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Sabathia and Martin together again

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Aug 04, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi has wanted to team CC Sabathia and Russell Martin again for a while, but he finally did it Friday night against the Mariners, and it worked out well for the Yankees.

Sabathia threw a three-hitter with 10 strikeouts in the 6-3 win over the Mariners.

“After a day off, Russell was fresh, as fresh as he can be in the month of August,” Girardi said. “It just felt like the time to do it.”

Sabathia said: “Everybody made such a big deal. We wondering when I was going to throw to him again. … Once we got out there, we were on the same page.”

Martin caught him the first two games, then Chris Stewart caught the next 16, and it didn’t go poorly. Sabathia has a 3.24 ERA with Stewart behind the plate.

But when Game 1 comes, barring injury, it’s going to be Martin catching Sabathia. So working together some can’t hurt.

“I wanted to make sure he had a good start,” Martin said. “If he didn’t, I know there would be some stories about it. … Today just proved I can catch CC.”

Martin also continued to come on a little bit with the bat, delivering a double and a single. And he stole a base and scored two runs. But Martin is still only hitting .195.






63 Responses to “Sabathia and Martin together again”

  1. 86w183 August 4th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Sometimes there can be a special pitcher-catcher relationship, but normally it’s just about the guy on the bump and what he does.

    Greg Maddux always like his personal catcher. Steve Carlton too. When CC gets closer to 300 wins he may get one as well.

    Martin’s last eight games are encouraging. 8-24, 2 HR, 6 RBI. anything close to that the final eight weeks will be just fine.

  2. Yankee Trader August 4th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    Look at Martin’s stats vs the rest of the AL catchers. Look at Offensive wins above replacement. Is that really telling me that Russell Martin is as valuble as Matt Wieters offensively?

  3. austinmac August 4th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    I agree passing through waivers cannot affect the contractual rights of a no trade clause.

    Martin is looking better at the plate. Of course, we’ll get the joy of watching Stewie hit today off Felix.

    I am also depressed as I have returned home where the nights don’t get as low as the high temperatures of Estes Park.

    Can anyone forese the Yankees getting involved in a waiver wire transaction. I don’t unless injuries occur. On that note, I cringe every time Chavez has any type of injury.

  4. Bronx Jeers August 4th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    If serving in tennis is anything like pitching a baseball them Serena Wiiliams could definitely rack up some K’s

  5. blake August 4th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    I think WAR is a really interesting idea…..but its flawed and it really is inaccurate in a lot of cases for me because a great deal of the weight is placed on defensive metrics that really arent all that accurate…..they arent accurate to begin with and its extremely hard to apply to the catching position…….Id 100 times rather have Matt Wieters than Martin…..Gardner out WARs a lot of better players than him as well…..

    I like the idea of it and I use it sometimes in discussions…..but I dont buy it totally in all cases ….at least not until they figure out a better way to quantify and weight defensive in the equation.

  6. Yankee Trader August 4th, 2012 at 9:24 am


    If Martin could just raise his BA vs righties. Since 2009 his BA vs righties was .243, then .252, then .248, and this year .171.

  7. blake August 4th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    “Can anyone forese the Yankees getting involved in a waiver wire transaction. I don’t unless injuries occur. On that note, I cringe every time Chavez has any type of injury.”

    Not really…..I thought maybe theyd claim Lee if he made it to them and think they could claim Johnson if he does…..

  8. blake August 4th, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Hope they can get Martin back in a one year deal and have hin compete with Romine…..kinda think sonebody will offer him 2+ though…..just hope its not the Yankees.

  9. Yankee Trader August 4th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Good morning late risers.

    If you listen and believe Cashman-No the Yankees are not going to make any waiver claims as he feels the Yankees have the tools now to succeed in their division.

    Another key injury this month might change that. I don’t think they’ll even chance trying to block a player if they stand a chance of “inhereting” their costly contract.

  10. austinmac August 4th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Jose Canseco probably taught the team not to do waiver wire block.

  11. 86w183 August 4th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    I like the current roster… if I could just swap Stewart for Jaso that would really help.

    Yanks still get quality starting pitching most nights, have an outstanding bullpen, make pretty few errors and hit lotsa HR.

    It could be a lot worse.

    I hope Dickerson and Nunez get September call ups (calls up?) for some late inning defensive, base running options.

  12. Yankee Trader August 4th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Friday, August 3, 2012
    Cashman Says The Roster Is Just Fine
    From Pete Caldera:

    Amid the executive offices at Yankee Stadium, there were no pangs of remorse as the non-waiver trade deadline passed.

    The Yankees’ motivation to add a prime player could be summed up in a few words.

    “Only if it fell into our lap,” said general manager Brian Cashman, asserting the stance that valuable prospects in the low minors and millions of dollars were not a suitable price for a rental.

    “I believe we’re a championship-caliber club,” Cashman said by phone Thursday, on the eve of a three-game home series against the Seattle Mariners. “I also know we’ve got our work cut out. There’s still work to be done, but we deserve to be in the race.

    “We just have to play good baseball and be consistent the rest of the way. We want to win the division like everyone else does, with the way the wild card is set up.”

    “I think we have enough, collectively between our hitting and our pitching to win in October,” said Cashman, whose two late July deals were for offense – acquiring veteran outfielder Ichiro Suzuki and right-handed hitting corner infielder Casey McGehee.

  13. austinmac August 4th, 2012 at 9:40 am


    I think calls up is correct. Nice to see you thinking this morning.

    Dewayne Wise signed with the White Sox and was assigned to AAA. I guess he didn’t like the traveling road show. More likely his feelings got hurt.

  14. blake August 4th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    “I like the current roster… if I could just swap Stewart for Jaso that would really help.”

    Jaso would be great… cheaply as some better back up options have moved I’m a little surprised they haven’t tried to upgrade from Stewart……cause as much grief as we give Martin if he gets hurt they are royally screwed.

  15. blake August 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Is Austin Aune Derek Jeter’s successor? He’s off to a pretty nice start in the GCL….hopefully he sticks at SS…..maybe he’s this year’s Mason Williams? Long way to go….but we can hope.

  16. Bronx Jeers August 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Martin’s done a lot better since I labeled him “possibly the worst offensive Yankee starting catcher in my lifetime”

    I should have done it sooner :wink:

    Speaking of offensive catchers, Jorge and his wife are at the gold medal Williams-Sharapova match.

  17. yankee21 August 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Only if it fell into our lap,” said general manager Brian Cashman, asserting the stance that valuable prospects in the low minors and millions of dollars were not a suitable price for a rental….

    I would agree with the second part of this quote, I also wouldn’t trade any of NY top 3 or 4 prospects + millions for a 2 month rental.. The first part of this quote though about striking only when a player falls into their laps… really, how often does that happen these days, especially to the Yankees. It just flat out doesn’t happen.

    I think the Yankees still need a catcher who can hit, I like the 86 idea of Jaso if he were available on a claim he could be an option next year even if NY is reluctant to add him into the mix the rest of the season. A reluctance I can understand.

  18. 86w183 August 4th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Yeah, plus the added bonus of Jaso hitting from the left side. Unfortunately he’s the type of guy unlikely to make it thru waivers cuz it wont cost much.

    Hey Austinmac — you sure it isn’t callses upses?

    Was Chavez’ HR the cheapest of the year? Shades of Jeffrey Meier!

  19. Yankee Trader August 4th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    It might be best if the Yankees don’t finish with the best record in the AL, then having to fly to the wild card for 2 games at their stadium. If that game is scheduled the very next day after the 1 game playoff, would you really want to, fly cross country and face the A’s pitching in their spacious stadium, and if they employ the shift?

    How would you like to face the Rays in Tampa where the Yankees have won , ? one game, against the Maddon shift, with their pitchers who can make the shift work for them?

  20. 86w183 August 4th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Gotta do a few honey-do things…. will check in before and after the game, but probably not during. Gets a little psycho in here when Yanks play poorly and I’m crazy enough on my own.

  21. Nick in SF August 4th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    “But Martin is still only hitting .195.”

    He’s come a long way since starting the season at .000. :neutral:

  22. Yankee Trader August 4th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    I’d like to see Ronier Mustellier called up to see if he might be a viable super utility type for next year. Would also like to see Montgomery called up as well as the Almonte’s

  23. yankee21 August 4th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    I rather face OAK then TB even considering how well OAK is playing. I think they are bound to cool off and come back to earth. I consider Maddon the best manager in the game and more often then not he schools Girardi,, I do not like a NY/TB match-up especially if Longoria is healthy and the opening games are in TB.

    On another note why were the playoffs set up in which the division winner has to do all this spur of the moment travel for the opening set with the WC winner, logic would say the WC winner should have to travel overnight. Strange, but then again it is Bud Selig.

  24. Yankee Trader August 4th, 2012 at 9:53 am


    Were you also responsible for Martin’s offensive woes this year?

    James Andrews is still upset with you for not using the proper pen when getting Joba’s autograph, that led to his torn UCL!

  25. Yankee Trader August 4th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Personally, I think the team with the best record in each league should be able to pick who they want to face in the first round.

  26. Dj August 4th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Off topic, but they just showed Jorge Posada at the Women’s Olympic Gold Medal Tennis Final. He looks good!

  27. blake August 4th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    I would love to play Tampa in the ALDS cause they aren’t very good.

  28. blake August 4th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    What I wouldn’t be wild about is having to play the Angels in the ALDS and the first two games in LA……Cause that is very likely at this point.

  29. Nick in SF August 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    YT, there is absolutely no evidence that I gave Russell Martin hitting tips before the season started. :oops:

  30. austinmac August 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    I think the two guys to watch in the GCL are Aune and Andujar. Aune was a highly sought after QB who signed with TCU. That tells you he’s athletic. He has never before focused on baseball. He is off to a good start. Andujar’s stats are not great, but he is 17 and the youngest guy on the team. They must like him not to have in in the DSL.

  31. blake August 4th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Aune’s current line .304 .400 .443 .843

    gotta like the OBP. Hope he

  32. austinmac August 4th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Nick, we just haven’t found the evidence. We know it’s out there. What other explanation can their be for Martin not hitting? You told him just to swing as hard as he can in case he hit it. Admit it or we get out the lamp for your interrogation.

  33. Nick in SF August 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    I’ve never even been to French Canadia. You’ve got nothing on me.

  34. Ys Guy August 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    “There were no talk of playing for pride in the Red Sox clubhouse or getting ready for next season after Friday night’s 6-5 loss in 10 innings against the Twins. Nothing like that.

    But for the first time this season, it was hard not to miss the sense of resignation among the players.

    The season is two-thirds over and the Red Sox have lost one more game than they have won. They are 10 games out of first and four games behind in a crowded wild-card race.

    “That seems to be the story of the season,” Adrian Gonzalez said, his voice just above a whisper.”

    from Pete Abe

  35. Bronx Jeers August 4th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Serena Williams must not like playing tennis very much because she only plays for an hour at a time.

  36. Hassey August 4th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    I think the Wild Card should have to play every playoff game on the road…get a small share of the home team’s revenue…that’ll teach you for not winning the division

  37. blake August 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    The only good thing is that if they have to play the Angels then hopefully theyd have to use Weaver in the WC game…..

  38. Yanks78 August 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    They can still go Wilson-CC; Haren-Andy; Greinke-Kuroda; Weaver-Nova/Hughes/CC on short rest

    That’s what makes them to scary, they can still match up well if they move everyone up. If Detroit loses Verlander in the 1 gm? Fister-CC; Sanchez-Andy; Scherzer-Kuroda

    If Texas loses Harrison, they have to go Darvish-CC; Holland-Andy; Dempster-Kuroda; Feldman vs. whomever

    So Angels would be in far better shape burning Weaver than any other team would.

  39. blake August 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    “So Angels would be in far better shape burning Weaver than any other team would.”

    Yea true……I really wouldnt like seeing them in a short series.

  40. blake August 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    If the season ended today youd have an Angels/Oakland and Braves/Pirates WC games.

    With Yanks, Rangers, White Sox, Nats, Reds, Giants being the divisional winners.

    As.of now the Dodgers, Rays, Tigers all out of the playiffs.playoffs.

  41. DONNYBROOK August 4th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    The Angel SP is getting battered, and their bullpen issa crapshoot at best. Maddon would go to 3 SP’s in the 5 game RD 1, and facing that would be a Serious challenge. Right Now, the Angels would be my choice of opposition in Rd 1. Love seeing Greinke and Dempster get absolutely torched in their 1st encounter with AL Lineups. Again, this is Exactly why Greg Maddux refused to sign with an AL team, even when offered more $$$.

  42. blake August 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    9 cuurent Yankees could be HOFers one day

  43. 86w183 August 4th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Andruw Jones? Not without some help from Ponce DeLeon

  44. blake August 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Of the 9 candidates (Jeter, Arod, CC, Ichiro, Rivera, Cano, Jones, Pettite, Tex).

    Jeter: as much of a lock as you can get….chance to become first 100% vote getter.
    Arod: should be as much a lock as Jeter but wont be because of PED..still gets in IMO
    Rivera: lock
    Jones: borderline.. young decline will hurt him
    Ichiro: first ballot most likely
    Pettite: borderline…PED admission will hurt him and may not have enough anyway.
    Tex: will have to stave off further decline and compile 5 or so more years of good numbers.
    Cano: not there yet but on a first ballot pace
    Sabathia: not there yet but on a first ballot pace.

    My guess is that 8 of the 9 get in eventually….with Andy being the odd man out unfortunately :(

  45. blake August 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Jones won 10 gold gloves and the saber dudes who greatly affect the voters now will get Andrew in I think…..hes not a HOFer for me….but I think he gets in. He and Andy will have the weakest cases I think unless Tex, Cano, or Sabathia have significant injuries. CC might win 300 games and Cano could be the greatest 2B ever before hes done.

  46. DONNYBROOK August 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    First ballot inductees are Rare. Ichiro? Nope. Cano? FAR too early to predict. Jones? Border line? HAHAHAHAHAHA

  47. DONNYBROOK August 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    What HOF OF’er is there due to his glove?

  48. blake August 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    Cano is on a first ballot pace….I said he wasnt there yet. And I do think Ichiro will be first ballot

  49. blake August 4th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    “What HOF OF’er is there due to his glove?”

    Ever hear of ozzie smith….couldnt hit a lick for most of his career…..certainly didnt hit close to 500 homers.

  50. DONNYBROOK August 4th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    I said OF’er.

  51. jacksquat August 4th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    We usually have a lineup by now, from someone, no?

  52. blake August 4th, 2012 at 11:23 am


    Yea i didnt see that….andrew isnr a HOFer for me…..but I do think hes got a good chance to get in.

  53. AZ88 August 4th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Cano is going to be the best 2nd baseman of all time, he will get in

  54. DONNYBROOK August 4th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Was nice seeing Jeet lay down that Sac Bunt yesterday vs the fireballer. Almost knocked the bat outta his hands.

  55. blake August 4th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    I think we can end the Dream Team vs Fake Dream team 2012 debate…..

  56. 86w183 August 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    I’ve seen better defense in the McDonald’s All American Game than they played today. That was embarrassing.

    Andruw Jones is a .256 hitter without even 2,000 career hits. Gold Gloves have never wowed voters all that much. I doubt he ever tops 33 % of the vote. My vote on probability based on career to date:

    Rivera, Jeter, Ichiro — All in, first ballot for Jeter and Mo

    A-Rod — Total wild card with the sanctimonious hypocrites who vote

    Andy — Debatable, probably not without another great post-season

    Jones — nope

    Tex, CC, Cano — at least five more good-to-great seasons.

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