Hughes delivers; Yankees remain tied for first
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 13, 2012 
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In his career, Phil Hughes has been worse at Fenway Park than at any other stadium in the big leagues. Tonight, he was at his very best. Hughes delivered 7.1 scoreless innings and pitched the Yankees to a 2-0 win that kept them tied with Baltimore at the top of the American League East. Derek Jeter pulled into a tie with Willie Mays for 10th on the all-time hits list with an RBI single in the seventh. Andruw Jones drove in the only other Yankees run with a sacrifice fly. Otherwise, the game was all about pitching, and Hughes lowered his ERA to 3.96 while striking out seven and walking one.
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This could be the start of something.
Hughes! way to go #15.
2 in a row! one more and thats a winning streak.
still in first and 4 up on the Rays.
Eh, he’s an OK 5th starter.
Untuck and exhale!!!! Congrats to Hughesie…15th win…3.97 era
AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!!!!
As goes the pitching, so goes this team. Book it.
I have never been a Phil Hughes hater and I have always believed he would turn it around.
How’s that for proof? ERA under 4? The kid is putting everything together and it’s a sight to see. Sure, the Red Sox aren’t high-powered… but he shut them down. MLB hitters are never easy to pitch against and he made them look foolish.
“The binder” is underrated!
Igotid has to feel like a proud papa!
Untuck!
C’mon Yankees!
Pat M. says: September 13, 2012 at 10:20 pm
LGY….What’s a Fip ????
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http://www.fangraphs.com/libra.....ching/fip/
Very good start from Hughes, and no home runs, I especially like that part. Got to give him credit for pitching big in a pretty big game.
And Nunez obviously can play!
I love Derek.
Let’s try to extend Phil for a $7-8 million AAV deal asap…. does anyone know what his max arb would be?
“Eh, he’s an OK 5th starter.”
his ERA is close to the average #2 starter in the AL and better than the average AL #3 starter.
No homerun, RISP, game won, shut out.
For me, this is Yankee baseball at its best.
Give me a low-scoring game 24-7 and twice on Sundays.
Take 2 of 3 from the rays & they are on the verge of golfing!
Pat M
Link to Hughes’ fangraphs page
http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....position=P
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 13th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Igotid has to feel like a proud papa!
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It was more like let him pitch. This isn’t the first time he’s come up big for us. Always said he needed at least 2 full seasons. Most pitchers need 3 or 4.
“Let’s try to extend Phil for a $7-8 million AAV deal asap…. does anyone know what his max arb would be?”
if he finishes strong they should consider offering him 3 years at that money and see if he takes the security.
CC has to step up tomorrow and Nunez needs to be in the lineup.
that’s two straight starts where Hughes has pitched in games where the Yankees really needed a win and he’s come through big both times.
Nunez earned another start against Price tomorrow as well.
Time to take 2 of 3 from the rays, and for the A’s to sweep… or at worst take 2 of 3 from the orioles!
Watch a ton of exciting college football
Watch a ton of exciting NFL games.
Take a 1+ game lead in the East in to our off day monday. Then Pettitte Returns to the rotation tuesday.
Sounds like a perfect weekend plan.
yea Nunie did good….I agree…play him again.
Can’t imagine what it’s like to go through watching every Yankee game scared to death. My heart really goes out to those posters because nobody would choose to do it that way.
Team Greedy would like to see more offense but right now, we’ll take good pitching and ugly wins too!
YS – The Rays do still have at least 3 games left against the O’s.. there’s a good chance they stay close to them for the duration. I hope they beat the hell out of each other. In this case I think you and I are on Team No Preference (For Fear of Jinxes!).
Definitely like the 4 game cushion on the Rays…. this weekend is a real chance to put them away.
Blake, its a Pennant race. Dollars don’t count now. Nobody gives a crap about contracts. It’s win or go away.
Phil won.
Good pitching. Hopefully Granderson will be able to reverse his downward trend vs the Rays and the Maddon shift in YS this weekend.
Need to put the Rays away this weekend.
blake – Yes.
bruce – Yes.
Nunez – Good.
Great game for Hughes. What all the Phil haters saying today?
And then there’s the JIS or Jeter independant scoring, which is 0 for 30 or something.
“Blake, its a Pennant race. Dollars don’t count now. Nobody gives a crap about contracts. It’s win or go away. ”
uhm ok….
And Sori has 37 saves out of 40 and people don’t breathe through his pitching?
SMH
Granderson can’t hit a lefty to save his life again.
Price missed a start so it’s probably important for the Yankees to jump on him early tomorrow before he settles in-he most likely won’t come out throwing 97 or 98 like he did the last time against the Yankees in Tampa.
This is a tough weekend for the Yankees, Shields has pitched great lately but a big game from the Big Man tomorrow would go a long way towards them winning the series and most likely being alone in 1st place on Monday.
Price vs CC
Shields vs Nova
Moore vs Kuroda
blake-
It seems like his approach has totally changed from what made him pretty good again against leftys. It’s hard to believe that he was a 20 double/20 triple/20 steal guy. Now he’s a homer or a strikeout.
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 13th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
And Sori has 37 saves out of 40 and people don’t breathe through his pitching?
SMH
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I’ve been watching Sori as our closer for one season… I’ve been watching Mo for 17. It’s an adjustment period for some of us lol, can’t help it. Trust built over 17 years is a tough act to follow.
YS – I asked about Hughes lol, I like to talk about ALL things Yankee related, but by all means continue celebrating tonights win – I assure you I’m happy about it too! Again, I love Derek. He and Hughes are the story of tonights game.
I’m with you shane! Watching this afternoon’s game I was rooting for more innings, more pitches & more turned ankles (cantos root for actual injuries).
But now the rays are in, head to head & 2 of 3 would really put a hurt on maddons boys.
Let’s go A’s!
“I’ve been watching Sori as our closer for one season… I’ve been watching Mo for 17. It’s an adjustment”
Shame – point very well taken.
Tyler,
Grandy just doesn’t seem to be letting the ball travel against lefties at all…….
And then there’s the JIS or Jeter independant scoring, which is 0 for 30 or something.
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LMAO
Also Hughes hasn’t perfected the change or the slider which he is throwing again.
The Yanks need Sabathia to be Sabathia tomorrow….they need it for the game but they also just need it in general….they need him to start going in the right direction. The offense will have their hands full with Price….they usually hit Price pretty good…..but this is the normal Yankee offense so CC is going to have to pitch well.
blake-
His swing looks long to me also. He just doesn’t look comfortable.
LGY…..Really interesting stuff, complicated yet very deep analysis…..Especially when you look at the different era’s of time, such as the 60′s compared to the 90′s……..I’m in, although it’ll take time for me to fully understand it…..Thank’s
A well-pitched game by both teams, won by the Yankees, and 80% of the game thread posts were demeaning this Yank, that Yank, and the other Yank. Just don’t understand. At any rate, I enjoyed the game, and especially the outcome. It was pennant race baseball, and the Yankees came through. Excelsior! See you in the morning.
Anybody hear from gb-7 ???
Seriously…WILLIE FREAKIN MAYS!!!
Great – love seeing the ERA under 4. And I love seeing Jeter come through, despite his injury.
yea when you tie Willie Mays at anything that’s pretty incredible.
tom, please be around to interact in these next games. I was going to say I would give anything to have someone else on the thread who didn’t worry her or his way through the game, didn’t wish for something that wasn’t happening, didn’t complain about things or ask a million “why is this” and “what is that’s” – and then I realized that you and Ys Guy basically are those people. I know we’re in the minority so we need to stick together.
It’s a lonely place otherwise.
Not casting aspersions on those who do otherwise – though on a constant basis it is sickening – just saying that it’s not my style. I live to enjoy these games and manage to do it quite well. But on a game thread it’s not fun doing it alone.
Grandy really looks like he’s forgotten all the stuff he learned from K Long. Maybe he needs a few remedial sessions.
LGY September 13th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
And then there’s the JIS or Jeter independant scoring, which is 0 for 30 or something.
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LMAO
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Let’s start keeping track of this lol..
We’ll never see Nunez in any defensive role thats not SS, right?
Tyler and Blake-
The shift vs Granderson has pretty much prevented any groundball that he hits on the ground between 1st and 2nd to be an out. Can’t seem to solve the offspeed inside stuff from the righties, and is flailing on outdie corner pitches from lefties.
His two homers last night were on a 91 mph fastball and a 93 mph fastball over the middle of the plate from righties Cook and Aceves.
I fear GB7 has embarked on a new mission, but when he returns, watch out.
keithlaw ?@keithlaw
I saw Josh Beckett pitch a number of times in Fenway. This version looks like the Red Sox faxed him to LA on a bad phone line
blake September 13th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
“Eh, he’s an OK 5th starter.”
his ERA is close to the average #2 starter in the AL and better than the average AL #3 starter.
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When you consider what he’s given the team since June, he’s having a very good season, better than ’10 by far.
I also believe he can keep getting better.
Meant to say that any ground ball Grandy hits vs the shift is an out.
Trader-
Great point about the shift. That definitely has taken away hits and is probably in his head.
It would be interesting to go watch tape of him in ’06 when he had a pretty good all around year for the Tigers. He was a 20 triple guy back then. He’s nowhere near that same type of hitter these days. That guy would be perfect for this team.
Phillies winning again. If LA beats St. Louis they could be 2 out lol.
Trader,
Yea….he just doesn’t look like he’s seeing the ball….he’s not letting it travel into the zone vs lefties…he’s starting early and then has no chance against anything offspeed.
Price skipped his last start with I think a little shoulder soreness, so maybe he’ll not be 100%. The Yankees have had some success off him also even when he’s been otherwise pitching well.
Tyler September 13th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Trader-
Great point about the shift. That definitely has taken away hits and is probably in his head.
It would be interesting to go watch tape of him in ’06 when he had a pretty good all around year for the Tigers. He was a 20 triple guy back then. He’s nowhere near that same type of hitter these days. That guy would be perfect for this team.
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I would also love a Grandy that was 6 years younger lol!
Sharing a NY Times article just written a few hours ago:
History Shows Relying on Power Is Not a Weakness
By TYLER KEPNER
Enjoy
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09.....kness.html
ron September 13th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Anybody hear from gb-7 ???
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It’s been a long time
Whoever said we need to jump on Price early tomorrow has the right idea.. he’s had a longer layoff and might not have great control to start off the game considering how fast he throws.
RadioKev September 13th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Eh, he’s an OK 5th starter.
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Solid mid rotation guy
“The Yankees have had some success off him also even when he’s been otherwise pitching well.”
true….but that was when they had Tex….when Cano could hit lefties….when Granderson could hit lefties….and when Jones could hit at all. Hopefully he’s not 100% though and they can get to him
O’s guaranteed first non-losing season since ’97. I don’t care for him but I think Buck is getting manager of the year.
Hughes has 3 more starts. Would have been 4 if he had gone on Tuesday on regular rest. But Pettitte’s pitching that day. 2 vs Toronto and 1 vs the Twins. It will be his 5th and 6th starts against the Jays. Tough facing a team that many times. I wouldn’t be surprised if he only won 1. But he should be able to get 3 wins.
Hopefully that Kepner article renews some faith, that should the Yankees make the postseason, maybe, just maybe………………………………things will be allright!
Good night all.
See ya at breakfast.
Granderson’s problem is much more lack of contact than the shift. He misses pitches right down the middle.
Hughes hit his spots tonight. I love when pitchers pitch to the inside, upper part of the plate. It is hard to hit and sets up the outer part. He did that very well. He didn’t miss resulting in homers. That’s the difference.
I sure would like some runs. Tampa Bay is going to be no easy run scoring job, that’s for sure.
Jonesy walked twice and hit a sac fly. I must admit he produced a bit.
Who’s playing Kevin Rudolf lol…I’m guessing Swish. Or Ichiro.
Shame-
Yeah no kidding with Grandy. It’s not like he should have fallen off a cliff age wise though.
Hughes in the same amount of innings in 2010 and 2012. Some things better. Some worse
2010
W L E.R.A. G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HBP BB IBB K AVG WHIP
18 8 4.19 31 29 0 0 176.1 162 83 82 25 0 58 1 146 .244 1.25
2012
15 12 3.96 29 29 1 0 175 178 88 77 33 4 40 0 148 .260 1.26
Interesting Hughes stat comparison. This year he is happily trending in the right direction.
Nunez better get more playing time. Dude can hit. Even if he has to play the field. He can get on base and has nice speed.
a productive night for andruw. At the very least he knows how to hit sac fly to right to score the runner and move runners from 2nd to 3rd. It will be difficult to play nix over nunez now as a dh or ss.
I really feel Grandy’s issues are just mechanical. And because of that should be fixable (where are you K Long? ).
An example in first AB—Yes showed him striking out in slo-mo. You can clearly see him moving his bat back as the ball is half way to home plate, that’s Little League stuff. When he was going good, it was like a cat pouncing at the ball. Everything going foward. Come on KLong get it right because times running out.
Good evening again,
Excellent outing from master Hughes. The few innings I saw were amazing. he had an excellent FB, but he threw a couple of great CU’s in those innings and the slider was breaking down very well. The CB still needs some work, but he certainly is evolving in front of our eyes. I am a believer.
The offense, from what I saw the bases loaded and nobody out inning, they were very unlucky, Jones went the other way with authority but right at Ross and Grandy scorched a linedrive toward the 1 baseman. The Nunez on third and one out, they should have found a way to score him, but well it happens. Nunez bring a different dimension to the offense ( high contact and speed which I think is sorely needed ).
All in all a great yankee win. Hughes is the real deal, and with 4 pitches in his arsenal he will be complete.
he’s starting early and then has no chance against anything offspeed.
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And this from a player that probably has the fastest hands on the team.
I swear that simplified version of OPS, which is all about slugging is killing baseball. Bloody Rob Deer level of competition. Some Nerdimer postulated and everyone bought in. This isn’t baseball, it’s some version of hackeysack err/ball, err object. Aah Swish#%^*.
Nunez can really run. That is such a nice option. I expect to see him again at short tomorrow. Jeter looked pretty hobbled. He should be sitting for a week or more. He is a tough guy.
Tar,
As usual great insight. But i think this is more on Grandy than on Long. His swing has become too long again and with too many moving parts. It’s like his tendencies are taking over, instead of trying to compact that swing of his.
We need Jeter in there vs. Price. He can sit vs. Shields if he needs a day.
Swisher’s last at bat, he swung so hard, he gave himself a wedgie. How else do you explain that expression? Reverse puberty?
Bo
I was going to use one testes ascending but this is a public forum.
Hughes is figuring it out,right before our eyes.
He doesn’t have many innings at all,considering he came up in what,2007?,and he is 26 + 3 months old.
He is learning how to pitch,and developing his offspeed stuff.
He is going to be nasty.
Yankees should extend him now.
5 years,40-50 million.
Tar…..Curtis has developed an ever growing hitch
Tar…..Curtis has developed an ever growing hitch
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Yep, bad hitch in his getalong.
Instead,the yankees will wait too long,and either lose hughes,or pay him 15 million a year,or more,for way too many years because the dodgers,rangers,rs will be fighting for him.
Luis
Thanks I just want it fixed. It’s Klong’s job to fix swings that have problems. I’m getting impatient because I don’t think it should be that difficult.
If you have it recorded go back to his first ab, his hands move back like 3 or 4 inches and the ball is half way home. No way he’s going to catch up to Major League pitching like that.
This forum is testy enough as is it.
Pat M
He sure has. Any idea why they are having such a hard time fixing it?
Bobby V keepin’ it classy…
“Bryan Hoch ?@BryanHoch
Bobby V. wasn’t that impressed with Phil Hughes. Said that Hughes pitched up in the zone and Red Sox just had “immature” approach vs. him.”
Well it was better than my first choice – sucking slough water through his nether aperture.
You’re giving Swish some great song ideas for his next iTunes charity record.
Bo
Thanks I just spit beer on my screen.
Okay, I’ll stop now.
It’s almost a new swear word – You Swish – with various degrees of interpretation.
Tar,
I will do so….But i meant it, like when you noticed that Hughes was tipping his pitches from the stretch…That takes a keen eye my friend.
I am desperate as well with Granderson and others. I just think that Bo has a very good point, they are trying to hit the cover of the baseball, instead of trying to make solid contact with the ball. But I will check it out on the video.
Tarheel in NYC,
Bobby V classy? maybe when he is asleep.
now cc has to make sure a complete game win against the rays.
Tar…..Guys get into hitching their swings in an attempt to find their timing and get into a groove……I developed a hitch when making the move up to AA trying to find my way to hitting better fastballs …..Had a few good games and then it was o’fers for 5-6 games…..Cox kept me in a cage for several hours after an afternoon game to break away from it…….Willie Mays had a hitch much like a stickball hitter does, but then again that was Willie Mays
*cover off the baseball* should say.
One more thing…Tendencies are very tough to get rid off, and players return to them as soon as they start to struggle… Or in Swisher’s case, when he is in a high leverage situation. He is a good baseball player, but he could be so much better at it that it is mind boggling.
Anyway, it’s been a very long day…So I bid you all a very good night
Thanks Pat M. I really appreciate the insight.
Good night Luis
Phil Hughes is 14-8 with a 3.46 ERA since May 6. Why do so many Yankees fans still rip him & call him overrated? He’s a solid No. 3 starter.
12 minutes ago
Blogging Bombers.
A guy that gets undeserved criticism is A-rod. Sure he is overpaid. Sure most of you don’t like him. You are complaining about guys like Granderson and Swisher swinging for the fences. So don’t complain when A-rod makes contact and gets a single. I don’t care if he isn’t hitting 40 hr anymore. He is getting on base for us. Granderson will hit 40 hr but give me A-rod and his .355 obp. This team doesn’t need to hit anymore homeruns. Not to mention, he is leading the team in stolen bases while only getting caught once.
Kevin Long is to blame for the swing to the fences upper cut mentality.I have stated this many time.Mark texiera had a nice swing before comeing to the yanks.Doesn’t any remember jeter had to go back to his old hitting coach.Canoe had to ask his father for help. Even Gardner started to upper cut it.