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Pettitte’s future with the Yankees

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Sep 17, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Andy Pettitte is finally scheduled to return to the mound for the Yankees tomorrow night against the Blue Jays at Yankee Stadium, his first start since that comebacker broke his ankle on June 27. He has made just nine starts and thrown only 58 2/3 innings in his comeback from a one-year retirement. The 40-year-old lefty was effective before getting hurt, going 3-3 with a 3.22 ERA. But he isn’t sure yet about coming back for another season.

That said, the injury has at least ensured the possibility of a return by the postseason’s all-time winningest pitcher.

“I hate it,” Pettitte said. “I wish I knew what I was going to do next year. But I’ll get to the offseason and think about it and try to figure out if this is something I want to do again or not.

“I can probably say that when I came back, I thought there was no chance that I was coming back (next season), that this was a one-year deal. But getting hurt and only having (about) 60 innings right now when you were hoping to have a couple hundred innings under your belt, it definitely gives me the option to consider coming back again next year, that’s for sure.

“I’m hoping to get a lot of work still this year. So we’ll what happens as this year continues on.”

While the Yankees could use to add a few more younger pieces to an aging team, who wouldn’t want to see Pettitte back?

The Yankees have won four of five and five of seven after yesterday’s small-ball/long-ball win over the Rays. Hope you can check out my linked article about it. I’ll have more on Pettitte in an article that will appear tomorrow on LoHud.com and in The Journal News. It should also be linked on my twitter feed, @bheyman99

 
 

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42 Responses to “Pettitte’s future with the Yankees”

  1. Cashmoney September 17th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    If P wants to come back, Yanks ought suit him up in August and just pitch in Sept and be ready for PS. I don’t think he is able to go thru the rigors of the season. Treat him like EL Duque. pretty much all i have to say about it.

  2. RadioKev September 17th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    If I were Pettitte I would honestly just retire after this season. There are no guarantees and most guys don’t get to go out on top.

  3. Cashmoney September 17th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    Yanks don’t need a lot of imaginations to get Nunez some Abs, get him in DH, SS and LF is my opinion. we see how the Yanks handle it next year, he might be traded by then.

  4. Cashmoney September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Nunez illustrates this… there are segment of Yankee fans who are thirsty to see home grown talents with some tools to play on this aging team. Yanks need to get younger with some legit youth and talents soon. Nunez is not even that good of player overall, but he is prolly the best and most ready guy we have.

  5. randy l. September 17th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    petitte is absolutely positively certain he’s not certain.

    “what do you want to do”

    “i dont know. what do you want to do”

    “i’ll do what you want to do”

    “sounds good”

    ‘what are we doing”

    “i have no idea”

    pettitte has been a great yankee but he screws up yankee planning almost every year and causes trades and plans to be put in motion that wouldn’t happen if he were more decisive.

  6. Cashmoney September 17th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    it gives me some pleasures to see Jose Valverde blow a crucial save. The man struck me as an village idiot and deek wad with his over the top antics.

  7. MG September 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Even though CC hasn’t pitched up to his usual standards most of the year he still hasn’t been that bad, even in his last 4 starts with an ERA of 4.67-that is essentially 3 runs in 6 innings.

    Kuroda, in his last 4 starts, has an ERA of 5.19 so hasn’t been pitching particularly well either-he was very good yesterday and without that idiot behind 1st base and the bad hope single would have only given up 1 run.

    Hughes has been the Yankees best starter over the same time period with an ERA of 2.88 yet some of you want him in the bullpen for the playoffs (of course, someone thinks CC should be out of the playoff rotation completely).

    I watched CC pretty carefully on Friday and don’t think he is hurt any more than any starting pitcher is by the end of a season after close to 200 innings. I think he is just in a slump and his mechanics are off. He did locate his fastball inside to right handed batters better on Friday than he has for awhile and was really good for 4 innings before the Rays got to him. The pitch that has been off all season is the change, I think that accounts for much of the issues with him this year because it’s been a great outpitch to righthanded batters ever since he joined the Yankees. He isn’t going to be a consistent lockdown starter without that coming back even if his fastball velocity gets back to his normal range (he did throw a couple of 95′s on Friday, you can’t do that if your arm or elbow is hurting a lot).

    The Yankees have no other choice but to keep pitching the same guys in rotation-Nova looked really good on Saturday and I expect Andy to come back strong tomorrow. They all have 3 or 4 more starts in the regular season and unless CC is actually hurt and can’t pitch he will go in game 1 of whatever playoff they are in.

  8. Shame Spencer September 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Randy – I tend to feel the same, that Pettite’s ‘will-I-or-won’t-I’ act is pretty tired, but if it means we can have an excuse to sign him for a fraction of what he might be worth if he’d decide sooner I guess we can’t complain too much.

    I’d like us to always operate as if he will not return, since I doubt he’ll ever give you 200 innings again.

  9. Mike Ri September 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    it gives me some pleasures to see Jose Valverde blow a crucial ———
    ——————-

    NO ME … espically when he’s your fantasy baseball closer and your in the playoffs ! .

  10. tomingeorgia September 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    After watching that Rays series, is anybody seriously still considering acquiring BJ Upton?

  11. Shame Spencer September 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    In the hypothetical world where all of our starters (CC, Kuroda, Andy, Hughes, and Nova) look solid in the next couple of weeks.. what will be interesting is this debate:

    Who do you trust more for long relief (I’ll categorize that as 3-4 innings) out of the pen: Nova, Phelps, or Garcia?

  12. NYYROC September 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Tom in GA.: I was thinking the same thing as I watched the games. BJ is a RH Grandy: low avg, high Ks. Except Grandy has more power and from what I’ve read, a better attitude.
    Not interested in BJ Upton. Would prefer someone who makes more contact.

  13. Shame Spencer September 17th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    tomingeorgia September 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    After watching that Rays series, is anybody seriously still considering acquiring BJ Upton?

    ——————–

    I think people would only want him as a part of a 4 player OF rotation. And I think that’s mostly on his skill set and cost (theoretically, only money and/or just much cheaper than the Upton we really want), but I don’t think anyone sees him as some sort of answer out there. His numbers aren’t that pretty. His splits aren’t platoon worthy. But he’s arguably a better 4th OF option than Ibanez or Jones.

  14. NYYROC September 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Also agree regarding Andy. I have all the respect in the world for what he has meant to the NYY and I am impressed with how he has pitched this year. Buy the not being able to make up his mind thing is old. Some argue he’s earned the right to think about it. Fine, then give him to the Winter Meetings to decide but he can’t leave the team hanging all Winter. I’d like him to come back.

  15. austinmac September 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Tom,

    It was amazing how Upton could not lay off the sliders off the plate. He looked like Alfonso Soriano. And no, I have grave doubts about him helping the Yankees.

    Shame, Upton won’t be looking for fourth OF money. He will get plenty as their isn’t much in the market to compete against him.

  16. NYYROC September 17th, 2012 at 9:57 am

    Upton ~ Soriano, good comp. He did look like Alfonso.

  17. Shame Spencer September 17th, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Austin – I totally agree but there was a time when the Yankees just spending money (regardless of exactly how much) was seen as preferable to spending prospects in a trade. I don’t think BJ fits the Yankees well either, and they’ll probably try a Victorino type player instead that costs less in dollars.. but I think old habits are hard to break with the fans and they see a relatively young guy, with speed, that ‘only costs money’ (as opposed to giving up a good chunk of the farm for his brother) as a preferable option.

    Personally, I would have had them sign Cedepes in the off season and not worry about this lol.

  18. MG September 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am

    I fail to see an issue with Andy taking time to make a decision about whether to pitch or not because it won’t change any thinking for the Yankees.

    Cashman is on record as saying they offered Andy a $10M contract to pitch in 2012 last December-Andy turned it down so they signed Kuroda.

    If Andy says ‘Yes’ they don’t sign Kuroda and, if Andy gets hurt the same way at the same time, they probably aren’t fighting for the AL East right now.

    Andy took a minor league contract and was not guaranteed of anything-he’s earned a spot in the rotation because he’s pitched so well.

    He also gives the Yankees a much better chance of winning #28 this year with him in the rotation and pitching up to his standards, can anyone dispute that on any level?

    He will make a decision again this winter, it may come early and it may come late-if it comes late and he pitches again, the Yankees staff will be enhanced and the ability to win another championship is also enhanced, period.

  19. Shame Spencer September 17th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Like I said before, I hope Andy keeps waiting until Feb to decide so we can keep handing him no more than $2 million a season lol.

  20. Shame Spencer September 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    @entylawyer

    Baby girl gets free tickets for life after being born in NASCAR parking lot
    ——————-

    I don’t love NASCAR. But I do love this story.

  21. Cashmoney September 17th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    good for the little girl.. but it also tells me the mother is attending a sports event on the eve of laboring…

  22. Cashmoney September 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Mike, my condolence on your fantasy team… just not a big fan of Valverde.

  23. jacksquat September 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    I think Cashman should tell Pettitte they’d be happy to have him back, but he needs a decision by [date].

  24. Carlo September 17th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    It’s amazing what two wins this weekend, a one game lead, and the return of Pettitte has done to my outlook. Likely speaks more to my mental instability and emotion driven thoughts than anything else, but i feel good today about a division title.

    I wont get constructive on the post season however until Sabathia gets it together. For now, my only prevailing hope in October is the “anything can happen if you get hot” concept.

  25. Carlo September 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    MG September 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
    I fail to see an issue with Andy taking time to make a decision about whether to pitch or not because it won?t change any thinking for the Yankees.

    ———————–

    Tough to say that his decision doesnt impact their thought process. No matter how you cut it, you have 5 starting spots that you spend real dollars on. You dont spend mid 7 figures or more on potential #6 starters. Phelps gives them the luxury of having a more than capable odd man out if they get aggressive this offseason and Andy decides late to come back, but with CC looking like an injury report is in the cards in the offseason, i think we will need a decision on Andy in a relatively short timeframe so we can explore all avenues thoroughly. He deserves the respect of being granted time, but the fans deserve the best product possible and in a way, the time he takes, hampers gettng the best product possible. I dont see how this is disputable.

  26. 86w183 September 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Guys, apparently you didn’t notice that Alfonso Soriano has had a damn good career. Upton is Soriano with more speed, less power and a MUCH better glove.

    Yes, he goes thru funks were he can’t lay off sliders down and away but guess what, so does A-Rod, so does Granderson and so does Cano.

    He’s not a fourth OF, he’s a legit player, a potential all-star who is only 28. I’m not breaking the bank for him, but I’d take him over Swisher or Granderson for the next four years.

    You can’t get younger and more athletic without taking some chances

  27. DONNYBROOK September 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    - SUNDAY GAME OBSERVATIONS -

    (1) Nunez’s impact on that game and the Yankee offense, expose the Yankee Hierarch as Clueless. Man shoulda NEVER been exiled.

    (2) Madden made an ass outta himself, and showed he realized how imperative it was to Not lose 5 outta 6 at this juncture to teams the Rays are chasing. Again, if Madden were inna major media market, he would be run outta town onna rail.

    (3) Pearce should be relegated to the Pine. Much like Roberto Duran, he has “Hands Of Stone”. Acquiring Pearce was another Clueless Move by the Yankee Hierarchy.

    (4) Girardi finally realizing the error of his ways, and bunting outta the 2 Hole. ANYONE that has ever constructed a “small ball” batting order knows your best OBP guy goes Leadoff, and a dependable contact hitter that can also bunt goes in the 2 Hole.

    (5) Once Jeet is healthy and playing SS, Nunez should DH vs lefties, and Jones rides the pine. Forget the Lefty-Righty, “by the book” BS, and use Dickerson when necessary. A Mgr can do more things with Dickerson offensively, and Jones is a flat-out Albatross.

  28. 86w183 September 17th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    I suspect Kuroda OR Pettitte will be Yankees in 2013 but not both.

    If both come back then Hughes or Nova will be packaged with Phelps/Warren, Nunez and one of the OF prospects in an effort to acquire a young OF bat.

  29. Shame Spencer September 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    jacksquat September 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    I think Cashman should tell Pettitte they’d be happy to have him back, but he needs a decision by [date].

    ——————-

    I don’t mind them having an open ended understanding, tbh, as long as a part of that understanding is we have a budget and Andy can’t demand anything really other than a spot. I mean, in 2014 if Andy still wants to pitch and wants to get paid, I’m personally all for it… but I’m not in charge of the budget lol.

  30. blake September 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    BJ is a pretty good player but hes almost certain to be overpaid in a couple of mknthw and hes not really the type player the Yanks need IMO…..they have enough low average guys….they need more well rounded hitters.

    Id love to have Andy back but the issue with him is that I just dont see how you can pencil him in for a full season…..I know his i jury this time was a fluke….but Im not sure he can go a full year……Id lkve it if he could stay in shape and thenjoin the club in like June if they need him….but thats unrealistic to.expect of Andy. I really think they need one of Kuroda/Andy to return…..would love both.

    I can see a situation where the Yanks starting piching is crazy good and crazy deep next year…..if a bunch of hings turn up roses…..lije Pineda coming back strong….Hughes and Nova and Phelps progessing…..Banuelos finally getting on track healthy……..

  31. Shame Spencer September 17th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    86 – I didn’t mean to imply Upton is a 4th OFer, I was just saying in our plans, he’d probably be shuffled around. Then again, I like going into every season with 6 viable starter options and 4 viable OF options because those are where injuries are more expected (from my perspective anyway, I can’t be sure that’s actually true, just seems to happen a lot lol).

    Right now, with Jones and Ibanez as our OFers, I’m not surprised people would be happy with Upton on the roster lol. If he’s getting upwards of 10 million per, you can forget it though.

  32. LGY September 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Donnybrook

    Any observations on Kershaw East?

  33. yankee21 September 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    I think Cashman should tell Pettitte they’d be happy to have him back, but he needs a decision by [date]…..

    this.

  34. DONNYBROOK September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    - LGY -
    Like most young Chuckers, Kershaw East suffers from Not knowing how to extricate himself from 1 bad inning. In general, his current problem is between the ears, which will vanish with experience. There is No question regarding Britton’s dominant arsenal. Thanks for asking.
    The REAL Kershaw has serious physical problems going forward. The Dodgers have gotta be concerned with their current chances at a Playoff birth, and the longterm committment\contract they have with Kershaw.

  35. austinmac September 17th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Shame,

    I do much prefer going the free agent route than trading away the future. With that in mind, I had suggested Upton, but he looked pretty easy to pitch to and looked like a mistake hitter only.

  36. LGY September 17th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Donnybrook

    Real Kershaw only needed about 100 innings as a 20 year old to become one of the best pitchers in baseball.

    Maybe you need to find a new comp for Britton.

  37. fantasygame101 September 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    c.c, kuroda, hughes, nova and andy all coming back will be enough for next season as long as c.c. pitches lika an ace, kuroda slide into no. 2 and both nova and hughes continue to improve. Hopefully pineda, banuelos will be providing depth in the minors. This will allow the yankees to get needed bats to complement jeter, arod, tex, cano and gardner. More contact hitters with average slugging.

  38. jacksquat September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Soriano should opt out, especially if Mo says he is coming back. Even if Mo retires, Soriano can take the $1.5mil buyout, and then only need at a minimum a $12.5m one year deal to match what he would get from the Yankees. Given that he’ll end the season with about 45 saves and a 2 ERA, it is likely he could get at least a 12.5m deal somewhere, so he’d have nothing to lose by opting out and many millions to gain.

  39. Jerkface September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Why are we comparing Zach Britton and Kershaw? They are the same age and Kershaw has not had an ERA above 3 in 800 innings. Throws harder. Has a more diverse arsenal.

  40. Tar September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    “Pettitte has been a great yankee but he screws up yankee planning almost every year and causes trades and plans to be put in motion that wouldn’t happen if he were more decisive.”

    If the situation was reversed, and Cash was waiting for a descion from another pitcher before he could commit to Andy, he wouldn’t hesitate. Andy has earned every right to take as long as he wants

  41. champ809 September 17th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    The yanks would be an infinitely better team over the next 4-5 years with a lineup that includes Robbie @ 2B and Josh Hamilton in RF than one that has Grandy in CF… Would be a much wiser investment considering the risks with each player 5yrs/100-110MM for Josh than 5-7yrs @ 18-20MM for Grandy.

    Move Gardner over to CF for now and in the minors you have 4-5 prospects who prfile out better as CF’ers than Rf’ers in Mason,Slade,Melky Mesa,Abe Almonte and Ravel Santana to take over for Gardy in a year or two when he becomes expensive.

    Gardy Cf
    Jeet SS
    Cano 2B
    ARod DH
    Josh RF
    Tex 1B

  42. LordD99 September 18th, 2012 at 1:49 am

    Randy, I agree. Yet I’ll be happy if he returns and gives the Yankees 20 starts and is available for the postseason. He looked sharp while pitching, so he’s clearly not done.

    His indecision has made the Yankees planning difficult, and he’s cost himself millions of dollars in the process. I do think he’ll be back, unless the Yankees bring in #28 this year and Pettitte wants to go out on top. He keeps saying he wants to be with his family, but his family wants to kick him out of the house to go pitch!


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