Sabathia going on the DL
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 11, 2012 
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CC Sabathia is going on the 15-day disabled list with soreness in his left elbow. The injury first popped up after last week’s start against the Mariners, and an MRI showed no structural problem.
“As for our concern, it’s pretty low-level,” Joe Girardi said.
Sabathia had his left arm iced before today’s game, which is not overly unusual for a pitcher. Girardi said pregame that it was a non-issue — “preventative stuff,” he said — and Girardi defended that comment postgame, saying the Yankees really were trying to prevent Sabathia from missing Monday’s scheduled start. The decision to DL him wasn’t made until after today’s game, when Sabathia fought the decision, saying he was healthy enough to pitch Monday.
Two days after Sabathia’s August 3 start at home, he felt some elbow soreness and went for an MRI, which came back clean. That elbow pain is part of the reason Girardi held Sabathia to less than 100 pitches in Detroit, but Sabathia again felt some soreness after that start. Girardi said the Yankees considered having Sabathia simply skip a start without going on the disabled list, but they ultimately decided to take this route.
No more tests are scheduled.
“We want to wipe it out,” Girardi said.
Girardi would not say who will get the start….Warren? Phelps is no longer stretched out….
bruceb August 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
C. Better now than later.
Indeed, but with Phelps not stretched out, our pitching resources are looking pretty thin now, especially with two of the AL’s big-hitting teams coming into town next week.
Can I just point out that Cashman’s relentless pursuit of pitching has been absolutely proven correct this season?
RadioKev August 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
jacksquat August 11th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Maybe not a popular opinion (because it’s easier to be “nice” rather than objective), but I don’t think Vizquel should get in the HoF. His hitting was just too poor, and he hung around and compiled quite a while. Over half his comps in HoF were sentimental Veteran’s Committee votes.
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Yet look at Johnny Damon or Hideki Matsui who aren’t in the league. Hanging around isn’t insignificant, it means something.
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Sure, it means he was good enough to be useful to someone. Doesn’t add to his HoF resume imo though.
What the hell is going on??????
Phelps not stretched out.
Ramon Ortiz-38 yo journeyman
Adam Warren-
Derek Lowe
Jair Jurrjens
No good choices and CC was due to pitch Monday
We’re a starter short.
And still waiting for someone in the baseball community to define “stretched out”. Phelps was starting, what, a month ago? Did his muscular structure change that much in a month? Don’t think so. He could start. If I had to bet though, I’d bet since they DL’d CC they will call someone up. Too bad Betances and Banuelos are not in position for that.
MarcCarig RT @pamsson: @MarcCarig is the dl move retroactive? / it will be. yanks plan on cc being eligible for return 8/23.
As Trish would say, ” Drat.”
Warren pitched 8 innings of no hit ball the other day… I just DO NOT want to see John Maine…
Chris Schwinden- Who’s that?
SWB stats:
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats.....8;sid=t531
I bet it’s Warren who gets the call…Hopefully he can have a better experience than his first call-up….tough task against the Rangers’ line-up
Warren sucked last time, I’d rather see a veteran like Russ Ortiz or Jon Maine who’ve had success and won’t be afraid of the moment
fudge….well good thing we haven’t tried to beef up our rotation. All of these injuries are SUPER EASY to overcome, right ?
JAP-
Anyone at Trenton?
Have we seen any pitcher only spend 15 days on DL with a sore elbow?
Alfred, I have no idea who you are talking about, but I wish you well
MarcCarig Asked Girardi about Phelps postgame, and how many pitches he could throw if needed, but said they hadn’t gotten that far yet.
This a a serious setback to my happiness
Jmv – you’ll figure it out!
RadioKev August 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Can I just point out that Cashman’s relentless pursuit of pitching has been absolutely proven correct this season?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY6wwAhvirY
About Vizquel and his poor bat:
Ozzie Smith .262 .337 .328 .666
Omar Vizquel .272 .336 .352 .689
Looks pretty similar to me
Time for Cashman to scour the waiver wire.
“jmills August 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Jmv – you’ll figure it out!”
Sure! going to the cinema with my wife and kid. To watch Brave.
jmills-
Has Ricky Romero been thru waivers yet!
Mitch Williams, who more and more talks like a drug addled Harry Carey, said…”They can reach down into the minors because they have a couple of YOUNG prospects and say here’s the ball”…Hmmm..He was using his 2011 cliff notes apparently….If Williams and Kruk played Jeapardy climate change would reverse itself before Alex would get the answer in the form of a question…
I remember 2009, Yankees went trough a lot of injuries in SP, Girardi went with 3-4 innings from Aceves and so on. It’ll depend on the schedule, I guess
Hi YT! – not yet
JAP-
Trenton has lefty Vidal Nuno.
How about Brett Marshall?
How bout Chase Wright ?
That worked out well.
They shoulda kept Phelpsie stretched out.
Unfortunately, the team we are facing is Texas. Warren could start; he’d be on 5 days rest, but not sure if you want to pitch him against a team like Texas. Michael O’Connor’s on appropriate rest but I wouldn’t want to see him… or Delcarmen or any of the SWB starters. Marshall would be interesting, but I doubt they’d pitch him; he’s still working on his breaking pitches, plus if they pull him today, he’d be on 7 days rest. Dellin pitches tomorrow, so he could go, but he has been up and down, and I doubt they’d go there and disrupt him. Plus probably concerned about control and pitch count. Regardless, Phelps can piggyback whoever goes. Too bad they no longer have DJ…
Carig says he’ll be back on 8/23. Only two starts.
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Ozzie Smith: FLD %: .978 13 Golden Gloves
Omar Vizquel: FLD %: .985 14 Golden Gloves
I could go on…
YT, Brett Marshall is supposed to pitch today. He’d be on 7 days rest.
MTU!
How are you? Good to catch you back
Nuno’d actually be on 4 days rest, so time frame would work… But wonder if they’d go there…
jmv August 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
About Vizquel and his poor bat:
Ozzie Smith .262 .337 .328 .666
Omar Vizquel .272 .336 .352 .689
Looks pretty similar to me
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Different eras.
OPS+
Ozzie 87
Vizquel 82
And I consider Ozzie a better defender.
Vizquel has been romanticized into Ozzie defensively, but I don’t buy it.
I’ve watched baseball Vizquel’s entire career and never once did I think he was a Hall of Famer, even in his prime.
Jmv-
Much better thanks.
Thanks for the photos. Keep ‘em coming.
Jack, did you see the defensive stats?. And the OPS+ is similar, too (not good)
Where’s Sergio Mitre when you need him?
season over with CCs bad elbow
yf, yanks are not bringing up AA pitchers to face Texas. then again whomever starts for the Yanks dont really matter to me, it’s one game if they lose what’s the big deal. I throw warren in there, unless you think losing texas will scar him for life. i
YF-
If you wanted a lefty from either Trenton or SWB, what other choice is there besides Vidal Nuno?
I’ve seen Ramon Ortiz pitch-not impressed.
I suppose they could bring up Cory Wade while Cashman tries to pick up a waiver wire pitcher, and pitch Phelps-Wade-Eppley thru 5-6 innings.
i think the down time for cc could be a good thing come the PS. i think he’s been shot when the playoffs came around several times and that’s reflected in his PS #’s.
yankfan August 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
season over with CCs bad elbow
Joe Girardi doesn’t believe so but two stints on the DL in such close proximity – even for unrelated injuries – does not augur well.
What Yankee pitcher this year has only been on the 15 day DL with a sore pitching elbow. Didn’t Campos have a normal MRI? Banuelos too?
thats funny! jumping off the bridge in august. did you notice who won the WS last year? on this date the cardinals were without their ace (for the whole season) and were 4 games out of first. the PS is a crapshoot any team that gets in can get hot and win it all even without their ace. (and we will not be without ours)
jmv, I don’t really count gold gloves, even though Ozzie and Vizquel probably deserved all/most of them. Defensive metrics show Ozzie the better defender, despite a lower career fld%.
YT-
CC is a Clydesdale.
Campos and Banuelos are Burros.
Big difference.
i think he’s been shot when the playoffs came around several times and that’s reflected in his PS #’s
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Sept ERA’s
2011 – 3.08
2010 – 3.35
2009 – 2.39
2008 – 2.11
Doesn’t seem like he tires in the last month of the season. You are telling me that a few extra starts after that is making the difference?
MTU-
You could count on CC for 7-8 innings.
Maybe the Yankees should bring up Cory Wade and use Phelps, Wade abd Eppley for the fist 6-7 nnings
CC to the disabled list!!! Oh no!!! Where have you gone Kei Igawa???
I’d give Warren another shot. He’s the best minor league pitcher right now, so why not? Give Phelps tomorrow off so he can go a bit longer Monday if needed. Tell Warren he’s getting two starts no matter what to help him relax…. and if stinks, change your mind.
Then again, starting Joba and giving him 3 innings could be entertaining!
YT-
They need to cover at least 2 starts.
Don’t know if that’s the way to do it.
I’d give Warren a 2nd chance. He pratically pitched a no-no in his last outing.
Let’s see if he can redeem himself.
What the heck.
He can’t be any worse than he was last time.
No where to go but up.
You can never have enough Pitching.
No kidding.
I agree.
Warren gets the ball.
No reason to weaken the pen by tinkering with phelps,then losing him for 3 or 4 days.
It wouldn’t be a bad idea for the Yankees to bring up Warren for the Texas game on Monday, but also hold back Phelps for that game. Let Warren start and go through the Ranger lineup once…then before the Rangers have a chance to figure him out, bring in Phelps. Between Warren and Phelps, they might be able to baffle the Rangers for six innings. Then the bullpen can close it out.
triple i dont have much time to break it down right now but just looking at last season, while it’s true as you say that he posted a 3.35 era for the month of september in his last 2 starts of september he went 13 innings gave up 6 er (4.15 era).
in 2010 in his last 2 starts he pitched 13.2 innings and gave up 8 er (5.53 era) but as you say posted a 3.35 for the month.
What a bummer.
its not that cc’s last few starts were terrible, but they started a trend in both of those years that was followed by poor PS stats. last year he followed those last 2 starts (4.15 era) with 3 PS starts where he posted a 5.63 era.
when i have time ill break down earlier seasons to see if there is an indication of wearing down at the end of the regular season
Hey, and when the yankees tell you the mri showed nothing, u know its clean.
sorry i mixed them up, last season cc’s PS era was 6.75, in 2010 it was 5.63.
CC has to keep his weight down or issues like this will be the norm for him as he enters his mid 30s
Enough guessing.
The Yankees just signed Derek Lowe.
what? sidney ponson was too busy?
Mike Axisa [August 11 at 5:08pm CST]
The Yankees have signed Derek Lowe, reports Marc Carig of The Star-Ledger (on Twitter
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Then again, starting Joba and giving him 3 innings could be entertaining!
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They should do that next yr they need bodies
To me there’s a big difference between “soreness” and “stiffness”. Can we define which it is Chad?