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Postgame notes: “We just didn’t play”

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CC Sabathia tried to take all the blame for today’s debacle. As reporters gathered around his locker, the Yankees ace was blunt.

“It’s definitely disappointing,” he said. “I feel like this game is all my fault, obviously.”

Actually, it wasn’t obvious at all. Sabathia gave up a lead twice, so he deserved some of the blame, but the Yankees were 3-for-17 with runners in scoring position. They made three errors, and that’s not counting the two diving catches that fell out of Andruw Jones’ glove. They lost two out of three against the worst team in the division, and next they have to face the second-place Orioles.

“You show me a manager or player who’s happy to lose a ballgame, and I’ll show you a loser,” Joe Girardi said. “We didn’t play well today. We had plenty of opportunities to win that game and we didn’t get it done. You have to get it done. … We had chances offensively and didn’t get it done. We had chances defensively and didn’t get it done. We didn’t make pitches when we had to. We just didn’t play.”

True, true and true. This was a game the Yankees should have won for all sorts of different reasons, mostly because the Blue Jays are a bad team and the Yankees are supposed to a World Series contender. There are plenty of excuses – Sabathia’s defense let him down, the Yankees made some good plays to make up for some of their mistakes, the lineup is missing key pieces – but Alex Rodriguez and Mark Teixeira aren’t coming back any time soon, and the Yankees have to beat teams like the Blue Jays.

Today was a bad game. It was a bad game for Sabathia, it was a bad game for the lineup and it was a bad game for the Yankees.

“Ain’t nobody that likes losing before off days,” Nick Swisher said. “Tough series for us, man. We’ve got to put it behind us. That off day for us couldn’t come at a better time. We’re a little banged up right now. We’ve just got to keep going out there. We’ve got to find a way to win games. That’s it.”

• The Yankees actually did have some good luck on their side. They scored two runs when Rajai Davis misplayed Curtis Granderson’s fly ball, and they scored another when Russell Martin’s bouncing ball hit the third-base bag and skipped into the outfield. “There’s a lot of times you say, ‘Hit the bag,’ and it never does,” Girardi said. “Today was one of those days it hit the bag, (but) it seemed like a few times we had runners on second with nobody out and weren’t able to get them home. That’s probably what cost us the game.”

• Andruw Jones nearly made two good catches, but with each diving attempt, the ball rolled out of his glove when he hit the ground. “The first one, I had it,” he said. “I just kind of rolled over my wrist a little bit and wasn’t actually (hurt) that bad. But the second one, I got my fingers caught up into the ground and rolled over a little bit. Those are tough plays, but if you get your glove to them, you’ve got to make them.”

• Jones clearly hurt his glove hand on the second diving play, but he said he was fine. “It’s alright,” he said. “It’s just my fingers went back a little bit. But it’s alright I guess.”

• Ichiro Suzuki is known for an ability to handle the bat, but he failed to get a bunt down today and it seemed to cost the Yankees. “Obviously in baseball you just have a lot of momentums,” he said. “And I wasn’t able to get that bunt down to create that momentum. Obviously in this important stretch, the run down the stretch, obviously we need to get things done and I need to do better.”

• The Yankees were held homerless in back-to-back games for the third time this season. It’s the first time they were back-to-back games without a homer at home this season.

• The Yankees reached base in six of nine innings and matched their season-high for at-bats with runners in scoring position in a nine-inning game. Of their eight hits, six were doubles, their most doubles in a game since July 30, 2011.

• Derek Jeter’s first-inning error was his first since July 8, snapping a 38-game errorless streak. According to Elias, it’s his longest error-free streak since a career-high 52 games in 2010.

• Sabathia’s day started to go bad when he gave up three runs with two outs in the third. Jayson Nix made a nice play to turn two and put Sabathia on the verge of ending the inning, but things started to unravel with a hit by Edwin Encarnacion. “I just think obviously it was 3-0 just trying to make a pitch,” Sabathia said. “He put a good swing on the pitch. I just think the two-strike pitches killed me today.”

• Sabathia on the homer to Escobar, which came on a hanging slider: “I was just trying to make a pitch and not walk him. I should probably be smarter than that.”

• Some of the Blue Jays damage came on broken bat hits, but Sabathia couldn’t care less. “It really doesn’t matter,” he said. “They’re line drives to score runs. It’s up to me to make pitches and get out of the inning, and I didn’t do that tonight.”

• Make no mistake, Sabathia said he was fully healthy and had good stuff. “Just frustrated at actually having my stuff and not making the pitches,” he said. “Obviously you have to give them credit for putting together good at-bats, but I need to make better pitches and I didn’t do that today.”

• Final word goes to Girardi: “At times we haven’t hit during this little streak. We haven’t scored as many runs as we have in the past. Up until today our pitching wasn’t too bad. Today it was a combination of a lot of different things. You have to put it behind you. That’s all you can do. This day is over with, so put it behind you and move on.”

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282 Responses to “Postgame notes: “We just didn’t play””

  1. mick August 29th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    You can’t make those kind of catches with a smile on your face.

  2. theREALkevin August 29th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Rays up 6-0 on Texas already tonight. Young, hungry team and they are clicking right now. I was never worried about the Yankees losing the division until like right now. They need to pick it up and quickly or they will be fighting for a wild card spot soon.

  3. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Did a speed run to the City today and got home about 1/2 hour ago, thinking I was in time to see the game. Well I did’t remember it was being played today. I see we lost. I’d like to use the beat up and injured reason but who’s more beat up and injured than the Jays?

    Anyway, we’ve got tired ballplayers. Everyone does. And we have a somewhat revolving lineup. So all we can do is what we can do. Hold tight and do the best we can.

    I guess I was beyond perspicacious when I said the Orioles were going to be a team to watch! I was just a few seasons early when I started to say it. And boy they’re for real. They are leaving no stone unturned, and they’re on a high. I don’t know what their injury meter is but I don’t think it rivals ours in terms of importance of player down. I could be wrong.

    Anyway, we just have to keep on keeping on. Maybe everyone’s trying to be the hero and everyone’s playing tight in the process. Who knows. I just know that we have playoff worthy players. Whether they are showing it at this very moment, I don’t know. But I do know we have them up and down the line. Hopefully things get straightened out, Andy comes back, Alex comes back, the pen is shored up for the postseason since some of our starters will end up in the pen. And hopefully our offense works in unison and shows once again why the Yankees are the team to beat.

  4. mick August 29th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    as long as teams keep throwing leftys at us we are in trouble…balt just got saunders and another lefty, forget his name….price and moore , come on down.

  5. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 29th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    “You have to put it behind you. That’s all you can do. This day is over with, so put it behind you and move on.”

    And there’s the other half.

    GO YANKS!

  6. blake August 29th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Y’s,
    I don’t think George was perfect….far from it….he did some dumb things….but you never ever questioned his desire to win…..do you think the current ownership has that same desire? I’m not sure…..

  7. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    i have never spoken to hal, hank or george so i dont know, but what did desire do for the yankees from 1982-1995?

  8. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    the yankees are not a perfect team. there is no perfect team in baseball. the cardinals were far from perfect last season.

    but the yankees are in first place and imo they are a better team than the rays or the orioles.

    and once the yankees get into the PS (and they will) they can win it all. just like anyone else who gets in.

  9. blake August 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    “i have never spoken to hal, hank or george so i dont know, but what did desire do for the yankees from 1982-1995?”

    I didnt say the team should be ran exactly like George ran it….because it shouldnt…..but as a fan Id like to know Hal is upset right now….and maybe he is….

  10. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    were the giants a perfect team last nfl season? were they even the best team? does that matter?

  11. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    George being upset was a distraction and an entertainment.

    When they were not winning, it took attention away from the losing; when they were mostly winning, the constant nit-picking game to game was annoying and worse.

    George’s style was often a detriment. And a sideshow.

  12. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    if someone told me in march that the yankees would be 3 games ahead in the division on august 29th. i’da been very happy to hear that.

    there’s going to be a great pennant race in the al east this year.

    pennant races ROCK!

    bring em on!

    Let’s Go Yankees!

  13. blake August 29th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    “George’s style was often a detriment. And a sideshow.”

    Yes….but did you ever question that winning was his #1 priority?

  14. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    do you think the current ownership has that same desire? I’m not sure…..

    ——————

    Of course not. George’s desire could not be matched. All the current ownership cares about is making it to the dance because anything can happen

  15. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    blake -

    I think there were times when George’s #1 priority was keeping the Yankees plastered on the back pages regardless of what they did on the field.

  16. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    winning was probably ray handley’s first priority, too.

  17. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Yes….but did you ever question that winning was his #1 priority

    —————–

    Very Jordan-esque

  18. blake August 29th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    “if someone told me in march that the yankees would be 3 games ahead in the division on august 29th. i’da been very happy to hear that.”

    Yea I would to….problem is that we know how they got here and how theyve been playing since the all star break…..theyve been a .500 team for awhile now. A lot of that has to do with health of course….but they need to play better

  19. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    And George’s tenure and this current tenure are operating under different rules – a whole new ballgame, so to speak. There’s been expansion and the wild card, and the real push for parity. George did not have the same limits on what he could spend and pretty much no competition for spending money (which he did not always spend wisely).

  20. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    they can win it all. just like anyone else who gets in.

    ————

    I think many will be surprised if they do. Yes there are yrs when teams go on Cinderella runs but those are exceptions not the rule.

  21. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    really, who cares? they’re here, they’ve got a great chance to win the division and that’s the goal for the RS.

    i just cant be all bummed out because they’re not winning by 10 games. this is going to be a GREAT september pennant race.

  22. blake August 29th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    “And George’s tenure and this current tenure are operating under different rules –”

    True….but I do think its interesting that MLB has been wanting these rules for years….but couldnt make it happen until George was gone? Coincidence?

  23. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    You could never call a Yankees run a Cinderella run.

    They were expected to be about exactly the spot they are in now. It’s just, the route they took to get to this spot was somewhat, um, interesting.

  24. blake August 29th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    “i just cant be all bummed out because they’re not winning by 10 games. this is going to be a GREAT september pennant race.”

    I love great pennant races…..I just prefer the Yanks to run away with their division and the rest to be tight ;)

  25. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    He was probably the biggest road block to those changes.

  26. bruceb August 29th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    I would hardly call this a “little streak.” Apart from the Texas series, we’ve been playing fundamentally bad baseball for six weeks. If we’ve hit, we’ve pitched badly. We’ve given away games without stealing any ourselves.

  27. mick August 29th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Apart from the Texas series, we’ve been playing fundamentally bad baseball for six weeks.
    =======================
    Is Arod the answer? Arod and Tex, yes.

  28. mick August 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    mick August 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    tightwad? how spoiled can you possibly be? spending more than anybody else isnt enough for you.
    ======================
    How much has Hal laid out for guys he signed?

  29. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    i haven’t been playing any baseball…

    ;)

  30. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    more than anyone else has spent on the guys they signed.

  31. blake August 29th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    They do miss Alex badly……and they really miss Tex too….

  32. Benny Blanco August 29th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    FITS and Shiggles.

    Josh Beckett (26 Years old) 15-11 with a 5.05 era and 1.29 whip. 200 innings 158Ks

    Phil Hughes ( 26 Years old) 13-11 4.01 era 1.25 whip. 156 innings ( TBD) 130Ks ( TBD)

  33. mick August 29th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Hal hasn’t spent a dime and won’t in the OS if it effects 2014 189.

  34. mick August 29th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    The RS want to be the Yanks so bad they will try to steal as much as they can from us this OS like they thought they did with Aceves.

    Their 1st target should be A. Jones.

  35. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    My problem with the Yankee team is that it was designed from the outset to be a platoon heavy team and that is the kind of team that can get killed by injuries. The Yankees have done really well to still be in first despite all the stuff they have had to deal with. That is the payroll working.

    I wish Cashman would have made a real trade at the deadline. I feel like Ichiro was kind of their ‘splash’ since they gave up actual prospects for him, but he wasn’t exactly what they needed.

    One of the problems with signing Ibanez is that I said Girardi would play him in the OF more than he should be played there (never) and if there is an injury you have a guy that they are looking at trying to be a bounce back bat (which he hasn’t really) getting forced into the lineup. It also has not helped that Mr ‘I’m gonna take someones job’ Jones sucks.

  36. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    hal hasnt spent a dime? who’s covering the biggest payroll in baseball then. thats a preposterous argument.

  37. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    where is the platoon? if gardner was healthy, who would be platooning?

  38. mick August 29th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    i said it before but you ignore it….who has Hal signed.
    Hal is paying Arod, sure, but it obviously wasn’t his choice or direction.
    Hence Hank has been ousted as the 2 could not co-exist.

  39. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    they’d have a dh platoon thats it. unless you count chavez spelling arod at 3b occasionally as a platoon. by design this was 8 regulars and a dh platoon at most.

  40. blake August 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Jones was really good last year vs LHP…..the Yanks were counting on that again and it just hasnt happened …..its really hurt them.

  41. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    so you are saying hal didnt sign tex? cc? aj burnett? hasnt re-signed mo and jeter? i dont get what you are trying to say, do you mean who has he recruited to sign?

  42. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    they’d have a dh platoon thats it. unless you count chavez spelling arod at 3b occasionally as a platoon. by design this was 8 regulars and a dh platoon at most.

    Without a doubt Girardi was going to platoon the outfield.

  43. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    And he did. Gardner sat a lot to start the season.

  44. mick August 29th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    The Yanks , when healthy, are a juggernaut, it’s just that they are not healthy very often.
    Age was not the excuse this time as Andy, Gardy, Tex and Arod were all hurt in other ways.
    It’s a good thing they had this depth but utility players cannot win you a championship.

  45. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    The other big problem is that their platoon players outside of Eric Chavez aren’t actually that great.

    Ibanez barely gets on base, he is just good for a little pop in the stadium.

  46. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    The RS want to be the Yanks so bad

    ——————-

    Well Cashman more than once admitted he copied what the Red Sox were doing in the 2000s when it came to the farm so I guess it’s their time to copy us.

  47. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    gardner played 159 games in the outfield last season.

  48. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    so you are saying hal didnt sign tex? cc? aj burnett? hasnt re-signed mo and jeter? i dont get what you are trying to say, do you mean who has he recruited to sign?
    =============================================
    Hal resigned CC and Jeter, they were no brainers.
    If you don’t think he is going to cut back, you’re wrong.

  49. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    gardner didnt sit til his elbow started hurting.

  50. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    gardner played 159 games in the outfield last season.

    Cool what does that have to do with this season?

  51. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Well Cashman more than once admitted he copied what the Red Sox were doing in the 2000s when it came to the farm so I guess it’s their time to copy us.
    =====================
    The RS have always been Yankee wannabes.

  52. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    gardner didnt sit til his elbow started hurting.

    He sat the second game of the season.

  53. LGY August 29th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Cashman complains about the cost of trades at the deadline every year and then the vast majority of the prospects he holds on to bust out.

    Remember when including Nunez in the Cliff Lee trade suddenly was way too much for Cash? Or Joba for the multitude of high quality players he could have been moved for. Look at those two guys now.

    Either Cashman needs to stop whining about the price of trades and move prospects for established players or actually develop them so they can contribute to the club.

    The dumpster diving band aides only work for some long and right now we are past the expiration date on a lot of them.

  54. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    And did not start the 4th or the 8th.

  55. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    what are you talking about mick?
    was hal not in charge when they signed cc and tex originally? because if you think he wasnt, then you know something that everyone else around the yankees doesnt.

  56. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    , sure, but it obviously wasn’this choice or direction

    ——–

    How wasn’t it? He was the money guy at the time and still is. Ppl always mention Hank when it comes to Arod but Hal should be mentioned as well

  57. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    hal has been the head of the ownership group since 1996!

  58. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    How was Hal in charge as long as Hank was around Ys?
    Hal is in charge since Hank was ousted.

  59. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    so you’re saying hank ran the team till the end of the 2008 season?

    hank couldnt run a fruit stand.

  60. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    hal has been the head of the ownership group since 1996!
    ===================================
    when George was still coherent?
    give me a break…
    Hal wanted no part of this when Geo. was around, everybody knows that.

  61. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    The RS have always been Yankee wannabes

    ————-

    Touche :)

  62. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    hank was allowed to negotiate arod’s return. he f’ed it up so bad that they never let him near the team again.

  63. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    george was not coherent in 1996. he never took control of running the team after his suspension.

  64. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    so you’re saying hank ran the team till the end of the 2008 season?
    ========================
    there’s a differnce between having autonomy and battling divergent factions within one’s organization and family.

    it seems that part of the deal is over.

  65. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    How was Hal in charge as long as Hank was around Ys? Hal is I

    —————-

    The point is Hal should take the same amount of blame for the Arod contract as Hank does.

  66. LGY August 29th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    The Yankees need to call up Mark Montgomery. He’s striking out over 14 per 9 and walking less than 3 in AA.

    Yes, it would be risky because it’s probably rushing him but he’s the only guy in the system above A ball that has the high quality stuff they desperately need in the bullpen right now.

  67. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    george was not coherent in 1996.
    ========================
    who was that guy in the locker room after game 6 that looked like him?

  68. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    c’mon every biography about george concedes that he was never in charge again after his suspension. idk when the family first started seeing the signs of his dimentia, but it was likely around 96.

  69. blake August 29th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    “Either Cashman needs to stop whining about the price of trades and move prospects for established players or actually develop them so they can contribute to the club.

    The dumpster diving band aides only work for some long and right now we are past the expiration date on a lot of them.”

    bingo

  70. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    George was not demented in 96.
    A little melancholy but not certifiable.

  71. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    hal was officially named the head of the yankees in september of 2007. saying he didnt ‘sign’ tex, cc and aj is ridiculous. hank was out of the picture by that offseason.

  72. blake August 29th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    I think Cashman has maybe become a little too afraid of overpaying…..the problem is that there are a host of teams willing to go for it every year now….

  73. Against All Odds August 29th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    who was that guy in the locker room after game 6 that looked like him

    ———–

    It was Hank impersonating George

  74. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    i can tell you from personal experience with alzheimers that the family knows way before it is obvious to outsiders. reporters started commenting on george’s ‘health’ around 1999.

  75. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    when hal was named has nothing to do with it.
    he told them , after arod, either you run it or I will, we both can’t.
    for all we know they hate each other and he bought part of Hank out.

  76. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    the problem is that there are a host of teams willing to go for it every year now….
    =========================
    and Cash will work for them someday..

  77. blake August 29th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    LGY,
    I agree on Montogomery….he a reliever….he can be rushed

  78. Pat M. August 29th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    LGY…….It was mentioned back before the winter meetings that one old timer scout told me that Montgomery would be a very fast mover in the Yanks system………I think the Yanks should try to do the 2002 K-Rod lightening in the bottle trick…….I agree with you get him up before the deadline date for playoff options

  79. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    one more game and this team will start to turn around…

  80. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    anyway im looking forward to kicking some oriole asp this weekend! kicking them while they were down just wasnt as fun as it was in the old days…

  81. blake August 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    The Yankees need another plus arm in their bullpen….if it’s not going to be Joba and they can’t trade for one then they should try Montgomery

  82. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Pat M -

    Who goes if they get Montgomery up here before Saturday? They are really down to the wire if they would want him around for the PS.

  83. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    What the Yanks have going wrong is fixable, soon. More than the RS can say.
    What they did during that 10 game winning streak can happen again and could come mid Sept.

  84. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    I’m sure guys up on Sept 1 are eligible for the PS.

  85. blake August 29th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    ChiSox are up 8-1 so it looks like they might help us there…..now if the Rangers can ralley

  86. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    .I agree with you get him up before the deadline date for playoff options

    With Mariano’s injury they can probably use the injury replacement rule to get anyone brought up in september or traded for in sept on the roster.

  87. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    I’m sure guys up on Sept 1 are eligible for the PS.

    Have to be on the active roster before Sept 1

  88. bruceb August 29th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Desperate times call for desperate measures. OK, so we’re not quite at desperation point yet, but when the rosters expand I hope we’ll see less of Jones and Co. and more of Nunez and Dickerson. Nunez can play a game or two at SS and let Jeter DH. I know they’re not the answer but this lineup needs a spark from someone – and soon.

  89. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    With Mariano’s injury they can probably use the injury replacement rule to get anyone brought up in september or traded for in sept on the roster.

    Have to be on the active roster before Sept 1
    ===================
    sounds contradictory

  90. LGY August 29th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    Who goes if they get Montgomery up here before Saturday? They are really down to the wire if they would want him around for the PS.

    - – - – - –

    I’d get rid of Eppley.

  91. mick August 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Why isn’t Joba in the minors getting work?

  92. Ys Guy August 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    joba could be that guy. he pitched well today, wouldve only given up one run if jones made the catch. give him another 7 innings and he’ll be a weapon.

  93. Jerkface August 29th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    sounds contradictory

    Guys brought up after August 31st need to use a loop hole to get on the post season roster, they are not eligible by default.

  94. Bret The Hitman August 29th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Orioles, Nationals, White Sox, Athletics, Pirates, Dodgers, Phillies.

    Biggest surprise?

  95. yankee21 August 29th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    NYY ownership/management put themselves into the positon they are in. It is on the GMs lap to fix it and for Hal to fund the fix. If Hal is unwilling to fund it, Cashman needs to adopt his ways and get creative, you know like 80% of all the other teams GMS have to do. If Cash can’t do it, he needs to go. Because ownership sure as hell isn’t going anywhere.

    The problem with Cash as I see it is not so much the 25 man roster but the 40 man. When you really have to depend on guys who are 30-35+ the main risk is keeping guys healthy and rested through the marathon. A key way to handle the injury fallout is the ready availability of minor league talent to help supplement the big club when injuries hit hard.

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    Bret-

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  115. blake August 29th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    “Maybe the Yankees should target Carlos Santana over Choo.”

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