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“I guess the show goes on”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 28, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

What do you say after a night like last night? What do you say when the division lead is getting tighter, key games are on the schedule and another marquee player is hurt?

Remember when Dave Robertson tripped carrying boxes during spring training? Was that supposed to be some sort of warning shot?

The Yankees have since seen Joba Chamberlain all but destroy his ankle on a trampoline, Michael Pineda blow out his shoulder before throwing a meaningful pitch, Brett Gardner suffer multiple setbacks from an injury that was supposed to keep him out only a few days, Mariano Rivera tear his ACL shagging fly balls, Andy Pettitte break his ankle on a comebacker, Alex Rodriguez break his hand on a changeup and now Teixeira strain his calf on a foul groundball.

“You know how many teams have had injuries?” Derek Jeter said. “Look at Boston. They’ve had injuries. Toronto’s had injuries. It seems like everyone in our division (had had injuries). That’s part of the game. That’s one thing people don’t take into consideration when we start seasons, when they start to figure out who’s going to win. Injuries are a part of it, so we have to play through it.”

The Yankee are still in first place. Jeter’s old saying — win your games and you don’t have to worry, or some variation of that — still holds true. Someone else will be at first base tonight. Someone else will be batting cleanup. And the Yankees will have another game to play.

“We’re going to have to step it up, man,” Nick Swisher said. “We’ve been dealing with stuff like this all year. As bad as it is to say, I guess the show goes on, you know?”

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202 Responses to ““I guess the show goes on””

  1. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    “You know how many teams have had injuries?” Derek Jeter said. “Look at Boston. They’ve had injuries. Toronto’s had injuries. It seems like everyone in our division (had had injuries). That’s part of the game. That’s one thing people don’t take into consideration when we start seasons, when they start to figure out who’s going to win. Injuries are a part of it, so we have to play through it.”

    The difference is that the Yanks are in 1st place and those other two clubs are fighting for the cellar and whining about injuries.

  2. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    the great Casey Kelly shut down the Braves last night…..so now Boston traded him and Rizzo for a player they don’t even have anymore….

  3. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
    In the wide open AL Cy Young race, the frontrunners from here look to be: 1. Felix Hernandez. 2. Verlander. 3. Weaver. As of today.

    Felix is unreal

  4. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    What an awful night. I can’t get on Soriano, he’s been great for the team all year. But the loss in general coupled with the Tex injury just made it an awful night.

    My guess on the lineup tonight:

    Ichiro – RF
    Jeter – SS
    Swisher – 1b
    Cano – 2b
    Jones – LF
    Granderson – CF
    Pearce – DH
    Martin – C
    McGehee – 3b

  5. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    “I love the Morneau idea. Trouble is, he comes with a price tag the Yankees wouldn’t get near.”

    his contract is up after 2013 so they’d be no 2014 salary cap concerns….but he is owed 15 million for next year so you’d either have to get the Twins to kick in some money, feel ok about making him your DH next year…..or feel like you could trade him this winter.

    The other problem is that the Twins would probably want a decent prospect for him as well because well they are the Twins and they don’t seem to like to trade anybody…..

    If they could get him for a marginal prospect then I’d consider it…..cause he would be a nice filler for Tex while we are playing this stretch of game and he’d be a big upgrade over Ibanez as a platoon DH (he’d actually be the 2nd best hitter on the team vs RHP). ….doesn’t fix the problem vs lefties but does make the team and lineup nasty vs RHP when everyone gets back.

    It’s a long shot…..but something to consider if he’s available.

  6. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    According to Joel Sherman, before doing the Boston deal the Dodgers reached out to the Yankees for CC and Tex.

  7. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 9:19 am

    bad news on andy. it looks like the window for him to get back is just about closed now.

  8. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:19 am

    then talk Theo in to paying most of Soriano’s contract and you have October lineups of

    vs RHP

    Jeter
    Swisher
    Cano
    Arod
    Morneu
    Tex
    Granderson
    Martin
    Ichiro

    vs LHP

    Jeter
    Swisher
    Tex
    Arod
    Cano
    Soriano
    Granderson
    Martin
    Ichiro

    never happen…..but it’s what the Dodgers would do!

  9. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    “According to Joel Sherman, before doing the Boston deal the Dodgers reached out to the Yankees for CC and Tex.”

    yea…the difference though is that the Yankees are in 1st place and both guys have full no trades.

  10. fantasygame101 August 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Andruw jones probably will hit cleanup for this 2 days. We need another performance like he did in that boston series. If andruw does nothing, it is time to take a look at mesa.

  11. JM August 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    If they had inquired about ARod, the Yanks might have been interested

  12. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    “According to Joel Sherman, before doing the Boston deal the Dodgers reached out to the Yankees for CC and Tex.”

    yea…the difference though is that the Yankees are in 1st place and both guys have full no trades.
    ———————–

    Right – also CC and Tex are productive players who are good in the clubhouse so can’t think the Yankees would be interested in moving them.

  13. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    “Right – also CC and Tex are productive players who are good in the clubhouse so can’t think the Yankees would be interested in moving them.”

    I’m not sure they wouldn’t consider moving Tex off their books….but they want to win now and there is nobody to replace him with…..so probably not.

  14. Shame Spencer August 28th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    I’m not saying they should have done it, but people were shouting me down about how Tex’s contract wasn’t trade-able. I’m of the thought that every contract is trade-able.

  15. Benny Blanco August 28th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Felix is a monster. Its a shame he wants to stay in SEA. He’s not just a strikeout pitcher. He gets lots of groundballs which enables him to keep his pitch count low and go deep into games.

  16. mick August 28th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    what the news on andy?

  17. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    he was looking to start throwing off a mound but they decided he’s back on flat ground and maybe, hopefully, sometime soon, blah, blah, blah.

  18. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Normally the need wouldn’t be so great as the Yanks would have a fairly secure cushion in the WC and in the past it really didn’t matter if you won the division so long as you got in as the WC…..now that’s totally changed….you have to win your division….

    which is why I’m not sure the Yanks can just rest on their laurels if a waiver deal to improve the club can be made…..

  19. pat August 28th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    Yankees
    Derek Jeter’s 9th-inning blast was his 2nd career HR in the 9th or later that tied the game or gave the #Yankees the lead.

    This surprised me. I would have guessed he had more than 1 going into last night.

  20. mick August 28th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    i never heard that he was going on the mound, just off flat ground.

  21. mick August 28th, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Nothing in baseball frustrates me more than a mental error:

    Nix not looking back at the winning run on 3rd was inexusable.

    The runner had to be far enough off the bag to be able to score, and he was, meaning Nix would have had him if he looked.

  22. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    andy said it last week that he was hoping to be cleared to get back on a mound the day the yankees returned from the road. he even did a kind-of flat ground bullpen anticipating getting back on the mound.
    the aaa championship game 5 (best of 5) is september 15th, so it looks like he’s not going to have any shot at a rehab game now. and one month from getting onto a mound to being ready to start a PS game is really unlikely.

  23. mick August 28th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    The runner going to 1st was not a priority, you can fake that throw and get the runner at 3rd.
    Nix had to be thinking.
    Girardi calls him a “ballplayer.”
    That’s what a ballplayer would do.

  24. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    “Nix not looking back at the winning run on 3rd was inexusable.

    The runner had to be far enough off the bag to be able to score, and he was, meaning Nix would have had him if he looked.”

    no actually if you watch the replay he broke back towards 3B until Nix committted to throw to first and then broke home…..Nix didn’t have much choice there unless he just gave up the out a 1B on a slow roller like that…..aggressive base running play that paid off and I think Nix made the right play to be honest……the only other thing he could have done was just eat it and then you have 1st and 3rd with 1 out…..being at home I think it was the right play to get the out

  25. mick August 28th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    the aaa championship game 5 (best of 5) is september 15th, so it looks like he’s not going to have any shot at a rehab game now. and one month from getting onto a mound to being ready to start a PS game is really unlikely.
    ========================
    This is why Phelps is a priority.

  26. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    if chavez didnt bobble getting the ball out and then throw high, he would have gotten the runner at the plate.

  27. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    “The runner going to 1st was not a priority, you can fake that throw and get the runner at 3rd.”

    watch the replay….he went back to 3B initially….you fake the throw there and a good chance you end up 1st and 3rd with nobody out and a chance for a big inning. It wasn’t a routine grounder…….great baserunning.

  28. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Ys Guy-

    I’m not optimistic about Pettitte returning either, never was. But it was only Andy who was saying he hoped he’d be cleared for pitching off a mound, I don’t think that was ever an official statement. Andy is always overly optimistic or impatient, whichever term you prefer. ;)

    But, in the story I read this morning (see link on the side bar), it says that Andy has indicated that as long as he can get off a pitching mound by September 1st, he think’s he’ll be available.

    Hey, there’s no harm in hoping. But in the meantime, I sure hope Phelps can keep up the good work, and then eliminate those HR pitches.

  29. longtimefan August 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Yanks are not the only team to experience injuries, no one has had more than the Jays and they seemed to find a way to win last night, good teams find a way to win, age and long season is starting to show, lets hope they can keep it together and win the division. Another very good job by Phelps, hope Phil does as well tonight.

  30. mick August 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Blake-
    Nix never looked. He has to look.
    He didn’t know what the runner was doing.
    That is the mistake.
    So what if it’s 1st and 3rd….play for the DP.
    Wrong play .

  31. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    “if chavez didnt bobble getting the ball out and then throw high, he would have gotten the runner at the plate.”

    correct….they may have…..at home and with Darren Oliver on the mound I take the out there and make the runner chance it to score…..the runner took the risk….it paid off and the Yanks couldn’t score a run off Darren Oliver so they lost……

    game wasn’t on Nix at all IMO…..more on Lowe/Chavez for botching the pick off…..on Soriano for blowing the save…..and on the offense

  32. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    “Blake-
    Nix never looked. He has to look.”

    dude you look him back on that and he’s safe at 1st….it wasn’t a ground ball it was a slow roller…..

  33. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    longtime fan -

    Seriously? the Jays are in last place. Every team runs into a win every now and then. There are no teams, no matter how bad or crippled who are 0-162.

  34. Hassey August 28th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    the horses are still pulling, but wheels are falling off the cart and the axles are sparking

  35. mick August 28th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    blake i dont care about the runner at 1st , he’s meaningless
    you look him back and he’s dead.

  36. mick August 28th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    for all nix knew the guy was tearing down the line
    he never checked.
    how that can be disputed is beyond me.

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    When the other deals — Fox/TBS/NBC/whoever — come in, even more money because playoffs are involved.

  38. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    of course nothing is official, but certainly losing the chance to at least pitch one minor league rehab is a setback and that’s why andy was so focused on getting back on a mound this week. now he’ll have one month of bullpens and sim games and then maybe have a shot at one start in the RS on a pitch restriction IF the yankees can afford to let him do that considering the pennant race. it doesn’t look good thats for sure.

    its hard to imagine then starting andy in a playoff game having maybe only had one start at 60 or 70 pitches to prepare.

    right now i’d say hughes is in the PS rotation and phelps may be #4.

  39. blake August 28th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    mick,

    again on that play you either have to get the out at first or just eat the ball and give up the out…..you don’t have time to look the guy at 3rd back and then go to first…..you chose to get the out playing at home and the runner took the risk and scored…..if you eat that ball then you still have 1st and 3rd with one out and they probably score anyway….may score more than 1….so I didn’t have a problem with it…..good baserunning by the Jays….bad baseball before and after that play by the Yankees.

  40. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    and again….on the replay the runner iniitally broke back to 3B….he didn’t go on contact…..so if Nix “looks him back” there then everybody is safe

  41. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    chavez blew the play.

  42. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    you don’t have time to look the guy at 3rd back and then go to first
    =============================
    the object was not to look him back…the runner at 1st meant nothing….again Nix didn’t know where the runner was, he could have been 1/4 of the way home, which he was close to being…then he was just giving up the run to get a meaningless out at 1st.

  43. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    .bad baseball before and after that play by the Yankees.
    ======================
    and during.

  44. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    first off, there was no ‘runner at first’ there was a batter trying to get to first. secondly, there was a runner at third and one out, they needed an out. they had a chance to get one and nix made a good play. toronto took a chance sending the runner from third and chavez could have made the play, it would have been close, but a clean transfer and good throw would have gotten him. letting the hitter reach on a ball that you can get an out on is just setting them up for a bigger inning.

  45. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    on the replay the runner iniitally broke back to 3B
    ======================
    my point is that Nix didn’t know what the runner had done.
    could have been on the bag
    could have been enough down the line that Nix couldn’t see him.
    you have to make that runner the priority.
    the runner at 1st meant nothing, the runner at 3rd was the ballgame.
    wrong play.

  46. bruceb August 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Every team runs into a win every now and then.

    Yes, but it doesn’t have to come against the Yankees. Dropping one in Cleveland was bad enough but losing last night was the absolute pits. One of the Yanks’ great strengths over the years has been pounding the AL’s bottom feeders. Now we get beaten by a team on a nine-game losing streak and two nights later, we’re mugged by team on a seven-game losing streak.

    This team has had very few blowout wins, meaning the bullpen is taxed almost every night. You can blame some of it on injuries, but not all of it. If the Yanks are to win the pennant, Jeter, Swisher and Cano will have to carry them the rest of the way. And we can’t afford too many more slip-ups along the way either from our two “banker bets” in the pen, DRob and Soriano.

  47. Hassey August 28th, 2012 at 10:08 am

    definitely A-Rod’s fault

  48. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    arod would not have lost track of the runner at 3rd, neither would chavez.

  49. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    where was jones on the backup of the throw to 1st?
    the throw wasn’t that bad , Tex would have had it.
    another reason why he is underestimated.

  50. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    if the yankees win all their series the rest of the way, they will win comfortably. they just beat chicago, and they can still beat toronto.

    also tampa has their hands full with texas and we get the orioles face to face next. everything is in their own hands right now. i am confident they will take care of buisness.

  51. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    Bruceb -

    I don’t know – I always see those teams that are in the midst of a long losing streak as very, very dangerous teams to face. Figure they’re going to win.

    The important thing for the Yankees is to win the next two. If they don’t…well, it ain’t gonna be too happy around here or anywhere else, is it?

  52. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    i checked YES and MLB websites and neither has the errant pickoff throw highlight available.

  53. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:18 am

    “the object was not to look him back…the runner at 1st meant nothing…”

    it meant an out….they took the out being at home and gambled that the runner wouldn’t go. I think Arod or Chavez would have done the same thing.

  54. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    VN-

    Why shouldn’t they ?

    Hughes tonight. CC tomorrow.

    The Cavalry arrives at the Fort Sat. just in time to hold off a marauding tribe known as Baltimore.

    ;)

  55. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Mick,

    you are missing the point that you can’t look the runner back on that play unless you just decide to eat it and give up the out at 1st.

    Y’s,
    I think Tex probably catches the pick out attempt from Lowe….it was a bad throw in to the runner a bit but it looked catchable to me on the replays……

  56. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Blake-

    Swish should be playing 1st while Tex is out.

    He is a competent 1b.

    Use Ichiro/Pearce to fill in RF.

  57. JM August 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Bruceb -

    I don’t know – I always see those teams that are in the midst of a long losing streak as very, very dangerous teams to face. Figure they’re going to win.

    The important thing for the Yankees is to win the next two. If they don’t…well, it ain’t gonna be too happy around here or anywhere else, is it?

    Villa,

    I feel the same way as you and don’t usually like facing teams with really long losing streaks. Just figure they’re due. I also figured Sori was due to blow a save; he scrambles and often it’s not pretty but he’s been getting the job done all year. I just had a bad feeling about last night after Rajai Davis got on. He had him 0-2 and threw a bad pitch….He was due to blow one but the timing was not optimal. LOL.

    I agree with all who have said they’ve gotta win the next two. Hughes has to bring it

  58. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    yeah the pickoff was a tough play, he probably should have had it but he is a part timer at 1b at best. i was really interested in checking out jones’s positioning and his pursuit of the ball.

  59. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    MTU -

    Baltimore is ticking me off!!!! LOL

  60. bruceb August 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Villa Nova-Ya

    I hate playing them too; the law of averages and all that. But the offense had ample chance to swing the game our way on Saturday and we all know what happened last night.

    I think my frustration is heightened by the fact the Yanks haven’t won any of these type of games this season, only lost them. 0-45 when trailing in the eighth inning, I believe.

  61. jacksquat August 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Chip August 28th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    My guess on the lineup tonight:

    Ichiro – RF
    Jeter – SS
    Swisher – 1b
    Cano – 2b
    Jones – LF
    Granderson – CF
    Pearce – DH
    Martin – C
    McGehee – 3b

    Girardi seems to not like playing Ichiro vs lhp. So my guess is:

    Jeter – SS
    Swisher – 1B
    Cano – 2B
    Jones – RF
    Granderson – CF
    Martin – C
    Nix – 3B
    Pearce – LF
    McGehee – DH

    Maybe not that exact order, but something close to that.

  62. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    VN-

    They were supposed to fade long ago.

    :(

  63. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    MTU,

    I agree…Swish isnt bad at 1B…Chavy just doesnt have much experience there. Id check the wire to see if a 1B or corner outfielder is available thats an upgrade too

  64. bruceb August 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Sori diced with death in Cleveland; last night, he was put to the sword. The dangerous Rasmus should never have been allowed to reach the plate. What happened after that is almost irrelevant.

  65. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    JM -

    Agree about the bad feeling about Soriano last night. Especially after Al Leiter and Michael Kay had just said he’s been “almost perfect!” Kiss of death!!!!

    Also, didn’t they also spout some statistic about Rasmus, saying that the Jays had lost all 20 games he’d played or something to that effect? Again, Kiss of Death!!!

  66. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Baltimore facing Sale tonight…..chance to pick that game we lost yesterday back up against them.

  67. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    All night I was afraid of Encarnacion coming up in a big spot. They handled him pretty well!

  68. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    you are missing the point that you can’t look the runner back on that play unless you just decide to eat it and give up the out at 1st.
    ==============
    blake-
    not at all. i disagree, the runner at 1st meant nothing, the game was on the line.
    have said it over and over.
    you miss my point.

  69. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    blake -

    But Sale is due for a clunker isn’t he???? LOL

  70. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    baltimore has really done nothing but nobody has been able to separate from them. on may 19th they set their high-water mark at 13 games over .500. they’ve been below that all the way until they won last night and got back to 13 over.

    so they’ve played .500 ball for 13 weeks now.

  71. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Blake-

    Pearce has good #’s against lefties. No idea about his D at the corners.

    There isn’t going to be any further upgrade.

    Look for next upgrades in the OS.

    ;)

  72. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Want a bright spot ?

    His name is David Phelps.

    :)

  73. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    I can see Pearce batting cleanup tonight and playing 1st.
    Girardi and Torre like to tinker with their new toys.
    Ichiro could sit w/ Jones in LF.

  74. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    I will say this – the runner at 1st did mean something. The difference between being one run behind and possibly being more than one run behind in extra innings is a big deal.

    Yankees can and have hit solo HRs. Example – Jeter tying the game in the bottom of the 9th. But to put together a rally to score more than one run just to tie???? Ugh.

  75. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Guy on the radio is trying to say that the Alex and Andy injuries are signs of age taking their toll on the team. Can someone explain to me how breaking bones from pitched or batted balls are the result of age? I’m pretty sure if you hit Bryce Harper like Alex was hit his hand would’ve broken too.

  76. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Ys Guy -

    But they don’t go away……. ;)

    I guess you could say, the Yankees are hanging on, too.

  77. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Phelps has just been outstanding.

    A guy who heard the call and really stepped up.

    There is a lot to like there.

    I think the rest is gonna Nova some good and he’ll bounce back strong.

    Besides he doesn’t want to loose his job to David.

    Nova responds well to a challenge.

  78. Shame Spencer August 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    I’m kinda with mick on this one.. I would’ve rather taken the chance on getting the double play than letting the lead slip, but I understand both points.

  79. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    A lotta you guys bantering about Nix, but the problem on That play, and going forward without TEX, is Chavez at 1B. I thought Chavez was Extremely slow throwing home, and he shoulda at least got leather on the errant Lowe pickoff attempt. Why oh why Lowe was even throwing over there is beyond me in the 1st place, BUT, Chavez simply is a woeful 1B and the thought of him over there for a couple weeks issa disaster waiting to happen game-after-game.
    Soriano frequently gets away with his “high wire act”, but the fact is he’s simply NOT the Closer we saw when he was with Tampa. Not even close.
    Another bone head move by Girardi when he allowed TEX to run the bases, after pulling up lame following the foul ball. I can see letting TEX complete the AB, but once he drew the walk, Girardi shoulda pulled him outta the game.

  80. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Chip -

    Yup. I agree with you. Especially Andy’s injury was particularly freak.

  81. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Yesterday is gone.

    Today is here.

    Tomorrow awaits.

    There you have it !

    ;)

  82. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    MTU -

    Sounds like an embroidery sampler! LOL

  83. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    The division, pennant, and WS beckon.

    :)

  84. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Girardi is an guy who is overly cautious. If Tex was even a bit hesitant about staying in the game at the time Girardi asked, he’d have been out.

  85. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    I will say this – the runner at 1st did mean something. The difference between being one run behind and possibly being more than one run behind in extra innings is a big deal.
    ===============================
    You are thinking negatively. Who knows what will happen after that play?
    You do know there is the winning run on 3rd and you have to deal with that.

  86. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    VN-

    All you have is what is here now and what is coming.

    The past is already gone.

    Spilt milk, water under the bridge, afterthought.

    I like looking forward. But hey, that’s just me.

    ;)

  87. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    MTU -

    Love your outlook. :)

    I don’t like to get too far forward, though. One day at a time. (Hey, good name for a TV Show!)

  88. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Girardi reacts more than he manages.
    He relies on his coaches for decisions and is not as decisive as Leyland or LaRussa.
    When he bounces out of the dugout is when I worry, like he has made up his mind and that is it.
    Should have let Phelps finish that inning.

  89. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    VN-

    Thanks. I’ve always been that way.

    Maybe that’s why my life is a blur.

    I try not to look back too much. Don’t like livin’ in the past.

    :)

  90. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    What player is going to take himself out of a game?

  91. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    the yankees are in first place and the orioles and rays are not.

    the yankees have won more games than anyone in the league except texas.

    life if good, how would you feel if you were a fan of the angels…or the red socks?

    pennant races are fun!

    THIS is baseball!

  92. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:45 am

    Mick-

    I was surprised when Girardi pulled Phelps.

    He was under 90 pitches and he did not look gassed.

    Nothing immediately prior indicated he wasn’t handling the situation.

  93. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    MTU-
    It made no sense, like a lot of things he does.
    The pressure might be getting to him.

  94. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Agree. It’s a Mgr’s decision whether to pull a possibly injured player out of a game. Pettitte and the broken leg are a prime example. These guys wanta play, and a Mgr has gotta make the decision on his OWN.

  95. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    “not at all. i disagree, the runner at 1st meant nothing, the game was on the line.”

    then your point should be that Nix should have just ate the ball and not thrown to first at all….I disagree when you’re at home….I like getting the out and making the Jays take a risk to try and score. That play didn’t lose the game….a lot of other stuff did

  96. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Y’s-

    If I were a Phillies or Sux fan I’d be feelin’ like I didn’t have Vitamin D for a year.

    If I were a Angels fan/Owner I’d be pissed that I spent all that dough and my team is underachieving.

    If I were a Marlins fan I’d just shoot myself.

    Now if I were a Nats fan I’d be real happy.

    :)

  97. Mike Ri August 28th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Girardi didn’t blow the game . . Soriano did ! ..

  98. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    “Guy on the radio is trying to say that the Alex and Andy injuries are signs of age taking their toll on the team. Can someone explain to me how breaking bones from pitched or batted balls are the result of age? I’m pretty sure if you hit Bryce Harper like Alex was hit his hand would’ve broken too.”

    example of people discussing a narrative….

  99. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Girardi has Fried that Pen the entire season, and the Yanks are Now paying the price.

  100. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    then your point should be that Nix should have just ate the ball and not thrown to first at all….I disagree when you’re at home…
    ========================
    my point is that eating the ball would have been his 2nd option, if there was no play at 3rd.

    it’s unheard of to ignore what the winning run is doing. you don’t leave that to chance.
    not something a thinking player would do.

  101. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Dissecting losses reminds me of high school biology.

    Did anyone really get much out of dissecting those poor frogs ?

    Same with hindsight dissection of games.

    Over and done with. Nothin’ you can do but play better the next game.

    Kinda like a dog chasin’ his tail.

    ;)

  102. Mike Ri August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Girardi has been dealt INJURY after INJURY and has the Yanks sitting in first place with a 4 game lead . The Pen isn’t burnt out ….. Soriano blew a save …. . thats what happended last night . . > it happens .

  103. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    “I’m kinda with mick on this one.. I would’ve rather taken the chance on getting the double play than letting the lead slip, but I understand both points.”

    in hindsight we can say he should have just eaten the ball…..however most of the time that runner holds there because they don’t want to risk making the 3rd out at home…..and they might have gotten him if Chavez didn’t bobble the transfer…..if you’re on the road and thats the winning run then yea you have to stop it from scoring first….if you’re at home and Darren Oliver is pitching then I get the out there and make the Jays take the chance….

    again they didn’t lose because of that play…they lost because of a host of other things.

  104. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Blake-

    Betcha’ Harper would heal faster.

    ;)

  105. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    There was NO risk in sending the runner home, with Chavez being the guy making the throw from 1B.
    If Nunez makes that play instead of Nix, Nunez would be hanging from the flag pole.

  106. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    MTU
    There was a guy on TV named MTU, pronounced eM-Too.
    Ever heard of him?

  107. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    “Girardi has been dealt INJURY after INJURY and has the Yanks sitting in first place with a 4 game lead . The Pen isn’t burnt out ….. Soriano blew a save …. . thats what happended last night . . > it happens .”

    this.

  108. MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    No Mick I haven’t.

  109. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    The mere fact that the runner scored shows how far down the line he was.
    If Nix took the time to turn and look , the runner would not have gotten back to 3rd, he was that far off.

  110. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    MTU,

    sure….and they are building age and injury risk which Cashman should address this winter….but in this particular case with Arod and Pettite they were freak injures by getting hit by balls….not like pulling a hammy or whatever.

  111. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    “The mere fact that the runner scored shows how far down the line he was.”

    have you seen the replay? He started back towards 3B initially….if Nix had faked the throw to first he would have likely gotten back to 3B and everyone would have been safe…..he didn’t break home until Nix threw to first

  112. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    MTU August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Blake-

    Betcha’ Harper would heal faster.
    ———————–

    Mike Trout would catch it in his teeth, chew it up, walk out to the mound, take the pitcher’s glove, drop trow and poop it in there.

  113. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    “There was NO risk in sending the runner home, with Chavez being the guy making the throw from 1B.
    If Nunez makes that play instead of Nix, Nunez would be hanging from the flag pole.”

    Chavez bobbled the transfer…..that’s a do or die play and I think Nix made an acceptable decision…..the game was lost by the botched pick off….the 3 run homer by Rasmus….and by the offense not being able to score more than they did.

  114. mick August 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    in hindsight we can say he should have just eaten the ball…
    ===========================
    it isn’t hindsight and i never said to eat the ball.
    the play was at 3rd. he wasn’t even deked.
    he never thought about him, as if he wasn’t there.

    and oliver stood them on their heads as he did last time, he is good and we should have gone for him.

  115. 86w183 August 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    The runner was a pinch runner known to have excellent speed. A veteran 3B fakes the throw and wheels around in hopes of trapping the runner. A journeyman utility guy makes the basic play.

    I don’t fault Nix, but Chavez probably makes the play I described.

    Because the pen had thrown 4 1/3 the night before he should have gone longer with Phelps. Now he has an even more gassed bullpen tonight.

    Moving on Phil, you got 8 in ya’???

  116. blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    “Mike Trout would catch it in his teeth, chew it up, walk out to the mound, take the pitcher’s glove, drop trow and poop it in there.”

    probably true

  117. JobaTipsHisCap August 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Cano needs to stand out now.
    Is he able to?

    vital streak starts from next series.

  118. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    If Nix had turned and looked, the runner woulda retreated Safely back to 3B. No way Nix coulda tagged the runner, or run him down. What game were you watchin’???

  119. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    i just looked at that replay a bit ago. the runner played it perfectly, he stayed enough off third that jeter couldnt get in behind him and was in perfect position to take off to the plate. still a clean handle by chavez and a good throw gets him imo.

  120. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    “The runner was a pinch runner known to have excellent speed. A veteran 3B fakes the throw and wheels around in hopes of trapping the runner. A journeyman utility guy makes the basic play.”

    ok this is also an acceptable option….I think the play he made and this were both acceptable options…..

  121. Mike Ri August 28th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    its just so easy to sit back and blame Girardi for everything or blame the slip in the standings to injuries ….. no manger in baseball is perfect and every team has injuries…….

    lets just give credit to where credit is due ! ————Baltimore and the Rays ……. both teams refuse to go away…

  122. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    bottom line….it was great baserunning and it paid off for the Jays

  123. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    “Mike Trout would catch it in his teeth, chew it up, walk out to the mound, take the pitcher’s glove, drop trow and poop it in there.”

    probably true
    ——————

    It would be followed by ESPN saying it was the greatest loaf ever pinched and the only thing that could’ve made it better was if he was a Red Sox player.

  124. mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    .the game was lost by the botched pick off….the 3 run homer by Rasmus….and by the offense not being able to score more than they did.
    ===================
    disagree.
    you can name a multitude of things that happened along the way .
    the game was tied. when was the last time you saw a 5-3-2 DP. Never.
    Maybe little league…saw a 2-3-7 DP last week.

  125. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Not only did Chavez have trouble with the transfer, he had trouble coming off the bag and positioning his feet in order to make the throw home. He also did Nothing to block the wild Lowe pickoff throw.

  126. 86w183 August 28th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    have a day folks

  127. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    every loss is girardi’s fault. and the wins are all despite his best efforts.

    hindsight ROCKS!

  128. RayVT August 28th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Mike Ri August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Completely agree!

  129. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    every loss is girardi’s fault. and the wins are all despite his best efforts.

    hindsight ROCKS!
    ———————

    Managers get too much credit for team victories and too much blame for their losses – such is life.

  130. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Mick,

    Im sure there have been several this year….but usually you dont see them because the runner stays at 3B on that play……

  131. mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Im sure there have been several this year…
    ===================
    blake you are one stubborn guy….you have never seen one have you?
    admit it.

  132. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Girardi has dealt with tons of injuries and poor performance this year…..and here we sit 3.5 games up with a month to play…..it is what it is…..Im not sure what else he can do….hes playing with a ton of bench guys and a bullpen thats very top heavy

  133. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    NO excuse for letting TEX do a Walter Brennan running the bases.

  134. mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    For the last time…Nix DID NOT know where the runner was.
    That is my point.

  135. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Mick,

    Youve never seen a 5-3-2 on a play like that where the runner got thrown out at home? How much baseball have you watched?

  136. Shame Spencer August 28th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    blake August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    “I’m kinda with mick on this one.. I would’ve rather taken the chance on getting the double play than letting the lead slip, but I understand both points.”

    in hindsight we can say he should have just eaten the ball…..however most of the time that runner holds there because they don’t want to risk making the 3rd out at home…..and they might have gotten him if Chavez didn’t bobble the transfer…..if you’re on the road and thats the winning run then yea you have to stop it from scoring first….if you’re at home and Darren Oliver is pitching then I get the out there and make the Jays take the chance….

    again they didn’t lose because of that play…they lost because of a host of other things.

    ——————————-

    I agree completely with your logic.. and most of that play was created by just straight up aggressive base running. But the first thing I saw when the play unfolded was Nix totally ignoring the base runner on 3rd. I know the play didn’t cost them the game, but I found myself annoyed he didn’t bother to check the runner. I feel like that’s a 101 thing. Like I said, I’d just prefer to keep the run on base because if you can’t get the double play that run scores anyway but at least you gave another shot to get the outs you need.

  137. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    NO excuse for letting TEX do a Walter Brennan running the bases.
    ——————

    Tex said that when it happened he thought it was a cramp that would loosen up as he moved, it didn’t. If your player tells you that he’s fine and doesn’t need to come out of the game you take him at his word.

  138. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Nix didnt know where the runner was because he doesnt have eyes in the back of his head…..who does?

  139. LGY August 28th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Pettitte has already said he doesn’t need mL rehab games to get ready. With expanded rosters, sim games are sufficient.

  140. mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    How much baseball have you watched?
    ===============
    More than you.
    You still haven’t named the one you saw…

  141. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Girardi has dealt with tons of injuries and poor performance this year…..and here we sit 3.5 games up with a month to play…..it is what it is…..Im not sure what else he can do….hes playing with a ton of bench guys and a bullpen thats very top heavy
    ———————-

    Exactly.

    If anyone had said before the season the season that the Yankees were going to have to rely as heavily as they are on Ibanez, Jones, Chavez, Nix, Eppley, Soriano and Rapada and that the team would still be leading the division – we would’ve signed up for it.

  142. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    A Mgr should Not take a player at his word. These guys are programmed to play, plain and simple. Once he drew the walk, Girardi shoulda 86′d him. Hell, he limped down to 1B after ball 4.

  143. LGY August 28th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    This isn’t little league.

    None of these guys would have made it to the big leagues if they were soft enough to remove themselves from the game the second they felt a twinge of pain.

  144. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    ” But the first thing I saw when the play unfolded was Nix totally ignoring the base runner on 3rd. ”

    here is the thing….it wasn’t a routine ground ball to 3B….it was a softly hit slow roller so immediately you have to decide if you’re going for the out at 1B or if you’re going to hold the runner and eat the play….it’s almost like a squeeze….he chose to get the out and hope the runner held….the runner didn’t and they didn’t get him.. I can see the argument for just holding the ball…..but I think he made an acceptable choice….JMO

  145. mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Shame I’m leaving Blake to you, he is too stubborn and now I see why JF gave him the runaround that day.
    How you find time for this between filling cavities is beyond me…

  146. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Eppley and Rapada are over done French Toast. Fried

  147. mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    he chose to get the out and hope the runner held….
    =========================
    better “hope” he isn’t at 3rd, game 7 WS.

  148. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    so anytime there is any kind of injury, the manager should just take the guy out, no matter what he says?

    hinsight ROCKS!

  149. mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Hell, he limped down to 1B after ball 4.
    ==================
    and made the injury worse.

  150. LGY August 28th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    A Mgr should Not take a player at his word. These guys are programmed to play, plain and simple. Once he drew the walk, Girardi shoulda 86?d him. Hell, he limped down to 1B after ball 4.

    ———

    Should a basketball coach remove a player from the game every time a player rolls his ankle and limps around for a minute?

  151. GoldGlove9486 August 28th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    Soriano blew it. The game was still won with one strike to go against Davis. It’s never an easy inning with him. But here’s what irked me the most, and Phelps is mature enough to admit it….

    Yanks go up 4-1, and Phelps gives up a bomb to Torrealba, who had three hits last night. And the fourth run was charged to Phelps, but it’s all because Eppley is not a good pitcher. Once in a while the team needs to win a blow out game and let the bullpen relax. Obviously that doesn’t happen much with our banged up offense.

  152. Jerkface August 28th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Don’t you have unlimited substitutions in basketball?

  153. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    I would pull Koby Bryant before the opening horn. The guy issa cry baby.

  154. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    “Shame I’m leaving Blake to you, he is too stubborn and now I see why JF gave him the runaround that day.”

    whatever ….I’m just explaining why Nix did what he did. You’re free to disagree….but you’re original thought was that he should have looked him back before going to 1B….showing that you really didn’t see the or where the runner was….or that that wasn’t even an option on a slow roller….he had two options….get the out….or eat it

  155. Chip August 28th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Hell, he limped down to 1B after ball 4.
    ==================
    and made the injury worse.
    —————-

    Ok, so what if it had been a simple cramp that loosened up in the clubhouse. Same end result of the game and then you fools would be here this morning saying that Girardi babied Tex and if he wasn’t taken out of the game he makes the play.

  156. LGY August 28th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Jerkface August 28th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Don’t you have unlimited substitutions in basketball?

    ——-

    Yeah, but pretend you don’t ;)

  157. mick August 28th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    .showing that you really didn’t see the or where the runner was…
    ===================
    I saw where the runner was, that’s why I took this position.
    Did you?
    Go back and check. You won’t admit I am right but he was so far off the base Nix would have gotten him without ANY question.

    The End.

  158. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    people playing doctor online from what they saw on tv is a joke.

  159. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Sure, we lose 1 game, and probably get TEX back on the field sooner. Knowing your players is important when managing. TEX playing with that bronchial problem, is an example of how he will drag himself onto the field regardless of his physical condition.

  160. Warning Track Power August 28th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    last night was just awful.
    losing the game and then learning that Tex has a calf injury.
    last week Jeter’s calf injury cost him 3 weeks. i won’t be surprised
    if Tex is out of action for at least 3 weeks. no reason to rush him back.
    he has to get 100% before returning or else suffering the same injury on his
    1st day back will be awful.
    Soriano just made a bad pitch and paid the ultimate price. same thing could have/has
    happened to Mo plenty of times.
    i just hope Soriano can put that game behind him and move on in a positive way.

  161. bruceb August 28th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    If anyone had said before the season the season that the Yankees were going to have to rely as heavily as they are on Ibanez, Jones, Chavez, Nix, Eppley, Soriano and Rapada and that the team would still be leading the division – we would’ve signed up for it.

    100 percent correct. The problem is that the fill-in players were making massive contributions and now, all of a sudden, they have stopped.

    That leaves us with four starters (I’m not going to include Garcia because he’s an accident waiting to happen every time he takes the mound), two relievers, and a lineup consisting of Jeter, Swisher and Cano. Sure, Grandy will pop one over the bleachers now and again, but not usually when you need it most. Is this really going to be enough to hold off the Rays and Orioles?

    No team can absorb injuries like the New York Yankees but there has to come a point when it’s a bridge too far. Is Tex the straw that broke the camel’s back, if you’ll pardon the cliches?

  162. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    “I saw where the runner was, that’s why I took this position.
    Did you?”

    yes and I’ve told you like 3 times to check the replay….the runner broke back to 3B initially

  163. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    i watched that highlight at least 5 times this morning and there is no way nix was going to get the runner at 3b either by tagging him, because he was too far away and moving in the other direction, or by throwing behind him to jeter. if that’s what you are saying, you are flat wrong.

    in fact im looking at it in pause right now. nix just grabbed the ball, the runner is 8 feet off the bag and jeter is at least 15 feet from 3b. there is absolutely no play on the runner on third.

    http://web.yesnetwork.com/medi.....d=24268873

  164. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    “Go back and check. You won’t admit I am right but he was so far off the base Nix would have gotten him without ANY question”

    false…..if you want to debate whether he should have held the ball or not then fine that’s a fair opinion…..but if he would have ate the ball then they would have gotten zero outs based on what the runner did….he didn’t break home until Nix went to 1B and he almost certainly would have made it back to 3B if Nix hadn’t went to first….

  165. LGY August 28th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    I must have missed something. How do we know Tex made his injury worse running around the bases?

  166. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    “i watched that highlight at least 5 times this morning and there is no way nix was going to get the runner at 3b either by tagging him, because he was too far away and moving in the other direction, or by throwing behind him to jeter. if that’s what you are saying, you are flat wrong.

    in fact im looking at it in pause right now. nix just grabbed the ball, the runner is 8 feet off the bag and jeter is at least 15 feet from 3b. there is absolutely no play on the runner on third.

    http://web.yesnetwork.com/medi…..d=24268873″

    bingo….boom roasted

  167. Jerkface August 28th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    yes and I’ve told you like 3 times to check the replay….the runner broke back to 3B initially

    As whomever was charging forward the runner was scooching back and once he got behind the 3Bman the runner stopped. As far as our 3B knew the guy was heading back to third.

  168. Shame Spencer August 28th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    blake – I hear ya, like I said I get both sides because I do think you’re right.. if he checks the runner he probably doesn’t have time to fling it to first. Its more preference re: if you think you can get the winning run vs. if you think you can get the two outs with a guy on 3rd. Again, full credit to the Jays for aggressive base-running. If Chavy got a better throw off to home it may have ended the inning, he just came up high.

  169. ButtSmacker August 28th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    The top of the 11th is just starting on YES now if anyone feels like watching Andruw Jones jog over to get Lowe’s bad pickoff throw in RF.

  170. Shame Spencer August 28th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    LGY August 28th, 2012 at 11:33 am

    I must have missed something. How do we know Tex made his injury worse running around the bases?

    ——————

    I thought the argument was Tex was as soft as a pillow and got injured on purpose lol.. I can’t even follow that discussion…

  171. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Nix’s only way of knowing where the runner is on that play is listening to the dugout and listening to the runner’s footsteps…..because he held until the ball was thrown Nix thought he was holding….he made the right play….it didn’t work.

  172. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    the more i look at the play the more i’m convinced that the baserunner just make an excellent play. perfect placement, perfect break for the plate, just a great play.

  173. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Well, if the fill-ins have reached the end of their rope, there really is nothing to be done about it. You can hope they can find additional pieces when the rosters expand, but I highly doubt there is a real quality substitute(s) to be found at this point.

    And it doesn’t take anything away from the job they’ve done to date.

    Seems to me the Yankees did a good job of anticipating injuries when they build a competent and professional bench. However, the extent and scope of the injuries is probably more than any team could imagine. Not having Gardner for almost the entire season. Not having Mo for almost the entire season. Not having Pettitte for a huge portion of the season. Not having ARod for a large stretch of games where there were no off days. Losing CC to the DL TWICE – a guy who never is on the DL. Losing Tex at a couple of different points during the season. Losing Swisher, though not to the DL, for a chunk of time. All overlapping. And I almost forgot DRob being on the DL too. (This does not include Pineda or Joba.)

    It is truly a testament to this team that they are still in first and do still have the second best record in the AL.

    You cannot take this away from them, no matter what happens from here on out.

  174. Villa Nova-Ya August 28th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Ys Guy -

    Don’t you know the other teams are incapable of making good plays????? It’s only due to the constant bumbling and fumbling of the inept and poorly managed “how the heck are THEY in first place” Yankees that other teams manage to win games.

  175. bruceb August 28th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    If this was the Wild West, Andruw Jones would have been run out of town weeks ago. Maybe it’s just the way he comes across but does this guy really care whether he makes a contribution or is he just here to pick up a paycheck? That first-pitch popup in extra last night suggests the latter.

  176. ButtSmacker August 28th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    After seeing the play a few more times I don’t think Andruw had a chance to hold McCoy at 2B there… That said Andruw Jones is still a complete liability at the plate and in the field this year. Based on Andruw Jones play post ASB last year (.291/.416/.612/1.028) I was all for bringing him back as part of DH platoon this year or at least a power RH bat off the bench but he has been extremely disappointing. Completely worthless for the most part aside from his one big series in Boston.

  177. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Following each K Jones racks up, he sits a little closer to Jeet on the Yankee bench. Jones will soon be in Jeet’s lap.

  178. Warning Track Power August 28th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    “I saw where the runner was, that’s why I took this position.
    Did you?”

    yes and I’ve told you like 3 times to check the replay….the runner broke back to 3B initially
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    I wonder if Jeter verbally communicated to Nix where the runner was or to look the runner back. I have a feeling nothing was said, so Nix did all he could do to get the runner out at 1st.
    The jays runner made a great play. His speed obviously helped him score. A slower run would not have made the attempt.

    In a perfect world I would’ve loved for Nix to look the runner back at 3rd and then thrown
    to 1st for the out. That might be a lot to ask for given the situation.

  179. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    vn, i know its amazing. reading the comments right after the game last night, it was clear that girardi gave up the 3 run homer, then joe threw the pickoff into RF, then struck out to end the game (obviously under orders from the evil cashman)!

  180. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    wtp, i specifically looked at jeter on that replay to see if he was yelling to nix but it doesnt look like it.

  181. LGY August 28th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Has Face gloated yet that the Yankees could use Kontos right now?

    He’s held LHBs to a .331 OPS this season :shock:

  182. Warning Track Power August 28th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Ys Guy-
    I wonder why Jeter was silent. I don’t know if he has a habit of verbally communicating on the field or not. That’s something he has to answer.
    With the go ahead run on 3rd, maybe Jeter could’ve shouted to Nix.
    The runner was a pinch-runner=he has speed and will try hard to score that go ahead run.
    Maybe I should just accept the batted ball was the perfect grounder that a 3rd baseman had
    to charge, instead of being hit directly at him, giving Nix plenty of time to look the runner back before throwing to 1st.

  183. Shame Spencer August 28th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    The play to Nix wasn’t routine.. the story in this game re: why we lost rests with the pen mostly. And we can’t be that upset about it, because we’ve seen how they’ve been wearing down. Just need to regroup and win tonight. I’ll tell you this…I miss Mo. And come playoff time, I’m going to have to up my Pepto dosage to deal with Soriano.

  184. Shame Spencer August 28th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Phelps had a great start, btw. Did he go 6.1 or 6.2 innings? Don’t love the HRs but you gotta accept it with young pitchers at our stadium.

  185. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    checking the audio, someone yells something as nix is fielding the ball, but i can’t make it out, my guess is it’s martin. then as soon as he goes to first you can hear them shouting home, home, home!

  186. ButtSmacker August 28th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Hey Ys Guy,

    Do you think it was a good idea to pull Phelps when Joe G did?

    Phelps was at 88 pitches (threw 95 his last start)… He had just given up a seeing eye ground ball single with 1 out… The next 2 guys up Sierra and Hechavarria were 1-4 against Phelps at that point in the game (the one hit being an infield single, all 4 balls those 2 put in play were grounders)… If Joe is going for the DP there I like my chances with Phelps who has a manageable PC and has already proven capable of making the next 2 guys in the lineup hit grounders over Eppley who has been AWFUL for some time now. To me, staying with Phelps there was pretty much common sense.

    All that said, Soriano lost the game last night, not Girardi. However, Joe’s poor feeling for when to pull his starter did not help yet again.

  187. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    i think that’s just a reaction play and you dont have time to react to what other players are telling you to do or the play is lost. i think jeter didnt yell anything at him because you just want the guy to make the play he thinks he has. then they all yell, home! to alert chavez that the runner took off.

  188. bruceb August 28th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Girardi had nothing to do with last night’s loss IMHO but he has to stop over-managing. You can give him credit for pulling Freddy when he did in Cleveland but sometimes you have to let you starters work their way out of trouble. Right now, he only has two relievers he can trust so there’s absolutely no point in pulling Phelps after 6.1 innings to replace him with a Rapada or a Logan.

  189. ButtSmacker August 28th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Edit to my post above, Hechavarria’s out vs Phelps was a K, not a grounder…. Both of Sierra’s outs vs Phelps were both ground ball outs.

  190. blake August 28th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    ‘the more i look at the play the more i’m convinced that the baserunner just make an excellent play. perfect placement, perfect break for the plate, just a great play.”

    Totally agree….

  191. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    getting the lead into the hands of the closer and letting him finish the game was a very solid gameplan and it worked to that point. Sori has closed out what, 90% if his save opportunities?

    you can second guess every single decision a manager makes as many on here do, but the result that soriano took the mound with a 2 run lead was a very good outcome.

    unfortunately, this one fell into the wrong 10% because sori wasnt able to close it out.

    did you post your objection to him pulling phelps at the point it happened?

  192. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    at any tight spot in the late middle of a game, there are a bunch of people saying ‘pull the starter’ and another bunch saying ‘don’t bring in so-and-so’.

    when the decision works out well, nobody mentions it again. when it doesn’t it’s all the manager’s fault.

  193. blake August 28th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    The runner faked like he was holding then broke for home…..very aggressive and great baseball play by the Jays…..

    I have a much bigger problen with them.letting Darren Oliver close them out.

  194. blake August 28th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Girardi has done the best he could this year…..he annoys me sometimes but over 162 games there isnt going to be anybody that doesnt make mistakes…..

    Overall I think Joe has made a lot of Lemonade out of Lemons…..

  195. Warning Track Power August 28th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    A.J. Burnett was pitching in a very important game last night for the Bucs and of course
    A.J. could not get the job done.
    Appears like his typical performance when he was in NY
    5.2 IP
    4 runs given up, 7 hits
    Was given a 2-0 lead and quickly gave up 4 runs and took the loss

  196. DONNYBROOK August 28th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Girardi PH Jones for Ibanez leading off the 6th. WAY to early for that move.

  197. ButtSmacker August 28th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Ys Guy,

    You really are ridiculous.

    I am finding it extremely amusing that you refuse to answer the question of whether or not it was a good idea to pull Phelps for Eppley in that situation last night. It’s obvious you agree with my statement but are too stubborn to agree with me… Just keep going back to “last night’s game is not Girardi’s fault” which I am CLEARLY already in agreement with you on.

  198. blake August 28th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    I thought Joe pulled Phelps too early and posted it at the time….but bottom line he handed a 2 run lead to hia very good closer and he blew it……history shows thats going to happen a handful of times to every team…..

    What matters now is finding a way to win these next two…

  199. Ys Guy August 28th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    aj seems to be crumbling as the pennant race heats up. alot like derek lowe did with the braves last year (0-5, 8.70 era in sept.)

    aj still has time to right the ship, though.

  200. Shame Spencer August 28th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Girardi is notoriously careful with young starters.. he appears to prefer to pull them too early than too late to build confidence. Phelps did only leave them with, what, 8 outs to earn?

    I miss Mo.

  201. ButtSmacker August 28th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Post ASB Eppley has a 4.63 ERA with an even more disturbing .373 BAA.

    Again, it’s not the reason they lost, but it certainly did not help going to Eppley over Phelps who only had 88 pitches, was hardly even in trouble with just a guy on 1B and 1 out, and had routinely taken care of the next 2 guys coming up in the lineup. Especially considering he had gotten Sierra, the next batter, to ground out to himself and 2B earlier in the game.

    There is 0 logic behind going to Eppley there aside from whatever stat Joe found in his binder that told him to do so.

  202. blake August 28th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    I miss Mo.”

    Very much


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