Game 146: Yankees vs. Rays
Yankees lineup
1. Derek Jeter DH
2. Nick Swisher RF
3. Alex Rodriguez 3B
4. Robinson Cano 2B
5. Russell Martin C
6. Andruw Jones LF
7. Curtis Granderson CF
8. Steve Pearce 1B
9. Eduardo Nunez SS
Hiroki Kuroda P
Rays lineup
1. Desmond Jennings LF
2. Ben Zobrist SS
3. Evan Longoria 3B
4. Matt Joyce DH
5. B.J. Upton CF
6. Luke Scott 1B
7. Jeff Keppinger 2B
8. Sam Fuld RF
9. Jose Lobaton C
Matt Moore P
TV/Radio: YES/WCBS 880
Umpires: Paul Emmel HP, Jerry Meals 1B, Scott Barry 2B, Gary Darling 3B
Weather: 72 degrees, partly cloudy
12 times four: The Yankees now have four pitchers with at least 12 wins, including Kuroda, CC Sabathia, Phil Hughes and Ivan Nova, the first time that’s happened with their staff since 2003 when Roger Clemens, Mike Mussina, Andy Pettitte and David Wells were the quartet.
Grandy HR watch: Curtis Granderson needs one more homer to become the first Yankees outfielder with back-to-back 40-homer seasons since Mickey Mantle did it in 1960 and 1961. Granderson owns five homers over his last six games. Seven of his last 12 hits have come in the form of homers. He’s batting just .234 and has struck out 174 times, but he also has 92 RBI.
Update, 1:21: Impressive first for Kuroda, fans the side, albeit with a double mixed in. Now let’s see if the Yankees can score some runs for him.
Update, 1:29: Moore matches Kuroda, fans the side, too, albeit with a walk mixed in.
Update, 1:37: Making contact is difficult so far. Kuroda fans the side again, six strikeouts in two innings. His season high is 11.
Update, 1:40: After the first nine outs were on Ks, Martin manages to fly to left.
Update, 1:47: Pearce goes down swinging, stranding Jones at second. Moore looks tough so far, power lefty but with good off-speed stuff.
Update, 1:53: Only 1 K for Kuroda in the third, but still a 1-2-3 inning. He’s retired eight straight.
Update, 2:03: Jeter RBI single (one hit from 200), second on throw, third on Swisher sac.
Update, 2:09: A-Rod RBI single, 10 RBI in 13 games since his return.
Update, 2:16: Martin three-run HR, then Moore has Granderson ducking to get out of the way of a pitch. Plate ump Paul Emmel warns both sides. Joe Maddon yells out “You’re wrong,” and finally gets tossed. Anyway it’s 5-0. So much for the rookie Moore looking tough.
Update, 2:26: Kuroda finally gets some run support, but he gives one back, Zobrist blast to the right-center seats.
Update, 2:31: Moore is out after three, Brandon Gomes is on.
Update, 2:34: Nunez gets on to start the inning for the second straight time, steals second for the second straight time. Now he’s stolen third. If only you didn’t have to hold your breath on every ball hit to him. Maybe he’ll improve.
Update, 2:39: A-Rod sac fly to the wall in right-center, 6-1 in the fourth.
Update, 2:41: Cano gets gift double. That killer sun for the left fielders here. Easy fly ball falls. Jennings doesn’t touch it. But Martin grounds out to end the inning.
Update, 2:48: 1-2-3 fifth for Kuroda, now retired six straight. 9 Ks so far. Fuld got hurt on the final out running to first. Ben Francisco on to play right.
Update, 2:52: Wilson Ramos on to pitch after Jones fans to start the fifth. Jones is batting under. 200.
Update, 3:08: Bases loaded, nobody out for Rays in the sixth. Will Kuroda throw away his good fortune with all these runs for a change? Longoria up. Phelps and Logan warming.
Update, 3:11: Bad hop, two-run single past A-Rod’s glove, 6-3.
Update, 3:15: Joyce hits into a double play, but a run scores, so it’s 6-4.
Update, 3:19: Kuroda through six, allowed four hits, fanned 10. He’s at 101 pitches. Wade Davis on for the Rays.
Update, 3:25: Davis strikes out the side in the sixth. Logan will take over for Kuroda. Ichiro takes over in left. Jones moves to right. Swisher moves to first. Pearce out of the game (after failing to catch a foul pop at the rail in the sixth).
Update, 3:29: Logan gets the first batter, Phelps will come on to replace Logan.
Update, 3:39: Phelps strands runners at first and second with two outs, nice fastball at the knees to get Jennings looking.
Update, 3:51: Robertson on for the eighth. Dickerson in left. Ichiro moves to right.
Update, 3:57: It took Robertson 14 pitches to go 1-2-3. Paul Emmel has ejected another Ray. Matt Joyce wasn’t happy getting called out looking to end the inning.
Update, 4:06: Jeter up with a man on second, looking for his 200th hit.
Update, 4:07: He doesn’t get it, bouncer to short. Soriano on to try for his 40th save. He’s 5 for 5 vs. the Rays.
Update, 4:15: A-Rod makes an error, but Soriano closes it out. Yankees win, 6-4. Kuroda’s 14th win.



Sadly I think Nunez may be trade bait in the offseason, as the Yankees probably won’t want to keep a bench guy that only backs up SS.
Let’s go, boys! Get a couple of early runs for Hiro, for a change, then he can carry us.
Just came in. Gorgeous day in Rhody. Looks like a gorgeous day in the Bronx!
GO HIROKI!!!
GO YANKS!!!
GO JAYS!!!
GO A’S!!!
tom, I say let hiroki keep this scoreless until the offense gets moving (which they will). He can set the tone. If he can put in an appearance similar to Hughes’s and Nova’s, our Yanks may have rounded a very big corner.
Sometimes hitters don’t get cooking until after the first time through the lineup. You want your SP to hold the fort as long as possible. Kuroda needs to do it with these weaker-hitting teams.
Do not Longoria beat you Kuroda
What is his put-away pitch? Is he relatively good at finishing off hitters?
Perhaps his slider?
Nice K on Longoria.
Trish, why don’t we break precedent today and put up a crooked number in the first?
THAT’S what I’m talking about!
KURODA!!!!!
tom – because GWGGT?
Looks to me as though our boy has his sinker and slider working today. Let’s make it easy for him, Yanks.
tom, I don’t mind at all if we put up a crooked number. I just didn’t want the team to start out deficit spending! Hiroki made sure we didn’t, at least in the first inning!
KURODA shows some guts and makes his pitches… Now lets get the party started and score early & often. Hi everybody!
Great job Hiroki.
Good questions Trish. I will let those who are more familiar Kuroda answer.
I have noticed a couple of times early this year, where it seemed like he didn’t want to pitch around a good hitter and got burned for it. Longoria is that hitter in this line-up. Cant give in to him.
Moore was tipping pitches last time out against the Yanks, hopefully he hasn’t corrected that problem yet.
UnKnown
That’s interesting. Was it something you picked up? Or..
K-K-K-K-K—–Kuroda
Good afternoon guys,
The slider, CU and sinker are working
Tar,
I think Piniella mentioned it on the booth in Tampa
Nice splitty! Moore was tapping his glove when he was about to throw his fastball. Also moore’s velo was down last game vs Balt. What is it today?
Kkkkkkuroda
Kkkkkk!
Holy crapski!
I like how Kuroda is leaving Rays hitters muttering to themselves as they trudge back to the dugout. Splitter, slider, occasional curve, and a sneaky fastball. Fun to watch!
KURODA!!!!
Hi YF,
He is sitting 93-94 with the FB.
Mo sitghing!!
YF
At least 1 pitch was 95, he looked good in the first.
kkkkkkKuroda
Mo sitghing!!
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Indeed, primo

A beautiful sight(ing).
Thanks, guys re: velo. Looks like he’s back to normal. Moore was puzzled as to why he was 91-3 last game.
Problem is, Moore looks just as good, with more gas. We’ll get to him, though, starting here with Andruuw.
Football Sunday— I hope the trolls are watching the pigskin.
I’ll take it!
Hey Primo!
Thanks for the correction
. Vato was money yesterday, very encouraging
He is Sitting 94, but the FB looks straight. If he doesn’t locate i can see someone hitting it a long way.
‘Druw takes one for the cause.
Just a bit to much loft there by the Grandyman.
Andruw takin’ one for the team.. Grandy just missed. An extra bowl of granola & it would be 2-0
If Kuroda continues to get the Rays swinging away at his sinker he is going to be very successful today.
Tar, let’s hope. I’m about to pay closer attention although I’m situated too far away from this laptop screen I’m forced to watch on to observe as closely as I’d like.
Can Pearce play the outfield? When Tex comes back, we can DH Nunez, and Jones could go to the bench. I’d rather have Ichiro’s defense but if Joe insists on a righty – is Pearce a legitimate option.
luis September 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Hey Primo!
Thanks for the correction
. Vato was money yesterday, very encouraging
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Yes he was. Both Young Philip and Vato have done us proud. Ditto Phelpsy in his last outing. worried about C, though. I’m sure it’s killing that guy. he’s all <3
yankeefeminista -
Saw Trenton last night.
Got to see a Turley pick-off. Wowza!
Nice pitch..grrrr!
Villa, good for you! I had tix but had to eat them b/c I broke my ankle. Not fun, but at least hot to watch on the laptop. Turley looked really good. The CB was particularly nasty.
Moore has reallly good change, n that was his socalled “problem” pitch a while back.
*got to watch
Moore was dominant like this early in Tampa too then lost his command in the middle of the game and the Yanks got to him…..we have to hope he does the same today because when he has everything going hes darn near unhittable.
The Kids are alright!
yankeefem,
Ouch! Not a good thing. In a cast? Get better quick.
Kkkkkkk
yankeefem – sending you Archangel Raphael rays of <3 & healing
Rays are already taking more of a patient approach at the plate. If that is the case Kuroda needs to paint strikes on the first two pitches and make them pay for just standing there with the bat.
YF
Lo siento mucho
I’ve had a nightmare of a time with my ankle. Multiple surgeries, etc. I feel for you.
Kuroda is locked in!!!
So far, so good. Now is the time for a crooked number….
Hiro has the kitchen sink working so far today…..throwing everything for strikes
I want another “Nunie……to the Moonie!”
Moore’s a pleasure to watch when it doesn’t impact you.
Thanks, Tom, Pruf! Yes in a cast and pretty immobile, but hanging in there.
YF,
Sorry about the bum ankle….never broken mine but many bad sprains….no fun.
blake, I’ll take another of those, long as I can avoid having to hear Sterling’s call, LOL
JAP,
And he’s a pain in the butt when it does.
“‘ I want another “Nunie……to the Moonie!’”
Just don’t as long as you’re not in the car. Don’t Sterling and drive!
yankeefeminista -
Ouch. Take care of the ankle!
Yes, the curveball is a nasty pitch for him.
Tough to watch the other team celebrate on the field.
So disappointing to see lots of empty seats.
Really don’t understand why for a Saturday night game. Playoff game!
Jeter will probably be bunting here.
If someone offered me Moore or Strasburg for the next 10 years Kd take Moore……I like his delivery better and think hes less likely to get hurt …..plus he signed that cheapo contract.
The Cap’n is going to run into a FB!!
Thanks, Blake. Just hope I can attend Yanks playoff games. I’ll wheelchair to my seats if I have to.
Go Jeet!
Because of the blackout yesterday, I hear the “Nunie to the Moonie” call, hard to believe how bad that guy is. Had to keep asking questions here, because I learned nothing of the game listening to him.
“Just don’t as long as you’re not in the car. Don’t Sterling and drive!”
Unfortunately I am always driving when I Sterling!
Thanks, Villa! Yes, turned the game after right after last pitch so I wouldn’t have to watch. Ugh. Sorry that Austin had to be shut down and I hope that the ankle isn’t chronic.
Sweet. Now a classic Jeter AB going the other way here.
Nunez totally changes this lineup
Nuney could school Gardy on disrupting the pitcher.
Blake I figured as much. I wonder how many accidents Sterling has caused.
Jeeeeeet!!!!!!
Is that what would be called RISP?
Just curious.
Boy, the yankees missed having Nunez speed
MVP-MVP! He has to be in the discussion.
Nunie! Cap’n! The way it’s supposed to be done!
Captain will not allow this team to miss the playoffs. Best baseball Player I have ever seen in my life.
Great baserunning and great job Jeter and Nunie!
blake says:
September 16, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Nunez totally changes this lineup
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Yup.
Jete—199 He’s my hero…
Small Ball!
Jete & Nuney! Prrfect, Swish bunt?? LOL!
Had to do some things and I just read about your ankle. I am really sorry about it, I hope it doesn’t hurt. get well soon!!
Nunez and Jeter!!
I love it……great job Swish!
Go Nunez go.
Not a bad bunt with the way Hiroki is pitching. Not to mention Swish struggling
Good for Nick.
Yankee bunting. Oh yeah!!! Better late than never! These are the Yanks you know. They can do anything they set their minds to doing!
UnKnown September 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Captain will not allow this team to miss the playoffs. Best baseball Player I have ever seen in my life.
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Amen.
Now a squeeze play here with Arod and Maddon will definitely freak out.
They have to keep Nunez in the lineup at least vs lefties the rest of the season….it adds an entire other layer to what they can do offensively
Will they give in?
There are more empty seats than there should be generally but Rosh hashana may a factor…
The Bronx Bunters!
I told you all Swisher could bunt.
Alex delivers again.
Boy, have the yankees missed alex.
Alex! He’s fresh as a daisy.
“They have to keep Nunez in the lineup at least vs lefties the rest of the season”
Yeah you have to wonder how much the offense suffered with losing both GGBG and Nunie.
Would that be defined as an RISP?
If so, would that indicate multidimensional hitting?
Just curious.
Bang Bang. Jeter & Arod. 2-0 Yanks.
Alex!!
They have to keep Nunez in the lineup at least vs lefties the rest of the season….it adds an entire other layer to what they can do offensively.
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About time they realized this.
blake September 16th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
They have to keep Nunez in the lineup at least vs lefties the rest of the season….it adds an entire other layer to what they can do offensively
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Multidimensional comes to mind…
Arod with another good piece of hitting. A repeat of yesterday’s game
Alex has a little Manny Ramierez like load going on….his load has been different since he came back…..i like it.
blake, it’s a no brainer.
YF,
Sorry about your ankle, get well soon!!
What a smart baserunner he is.
Alex has great base running instincts.
OMG – Girardi out-Maddoning Maddon!
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
yankeefeminista -
Ah! Forgot about the holiday.
I’m loving this Yankees inning here.
Alex, is just a smart baseball player. People underestimate this aspect of alex’s game.
Boy Alex is playing some good baseball right now…..
girardi needs stay the $%^& away from the pokemon binder. bunting a runner from 2nd to 3rd in the 3rd inning. that’s just desperate baseball. as if the yankees pitching and bullpen can hold a 2 run lead for the next 6 innings. just asinine. could be a big freaking inning here. and if you get a big inning maybe, just maybe you don’t need to use robertson or soriano today. off day or no off day tomorrow
Russ….no DP please
Yankee offense gets excited behind good SP!
should be 2-0 but martin is chasing out of the zone
Alex with an SB, is this the Small Ball demo video they’re making today?
I was just about to say that good Yankee baseball has the desired effect of keeping the biotch squad away from the forum. Then I saw “one of them” slipped through! It must be hard staying away from the gamethread two days in a row!
Tom,
That wasn’t small ball…that was smart and aggressive ball, which I like
Thanks, Tar and Luis! And so sorry to hear about your ankle, Tar. Sorry if I missed anyone. I’m on my back, typing into an iPhone.
A Yanks win would help a lot!
Kuroda is probably about to faint in the dugout right now with early run support.
I just hope this long inning does not mess with Kuroda’s rhythm.
Had to step away – how’d Robi get on?
tom, they are putting on a small-ball clinic!
And some said it couldn’t be done!!
YES!!!!
GREAT AB BY MARTIN!!!
Atta boy, Russ !
UM – that was the same Russell Martin that some of you want to banish.
You might want to hold on that thought.
Allez! C’est magnifique!
That sound was not the crack of the bat but the casket lid slamming on the Rays chances to win the East.
SEE YA!!!
Heads up at bat from Martin. Not only that he was 0-2, brought it back to 3-2 and the went oppo. Go Yankees!
Same thing as Moore’s last start vs the Yanks…..he started out just hittable….then lost his command….he lost it about 2 innings earlier today though.
Russ!
Martin’s been having good ABs for awhile now vs LHP.
Liking the continued oppo approach. I hope Hiro isn’t sitting too long; he was in such a great rhythm.
Damned homers!
That’s smart and aggressive, to, luis!
Finally giving Kuroda some runs for a change….
Nunez set his entire inning up. His walk and speed rattled Moore, gave Jeter a nice pitch to hit and the inning just went from there …
Martin now has more homeruns than the Mighty Montero..
Girardi detractors need to give a nod to him for moving Russell to the 5 hole.
The guy actually knows what he’s doing from time to time, even if it doesn’t appear that way to astute baseball minds.
Primo,]
They walked him to face Martin
Yanks slowly starting to look like a team that resembles my Yankees……playing better baseball.
It wasn’t intentional.
It’s starting to come together….I feel good…Like I knew that I would!!!!!!
“Damned homers!”
GRRR!!!! You think they’d back off with those things!
Bye Maddon!
Ump show …..why on earth do you warn the benches on that…….Im so sick of umpires.
primo, thanks. Good he made them pay.
“Yanks slowly starting to look like a team that resembles my Yankees……playing better baseball.”
I would say that comes under the category of GWGGT.
I tip my hat to the GWGGT members here.
We knew this was gonna happen!
Tricia……..OPPC, 2009 Revisited
Moore falling apart now. Let’s tack a few more on.
I like the Long Ball approach there by Martin this inning.
Maddon is melting down.
Kuroda is probably happy to finally sit and get some run support. It has been a long time coming.
Kuroda is a veteran so hopefully that stupid unnecessary warning wont affect him……
tomingeorgia September 16th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Damned homers!
That’s smart and aggressive, to, luis!
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I’ll take Maddon getting thrown out, but that was BS from the ump. Moore with too many pitches this inning
Benny Blanco September 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Martin now has more homeruns than the Mighty Montero..
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Montero plays his home games in Safeco Park.
Moore is completely flustered.
Yanks are at their best when they work the count, let the big innings come to them. Each player in this inning did not try to do too much. Then Martin gets a nice get-it-over pitch on a 3-2 count, then bam! … When individual players are swinging for the fences on 0-1 counts or 1-2 counts, this O doesn’t work A’s well.
Still concerned; Hope Kuroda-san is ok after all this sitting.
Boy the wheels have fallen off the youngster this inning.
J. Alfred Prufrock September 16th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Benny Blanco September 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Martin now has more homeruns than the Mighty Montero..
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Montero plays his home games in Safeco Park.
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JAP. I’m just having some fun with it….. #norharmnofoul.
blake,
Don’t remember Kuroda hitting anybody this year, do you?
have to pull him if he losses this batter
A 5 is crooked, like I asked for at the start of this inning..
Nice AB by Pearce…
Moore closing in on 80 pitches in 2.2 innings.
Agree about the MartinAB Luis et all. Going oppo and not trying to hit it out is key.
blake September 16th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Boy the wheels have fallen off the youngster this inning.
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If he were ours, people would want him in the pen or traded….for an “established” pitcher.
What a time for it to all start coming together!
I’m going to try to find that scholarly article that talks about the psychological effects of stellar starting pitching on flagging offenses…
Of course, Moore’s pitching is helping – but we can’t use that as the primary determinant since we’ve been told that the Yankees should have pounded the tar out of “awful” pitchers like Cook – and they did not.
Anyway – just wow.
I cannot discount the new life breathed into this team with the return of Alex, and now Nova. And new additions the lineup.
And it’s only going to get better. Andy comes back Tuesday.
Moore, young pitcher with growing pains, but that’s part of the process. One of my Dave young pitchers but happy to knock him out.
*fave young pitchers…
“Don’t remember Kuroda hitting anybody this year, do you?”
I dont know….Im sure hes hit somebody. I dont think itll affect him cause hes been around…..but when the ump warns both teams like that for no reason then some pitchers might get tentative about throwing inside as they dont want to get tossed. I just wish umpires would use their brains occasionally
“Tricia……..OPPC, 2009 Revisited”
Pat M, yeow but yes!
Just what I was afraid of.
Thats what happens when you sit for 45 mins
That was the best offensive inning in a long time. A walk, two steals, a sac bunt, three RISPs, including a homer. I think I have died and gone to heaven.
“If he were ours, people would want him in the pen or traded….for an “established” pitcher.”
Can we have him?
That’s a product of Hiroki sitting so long. No prob.
yankeefem – I’m a fan as well. Like you, followed him in the minors. Wish he was our struggling young lefty
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Atta boy, Hiro!
There you go Nunie….nice feet there….got around the ball…timed the best hop….very nice.
blake, you want to see Moore turned into a sixth inning wonder?
I will take 5 more runs and another Rays solo homer next inning please.
K-uroda!
Zobrist always plays the Yanks tough.
“blake, you want to see Moore turned into a sixth inning wonder?”
What are you talking about….hed be a great LOOGY
Pat M – I think it goes something like this:
Blessed are they who have seen and believed.
But more blessed are they who believed without seeing.
Are you feeling me?
yankeefem – I’m a fan as well. Like you, followed him in the minors. Wish he was our struggling young lefty.
Couldn’t agree Moore!
Lookin’ good, so far so good….. Lets put a few more runs up and take the fight out of dem Rays!
Never is it probably a good thing for a pitcher to sit for a long time between innings, but considering the alternative which is the offense goes 1-2-3, I think any pitcher would say they want the 5 runs.
With that said, I don’t think you can automatically say that the Zobrist HR happened strictly because Kuroda sat a long time in between innings.
Remember Zobrist just missed a HR in the 1st inning by about a foot and went for a double. So maybe Zobrist is just seeing the ball well from Kuroda.
He dominated the rest of the inning.
“What are you talking about….hed be a great LOOGY”
Youre kidding right. Hes too valuable. I’d Noesi/phelps him.
Nunie cannot be stopped!
Nunez, the rays killer.. haha
Put the ball in play and good things can happen.
Go Jeet!
Mac,
I can relate to that feeling
Excellent situational hitting for a change. even though I have to say that i saw some of this yesterday as well, the first two runs that we scored today were plated by the same guys that brought those great runs scored by Ichiro and Cano.
FTR,
I would rather have Montero than Martin. The latter has to actually work to have this approach, the other has it naturally. But I am certainly happy that he is trying hard to bat according to the situation.
What an addition Nunez has been to the team. Some youth was needed
If Nunie gets on base its a double…..
Nunez!
Maddon: EAT IT!!!!!!
Anyone knocking Martin today ? Hmmm…..He’s been quite good lately and out of the 5 spot !
Kuroda, as I and a number on here said when he was aquired, was the kind of pitcher that could pitch anywhere in the world and be successful. Doesn’t mean he’s the best in the world, just a very good pitcher. And our best starter this yr., bar none. Hope he’s back next year.
Nunez, I feel, will be back next year, unless involved in a big trade. He may not be a great defensive player, but I think he can become better and is capable still of backing up other spots as well as SS. We need the speed, as proven today.
Jeter, WHAT MORE CAN YOU SAY ?
Did I say SPEED ? NUNIE !!!
So happy for Nunez. I know he felt terrible about that error the other night, despite the fact that he had made some pretty awesome plays.
Girardi tapped him as heir apparent to Derek. I’d love to see that come true for him!
When did Rays put on Ys unis???
Nunez is so much more aggressive than gardner…base stealing wise.
Nunie! Dynamic player.
Or a triple!
What are you talking about….hed be a great LOOGY
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Yikes.
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LOL at Nunez. He’s like a cheetah broken out of one of those zoo cages.
Correction, Flash. An element they could have had all year long.
Tricia……Always !!!!
Pat M –
Happy Sunday!
I might add, this is one of the more enjoyable games ( so far, at least ) of the yr.
Like the mix of pitches that Kuroda uses and our mix at the plate today.
Some of their own medicine – Nunie, you can’t stop him.
4 NYY September 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Anyone knocking Martin today ? Hmmm…..He’s been quite good lately and out of the 5 spot !
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He made an adjustment and has had better ABs. Instead of swinging out of his shoes, he’s been taking the ball the other way, which is something he used to do. But he’s not a No. 5 hitter. That’s how barren the lineup is, that he’s hitting there.
Damn everything going wrong for the Giants 2 weeks in a row
Just missed it!
Good job, Al baby.
Gladly take the sac fly there. Tack on runs is a huge component to a nice stress free game.
Excellent at bat by Arod…He just missed it, but far enough for Nunez to score…Again, he wasn’t trying to hit it out, just to put a good swing on it
Only problem with being the heir apparent to Jeter (much like being heir apparent to Mo) is that Jeter is in no hurry to vacate the position…
So, I’d love to somehow see them let Nunie learn at least an outfield position. Maybe he can’t be the super-ute they thought he could be; but he was definitely missed this season. They need to find a place for him, and let him spell Jeter every now and then, and then step into the spot in a couple of years, once Jeter is finished.
Nunie is just fun to watch hit.
Good Lord, so much small ball and hitting with RISP.
Rays really snakebitten today.
Guess it’s gettin’ late early out there.
I’ll take the SF and Alex’s smart AB’s.
No sabes?! I’ll take it.
J. Alfred Prufrock September 16th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
4 NYY September 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Anyone knocking Martin today ? Hmmm…..He’s been quite good lately and out of the 5 spot !
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He made an adjustment and has had better ABs. Instead of swinging out of his shoes, he’s been taking the ball the other way, which is something he used to do. But he’s not a No. 5 hitter. That’s how barren the lineup is, that he’s hitting there.
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That’s well known, just saying he’s been doing the job much to the chagrin of some here.
He still swings hard most of the time, as he should. But, he eases up a bit when behind somewhat. Lately especially.
Anybody else see the little half circle load Alex is doing now….he used to kinda go straight back and then forward…..hes doing a little mini Manny move now….seems like maybe its helping him get his hands going quicker.
Left Field during a day game claims another victim.
Really like what I am seeing from ARod’s swing. Shortens up when appropriate, bat head is quick to the ball. Very good sign.
FTR,
I would rather have Montero than Martin.
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I thought I should also go on record here on this subject, since it has never come up
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I agree!!!
I admire the Alex, baseball skills as opposed to Mr Hero (in his own mind)
Alex is as smart a player as there is…
Villa,
He is fun to watch in deed… Man, i am actually enjoying the games again. They are fun
Yogi Pruf……Good call
Watching the Rays feed because YES is patchy today. The Ray’s announcer on that fly to left, “routine flyball to left. it falls in!” Guess he hasn’t watched too many Autumn day games at the Stadium (any of them!).
blake,
That’s a neat observation. He had that little circle thing you mention for the homer yesterday. That was yesterday?…I think…?
Any way, he had it, whenever it was.
Kkkkkkkkk
JAP,
Alex is always tinkering but I noticed it when he came back……
Who catches then ???
Got him!
He still swings hard most of the time, as he should. But, he eases up a bit when behind somewhat. Lately especially.
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He’s doing a fine job against LHP lately.
How good is Jeter? Not only is he keeping the team alive with big hits, when it becomes obvious that Nunez will only play SS, he gets injured just at the right time to get Nunez in the lineup. Even his injuries are clutch.
It’s going to be tough for Joe to deny Kuroda the ball for Game 1.
I mean it’s still to early to be putting things like that in stone. There are several factors that go into those decisions I’m sure, but Kuroda has definitely pitched better than CC this year.
Ideally, Kuroda would pitch at home where he has been Cy Young worthy, but I don’t think you can hold Kuroda back till Game 3 of the ALDS.
Benny Blanco September 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Nunez is so much more aggressive than gardner…base stealing wise.
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In his career, Nunez has a SB or CS 27% of the time he has an opportunity to run. Gardner is at 25%.
Pat M. September 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Who catches then ???
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Pat,
He took an isolated phrase from a post I made. I was pointing out mostly their batting approaches, but since you bring that out, why not? Montero and Stewie, or Montero and Martin?… Anyway, that’s water under the bridge
blake September 16th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
JAP,
Alex is always tinkering but I noticed it when he came back……
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Yes, he’s always fooled around with his swing and stance. You know, as much as I wish 2007 Alex were still in the bank, it’s been a pleasure to watch him make adjustments. He deserves a great deal of credit for his approach since coming back, and all the little things he brings to being a Yankee.
LGY,
Is it because Nunez is more aggressive and Gardner more selective in picking his spots to steal? Those the former just runs more?
Nunez has immense raw talent with his swing and his speed. He hits the ball hard, makes contact and runs all over the place. He is exactly the type of player the lineup needs desperately for balance. He’s just one individual but his unique skillset makes the offense so much more well-rounded overall.
yankeefeminista September 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Got him!
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I’m afraid that was only because the runner was hurt running out of the box. Good play to stay with it though.
It is kind of twisted but Jeter’s injury may be one of the best things to happen to this team, especially since it hasn’t affected his hitting.
Girardi was content trotting Pearce and Jones out there everyday, but it looks like Nunez has forced his way into the lineup.
I’ve been hoping for weeks that Nunez would get a chance vs LHP. But Ibanez is something like 3 for his last 50 so I think you have to play Nunez everyday at this point. Just adds a different dimension to the lineup and brings some energy to this team.
Blake, it probably gives Alex a little more loft. He really didn’t take long to find his rhythm despite the layoff.
LGY, they should have brought Nunez up as an option a month ago vs LHP. Instead they insisted on their vets and Aaaa players.
LGY,
Also if it builds a little confidence in Nunez defensively…..but yea…..they need Nunez in the ljneup vs lefties…..its pretty obvious
Don’t think Nunez is necessarily more aggressive. I think it’s more a product of him playing a lot less than Gardner.
Gardner’s first two years in the league he ran 27% of the time also.
4NYY, QFT but I’ll take the result while not wishing for a player injury.
Gardner, I read may be back soon to at least P. R., if not play the outfield also.
I was pushing them to try adams at DH for a month vs LHP…..just anybody but the guys they had been throwing out there that werent producing
I dunno, Nuney seems to be a bit more decisive than Brett. Maybe he reads pitchers better. Would be nice to have them both in there, causing havoc.
yankeefeminista September 16th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
4NYY, QFT but I’ll take the result while not wishing for a player injury.
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Me too !
Nunez should be a starting MLB shortstop, just no room with Jeter. I think his defense would improve with regular playing time. He just needs the repetitions that come with regular playing time. His bat and speed are obviously MLB ready.
My guess is the Yanks trade him this offseason.
Yeah having watched both for years, Nunez is a better base stealer IMO. Just knows when to take off and doesn’t doubt his ability to get there. Gardner’s good but too methodical.
Adams really looks comfortable at 3B now. It was a shrewd move, considering Robinson Cano is 29 and the 2B. Adams really needs to get a chance next season. He can back up Alex, spell Cano from time to time, hit lefties, etc.
Bichette and Andujar are a long, long way off.
Does anyone think Jones will be on post season roster ? I know, all year on, so still on ! Ughh !
I don’t think he can get worse, so maybe……. he’ll help somehow.
Probably want Adams to get more comfortable at 3B plus still coming off that injury. But he’s availed himself well at 3B; hopefully he gets a shot next year.
I said last year that Gardner, although he has the green light, needs to be told when to steal.
( sign )
why would the stupid fan get in the way??
I wouldn’t deal a starting middle infielder who is cost-controlled unless I’m getting back a starting infielder. For example, if the Padres inquired on Nunez, I’d counter with a demand for Chase Headley with Nunez headlining the package. Otherwise, I’m keeping Nunez.
Get out of the way fan !
yankeefeminista -
Adams made a really heads-up play at last night’s game. Showed me some smarts and a guy who is alert.
yankeefem, he’s really one of the few guys that we have who is really ready as a hitter, and who provides the kind of hitter the lineup is in short supply of. Joseph too, but he doesn’t have a position.
blake September 16th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I was pushing them to try adams at DH for a month vs LHP…..just anybody but the guys they had been throwing out there that werent producing
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The question I have is how much worse is Nunez in the OF than Andruw Jones. If Nunez could play the OF I’d live to see them try Adams or Cervelli at DH.
someone should dump a beer on that idiot.
Get the hell out of the way clown!
Buckle down Hiro….
Um, um. Um…
J. Alfred Prufrock September 16th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I dunno, Nuney seems to be a bit more decisive than Brett. Maybe he reads pitchers better. Would be nice to have them both in there, causing havoc.
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Yup, i would love to see them giving Maddon a continous taste of his medicine. Plus that it would give so many options ( plays) for the offense to score.
I want Adams up here too. Mustelier would be a nice addition too. No more Jones please.
Control issues all of a sudden here.
Damn, that happened quickly.
Get the BP ready. I don’t want another close game. This has been a stress free game for a change
Thinking the same thing about pitching to the scoreboard as Flash just mentioned. And then I also thought about what would/should happen if the scoreboard showed, say a 3-1 score?
Would Girardi pull him for a relief pitcher? If this were the post, would he do it? I’m a fan of SP getting the job done. I’m not saying he won’t, just that these are the situations that try men’s (and women’s) soul.
Villa, I saw the play. He’s looked good generally. Not sure how much range he has to his left but …
Ugh wonky bounce speaking of 3B — grrrrr!
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Um, um. Um…
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Just WHAT R U doing Trish ? LOL
Come on!! when it rains it poors. bad hop hit
Nothing can ever be easy.
“Come on!! when it rains it poors. bad hop hit”
True enough. But we wouldn’t even be talking about it if the bases weren’t loaded with nobody out…
Inning on Kuroda so far – those two walks – - – –
“Nothing can ever be easy.”
Hughes and Nova made it easy.
This isn’t necessarily easy.
Phelps getting ready. Good pitch there, a k would be very important here
Yup, i would love to see them giving Maddon a continous taste of his medicine. Plus that it would give so many options ( plays) for the offense to score.
I want Adams up here too. Mustelier would be a nice addition too. No more Jones please.
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I feel bad for Andruw. He must have some real issues with his legs. It has to be that, so I can’t understand them going with him in OF. If they want a defender upgrade and a power hitter vs. lefties, they can go with Mesa. But with him come his issues against offspeed.
Mustelier does not strike me as beyond mediocre in the OF, but haven’t seen him a whole lot. His bat has looked good when I’ve seen him, but again, I have not seen enough of him to really advocate for him. He seems to hit line drives to all fields though.
Adams and Joseph I’ve seen a ton of. Both could help the lineup now, I believe.
BAD luck!!!
Let’s say he had gotten that DP. Does he still come out for the 7th? Will he still come out for the 7th?
Finally give kuroda some runs to play with – and he is sure is playing with them – - – -
Damage already done – 6-4 – on kuroda for those two walks – - – -
I wouldn’t trade Nunez either: mi position, bat speed , base path speed. All things we lack.
Atta boy, Hiro!
Wow. WTH kind of hop was that. Seriously unlucky.
Good job limiting damage Hiroki.
Best we could’ve hoped for there…
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 16th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
“Come on!! when it rains it poors. bad hop hit”
True enough. But we wouldn’t even be talking about it if the bases weren’t loaded with nobody out…
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Hence the phrase
Bad moment to happen.
Good A dp
“Hughes and Nova made it easy.”
Those weren’t easy wins
It is not mitigating damage if the pitcher puts on two of the runners via walk and then permits them to come around – damage is done and not mitigated – 6-4
Essentially – all of the runners on base when Longoria was up have come around to score – not mitigated at all – - – -
Good finish.
KURODA got boned by that idiot in the stands and a crazy hop on a double play groundball.
The man can pitch ! PERIOD
Out of it!
Sterling had Upton struck out 3 times…..Im glad the last one was for real.
Get some runs back – be great if add another two and push it to 8-4
I believe in JR
yankeefeminista September 16th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
I wouldn’t trade Nunez either: mi position, bat speed , base path speed. All things we lack.
Atta boy, Hiro!
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+1
The Return of Stoneburner September 16th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
It is not mitigating damage if the pitcher puts on two of the runners via walk and then permits them to come around – damage is done and not mitigated – 6-4
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He got Longoria to hit an easy groundball that should have been a double play.
Kuroda boned himself by walking two of the runners who ended up scoring – - – -
We only have 4 hits. Gotta get going !
easy groundball
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There was not that much easy about the groundball – tricky yes – but not easy – - – -Kuroda walked two guys to set up that situation – and that is where the blame lies so far – - – -
Now I want Phelps in.
This isn’t the kind of SP I was talking about, especially with an offense-poor lineup.
Hope Kuroda wins the game. I want him to get the W. He worked hard for it. He has been a great addition to the Ys rotation. However, of late he hasn’t been able to hold a lead (not talking today). People talk about the lack of run support he’s gotten. Well he was given plenty today.
Maybe he’s gotten tired from having to work so hard to help the rotation. However, I want as sure a thing as we can get. My top two at this point are Hughes and Nova. I want to say my top three are – and add Andy. I believe it’s going to happen, but we obviously have to wait until Tuesday to see what he has.
My postseason rotation has been up, down and all around. CC has been eliminated from it, at least as of right now – despite the fact that he almost unequivocally will be in it, a la Girardi.
Until today I was gung ho Kuroda, Hughes, Nova, Pettitte (yes Pettitte sight unseen, I’m taking a leap of faith.) Not sure I feel that Kuroda is the guy anymore.
My standards for Yankee SP might be a bit more strigent than those of some others, so take that into account when reading this post.
Looks as if it will come down to the pen – hopefully Phelps, DRob and Sori can bring this one in- – - –
We need one more longball this inning.
Stoneburner
You expect a SP to be perfect? Kuroda’s SO/BB ratio this game is 5.0. Walking two batters in a game especially when you strike out 10 is perfectly acceptable.
Under normal circumstances, probably 99 times out of 100 that inning ends with 1 run at most. Bad luck happens. That’s why stats that seperate what a pitcher can control are so important. For example, his FIP today is 2.93.
Kuroda has been the clear cut ace of the staff. He lost command on that inning, but he has been money so far for the season, the only reason he doesn’t have 16-17 wins by now is the lack of offensive output from the team.
Can we have Davis if they arent going to start him?
“Those weren’t easy wins”
Depends on your rolaids factor. I considered them easy wins. Or perhaps better stated, I considered the SP stellar parts of those wins.
Trisha-
Unless he is injured, there is absolutely no chance that CC would not be in a postseason rotation. You just have to hope he comes back and performs.
LGY,
How funny that you bring FIP today, I was thinking the other day that FIP is a much more accurate stat than ERA
“Kuroda has been the clear cut ace of the staff. He lost command on that inning, but he has been money so far for the season, the only reason he doesn’t have 16-17 wins by now is the lack of offensive output from the team.”
He has given back the lead in his last several games. That’s not money.
Not a strike.
Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle writes that it is highly unlikely that we will see suspended outfielder Melky Cabrera appear in a postseason game for the Giants. Doing so would require leaving a roster spot open until the sixth playoff game of the year, which would be a sizable commitment considering that they don’t know what he could bring to the table. Beyond that, the Giants are likely upset with Cabrera on a personal level.
CC and KURODA out of the postseason rotation?
You must be joking.
Trisha,
They still were close games. We need a couple of blowouts wins
“Depends on your rolaids factor. I considered them easy wins. Or perhaps better stated, I considered the SP stellar parts of those wins.”
They were nail biters…..good starting pitching but Hughes’s gane was 2-0 and Nova’s was 5-3…..Alex knocked in an insurance run yesterday to make that one slightly less nerve whracking.
LGY, all the above.
“Unless he is injured, there is absolutely no chance that CC would not be in a postseason rotation.”
This is a definite. In fact because Money Talks, he is more than likely your Game 1 starter.
GM Brian Cashman reiterated Joe Girardi will manage the Yankees next year, according to Ken Davidoff of the New York Post. Cashman was specifically asked, if in his mind, Girardi will be the manager regardless of what happens. “Yup,” was Cashman’s reply.
Nothing comes easy to the 2012 Yankees.
Davis is as impressive as any reliever I have seen in the AL. The Rays should shop him for a bat.
“Trisha-
Unless he is injured, there is absolutely no chance that CC would not be in a postseason rotation. You just have to hope he comes back and performs.”
Straw, absolutely know you’re right. That’s why I said “as of today” also. If CC came back and won all the rest of his games with ease, of course I’d be right back there wanting him in the starting rotation.
I have nothing but admiration for the guy. I think he’s a workhorse, he never complains, he has carried this team on his back in the past.
I am purely thinking pragmatics at this point. These are faceless pitchers to me. I’m looking at what we are getting currently from our pitchers. I don’t care what they’ve done the rest of the season. If we went based on that, Nova wouldn’t even be pitching!
I’m digging the way Joe is handling the game right now.
A more interesting scenario is, if the Yanks end up in the WC game, who starts? Not sure I’d go with Sabathia there. Not sure who I would pick…thoughts?
KURODA stats: 3.17 ERA, 195 innings, 132 ERA+, 5 to 1 k to BB ratio, whip:1.119, 6,43 k per inning ( that’s his only blemish if you can call that a blemish). Those are very ace like numbers.
Trisha
How can you talk about patience and “waiters get good tips” when you are writing off CC and KURODA based on a few starts and penciling in Nova off ONE start?
Doesn’t get more knee jerk than that.
LGY September 16th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
CC and KURODA out of the postseason rotation?
You must be joking.
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These game threads are always degenerating into tutorials. Can we just not?? No one in the universe thinks those two would not be in the rotation, if healthy… Can we just not go through this? Please? And you’re absolutely right about Kuroda this afternoon.
Thank you.
DATE OPP W L ERA SV IP H ER BB SO
07/29/2012 BOS 0 0 3.28 0 8.0 7 2 1 4
08/04/2012 SEA 0 1 3.19 0 6.1 7 1 1 4
08/09/2012 @DET 0 0 3.24 0 6.1 10 3 0 5
08/14/2012 TEX 1 0 3.06 0 9.0 2 0 2 5
08/19/2012 BOS 1 0 2.96 0 8.0 4 1 0 4
08/25/2012 @CLE 0 1 2.98 0 8.0 4 3 2 6
08/31/2012 BAL 0 1 3.04 0 8.1 8 4 0 4
09/05/2012 @TB 1 0 3.14 0 6.0 8 4 2 3
09/11/2012 @BOS 0 0 3.17 0 6.1 8 3 0 6
09/16/2012 TB 0 0 3.13 0 3.0 0 0 7
TOTALS 3 3 2.73 0 69.1 58 21 8 48
Does any other starter match this ? ( on the Yanks )
4 NYY,
Those are Kuroda’s
“Trisha,
They still were close games. We need a couple of blowouts wins”
“They were nail biters…..good starting pitching but Hughes’s gane was 2-0 and Nova’s was 5-3…..Alex knocked in an insurance run yesterday to make that one slightly less nerve whracking.”
I love close tight games. I’d rather see those than blowouts. I also like low-scoring games. But that’s because I value pitching and defense over offense. Not to the total exclusion of offense, please note.
I’m not worried about today’s game. But I’m also crazy about a pitcher who had a 4-run lead giving back those 4 runs. Period.
Because of that, I was definitely a proponent of Freddy being put in the pen. I don’t play favorites (except for Soriano
)
Not happy about any SP coughing up leads.
Actually, Hughes has been the Yanks best pitcher of late.
luis September 16th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
4 NYY,
Those are Kuroda’s
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YES
For all that is good – please get this out here Phelps – - – - -
“These game threads are always degenerating into tutorials. Can we just not?? No one in the universe thinks those two would not be in the rotation, if healthy… Can we just not go through this? Please? And you’re absolutely right about Kuroda this afternoon.
Thank you.”
Yeah, the minute you delete “Montero” from your vocabulary. And I don’t really care what you think about who would or would not think they’d be in the rotation. I’ll talk about what I want. You don’t like it, don’t read it. I have an opinion, I’m going to voice it. Nothing says you corner the market on correct about everything!
Straw,
Of late meaning last 3 starts or less?…I doubt that anyone on the staff can claim the numbers Kuroda has done for the past 10 starts or so. Not taking out anything from hughes, he has been outstanding
One more strike – - – -
“Actually, Hughes has been the Yanks best pitcher of late.”
How dare you say that.
YES YES YES
BIG PITCH!!!!
K! Cool customer!
Great job getting out of that Phelps.
Way to go, Phelps. Solid inning, including the GR double.
“These game threads are always degenerating into tutorials. Can we just not?? No one in the universe thinks those two would not be in the rotation, if healthy… Can we just not go through this? Please? And you’re absolutely right about Kuroda this afternoon.
Thank you.”
Couldn’t be anymore right. Great Post.
A very unnoticed clean frame by Martin….A slight turn of the wrist upward…..Sold the K
Phelps has ice water in his veins.
DATE OPP W L ERA SV IP H ER BB SO
07/27/2012 BOS 1 0 4.08 0 7.0 5 3 1 5
08/01/2012 BAL 1 0 3.96 0 6.0 9 1 2 2
08/07/2012 @DET 0 1 4.10 0 4.1 8 4 0 3
08/12/2012 @TOR 0 1 4.44 0 4.0 9 7 1 4
08/17/2012 BOS 1 0 4.23 0 7.0 4 0 1 4
08/22/2012 @CWS 0 1 4.15 0 7.0 5 2 2 5
08/28/2012 TOR 1 0 4.02 0 7.0 4 1 3 5
09/02/2012 BAL 0 1 4.18 0 5.0 8 5 1 6
09/07/2012 @BAL 1 0 4.13 0 6.0 6 2 0 5
09/13/2012 @BOS 1 0 3.96 0 7.1 5 0 1 7
TOTALS 6 4 3.71 0 60.2 63 25 12 46
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Hughes last 10 games.
4 NYY September 16th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
luis September 16th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
4 NYY,
Those are Kuroda’s
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YES
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Thanks for posting them
i was kind of lazy to copy them
luis, even the guys in the booth were talking about the fact that Kuroda has given back leads in his last several games.
You want to win the postseason? That can’t happen.
Please, the next thing I’ll have is randy accusing me of turning against Kuroda.
For all the space you guys have used wringing your hands about offense day after day after day, I don’t say much though I consider it vastly overdone.
But I have an opinion that doesn’t comport with some of the rest of yours on what I want to see in SP and it’s cause for this much commotion?
You and others don’t agree, that’s fine.
Pat M,
Spot on on martin framing
Everyone’s opinion is just that, nothing more, nothing less. We’re all entitled. ( as Yank fans )
That sac fly by ARod in the 4th is really looming large right now. Tack on runs always seem to come in handy.
Trisha,
So we don’t agree on this one. But by your logic CC and Kuroda should be out of the PS rotation. Do you honestly think that they won’t?
Kuroda could easily have gotten out of the inning with the pop up and bad hop, potential double play ball. Let’s now have some good luck.
austinmac September 16th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Kuroda could easily have gotten out of the inning with the pop up and bad hop, potential double play ball. Let’s now have some good luck.
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AGREED
Certainly was possible ! It’s that little word “if” that is so damn huge.
Shut em down, DRob!
“So we don’t agree on this one. But by your logic CC and Kuroda should be out of the PS rotation. Do you honestly think that they won’t?”
No. I honestly think they will. I was just giving my view on our SP at this point in time and who I’d like to see in the rotation because of it. Is all.
UnKnown September 16th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
That sac fly by ARod in the 4th is really looming large right now. Tack on runs always seem to come in handy.
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Alex has really benefited from the unfortunate broken finger. He’s got a lot of gas in the tank right now. He’s been just great.
Meaning I honestly believe they will be in the postseason rotation.
There are a lot of tired vets on this team that have the power sapped from them because over usage…
I do think there is a need for some apologies about the Yanks being unable to develop their own pitching – it has not been perfect – but pretty decent here and especially on the horizon.
The Yanks have five pitchers on the staff that are homegrown and have played a role in this September: Hughes, Nova, Phelps, DRob, and Joba. The two big FA acquisitions on the staff are C.C. and Soriano. Logan was acquired via young pitching depth in Vizcaino (who is out injured and has since been traded by the Braves – who know a thing or two about evaluating pitching).
The Yanks then have on the horizon some nice young arms as no. 4 or 5 types in Nik Turley, Brett Marshall, and perhaps even Adam Warren – and then the higher end types with Banuelos (if healthy), Ramirez, Campos (if healthy), and then DePaula – to say nothing of another young crop Gallegos, Rincon, Vargas, Bautista and company behind them.
And then to say nothing of the young pen arms coming in Montgomery, Pinder, Goody, Nuding, Whitley, Clairborne, and company.
I do not think it has been fair and some credit is due to the young pitching that has already performed at the mlb level and that is on the way – - – -
“There are a lot of tired vets on this team that have the power sapped from them because over usage…”
Not a question.
Player of the game:
I would have to say Martin. Not only for his very good 3 run at bat, but by his good framing of pitches. Let’s hope he keeps it up.
Man Robertson got jobbed on the great cutter to Zo that fooled Blue
Atta boy, DRob!
Looks like the old DRob is back.
The development of Yankees pitching continues – wonderful curve – - – -
Stoneburner,
Good post…Pitching is an area of strength on the system and on the team…our offensive side on the other hand, doesn’t look so bright for a few years…We do have some talent though, but too faraway still
Nice seeing a K on the CB.
Grandy the other way. Good to see.
I mentioned a few days ago that drob’s CB had no depth, this past two days has been outstanding again…Very important
yankeefeminista September 16th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Nice seeing a K on the CB.
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D-Rob is still awfully good. Some expect that 1.08 ERA forever.
Good piece of hitting from grandy and good bunt from Ichiro…I would have hit and run though, having speed on the base paths and at the plate
Ohh and a high contact bat like Ichiro
Let’s just hope Austin’s ankle injury isn’t a problem going forward.
Giants big comeback
luis September 16th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Stoneburner,
Good post…Pitching is an area of strength on the system and on the team…our offensive side on the other hand, doesn’t look so bright for a few years…We do have some talent though, but too faraway still
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Very true. But I am very excited about the potential of having a homegrown OF in 2014-2015. For the immediate future – i.e. 2013 – things are going to have to be very creative before Austin, Flores, and company hopefully arrive. The infield is just too locked up now – except for catcher – but I am optimistic about JR, Gary, and company.
But again – very true – the offensive prospects are far behind the pitching side – but at least the first wave was up for AA playoffs. And Cojo, Adams, Nunez, Zolio, and Mesa can hopefully fill in as bench help until the greater upside prospects arrive – possibly in 2014 – - – -
Stoneburner,
Good point about the pitching. Nova and Phelps look like quality pitchers to my eyes. I believe they can maintain spots in a rotation next year.
Score a bunch here and throw Lowe in the 9th. I think someone has to go off the 40 man, before Pettitte comes back on Tuesday. Probably be everyone’s last chance to see Lowe in a Yankee uniform.
4NYY, DRob has only be great for us; there are going to be ebbs; the nature of pitching. But DRob has pretty much avoided those, especially for a RP. He’s a rare beast.
Easy trivia : Who hit his only HR off of his brother ?
OK, Cap’n, #200 here, and an RBI, please.
Harder trivia : Who are the only father-son tandem to hit for the cycle ?
Mac,
Nova has top of the rotation stuff, plus the make up. Phelps has the make up as well, lesser stuff, but good enough to be a mid/back of the rotation guy
martin deserves to be POG to me, lot of encouraging ABs from this lineup today. Martin be a perfect BUC to me, he is a threat against lhp. Wish we can do better than Pierce when Tex went down… Yanks ought to look into the possibility of Inge this off season.
Hardest trivia : What Twin won the 1st arbitration case in 1974 ?
It’s been six days since Mark Teixeira re-injured his left calf and we learned that he’ll be out another 10-14 days, but he is still not yet ready to resume baseball activities. “He’s still sore,” said Joe Girardi prior to yesterday’s game. “I don’t have a timetable when he’ll go hit in the cage.”
4 NYY,
The Griffeys’ pere et fils?
Anyone know where I can watch NFL online? The “first row” isn’t working.
Sori has one tough out in Upton to get in the 9th and should be able to retire everyone else without much of a problem.
OF Tyler Austin was not going to play any more this season due to ankle discomfort. He had an MRI yesterday and doctor’s cleared him to play, but they weren’t going to bother risking anything at this point.
Either them, or the Bonds family.
Upton’s stance remind me that of Ruben Sierra… can no one tell him to get closer to the plate? he is almost helpless against good slider to his outside corner. The guy has a ton of tools, but heck, he is one flaw hitter.
Sori looked at his cap….It says: ” Go get them, so you can untuck your shirt”
Luis,
I think your assessments a re good. nova with his 96 mph fastball and sharp breaking ball is refinement of command from being a top flight starter. Phelps is simply solid. Good enough stuff, but he can throw it all for strikes. He thinks he will succeed.
Go So!
cash,
He can’t keep up with the heat (FB) anymore…Big red flags
Not the Bonds or the Griffeys
Meals tested again with a bang bang call at 1st.
Not a fan of B.J…. well… you know what I meant.
luis September 16th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Sori looked at his cap….It says: ” Go get them, so you can untuck your shirt”
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LMAO
Only negative thing of Arod is that he doesn’t seem agile enough anymore…I have seen a lot of plays that other more athletic fielders would make
Untuck DP!
Luis, we’ve always agreed about Vato. Lol, even my iPhone corrects me on the appropriate spelling/capitalization for Cato. Smartvphone.
Untuck!
UNTUCK!!!
*Vato
4 NYY,
Don’t tell me it was some combination of Boones!
Untuck! Another fun, exciting ballgame.
Huge Series Win!!
Suck it Maddon you dork!
Stoneburner,
Is Austin still going to the AFL?
tomingeorgia September 16th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
4 NYY,
Don’t tell me it was some combination of Boones!
Untuck! Another fun, exciting ballgame.
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I won’t. ( not them either )
Dr. Strangeglove is on life support… time to hit the beach.
There is n othing better than beating Maddon with his own medicine. This is very rewarding.
YF,
Sux are officially eliminated as well.
4NYY,
Looked it up, no way in hell I ever would have come up with them!
UnKnown September 16th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Sux are officially eliminated as well.
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even though is doesn’t thrill me the way other seasons did…..YES!!!!!!!!!!
A’s take an early lead..
Tremendous game by the NY Giants.
austinmac September 16th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Stoneburner,
Is Austin still going to the AFL?
*****
i think the only offensive players going to AZFL are Romine, Adams, and Heathcott. Austin might be playing in the Yankees instructs – but maybe not now with the ankle injury
Cashmoney September 16th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Tremendous game by the NY Giants.
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Video game numbers for Hicks and Cruz
Another excellent game for several reasons:
Kuroda pitched very well, despite that 6th inning. Some unlucky breaks lead to not so good numbers in the end. Still, he has been our best pitcher of the season.
The offense has shown different ways to score, that’s a welcomed change. Martin had the most important at bat and he delivered with a very good situational approach. Nunez continues to impress me, I just hope that they would have given him a chance sooner. I hope that they bring Adams and Mustelier as well. Arod has shown that he is probably the best situational hitter on this team still.
The BP is getting stronger. Nova has added the depth in the rotation to allow Phelps to fill the role of the 7th inning guy that can go multiple innings. More importantly, Rapada and Eppley are not getting over exposed anymore and it’s showing. Two crisp ball games this weekend, hopefully they keep getting stronger and peak at the right moment ( PS ).
later guys
It’s about time Kuroda got some run support.
Eli Manning!
Nunez continues to impress me, I just hope that they would have given him a chance sooner. I hope that they bring Adams and Mustelier as well.
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+1000
igotid88 September 16th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Eli Manning!
*****
500+ passing yards
I can live with the following bench and OF next year – will never happen – but – - -
Against RHP
RF – Zolio
CF – Granderson
LF – Gardner
Against LHP
RF – Mesa
CF – Granderson
LF – Scott Hairston
Bench:
Two OFers who are not playing b/c of splits
Adams – 3b, 2b
COJO – 1b and 2b
Nunez – SS
Romine – catcher (of course – depending on how he looks in AZFL and ST)
Big win…and with only three games out of 16 left against a team over .500 (Oakland) we really have no excuses if we don’t clinch the division now.
Such a huge, huge win. Have to take care of the spoilers, but boy, this was a big one to get.
Great job by the Yanks today. Very pumped. Go Nunie!
That fan oughta be hung by his heels from the parapet. That dude totally cost us a run. Terrible job. Box seats do suck, it seems.
Kuroda’s performance today shows why just looking at a boxscore can be pretty deceptive.
IMO he was much better than his line indicated.
And how bout a round of applause for Phelps who just keeps impressing.
MTU,
Kuroda and Phelps can caddie for each other if Phelps doesn’t start any more this year. Interesting to see what our staff looks like next year, but I’ll take what we have for the rest of this one.
Buck really mixes up his rotation a lot. Today Wolf gets a spot start. Tomorrow Tillman….
I thought Austin was going, but I do now think I was thinking of Heathcott.
I already miss the minor league season. Sigh.
MTU,
Clapping now. And doing so for some varied ways to score also.
Mister Tom-
The staff seems to be rounding into form again just in time.
Anxious to see what AP delivers Tues.
I won’t be surprised to find out that CC was nursing some sort of injury after the season ends.
People say the Yankees can’t develop pitchers but in Hughes, Nova, and Phelps you have three good ones.
Mac-
Yes. I particularly liked the way A-Rod swung the bat today.
And Soriano has really gotten it done for us this year.
Kudos to him as well.
Kuroda was awesome today. I would start him every game from here to the end of the season if it was humanely possible. Anyone who actually watched the game saw him get victimized by some incredibly bad luck in the 6th.
The type of bad luck that could get any pitcher. He got two ground balls in the sixth: one that went for a very weak infield single and the other was a DP ball that took a wicked hop by Alex.
No way you can pin that on Kuroda, unfortunately people try to do just that. SMH
Mr. MTU,
Don’t leave out Robertson, my friend. We’ll see soon what happens to a few others down there somewhere.
austinmac September 16th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
I thought Austin was going, but I do now think I was thinking of Heathcott.
I already miss the minor league season. Sigh.
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I hear you. AZFL should be fun to watch – MLB network broadcasts some of them – but it is nothing like the regular season. Pinestripes Plus does a nice job of covering the Yankees own instructional league – but it is for subscribers (i.e. have a monthly fee).
Tom-
Indeed. Robertson should not be left out but I was focusing on starters.
Lot’s of buzz about D-Rob version 2.0- Mark Montgomery.
MTU September 16th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Tom-
Indeed. Robertson should not be left out but I was focusing on starters.
Lot’s of buzz about D-Rob version 2.0- Mark Montgomery.
*****
Nick Goody and Branden Pinder are also in the conversation.
Aroldis Chapman has 119K’s as a reliever this season.
Someone want to tell me again why he is not a Yankee ?
MTU,
Montgomery is still in beta, but will be here soon in the finl version.
His WHIP is .8
Tom-
Is there any deadwood you would like to see the Yankees clear out next season ?
Dmned sticky “A” key. If i mash it hard enough, it works, but usully I don’t.
It’s OK Tom I know how to read between the letters and between the lines.
“Aroldis Chapman has 119K’s as a reliever this season.”
…and he did that without the benefit of facing granderson?
impressive
Randy-
His WHIP is .8
SMH
Wow !
MTU,
The usul suspects, I guess. Goodbye, nd thanks to Jones and Ibanez for yeomn service. Lowe, you’ve had your last pydy. Freddy, it’s been great to know you, and thanks for everything. You’ll find nother job, nd I loved wtching you pitch. Chaves, plese come back one more time. Pearce and Mcgehee, we hardly knew ye. Best of luck. Did I leave anybody out?
Who I hope stays? Swisher on a qualifying offer. Nunez up to start the seson. I swer I’ll fix the “A” key.
Tom-
Good list.
Huge weekend
MTU -
You are way too positive to post here. Even after winning, and remaining in 1st place, some here still feel the need to bash the team/players, either directly or with snide remarks.
Al-
I wasn’t when the Pitching seemed to be falling apart but now that it appears to be rounding into form my optimism level is rising along with it.
I always said they would live or die by their Pitching this season.
Hoping for a decent outing from Andy.
Man that Nunez can steal some bags.
Gotta love that.
What’s really scary is I’m even starting to feel more positive about Martin.
MTU -
What a huge difference when the pitching is strong, and you mix in some speed and timely hitting. And yes, I’m talking about the Yankees!
He’s approaching 20 Dingers for the season.
No BA but a lot of power.
MTU -
Someone showed Martin a calender, and reminded him about his pending FA. I don’t know who or what flipped his switch, but, I hope he continues on his current high.
Al-
Just imagine if GGBG was around.
I looked back today on him and came to realize he had arthroscopic surgery for a bone spur and and inflamed tissue.
I wondered if the bone spur was pre-existing or the result of that diving catch ?
He is a real difference maker if he can just stay healthy.
Him and Nunez give you some serious speed on the bases.
Paul Swydan of Fangraphs believes that if Rafael Soriano opts out of his deal with the Yankees in search of a multi-year deal with an average value of $14MM per year, either he’ll be disappointed or the team that signs him will be. Yesterday, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports opined that Soriano would be making a mistake if he cut the cord on his three-year, $35MM contract in search of a better deal.
BIG AL,
There re a few of us here that keep a level head, who know that if you’re in the Majors, you’ve earned it nd don’t need the scorn of a bunch of never weres. Those labelled AAAA types are better thn 99% of everybody who ever played the game. Our team is in 1st place, and a whole bunch of guys, not stars, got us there and have kept us there, for which they have my total respect and admiration. The men I was sending out in my message bove have all erned their pay with us, and I wish them all well.
Now, get better, CC, we need you. Dmned “A” key.
MTU -
“No BA but a lot of power.” Are you talking about Martin or Granderson, or both.
I’ll say this, if I had to choose between either Martin or Granderson to hit with the game on the line, I think I’d take Martin, JMHO.
I expect Soriano to opt out as well.
I actually think the opposite of what Rosenthal suggests.
I think he would be foolish not to capitalize on this year’s success.
No telling what next year brings.
Soriano has a checkered injury history.
May as well strike while the iron is hot is my view.
Al-
Do you think they’ll shop Granderson in the OS ?
Go Tom!
Go Martin, Toronto, Monteal!!
J bird
Tom -
I agree, and they served the team well. It just shows you can’t over use players at that stage of their career. It’s time to infuse the team with more youth, and we have several options ready to take the next step, IMO.
Big Al,… I still want Seaver.
Looks like the O’s may pull one out today and avoid the broom.
Mike -
I would shop him, if I felt I could replace him with a better, younger player. Yes, Granderson does have power, but I’d give up some of that power for a much more consistant player. Granderson has become a much more one dimentional player, does not hit well with RISP, and is no longer a steal threat.
Al-
What type of return do you think you could get for a guy like Grandy ?
ML ready player, Good AAA prospect ? Less ?
MTU, the O’s are a curious bunch. I take my hat off to them.
BIG AL,
There are young, hungry guys out there just dying for the chance to prove themselves big leaguers. Some will make it, most won’t. But, as we’ve seen, the cheap aging vet still has place. If Swisher goes, Hunter would be fine for a year or two, for instance. Kuroda, while no longer cheap, is fine, too. It will be fun to see who Cashmn signs to minor league deals this winter. We lways find a use for them.
They deserve a lot of credit for their season.
No one predicted that they’d be where they are.
Everyone expected them to fade.
Randy mentioned the Showalter, Duquette, Peterson combo.
Apparently, it’s a dynamic one.
The final credit always has to go to the players themselves IMO.
Mike -
You’ll say I’m nuts, but I’d offer him to the Red Sox for their rookie Pedro Ciriaco, and groom him as Jeter’s successor.
BIG AL,
You’re nuts.
Al-
Unrealistic perhaps.
The Sux and Yankees do not trade.
Was Ciriaco well thought of because he seems to have come out of nowhere ?
Tom -
I’ll never deny the obvious.
Evenin’ Mr. jmills,
I emailed Chad and gave him my permission to give you my email.
I have not heard back, but I believe he’s on vacation? Bryan Heyman has to blog today. I haven’t received any emails from Chad, however, on your behalf, regarding the comment you made about not emailing you.
MTU,
He only hits the Yanks.
Bold prediction :
Banuelos will light it up next season at AAA and re-establish himself as a premiere prospect.
MTU,
The next Ron Guidry, and I hope you’re right.
Mike -
No, Ciriaco was a stanout SS in AAA, and only moved to 3B because of the Middlebrooks injury.
I think he will have a very stong career. He hits, fields and runs very well.
A team needs to be strong up the middle, and I still hate we traded away A-Jax, a player coming into his own, and IMHO, will have a much better MLB career than Granderson, when all is said and done.
I saw the highly touted ex-Sux prospect Casey Kelly pitch last night.
Nice FB but a very funky motion.
Looks like an injury waiting to happen.
MTU,
Can’t swear to it, but I believe Ciriaco is in his mid twenties and was not considered much of a “prospect.”
There was an Audy Ciriaco in AA. Don’t know if they’re related, but they play a similar game.
Thanks Al-
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Looks like A-Jax has a better chance to reach his cieling that some expected.
The K’s are down and the power is rising.
MTU -
I hope you’re right about Manny, but, I have doubts he’ll ever be more than a #4 or #5 SP, if he makes it.
tomingeorgia September 16th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
MTU,
He only hits the Yanks.
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That about sums it up. The Boston guys love to harp on this “Yankee killer” stuff. Guess there’s not much else for them to beat their chests about these days when it comes to the “rivalry.”
For my part, I’d have no interest in the guy.
*Heyman has THE blog today, that is
Thanks JAP.
I just wondered as I had never much about him until his ML appearance.
Did not seem to be on the radar.
Os have a similar schedule to us after Seattle. Lots of Jays and Red Sox. Sure hope this West Coast jaunt followed by three in Fenway knocks the stuffing out of them. Their last three games in Tampa might not be so hard if the Rays are out of the running for a play-off spot.
Me too Al.
He has the talent. Just needs to stay healthy IMO.
We’ll see.
MTU -
Those of us that watched him up close in SWB knew he was the real deal, and had he remained a Yankee, his first season in the ML would have been 1 year later, giving him more time to work on his game in MiLB, rather than being forced to learn at Detroit that first year.
“Their last three games in Tampa might not be so hard if the Rays are out of the running for a play-off spot.”
R U kidding ?
Ever hear the term “spoiler”.
When you got nothing else you try to take down the other guy.
Al-
Guess that’s why they pay you the big bucks.
Great win today and a great series overall.
Yanks have started to do some of the little things that help you win games in addition to obviously pitching better and swinging the bats.
The offense came through today and made ir happen….Kudos to Nunie who sort jump started everything.
Kuroda was great for most of the start…..the Rays lucky rabbits foot got them a few runs there but it wasnt enough….great job by the pen….Phelps may maje a big difference out there now as they can go to him in some key spots as a bridge to DRob.
Yanks have weathered the rough part if their schedule and will hold at least a one game lead…..the schedule favors them now….all they have to do is win games they win.
I hate this expanded inter-leage play. 2013 the Yankees open against the Mets.
Teams will not play the same teams the same number of games, so how can this be fair.
Yesterday, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports opined that Soriano would be making a mistake if he cut the cord on his three-year, $35MM contract in search of a better deal.
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It’s a risk because you never really know what’s out there until you become a free agents. Sure rumors float out there stating this team will do this…this team will offer this but it can all change.
Mike -
I do it for the love of the game.
The Return of Stoneburner September 16th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
I do think there is a need for some apologies about the Yanks being unable to develop their own pitching – it has not been perfect – but pretty decent here and especially on the horizon.
The Yanks have five pitchers on the staff that are homegrown and have played a role in this September: Hughes, Nova, Phelps, DRob, and Joba. The two big FA acquisitions on the staff are C.C. and Soriano. Logan was acquired via young pitching depth in Vizcaino (who is out injured and has since been traded by the Braves – who know a thing or two about evaluating pitching).
The Yanks then have on the horizon some nice young arms as no. 4 or 5 types in Nik Turley, Brett Marshall, and perhaps even Adam Warren – and then the higher end types with Banuelos (if healthy), Ramirez, Campos (if healthy), and then DePaula – to say nothing of another young crop Gallegos, Rincon, Vargas, Bautista and company behind them.
And then to say nothing of the young pen arms coming in Montgomery, Pinder, Goody, Nuding, Whitley, Clairborne, and company.
I do not think it has been fair and some credit is due to the young pitching that has already performed at the mlb level and that is on the way – – – -
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They have definitely improved from where they were yrs ago but as we all know there is still some heavy lifting to do. It all goes back to Generation Trey if two of the 3 pitchers reached their ceiling or came close to it there wouldn’t be so much resentment toward how they develop pitchers.
BIG AL September 16th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
I hate this expanded inter-leage play. 2013 the Yankees open against the Mets.
Teams will not play the same teams the same number of games, so how can this be fair.
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Is this how it will be every yr from here on out?
“Is this how it will be every yr from here on out?”
Yes, and I hate it!
I’ve decided that all great young ML playerere born in NJ need to come home and play for the Yankees.
Which means we get both Trout and Heyward.
Maybe David Price too ?
Like my plan ?
edit: players
MTU,
Send them all the greats from Utah, too!
Mike -
NJ doesn’t have a MLB team, but NY has two. Philly could lay claim to Trout, afterall he’s from south Jersey.
Good evening,… Alfred.
Tom-
Were there any ?
Maybe you are confusing this place with Oklahoma ?
Tom -
I thought the only thing Utah had was snakes and spiders, and an old guy that keeps bothering them with his hikes.
Al-
They could but why would he want to play for them when he could play for us.
Mike -
Philly Steaks!
Al-
You forgot to mention sand.
MTU,
Nope, no Utahns, but if there were any, we wouldn’t get them anyway.
Al-
The food in NY is way better.
Everyone knows that !
Mike -
OK, I forgot about the sand, afterall I thought it was all in that big box you play in.
Odds,
The Joba fiasco isn’t the only thing, but it’s the biggest screwup, as we’ve discussed many times. The sort of systemic, institutionalized issue seems to be the weird handling of the arms on the farm, not letting guys work out of trouble, stuuf like that. sorry typing with one arm. any way, I still don’t know how much is laid at the feet of Nardi, or if it resides higher up in the chain of command.
Yeah Al.
True. A really, really big box.
Just got back from the game. Kuroda looked dominant and should have gave up only a couple of runs if it was not for the wicked bounce.
I wish I could bring the same luck to the Yankees as I did for the Giants last year. I went to the Giants-Jets game last year, and the Giants went on to win the Super Bowl. Also goin on vacation tomorrow, last time I went on vacation was in 2009…..
Mike -
I think Trout is, and will continue to be a great player, if he stays healthy.
The way he plays the game. all out, might lead to injuries that could cost him. You can’t tell a player to be less aggressive, I wish he were a Yankee, but, I do enjoy watching him play, he’s special.
MTU September 16th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I’ve decided that all great young ML playerere born in NJ need to come home and play for the Yankees.
Which means we get both Trout and Heyward.
Maybe David Price too ?
Like my plan ?
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Raises hand!!!
Does anyone think Cashman would profit from a night a Holiday Inn Express ?
Oh wait a minute he’s already done that. Sorry.
Got to go. Y’all have a great day!
GO YANKEES!
Al-
Trout is is more than just a fish. He’s a stud.
BIG AL September 16th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
“Is this how it will be every yr from here on out?”
Yes, and I hate it!
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SMH crap big crap
How about a 1-way ride on the tras siberian express?
I’m in too, MTU. But… Trout is from South Jersey, so more from the Philly area, and a Phillies fan (boo!), so make sure that the stipulation is that players from the entire state of Jersey go to the NY Yankees, even if Trout isn’t a happy camper … at first.
*trans siberian express
I’ve gotta run too.
Dinner and then two of my fave shows “Into the West”, and “Hell on Wheels”.
that’s right YF! We sure have our share of Philth fans in Princeton!
Roger that YF, so stipulated.
Thanks for pointing that important clause out.
J. Alfred Prufrock September 16th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Odds,
The Joba fiasco isn’t the only thing, but it’s the biggest screwup, as we’ve discussed many times. The sort of systemic, institutionalized issue seems to be the weird handling of the arms on the farm, not letting guys work out of trouble, stuuf like that. sorry typing with one arm. any way, I still don’t know how much is laid at the feet of Nardi, or if it resides higher up in the chain of command.
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I think Nardi takes some of the blame he’s in charge of all those arms. But the ultimate blame lies with Cashman. He is the one that hires the scouts and development staff
Steal all of the Tampa development people.
See. That was easy.
See you in the morning, all. We’ll be in first plce, no mtter what happens in Oklnd. I’ll fix the key, promise.
Odds, they’d better not screw around with Jose Ramirez!
J. Alfred Prufrock September 16th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Odds, they’d better not screw around with Jose Ramirez!
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Hopefully not but would anyone be surprised if they did.
Even though couldn’t screw up J-Ram’s FB and CU, and they did teach him the slider.
Even *they couldn’t
MTU, you are welcome.
Nunie sprinted this way.