Jeter slugs his way to a piece of history/morning paper
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Aug 18, 2012 
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Derek Jeter is now in the company of just one other player in major-league history when it comes those who have posted at least 3,000 hits, 1,200 RBI, 300 steals and 250 homers.
That would be Willie Mays.
Jeter took care of the 250 part when he hit a solo shot — homer No. 10 for the season — in the fifth inning off Franklin Morales Friday night in the Yankees’ 6-4 win over the Red Sox.
“I always hear all the time that I don’t hit home runs,” Jeter said. “In my mind, it’s a lot of them. So it’s something I’m happy with.”
The Captain said Nick Swisher was bragging recently about reaching No. 200, and that he told Swisher he had a ways to go to catch him.
“I think it’s a big number,” Jeter said. “To other people, maybe not.”
When it comes to the Yankees’ all-time list, Jeter is tied for ninth with Graig Nettles. This is the 16th time that Jeter has reached double figures in homers. He’s also riding a 13-game hitting streak and is batting .319.
“He’s an amazing player,” Joe Girardi said. “I mean, you think about what he’s done throughout his career. He’s 38 years old. He’s played 15 days in a row. There aren’t too many 38-year-old guys who play 15 days in a row. And he continues to be productive.”
Hope you take a look at my LoHud.com/Journal News articles today on the Yankees’ homer-happy night as well as on Mark Teixeira’s injured wrist and on the man who survived the mutiny (so far), Bobby Valentine. I’ll be back with today’s lineup this afternoon.
Blake,
When you look deeper into hughes stats, he’s not pitching that bad. He has the least amount of walks of all the starters. The HR’s are killing but he’s not walking tons of people. If he could get more ground ball outs his whip would be more like 1.0. His CU would help him tremendously; if he would use it more.
Jeter should be able to play until 45 like Winfield – imagine the #s!
Jmills-
You want ptching? How about Hughes for Bautista
YT – slip something in my tea and you’ve got a deal amigo.
When you watch Hughes pitch, don’t you wonder how he is getting major league hitters to strike out with the pitches he has and is using during the game?
The batters usually know or should know what’s coming-a 92-93mph fastball with some movement.
How about that Hughes, last night? Roughly 30% CU. 29/106. Bloody outstanding.
So it begs the question. What the hell took him so long?
And Rothschild was the one that instituted the CU throughout the Tampa system
FIP is too flipping new
http://www.fangraphs.com/libra.....ching/fip/
Let me watch the game on TV, see the strike zone the ump is allowing, the quality of the pitches, how they deal with RISP, etc and I’m happy
Bo-
What took him so long?
After reading some of Hughes past post game comments, it sounds like he is too stubborn. I didn’t see him pitch last night. Maybe he wasn’t shaking off Martin’s calling for the CU.
I’m glad Hughes threw his CU to righties as some of us had asked for. Right handed hitters have to have a third pitch to think about. Let’s see if this helps going forward.
Time to go.
Have a great day and enjoy the Yankees continued success
Good for Hughes containing the overall damage and mixing in the CU. It may be stubborness but it also may be comfort level. A pitcher has to be committed to a pitch, until Hughes is committed to throwing the CU at any count, in any situation, he will be fighting a losing battle against teams that can turn around 92-93 FB and mediocre CB.
NYY needs to make a decision on him this winter and if they commit to him they better be sure Hughes is just as committed to harnessing a consistent third pitch and as MTU advocates some kind of pitch to induce grounders and quick AB. Otherwise NYY will be tied up with a pitcher that cannot put batters away on most nights. Which is ok for a #3 starter but will they be paying #3 starter money to lock him up long-term?
If it were me I would package him in a deal this winter for an OF bat. As much as I like him he will start becoming expensive and I’m not sure he really helps Hal hit objective #1, which of course is 189.
Number 28 is objective #2.
Jeter is on pace to finish the year with 218 hits for 2012 and 3,306 hits in his career. He would only need 194 hits next year to finish 2013 with 3,400 hits. And if he matches 2012 next year or comes close to it, he’s far from done. He can negotiate a 3-year deal and put himself on the cusp of 4000 hits. I don’t know why fans think he can’t last 4 more years. Plenty of ballplayers play effectively at age 42. I’d say Jeter has a better chance of being an active player and a key contributor in four years than Alex Rodriguez. Jeter’s swing is very simple with few moving parts. He has uncanny hand-eye coordination and never needed to generate great bat speed to get his hits.
If it were me I would package him in a deal this winter for an OF bat.
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Justin Upton come on down
Towers would take Hughes for Chris Young but never Justin Upton IMHO.
Maybe we’re thinking too big with Upton. Is there anyone that fits into the Granderson/Swisher category.
After reading some of Hughes past post game comments, it sounds like he is too stubborn. I didn’t see him pitch last night. Maybe he wasn’t shaking off Martin’s calling for the CU.
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In that ill fated Texas game where he got injured, he struck out Teix on three CUs. As he himself said, he isn’t the same pitcher, he was then. But it’s not something that just recently popped up
But still, someone must have read him the riot act before this start, explained the facts of life, whatever. I’m just ecstatice that it’s here. This is momentous going forward. His CB speed has improved and now the CU. Just a great development. The CU is still just average, with just four SOs but they’re not fouling off a multitude of pitches.
Sometimes young pitchers fall in love w. one particular pitch.
I can remember when Joba fell in love w. his slider.
It happens but it should be discouraged IMO.
I belive it to be detrimental to the big picture.
Just my 2 cents.
Another great example would be Verlander.
He always a had a great arsenal but he tended to rely on his heater.
Nowadays he uses all of his stuff and he has reached another level.
That folks is one of the main differences between a thrower and a Pitcher.
I want Pitchers.
King Felix is evolving too as his velo drops.
I think Hughes will evolve as a pitcher vs. just a thrower.
The challenge for NYY to figure out fairly soon is do they think his maturation occur as a Yankee and if so how much is that worth?
Or are they better off cutting ties on moving onto their next pitching victim to non-develop?
21-
I think you touched on a key point in regards to Hughes.
Felix is a really good pitcher but he has dodged the big stage and he repeatedly seems to miss pitching in BOS. I also don’t like the guy for hitting 3 yankees. Just don’t like him, I know its irrational.
Until he pitches consistently under pressure I’m not ready to call this guy great, even though he makes a lot of batters look foolish.
Verlander, what can you say, flat out nasty. If he has his CB or CU working in tandem with his heat it is game over.
Or are they better off cutting ties on moving onto their next pitching victim to non-develop
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Yea who is next in line lol
The Yankees are on the cusp in many ways. With the CC development ie nagging injuries, Kuroda/Pettite age factor, the Super Bs crash and so on they can’t afford to make a mistake with Hughes.
Everything is kick ass right now especially with the Scrap Heap boys playing out of their minds. Going forward Baltimore, Texas, Toronto and even KC are a hell of a challenge – stacked minors, that are maybe two years away.
Many elements to Pitching IMO but among them are :
Pitch variety
Location
Velocity variation
Deception
Movement
Grit
Watch the great ones and they all have some combination of those elements.
Usually excelling at a few of them.
Pure power is sexy but great location w. movement makes up for a lot.
The difference between say a Koufax and a Maddux.
Both great. Just totally different styles.
I like ‘em both.
And then you get guys like Halladay who combine them both.
Now that is scary.
The Yankees are on the cusp in many ways. With the CC development ie nagging injuries, Kuroda/Pettite age factor, the Super Bs crash and so on they can’t afford to make a mistake with Hughes….
Bo absolutely, and I would add Nova and Phelps to that mix of not making mistakes with.
NYY needs sound judgement on these pitchers and sober expectations on Pineda to know what they have for next year and what gaps they need to fill.
Getting to 189 requires an inexpensive Pitching starting in 2014.
It is a great acheivement for Jeter and I hope he continues to excel.
In the same context, imagin, what Alex is acheiving.
Barring injuries, by the end of next year, Alex will have 3000+ hits, 650+ home runs, 2000+ RBIs and 300+ SB. Unbeleivable and no one is close in the history (Aron has only 240 SBs).
Jeter’s having an amazing season. Of course it’s when Trout lit the league on fire and will most likely take the MVP/ROY honors, but what Jeter doing right now is remarkable.
He’s clean, he’s hitting for average, showing double digit power now and making almost all the plays he can make.
I thought, like a lot of people, that he was done a few seasons ago and he’s proved everyone wrong.
I still believe Minka Kelly was a succubus.
AFL announcement :
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Via Joel Sherman, the Yankees are planning to send catcher Austin Romine and second baseman David Adams to the Arizona Fall League after the season. Both players have missed time with injuries not just this year, but last year as well. Romine (back) only has 70 plate appearances this season while Adams (ankle, neck) has 328 plate appearances. He’s been working out at third base lately and could get more time there in the desert.
The rosters have not been officially announced as of yet but that could happen as soon as next week. Outfielder Slade Heathcott would make sense for an AzFL trip as well after missing the first half of the season due to shoulder surgery, though he would count as their one Single-A player. Neither lefty Manny Banuelos or righty Jose Campos will be eligible because they were not on an active roster within 45 days of the end of the season. The rules are weird, I know. Each teams sends seven players, usually three position players and four pitchers.”
Phelps needs to go to the Dominican this Winter.
My greatest fear is the Boston model and how the Yankees can avoid that. They’re awfully creaky especially with Teix and Granderson underperforming – The back end is driving the bus, especially on this latest run.
Adams’ development at 3B is crucial, but the Yankees need a top end OF, someone that’s Major League ready or one year away. I don’t think Upton is the answer.
Bo-
Just curious.
Why don’t you think JU is the answer ?
NYY needs sound judgement on these pitchers and sober expectations on Pineda to know what they have for next year and what gaps they need to fill.
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Amen. And for God’s sake sign Hughes to a mutually advantageous contract.
Why don’t you think JU is the answer ?
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Too many question marks. Towers is top five in GMs if he’s dumping, there’s a reason. Mostly the Yankees need a kid to replace the 10/15 mil in the OF due to that 189 cutoff point.
Bo-
I believe Towers was instructed by Mgmt to trade JU.
Not quite sure that means he wants to move him.
I believe JU’s value for LT purposes is 8 Mil.
Thanks for the response.
Not bad for a Canuck.
http://stevewigdor.blogspot.com/
My take on the game
Not bad for a Canuck.
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I really like the Upton defense and have faith in the Yankee Major League scouting dept, so we’ll see.
Us Canuckens have an awful lot of time to contemplate during that nine month snowbank season.
Hughes does not have good enough stuff to be anything but a pitcher. Every team we play has a few guys in the pen throwing 95+ as an example (I know not starters, but yesterday the Red Sox lefty hit 97. Hughes was 91-92 most of the night. He must be a pitcher and field his position better.
As for Jeter, let’s not get crazy, his defense is mediocre and his OPS is .788. I am extremely happy with the way he has played this year and would be thrilled with it moving forward, but saying he has been amazing or great is over stating what he is doing
Bo-
You are from Edmonton, right ?
I wasn’t sure if I had used the term “Canuck” properly.
We get a lot of Canuckan snowbirds down here.
And yes, we’ll see what transpires. Should be an interesting Hot stove season this year.
By the way, I very much doubt they will extend Hughes.
It’s a rarity in Yankeeland. maybe he’ll be the exception.
Seems to make sense in this budget environment.
You are from Edmonton, right ?
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Based out of Edmonton. I do a lot of contract work up north, Expediter/Flight Services. I can still run a mean Forklift, loading aircraft, if necessary. I tell the kids,”It’s all about momentum and economy of motion”.
jnorris427
Slade Heathcott is going to the Arizona Fall League. #Yankees
jnorris427
I’m also told that the #Yankees are considering sending Zach Nuding, Tom Kahnle, Matt Tracy, Mark Montgomery, B. Pinder and P. Claiborne.
jnorris427
And that Dan Burawa will go if he’s healthy. So there’s a list of names for y’all to chew on.
I wasn’t sure if I had used the term “Canuck” properly.
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You were right, I use Canuckens and Canuckles in deprecating fashion.
Bo-
I’m always joking around w. Comet who is also a Canadian.
He’s from Ontario and Winters in the Desert SW.
He’s one of the many Snowbirds I mentioned.
Gotta go, later.
Bo-
I have been remiss in not having visited or hiked in the Canadian rockies. Rugged and beautiful.
Places like Jasper and Banff have escaped my grasp so far.
I have a hiking friend who lives in Canmore and have spent some time in Northern Montana.
I love that kind of country. It’s a masterpiece.
MTU,
Not sure what sort of hiking you most enjoy, but have you ever looked into hoofing the Chilkoot Trail up in Alaska/Yukon/BC? Some pretty spectacular views!
Jeter is on pace to finish 2013 at age 39, with 3,500 hits, which would mean that he has a legitimate shot at getting to 4,000 hits by age 42 if he can stay healthy.
And a 200-hit, .780 OPS season is nothing to look down upon, Ichiro is going to the HoF on the strength of putting together quite a few of those.
muddyduck-
I like all kinds of hiking but especially our Utah canyons.
I’d love to see that someday.
Thanks for the tip.