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Rodriguez back; still no Granderson

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 03, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Eric Chavez 3B
Raul Ibanez LF
Russell Martin C
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Chris Dickerson CF

LHP CC Sabathia

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188 Responses to “Rodriguez back; still no Granderson”

  1. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 10:55 am

    these games are now playoff games..pitchers and hitters need to step up

  2. Ys Guy September 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am

    the names look better that way but with arod coming in cold as ice i dont think it actually is an improvement.

    i would like to have seen joe break arod in in the 6 or 7 hole, but ‘that’s not how it’s done’

    hopefully my theory about guys in their first day off the dl coming through holds up today.

  3. DONNYBROOK September 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am

    I believe Chavez will be the player having a great game. Seeing A-Rod back will give Chavez a shot-in-the-arm. He will know rest is dead-ahead.

  4. mykyl1 September 3rd, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Arod will strike out in his first at bat. The pressure starts to mount on his pea brain and gets worse and worse. This is one of the most unstable players in all of MLB. He is a choke artist like non other before him. He will let us all down as he has done a majority of his time in pinstrips. Tell me the last time he had a moment like Chipper Jones did last night? Why not put Cervelli behind the dish? OH CC the stud is going to fall on his fat lard butt today.
    Sorry but the past is the best way to predict the future. Arod is 100 percent going to do nothing to help this team going foward. Useless useless useless……

  5. beedogs September 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 am

    It still amazes and disgusts me that Russ Martin is on a major league ballclub.

  6. Captain Clutch September 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 am

    I knew that Girardi was going to bat Arod 4th but it really makes no sense. Cano isn’t going to see any pitches to hit until Arod starts hitting. I hope everyone isn’t expecting him to be some hero and solve the lineup issues. It’s probably going to take him 2-3 weeks to find his timing.

  7. beedogs September 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am

    in other words… just in time for him to watch the playoffs on TV.

  8. blake September 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Id hit Arod 4fh because they dont have anybodh else…..

  9. jr1212 September 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Having Arod back is not just about his production. Its also about everyone else goin back to their place. I believe mentally its a lift for the team and boy do they need it. Chavez the other day said he felt that he had to do something since Arod is gone. Hopefully they just play and dont think now

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 am

    So here’s my question. Do you think that there has ever really been an embedded anyone? Derek Lowe played at the height of the Yankee-Sux ‘hatred” of each other, at least in the recent iteration. Do you think it’s possible that he realizes he’s at the end of his career (he is 39) and is now going to take his opportunities at Sux payback?

    As bizarre as that sounds, it’s more bizarre to me that he managed one really great outing and then fell apart.

  11. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 am

    .235…34hrs…79rbi’s….this is what the Yankees are all about

  12. Benny Blanco September 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am

    235 is just awful. I would take 265 from grandy.

  13. Triple Short of a Cycle September 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am

    235 is just awful. I would take 265 from grandy.

    ——————————

    Somehow is poor season should be attributed to injuries according to some on here.

  14. Tabbert September 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Granderson better be injured to not be in the lineup again during a pennant chase. Spare me the ” precaution” Joe. The dude missed crucial games vs the orioles and now is out of the lineup vs another division rival with our lead diminishing. That might sound harsh, but these are massive games he is missing. He wasn’t even available to play in the DH spot? I don’t know why i am so upset… Granderson has been sucking anyways.

  15. jacksquat September 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Ys Guy September 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
    the day after tomorrow someones gonna rip girardi for leaving the stiff 4A scrub dickerson in to whiff in a big situation when he should have pinch hit jones.

    Jones is hitting .143 with a .461 OPS since the AS break. He should pinch hit for no one.

  16. Captain Clutch September 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 am

    I agree that getting Arod back is big for the team. But opposing managers aren’t stupid they know that it’s not the real Arod. They will pitch around guys to get to him in big spots. But I guess it will find him anywhere in the lineup. Just like it always finds Martin.

  17. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Swisher 8rbi’s in the last 14 ganes..must be getting near playoff time

  18. randy l. September 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 am

    “Do you think that there has ever really been an embedded anyone? Derek Lowe played at the height of the Yankee-Sux ‘hatred” of each other, at least in the recent iteration. Do you think it’s possible that he realizes he’s at the end of his career (he is 39) and is now going to take his opportunities at Sux payback?”

    players except in really rare exceptions do not care about teams.

    they care about friends they had and enemies they made.

    to illustrate, i learned quickly to never talk about liking the yankees when i worked for clete boyer while he was the yankee bench coach and when i was 5 lockers down from graig nettles. players look at rooting for a team as amateurish and unprofessional.

    one way to never get a baseball job is to be a fan.

    to be honest ppalyers tolerate fans. baseball is a business to them. someone like derek lowe cares about his paycheck and could care less about the red sox. he would like nothing better than to do well with the yankees and trick someone into giving him another million or so next year.

  19. jacksquat September 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am

    I knew knucklehead Girardi would DH Arod today. It was his wrist, not his legs. The wrist is ready or it’s not. If he can swing a bat he can play 3B. Now we have f’ing Ibanez in the OF again.

    I can’t wait until the day he is no longer the manager.

  20. Triple Short of a Cycle September 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Swisher 8rbi’s in the last 14 ganes..must be getting near playoff time

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    From what he has given us in the playoffs that would be an upgrade

  21. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 am

    I know it’s not what he’s about but 43 more K’s than hits..WOW!!!

  22. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle September 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
    Swisher 8rbi’s in the last 14 ganes..must be getting near playoff time

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    From what he has given us in the playoffs that would be an upgrade
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    5of those RBI’s have come in two games

  23. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Don’t expect much from Arod..Big Game might eat him up

  24. jacksquat September 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Sorry, .134 for Jones, not .143. :roll:

  25. G. Love September 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 am

    As much I’m nervous about Arod’s timing being off for awhile, I’m proud of him for getting back as fast as he did. When he took that pitch off his hand in Seattle I didn’t think we’d see him again this season let alone September 3rd. Hopefully, that will inspire something in this group.

    I really wish we could have Nunez and Dickerson in the lineup together, but I also think Chavez needs to hit and we’re running out of spots to get people in the lineup.

    Every game is huge now. I’d love for us to know Tampa out of the wild card race so we don’t have to see their pitching in the playoffs, but right now I’m more concerned with them and the Orioles not knocking us out of the playoffs.

    Arod is a sight for sore eyes. He always hits well in Tampa. Let’s hope it continues today.

  26. Tabbert September 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Why do people say that this is not the ” real arod”. No… This is the REAL arod. A old, no longer elite, Big Name, player. LOL.

  27. Tabbert September 3rd, 2012 at 11:40 am

    The Oakland A’s would be in first place in the AL EAST. Pretty crazy how they just continue to play at such a high level.

  28. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Cano….in the month of Aug..4hrs ..2 in one game and a grand total of 12rbi’s…it’s the same thing with this team over and over again…no hrs = no runs

  29. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Tabbert September 3rd, 2012 at 11:40 am
    The Oakland A’s would be in first place in the AL EAST. Pretty crazy how they just continue to play at such a high level.
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    great SPing and timely hitting

  30. Tabbert September 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 am

    This has always been a all or nothing offense from the start. The problem is…. we need Tex, Arod, Grandy, Pettitte back. No one complained about the offense when we when complete beast mode for most of the summer. Ever since Sabathia’s first DL stint… yanks have been dropping like flies. Just about everyone has been hurt.,

  31. J. Alfred Prufrock September 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Against All Odds September 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am

    jr1212 said: I agree that the team needs offensive upgrade but trading Cano is not gonna help. You want to build around him not trade him.

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    Exactly you import bats and take pressure of him. Cano is either playing through any injury or trying way to hard. He has to understand he’s in a good position when the pitcher is on the ropes.
    ///

    jr1212: I would have thought viewing Cano as a player you build around rather than trade did not need emphasizing, but considering some of the calls to move him, perhaps stating the obvious is indeed in order. I agree! Trade a 30 year old up-the-middle IF with hit tool/LH power, who also probably goes down as one of the greatest 2B in MLB history and who looks like he will age well…that makes a helluva lot of sense to me.

    Odds: I’ve wondered, too, if Cano’s alright. He got hit on the hands or wrist a while back, maybe he’s compromised. Could also be taxed, he plays a lot. With Nunez around, give Cano a blow at 2B. Other option is bringing up Adams, good vs LHP and available to relieve at 3B and 2B.

  32. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:48 am

    lot was said thru the year about how the Yankees only score via the hr..taken up by the sports writers with the manager a few times…with him saying we will start to hit with risp..it hasn’t happened

  33. J2L September 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 am

    I’m a righty, Joe !

  34. Locke September 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 am

    ARod broke his hand and then fought to get back here. He’s a real competitor – I hope he has a great game.

    It’s pretty annoying to see new “members” in the comments section as soon as things look grim who want to complain and whine.

    We are all lucky to be fans of one of the greatest games and teams ever. Let’s enjoy it. Go Yankees!

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock September 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 am

    blake September 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 am

    They have to stop.pitching Lowe unless the game is totally over……he just cant get anybody out…..
    ///

    Yes, he’s garbage time or not at all.

    If you were in here at all during Phelps’ start, you may have heard a couple voices here exhorting for Lowe, as a starter over Phelps, for the latter’s “veteran presence.” You cannot make this stuff up.

  36. J. Alfred Prufrock September 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 am

    It’s pretty annoying to see new “members” in the comments section as soon as things look grim who want to complain and whine.
    ///

    Yeah, I know whatcha mean. Not like there are any Yankee fans outside of Lohud who exist or have a right to express their concerns about THEIR team on a comments board. The noive.

  37. rm September 3rd, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Having A-Rod back is a great thing. I hope he HRs on the first pitch he sees like he did when he first came back from his Hip surgery.

    There is too much negativity on this board. The Yankees are still in fist place and they are begining to get their injured players back. Its time to start opening up a big lead and getting ready for the playoffs,

  38. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 11:53 am

    it’s a case of you say what you see..win or lose

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock September 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am

    The board is full of smart people who well consider what they post, for the most part. These people do not deserve to be “called out” like some grade school recess BS for intelligently expressing their concerns.

    If you ask me, the so-called “positive” people (some of them) are far more brazenly rude, intolerant, and back barely anything they say up. They just dumb down the board and draw people into their ego parade.

    Later.

  40. Tabbert September 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am

    How about this theory: Everything is fine. Once The Yankees are at full health in the lineup and with starting pitching, they will play like the best team in baseball again. People seem to be shocked that a glorified triple A team has been losing. Just because the uniform says New York on it, doesn’t mean its the Yankees. We have numerous Minor leaguers and platoon guys playing in the spot of Star players for weeks. Pettitte is the guy the Yankees miss the most. Ever since he went down… This team lost its ” Beast Mode” ways.

  41. Cashmoney September 3rd, 2012 at 11:55 am

    jap, the question is how long can you rely on Cano to give you prime production. He is a borderline franchise player to me. he be 31 or 32 when the next extension comes around… just in examine any would be FA, the thought process normally start with how long can that player be productive? do we have any replacement if the said player does leave. can the said player bring a haul that justify in letting him go. obviously, the dif comes with the subjectivity in the evaluation process.

  42. G. Love September 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 am

    JAP-

    Something up is Cano physically or mentally. He’s not himself at the plate. We see flashes of it, but to see his RBI total this low and to see some of the swings, I would be he’s nursing something. You’re not really seeing him hit his patented line drive height lasers. Everything is either very high in the air or into the ground.

    Talk of trading his is silly. I either think he’s nursing something or he’s just not comfortable being put in an RBI position this year. Frankly, none of the Yankees seem comfortable being in RBI positions this year.

  43. krs September 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Red Sox 2011 here we come……

  44. Madrugador September 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am

    It is hard to look at this team at the moment considering they were so far ahead of everyone else at one point this season. Certainly injuries have taken their toll but which team is the real Yankeees, the one that was 10 games ahead of the nearest competitior or the one that is hanging on by a thread?

  45. Against All Odds September 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Odds: I’ve wondered, too, if Cano’s alright. He got hit on the hands or wrist a while back, maybe he’s compromised. Could also be taxed, he plays a lot. With Nunez around, give Cano a blow at 2B. Other option is bringing up Adams, good vs LHP and available to relieve at 3B and 2B.

    ——————————-

    A day off could do him some wonders and the Yankees have options. Although if he is hurt he’ll probably just have to play through it anyway. There is no way he could be this bad w/o something going on.

  46. Locke September 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Yeah, I know whatcha mean. Not like there are any Yankee fans outside of Lohud who exist or have a right to express their concerns about THEIR team on a comments board. The noive.

    ——-

    Of course they can express their concerns, but it seems like 90% of the new names just want to complain. What’s the point of watching a sport if all it does is piss us off? It’s supposed to be fun.

  47. Hassey September 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Cano and Longoria to both have big games today at the plate…my local gypsie sees no pitching duels in our immediate future

  48. GregD September 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    lots of doomsday here this morning

  49. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    Locke September 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
    Yeah, I know whatcha mean. Not like there are any Yankee fans outside of Lohud who exist or have a right to express their concerns about THEIR team on a comments board. The noive.

    ——-

    Of course they can express their concerns, but it seems like 90% of the new names just want to complain. What’s the point of watching a sport if all it does is piss us off? It’s supposed to be fun.
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    are you as new as me

  50. Tabbert September 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    Cano has a track record of playing almost every game of the season and putting up monster numbers. Also… injuries don’t explain why he is chasing balls 5 feet out of the zone. The guy has something going on mentally. That or… he is just having a ” down year” by his standards. Maybe he is really depressed about melky? Who knows. But.. i highly doubt he is injured, nor do i think the time played is the reason for his recent slide.

  51. joeman September 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    losing puts everyone in a bad mood…players

  52. austinmac September 3rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Granderdon has incredibly bad numbers against Shields. He doesn’t need to test his leg today.

  53. Tabbert September 3rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    I don’t buy the notion that sports are just suppose to be ” fun”. Playing them.. Yes. But, to invest your time, money, and 8 months of the year into a Pro Team is different. There is always ups and downs. You should be livid when your teams loses and you should be thrilled when they win. To me that’s part of the addiction of watching sports. You know going into it that your going to be pissed off a lot and you also know that your going to be thrilled a lot. That’s the life of a sports fan. That’s not to say that one should have realistic expectations and perspective. At the end of the day… this is just a game and the Yankees aren’t going to win every year.

  54. OldSchoolYankeeFan September 3rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    There is a month left in the season, no reason to panic. I think the players are pissed off and what A-Rod does or doesn’t do won’t determine whether we win the division or not. Most of you here know the history of the team and know there’ve been many close pennant races that were won by the team. I spent the weekend watching the A’s kick the Sux ass and it was clear the players on that team have given up, with the exception of Ellsbury, he played hard. I see none of that on our team, don’t see bandwagon Yankees fans either.

  55. deleonj September 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Great post. All these “Yankees Fans” are the most pessimistic people on earth. They only come out when the yankees are losing. They guy came back from an injury fast and is ready to help this team win. Stop whining.
    It’s 162 games. Not 100. Not 120. Not 140. Injuries happen and managers and players sometimes make questionable decisions. There are many games left and the Yankees can still prove why they are a playoffs team.

    Let’s go Yanks!

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    Locke September 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
    ARod broke his hand and then fought to get back here. He’s a real competitor – I hope he has a great game.

    It’s pretty annoying to see new “members” in the comments section as soon as things look grim who want to complain and whine.

    We are all lucky to be fans of one of the greatest games and teams ever. Let’s enjoy it. Go Yankees!

  56. austinmac September 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Players are not embedded with other teams. Was Lowe embedded with the Indians too. He is old and no good. Another released player pickup.

  57. Locke September 3rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Of course they can express their concerns, but it seems like 90% of the new names just want to complain. What’s the point of watching a sport if all it does is piss us off? It’s supposed to be fun.
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    are you as new as me

    ——

    Touché.

    I’m definitely more of a reader than a writer but I probably post something about once a week.

    I won’t get all hot and bothered by the gloom. I’ll just go watch some baseball.

  58. J. Alfred Prufrock September 3rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Cashmoney September 3rd, 2012 at 11:55 am

    jap, the question is how long can you rely on Cano to give you prime production. He is a borderline franchise player to me. he be 31 or 32 when the next extension comes around… just in examine any would be FA, the thought process normally start with how long can that player be productive? do we have any replacement if the said player does leave. can the said player bring a haul that justify in letting him go. obviously, the dif comes with the subjectivity in the evaluation process.
    ///

    I don’t think Cano is a typical 30 year old (I believe he’s still 29, but to your point re extension period).

    I don’t see Cano as a guy whose plate or defender skills are going to erode swiftly. He’s got to be the most effortlessly skilled played I’ve seen on this team in years. I don’t trade a 2B with his kind of power and hitting ability, and with a glove like that. He’s the player on this team who is untouchable, for me. How can we part with him? If he were 34 years old, I might consider what you’re saying, but he’s the one truly exceptional player in the lineup with more future than past to be enjoyed. I just think talk of trading our one super elite all-around player is insane.

  59. J. Alfred Prufrock September 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    G. Love September 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 am

    JAP-

    Something up is Cano physically or mentally. He’s not himself at the plate. We see flashes of it, but to see his RBI total this low and to see some of the swings, I would be he’s nursing something. You’re not really seeing him hit his patented line drive height lasers. Everything is either very high in the air or into the ground.

    Talk of trading his is silly. I either think he’s nursing something or he’s just not comfortable being put in an RBI position this year. Frankly, none of the Yankees seem comfortable being in RBI positions this year.
    ///

    Yeah, he does not look right to me either. And silly is the word for the idea of trading him, I agree. The LDs have dried up and he is just jumpy at the plate. I do think, too, a mitigating factor is lack of protection (despite claims that there is no such thing). He’s an aggressive hitter and he’s become more anxious without the support, rather than being more discriminating, because he knows he’s supposed to be the man. He is the man, and everybody knows it. Though rival managers give lip service to “that lineup” the same guys say what is obvious: “the guy you really worry about in that lineup is Robinson Cano.” He needs some help, and you know I feel part of the solution is now in Seattle. It would have helped if Granderson had not gotten himself into such an all or nothing rut this season.

  60. rm September 3rd, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    . Alfred Prufrock September 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
    The board is full of smart people who well consider what they post, for the most part. These people do not deserve to be “called out” like some grade school recess BS for intelligently expressing their concerns.

    If you ask me, the so-called “positive” people (some of them) are far more brazenly rude, intolerant, and back barely anything they say up. They just dumb down the board and draw people into their ego parade.

    Later.
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    JAP,

  61. rm September 3rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Alfred Prufrock September 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
    The board is full of smart people who well consider what they post, for the most part. These people do not deserve to be “called out” like some grade school recess BS for intelligently expressing their concerns.

    If you ask me, the so-called “positive” people (some of them) are far more brazenly rude, intolerant, and back barely anything they say up. They just dumb down the board and draw people into their ego parade.

    Later.
    ———————————————-

    JAP,

    I’m sorry if my positive posts upset you. I actually quite enjoy most of youe posts. But I think even you have to admit the posts that say:

    Arod will strike out in his first at bat. The pressure starts to mount on his pea brain and gets worse and worse.

    Are not smart people whe consider what they post.

  62. Cashmoney September 3rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Jap, the dif comes down to projection. I will take the side caution and let him walk if he wants more than 6-7 at rod’s AVV. but the whole thing comes down how the Yanks plan to construct their rost going forward, just an opinion here.

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