Pregame notes: Cano sits again with sore neck
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Aug 16, 2012 
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Late lineup from the Yankees, who were waiting to find out whether Robinson Cano could play today. Just like yesterday, Cano’s going to miss a game because of a sore neck.
“It’s never easy to give Robbie a day,” Joe Girardi said. “But if you have to do it, you’re forced to do it. We’re able to win a game without him yesterday, but it’s hard not writing his name in that lineup.”
Before announcing a lineup, Girardi said he considered Cano’s neck problem to be a day-to-day situation. The Yankees believe Cano simply slept funny two nights ago, an his neck has been a little tight ever since.
“That changes everything (about the lineup) if he plays,” Girardi said before posting the lineup. “Would I be surprised if he didn’t play today? No, I wouldn’t, especially with the quick turnaround. Would I be surprised if he played, probably not. Robbie’s a tough kid. Those things are hard to predict.”
• Oddly enough, the Yankees also chose not to play Curtis Granderson today. The clubhouse is now closed, so I’m not sure whether there’s something going on with Granderson, or if he’s simply getting a day off because he’s struggling so badly.
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Andruw Jones LF
Casey McGehee 3B
Russell Martin DH
Jayson Nix 2B
Ichiro Suzuki CF
Chris Stewart C
• After a few rocky starts, Ivan Nova seemed to get back on track last time out. He was terrific against Toronto over the weekend, showing an improved slider and a dominant curveball. “I thought he had both offspeed pitches, and he was able to locate his fastball better,” Girardi said. “That’s key, especially against a lineup like this where you want to keep them off balance and you want to stay out of the middle of the plate.”
• One of the few players I did see in the clubhouse today was Brett Gardner, who was in street clothes but not wearing anything over his elbow.
• Derek Lowe also arrived a few minutes before the clubhouse was closed to media. Girardi said it’s “a possibility” Lowe will be available today.
• The Yankees do know that Eric Chavez won’t be in the lineup today. Against a left-handed starter, Chavez is going to sit despite his recent hot stretch.
Associated Press photo
cano might be shook up about melky…
games gonna be so intense we need 2 catchers
bruceb
Are we trying to give the Rangers this game? Couldn’t really pick a weaker lineup with Jones at four and Martin DHing. Call me greedy but I’d like to keep the momentum going.
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D people ver get tired of whining about the lineup?
Every time people start complaining about how weak the lineup is, IS Joe throwing a game etc they look ridiculous.
1. Joe isnt throwing games
2. Cano is hurt
3. Granderson is 1 for the century this month, so he really isnt helping the lineup.
Jerkface August 16th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Uh, was I trying to ‘solve’ something by legalizing it? No. I just think the players should be allowed to use whatever they want to attain their maximum peak physicality. There is no guarantee that steroids will turn Player X into a better player than Player Y, because baseball is MORE than just your strength and physical fitness. If you saw guys that couldn’t hack it in the majors up close you’d wonder how it was ever possible the way some of these guys are cut.
Baseball is a physically demanding sport, playing 162 games + playoffs, and if HGH/steroids/whatever helps keep players on the field or recover faster from injury or to make them more effective players then have at it I say.
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Why would the player’s association ever go for this? As I said, you’re essentially forcing the clean players to take steroids. And why would the owners go for this since they’re going to have to pay for inflated numbers?
It’s a dumb idea Jerkface.
Why would the player’s association ever go for this? As I said, you’re essentially forcing the clean players to take steroids. And why would the owners go for this since they’re going to have to pay for inflated numbers?
It’s a dumb idea Jerkface.
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Its not essentially forcing clean players to take steroids, that is a spurious argument. And there isn’t going to be extra cost for the owners. Infact they may recognize a cost savings as players are able to recovery from injury quicker and thus will be able to contribute. You pay for production above the norm. If the norm is raised due to the introduction of these chemicals than the price model will simply shift upwards.
50% of players are already cheating, go whole hog, MLB!
while on the subject, shouldnt cocaine be a performance enhancing drug too?
Why wouldn’t the players association be for helping their players take these supplements in a controlled and safe environment which they are already taking at the players associations advice in an uncontrolled and unsafe environment?
and if HGH/steroids/whatever helps keep players on the field or recover faster from injury or to make them more effective players then have at it I say.
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Great PSA for young kids to hear who are thinking of going into sports
Jerkface August 16th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Why would the player’s association ever go for this? As I said, you’re essentially forcing the clean players to take steroids. And why would the owners go for this since they’re going to have to pay for inflated numbers?
It’s a dumb idea Jerkface.
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Its not essentially forcing clean players to take steroids, that is a spurious argument. And there isn’t going to be extra cost for the owners. Infact they may recognize a cost savings as players are able to recovery from injury quicker and thus will be able to contribute. You pay for production above the norm. If the norm is raised due to the introduction of these chemicals than the price model will simply shift upwards.
50% of players are already cheating, go whole hog, MLB!
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ya lets just forget the side effects and allow ppl to use this!!
Banning a substance has never proven effective in reducing usage.
ya lets just forget the side effects and allow ppl to use this!!
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We already forget the side effects of lots of other things and improvements in technology and a controlled environment for administering chemicals tailored to a players physique will reduce negative side effects.
Would rather see on the stadium ushers DH than Martin
Hey if shooting Heroin makes you more creative and a better artist then by all means
Southern diagnosis on Cano: hes got a crick in his neck.
ac1
D people ver get tired of whining about the lineup?
No. That’s why blogs like this exist…so people can air their views and feelings.
(1) Joe Girardi is one of the shrewdest managers I know at choosing if and when to rest players…and it usually pays off. But it still pisses you off when you’ve bought tickets in advance hoping to see a full-strength lineup.
(2) Do you think Cano would be sitting today if we had lost the first three games?
(3) Granderson needs a rest but why pick a day when neither Cano nor Chavez are playing?
You have your opinion. I have mine. But please don’t show yourself up as a troll by insulting me just because you don’t agree with it.
Granderson needs a rest but why pick a day when neither Cano nor Chavez are playing?
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Classic Joe. He rests all his players on the same day instead of spreading it out
Do steroids harm long term health more than cigarettes which ARE legal?
I dont think we can or should say much about Girardi this year….he should be a manager of the year candidate ….
Do steroids harm long term health more than cigarettes which ARE legal?
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Steroids are legal as long as a doctor prescribes them
Steroids are legal as long as a doctor prescribes them
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Cigarettes are legal as long as Camel Joe prescribes you a pack to increase your Coolitude levels.
I dont think Steroids should be legal…..they cause long term health problems and it is a form of cheating……if they can develop a safe HGH level down the road where it makes everyone healhier, Younger, and better then by all means legalize it and everyone take it……
EVERY time Girardi says an injury is of minor concern, my spidey sences start tingling.
The standings carry more weight vs a losing streak, when deciding whether to rest players.
blake,
Girardi should be manager of the year. I agree.
Marijuana is legal too if a doctor prescribes it…..thats not what we are talking about.
Is it a coincidence that Cano is out again with a “sore neck” and his very good friend Melky was busted yesterday for PED’s???
Marijuana is legal too if a doctor prescribes it…..thats not what we are talking about.
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Only in certain states
The Yanks have had just as many injuries as Boston and more than most teams and are in 1st place…..Girardi has to get some credit for that right? Cashman does as well……
Cigarettes remain legal due to the tobacco industry contrubutions to politicos, and the Taxes that are tacked onto every pack sold.
Marijuana is legal too if a doctor prescribes it…..thats not what we are talking about.
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Then what was the point?
“Is it a coincidence that Cano is out again with a “sore neck” and his very good friend Melky was busted yesterday for PED’s???”
Yes
How are steroids any different from Greco-roman olympians pleading to their Godly pantheon for demi-human strength or going on adventures to Hades to acquire speed improving sandals and ending up with the body of a minotaur?
“Then what was the point?”
That there are worse things for you than steroids that you can buy at Wal Mart
Very difficult to make a guy Mgr Of The Year, when his teams payroll = roughly $200 Mill.
“How are steroids any different from Greco-roman olympians pleading to their Godly pantheon for demi-human strength or going on adventures to Hades to acquire speed improving sandals and ending up with the body of a minotaur?”
Because Mike Lupica wasnt around then to opine about how awful it was
tomingeorgia August 16th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
blake,
Girardi should be manager of the year. I agree.
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On last night ESPN telecast of the game, the 3 man booth brought up the AL manager of the year
2 votes went to Buck and the O’s
Warning Track Power August 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Is it a coincidence that Cano is out again with a “sore neck” and his very good friend Melky was busted yesterday for PED’s???
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I certainly hope Cano is not involved in any way to Melky’s problem.
That commercial with the statue falling apart, would seem to infer that steroid use IS Very harmful.
“Very difficult to make a guy Mgr Of The Year, when his teams payroll = roughly $200 Mill.
Thats a lazy excuse they use to give it to some small.market guy that over achieved …..meeting expectations in spite of tons of adversity is probably harder.
That there are worse things for you than steroids that you can buy at Wal Mart
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Nobody is saying there is not but look at how many people smoked in the 50′s when it was encouraged and where it is now now that it is demonized.
Perfect day for Grandy to get a day off.
Chavez can use one as well because he is NOT an everyday player.
This weekend the red sox are scheduled to throw 2 lefties and Beckett on Sunday night.
May be lazy, but that is how the cow eats the cabbage. Madden enjoys this advantage.
The 4 AL manager of the year candidates should be Buck, Ventura, Girardi, and Melvin
Meeting expectations should Not merit Mgr Of The Year. Your bar is Far to low.
“Nobody is saying there is not but look at how many people smoked in the 50?s when it was encouraged and where it is now now that it is demonized.”
Im not demonizing it…..people can do what theh want…but its medically proven that it can kill you and people still do it.
Meeting expectations should Not merit Mgr Of The Year. Your bar is Far to low.
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Then Madden should not be considered at all since he was picked by most people to win the East
no way we were going to see chavez play a day after night game.
“Meeting expectations should Not merit Mgr Of The Year. Your bar is Far to low.”
It should when youve dealt with all the Yanks have…..Id probanly give it to Buck or Melvin at this moment…..but Girardi should be the the discussion IMO
Still a ways to go, but right now, I would vote for Showalter. He’s kept ‘em in the hunt.
A class D lineup if there ever was one. It’s understandable. If the Rangers don’t win today then they’ve got some problems.
Im not demonizing it…..people can do what theh want…but its medically proven that it can kill you and people still do it.
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Not a smoker, so I cannot comment on the sweet, sweet feel of nicotine coursing through your system, but yea this. People will do what they wanna do, so let them do it as long as what they are doing is not directly impacting other people’s health. People take drugs because they like how it feels and some of the substances have addictive qualities. Banning it just removes a support structure.
If PEDs were legalized there will be athletes that won’t take it. Those that want to see how far they go without, those that don’t like how it feels, whatever. And even banned there will be players that want to take it, even if not for any performance gain but for how it makes them feel to be strong.
Legalize it! Where it = everything.
Triple Short of a Cycle August 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Marijuana is legal too if a doctor prescribes it…..thats not what we are talking about.
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Only in certain states
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Wrong on both counts, I think. It’s illegal in the US even with a prescription.. if it’s illegal based on federal law, it doesn’t really matter what the states do. The fed turns a blind eye, but it’s still very much illegal, with or without a script.
2nd hand smoke remains an issue. Smoking does not Solely harm the smoker.
….not that I’ve done much research or anything
If Melky knew he was guilty then why did he appeal? Why didnt he take his suspension months ago so he could get back and try to build his value back up
The Stewart/Martin combo is a little much.
Im pretty sure medical marijuana can be prescribed in certain states like California to help with pain patients etc…..but I could be wrong.
blake August 16th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Im pretty sure medical marijuana can be prescribed in certain states like California to help with pain patients etc…..but I could be wrong.
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It can be.. but that’s state law. Federal law could still punish anyone who has a certain amount even if they have a script. They just don’t bother because it’s weed and, really, who give a sh*t if you’re hitting the objective pipe… but that doesn’t actually make it legal. It makes it.. a gray area, I suppose. But if you’re just taking things by straight up policy its a misconception that weed is legal anywhere in the US, just like its a misconception that its legal in Jamaica.
Rangers line-up without Kinsler and Cruz and Yankee-killer Napoli still on DL.
Weaker line-up for both sides!
Shame,
Is it illegal in brownies or ice cream?
blake August 16th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If Melky knew he was guilty then why did he appeal? Why didnt he take his suspension months ago so he could get back and try to build his value back up
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I’m not sure Melky is the smartest guy…
Marijuana is still a scheduled substance federally but in places where it is ‘legalized’ carrying certain amounts have been made non-felonies and police have been advised not to bother about it. If you got caught with a trunk load of it you’d still be boned.
Second hand smoke is an issue, which is why you can’t smoke in most public places. Which is fine, the idea isn’t to let people do drugs wherever they want. Just that they should be able to do whatever they want say in their own home or spaces specifically designated for it!
Al in Houston August 16th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Rangers line-up without Kinsler and Cruz and Yankee-killer Napoli still on DL.
Weaker line-up for both sides!
Perhaps there was some plea bargaining before they were picked? Couldn’t we have persuaded Washington to rest Hamilton today?
It can be.. but that’s state law. Federal law could still punish anyone who has a certain amount even if they have a script. They just don’t bother because it’s weed and, really, who give a sh*t if you’re hitting the objective pipe… but that doesn’t actually make it legal. It makes it.. a gray area, I suppose. But if you’re just taking things by straight up policy its a misconception that weed is legal anywhere in the US, just like its a misconception that its legal in Jamaica.
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Simply put its unconstitutional.
The Fed has no business getting involved
Just a drive by to say GO YANKS!!! I’m out of bondage for a very short while because it’s lunch time and kids do have to eat.
Shame, keep ‘em laughing!
mick, keep ‘em honest!
GO IVAN!!!
GO YANKS!!!
Blake……You’re not mistaken at all……I’ve been a med card holder for years, although nothing subsitutes for pain better than a percocets or a norco vicodin….It’s just the way it is
Thinking about melky and his gesticulations that angered the Bravos. Maybe those were manifestations of the stuff he was taking. Just a thought.
Later y’all.
blake August 16th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If Melky knew he was guilty then why did he appeal? Why didnt he take his suspension months ago so he could get back and try to build his value back up
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Because there’s a difference between being not guilty and being innocent and Melky was probably hoping that by appealing he would be declared not guilty much the way Ryan Braun was.
Jerkface August 16th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Marijuana is still a scheduled substance federally but in places where it is ‘legalized’ carrying certain amounts have been made non-felonies and police have been advised not to bother about it. If you got caught with a trunk load of it you’d still be boned.
Second hand smoke is an issue, which is why you can’t smoke in most public places. Which is fine, the idea isn’t to let people do drugs wherever they want. Just that they should be able to do whatever they want say in their own home or spaces specifically designated for it!
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Who knew Jerkface was a libertarian.
“Because there’s a difference between being not guilty and being innocent and Melky was probably hoping that by appealing he would be declared not guilty much the way Ryan Braun was.”?
I dont think Braun did it……
I don’t think I qualify as a libertarian, but the war on drugs is a pretty big waste of money and time. You’d think they would have learned from prohibition. The only positive from situations like this is the spat of period piece crime movies.
Pat M,
I thought so….watch those Percocets….really strong and highly addictive stuff.
If Melky knew he was guilty then why did he appeal? Why didnt he take his suspension months ago so he could get back and try to build his value back up
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Well he only got caught at the all-star break, so it wouldn’t really have been ‘a month’ ago, but I’m sure the Giants/Melky would value contributions while he is still ‘on’ over saving 15-20 games for the end of the season when Melky will have not played for a month and a half.
=( I really hate when Joe makes lineups like this. I know he thinks he’s doing what’s best for the team, but with so many starters out (for various reasons) it really feels like he’s ok with not going for the throat in the last game of a series where the Yankees have a chance to sweep. That said, let’s hope Nova can pitch a good one and make the lineup meaningless!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9S1hXcpNjM
blake…..I’ve been taking those pills for almost 20 years and yeas they are serious …..I drink at least a gallon and a half a day just to keep my system clean….Lemon water as well
8 of the 9 hitters are right handed against the lefty Holland…..
Pat M,
What u drinking?
Triple Short of a Cycle August 16th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
It can be.. but that’s state law. Federal law could still punish anyone who has a certain amount even if they have a script. They just don’t bother because it’s weed and, really, who give a sh*t if you’re hitting the objective pipe… but that doesn’t actually make it legal. It makes it.. a gray area, I suppose. But if you’re just taking things by straight up policy its a misconception that weed is legal anywhere in the US, just like its a misconception that its legal in Jamaica.
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Simply put its unconstitutional.
The Fed has no business getting involved
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Not exactly… state rights don’t trump federal law. Sorta like when people get all uppity about those gays that can’t deal with only having their weddings be legal in certain states (we gave you civil unions in NY, now shut up!). Making marriages only legal in certain states is as good as them not being legal at all… Federal law is the most important law.
Hello everyone,
I am still in shock with Melky, I feel for him and wonder if it’s going to cost him some dough in his next contract.
blake – I think the rules for baking are the same as possession. Its tricky stuff man.. in NJ they made prescribed weed legal, but they won’t set up laws for the marijuana banks lol. Its really silly actually.
Pat M,
Sorry to cut in…20 years?…Are you in constant pain?…What happened if I may ask?
Did you guys see The Newsroom on HBO when Jeff Daniels takes too many pot cookies?
It’s true those little devils are potent! I get em when I visit my Dad in Seattle.
I could make a small fortune doing some cross country smuggling.
Medical schools are never going to implement curriculum that accepts prescription of steroids for athlete’s performance. There is extensive scientific peer-reviewed research proving the harmful effects of steroid use. So although you may want MLB to make it legal, the scientific community will never train doctors and health care professionals to prescribe steroids for athlete’s performance. Team doctors, having attended medical school, would be violating the hippocratic oath. Joe from Long Island would attest to this. It’s not ok because “everybody else is doing it”.
That being said, Melky Cabrera is still in line for a Carlos Quentin contract IMHO. 3 years, 27 million. I take that chance.
Bret The Hitman August 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Medical schools are never going to implement curriculum that accepts prescription of steroids for athlete’s performance. There is extensive scientific peer-reviewed research proving the harmful effects of steroid use. So although you may want MLB to make it legal, the scientific community will never train doctors and health care professionals to prescribe steroids for athlete’s performance. Team doctors, having attended medical school, would be violating the hippocratic oath. Joe from Long Island would attest to this. It’s not ok because “everybody else is doing it”.
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Yeah, allowing steroids in baseball and making weed/recreational drug legal are two very different things…. I think we should all pool our attention on recreational drugs!
It’s true those little devils are potent!
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Yes Sir.
Helping athletes take supplements safely is not a violation of the hippocratic oath. The oath doesn’t say anything about it. Nor is it a legally binding thing.
Steroid is not a supplement. Prescription of performance enhancers threatens the health of the patient and therefore violates the oath.
But good luck pushing your “take steroids to hit HR and get into the HOF” agenda on the AMA.
Prescription of performance enhancers threatens the health of the patient and therefore violates the oath.
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It does not violate the oath. It would only violate the oath if they were being prescribed it malignantly by the physician. Players ELECTING to take it and receiving the help of physicians to do it in a safe way would be upholding the oath! Doctors in paraguay who
Doctors helping people do things in a safer manner is what we should WANT out of them. People will do what they want.
Meant to say doctors in portugal, not paraguay, where drugs were decriminalized would not be breaking their oath by ensuring those that want to shoot up have clean, non-aids riddled needles.
Steroids are only consider “safe” when they’re therapy for some kind of medical condition. But that’s not what you’re talking about here. Your advocating team doctors prescribe steroids to all ballplayers to boost their performance. Good luck with the AMA.
Your advocating team doctors prescribe steroids to all ballplayers to boost their performance.
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No I’m not, I’m advocating it be legalized in baseball and doctors help those players who want to use do it in a safe manner with the safest supplements available.
And you might also want to wish the player’s liver’s good luck as well, not to mention their endocrine cells.
You’re advocating steroids be legalized in baseball and doctors help those players who want to use steroids.
There is no safe manner unless there are special circumstances such as a medical condition that requires steroid use.
Any supplement that has steroid-like side effects is considered unsafe by the medical community.
Maybe you should try underwriting for GNC.
But the AMA?
Ok, Jerkface.
J