Off day notes and links: Pena designated for assignment
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 02, 2012 
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Hope everyone enjoyed the off day. The Yankees are back in the Bronx tomorrow, and before the stadium gates open, I’ll be hosting a chat at noon. Stop by, and I’m sure we’ll talk all about the Yankees deadline activity, the return of Joba Chamberlain and what comes next in these final two weeks.
For now, a few end-of-the-day notes and links.
• Turns out the Yankees didn’t option Ramiro Pena yesterday. They designated him for assignment. Brian Cashman confirmed the move this afternoon. If no one claims him, Pena will clear waivers tomorrow and be removed from the 40-man roster.
• If you hadn’t already heard, the Yankees released Dewayne Wise after he was designated for assignment last week.
• One last DFA note: The Red designated Andrew Brackman for assignment this week after they traded for Jonathan Broxton. The former Yankees first-round pick had a 6.80 ERA between Triple-A and High-A this season. Most of that time was spent in A-ball with a 5.12 ERA. His ERA with Triple-A Louisville was a whopping 9.87 with 16 walks and 13 strikeouts. He just hasn’t been able to locate since that strong second half in 2010.
• Odd story of the day: Someone hacked the Yankees Facebook page. Apparently several other big league clubs had their Facebook pages hacked as well.
• Melky Mesa officially joined the Triple-A roster today. In a crowded outfield, Mesa jumped into the lineup as the starting center fielder. Chris Dickerson moved to DH, Ronnier Mustelier handled left field and Darnell McDonald played right. Kosuke Fukudome started at first base. As far as I can tell, this was his first infield start. At least in the United States.
• About a week ago, the blog Yankees Fans Unite posted an interview with first-round pick Ty Hensley. In the interview, Hensley explains his side of the “shoulder abnormality” that a pre-signing MRI detected. “… Until something hurts or there are symptoms, or until there is instability, there is no reason to be concerned,” Hensley said. “I’m healthy, I’m gonna be healthy and will keep working to stay healthy.”
Associated Press photo
Hope that Pena catches on somewhere. He’s be a good utility man.
I’ll be very upset if he doesn’t. You talk about the definition of a faithful Yankee. I think he deserved better. But anyway.
Noooooooooooo, not the Jalapena.
Considering how many times JAP has been typed here, it’s no wonder Luis didn’t think anything of it…
37 players right now in the 40-man, according to yankees.com. Don’t understand
How early has to be a player in the 40-man roster to be available for the playoffs?
Buster_ESPN=
Dempster has allowed as many earned runs (7) tonight as in his last 7 starts in the NL. For a future FA, Atlanta was probably better option.
in the 25-man, I meant
trisha – true pinstriped blue August 2nd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I’ll be very upset if he doesn’t. You talk about the definition of a faithful Yankee. I think he deserved better. But anyway.
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I agree 100%. Pena deserved a better fate. There is no awards for loyalty in baseball. Its production driven. Black & White….
you’re in Texas…..but you aint playin the Astros Demp…..
Pete Abraham ?@PeteAbe
#redsox very consistent. Today is the 16th time they have been .500.
“Hensley explains his side of the “shoulder abnormality” that a pre-signing MRI detected. ”
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The year of the shoulder
“I agree 100%. Pena deserved a better fate. There is no awards for loyalty in baseball. Its production driven. Black & White….”
But people are saying there are only 37 men on the 40 man roster. Unless they thought maybe someone could use him and that was kinder to him. I don’t know. Hopefully he gets pulled back if nobody picks him up. That could happen, right?
Back-to-back-to-back poor starts by Rangers’ starters – Holland, Darvish, and now Dempster. Could the old time Rangers’ pitching being coming back (i.e. pre-2010) – finally. There is no Cliff Lee or even C.J. Wilson to steer the ship right during the regular season – let alone even a Colby Lewis. Should be interesting when the Rangers play the Yanks.
Jmv,
You are a doctor right? Is it common to have shoulder anomalies?
Heathcott with three SBs tonight – - – -
I’m not sure if Pena deserves a better fate…maybe if he could actually hit. I’m sure he’ll land somewhere. He’s got the glove to be on someone’s roster.
It is strange that we’re so light on the 40 man.
Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
Ryan Dempster: 4IP, 7H, 7R, 7ER, 2BB, 4K, 2HR. Only second time all year he’s given up over 4 ER. Welcome to the AL.
Feel bad for Pena but its a business. I just don’t get it. I guess more moves are ahead
Rangers need to put a claim in on Lee.
Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
Ryan Dempster: 3.2 IP, 6H, 5R, 5ER, 1BB, 4K, 2HR . If he was a Yankee right now we’d see #FireCashman trending.
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And most would – with their trademark %^*& Cashman and the FO
“Rangers need to put a claim in on Lee.”
I bet they do unless the Dodgers claim him first
OT – Nothing is sacred.
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropoli.....ans-skirt/
scuzzles August 2nd, 2012 at 8:46 pm e
There is a bunch of errors in this post.
Mariano replacement was David Robertson.
Currently Soriano
Gardner replacement was nobody. And certainly not Cody Epley.
I think someone was at happy hour when this was posted.
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Just reading through the comments of some previous posts.
The replacements post was all about the players who took the roster spot — and who eventually tookover the role — of those players who are now gone. Five roster spots have changed since Opening Day. When Mo was hurt, Eppley took the spot. When Gardner was hurt, Eppley took the spot. Obviously those roster spots have evolved and roles have changed. I thought it was self explanatory, but it was clearly a little confusing. Sorry about that.
Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
-100% RT @asalian What Do You think the chances are of us Claiming Cliff Lee off Waivers?
Shoulder abnormalities are not normal.
Interesting stuff from Mark Newman re: Campos and Banuelos – - as well as Mason Williams rehab – - – - -
Also, for whatever it’s worth, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Pena clear waivers.
Maybe Hensley has a super labrum
I posed the question about Pena’s place on the roster on this blog this very morning. Didn’t expect to get my answer quite so quickly. I know he’s popular for his versatility but the guy can’t hit a lick. Yankees can’t afford to carry a passenger in their lineup right now.
The one thing about Ramiro Pena that perplexes me is how did he make the All-Star Futures Game that one year. I’ve nothing against him, but I’m still scratching my head about it even now.
Luis,
I’m actually a breast and general surgeon, so don’t take my word for it… shoulder’s anatomy is pretty diverse, but it doesn’t mean it would make you more o less injury-prone. I guess that if the MRI didn’t show anything significant (injury-prone related), it won’t be a problem
Luis, I’m a aqusi Dr, those shoulder ailments,they come and they go.
Pena will prolly clear waivers but who are they making room for !!??? I need to know!
” A quasi,” …damn blackberry.
Nick,
I think they refer to a safe anatomy variant… For example, the type III achromion is injury-prone (not safe), that’s easy to get in a MRI. If that was the case, they would’t sign him
Thanks jmv and Jmills
Hopefully is not serious
So if Pena clears wavers, then what are the options? Trade or release? How about retain?
waivers
Chad?
I really hope Pena lands somewhere. I like him.
Chad,
We all get the point about the replacements. Excelent reading.
Luis, no problem
So if Pena clears wavers, then what are the options?
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He goes to the minor leagues.
Good, then we’ll have him back.
Trisha if he clears waivers he goes to triple A, if i am not kistaken
Joseph,and adams are both playing well,and laird had a great july.
Adams has been mostly playing 3b,since arods injury,wich is interesting,but it may be because joseph playing 2b so well.as chad pointed out already.
With joseph,adams,laird, pena will be claimed or released.
*mistaken* that is
Yep, sadly for Ramiro, there is a bunch of players with more upside in the minors.. I really like the guy, but it seems his best option is to look outside of the Yankees
Pena is only neede if we are thin for an infield bench,in the minors,or majors,and that is not the case anymore with nix,chavez,adams,joseph,laird,and maybe more.
Not sure if they can or will release him.
Sorry to hear about El Nino being DFA’d.
Didn’t realize that Mason has to have surgery.
http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....oss-73313/
Another thing with pena,there is nowhere to play him with nunez,laird,joseph,adams,etc…
I hope cash doesn’t back up the truck in an effort to get his white whale , I mean cliff lee. I’d be ok with a salary dump but not taking on salary and dumping prospects. But with only 37 players on the 40 man, something is developing here. To quote a Mr Sherlock Holmes “The game is afoot”
Thanks guys. Maybe Cashman knows something behind the scenes and maybe some other team will pick him up. There are certain players that just have some kind of vulnerability about them and I always feel really sad when they end up being somehow arabesqued. I felt that way about Rickee Ledee too. That just about broke my heart for him when they traded him away.
I expect Pena to clear waivers, but if he doesn’t, good for him and he gets to play in the MLB.
Do these guys in the minors have agents watching out for them?
austin I’m with you. If he gets a chance to play in the majors for some team I will be very happy for him.
Hi YF,
Did you go to see Betances? How was it? Not good for Mason, fortunately is not his throwing arm….About El Nino, Yup is sad, but i don’t think he has a role on the team…Wherever he ends up i hope he does well
Sorry to read that Williams has a dislocated shoulder. I was afraid of that when he hurt his shoulder diving. At least it is his non-throwing shoulder. He should be fine in 6-8 weeks I would think.
Give me Pena , then I can trade Escobar for something else
luis, yes, but I missed the first couple of innings. He was pretty inconsistent with his delivery, dragging his arm and not following through at times. Zoilo played CF and misplayed a ball. JR had his usual patient AB’s. Adams unfortunately DH’d so I didn’t get to see him play 3B again. It was about 100 degrees in the sun. So, I didn’t stick around very long.
“jmills says:
August 2, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Give me Pena , then I can
trade Escobar for something
else”
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We’ll take Encarnacion for Pena. Limited time offer
I think minor leaguers have like a 7 year contract.
Pena is around that,at that,or past that.
-jmv,…you’ve got it !
Chad would know much more than i do about it,but pena has nowhere to play with our ml club not need ing anyone,including nunez,and adams,joseph,laird healthy,and playing well.
YF,
I don’t blame you….Adams should be in triple A in no time…Zoilo shouldn’t take long to follow suit…
Deal, jmills. Don’t forget the Munson card, LOL.
- jmv – its safe and sound anytime you guys need it
jmv,
there is a mud contest before you can have that card
Pena is past 7 years so he can probably opt for free agency.
Luis, I’ll leave it up to you Friday son!
Anybody hear from gb7 ??????
Hope he is ok.
Not a huge fan of his but………..
Ron, GB7 is fine.
luis,
Please get yourself a shoulder MRI before the fight. I’ll do the same. Mud can be tricky
Go for it, boys!
jmv August 2nd, 2012 at 11:37 pm
luis,
Please get yourself a shoulder MRI before the fight. I’ll do the same. Mud can be tricky
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My shoulder is already pretty messed up, so no worries
Luis,….Thurman received with a ” messed ” up shoulder and then some.
Some team that needs a very good glove and a good quick runner will pick up Pena.
Too bad he couldn’t much for us.
Gonna start training for the mud contest then!
Good night all
Hope Pena finds a better home
jmills,
The thing is that i was a pitcher…I still can’t throw over the shoulder
Good night jmv …Que descanses amigo
Rest in Peace, Thurman.
jmv August 2nd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
37 players right now in the 40-man, according to yankees.com. Don’t understand
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I count 38. Did you count A-Rod?
Petite, Romine,Aardsma, Feliciano and Cabral are on the 60 day DL and may be coming off before the end of the year. They will probably need Pena’s spot soon but they didn’t have to do it right now.
YF,…..I’m aiming to rest
YF – thanks for your support – u owe me,….nada!!
Good night everyone
Luis R.I.P.
Alas, poor Pena. I knew him well.
Nick, I really liked your Steve McQueen films out there
I always take visitors past the house in the opening scene of “Bullit” when I’m showing them around the city.
Nick, hold on! My WRX is tres ready
Pena had to be removed from the 40 man because he has no options left, so they had no choice but to DFA (which takes you off the 40 man) him to send him down. I don’t think its a prelude to any kind of trade.
Actually I am wrong, he does have an option, which is why he was on the 40 man and in the minor leagues to begin with. He was on the active roster all of 2010. So nevermind, this is a curious move.
Pena is buddies with Cervelli, right? Maybe they figured if they were going to screw over Cervelli, they might as well screw over Pena too.
Viva el Nino! He’ll land on his feet. nick whats this about s. Mc Queen?
Uncle Ellsworth- Steve McQueen couldn’t drive his own car!
Jmills. explain. he could ride a motorocycle like nobodys business. And was in the baja 500. Thats like sayin michael j fox csnt ride a skateboard!
Ellsworth, admitedly – u have me there!
McQueen wrecked soooo many cars, a stand in was reQuired
I don’t think you can release a minor leaguer ,or take him off a ml roster unless they pass through waivers.
Maybe it is just to clear a roster spot for a joseph,adams,montgomery,etc…
If he clears waivers,he can go to the minors,but won’t have a ml roster spot,or he gets traded,or released if he doesn’t have to,or wan’t to go to the minors.
Anthony rizzo simply tearing it up for the cubs.
Another bad trade by the rs that will keep them struggling for years.
They did what the yankees used to do.
Trade prospects for instant gratification,and it is killing them.
Rizzo is doing better than agone,and is a big kid.
This is why if i’m the yankees,i trade cano,and granderson in the offseason for 5-6 elite prospects.
It easily can be done.
I’d demand a 3b,2b,cf,rf,c,and one more,maybe a pitcher,or catcher.
Then reset the lt,and spend like crazy.
We would be loaded.
Instead of signing an almost 32,and 33 year old player for 4-6 years at 40 million,or more.
We could fix a ton of positions,keep all of our p[rospects,and be able to spend in fa to stay competitive.
Cano,and granderson are our only chances to really reload,and retool the entire team,while keeping all of our prospects.
We should target players that are elite prospects,and just about ml ready.
Ron……..For certain you move Granderson, and I’m on the fense about moving Cano…….But if the right deal came about I’m trading him as well
I don’t think you would get elite prospects for 1 year of Granderson.
Easily get 2-3 for cano,and granderson,who both only have a year left.
Even if we got 2 for granderson,3 for cano.
No problem getting 2 top prospects for granderson,3 for cano.
A 3b,cf,2b,and 2 more.
There is simply no way granderson can’t get you 2 top prospects,cano 3.
Wow, Dempster sure did suck in his Texas debut. Eight ERs in 4.2 IP, compared to 26 ERs in his 104 IP in Chicago. Oswalt has also been terrible for Texas, with a 1.69 WHIP and a 6.14 ERA.
dfa pena is the right move, his skill sets are easily replaceable. he maybe a slightly above average defender, but the guy is a extremely poor hitter. Yankees are trying to find spots for adams and others to get abs at AAA.
dempster got smacked ard as expected against a good AL team. His whip and stuff simply screams alarm in a dh league.
i doubt you get 5-6 elite prospects for granderson and cano but if the right pieces present itself, it certainly merit considerations both financially and logically. I would also move Mo and Jeter for rhe right pieces as well. no one should be sacred.
it’s a gonna be a dog fight for the last playoff spot in the AL…
I think itll be tough to get fair value for Cano….youre takijg about 1 year of a top 10 player….you deal him for prospects then sure you save money but all those prospects may bust big time as well……..teams arent trading Mike Trouts or Profars for Cano…..so you could shop and see….but Id much rather extend him because hes difficult to replace.
Granderson is a different story…..older….easier to replace….and not the sams caliber of player…so Id probably see what I could get for him this winter.
Its easy to say lets just trade Cano and Granderson for a bunch of prospects……but without knowing exactly what youll get back thats tough to plan on…….a move like that could reload the franchise……it could also really hurt it if all those prospects bust
Idea alert:
Why dont they make a futures game type thing wirh mlb for the olympics and try to bring back baseball as an olympic sport?
Logistically it just wouldnt work with big leaguers…..but they could make it work using minor league guys as those guys seasons end soon anyway and they can be much more flexible with scheduling ….
I think itd be cool and really promote the game
Dempster may be rethinking that decision to approve a deal to pitch in that launching pad. A couple months before free agency.
That was Some statement the Rangers made the last two nights. It is always too early to declare a champ dead, even with all the turmoil they’re facing. They had the same type of swoon in 10 and 11 too and they recovered, albeit maybe with better starters
The Rangers are still very good….I still think they might be the best overall team when they are right…..their pitching is healthy and Josh Hamilton is Josh Hamilton….the Angels certainly have close the gap though with that rotation and the emergence of Trout.
For the Yanks the Angels are probably the most dangerous playoff match up because of the right handed pitching they have….Texas has the 2 lefties and no #1 starter and Detroit has Verlander and then some inconsistency after that……
Chad,
Your posting was very clear. Thanks for the off-day info you provide. It’s always great.
of course LA and Detroit have to make the playoffs first….but I believe they both will
Guys – looks like my Jays are done although I know I shouldn’t , ” think,”in such a manner
– have a great one !
Good morning, and Wang, good evening-
Normally the NYPost is not the 1st Yankee news I scour in the morning but here’s an article about situational hitting and how the Yankees have done now and in the past.
“Situational stats are reason to sweat”
Or is it!?
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....oazDYrjowM
Jays have had a tough year….they are heading in a good direction though…..the one worry is Romero and what the heck happened with him this year…..I really thought he was going to take a step forward towards a front line guy this year……not a huge step back….they have to get him fixed. Maybe they need to send he and Lester to the lefty repair shop….
jmills-
Good morning. Still mad that the Jays traded Travis Snider to the Pirates for Brad Lincoln?
Blake – that’s funny! – yeah
Also from todays NY Post, this is a nice story about Jayson Nix:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....ri0uUhrLCL
YT- gotta’ get to work, but that one bugged me too – rock on!
Blake-
While they are at it the Blue Jays should send Cecil and Happ along with Romero to the lefty repair shop.
“Good morning. Still mad that the Jays traded Travis Snider to the Pirates for Brad Lincoln?”
I hated that deal from the Jays side…….but AA is pretty good so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and see how it unfolds.
“While they are at it the Blue Jays should send Cecil and Happ along with Romero to the lefty repair shop.”
true…..
I think I read that Carl Crawford needs TJ surgery and will get it in the offseason. I wonder if it was his choice to wait or the teams choice. I believe he was one of the 1st seven RS placed on waivers. If he had been on the injured list he could not be placed on waivers this month.
Who in their right mind would put a claim in on him?
Good morning folks!
Great opportunity for Yanks this weekend. Seattle at the Stadium and Baltimore/Tampa Bay going head to head.
Any word on Tex coming back tonight?
Probable pitching matchups:
Millwood vs Sabathia
Fernandez vs Kuroda
Iwakuma vs Garcia
Then it’s off to Detroit and Toronto
This year the team with the best record in either the AL or NL plays the wild card winner of the 1 game playoff, at their stadium for the 1st two games, and it doesn’t matter if the wild card team is in the same division.
Is that correct?
Beating Felix is always tough but they should have a good shot with Kuroda on the hill….2 of 3 is acceptable….sweep is doable.
You can look at the matchups a little more closely and scroll thru the weekend dates here on mlb.com:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/probab.....2012/08/03
Blake-
Am I correct on the above wild card in the palyoffs? The Yankees could theoretically play the Rays in Tampa the 1st 2 games of the ALDS.
*playoffs*
just bumped into Tony Clark…he is huge
IN the last 5 years Ichiro has a .431 BA vs Millwood, Tex .350.
Time to move Ichiro up in the BA!
Clark is listed at 6’8″
Chad will probably post this, but Mason Williams is having surgery on his left shoulder today.
Via his own Twitter feed, Mason Williams is having surgery on his left shoulder today. There’s only a month left in the minor league schedule, so this should end his season. Williams himself says he hopes he’s 100% by Spring Training, so it sounds like that’s a given. Talk about a bad season for both injuries and the minor league season.
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FYI-
Mason Williams bats left and throws right-handed. Any word on what kind of shoulder surgery, Chad?
just bumped into Tony Clark…he is huge
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Tony Clark. 2 memorable plays stand out in that 2004 ALCS. His double in the 9th inning of game 5 that bounced into the seats instead of hugging the wall, preventing the go ahead run for scoring, and then taking a 2-0 cookie from a tiring Keith Foulke right down the middle in the 9th inning of game 6 when he could have crushed it and maybe sent us to the WS. Instead, ended up striking out to end it.
Interesting note — or not — Tony Clark is # 13 on the All-Time HR list for switch hitters with 251 in his career.
Lots of Yankees presence on the list, led of course by the Mick @ # 1 (536).
Then comes Chili Davis # 5 (350), Teixeira # 6 (334), Ruben Sierra # 9 (306), Bernie # 11 (287) and Jorge # 12 (275).
Glad to see Cashman getting rid of these long time organizational guys, knowing that the next crop of prospects are ready to make a move to the higher levels and we don’t needs scrubs/useless pieces anymore.
Chad, That was really classless for you to forget about Thurman Munson yesterday. Enough said.