it the turf?

    I know it rained like hell yesterday but they did dig up the turf for the soccer game while the Yankees were on the west coast, I’m wondering if the conditions in the outfield are not back to normal because of it.

  143. Dionysius Thelxinoe July 29th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    randy l. says:
    July 29, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    “Prediction: Pineda will not make another major league pitch.

    Want to bet?”

    yeah

    i bet he will.

    the bet is if he does , you’re off the blog.

    if he doesn’t, i’m off the blog starting first game next season until he does.

    put your money where your mouth is or STFU.

    ——-

    Great, great response, Mr. Randy.

    Thank you.

  144. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    Bo, Pirela can hit for sure. But he is repeating AA. His fielding is questionable. He was a pretty abysmal SS in the past, and while better at 2B, very erratic. He’s actually been getting some DH time lately with Cody Johnson out. And even some LF.

  145. 86w183 July 29th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    No one is comparing Bleich to Pineda and no Bleich didn’t/doesn’t have the power arm. Plus Bleich is a lefty…

    ************************************************************************

    Actually that is precisely what Yankee 21 did @ 12:43.

    I just love amateur doctoring

    As for Mike Zunino….. I know the kid well and have seen him play a ton. He could be in Seattle by the end of 2013. Loads of talent, super high character kid.

  146. theREALkevin July 29th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Here’s what Martin goes through in a game- catches for a bit, gets an AB, makes an out. Catches for a while longer, makes an out. Allows another runner to steal, (the defensive wizard is below avg in caught stealing), gets another AB, makes an out. After the game, Girardi consoles him and tells him will DH when he doesn’t catch, despite the fact that he is hitting in the .180s.

    Isn’t it gonna be funny when Montero becomes a good hitter AND a good defensive catcher? And of course Pineda will probably never be the same. What a trade, and what a catching corp we have! Awesome.

  147. Johnny. Rocket. July 29th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Looks like I will be winning yet another bet.

  148. Bo knows July 29th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    YF
    Thank you very much. A lot of envy, I love MILB baseball. Once upon a time I had a chance to watch Devo play for a season. That was sublime.

  149. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    86, I thought he was discussing potential rehab time, which of course is hard to evaluate with two different players. Was he comparing the type of arms? Either way, not my discussion, so I will bow out; carry on.

    MTU, you are welcome.

  150. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

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  151. blake July 29th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

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  155. blake July 29th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

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    I dont know what Id give….but hes a difference maker…..hed immediately be their 2nd best player.

  156. Bo knows July 29th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    High on my wish list was sign Beltran and trade Swisher for a pup in the minors. Ah well, it was probably too complicated

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  160. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Heading to Waterfront Park. Adams is again playing 3B. Joba details below. Go Joba!

    . 2:15 PM — Lineups:

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    Harrisburg lineup: Goodwin CF, Skelton LF, Van Ostrand RF, Walters SS, Bloxom DH, Pahuta 1B, Nicol 2B, Lozada 3B, Ivany C, Perry P

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  162. Giuseppe Franco July 29th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

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  163. blake July 29th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    “I still can’t believe people are willing to trade starting pitchers from our staff right now………..”

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  164. 86w183 July 29th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

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    No one is eager to “get rid” of anyone. It’s more a matter of what would you like to add and what would be the price. That’s what being a make believe GM is all about.

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    True, the Yanks don’t take one step backward to take two forward.

    That’s why I’m pretty sure they’ll keep Granderson for 2013 but lose him to FA after.

    Only way I seem them dealing him is if they grab a Headley and/or pursue Melky and/or BJ Upton. This off-season would be a great time for the Yanks to experience the joy of “sell high” transactions where the Grandy-Man is concerned.

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  169. blake July 29th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    “That’s why I’m pretty sure they’ll keep Granderson for 2013 but lose him to FA after.”

    Yea I thibk they should at least see what his market is this winter…..but I dont expect them to…….they are kinda one foot in this new payroll stuff….they seem to want to do it but are reluctant to go all in on how to maximize their budget and assets…..and least thats how it seems……

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  171. GregD July 29th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

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    I still can’t believe people are willing to trade starting pitchers from our staff right now……

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    They say that you have to have money to make money. Well, I say that you have to trade quality to get quality.

    No one is eager to “get rid” of anyone. It’s more a matter of what would you like to add and what would be the price. That’s what being a make believe GM is all about.

    Ideally you could get Justin Upton for three kids in Staten Island and Chase Headley for a couple of GCL kids and some shoe laces.

    ————————–

    of course you have to trade quality to get quality but you don’t trade starting pitching that you need to win this year unless you can replace it and the Yankees have no more depth to play with

  172. Nick in SF July 29th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    “Wei-Yin Chen just set a new MLB record for the most strikeouts in a game (11) by a Taiwanese born pitcher.”

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  174. Nick in SF July 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

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  175. blake July 29th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Duquette has to get some credit …..Chen was totally under the radar and hes made some ither nice moves as well…..

  176. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

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  177. yankeefeminista July 29th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

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  181. blake July 29th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

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    Im not sure….maybe….I thibk he will hit but not sure if he can play the outfield really….itd be one of those deals that make the Yabks wirse this year but maybe better long term….id be less likely to do it if he cant play outfield though and Im not sure he can

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