In another role, Phelps proves himself again
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 09, 2012 
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David Phelps has done a lot in his first big league season. He’s been a mopup man, a trusted long man, a spot starter, an undeserving minor leaguer, and tonight he was the Yankees setup man for a day. He faced what would have to be considered the Tigers three best hitters — Miguel Cabrera, Prince Fielder and Austin Jackson — and got through it with two outs and a routine single. He fell behind against both Cabrera and Jackson before getting them out.
“It just goes to show he’s not going to let in,” Chris Stewart said. “Miguel Cabrera might be the best hitter in the game right now. (Phelps) went out on a 3-0 pitch, made a strike, and then executed a fastball in on the next pitch. Hopefully he just keeps rolling with that. That’s obviously a confidence booster, and he can just take that into the rest of the yaer.”
It’s hard not to believe in Phelps more and more as he keeps doing things like this. It wasn’t a perfect outing — Fielder had the base hit, and Phelps’ foot slipped on the mound leading to a balk — but Phelps made some big pitches. He seems to have done that a lot these past few months.
“When I first got called up, I didn’t want to get into deep counts,” he said. “I mean, I probably would have been more nervous. But now I feel like, regardless of the count, I feel like I can still make a pitch to get a guy out. That’s been the biggest thing for me.”
The more he’s done this, the more Phelps has looked like a legitimate piece of the Yankees future. In one role or another.
“As a starter you go out and you’ve got different adrenaline rushes throughout the game,” Phelps said. “Whereas, in this situation, you come in and it’s right there in front of you. It builds up during the game and you can see it coming, whereas as a starter, it can kind of get on you quick. The game can speed up on you in an instant. Here you can kind of seeing it coming and you get that rush of adrenaline right away.”
The kid has been as reliable as anyone out of the pen since he has been given opportunities. I can’t see why he wouldn’t be able to carry over success as a SP and the Yankees need to develop him better than they did with Hughes/Chamberlain. He could be a huge piece to the puzzle both for the rest of the year and in the future.
Bynum beat the Celtics in the 2009 Finals, while the loss of Perkins for the Celtics was the main reason they lost Games 6 and 7.
No Bynam in 2008 Finals………..During the AS break Phelps name was spoken with great respect by more than one club’s MLB talent evaluator………He’ll be in the rotation next season, I just hope it’s in the Bronx
Machado goes 2 for 4 with a triple in his debut but the O’s lose. Good job Royals.
Yep, Phelps is developing nicely.
On another note – Sanchez 3 for 5 w/ HR
Heathcott 3 for 4 w/ 2B, BB and 2 SB. Up to 300 now, slugging over 500. Playing CF.
” waldo geraldo faldo August 9th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Bynum beat the Celtics in the 2009 Finals, while the loss of Perkins for the Celtics was the main reason they lost Games 6 and 7.”
I think you mean Pau Gasol beat the Celtics in the 2009 finals…Bynum averaged as many fouls as rebounds in the series (4.2) and shot 36%, was a non factor. Gasol went for 19 pts 9 rebs and shot 60%.
It looks as if the deal is done, and Gasol will remain with the Lakers, while Harrington will go to the Magic instead of the previously reported Lakers.
Excellent for the Lakers. Gasol, Howard, Artest, Bryant, Nash. Bench of Hill, Jamison, Blake, McRoberts, and other fill ins.
Andy, Bynum’s length and size on the defensive end was key, while the loss of Perkins was also key, in 2009.
*Magic* not Celtics in 2009 finals. Bynum wasn’t even much better in the 2010 finals.
Pat M – do you expect Yankees will keep him in the pen for the rest of the year at this point?
“Machado goes 2 for 4 with a triple in his debut but the O’s lose. Good job Royals.”
That kid looks like a star in the making once he puts some more meat on those bones…just don’t know whether he can stay at SS at 6’3″
You’re right about Perkins in 2010, and don’t forget Garnett’s knee injury in 08-09 playoffs…I still believe Celtics would have won 3 straight titles if those injuries don’t happen.
My apologies. I am referring to the rematch of the 2008 Finals. Bynum was key defensively in that series. Without his size and length, the do not win.
Heathcott seems to have some real tools. Let’s hope he can be healthy. If he does, he may move quickly.
“Heathcott seems to have some real tools”
he does….he’s good at beating up Sox catchers too!
“….just don’t know whether he can stay at SS at 6’3? ”
They had him at 3B tonight.
Hi blake! Hi austinmac! U guys r in bug trouble tomorrow
A 6’3″ shortstop?
It’ll never work.
The Yankees are going to need every OF prospect they can get with Swisher on the way out, Gardner a piece of glass and Granderson overpriced, closing in on a decline.
When you look up and see Mesa, Almonte, Flores, Heathcott, Austin, Santana and Mason Williams, you realize the Yankees have been maybe at least somewhat hedging against the departure of one or more members of the current outfield. I know some of those guys are filler but Williams, Austin and Heathcott are legit prospects. It may take years for them to see the majors and one or more or all might not pan out but it’s nice to have a surplus of prospects at a position of need.
Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Podsednik back with #RedSox on major-league deal.
Jmills,
When you say “bug trouble” I assume you are threatening us with midges. We brought bug spray.:)
I’m not as upset as some about Phelps in the pen. Nice to have a starter like him ready to go, but whatcha gonna do? I guess he’s the new (and improved) Aceves.
he does….he’s good at beating up Sox catchers too!
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Yep, Slade will clean the Yankee escutcheon of the stain left by A Rod’s feeble defense against the Masked Marauder.
D12 to the lake show…and gasol stays. Great deal.
AndyFTM………Sadly I think Phelps is the swing / 6th starter at this point……..However he’s in the wings just waiting to Wally Pip someone…….Freddy Garcia ????
Benny,
Every team got better/something they needed. Magic got rid of Richardson’s salary, young players, and three first round picks. Lakers got Gasol instead of Harrington.
Just got get past Stern.
Pat M…I’ve been thinking that Phelps might take Nova’s spot. He’s looked horrible lately. Garcia has at least been giving the team a chance to win.
Just got get past Stern.
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It will none of the teams involved are league owned thank God.
Nice to have a starter like him ready to go, but whatcha gonna do? I guess he’s the new (and improved) Aceves.
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Start him maybe? So he can build the required physical innings limits that starters need? Aceves really worked out very well for the Yankees, where they broke him and then cut him.
Austinmac – we require a good,” deal,” of,…bug spray.
Aceves still playing for the Yankees.
PeteAbe
As we were waiting to go into the clubhouse, Alfredo Aceves pulled up in a utility cart. He drove from the bullpen via the concourse
PeteAbe
The “we know we’re done, we’ll try reasonably hard to be professional the rest of way” line has been crossed by the #RedSox
The goal of the Yankees should not be to extinguish the prospect lives of their young cost controlled players on 1 season frivolities.
So it’s okay to booze during a game, but not walk afterwards? Mmm. Okay.
But not okay to drive afterwards? Haha.
Sorry Austinmac! That was harsh, sorry!!!
Good evening everyone,
What a rewarding win…Chavez words made some impact and he has step up his game a few notches, he is a leader…Ibanez with some very good at bats…The BP doing it’s job.
Soriano did his best Drob impersonation with his Houdini act on the 9th…Hiroki deserved the win, what a pitcher.
Phelps did his job…It is a pity the way he is being wasted…Granted he pitched some very important outs, but this might hurt our future by not building his innings in order to avoid a dead arm season in the future, like JF is suggesting …Pat M, I sure hope that he Wally Pip’s Garcia…
Hiroki Kuroda
“I wanted to say something, but I think Joe said everything I wanted to say.”
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Tongue in cheek?
http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/
A good article on Granderson’s woes. (Third one down)
Bo,
Thanks for the link…Very interesting read…It only confirms my take that he won’t age very well and that he has gotten pull happy…I’ll say it again…I love Grandy, but I would trade him this winter if I can.
Anyway…Have a very good night all
Pau Gasol is not in the Howard trade to LA, just as Kobe wanted………I’m with Face on the Phelps innings importance……One would think after the Hughes debacle they would learn, unless they see Phelps as the 5 th arm next season and will only be asked to toss 160-170 innings…..However he needs more than just 2-3 innings a week……….
Right now Phelps is a better option than most in our pen. Even if Joba and Robertsen get consistent, they’ll still keep Phelps out there since they would need to get him back up to 100 pitches to start and that would take weeks, which at this point in the season, the Yankees don’t have. I think they’re expecting Andy to return next month and they’d probably go to Warren who is stretched out in a pinch.
That being said, if this front office turns that kid into a short reliever I’ll be furious.
He has the exact attitude to be a starter. I’m tired of this team taking the easy road and turning these guys into short relievers.
Phelps will be needed. I highly doubt Phil Hughes will resign with the Yankees when he hits free agency after next year. I doubt he’d want to pitch in a park that punishes fly ball pitchers and maybe he wants to go back out West when it’s his turn to pick where to play.
The Yankees need to develop Phelps as a starter. The yo-yo’ing of these guys stalls their careers in many cases.
Yankees win….Lakers get Dwight great sports day for me
Lol, there is a link to the game thread for tomorrow already (doesn’t work).
I consider Granderson an All Star talent that is severely underperforming his talent base. Swisher is a direct cause of my depleted Alcohol reserves. That wild SO on the hit and run, once upon a time would have me winging to TO, just so I could heckle him in RF.
Chavez on the other hand just has me amazed and delighted in all facets.
I’ve been saying for years now that Bo Does Know !!!!! My Man !!!
The Yankees need to develop Phelps as a starter. The yo-yo’ing of these guys stalls their careers in many cases.
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Totally agreed
The Hughes, Joba, Noesi, Phelps saga is repetitive, tiresome, shortsighted and destroys pitcher values for the team both in playing time and value/added contracts.
Hughes is one year away from free agency, getting pricey and still a two pitch starter that keeps throwing the same FB for the same results.
jacksquat August 10th, 2012 at 12:14 am e
Lol, there is a link to the game thread for tomorrow already (doesn’t work).
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I’m with about half of the Yankees beat stuck at the Detroit airport waiting for a flight that was supposed to leave almost three hours ago. I tried to work ahead and little bit and get a game post ready for tomorrow, then accidentally posted the thing instead of saving it as a draft. What can I say? I’ve been in Detroit too long.
Hey Pat
Coming from the man with the Pool Cleaners, still fills me with envy. Color coordinated work uniforms. Lucky Baastid.
“Hughes is one year away from free agency, getting pricey and still a two pitch starter that keeps throwing the same FB for the same results.”
Those results have been pretty good this year.
Those results have been pretty good this year.
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True, but all the wasted years and they’ve lost a ton of value. Granted Phelps is a special case as he’s over 25 and has a backlog of innings but still, it’s the same old song. Here’s hoping that it turns out better.
I agree completely.
No props to them for how they’ve handled a single organizational pitching prospect.
A look at how Yankees and Mariners have handled young pitchers differently.
http://www.trentonian.com/arti.....full_story
Not sorry! – j – Reggie rules
A look at how Yankees and Mariners have handled young pitchers differently.
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Good read, but then comes the Banuelos kicker. And all the pitcher injuries in the Yankee minors.
There is so much mutually exclusive information out there that you don’t know where to turn. For example Swisher goes on a new and improved training program and pulls up lame three times this season. This weight training fad seems to run counter to what was the Baseball Axiom. Core strength and loose muscles. Weight lifting was anathema.
Bo Knows…….We did very little lifting it was all isometrics, lean muscle mass…….The offseason that I didn’t have to play winter ball in Florida, I really just screwed around until Thanksgiving ….Then it was light workouts and swing and hitting whiffle balls while the snow fell …….However when camp was 6 weeks away or a few days after New Years is when it was time to get real and hit Vic Tanny’s and get ready for camp……Times have changed dramically since the early 70′s
We did very little lifting it was all isometrics, lean muscle mass…….
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With me it was hard physical labor, strenghth and stamina. Fingertip pushups, I’ll remember those forever. “Strong wrists, you have to snap that bat”.
You pitch bales all day, you’re not working a muscle group, you’re lifting from your toes.
Anyone still believing that the Sux will be in the mix for the playoffs?
Bo Knows…….I was a middle infielder…5-11 185 lbs………Today I’m busting my tail to get down from the current 220 pounds……..Still have muscle, the problem is it’s under the fat suit I wear…..I drove the ball out of the park…..
Pat
Yeah, I was 6 – 190, still the same, well probably shrunk a bit. Coffee, cigarettes and nerves.
I still sneer at the puff boys – all them pretty muscles, no stamina. “Half an hour and I’ll drop you like a two foot putt”. Football players were especially hilarious on the oil rigs. Some 140 lb dweeb that came up to their belly button would drop them in an hour. “See those pallets of cement boys? Well we need them in the hopper”. They’re gasping like fish, he’s just working up a sweat.
No big deal guys, those cement bags are only 80 pounds, there’s only two pallets.
No fork lift ?????
Chad Jennings August 10th, 2012 at 12:22 am
jacksquat August 10th, 2012 at 12:14 am e
Lol, there is a link to the game thread for tomorrow already (doesn’t work).
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I’m with about half of the Yankees beat stuck at the Detroit airport waiting for a flight that was supposed to leave almost three hours ago. I tried to work ahead and little bit and get a game post ready for tomorrow, then accidentally posted the thing instead of saving it as a draft. What can I say? I’ve been in Detroit too long.
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Wow, that sucks. Hope you get to sleep in tomorrow.
Bo knows August 9th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Yep, Phelps is developing nicely.
On another note – Sanchez 3 for 5 w/ HR
Heathcott 3 for 4 w/ 2B, BB and 2 SB. Up to 300 now, slugging over 500. Playing CF.
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Great for Slade. If he can stay healthy and his shoulder can continue to heal and strengthen, he could one again emerge as a real prospect. He lost a lot of development time, but he seems to be back on track.
I think Flores might be the sleeper in the OF prospects…..I keep hearing comparisons to Cano on him
Yankeesource ?@YankeeSource
Eric Chavez since A-Rod injury (7/24 v. SEA): 12-34, .353, 2 2B, 4 HR, 9RBI, 9R, 4BB, 4K
that’s what you call….gettin it done.
“I think Flores might be the sleeper in the OF prospects…..I keep hearing comparisons to Cano on him”
I hear and read mixed reviews on him….he’s certainly performing though.
I was impressed with Phelps and how he handled Miggy yesterday…..never tentative….went right at him…..even when he fell behind 3-0…..made a 3-1 pitch and got him out…..you can see the intensity with him….he gets after it.
Good morning-
Link to Baby Bombers Recap 8/9/12:
http://www.pinstripealley.com/.....-tampa-win
Finally this year there are some promising position players that actually might wear pinstripes soon rather than being traded.
Freddy Garcia goes tonight. Here are his regular season stats vs. the Blue Jays. Not pretty! Now Batista and Arencibia plus Lawrie are out. If he still has a rough outing tonight, is it time to insert David Phelps into the rotation and build up his innings?
http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....ddy-garcia
Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
Andy Pettitte’s setback cost him about 7 to 10 days, says Yankees GM Brian Cashman. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....ka7qWutAUJ
” is it time to insert David Phelps into the rotation and build up his innings?”
ideally I would say yes…..but I think the Yankees think they need him more in the bullpen….it stinks because they are basically wasting a year of his service time (well not wasting….but not ideally using him).
At this point by the time they sent him down to get stretched out again the season would be about over…..so I think you have to just try and get value out of him in relief and then maybe send him to winter ball to try and get his innings to a point where he could be the 5th starter next year if need be…….that didn’t work out so well for Noesi given how he’s pitched in Seattle this year though.
Blake-I read that about Pettitte, who initially with the June 27th injury was 6-8 weeks. putting him back end of August , or at least the 1st of September. The Yankees, might only have him for a late September series now. The first playoff series with the 2-3 format with one day off will require 4 starters
Blake-
If Phelps has to be stretched out again who gets the callup if a starter goes on the DL-Ramon Ortiz, 38 and no velocity above 88, or Adam Warren?
Morning Guys.
Just a brief visit before I head out for today’s hike.
There’s gonna be lot’s of change on the Yankees in the OS IMO.
Particularly the OF.
I hope at C too.
Anyone out there? MTU?
What were you thinking when “Untuck” came out in the 9th to face the bottom 3 in the Tigers order?
Feeling confident? Now Avila leads off with a double and gets a pinch runner.
Was that a John Wetteland save or what?
Will Soriano opt out ?
I say yes.
My Fantasy OF for next season.
Melky- LF
Ellsbury-CF
Upton- RF
If you’re gonna dream. Dream big.
YT-
I did not. But he came through. That’s all that counts.
On to Toronto and another series win.
Nova and Hughes back on the beam ?
MTU-
Soriano-
If Boras gets him a 3/30 deal he should take it for security, but if it’s 3/24 Boras might advise him to wait. I personally hope he opts out and Rivera comes back on a team friendly one year deal with a club option for 2014.
I think it’s more likely we’ll see an OF of Gardner, Granderson and Melky, but it’ll be the Mesa Melky.
When they say you need to stay off the ankle, they mean you have to stay off the ankle.
I think it’s human nature to want to start doing your normal things as soon as you feel better. But often you feel better before you actually are better. Or rather, you start to resume your normal routine as soon as your can “manage.”
Stinks.
MTU,
If you happen to fall into a crevasse and need to cut your own arm off to escape slow death, fill us in so we don’t worry.
Morning all! I wasn’t able to be around much yesterday but did see some musing about Team Greedy
Nova and Hughes back on the beam ?
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Balance beam?
Need quality innings from them to rest the bullpen.
Jmills team is depleted-time for the Yankees to make a run and distance themselves from the rest of the pretenders in the AL East!
Slade Heathcott has been around a few years but he’s only 21 in Tampa, almost 22. He’ll turn 23 in 2013 and 24 in late 2014.
I see The Yanks gained a game up in the standings yesterday over the O’s.
The division lead really hasn’t moved at all since the fiasco in Oakland when they they lost 4 games off it quicker than you can say Coco Crisp.
Have a good day everyone.
Jeers-
I’ll be sure to send it C.O.D. ?
Bret -
And I have it on good authority that Slade Heathcott will be 25 in 2015. LOL (Just being silly here.
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Go David!