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Pitching matchups vs. Orioles

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 30, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Tonight
RHP Freddy Garcia (4-4, 5.16)
vs.
RHP Miguel Gonzalez (2-2, 4.28)
7:05 p.m., YES Network

Tuesday
RHP Ivan Nova (10-4, 4.08)
vs.
RHP Chris Tillman (3-1, 1.66)
7:05 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network 

Wednesday
RHP Phil Hughes (10-8, 4.08)
vs.
LHP Zach Britton (1-0, 5.74)
1:05 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network

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192 Responses to “Pitching matchups vs. Orioles”

  1. jacksquat July 30th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    With Ichiro is LF only 1 run scores in the first inning. Different ballgame.

    Hopefully Swisher is back in RF today so Joe can finally feel like it’s time to put Ichiro on the big side of the outfield.

  2. jacksquat July 30th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Ichiro *in* LF

  3. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    joe from Long Island July 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    warning track power – i didn’t need the espn announcers to tell me that, i could see it for myself, it was so obvious. brett gardner, or ichiro, would have cut that ball off and saved a run.

    i don’t think jones was cramping, i think that’s how he runs these days. i’ve seen him with the same gait for a while now. i think one of the considerations for the playoffs – bobby v notwithstanding – is whether to leave jonesy off the roster, in favor of a chris dickerson type who’s more of a complete player.
    ————————————————————————————————

    If Dickerson was a righty, then that might work. But the guy is a lefty, so in the playoffs, the Yankees are going to need A. Jones and his right handed bat.

  4. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 36s Yankees not expected to be in the mix in the Cliff Lee talks, because they don’t have budget space to get involved.

    Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 5m Source about Lee trade talks: “It’s not going to be cheap.” Meaning that the Phillies want a significant package of prospects.

    Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 6m Source:Cliff Lee is in play in trade talks today. Rangers obviously the most logical landing spot, with 3B Mike Olt as possible centerpiece

  5. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    If youre Cliff Lee and you chose Philly for less overall money over the Yankees and Rangers and now they are trying to trade you again….for the 2nd time…..then Id be kinda pissed if I were him.

  6. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    If youre Cliff Lee and you chose Philly for less overall money over the Yankees and Rangers and now they are trying to trade you again….for the 2nd time…..then Id be kinda pissed if I were him.
    —————————————————————————————————————–
    This info tells me that Cliff Lee might be the type of pitcher that does not want to be on the BIG STAGE, the national spotlight.
    Good for him.
    Not every SP is comfortable pitching in the biggest city, the biggest markets or on a team with the largest expectations to win a WS.

  7. luis July 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Blake,

    I am grateful that we never got him. I don’t think he is going to be elite for much longer, hell I am not even sure if he still is. Actually, I would like the Rangers to get him. That’s a bad contract to have, probably hindering the Rangers in the future (probably won’t be able to keep Hamilton ).

  8. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    warning track power – you’re right about the lefty swinging dickerson, but you see my greater point – unless jones starts raking against all comers, and not just fastballs (as has been pointed out), they may start looking around for someone else in october.

    phils looking to trade lee? my, remember the days, not so long ago, when they boasted a can’t lose rotation with 4 aces? whatever happened to that? and when the rangers had a surplus of pitching?

  9. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Last night R. Martin looked like a big league hitter.
    Can’t think of an instance where I thought about him in that way
    so far in 2012?

    Opposite field HR and a clutch single up the middle to tie the game.
    Not bad!

  10. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    It doesnt really have anything to do with what Lee wants…..the Phillies are lookjng to deal him to save money…..and Lee sure pitched like he liked the big stage in playoffs past….

  11. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Lee pitched pretty well on the big stage if I remember correctly – and if he didn’t want it he wouldn’t have signed with the Phillies.

    Yankees don’t have the parts to get him though – Texas does and should.

  12. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    “. Actually, I would like the Rangers to get him. ”

    Eh….hed make them better and my guess is the Phillies would have to eat some of the money to facilitate a deal…….if the Rangers got 3.5 years of Lee for only a fraction of what they offered him 2 years ago then I wouldnt like that much…..if I happens I just hopebthey have to give up a lot in prospects

  13. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    With all these trade rumors and baseball journalists tweeting as if they get paid per tweet, I’m so glad I don’t pay hardly any attention to all of the rumors.

  14. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    This, btw, is why Cherrington is nuts if he doesn’t put Lester out there. Jon’s younger, has a better health record and a better contract than Lee – offer him to, say the Pirates, you can easily get back Marte, Bell and Talion.

  15. luis July 30th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Blake,

    If the Phillies send money to pay for Lee, you have a point. If they do that, the price in prospects would be very high I hope. I don’t think Lee is as good as advertised

  16. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Texas would probably even prefer Lee to Hamels because hes not a rental ….especially if Philly takes some of his contract.

    I could see an Olt/Perez package to Philly and the Rangers getting a discount in the contract….maybe Philly picks up 1/3 of whats left or something.

  17. luis July 30th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Chip,

    Don’t give ideas to the Sux ;)

  18. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    luis July 30th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Chip,

    Don’t give ideas to the Sux
    —————-

    This is why I’ve always said “no one is untouchable”

  19. Mike Ri July 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    per rotoworld.com

    According to FOX Sports’ Jon Paul Morosi, the Phillies have interest in the Padres’ Chase Headley.
    The Phils need a solution at the hot corner with Placido Polanco nearing the end of his career and Headley would provide a major upgrade. But word is the Padres might hold off until the winter to deal the 28-year-old, who is under contract through 2014. The Yankees, Indians, A’s and Pirates have also expressed recent interest

  20. Ys Guy July 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    i hate cliff lee. i am very glad the yankees didn’t sign him.

    whoever picks up that contract is going to regret it unless its mostly paid by someone else.

    that being said, he could be the piece that puts the rangers over the top.

    this is it for texas its all-in and i hope the phils milk them of whatever future talent they have.

    it will hasten the day when texas looks like philly does now.

  21. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    If the Sox deal Lester or Beckett, etc….that would tell the rest of the team the front office
    does not believe the team can make the playoffs & the 2012 season is over.
    Might be a tough pill to swallow in Boston.

  22. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Dont think the Pirates would do that deal but yea Id shop Lestah…..problem is that if you trade him then youre kinda commiting to at least a mini rebuild…..

  23. Ys Guy July 30th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    headley to the phils, lee to the rangers and the rangers best prospect to SD. sound like a perfect 3-way.

  24. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    I think Josh Johnson is a bigger risk than Cliff Lee. At the very worst, Lee will eat innings and keep that offense in games. As long as he can stay healthy he will rack up wins and he hasn’t had trouble staying healthy.

  25. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    If the price for Headley is what they say it is then the Phillies dont have the pieces to get him….

  26. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    If the Sox deal Lester or Beckett, etc….that would tell the rest of the team the front office
    does not believe the team can make the playoffs & the 2012 season is over.
    Might be a tough pill to swallow in Boston.
    ——————-

    So?

    Look, Ortiz is probably done there after this season – Ellsbury is walking the year after – a trade of Lester especially could bring them the talent they need to compete again as early as next year and build a new core at the same time.

    Besides – they’ve already annoyed the clubhouse and fan base by dumping Youk…trading Lester wouldn’t do any additional damage.

  27. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Lee maybe isnt what he was 2 years ago…..but hes still very good….hed make the Rangers tough…..they and the Angels are already tough.

  28. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    I think Cleveland will deal Shin Soo Choo for Starling Marte. I would love to see the Pirates add Choo because that might propel them into the playoffs. Unfortunately the Yankees don’t have a Marte to trade. Headley should be the guy regardless because he fits 2014. You don’t want to squander what little prospects you have left on a short term fix like Choo who is free after 2013 and a Boras guy.

  29. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    warning track – i’d be surprised too. that’s a lot of tv dollars for henry and lucchino to write off.

  30. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    If the Phillies can get Headley with their gutted system them the price is at a level the Yanks should play at for him.

  31. blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    “I think Cleveland will deal Shin Soo Choo for Starling Marte. ”

    It makes.some sense for both teams…..but a lot depends on if the Pirates really think their time is now….they might should hold off and go for a deal like that when Cole and Tailon are ready …..

  32. bruceb July 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Chip July 30th, 2012 at 11:56 am
    Since we were talking about Curtis Granderson being dealt this winter:

    San Francisco gets: Curtis Granderson
    New York Yankees get: Brandon Belt, Conor Gillaspie, Madison Baumgardner

    I really wish we could cash in on Granderson right now as he epitomizes everything that is wrong with this team. He’s forgotten how to get on base, only run round them after hitting a home run. Yes, of course, we would miss his power but I’m sick of seeing him strike out in key situations. He had a nightmare weekend and he’s only going to get worse with age.

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    “Yankees don’t have the parts to get him though – Texas does and should.”

    If the Yankees had all of the money in the world and no qualms about spending it, the last person I would want is Lee. The Yankees don’t need sloppy seconds or players who didn’t want to be here in the first place.

  34. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi

    #Phillies could use prospects they get for one of their vets to land Headley. Of course if they get Olt for Lee they won’t need Headley

  35. Ys Guy July 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    If the Phillies can get Headley with their gutted system them the price is at a level the Yanks should play at for him.
    ———————–
    that’s why a 3 teamer makes so much sense. they get headley for lee and the rangers cough up the young talent to make it happen.

  36. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    If you trade Marte for Choo but still arent good enough to win in 2012 and 2013 then its kinda pointless……would you do that just to maybe grab a WC and make the playoffs? They need to be careful and not over reach IMO…..

  37. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Yea Id rather just trade Lee for Olt and fix 3B that way…..

  38. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Blake,

    The Pirates should put themselves on the map and go for it now. They still have a young team where they can call up Cole and Taillon. It would be a healthy winning environment to surround them with.

  39. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Rangers would Now have to surrender actual Prospects from within their organization to get Lee. My guess is they would have prefered just doleing out free agent $$$\2yrs ago.
    When A-Rod came back from injury late late season\knee\thumb, offensively he wasn’t worth a can-a-beans. To assume that A-Rod is gonna return in mid-Sept and just rake outta the gate is folly. Same goes for Pettitte. Yanks can get around Pettite in the Playoffs with a 3 Man Rotation. They can Not get around A-Rod swinging a broken bat.

  40. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Bret,

    Maybe….juat depends on what they want to do

  41. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue July 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    “Yankees don’t have the parts to get him though – Texas does and should.”

    If the Yankees had all of the money in the world and no qualms about spending it, the last person I would want is Lee. The Yankees don’t need sloppy seconds or players who didn’t want to be here in the first place.
    ———————

    Like Hiroki Kuroda who vetoed a trade to NY?

  42. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS

    #SFGiants are in discussions for pence, sources confirm. however, as said earlier, nothing agreed to.

    http://cbsprt.co/MODnep
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    Probably Belt + for Pence. SF hedges against a Melky departure via FA

  43. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Pirates would be better served dealing for guys who can not only help them this year but will be around for a few years – Choo doesn’t make sense in that regard.

    Jon Lester does – and if they’re looking for an OF bat – they probably have enough prospects to make the Rockies think long and hard about dealing CarGo.

  44. Ys Guy July 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    arod wasn’t raking most of the year. i’m not as worried about him as i am about pettitte.

    the yankees need both cc and pettitte to be really good to have a shot.

    the window for andy to make it back is getting smaller.

  45. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    First off, what is this fasination with Belt? 2nd, what do the Phils need a 1B for with Howard there.

  46. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    First off, what is this fasination with Belt? 2nd, what do the Phils need a 1B for with Howard there.
    ———————–

    He could probably play RF

  47. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    “First off, what is this fasination with Belt? 2nd, what do the Phils need a 1B for with Howard there.”

    Hes got a chance to be a good hitter….however Im not sure I see the fit wirh the Phillies either…..

  48. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    You do No trade a Pence for a “probably”, especially at the trade deadline. Also, remember what the Giants gave up for Renting Beltran.

  49. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    How about changing my proposal to Granderson for Gillaspe and Peguero?

  50. Tyler July 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    I would love Hunter Pence on the Yankees. I’d love to see him in RF next year. The guy is the type of hitter this team needs… he’d add a bit of grit and hustle.

  51. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    You do No trade a Pence for a “probably”, especially at the trade deadline. Also, remember what the Giants gave up for Renting Beltran.
    ———————–

    The Phillies traded a bunch of bigger question marks to the Astros for Pence in the first place – any trade that involves a prospect going the other way involves “probably’s”

  52. JobaTipsHisCap July 30th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    to expect CC have a wonderful postseason is a long shot.
    His career postseason ERA is approaching 5.

  53. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    Houston had their annual fire sale going, which accounted for what they got for Pence. Philly is Not in that position. They aint giving Pence away. The price for 2+ months of Beltran was Far higher than this Belt for Pence Myth.

  54. JobaTipsHisCap July 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    It’s too bad for Yankees have a fake ace.

  55. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    It’s too bad for LOHUD have a fake Yankees fan.

  56. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    All these SP’s take their lumps. Even Verlander is getting dinged around.

  57. spidanyc July 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
    All these SP’s take their lumps. Even Verlander is getting dinged around.

    —————————————————————————————————–

    Verlander isn’t the highest paid pitcher in the game.

  58. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    What’s with the Ricky Ricardo Lingo????

  59. Jerkface July 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Donnybrook, beltran was traded for 1 a ball pitcher. How is that any more than what is rumored for pence?

  60. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    $$$ has Nothing to do with it.

  61. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    As I understood the trade, that was the Giant’s Top Minor League SP. Certainly a higher price than Belt.

  62. JobaTipsHisCap July 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    again, I just can’t wait to see how Yankee ace will pitch in postseason.
    I know he will get pass again, no matter what.

  63. disco stu July 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    “It’s too bad for LOHUD have a fake Yankees fan.”

    LOL

    If memory serves me correclty, CC was pretty darn good during the WS run of 2009 … he won the ALCS MVP if I am not mistaken.

    Not bad for a “fake ace” … I guess some people just have selective memory loss.

  64. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    After getting bamboozled in the Ubaldo deal, the Indians are gonna tread Very lightly with dealing Choo.

  65. Against All Odds July 30th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    disco stu July 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    “It’s too bad for LOHUD have a fake Yankees fan.”

    LOL

    If memory serves me correclty, CC was pretty darn good during the WS run of 2009 … he won the ALCS MVP if I am not mistaken.

    Not bad for a “fake ace” … I guess some people just have selective memory loss.

    ————————–

    I said it before and I’ll say it again when CC no longer pitches for the Yankees that’s when he will be missed

  66. Pat M. July 30th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    If CC continues on this path, he’ll be in Cooperstown in about 12-14 years…….Not an Ace, my arse

  67. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    If Belt could play RF then the Yanks should go after him themselves…..Im not sure he can though….hes not all that athletic…

  68. Migs July 30th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    The CBA has changed a lot of things for this trade deadline.

    No longer can a team get draft picks for a rental that signs with another team. Therefore, dealing a high level prospect hurts more because you can’t simply bank on the high draft pick that brings back another high upside player. That is a big deal to teams.

    Teams also realize now that having a cost control of several young players who are around 3 WAR, is usually better than having one expensive 5-6 WAR player (i.e. Prince Fielder).

    The Garret Jones, Seager, and Span types do have their place in MLB.

    So everyone should realize that the packages in these deadline deals are going to be different and look different for at least a while, and maybe for good. Philosophies change, and that dictates the trading market as much as all the other situations.

    Another change is a team like the Astros trading replacement type players for prospects who have fallen off, but were once thought of highly. There is no reason for them to keep a replaceable player like Chris Johnson.

    So it doesn’t matter what the Giants gave up for Beltran. That was a mistake. Just because some other GM overpaid, doesn’t mean another is going to overpay now.

    The only thing the Yankees could add is an ace, but that just isn’t likely. I assume all other moves would be for depth purposes. Possibly a bullpen arm like Betancourt because he has a reasonable salary…or another type of arm such as that.

    The fascination with Belt is because he plays a very good first base, is cheap, and has upside to hit 280 with 25 homers and can run a bit as well. There is still plenty to like, and if the Giants give him away on the cheap, it would be a mistake. I am not in love with Belt, but there is no real reason to give up on a guy like that or give him away.

  69. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    “First off, what is this fasination with Belt? 2nd, what do the Phils need a 1B for with Howard there.”

    Hes got a chance to be a good hitter….however Im not sure I see the fit wirh the Phillies either…..
    —————————————————————————————————–
    If you’re a Lefty hitter that is NOT Barry Bonds, you have no business playing in SF.
    Belt would be better served going elsewhere.

  70. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    AndrewMarchand Well,well, well, if the Yanks are serious abt $189M, I don’t see how they trade for Lee, but u have to investigate it, right?

    depends on how much money the Philies would eat and what they’d want in return.

  71. Cashmoney July 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    CC did well in 09 then no so well in 10 and 11… I have no idea what you gonna out of him this playoff, but I be lying to say i would bet the farm on cc pitching well in 12 playoff, i just dont hae that expectation/

  72. Cashmoney July 30th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    CC did well in 09 then no so well in 10 and 11… I have no idea what you gonna out of him this playoff, but I be lying to say i would bet the farm on cc pitching well in 12 playoff, i just dont hae that expectation.

  73. bruceb July 30th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    CC was great in his first start back from injury against the Jays but not so good against the As and awful against the Red Sox. Can’t put my finger on why. He has already helped us win one World Series but he has a long way to go if he wants to become a Yankee legend.

  74. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    CC is still a #1 ….he’s a really good pitcher who is money in the bank consistency wise and he’s a great leader for a rotation….he’s the best money Cashman has ever spent.

    That said….he may not be that guy anymore that can go out and beat a team 2-1 in a playoff game and even if he can still be that I’m not sure how much longer he can….he’s getting older and that arm has a TON of innings on it. He’s a beast, a workhorse….a great leader and great member of the staff…..but ideally moving forward the Yanks probably do need another front line guy to go with him just so he doesn’t have to carry the load…..hopefully that’ll come from within what they already have.

  75. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    migs – nice analytical post.

    pat m. – hi.

  76. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    “So it doesn’t matter what the Giants gave up for Beltran. That was a mistake. Just because some other GM overpaid, doesn’t mean another is going to overpay now.”

    I don’t know that I’d call it a mistake…..it was a calculated risk they took to try and re-peat as WS champs for their fans knowing that pitching was the strength of their organization. Sure they have nothing to show for it now…..but I can’t say that I blame them for going for it……

  77. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I just do Not see the Yanks going after an SP. Cashman should be looking for an OF’er controlled thru at Least 2013, a 3B, and a loaf of bread. The shopping list ends there.

  78. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    CC is still a #1 ….he’s a really good pitcher who is money in the bank consistency wise and he’s a great leader for a rotation….he’s the best money Cashman has ever spent.

    That said….he may not be that guy anymore that can go out and beat a team 2-1 in a playoff game and even if he can still be that I’m not sure how much longer he can….he’s getting older and that arm has a TON of innings on it. He’s a beast, a workhorse….a great leader and great member of the staff…..but ideally moving forward the Yanks probably do need another front line guy to go with him just so he doesn’t have to carry the load…..hopefully that’ll come from within what they already have.
    —————————————————————————————————————–
    What I want to see from C.C.
    is 2 consecutive complete game. If he truly is the Ace of this staff, I would love to see him perform like an Ace should.
    9 innings, getting the win over 2 consecutive games.
    Is that a lot to ask? To date he averages 7 IP per start
    In late April/early May he had a stretch of 4 straight games going 8 innings
    In late May/early June he had a stretch of 5 straight games going 7 innings, followed by his only 9 inning CG in his next start
    1 CG in 18 starts does concern me a bit

  79. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    so what have we established today:

    CC is not an ace
    Granderson is going to fall off a cliff in the next couple of years
    the Yankees are doomed DOOOOOOOOMED

  80. Pat M. July 30th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Doc Joe……..Good to see you of course……Maybe we’ll catch up at tonight’s game if this place isn’t over whelming………As for Beckett, I mentioned the other day that until the BoSox agree to eat some coins it’s going to be tough for them to get back what they want……..Later guys

  81. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    “What I want to see from C.C.
    is 2 consecutive complete game.”

    nobody throws consecutive complete games anymore…..not routinely anyway.

  82. Cashmoney July 30th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Playoff is all about matchup as well… here is question for fellow yankee fans- do you think the NY Yankees match up well with possible opponents in As, Angels, Tigers, and Rangers?

  83. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    The Yankees are not going to add a big time player – any position – in the next two days. Ichiro filled the need the Yankees had for improving team speed and defense with Gardner out for the year.

    The only thing they might do is tweak the bench to improve from Ramiro Pena in that last spot.

    They’re getting Alex back at some point, Andy as well and Joba and Aardsma too – that’s plenty of improvements.

  84. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Pat M,

    what you think of the Hanley move? I think it was great for the Dodgers and think it may pay huge dividends for them.

  85. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    pat m . – i’ve got to run soon, but, if you’re still there –

    what would you have thought of…..last night, jeter on 1st, ichiro 3rd, one out, and granderson and tex due up. joe played it straight, and neither guy got it done. i was a thinking a bit crazy last night, what with their difficulty in getting the run in – either 1) squeeze with grandy, or 2) double steal with jetes and ichiro. if they let jeter run, then they probably walk grandy and go for the dp with tex. which might work for them, but it at least puts more pressure on the pitcher and potentially brings another batter to the plate.

    it would have been gutsy/crazy……

  86. blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    “They’re getting Alex back at some point, Andy as well and Joba and Aardsma too – that’s plenty of improvements.”

    I think they should remember Alex last October when he came back from injury without having enough time to get his timing down in September…..he couldn’t do anything in the playoffs…..

  87. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Warning Track Power:

    Manager is the one who determines how deep into the game the pitcher goes and Girardi is big on matching up down the stretch.

    Not saying that’s the only reason CC doesn’t throw complete games, but it is part of the reason you won’t see him throwing CGs back to back.

  88. 86w183 July 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    I’m not counting on aardsma at all. Not convinced he’ll be better than Eppley anyway.

    Joba should be activated this evening… seeya Mr. Qualls

  89. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    “They’re getting Alex back at some point, Andy as well and Joba and Aardsma too – that’s plenty of improvements.”

    I think they should remember Alex last October when he came back from injury without having enough time to get his timing down in September…..he couldn’t do anything in the playoffs…..
    ——————

    He’s still going to play – which means who ever you’re picking up will at best DH at worst sit on the bench.

  90. Cashmoney July 30th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    arod might very well be none factor along with petitte … dep on how fast they can recover and how fast they can get into their respective game form. big ifs, more so for rod.

  91. Jerkface July 30th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Wheeler may be a top pitching prospect but he was still in a ball. Belt is a guy that is in the majors/aaa and has crushed the minors and has a lot of talent. Wouldn’t be the only guy going as well. Its belt+.

  92. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    As I said an hour ago, the 3 Man rotation in the Playoffs would get the Yanks around a sub-par Pettitte. The Yanks Do need insurance for A-Rod. No Question. Yanks were KO’d in the 1st rd last season due to the offense. Just because the Yanks got Ichiro does Not mean they will walk away from a deal that makes them better. Jones would be the odd-man-out. Ichiro can be useful in numerous ways to the Yankees. Jones issa 1 Trick Pony\Donkey.

  93. Migs July 30th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Joe from LI

    -Thanks…glad you liked it.

    ___________________

    Blake,

    It was a mistake because they gave up their top pitching prospect and didn’t analyze their team well. The Angels as a team, with Greinke, have a high chance at winning the WS. They are not even first in the division, but you can see how great that team can be. Worth the risk when you look at where the team is right now. Especially when they are now competing with the Dodgers. And even so, the Angels did NOT give up their best prospect. The Rangers did not offer Olt…that should tell you something right there.

    The Giants situation was different last season. Their WS was a nice run, much like the Cards, but you have to make the proper evaluation of your team. Beltran was not putting them over the top. It is just an opinion, but I’m not trading a legit top of the rotation prospect who is 1 year away from the Majors for an aging Beltran rental. It just doesn’t make sense to me. If I was one piece away, perhaps, but I just felt like they overpaid, and good for the Mets. They now have 2 promising pitchers coming up at around the same time. In 3-5 seasons, if they do it right, they should be a playoff team contending for a WS.

    To sum it up, if I was the GM of the Giants, I would have held back giving up my top pitching prospect for a rental. Certain situations, yes, this situation, no. I didn’t like it at the time, and I don’t like it now.

  94. Cashmoney July 30th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    quick take on the Os series, I can see Os winning 2/3 if Gracia blows up tonight. later all.

  95. UnKnown July 30th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07.....ref=sports

    ——

    Just an awesome look at the catcher position. Through the head of Martin. You will love it.

  96. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Cashmoney July 30th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    quick take on the Os series, I can see Os winning 2/3 if Gracia blows up tonight. later all.
    ———————

    You’ve been a ray of sunshine today.

  97. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    As I said an hour ago, the 3 Man rotation in the Playoffs would get the Yanks around a sub-par Pettitte. The Yanks Do need insurance for A-Rod. No Question. Yanks were KO’d in the 1st rd last season due to the offense. Just because the Yanks got Ichiro does Not mean they will walk away from a deal that makes them better. Jones would be the odd-man-out. Ichiro can be useful in numerous ways to the Yankees. Jones issa 1 Trick Pony\Donkey.
    —————

    It’s widely believed that the two hardest things to find in baseball are good LH pitching and RH power.

    Jones, in the role he was signed for, is an excellent weapon for the Yankees in that he can make a manager second guess bringing in a LH relief pitcher in a key spot. Playing every day he does get exposed as being less than the player he was.

  98. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    “It was a mistake because they gave up their top pitching prospect and didn’t analyze their team well.”

    It sucks now…..but at the time they had Cain, Bumgardner, and a good Lincecum…..they didnt know Timmy was gonna turn into what he has…..they took a chance ro try and repeat and dealt from an area of strength and a guy in A ball…….it looks bad now of course been again I wouldnt call it a mistake so much as a riak to try and win it all again…..

  99. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    ‘He’s still going to play – which means who ever you’re picking up will at best DH at worst sit on the bench.”

    If you get Headley then you can DH Alex or play Headley in the OF vs LHP

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue July 30th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    “Like Hiroki Kuroda who vetoed a trade to NY?”

    Let me say this. I didn’t want Cliff Lee once there was talk of 6 years or whatever it was. I want him even less now. And I don’t see Kuorda vetoeing a trade to any East coast team (not only NY) the same as Lee going to play for another team at a lesser offer than the Yankees made, meanwhile stringing the Yankees out – which is exactly what he did. He has the right to choose where he wants to go. He did. Philadelphia. Oh well that things didn’t work for him and now he’s on the trade block. Oh well.

  101. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    ‘He’s still going to play – which means who ever you’re picking up will at best DH at worst sit on the bench.”

    If you get Headley then you can DH Alex or play Headley in the OF vs LHP
    ——————————–

    I don’t disagree – I just don’t see it happening.

    As for the Wheeler/Beltran deal – as Wheeler has not done anything in the majors that trade still looks fine from San Fran’s point of view – there’s every chance that Wheeler never becomes an established major leaguer.

  102. Mike Ri July 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Cliff Lee is still a pretty darn good pitcher ! …… If he’s made available . . >Its Cashmans job to at least inquire …. Im not saying I want him .. . .BUT if the price is right…??????

  103. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    FWIW – I heard that the Yankees played David Adams at 3b this weekend in Trenton.

  104. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    The problem with Lee is that it would take prospects and money….and that’s not the best match for where the Yankees are.

  105. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Like I said, if the Yanks get a legit 3B, next season Cashman tells A-Rod he’s a DH for 2013. The Yanks can Not afford to have A-Rod’s production and $30 Mill salary, (or whatever it is), on the DL. I think it’s 4 or 5 years running that A-Rod has hit the DL.

  106. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Might be time to promote Murton, Mesa and Zoilo Almonte to AAA

  107. 86w183 July 30th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Yanks offered more GTD $$$ to Lee, but the Phillies had the top AAV.

    I wouldn’t deal for him, but it’s fun to kick around all the possibilities.

    Wish there was a good LH hitting catcher available… Jaso is probably the best one.

  108. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
    TOTAL SPECULATION: You wonder if the Cardinals, with expiring contracts for Berkman/Westbrook/Lohse, would have any interest in Cliff Lee?

    The Cardinals are in a similar spot to the Giants from last year….they are trying to repeat and they are a piece or two short….they need pitching and could potentially be willing to push to get a big league starter. If you could get them to over pay for somebody……they have some attractive pieces…..Shelby Miller, Oscar Taveras…..etc….

  109. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Brett Marshall as well.

  110. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    If the Phillies would eat half of Lee’s remaining contract and accept something that’s not one of the Yankees top 5 prospects then I’d consider it……Lee and 40 million dollars for David Phelps or something…..short of that I don’t think the Yanks can do it……I don’t really like Lee anyway.

  111. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Lee is stumbling in the NL. AL=Trouble. It also was rumored that Lee hated Chucking in the Texas heat.

  112. Migs July 30th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Blake,

    Fair enough. I just thought it was a bad deal at the time for the Giants. I wasn’t really thinking about how bad Lince has been for them, and that does really hurt them now, but that is a separate issue. I just think if you are dealing a top prospect like that, you better get something better or more, or be sure you have a real chance to win the WS…Obviously that is what they thought, I just disagreed with the whole trade and the thinking behind it.

    I also didn’t like the Claussen for Boone deal, but that didn’t hurt the Yanks. And that series walk-off HR basically made up for the short-sighted deal. So the Giants may end up being fine, like the Yankees ended up being fine, but I would have been against either trade if I was a part of the front office.

  113. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
    TOTAL SPECULATION: You wonder if the Cardinals, with expiring contracts for Berkman/Westbrook/Lohse, would have any interest in Cliff Lee?

    The Cardinals are in a similar spot to the Giants from last year….they are trying to repeat and they are a piece or two short….they need pitching and could potentially be willing to push to get a big league starter. If you could get them to over pay for somebody……they have some attractive pieces…..Shelby Miller, Oscar Taveras…..etc….
    ———————

    It would be a lunatic move for St. Louis.

    For one thing, they don’t need pitching. For another – they still need to do a long term deal with Wainwright and with their budget that’s going to be hard enough without factoring Cliff Lee into the mix.

  114. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    “For one thing, they don’t need pitching. ”

    yea they do,…..Carp is done for the year.

  115. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Lee is stumbling in the NL. AL=Trouble. It also was rumored that Lee hated Chucking in the Texas heat.
    ————–

    Lee has a sub 4 ERA and 1.20 WHIP – not sure on what planet that’s called stumbling

  116. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    ” I just think if you are dealing a top prospect like that, you better get something better or more, or be sure you have a real chance to win the WS…”

    they probably thought they did if they could get into the playoffs with that rotation….Beltran was a 900 OPS outfielder last year and they gambled that he could help get them a playoff spot. That’s the risk you take with doing deals like that…..and it busted…..but if I were a Giants fan I would be fine with them trying to repeat

  117. Benny Blanco July 30th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Do we really want to have lee go to the rangers only to get beat by him in the PS. He owns the yankees.

  118. Tar July 30th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Joba, Andy, Alex, plus we’ve just added Ichiro. That is enough to win it all.

    If they play to their demonstrated capabilities, and get hot at the right time they have as good a chance as anybody.

    Of course if something turns up that Cash believes would put them over the top, then you have to pursue it. But I will not be disappointed if this is basically the team going forward.

  119. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    “For one thing, they don’t need pitching. ”

    yea they do,…..Carp is done for the year
    ——————-

    Garcia’s coming back – Lohse, Lynn, Wainwright and Westbrook are all pitching well.

  120. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    - CHIP -
    Maybe you want a NL Chucker who is Now giving up more hits than IP? Not me.

  121. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    “Garcia’s coming back – Lohse, Lynn, Wainwright and Westbrook are all pitching well.”

    Id want more than that….

  122. ZMAN July 30th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Yanks don’t need a big bat, they need a steady guy to play 3rd, a Wiggington, Polonco type

    Look at the names in the lineup – Ichiro, Jeter, Cano, ARod, Tex, Swish, Granderson, Ibanez, Martin, etc. they have more than enough offense, they just need a solid glove to add to the INF

  123. 86w183 July 30th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Cliff Lee is 6-4, 4.42 in 12 career regular season starts vs the Yanks.

    He is 3-0 in post-season with two dominant starts, but overall he doesn’t “own” them.

  124. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Wiggington is a terrible 3B and Polonco is hurt

  125. yanks 27 July 30th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal
    To get Justin Morneau, a team would need to part with a major-league ready SP and work out remaining $19M in salary with Twins through ’13.

    Phelps for Morneau?

  126. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Warning Track Power:

    Manager is the one who determines how deep into the game the pitcher goes and Girardi is big on matching up down the stretch.

    Not saying that’s the only reason CC doesn’t throw complete games, but it is part of the reason you won’t see him throwing CGs back to back.
    ————————————————————————————————–
    Verlander already has 5 CG’s this season. Not all are 9 IP, but 5 is a very good number
    25% of his starts he will finish the game.
    I would love to see C.C. post similar numbers for the rest of this season

  127. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    - CHIP -
    Maybe you want a NL Chucker who is Now giving up more hits than IP? Not me.
    —————

    He’s given 119 hits in 118.1 IP.

  128. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    “Phelps for Morneau?”

    I wouldn’t do that I don’t think….he’d have to DH and just has too many issues health wise. He’s starting to hit more but is pretty much a platoon guy right now….hitting .167 vs LHP this year. Plus he’s expensive……if I’m dealing Phelps I’d want more back.

  129. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Wigginton plays 3B like Kate Hepburn speaks. Shaky

  130. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    yanks 27 July 30th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal
    To get Justin Morneau, a team would need to part with a major-league ready SP and work out remaining $19M in salary with Twins through ’13.

    Phelps for Morneau?
    ———————-

    Why do you want Morneau?

  131. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    ” would love to see C.C. post similar numbers for the rest of this season”

    I’m sure everybody wants every pitcher to be Justin Verlander…..

  132. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Chip July 30th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Warning Track Power:

    Manager is the one who determines how deep into the game the pitcher goes and Girardi is big on matching up down the stretch.

    Not saying that’s the only reason CC doesn’t throw complete games, but it is part of the reason you won’t see him throwing CGs back to back.
    ————————————————————————————————–
    Verlander already has 5 CG’s this season. Not all are 9 IP, but 5 is a very good number
    25% of his starts he will finish the game.
    I would love to see C.C. post similar numbers for the rest of this season
    ——————————

    Verlander’s manager is an old school guy – Sabathia’s manager is not. Again, that’s not the only reason but it is a factor.

  133. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Wiggington really isn’t any better than what they have…..if they can’t get Headley they should just stand pat at 3B.

  134. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Jeff Baker would be a great fit. He plays 1b, 2b, 3b, RF, and LF – has some power from the right side, doesn’t have to play every day and wouldn’t take much to get.

  135. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Wiggington really isn’t any better than what they have…..if they can’t get Headley they should just stand pat at 3B.
    ——————

    No they shouldn’t – look – by playing the platoon of Nix and Chavez they weaken their bench by having Ramiro Pena in the mix. On the other hand, if you go get a guy like Baker – then Nix replaces Pena as the utility infielder which is an upgrade.

  136. Ys Guy July 30th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    the yankees can’t do anything about lee. he doesnt want to be a yankee and the yankees have no interest in that contract.
    just hope the rangers pay through the nose and the contract comes back to bite them.

  137. Tar July 30th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    CC, Andy, Kuroda, Nova/Hughes is a damn good rotation. Plus you are adding Phil or Nova and Joba to the allready stocked pen.

    They don’t need a third baseman, I like the role Nix has played, and at this point it’s getting to late to mess with the catchers, so what does that leave? Maybe upgrade Jones and the last guy on the bench. just don’t see much wiggle room for Cash.

    Tbeating the Rangers especially with Lee as one of them, is high on my wish list for this year.

  138. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Chip
    I appreciate your passion, but I think the Yankees will be just fine with
    Nix/Chavez/Pena or Nunez at 3rd base until ARod returns.
    Besides Headley, there is no other 3B that would be worth trading for.
    Guys like Wiggington and Mark Reynolds are certainly not upgrades over what the team has right now and both have them have severe holes either with the bat or glove.

    IMO, Nix has played well beyond his baseball card. I like how he can steal a base and hit for power to RF.
    We all know what Chavez is capable of and that he can’t be counted on everyday. No problem!

  139. yanks 27 July 30th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    JonHeymanCBS
    #yankees have players higher on list for part-time fill-in 3b than ty wigginton. they are looking for defense.

  140. Ys Guy July 30th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    the angels are loaded for the PS but they are likely to have to play that 1 game play-in where anything can happen. and they will have to burn weaver in that game.

    and if they don’t start to put some distance between themselves and the pack right behind them, they may have to burn grienke or lewis the w/e just before the playoffs.

  141. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    I agree with Baker over Pena, but then it comes down to the price for Baker.

  142. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    then Nix replaces Pena as the utility infielder which is an upgrade.

    chip – this is an accurate statement; but, how often will that come into play over the next month? will that be worth the cost of making the move, and is that worth it? i think that’s the calculation.

  143. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Everybody is applauding the A’s, but All it takes is one injury to a regular, and it All comes crashing down. They have No depth, as we saw when Cespedes went on the DL.

  144. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Chip
    I appreciate your passion, but I think the Yankees will be just fine with
    Nix/Chavez/Pena or Nunez at 3rd base until ARod returns.
    Besides Headley, there is no other 3B that would be worth trading for.
    Guys like Wiggington and Mark Reynolds are certainly not upgrades over what the team has right now and both have them have severe holes either with the bat or glove.

    IMO, Nix has played well beyond his baseball card. I like how he can steal a base and hit for power to RF.
    We all know what Chavez is capable of and that he can’t be counted on everyday. No problem!
    ———————-

    I don’t mind standing pat either – but I think that the thing about Nix or even Chavez at this point, is that if you play them every day then you run the risk of overexposing them. On the other hand regular play might get them into a groove. But it’s the same thing as with Wise IMO – you can get some really good production from them in spurts – but if you play them like regulars they won’t live up to it.

  145. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    i saw a rumor last week that the yanks were playing with the idea of obtaining headley, then in 2013 using headley to play of in place of swisher. if that’s the thought process, then the cost of acquiring headley might be worth it. assuming, of course, that the scouting contingent feels that headley would hit well enough, and can play the of to replace swish in the lineup.

  146. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    “On the other hand, if you go get a guy like Baker – then Nix replaces Pena as the utility infielder which is an upgrade.”

    just bring Nunez up…..you don’t have to trade for him

  147. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    “i saw a rumor last week that the yanks were playing with the idea of obtaining headley, then in 2013 using headley to play of in place of swisher. ”

    or they could flip him this winter for Justin Upton :) The Dbacks like Headley……

  148. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    then Nix replaces Pena as the utility infielder which is an upgrade.

    chip – this is an accurate statement; but, how often will that come into play over the next month? will that be worth the cost of making the move, and is that worth it? i think that’s the calculation.
    —————————-

    I’m not trading Manny Banuelos for Jeff Baker – I’m talking about dealing a guy like Corban Joseph who has no future with the Yankees. Joseph doesn’t have the kind of bat to play anywhere other than 2b and he’s not as good as David Adams and certainly not as good as Robbie Cano.

  149. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    I don’t mind standing pat either – but I think that the thing about Nix or even Chavez at this point, is that if you play them every day then you run the risk of overexposing them. On the other hand regular play might get them into a groove. But it’s the same thing as with Wise IMO – you can get some really good production from them in spurts – but if you play them like regulars they won’t live up to it.
    —————————————————————————————–
    My guess is Nix will play about 4 games to Chavez playing 3 games over the course of a week.
    Both of them get enough regular work to help the team and just enough work to keep them
    from getting exhausted by not playing everyday.
    If ARod were out for the rest of the season, then by all means I would be strongly encouraging Cashman to find an everyday player at 3B.
    Yankees don’t need that.
    Acquiring someone like Headley might require the Yankees to give up “a lot” in return.
    Which risk is greater?
    Standing pat or making the trade? Tough choice. So glad I am not the GM

  150. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Latest On Ryan Dempster
    By Tim Dierkes [July 30 at 1:41pm CST]
    1:41pm: Talks between the Dodgers and Cubs for Dempster are gaining momentum, reports Scott Miller of CBS Sports.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    just do it already……

  151. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    “On the other hand, if you go get a guy like Baker – then Nix replaces Pena as the utility infielder which is an upgrade.”

    just bring Nunez up…..you don’t have to trade for him
    ———————-

    A) Nunez isn’t healthy
    B) The Yankees want Nunez to focus on SS only and see if he can possibly develop passable defensive skills there – they aren’t interested in using him as a utility player.

  152. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    “Joseph doesn’t have the kind of bat to play anywhere other than 2b and he’s not as good as David Adams and certainly not as good as Robbie Cano.”

    Joseph is OPSing .871 …he may not have a future with the Yankees but I wouldn’t trade him for a back up back up infielder like Jeff Baker…….heck I’d rather bring up Joseph himself and just let him play

  153. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Warning Track Power:

    Again – if the price isn’t right the price isn’t right – but I don’t think you need starter or bust – there are ways to improve this team without going all in for a guy like Headley.

  154. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    “A) Nunez isn’t healthy”

    he’s playing

  155. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    ” there are ways to improve this team without going all in for a guy like Headley.”

    marginally….and that’s usually not even worth doing.

  156. blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    I’d like to know what the Padres are asking for Headley….

  157. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    You do Not hold a $200 Mill payroll together with spit and chewing gum\Nix and Chavez at 3B. Far too big a gamble down-the-stretch.

  158. austinmac July 30th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Donny,

    I always appreciate a Katherine Hepburn reference. It may be the first on this blog. Congrats.:)

    Lee is another older player. They have enough of them. Plus, he did not just reject going to the team but also said he thought the Phils were more likely to win. Sorry Lee. You were wrong. I hope you get traded to the Astros.

  159. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    “Joseph doesn’t have the kind of bat to play anywhere other than 2b and he’s not as good as David Adams and certainly not as good as Robbie Cano.”

    Joseph is OPSing .871 …he may not have a future with the Yankees but I wouldn’t trade him for a back up back up infielder like Jeff Baker…….heck I’d rather bring up Joseph himself and just let him play
    ————————

    He’s had a very strong year – but I traded Tweets with the guy who covers the SWB Yankees and asked him about Joseph about a week ago and his response was that he doesn’t have the ability to play any other spots on the field or the bat to make up for his fielding there – having never seen him play I’m taking this guy’s word for it.

    Cash in on a guy like that while you can – before he becomes Andy Phillips.

  160. blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    CoJo can hit though…..I’d save him for some team that thinks he might can help him at 2B though rather than deal him for a back up infielder…..he could also be a piece in a bigger deal.

  161. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    “A) Nunez isn’t healthy”

    he’s playing
    ————–

    In the Gulf Coast League.

  162. austinmac July 30th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Blake,

    I would like to know if the Yankees have had any real discussion about Headley. It seems clear they should see if they can help now and find a right fielder for the future. At least it’s clear to us. As o have said before, I think it is Hal and the checkbook.

  163. blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    “In the Gulf Coast League.”

    played in AAA yesterday

  164. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Was just reminded the Yankees have lost 7 of 10.
    Time to start a new winning streak and who better against than
    the O’s & Showalter.

  165. austinmac July 30th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Nunez is in AAA but not hitting at any of his stops.

  166. blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    mac,

    I would as well….I’d like to know what it would take….really haven’t heard any leaks about what the Padres are asking for ….only that the price is “high”.

  167. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    CoJo can hit though…..I’d save him for some team that thinks he might can help him at 2B though rather than deal him for a back up infielder…..he could also be a piece in a bigger deal.
    —————–

    I think you’re greatly over valuing him – but again I haven’t seen him play.

    So okay, for the sake of argument, substitute Jose Mojica for Corban Joseph…the point is, deal some fringe guy for Baker – not a real prospect.

  168. blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    from the reports it seems Nunez is pretty much back to normal….he kicked one at SS last night :(

  169. blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    “I think you’re greatly over valuing him – but again I haven’t seen him play.”

    I think you”re over valuing Jeff baker ;)

  170. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    “I think you’re greatly over valuing him – but again I haven’t seen him play.”

    I think you”re over valuing Jeff baker
    ——————–

    Here you go – I thought of the perfect guy to deal for Baker – Ramiro Pena. Straight up.

  171. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    I like the Baker idea, but I aint payin’ the Sticker Price.

  172. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Brandon Laird’s been hitting better as of late – not well enough but better.

  173. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    I like the Baker idea, but I aint payin’ the Sticker Price.
    ——————–

    What’s the sticker price?

  174. JobaTipsHisCap July 30th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    no need to argue about cc is ace or not. First of all, being no.1 starter is not the same as being ace of the staff.

    let cc’s 2012 postseason numbers do the talking.

  175. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Baker issa more versatile RH’ed version of Hinske. Kinda in the Hairston mold.

  176. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Baker issa more versatile RH’ed version of Hinske. Kinda in the Hairston mold.
    ————————

    What’s wrong with that?

  177. mick July 30th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    headly is a butcher in the OF, why would he replace swisher?

  178. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Are you asking for a defintion of “sticker price”, or do you wanna know the player(s) needed to get him. I have No idea what player(s) would be required.

  179. Chip July 30th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Are you asking for a defintion of “sticker price”, or do you wanna know the player(s) needed to get him. I have No idea what player(s) would be required.
    —————

    I know what sticker price means – I was asking what the sticker price for Baker would be – if they want Banuelos for him – no thanks. If they want Ramiro Pena or Francisco Cervelli no problem.

  180. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Nothing wrong with that. I like Baker, Hinske, and Hairston.

  181. DONNYBROOK July 30th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Just guessin’, but I do Not believe Cervelli or Pena would suffice for Baker.

  182. Ys Guy July 30th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    cc pitched GREAT in the 2009 PS, won his alds start, won both alcs starts and had a loss and an nd in the series (3.29 era, 1.20 whip)

    his overall PS #’s arent good but he’s shown he can lead a staff on a WS winner.

  183. DaveD July 30th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Maybe someone like Nunez and Phelps for Baker

  184. mick July 30th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    why would you trade phelps?

  185. Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    JobaTipsHisCap July 30th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    no need to argue about cc is ace or not. First of all, being no.1 starter is not the same as being ace of the staff.

    let cc’s 2012 postseason numbers do the talking.
    ————————————————————————————————————
    I can accept that

  186. blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    “Here you go – I thought of the perfect guy to deal for Baker – Ramiro Pena. Straight up.”

    deal

  187. blake July 30th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    “why would you trade phelps?”

    if it made the team better

  188. bruceb July 30th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Warning Track Power July 30th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    Was just reminded the Yankees have lost 7 of 10.
    Time to start a new winning streak and who better against than
    the O’s & Showalter.

    If we lose 2-1 or 3-0, no doubt we’ll be hearing on Wednesday night how much more important this series was for the Orioles than it was for the Yankees. When you look at our schedule for August (after Seattle), the next six games are pretty important for us too just to steady the ship. Four games in Detroit and four games home with the Rangers (who will no doubt be out of their slump by then) don’t look too easy to me.

  189. mick July 30th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    if it made the team better
    ===================
    that is open to interpretation

  190. mick July 30th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    if the yanks go 10 games over for the last 60 games they have 95 wins.
    this means most of the pretenders have to play about 20 games over the next 2 months to catch us.
    not happnin’

  191. mick July 30th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    let me amend that:
    if we go 35-25 for 95 wins
    the pretenders would need to go more like 45-15, 30 games over to catch us..
    this is off the top of my head and i’m sure someone will try to disprove it.

  192. Ys Guy July 30th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    for me, the surprise isnt that the yankees are playing well, its that nobody else in the al east is playing well.

    al east vs. .500 since may 19th:
    baltimore -10 games
    tampa -5 games
    toronto -4 games
    boston +1 game
    yankees +17 games

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