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Postgame notes: “We had plenty of chances”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Sep 29, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees keep talking about controlling their own destiny, but that only matters if they take advantage. It only helps them if they win games like this one.

The Blue Jays had two of their more dangerous hitters on the bench. Their 5.77-ERA starter coudln’t pitch beyond the third inning, and his replacement hadn’t pitched in the big leagues since 2010. The Yankees loaded the bases with no outs in two of the first three innings, the Blue Jays made another laughable baserunning mistake, and Toronto’s game-tying hit seemed to be headed foul before Alex Rodriguez grabbed it and failed to make a play.

It wasn’t the first winnable game that the Yankees let slip away this season, but with four games left on the schedule and the Orioles still in pursuit, it just might have been their most glaring letdown of the season.

“It just wasn’t a good game for us,” Andy Pettitte said. “It wasn’t a good game for me pitching. They hit some balls hard. When you’re seeing your center fielder’s number the whole game, and you’re the starting pitcher, you don’t feel real good about that. We definitely didn’t do a good job with runners in scoring position. We could have added on, for sure.

“We need to play good. When we get opportunities right now, we need to take advantage of them and get runs in. And we’ve got to, as a pitching staff, got to make pitches and grind out there right now. It’s a battle and we’ve just got to continue to fight through. Four games left. Heck, hopefully we can win all four.”

There’s no silver lining to this game, and absolutely no one in the Yankees clubhouse tried to spin it as anything other than what it was.

“Obviously when you got a guy on the ropes early on, you want to capitalize on it,” Alex Rodriguez said. “It’s never a good sign when you let the other team hang around a little bit. But we had plenty of chances.”

The Yankees left 10 men on base and went 2-for-11 with runners in scoring position. Neither of those hits actually drove in a run. Pettitte’s final regular-season tuneup was his least impressive since the ankle injury. He had trouble commanding his fastball and allowed his first runs since coming off the disabled list. Joe Girardi went to Joba Chamberlain with runners at the corners in the sixth, and Chamberlain allowed the game-winning double to the first batter he faced.

It was bad. A bad loss at a bad time.

“We put ourselves in this situation, and destiny is in our own hands,” Nick Swisher said. “We’ve got to go out and take it. No one is going to give us nothing. These guys are fighting just like we are. There’s a lot of guys over there fighting for spots next year, things like that, and we’re fighting to go into the postseason. There’s a lot of battling going on and when it boils down to it, we’ve just gotta pick up those W’s. That’s really all that matters.”

• When the Blue Jays tied the game in the fifth, they did so on Rajai Davis’ two-out infield single down the third-base line. The ball seemed to be hooking foul when Rodriguez grabbed it and tried to get the out at first. “I haven’t seen (a replay),” Rodriguez said. “But 9 out of 10, I think it would have gone foul. But again, with Rajai running, you have a split-second decision and I took my chances. I couldn’t tell, to be honest with you. I was up for the bunt and it was hugging the line, and it was one of those things where you’ve got to make a decision. I just took the more aggressive approach.”

• Aside from two walks, it was another lost day at the plate for Rodriguez. “I don’t feel too bad,” he said. “I’m feel like I’m getting a little bit better. The walks are good, and you build on that. But it really doesn’t matter how we feel right now. We just gotta get it done.”

• Speaking of lost at the plate, Andruw Jones struck out in his only at-bats before being replaced by Raul Ibanez. “It’s a situation where we don’t have Tex today,” Girardi said. “I put Andruw out there. He hit a homer off a lefty the other day and looked pretty good swinging the other day, so I put him out there.”

• Eduardo Nunez hit the ball hard today, but he was lifted for defense after the fifth inning, replaced by Derek Jeter, who had been the DH. “I knew that that spot’s not going to come up again before Andy’s out,” Girardi said. “… I have to do what I feel is best.”

• Looked like a blown call on Brett Gardner’s stolen base attempt in the eighth. “(The umpire) said he waited to make sure he didn’t drop the ball, but he had him,” Girardi said. “I said, ‘No he didn’t. I can see from where I’m at.’”

• Maybe it’s too much of a simplification, but the Yankees really seemed to strikeout in huge spots today. “You just hope they put it in play, that’s the bottom line,” Girardi said. “You just hope they put it in play. Whatever it takes.”

• Girardi on the decision to pull Pettitte in the sixth after 94 pitches: “We had just said 90-95 pitches. We knew we were pushing it at that point. After the last pitch he threw, we just said we’re going to make a change.”

• Pettitte on being pulled: “I never want to come out of a game. Too, you realize he watches you and he sees how balls are being hit, and I definitely was leaving balls in the middle of the plate. Of course, I would have loved to have been able to stay out there and try to get that out.”

• Pettitte on his outing: “I didn’t feel like I was in a real good rhythm. I felt like I was getting there. Maybe the third or fourth inning I felt like maybe I was finding a little something, but just didn’t have real good command. Didn’t have real good command of my fastball, was able to locate it away pretty good, but everything else just wasn’t quite where I wanted it. … When you can’t push guys off the plate and keep them off your offspeed stuff, it makes it really difficult. I was having a real hard time getting the ball in when I wanted to go in. That was a problem today that I was having for sure.”

• Barring a surprise decision to pitch him on short rest, this will be Pettitte’s final start before the playoffs. “I’m ready,” Pettitte said. “Whatever comes my way, I’m ready to do it. I think I’m about where I thought I would be which is a good spot. I got my pitch count up and hopefully we can get our stuff together in the next start.”

• Swisher said he has no desire to check the Baltimore score tonight. “I don’t worry about that,” he said. “I know that if we play the way we’re capable of playing, everything takes care of itself. Tonight was kind of a little lull, but we’ll be back here tomorrow bright and early ready to go.”

• Worth mentioning that Swisher made another nice, heads up play at first base to get Gomes out at third base and end the sixth.

• Girardi said Mark Teixeira remains probable for the upcoming Boston series. “I guess he had a real good day,” Girardi said. “He ran well, said he felt really good. I’ll probably try to get a chance to talk to him today. We could see him maybe against Boston.”

• Final word goes to Girardi: “You feel that you’re going to get more (runs), but you never know. You look at the opportunities that you have and you say, ‘We could have a pretty big lead here.’ We didn’t do it. … We’ll shake it off. We’ll bounce back. We always have.”

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343 Responses to “Postgame notes: “We had plenty of chances””

  1. TheStraw September 29th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Mark Feinsand

    Why does Joe Girardi keep playing Andruw Jones? Here’s his answer:
    “It’s a situation where we don’t have Tex today. I put Andruw out there; he hit a homer off a lefty the other day and looked pretty good swinging the other day, so I put him out there.” 2 minutes ago

    He’s an idiot.

  2. mick September 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    “It’s a situation where we don’t have Tex today,” Girardi said. “I put Andruw out there. He hit a homer off a lefty the other day and looked pretty good swinging the other day, so I put him out there.”
    ==========================
    For those who thought I mde this up, here it is again.
    Joe actually said it…

  3. mick September 29th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    Looks like we and TB had a “temporary lull” as Swish said.
    They are routing the Hwite Sox which is good for us, we want them alive when they face the O’s.
    No matter what, we are not machines who will go out and win everyday, we will lose here and there, it’s an ebb and flow.
    We will be refreshed tmw and into boston at home….the lull is over.

  4. Bo knows September 29th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    We will be refreshed tmw and into boston at home….the lull is over.
    ——
    From your lips……..

  5. Tidrow September 29th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    If you could only get rid of one who would it be Cashman or Girardi? If the only way you could get rid of Girardi would be to hire Bobby Valentine would you do it? I’d definitely get rid of Cashman before i would Girardi. I’d rather have Girardi than Valentine.

  6. mick September 29th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Look at Oak scratch and claw.

  7. blake September 29th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    I have nothing to say about todays game.

  8. TheStraw September 29th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Tough call, Tidrow. I think Cash has generally been ok as a GM, but needs to move on now. I would like to see what Girardi would do with a different roster, but I suspect he’d screw that up too.

  9. mick September 29th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Oak is for real….14 th walk off

  10. Madrugador September 29th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    “We will be refreshed tmw and into boston at home….the lull is over.”

    I don’t think this about ebb and flow. The Jays put a man on second with no outs and managed to get that run in. We had that situation and failed multiple times today. The Yanks are not situational hitters. They can’t move a runner to third with a ground ball to the right side. They can’t put the ball into the outfield for a sac fly. They have played like this all year so this shouldn’t surprise me and it doesn’t. It does mightily disappoint me.

  11. Brappy55 September 29th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    I still don’t buy Oakland. They get lucky. They have a bunch of scrubs on that team

  12. Madrugador September 29th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Oakland with two runs to tie in the bottom of the 9th and three runs in the 10th for the win. Are you kidding me?! That is what good teams do and they do it a lot. You can’t say that about the Yanks.

  13. CompassRosy September 29th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    OK, Tabbert ~

    Maybe your assumption of an A’s sweep was a good call :(

    Really a shame for Jason Vargas. He he went 7 innings in this, his final 2012 start, and stood to earn his 15th victory up until the bottom of the 9th when the typically reliable Wilhelmsen blew the save. Pryor gave up the winning runs in the 10th.

    Kudos to the A’s and their 14th walk-off win of the season.

    Good news is…
    this is bad news for the Halos ;)

    btw – M’s finding their power late…
    today marked the 18th consecutive game that the M’s have hit at least one home run (their club record is 19) and with his 19th homer this season, Saunders became the M’s first 20/20 player since 2002.

    Baby steps.

  14. Yankees_Fan September 29th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    I’ve never been one of those that simply rips Girardi for any reason, but every quote in this post points to a man that either doesn’t know what he is doing, has lost confidence in his decisions and is shooting to the sky hoping a bullet will fall where it should or a guy too full of himself to admit his mistakes.

    I know managing in NY with the nasty media is hard, but Girardi seems to be about to lose it both on the field and off the field. Every decision he made today backfired bigtime and it doesn’t take a baseball expert to know why. Girardi shows to be stubborn even on decisions obviously wrong and was worse is that he repeats them. He sounds like a lost man hoping to be saved from himself.

    Don’t like at all the signs we are getting from the skip…

  15. CompassRosy September 29th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    **EDIT** got a bit ahead of myself ;)

    with his 19th homer this season, Saunders *has a chance to become* the M’s first 20/20 player since 2002.

  16. CompassRosy September 29th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Brappy55 September 29th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    I still don’t buy Oakland. They get lucky. They have a bunch of scrubs on that team

    ****

    How can you even classify them as “scrubs” yet?

    I believe I heard they have used as many as 19 rookies this season (even more than the M’s). Seems to me they would need to play a couple/three years to get any sort of label.

  17. tucker September 29th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    The thing about Cash, we really don’t know how much cash he has to work with. If he has a tight budget to work with, he really has few options other than the Raul Ibanez’s of the world. That said, it was a bad offseason for him.

    Montero is obviously a divisive trade, but here are other moves that have backfired:

    Quintana
    Justin Maxwell
    George Kontos

    Those are three pretty big whiffs by Cashman & Co.

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    mick – help me out here.

    If O’s lose tonight, Yanks then have 4 games to win the division and 1 to win the WC, is that correct? If the O’s and Oakland both lost, would the Yanks have clinched the WC?

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    The Sux look like they are really trying to win this game. Doubront doing a good job so far, even though the O’s have a 1-run lead.

  20. Yankees_Fan September 29th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Baltimore already with a lead.

  21. rr212 September 29th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    good for the O’s. They are playing really well right now. This team better step it up a notch tomorrow or they’re in trouble.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Oh boy. It must be nice to be a team whose fan base has had no expectation and whose management has basically paralleled that.

  23. Brappy55 September 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    3-0 Orioles. Chris Davis homered. Unreal.

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Sux do have the ability to come back.

    If Rays can stave off elimination until Monday, their last 3 games of the season will definitely have the ability to be our best friend.

  25. JobaTipsHisCap September 29th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Sux will lose all 3 games vs. BAL, and try to win their final series.

    Yanks will blow it.

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    YAHOO!!!!

    3-2.

    From my mouth to Salty’s ears.

    :)

  27. sunny615 September 29th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Girardi. You’re an idiot. Keep parading jones out there. See how you like the wildcard.

  28. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    would never happen but…..Cano for Harper

  29. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    Brappy55 September 29th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    I still don’t buy Oakland. They get lucky. They have a bunch of scrubs on that team
    —————————-
    they are 1 game behind the Yankees

  30. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Never would happen is right. I don’t think Harper’s for sale.

  31. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Arod..2/24 since 9/23….and he with his slow bat is here for how many more years

  32. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    Never would happen is right. I don’t think Harper’s for sale.

    ———————————-
    everyone is for sale…just look thru the years

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Doubront will definitely be one of the top pitchers for the Sux next season.

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    joeman, I don’t know why the Nats would ever give up Bryce Harper. They don’t need pitching. And why would you trade away Bryce’s bat for another bat? And while everyone may be for sale eventually, you also know that there are teams who make it clear that certain players will not be part of a trade package. I’d say Harper and Strasburg are pretty untouchable at this point in time.

  35. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
    Doubront will definitely be one of the top pitchers for the Sux next season
    ——————————————-
    a #3 SP if they don’t pick up anyone #4 if they do

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    joeman, are you good at figuring out team elimination?

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    And not a bad 3 or 4!

  38. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Good start to the inning. Buck’s taking Johnson out.

  39. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    I guess you’re not.

    Well if anyone is around who knows how to figure out elimination with 2 WC, please make yourself known. I have a few questions. (Obviously I’m not good at figuring it out.)

  40. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    joeman, are you good at figuring out team elimination
    —————————————-
    try me..if I can’t someone will….here or email let me know

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    There ya go Suxers!!!! Good on ya!!!

  42. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Okay. Rays are 2 games away from elimination for the WC. Does that mean that any combination of their losses and wins or any of the teams in front of them, that adds up to 2, eliminates them?

    In other words, if the O’s won tonight and the Ys won tomorrow, would the Rays be eliminated?

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    COME ON DOUBRONT! HOLD ‘EM!

  44. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    Okay. Rays are 2 games away from elimination for the WC. Does that mean that any combination of their losses and wins or any of the teams in front of them, that adds up to 2, eliminates them?

    In other words, if the O’s won tonight and the Ys won tomorrow, would the Rays be eliminated
    ——————————
    -quick look I would say yes

  45. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Rays are running out of games…

  46. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    huge game for the Yankees tomorrow and like that they play the Sox at home…today was a huge loss though

  47. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Damn!

    The one thing I don’t want is for the Rays to be eliminated before the O’s get there.

    If the Sux could beat them the next two games that would be great. I hate to say it, but even if it meant the Ys losing tomorrow – I’d rather have the O’s march into Tampa with the Rays still playing for a spot. That would be nothing but good for us.

  48. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Arod is a shell of himself…injuries and whatever else has a lot to do with it..

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    He was looking so good before he went down with his injury – and he was looking so good as soon as he came back. Then it just kind of stopped.

  50. umbrelladoc September 29th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    The Rays elimination number of 2 has to do with the A’s. The Yankees and O’s can win and it will not eliminate them from the second wild card, as they are chasing the A’s right now.

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    umbrelladoc, please explain more! So then if the A’s win and the Rays lose, Rays are eliminated, correct?

  52. ricardo1020 September 29th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    Brappy55 September 29th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    I still don’t buy Oakland. They get lucky. They have a bunch of scrubs on that team

    The Yankees could use a few “scrubs” like Oakland’s. Instead we have gems like Smiley Jones and the ghost of Alex Rodriguez being run out there on a daily basis by the binder boy! Don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t exactly feel confident facing those “scrubs” in a one game WC scenario.

  53. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    Well yahoo then! It appears that their fate is in their own hands. And they can definitely hurt the O’s!

  54. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    I believe the # is 2 with Oak…down 3 with 4 to play

  55. CompassRosy September 29th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    @shannondrayer: RT @BMcCarthy32: Guys I think Bob Melvin might be a witch

    :)

  56. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
    Well yahoo then! It appears that their fate is in their own hands. And they can definitely hurt the O’s!

    ——————————–
    two Oak W’s takes care of the Rays..no matter what they do

  57. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Machado homers to make it 4-3.

  58. ricardo1020 September 29th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    o’s back on top of Sux 4-3. Our only hope is if Buck has borrowed Joe’s binder for the night.

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    joeman – oh yeah.

  60. Yankees_Fan September 29th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    O’s keep fighting back.

  61. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    joeman – unless the Rays get beat tomorrow, they should live to see Monday. Then you gotta love the final matchups. A’s face the Rangers and O’s face the Rays. Talk about dogfights! A’s are going to fighting for both the wild card and the division.

  62. Purenyyankee September 29th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    “We’ll shake it off. We’ll bounce back. We always have.” Is Stump serious?? We always have?? Did he forget his pathetic, inconsistent, selfish team blew a 10 game lead? If you can’t beat Minny and Toronto, you deserve to go the hell home!!

  63. bruceb September 29th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    O’s keep fighting back.

    Unlike the team we root for.

  64. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Pearce’s wife just had a baby. Maybe that’s part of the reason he was the one to go.

  65. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Rays ever get some hitting in 2013 with the SPing they have ….watch out…and if they do they will be my prop bet to win the WS next year

  66. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    You know, the Yankees might be like me – someone who needs an atom bomb to go off before she decides it’s time to get in gear. I could never do papers ahead of time, I could never study for an exam unless it was right on top of me. I always needed last-minute panic to kick in before I could get off a dime. Maybe the Yankees need that same kind of negative motivation.

  67. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    trish rootin for the sox, never thought id see the day…

  68. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    All the Sux need is a blast to tie it. A bloop and a blast to go ahead.

    Just do something!

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    mick – I call it the only way I can root against the O’s! Self preservation has kicked in.

    :)

  70. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    go sux,yeah lets go sox!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  71. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Come on you wonderful Red Sox! I know you can do it!

  72. joeman September 29th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    …Sox friends of mine are rooting for a O’s sweep

  73. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    WELCOME TO BIZZARRO WORLD!!!!!!!
    WHere black is white, wrong is right….

  74. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    I left Camden 3 weeks ago with a 1 game lead and dammit I will leave there tonight with the same……

  75. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    “…Sox friends of mine are rooting for a O’s sweep”

    You should have heard the EEI broadcasters after the Ys lost. You can imagine that they’re just licking their chops at the thought of any possibility that the Ys could be knocked out of the posteason.

  76. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    You at Camden mick???

  77. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    I can usually predict a Yankee win or loss by gametime and today did not fare well.
    Even I was down today as I napped thru the innings 3-4 as Jones left 5 men on base.

    But I swear to you now, today was the last loss of the regular season for our Yankees…

    I GUARANTEE IT.

  78. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    mick – I believe ya.

  79. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    In my mind I am at Camden trish…

  80. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Ah, gotcha.

  81. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    We will win our 4 remaining games.
    Can the O’s say the same?

  82. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Poor Rays. Unless something extremely unlikely happens, their days are really numbered.

    I just wonder how hard they’d play the O’s if they were eliminated altogether.

  83. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Was at The Yard for the 13-3 Sunday drubbing.

  84. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    TB will be alive for their 3 game set vs the O’s.

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    “Can the O’s say the same?”

    I’m seriously thinking no. And unless the Rays blow it tomorrow, they will live to see Monday. Their games will go on before the A’s game, so they won’t know whether or not they are eliminated Monday by the time they play, so they will still be playing for their lives.

  86. sunny615 September 29th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    The sad reality that the Yankees have to rely on the Dead Sox to help them win the division. How lame.

  87. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    “The sad reality that the Yankees have to rely on the Dead Sox to help them win the division. How lame.”

    It is.

  88. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    These are not your fathers Yankees.
    That dynasty has died….
    Ease your pain.

  89. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Well the Sux have good hitters for the top of the 9th. Where’s Fat Sloppy when you need him?

  90. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Tazawa is someone we’d love to have in our pen.

  91. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    3 divisions and 1 WC already decided in the NL.

    Nothing decided in the AL.

  92. sunny615 September 29th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Well the Sux have good hitters for the top of the 9th. Where’s Fat Sloppy when you need him?

    ====

    Golfing back home in the Dominican probably.

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Probably

  94. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    It is pathetic to root for the Red Sox to help this needy team keep pace with the Baltimore Orioles – let me say that again – THE BALTIMORE ORIOLES. We need help? What is wrong with you people?

  95. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    NO FLIPPIN’ WAY

    What’s this, Jeffrey Maier retribution by the baseball gods?

  96. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    Eh. And there you have it sportsfans.

    Bret, too bad you weren’t around to say those things during today’s game…

  97. Yankees_Fan September 29th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Yanks don’t do their job. The O’s keep their march and capitalize.

    Tied with 4 to go.

  98. JM September 29th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    You gotta give the O’s credit. Not sure how they keep doing it, but there you are.

  99. mick September 29th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Balt has clinched a tie in the WC with TB
    (wonder what their head to head is?)

  100. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    If we are to win the division and beat out the Baltimore Orioles – THE BALTIMORE ORIOLES – I would feel much better about this team if they did it without getting help. I feel kind of ashamed that they need help in the first place, never mind us kneeling down and groveling to the Red Sox. It’s just too disappointing to be reduced to that.

  101. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    And the Sux are pitching a kid who has started in exactly one game and gave up 9 ER when he did. I think we can all see where this is going. Of course they saved their best for us.

  102. fantasygame101 September 29th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    I think that if the yankees does not win the division, girardi should be gone.

  103. bruceb September 29th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    OMG. The Sox lost to the Orioles again tonight. What a surprise! The only surprise is that they managed to lose by only one run. That will be rectified tomorrow when they have a no-name on the mound so they can save Lester and Bucholz to face us.

    Sound like sour grapes? Well, after choking away two games this week in Minnesota and Toronto the Yanks only have themselves to blame.

    To be honest, I’ll be surprised if we do better than 2-2 in our last four games. Wild card crapshoot here we come.

  104. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    balt is 9-6 v TB
    TB must sweep them if they both win tmw…
    (wonder what their div records are?)

  105. Yankees_Fan September 29th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    JM, they just don’t care about the names or the stars, they just don’t give up and there is always a guy able to pick the rest up. Meanwhile, the Yanks have guys who seem to not want it that much and who simply expect the next guy to pick them up while they don’t deliver.

  106. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    mick – they own the Rays, something like 9-6

  107. bruceb September 29th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Orioles 28-9 in one-run games this year. What are we? 8-29?

  108. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Randy’s mantra was always that the Yankees were going to win the division because neither the Rays nor the O’s were very good.

    I wonder what tune he’s whistling right now.

    It’s tough to call the O’s anything BUT good.

  109. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Yanks have 2nd most runs in the majors; O’s have 14th.

    Yanks ERA is 12th highest in the majors; O’s is 15th.

    Yanks SP ERA is 15th highest in the majors; O’s is 22nd.

    Yanks RP ERA is 14th; O’s is 5th.

    I think I’ve solved the mystery.

  110. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    I have Balt at 41-27 and TB 39-30 in Div.
    That’s a 2 1/2 game lead for Balt.
    Tmw could be 3.

    TB would have to sweep Balt.

    What is the 3rd tiebreaker?

  111. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    3)The team with the best record in the final 81 games of the season, ignoring interleague play.

    That’s a tough one..

  112. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    It was when he had our bench players and kids in the game that the Yankees made the most noise, when they got the most accomplished. You look at the run of games where we actually played small ball and hit with RISP. I guarantee you that it didn’t happen with the regular Yankee lineup.

  113. NYY_Girl_Penny September 29th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Do we even have a winning record since the ASG or are we under .500 ?

    Arod makes 30m per year for what ? How many more years do we watch him play half seasons and watch his plummeting production ? Pretty scary that Arod can no longer hit a ball out .. He keeps saying, ” doesnt matter who we just gotta get it done!” Failing to take ownership of the fact that he is helping us lose each and eery game. Does he ever get to the point where he is so ashamed of his salary that he renegotiates to HELP the team ? Affer all hes such a team player! NOT! im fed up with the of “im seeing the ball well and feeling good” so in other words hes Admitting that he has not the skill to do anything? Man hes suffering he after effects of steroids big time.. Body falling apart and very weak , but of course he never used roids as a NYY .. I do wanna say that ive never once boo’e Arod . Ive always given him unconditional support and believed in him .. But no more, enoughs enough he isnt Derek Jeter .. We’ve watched Alex decline for years now , he aint ever gonna be a #4 hitter or even close to it. Sadly i wish it was just arod that was the issue but the rest of our .200+ BA’s dont do much better, maybe we should give them all 30mil a year…

    Lastly, how many times are people gomma “count on” Tex to get he job done and be disappointed before they accpt him for what he is as well ? Adding Tex back — aside from defense — is just adding another player with the same stuggles that is hurting us now.

    Girardi better be fired if we dont win the AL East!

  114. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    If Balty wins tmw then TB sweeps them they are 9-9 vs each other and tied at 42-30 in division
    Incredible

    unless balt lose tmw…

  115. RMS September 29th, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Yanks pissed away a 10 game lead. Only have themselves to blame.

  116. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    mick – don’t know if this helps:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  117. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    This will probably be the first season ever that the Yanks clinch something and I don’t feel any excitement.

  118. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Right now we are one of a bunch of teams that could win it all.
    We are not the favorite.
    Repeat:
    We are not the favorite.
    Major disappointment would have been if we lost in 98-00, not in 96.
    So, while not quite an underdog, we are a dog in the hunt.

    Look at it that way, it might ease the pain.

  119. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    If they have the 2nd most runs in the majors and are 12th in ERA, 15th in SP, it probably tells you that if we had even decent SP throughout the season, we’d probably have clinched already.

  120. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    I’m not feeling a whole lot pain. Just a whole lot of nothing.

  121. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Penny,

    Arod is a broken down ballplayer but he is going to milk the disabled list for the next 5-6 years because his pride and ego is based on his income – not his performance. Is he going to feel so humiliated that he will pay money to avoid the humiliation? I doubt it – I think he feels losing money is a humiliating experience in and of itself.

  122. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    3. Higher winning percentage in the last half of intraleague games.

    trish these tiebreakers are only for who gets homefield, they still play the game.

  123. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    If the Ys win the world series this year, I’ll feel like they stole it. Which is okay I guess since other teams have stolen it in the past.

  124. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    mick – sorry. I didn’t even look at it, just saw that it said tiebreaker rules.

  125. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    it probably tells you that if we had even decent SP throughout the season, we’d probably have clinched already.
    ===============
    it also tells you if we hit in the clutch or with RISP we would have clinched.
    take today for example, our pitching wasn’t bad.

    relying too much on the HR will do that to a team.

  126. NYY_Girl_Penny September 29th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    In all seriousness, if Trisha is down on the team then You know there is a HUGE problem because she is always focusing on what they do right, not wrong and NEVER gives up on them ! If she lacks excitement then You know the yanks are really stinkin! Just saying..

  127. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    mick, agree today the pitching wasn’t bad. But there were many more games when the pitching was and you would have needed a crane to dig out of the hole.

  128. Jerkface September 29th, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    Yankees are 11th in the league by adjusted ERA, which takes into account their stadium. 9th in WAR, 7th in xFIP. They have certainly got ‘decent starting pitching’, being better than half or more of the majors is good and being 5th in the AL (top third) where they play the most is good. They could have used a better offense, or a better bullpen (Mariano going down really hurt), or better starting pitching to overcome, but Cashman didn’t address anything at the trade deadline.

  129. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Balt’s magic # vs TB is 1. They have therefore clinched a tie.
    Balt must lose and TB win tmw for TB to be alive on Mon.

    Does this contradict anything I just said? If so, I am sorry…

    I might have left out that Balt could finish 1 game ahead of TB and still tie head to head and in division with a 92nd win tmw.
    TB could only finish with 91.

  130. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    Actually, if I counted right, it appears that our record post ASG is 39-34. So we’ve been playing over 500 ball – but not by much.

  131. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    trish today was a microcosm for the season.
    not enough clutch hitting, decent pitching
    no HR’s, no win…

  132. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    mick, umbrelladoc said that the Rays fate isn’t tied to the O’s, it’s tied to Oakland. Now I’m confused. Are you talking about only the first WC?

  133. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Girardi refuses to use melky mesa or dickenson an forced to use nunez when will he use cervelli I’m sick of stewart an jones an even ibanez girardi coaching sucks and I’m sick of girardi an kevin long

  134. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    I’m not feeling a whole lot pain. Just a whole lot of nothing.
    ====================================
    there are a lot here that look at the team thru a different prism.

  135. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Jerkface September 29th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
    Yankees are 11th in the league by adjusted ERA, which takes into account their stadium. 9th in WAR, 7th in xFIP. They have certainly got ‘decent starting pitching’, being better than half or more of the majors is good and being 5th in the AL (top third) where they play the most is good. They could have used a better offense

    The Yankee offense is 2nd in WAR, tied for 1st wRC+, 1st wOBA (AL). So by advanced stats their offense is much better than their pitching.

    However, the offense is not as dominant relative to the rest of the league as it has been in the past, so people think it sucks.

  136. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    I don’t agree it was a microcosm for the season. It my have been with the hitting but not with the pitching. Today’s pitching was decent. You don’t have an SP ERA that’s 15th in the majors – a little over the 50th percentile, and call it decent. That would be average on the whole. We had glimpses of terrific, and glimpses of really good, but we had mostly average. That doesn’t get you any prizes.

  137. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    mick, umbrelladoc said that the Rays fate isn’t tied to the O’s, it’s tied to Oakland. Now I’m confused. Are you talking about only the first WC?
    ================
    i was kind of conceding oak as a wc already
    this is for the 2nd one

  138. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    “there are a lot here that look at the team thru a different prism.”

    Absolutely spot on. And you’re right to counsel to look at it the way you did.

  139. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    However, people are correct when they point out that the style of the offense is largely not conducive to consistent scoring.

  140. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    That would be average on the whole. We had glimpses of terrific, and glimpses of really good, but we had mostly average. That doesn’t get you any prizes.
    ================
    thats why it is a microcosm, we are exactly what we are.

  141. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    No matter what happens tomorrow, if the Rays win, they are still alive for the 2nd WC.

  142. Bo knows September 29th, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    Eight shutout innings – That is all

  143. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    And you’re right to counsel to look at it the way you did.
    ================
    thats why i get paid the big bucks
    and who said this place has been dumbed down?

  144. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    “thats why it is a microcosm, we are exactly what we are.”

    Yep.

  145. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    It is pathetic to root for the Red Sox to help this needy team keep pace with the Baltimore Orioles – let me say that again – THE BALTIMORE ORIOLES. We need help? What is wrong with you people?

    ———–

    Oh shut up and that not only goes for you that goes for all the other lamebrains who didn’t want the Red Sox to win tonight so the Yanks could still be alone in first place.

    Yanks and Os lose today = Yanks still in first place by a game with a chance to go up two games with only three games left to play if they win and the Os lose tomorrow. That’s over.

    So you wanted the Red Sox to lose for a possible Yanks-Os tie? Please.

    Now the Yanks have to win three of or all their final four games to have the greatest chance to win the division outright as there’s no guarantee 3-1 or 4-0 wins the division as the Os might finish with the same record. The Yanks could finish 3-1 and still lose the division if the Os don’t lose the rest of this season.

    If the Yanks and Os finish with the same record, it’s a one-game playoff for the division and the loser of that has to win the wildcard game to advance, which means Sabathia and Kuroda must be used in whichever order and neither will be available for Game 1 and 5 unless he pitches on short rest for Game 5, that’s right.

    Maybe the Yanks should accept the wildcard game, that way they play Texas in the first round as I don’t know how the !@#% they’re gonna beat the Tigers in the ALDS with Verlander probably doing a helluva lot better than he did against them in last year’s ALDS.

    “It’s the friggin’ BALTIMORE ORIOLES.” Um, 1998-2011 is over, it’s 2012, the Os are 91-67 in 2012, same as the Yanks, a tie forces a one-game postseason, Yanks play the wildcard game if they finish with a worst record the final four games and risk ending their season on one loss.

    ‘Time to see what this 1992 Yankees BA and OBP offense 2012 Yankees team is made of. They better not trail after eight innings. BTW wonderful job by A-Rod swinging at the first pitch to end the game – what a hasbeen. If he had any self-dignity he’d retire after next season as he’ll no doubt suck then, too, but he’ll keep collecting his Top Three Players In MLB paychecks while privately crying about how the fans get on him for producing like 1992 Charlie Hayes (to go along with sportswriters and Michael Kay publicly crying about fans getting on A-Rod for producing like 1992 Charlie Hayes.)

  146. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    oak needs 2 wins (todays comeback was huge) to have 92 wins
    TB can only win 91

  147. fantasygame101 September 29th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    it is easier to beat other teams than to beat your manager.

  148. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    I don’t agree it was a microcosm for the season.
    =================================

    “thats why it is a microcosm, we are exactly what we are.”

    Yep.
    ====================================
    well which one is it?

  149. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    TB needs to play the O’s hard anyway, they owe us from last year. They know Scott Proctor was not our best option.

  150. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Another thing:

    If you can’t sweep the Twins or score more than two runs in two games vs. the Blue Jays, you need another team playing the team chasing you to beat that team chasing you to have a margin of error however slight.

    All you “Don’t root for the Red Sox” people either wouldn’t have said jack had the Red Sox won tonight or you’d have said “Thanks Boston” in so many words. None of you would’ve said you wanted the Red Sox to lose cuz to say that means you want the best chance of the Yanks not being able to pitch Sabathia OR Kuroda in Games 1 and 5 of the ALDS. Now, I’ve no problem whatsoever with Pettitte pitching either game or both games, but with all due respect to him, he is not the best option for the Yanks in 2012, Sabathia or Kuroda is.

  151. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Duh – I did not read your post – it was too long.

  152. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    As soon as you accepted the overall pitching as average and not decent, I accepted it as a microcosm.

  153. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    so Monday TB will still be alive as long as they win tmw.
    is that agreed on?

  154. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    average and decent are semantics, right?

  155. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    I only saw one person saying we shouldn’t root for the Sux. And for once it wasn’t I.

    ***************

    The O’s won the seasons series against the Ys. Does that come into play at any time here?

  156. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Red…I shoulda been a farmer!!!

  157. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    “average and decent are semantics, right?”

    Not to me. Andy didn’t pitch an average game in my way of thinking. He was better than that. Average pitching gets you jack. Decent pitching gets you wins.

  158. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    os and Y’s tied at 9-9 for season

  159. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    “so Monday TB will still be alive as long as they win tmw.
    is that agreed on?”

    Yes.

  160. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Duh – I did not read your post – it was too long.

    ————–

    Aw, you read it.

    The Twitter Generation: Cannot read anything more than 140 characters LOL.

    I’m watching The Natural on Ovation right now and can’t believe I don’t have it on dvd.

    A canard.

    A what?

    A prevarication.

    What’s that?

    A lie.

    LOL.

  161. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    “os and Y’s tied at 9-9 for season”

    Whoa! I thought the O’s had the edge.

    If they did have the edge and we tied for the division, would they outright win the division? This stuff is making my head spin.

  162. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    we had decent or average pitching, somewhere in the middle in era.
    dont you agree that in the early part of the season when our risp was abysmal, we could have won many more games if it were say, 20 pts higher?

  163. mick September 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    If they did have the edge and we tied for the division, would they outright win the division?
    ================
    no. just the homefield for the div winner game.

  164. mick September 29th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    we are getting like the nfl and nba in terms of playoff scenarios

  165. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Yanks – O’s are 9-9. I believe the next tiebreaker is record in division, which I think the O’s have a comfortable lead in. If that holds, the O’s would get home field for a division champion playoff game.

  166. NYYanksFan September 29th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Trisha
    This a good visual of the WC race. See if it helps you. Texas and Angels have 5 games left and everyone else 4.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standin.....d=20120929

  167. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    “dont you agree that in the early part of the season when our risp was abysmal, we could have won many more games if it were say, 20 pts higher?”

    Sure. But I also think we could have won many more games if the SP ERA was say, .80 lower. You have a lot more margin for error with your hitting if your SP is sharp. If your SP is flagging, you need murdere’s row to pick up some of those games. You go to the well too many times, not good.

    That said, RISP was beyond abysmal, period. Good pitching, bad pitching.

  168. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    The pitching has done its job considering loseing cc an petite an nova its the risp is screwing the yankees an givring me a migrane. Arod should be discuss it with his play. AROD IS Robbing the Yankee an should retire and give back money

  169. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    NYYanksFan, I still can’t figure it out. Math is about my weakest suit so even trying to put that very basic stuff together, I can’t do it. Thanks for trying though.

    :(

  170. mick September 29th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    i think randy once said it is easier to pick up your hitting than it is your pitching in terms of era vs batting avg or risp
    to say one man to carry us is unfair as there were different guys hot thru the season
    to say we didn’t and don’t hit as a team might be more apropos
    this could be blamed on relying too heavily on the HR

  171. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    “The pitching has done its job considering loseing cc an petite an nova”

    Well sure, losing them certainly didn’t help. Think of how many games ahead we might be right now if just Andy hadn’t gone down, forget the other two.

  172. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Duh – I did not read your last post. It definitely was too long. The most recent one I skimmed but it didn’t make much sense to me. I think maybe you want to believe I read that long post because you likely invested so much time into it. But I did not and I would not if you broke it up into Twitter bites as well. I read 29 pages last night of “Intimates Through Time: Edgar Cayce’s Mysteries of Reincarnation”. That was longer than your post but fascinating.

  173. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    “i think randy once said it is easier to pick up your hitting than it is your pitching in terms of era vs batting avg or risp”

    Then you know it can’t be true!

    :)

  174. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    If Girardi hadn’t had his ace intentionally walk Sean Rodriguez to face Carlos Pena with the bases loaded in the season opener and the Yanks had won just ONE game where they trailed after eight innings, they’d have been two games ahead of the Os not tied with them today.

  175. Jerkface September 29th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    If the Yankees SP was .8 ERA lower it would be, unquestionably, the best starting pitching rotation in the history of the game. That is a little high shooting, even for fantasy. Its like saying if our offense hit .330 as a team we’d be a lot better.

  176. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    I read it in place of some Cali kind bud I bought the other day from my close friend’s connection. My room wreaks like the stickiest of the icky but last night my hippie sweetpea was sleepy so I had nobody to smoke with and I don’t smoke alone. I read about reincarnation and zoned out to some Latin Jazz on SiriusXM – Real Jazz channel. I got a 1-year free membership and it’s pretty incredible. Soon I hope to have the girl, the music and the THC in one dosage. Ahhh, the medicine of life.

  177. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Duh – I did not read your last post. It definitely was too long. The most recent one I skimmed but it didn’t make much sense to me. I think maybe you want to believe I read that long post because you likely invested so much time into it. But I did not and I would not if you broke it up into Twitter bites as well. I read 29 pages last night of “Intimates Through Time: Edgar Cayce’s Mysteries of Reincarnation”. That was longer than your post but fascinating.

    ———–

    Yeah “too” long whatever. Try you’re an imbecile who can’t come up with anything better than “I didn’t read your post”.

  178. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Pothead.

  179. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    In the first half of the year Yankees were hitting a lot of homers the risp didn’t matter now they aren’t hitting that many hometuns the risp is haunting them

  180. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    mick – relying on the home run wasn’t a totally great thing because when the home runs didn’t come, there was a problem.

    If you check back at the beginning of the season, when the pitching was sucking but the offense was en fuego, I said then that if the offense was forced to go to the well too many times to bail out the pitching it would end up deficit spending.

    And it did.

    I’d love to see what our ERA was, SP and R, when we blew the 10-game lead, as opposed to our runs scored/game. Then to take a look at the league ERA and the league runs/game. I’m willing to bet you that it was the pitching differential that ended up killing us.

    AGAIN – we have been horrendous with RISP generally, though we did have a short period where we had gotten better.

  181. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Duh – I disagree with the imbecile thing. I’m in my 7th year of higher education, primed for a 12-month clinical internship and open to 3 more years for a PhD. Fairly comfortable with the brain God gave me. You are just a voice on a computer screen. You are not the judge of man.

  182. mick September 29th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Then you know it can’t be true!
    ====================
    A Ha! as alex would say…and they say we are dumb, what do they know.
    ABSOLUTELY NUTHIN’!!!!!….

  183. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Potheads smoke alone. I do not. I prefer to laugh and philosophize.

  184. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Arod

    Sep 3 – 16: .300/.351/.520

    Sep 19 – 28: .186/.255/.186

    The gap there, Sep 17+18, was a day off and then the rainout vs TOR, then he played in both games of a doubleheader Sep 19. He has sucked ever since. We need the first half of September Arod back.

  185. mick September 29th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    and so it goes, the blog lives on, with you or without you, such as life….
    g’nite all, pleasant dreams….

    (you knew this whole crapshoot would come down to Yankees-Red Sox.)

  186. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    “If the Yankees SP was .8 ERA lower it would be, unquestionably, the best starting pitching rotation in the history of the game. That is a little high shooting, even for fantasy. Its like saying if our offense hit .330 as a team we’d be a lot better.”

    Wait a minute. The differential between us and the top team was .67. That’s almost .7. So what’s one more tenth of a point? You’re telling me that no starting pitching rotation was 3.26 in the history of the game?

  187. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    Hippie sweetpea’s text message to me tonight: “You are kind, considerate, intelligent, and i like to be around you.”

    Intelligent! SEE!

    …because we sit together in Pharmacology.

  188. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    mick – night. :)

    I have a feeling all of this will feel much better in the light of day.

    I will hopefully be home for the last part of the game – if any at all. I’ll count on you to be in there rooting – for and against.

  189. mick September 29th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    Hippie sweetpea’s text message to me tonight: “You are kind, considerate, intelligent, and i like to be around you.”
    ===============
    Bret, she wants a ring…

  190. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Duh – I disagree with the imbecile thing. I’m in my 7th year of higher education, primed for a 12-month clinical internship and open to 3 more years for a PhD. Fairly comfortable with the brain God gave me. You are just a voice on a computer screen. You are not the judge of man.

    ——————-

    Congratulations on finally reading a post I wrote (more like ceasing to play dumb like you didn’t.)

    You are just as much a voice on a computer screen as I am and you’re right, I’m not “the judge of man”, I’m the judge of you, and the verdict is you’re still an imbecile.

    LOL @ you telling me a ficitious higher level of college education like it’d mean anything if you really were at it when it doesn’t.

  191. mick September 29th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    I will hopefully be home for the last part of the game – if any at all. I’ll count on you to be in there rooting – for and against.
    =====================
    i tend to meditate in front of my tv in games of this nature…

  192. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    ret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    Hippie sweetpea’s text message to me tonight: “You are kind, considerate, intelligent, and i like to be around you.”

    Intelligent! SEE!

    …because we sit together in Pharmacology.

    ————

    Try “Potology”, “Marijuanology”, or “Weedology”.

    A fictitious girlfriend to go with your fictious studies in Pharmacology.

  193. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    How many wins does the yankees have when loseing after the 8th one comeback the whole year that’s alarming no heart that starts with girardi

  194. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Well do whatever you have to do. And say a little prayer to the baseball gods that I find the gold earring that I lost on Friday. I tend to believe in omens. I’d feel much better if that were back in my possession rather than potentially in the vacuum cleaner of the people who clean the Bar Association (where I believe I may have lost it) – probably Sux fans!

  195. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Potheads smoke alone. I do not. I prefer to laugh and philosophize.

    ————

    Try “talk out of your ass”.

  196. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Mick,

    Nah. She is a free-spirit. I would wake up one morning to find a note about her disappearing to some obscure European territory, maybe surrounded by ocean, maybe not. She would promise to return in a few years but actually never come back to the U.S. She is too wild for me and she does not want a boyfriend, does not want to be tied down. She does not want children. I want to make babies and find me a wife, preferably one who speaks little and has no opinions (j/k about that last part).

  197. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Well time for SNL. Hopes it’s good.

  198. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Question 1
    5 out of 5 points

    The most serious adverse effect of the statin drugs is:
    Answer
    Selected Answer: d. rhabdomyolosis
    Question 2
    5 out of 5 points

    A cholesterol level of less than 200 is desirable.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: a. true
    Question 3
    5 out of 5 points

    This is a large molecule containing 50-65% of triglycerides. It is not considered a major player in atherosclerosis.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: a. VLDL
    Question 4
    5 out of 5 points

    Dipyradimole increases __________ levels.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 3. adenosine
    Question 5
    5 out of 5 points

    Lovenox is an example of a low molecular weight heparin.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: a. true
    Question 6
    5 out of 5 points

    Lipoproteins consist of a protein shell surrounding a lipid core.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: a. true
    Question 7
    5 out of 5 points

    The following changes in plasma concentration of warfarin were observed in a patient when two other agents, drugs B and C, were given on a daily basis at constant dosage starting at the times shown. Which of the following statements most accurately describes what is shown in the graph below?
    Answer
    Selected Answer:
    Drug B stimulates hepatic metabolism of warfarin; drug C displaces warfarin from plasma protein
    Response Feedback: A drug that increases metabolism (clearance) of the anticoagulant will lower the steady state plasma concentration (both free and bound forms), whereas one that displaces the anticoagulant will increase the plasma level of the free form only until elimination of the drug has again lowered it to the steady state level.
    Question 8
    5 out of 5 points

    The half life of Warfarin is ___________.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 2. 2 days
    Question 9
    5 out of 5 points

    Increased serum levels of which of the following may be associated with a decreased risk of atherosclerosis?
    Answer
    Selected Answer: HDL
    Response Feedback: Increased serum concentrations of most of the lipoproteins and total cholesterol is associated with increased risk of atherosclerosis. High serum concentrations of HDL cholesterol (“good cholesterol”), however, is associated with a decrease in the risk of atherosclerotic disease.
    Question 10
    5 out of 5 points

    An LDL level of 150 would be considered optimal.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: b. false
    Question 11
    5 out of 5 points

    A 58-year-old business executive is brought to the emergency room 2 hours after the onset of severe chest pain during a vigorous tennis game. She has a history of poorly controlled mild hypertension and elevated blood cholesterol but does not smoke. ECG changes confirm the diagnosis of myocardial infarction. The decision is made to attempt to open her occluded artery. Conversion of plasminogen to plasmin is brought about by
    Answer
    Selected Answer: Reteplase
    Response Feedback: Heparin and warfarin are anticoagulants that affect activation or formation of proteins in the clotting cascade. Lepirudin is an inhibitor of thrombin, and aminocaproic acid is an inhibitor, not an activator, of fibrinolysis and the conversion of plasminogen to plasmin. Reteplase is the only thrombolytic drug listed.
    Question 12
    5 out of 5 points

    Anticoagulant therapy is primarily prophylactic. This therapy acts by preventing all of the following, EXCEPT:
    Answer
    Selected Answer: c. platelet production
    Question 13
    5 out of 5 points

    This contains 60-70% of blood cholesterol, is the most harmful particle, and elevated levels of it are associated with ASCVD.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: b. LDL
    Question 14
    5 out of 5 points

    Heparin is naturally formed in all of the following EXCEPT:
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 2. kidney
    Question 15
    5 out of 5 points

    HDL cholesterol levels above 40 are considered high.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: b. false
    Question 16
    5 out of 5 points

    Which of the following binds to protein?
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 1. Unfractionated Heparin
    Question 17
    5 out of 5 points

    A 35-year-old woman appears to have familial combined hyperlipidemia. Her serum concentrations of total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol, and triglyceride are elevated. Her serum concentration of HDL cholesterol is somewhat reduced.Which of the following drugs is most likely to cause an increase in this patient’s triglyceride and VLDL cholesterol when used as monotherapy?
    Answer
    Selected Answer: Cholestyramine
    Response Feedback: In some patients with familial combined hyperlipidemia and elevated VLDL, the resins can increase VLDL and triglyceride concentrations even though they also lower LDL cholesterol.
    Question 18
    5 out of 5 points

    The half life for aspirin is 2-3 days in terms of analgesic effects, in terms of anitplatelet effects the half life is _____
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 4. 10 days
    Question 19
    5 out of 5 points

    A 65-year-old man is brought to the emergency room 30 minutes after the onset of right-sided weakness and aphasia (difficulty speaking). Imaging studies ruled out cerebral hemorrhage as the cause of his acute symptoms of stroke.
    Prompt administration of which of the following drugs is most likely to improve this patient’s clinical outcome?
    Answer
    Selected Answer: Alteplase
    Response Feedback: Controlled clinical trials have shown that alteplase improves the clinical outcome in patients with ischemic stroke if given within 3 hours after the onset of symptoms. Similar trials of streptokinase resulted in unacceptably high rates of bleeding. Glycoprotein IIb/IIIa receptor inhibitors like abciximab have not been tested in ischemic stroke. Vitamin K and factor VIII may actually worsen the patient’s outcome.
    Question 20
    5 out of 5 points

    This is a large particle that transports cholesterol and fatty acids from the gut to the liver.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: d. chylomicron

  199. nhyankeefan September 29th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Grandy man in the middle again of baserunners left on base….he has been terrible and should be traded.

  200. mick September 29th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Girardi flipped out today when he heard Nix couldn’t go at SS.
    This led to a string of bad decisions which reared their ugly heads.
    Jones leaving 5 men on in 2 AB’s, Andy pulled with one batter to get at 94 pitches, when his “limit” was 95, Joba screwing the pooch.
    Nunez being pulled for defense when he “compromised” Jeter’s rest day was a moral defeat.
    Joe has too much control…

  201. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    I said a prayer for you an Arod I’m breaking the curse Arod going have two homets tomorrow an your going tp find your earring

  202. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Hey folks, when replying to someone on here, make sure to validate yourself by posting your level of higher education and that you have a girlfriend.

  203. mick September 29th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Jagger on SNL

  204. Jerkface September 29th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Wait a minute. The differential between us and the top team was .67. That’s almost .7. So what’s one more tenth of a point? You’re telling me that no starting pitching rotation was 3.26 in the history of the game?

    You’re ignoring league, era, and park effects. Of course teams in the past have had an ERA around that number or lower, like when the mound was raised, no DH, pre-integration, before the HR was a thing, before gloves had webbs, etc. The league would have to be cratering so heavily, or the Yankees starting rotation would have to be both incredibly healthy and likely incredibly lucky or expensive to achieve a 3.25 ERA as a team for its starters.

    The Yankees do not play in Oakland or Nats park or PetCo. It is ignoring reality. We could do it in very expensive fashion if we had say… Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, CC Sabathia, Cole Hamels, and a rookie putting up an incredible ERA as well.

    The Phillies did something like that last year, when they had Lee, Halladay, hamels, oswalt, and worley. Very expensive, and not so good now, but undoubtedly one of the best rotations in the history of the game. That is what it would take.

  205. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Question 1
    5 out of 5 points

    The most serious adverse effect of the statin drugs is:
    Answer
    Selected Answer: d. rhabdomyolosis
    Question 2
    5 out of 5 points

    A cholesterol level of less than 200 is desirable.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: a. true
    Question 3
    5 out of 5 points

    This is a large molecule containing 50-65% of triglycerides. It is not considered a major player in atherosclerosis.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: a. VLDL
    Question 4
    5 out of 5 points

    Dipyradimole increases __________ levels.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 3. adenosine
    Question 5
    5 out of 5 points

    Lovenox is an example of a low molecular weight heparin.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: a. true
    Question 6
    5 out of 5 points

    Lipoproteins consist of a protein shell surrounding a lipid core.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: a. true
    Question 7
    5 out of 5 points

    The following changes in plasma concentration of warfarin were observed in a patient when two other agents, drugs B and C, were given on a daily basis at constant dosage starting at the times shown. Which of the following statements most accurately describes what is shown in the graph below?
    Answer
    Selected Answer:
    Drug B stimulates hepatic metabolism of warfarin; drug C displaces warfarin from plasma protein
    Response Feedback: A drug that increases metabolism (clearance) of the anticoagulant will lower the steady state plasma concentration (both free and bound forms), whereas one that displaces the anticoagulant will increase the plasma level of the free form only until elimination of the drug has again lowered it to the steady state level.
    Question 8
    5 out of 5 points

    The half life of Warfarin is ___________.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 2. 2 days
    Question 9
    5 out of 5 points

    Increased serum levels of which of the following may be associated with a decreased risk of atherosclerosis?
    Answer
    Selected Answer: HDL
    Response Feedback: Increased serum concentrations of most of the lipoproteins and total cholesterol is associated with increased risk of atherosclerosis. High serum concentrations of HDL cholesterol (“good cholesterol”), however, is associated with a decrease in the risk of atherosclerotic disease.
    Question 10
    5 out of 5 points

    An LDL level of 150 would be considered optimal.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: b. false
    Question 11
    5 out of 5 points

    A 58-year-old business executive is brought to the emergency room 2 hours after the onset of severe chest pain during a vigorous tennis game. She has a history of poorly controlled mild hypertension and elevated blood cholesterol but does not smoke. ECG changes confirm the diagnosis of myocardial infarction. The decision is made to attempt to open her occluded artery. Conversion of plasminogen to plasmin is brought about by
    Answer
    Selected Answer: Reteplase
    Response Feedback: Heparin and warfarin are anticoagulants that affect activation or formation of proteins in the clotting cascade. Lepirudin is an inhibitor of thrombin, and aminocaproic acid is an inhibitor, not an activator, of fibrinolysis and the conversion of plasminogen to plasmin. Reteplase is the only thrombolytic drug listed.
    Question 12
    5 out of 5 points

    Anticoagulant therapy is primarily prophylactic. This therapy acts by preventing all of the following, EXCEPT:
    Answer
    Selected Answer: c. platelet production
    Question 13
    5 out of 5 points

    This contains 60-70% of blood cholesterol, is the most harmful particle, and elevated levels of it are associated with ASCVD.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: b. LDL
    Question 14
    5 out of 5 points

    Heparin is naturally formed in all of the following EXCEPT:
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 2. kidney
    Question 15
    5 out of 5 points

    HDL cholesterol levels above 40 are considered high.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: b. false
    Question 16
    5 out of 5 points

    Which of the following binds to protein?
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 1. Unfractionated Heparin
    Question 17
    5 out of 5 points

    A 35-year-old woman appears to have familial combined hyperlipidemia. Her serum concentrations of total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol, and triglyceride are elevated. Her serum concentration of HDL cholesterol is somewhat reduced.Which of the following drugs is most likely to cause an increase in this patient’s triglyceride and VLDL cholesterol when used as monotherapy?
    Answer
    Selected Answer: Cholestyramine
    Response Feedback: In some patients with familial combined hyperlipidemia and elevated VLDL, the resins can increase VLDL and triglyceride concentrations even though they also lower LDL cholesterol.
    Question 18
    5 out of 5 points

    The half life for aspirin is 2-3 days in terms of analgesic effects, in terms of anitplatelet effects the half life is _____
    Answer
    Selected Answer: 4. 10 days
    Question 19
    5 out of 5 points

    A 65-year-old man is brought to the emergency room 30 minutes after the onset of right-sided weakness and aphasia (difficulty speaking). Imaging studies ruled out cerebral hemorrhage as the cause of his acute symptoms of stroke.
    Prompt administration of which of the following drugs is most likely to improve this patient’s clinical outcome?
    Answer
    Selected Answer: Alteplase
    Response Feedback: Controlled clinical trials have shown that alteplase improves the clinical outcome in patients with ischemic stroke if given within 3 hours after the onset of symptoms. Similar trials of streptokinase resulted in unacceptably high rates of bleeding. Glycoprotein IIb/IIIa receptor inhibitors like abciximab have not been tested in ischemic stroke. Vitamin K and factor VIII may actually worsen the patient’s outcome.
    Question 20
    5 out of 5 points

    This is a large particle that transports cholesterol and fatty acids from the gut to the liver.
    Answer
    Selected Answer: d. chylomicron

    —————————————————-

    ????????

    ‘Love how you feel you have to validate yourself to me.

    Get lost.

  206. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Medical, law, or any degrees don’t mean you know anything about baseball. It doesn’t mean you do not either, but it doesn’t mean you do.

  207. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    Andymelillo – thank you!!!! That, to me, will be the best omen of all. If I find that earring, you won’t be able to get me to predict anything but a WS win!

    :D

  208. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Jacksquat,

    You missed the part where Duh called me imbecile. Doesn’t anybody read his posts? SHEESH.

    Higher education is one indicator that one is not an imbecile. It is not proof (as I have met several PhD’s who are thick headed) but it’s a strong indicator. Books smarts, street smarts, intuition, emotional intelligence – all factors. It’s tough for an imbecile to plow through 7 years of higher education. Probably impossible if we’re talking about an imbecile in the true sense of the word.

  209. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Medical, law, or any degrees don’t mean you know anything about baseball. It doesn’t mean you do not either, but it doesn’t mean you do.

    ————-

    Thank you.

  210. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Duh you called me imbecile and followed up that false accusation with another when you said my studies in Pharmacology are “fictitious” They are not. They are real. My education is real.

    This is all just about me skipping your lengthy post isn’t it? What’s the big deal? People here skip posts all the time.

  211. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    If you find that earring send it girardi send as a good luck charm yankees need all the help they can get

  212. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Heck I would have settled for .5 lower. And forget about the relief ERA.

    Well it is what it is. Maybe it would have been different had we not lost Mo, DRob, Andy, CC, and Nova (some shorter periods, some long periods.) That naturally put more pressure on the rest of the crew.

    It is what it is. Now we hope for the best.

    I’m going to take a ride and look on the street near my Bar Association to see if I can see my earring anywhere. It’s worth a shot.

    Night all.

  213. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    “If you find that earring send it girardi send as a good luck charm yankees need all the help they can get”

    :lol:

    I’ll do it but ask him to make sure I get it back once we win the world series! (no negative comments necessary!)

  214. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Jacksquat,

    You missed the part where Duh called me imbecile. Doesn’t anybody read his posts? SHEESH.

    Higher education is one indicator that one is not an imbecile. It is not proof (as I have met several PhD’s who are thick headed) but it’s a strong indicator. Books smarts, street smarts, intuition, emotional intelligence – all factors. It’s tough for an imbecile to plow through 7 years of higher education. Probably impossible if we’re talking about an imbecile in the true sense of the word.

    —————

    Buy a dictionary.

    From the official Merriam-Webster Dictionary website (you qualify for definition 2) :

    ” im·be·cile
    noun \?im-b?-s?l, -?sil\
    Definition of IMBECILE
    1
    usually offensive : a person affected with moderate mental retardation
    2
    : fool, idiot “

  215. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    Brett the hitman doe it matter what anyone calls you.You have nothing to prove to anyone acting and playing children games

  216. Pepitone September 29th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    The Yankees will not make the playoffs, and it is not the fault of Joe Girardi.
    f
    Here is what is wrong with this team:
    1. Trading their good young players for washed up, or nearly washed up old veterans; hello, Arod and Jones and Ibanez and Suzuki and Granderson and Texiera.
    2. Not enough starting pitching.
    3. No Paul O’Neills, or Johnny Damons, or Hideki Matsusis, or Bernie Williams, or Jorge Posadas who know how to hit with runners in scoring position.
    4. Not enough starting pitching.
    5. A fan base that has no patience with one or two years of mediocrity while building from within with home grown players.

    Well, that’s about it. Any questions? Buehller?

  217. Duh Innings II September 29th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Duh you called me imbecile and followed up that false accusation with another when you said my studies in Pharmacology are “fictitious” They are not. They are real. My education is real.>>

    Yeah ok sure.

    You have an inferiority complex.

  218. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    Duh you would like to think that I qualify for an imbecile but it’s just not true. You have overreached here.

  219. jacksquat September 29th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
    Jacksquat,

    You missed the part where Duh called me imbecile. Doesn’t anybody read his posts? SHEESH.

    Higher education is one indicator that one is not an imbecile. It is not proof (as I have met several PhD’s who are thick headed) but it’s a strong indicator. Books smarts, street smarts, intuition, emotional intelligence – all factors. It’s tough for an imbecile to plow through 7 years of higher education. Probably impossible if we’re talking about an imbecile in the true sense of the word.

    Yeah, I usually don’t read much of his posts, because they are too long and usually just rants.

    But yes, it means you are very likely not an “imbecile”.

  220. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    Well Girardi goes to church of the glades in coral springs fla.send your earring their.

  221. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    1. Not an imbecile
    2. Not a pothead
    3. Not engaged in fictitious studies of any kind (especially not Pharmacology)
    4. Do not have an inferiority complex (confident, proud, satisfied, will challenge falsehoods with facts)

  222. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    So Duh, let me get this straight because I hope to be smart someday…

    …it is a goal of mine.

    In order to not be an imbecile, all one has to do is read every word in every single one of your posts on LOHUD Yankees blog?

    Does training system come in a CD-rom package? Can I order your IQ booster kit online?

    Thanks in advance.

  223. Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Pepitone is preaching the truth should have kept Austin jaclson montero ian kennedy Alphoso Soriano

  224. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Austin Jackson is the only one of the group I regret losing.

  225. Madrugador September 30th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    You all have way too much time on your hands. I am turning in so I get try and forget about today’s game. Who knows maybe the Yanks and Red Sox will win tomorrow. Hope may not be a good plan but at the moment it’s all I’ve got.

  226. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    The yankee fans have no patience I’m mad at girardi for plying stewart not cervelli not dh nunez not giveing dickenson an mesa a chance an coaching scarred

  227. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Pepitone September 29th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    The Yankees will not make the playoffs, and it is not the fault of Joe Girardi.>>

    Yes it is, he had his ace walk a nobody intentionally to face Carlos Pena with the bases loaded and cost the Yankees the season opener (and a one-game lead on the Os despite a loss today) with that idiotic managerial move.

    <>

    The Yanks traded Alfonso Soriano for prime A-Rod, Jones was signed then re-signed, Ibanez and Teixiera were signed, and Suzuki was acquired by trading middling prospects.

    Granderson had a decent 2010 where he came on strong in the second half, an ALMVP candidate 2011, and is having a good 2012.

    <>

    Huh? Sabathia, Kuroda, Hughes, and Pettitte have been at least #3 starter good. Nova was #3 good in parts. Garcia did a decent job holding down Pettitte’s slot. Phelps gave the Yanks some good starts. The only bum of the rotation has been Nova.

    <>

    One thing I agree with you on.

    <>

    Huh? Sabathia, Kuroda, Hughes, and Pettitte have been at least #3 starter good. Nova was #3 good in parts. Garcia did a decent job holding down Pettitte’s slot. Phelps gave the Yanks some good starts.

    <>

    On the contrary, I am all for re-signing homegrown Melky Cabrera for RF, swapping hasbeen A-Rod for homegrown Alfonso Soriano for DH, trading Granderson for prospects, moving Gardner to CF, and starting Nunez in LF for a 2/3rds homegrown 2013 Yankees starting nine.

    <>

    My sister’s mom’s cousin’s aunt’s niece says you don’t know wtf you’re talking about hahaha.

  228. Pepitone September 30th, 2012 at 12:03 am

    Pepitone is preaching the truth should have kept Austin jaclson montero ian kennedy Alphoso Soriano
    ================

    Alphonso Soriano? Eh … No! That was a good move.

  229. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    Didn’t the yankees trade karson an Ted Lilly

  230. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:07 am

    Wasn’t alphonso traded for Arod to texas what’s wrong wth alphonso power an speed without steroids defence was shadey

  231. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Pepitone September 29th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    The Yankees will not make the playoffs, and it is not the fault of Joe Girardi.
    f
    Here is what is wrong with this team:
    1. Trading their good young players for washed up, or nearly washed up old veterans; hello, Arod and Jones and Ibanez and Suzuki and Granderson and Texiera.
    2. Not enough starting pitching.
    3. No Paul O’Neills, or Johnny Damons, or Hideki Matsusis, or Bernie Williams, or Jorge Posadas who know how to hit with runners in scoring position.
    4. Not enough starting pitching.
    5. A fan base that has no patience with one or two years of mediocrity while building from within with home grown players.

    Well, that’s about it. Any questions? Buehller?

    —————————————————————–

    It is Girardi’s fault. He had his ace walk a nobody intentionally to face Carlos Pena with the bases loaded and cost the Yankees the season opener (and a one-game lead on the Os despite a loss today) with that idiotic managerial move.

    The Yanks traded Alfonso Soriano for prime A-Rod, Jones was signed then re-signed, Ibanez and Teixiera were signed, and Suzuki was acquired by trading middling prospects.

    Granderson had a decent 2010 where he came on strong in the second half, an ALMVP candidate 2011, and is having a good 2012. Hindsight is 20/20 re: Austin Jackson and you have to give up something to get something which Granderson most certainly was.

    Sabathia, Kuroda, Hughes, and Pettitte have been at least #3 starter good. Nova was #3 good in parts. Garcia did a decent job holding down Pettitte’s slot. Phelps gave the Yanks some good starts. The only bum of the rotation has been Nova.

    I agree with you on the RISP.

    I am all for re-signing homegrown Melky Cabrera for RF, swapping hasbeen A-Rod for homegrown Alfonso Soriano for DH, trading Granderson for prospects, moving Gardner to CF, and starting Nunez in LF for a 2/3rds homegrown 2013 Yankees starting nine.

    Again, my sister’s mom’s cousin’s aunt’s niece says you don’t know wtf you’re talking about hahaha.

  232. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 12:10 am

    Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    So Duh, let me get this straight because I hope to be smart someday…

    …it is a goal of mine.

    In order to not be an imbecile, all one has to do is read every word in every single one of your posts on LOHUD Yankees blog?

    Does training system come in a CD-rom package? Can I order your IQ booster kit online?

    Thanks in advance.

    ———————————

    Hahahaha I got to you thanks!

  233. Pepitone September 30th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    And Ferris, one more thing:

    The Giants will beat the Eagles tomorrow, now get back to school!

  234. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:17 am

    They traded steroid free 39 hr 40 hr alphonso for Arod that lied an decieved us by doing steroids I Rather have Alphonso

  235. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    Talking about trading Arod or Texeira is a waste of space.

  236. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 12:19 am

    Hahahaha no you didn’t get to me thanks!

  237. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    Andymelillo September 29th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Pepitone is preaching the truth should have kept Austin jaclson montero ian kennedy Alphoso Soriano

    ———————-

    They should’ve not traded Alfonso Soriano for prime A-Rod? Are you nuts?

    Enough with Ian Kennedy. The 2009 Yankees rotation was set with Sabathia/Wang/Burnett/Pettitte/Chamberlain and the Yanks won the World Series that year without him. Kennedy was 8.17 awful for the Yanks in 2008 and the guy pitched exactly ONE inning for the 2009 Yanks, so stop.

    Montero could be traded if he can’t hack it at 1B where the Ms are considering moving him to since there’s no room for him at C and the Ms don’t want him to be a DH / kid who just hits.

    2010 Granderson > 2010 Jackson (Yanks went to the ALCS with Granderson who came on strong in the second half)

    2011 Granderson > 2011 Jackson despite the Tigers beating the Yanks in the ALDS.

    2012 Jackson = Granderson (Jackson has posted great BA and OBP, Granderson has posted great HR and RBI, each player is a threat in his own way, Granderson most likely scares pitchers more cuz of his power.)

    ??? 2013

    The Montero trade was the only bad one as the Yanks got zero from Pineda this year.

  238. Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 12:29 am

    How does ‘scaring pitchers’ show up in Granderson’s on field performance? Given that Austin Jackson gets on base 60 points higher than Granderson, I would say it doesn’t.

  239. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 12:30 am

    Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:17 am

    They traded steroid free 39 hr 40 hr alphonso for Arod that lied an decieved us by doing steroids I Rather have Alphonso

    jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    Talking about trading Arod or Texeira is a waste of space.

    Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 12:19 am

    Hahahaha no you didn’t get to me thanks!

    ——————————————————–

    Andymelillo – A-Rod took steroids 2001-2003 before he joined the Yanks – nice try though. Soriano lied about his age when he was a Yankee, so it would not be unreasonable to think he cheated, too (I’m not saying he did but it’s possible considering lying about your age is a pretty big lie in baseball when age is one big thing a contract is decided on.)

    jacksquat – If the Red Sox can trade Crawford, the Yanks could certainly trade Teixiera. A-Rod is tradeable, it just requires them to eat a considerable portion of his contract I’d consider a buyout.

    Bret The Hitman – I got to you because you’re mimicking me now.

  240. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:33 am

    In that mega trade when they lost20yr old jackson to detroit 21 yr old ian kennedy to arizona an melky for vazqez an that year melky had 8 game winning hits an the yankees lost two relivers I think the Yankees got screwed

  241. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 12:29 am

    How does ‘scaring pitchers’ show up in Granderson’s on field performance? Given that Austin Jackson gets on base 60 points higher than Granderson, I would say it doesn’t.

    ——————

    Bottom line is AL pitchers fear Granderson more than Jackson, don’t even argue.

    A 40 HR guy is wayyy more dangerous in a wildcard game, division winner playoff game, or ALDS game 5 than a 16 HR guy unless that 16 HR guy is Derek Jeter the only dude with little to moderate power who scares anyone.

    Tell you what – email Chad and ask him to email all 30 MLB team GMs to ask them who they fear more in a postseason game, Granderson or Jackson, and I guarantee you Granderson will win by a landslide.

  242. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:45 am

    Hiting a one run homer doesn’t scare anyone cause granderson can’t hit in scoreing position I rather have Austin Jackson leading ask the Yankees what jackson speed did to the yankees plyoff last year

  243. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    Teixeira has a full NTC and has said he is going nowhere. I believe him.

    Arod also has a full NTC and likely doesn’t want to go anywhere, plus you’d have to pay a huge chunk of his contract so it’s kind of pointless.

  244. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:33 am

    In that mega trade when they lost20yr old jackson to detroit 21 yr old ian kennedy to arizona an melky for vazqez an that year melky had 8 game winning hits an the yankees lost two relivers I think the Yankees got screwed

    ————————————————————–

    Wait a minute…you’re running your mouth about how A-Rod is a cheater but you’re lamenting the loss of not only a cheater but one who is currently serving a 50-game suspension for being one (Melky Cabrera)? Hypocrite. BTW Melky was an undisciplined boob as a Yankee who the Yanks thought was bringing down his pal Cano by being one.

    Granderson helped the Yanks get to Game 6 of the 2010 ALCS, had a stellar 2011, and is having an uneven but still solid 2012 (40 HR and 98 RBI team highs, 24 more HR and 33 more RBI than Jackson.)

    Kennedy would’ve never done what he’s done for the D-backs in the AL the league with the DH and a much tougher bottom of the order moreover wouldn’t have done what he’s done with the D-backs in a division with the Red Sox, Rays, and now we have to ay Os (I believe the Red Sox have hit just a bad patch and will rebound with the right signings with all the money they cleared trading Gonzalez, Crawford, and Beckett as they have a good core rotation in Lester, Bucholz, and Doubront.)

    You are a classic second-guesser with trades.

  245. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    When the yankees had melky he was fat an out of shape clutch hitter.an not makeing 30 millions

  246. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 12:56 am

    Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:45 am

    Hiting a one run homer doesn’t scare anyone cause granderson can’t hit in scoreing position I rather have Austin Jackson leading ask the Yankees what jackson speed did to the yankees plyoff last year

    ——————————

    Since you wanna talk about speed, ok:

    2012 Granderson 9 SB 3 CS

    2012 Jackson 11 SB 9 CS

    Jackson has more stolen bases than Granderson, but only two more than Granderson who is a better basestealer by success rate (75% vs. Jackson’s pathetic 55%.)

    Hitting a solo shot definitely scares someone when that solo homerun snaps a tie in the bottom of the eighth inning of an elimination game and that someone has to score a run in the ninth to keep their season alive.

  247. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:59 am

    I like our homegrowns I’m sick of the yankees not haveing patience.I would be happy jackson at center gardner at left melky at right I’m sick og the over price crap they trade our youth for when did it ever payoff an don’t say Arod

  248. Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 1:00 am

    Bottom line is AL pitchers fear Granderson more than Jackson, don’t even argue.

    A 40 HR guy is wayyy more dangerous in a wildcard game, division winner playoff game, or ALDS game 5 than a 16 HR guy unless that 16 HR guy is Derek Jeter the only dude with little to moderate power who scares anyone.

    Tell you what – email Chad and ask him to email all 30 MLB team GMs to ask them who they fear more in a postseason game, Granderson or Jackson, and I guarantee you Granderson will win by a landslide.

    This is all gobbledyguck. What does it matter if a GM is scared of Granderson if it does not show up in his on field performance? Given that pitchers get Curtis Granderson out at a far better rate than they get out Austin Jackson, I think they probably worry more if Ajax comes to the plate this season. If they were scared, it would show up in some tangible way. And if you want to argue that the FEAR is intangible, then you’re just blowing smoke because it doesn’t matter if being scared of Granderson doesn’t result in any kind of positive bonus.

    Granderson hits lots of HRs, but Austin Jackson gives the pitcher a negative result more often than Granderson does.

  249. Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 1:01 am

    Pitchers are so scared of Granderson that they are getting him out more often than a league average player.

  250. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 1:06 am

    Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    When the yankees had melky he was fat an out of shape clutch hitter.an not makeing 30 millions

    ——————–

    Yeah, Melky was fat and out of shape, hence why the Yanks traded him. They also traded him because he was a lazy and rubbed off on Cano the wrong way, too, since you bemoaned the Yanks trading him.

    The Yanks also traded Cabrera cuz Gardner had a good enough 2009 to get a starting job in 2010 he did excellently in to the tune of .277 BA and .383 OBP to Melky’s crap slashline for 2010 which landed him with lowly-assed KC. Also there was this thing called Gardner / Granderson / Swisher OF in 2010, all three better than Melky who was so bad he wasn’t even kept as the #4 OF.

  251. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 1:09 am

    I’m saying in whole what they gave up they got screwed austin jackson was 20 an melky ian kennedy just like I think the yankees got screwed in the noesi an montero trade giveing up home more homegrown away

  252. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 1:14 am

    What did they get for melky vazsquez who got screwed on that deal

  253. Brappy55 September 30th, 2012 at 1:35 am

    This team sucks. Look at us. Blowing a 10 game lead.

  254. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 1:39 am

    Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 1:00 am

    Bottom line is AL pitchers fear Granderson more than Jackson, don’t even argue.

    A 40 HR guy is wayyy more dangerous in a wildcard game, division winner playoff game, or ALDS game 5 than a 16 HR guy unless that 16 HR guy is Derek Jeter the only dude with little to moderate power who scares anyone.

    Tell you what – email Chad and ask him to email all 30 MLB team GMs to ask them who they fear more in a postseason game, Granderson or Jackson, and I guarantee you Granderson will win by a landslide.

    This is all gobbledyguck. What does it matter if a GM is scared of Granderson if it does not show up in his on field performance? Given that pitchers get Curtis Granderson out at a far better rate than they get out Austin Jackson, I think they probably worry more if Ajax comes to the plate this season. If they were scared, it would show up in some tangible way. And if you want to argue that the FEAR is intangible, then you’re just blowing smoke because it doesn’t matter if being scared of Granderson doesn’t result in any kind of positive bonus.

    Granderson hits lots of HRs, but Austin Jackson gives the pitcher a negative result more often than Granderson does.

    —————

    Gobbledyguck? Nah, try baseball like all sports is about human beings more than stats.

    As much as I bemoan the 2012 Yanks ’92 Yanks BA and ’92 Yanks – like OBP, I say the main reason why the 2012 Yanks have been miserable with RISP and when trailing after eight innings is they choke – what else?

    Yes, Jackson hits for higher BA and posts for higher OBP than Granderson – so what?

    ‘Nice that Austin Jackson has a better chance at getting on base with two outs in the top of the ninth of Game 7 of the 2012 World Series with the Tigers down 1-0 to Tim Lincecum than Granderson, but you can’t tell me he is more of a threat to tie the game than Granderson, you just can’t. Grandy’s 40 HR to A-Jack’s 16. If you want to compare just the two.

    If you wanna talk stats alone, Granderson hits homeruns with more frequency than Jackson, therefore Granderson is more likely to tie the game and keep his team alive (or win it if there’s a man on base) in that game. Again, if you want to compare him to A-Jack.

  255. Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 1:47 am

    But that frequency of hitting a HR is directly tied to his frequency of actually getting a hit, which is quite low. Austin Jackson is more likely to get a hit, more likely to not make an out (in any situation). And you’re really just moving the goal posts here. First it was pitchers are more scared, and then GMs would be more scared, and now it is a very specific scenario.

    Stats alone Austin Jackson is a much better hitter than Granderson is this year. He succeeds more often at the goal of any hitter. Granderson may do more damage when he does get a hit, but Austin Jackson is no slouch either with a lot of doubles, 10 triples, and 16 HRs.

    Given that Granderson gets out so much, it may not be more likely that he ties a ballgame in the ninth. It may be more likely that he simply gets out.

  256. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 1:50 am

    Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 1:01 am

    Pitchers are so scared of Granderson that they are getting him out more often than a league average player.

    ————————————-

    They’re scared of him – 40 HR in 2012.

    You seem to think the season ends after 162 games, it does not. It most likely will not for the 2012 Yanks.

    ‘Say the Yanks lose the division and draw the As in the wildcard game. No way the As aren’t pissing in their pants if they see Granderson walk to the plate with two men on cuz he is a 40 HR threat.

    Sure, whoever he’s facing may say to himself “Ah, this guy is a .230 batting strikeout machine” but deep down he’s thinking “…with 40 HR this season and the most HR of any MLB player the past two seasons” and scared.

    I don’t see most pitchers looking at Granderson’s 2012 BA, you do fine.

  257. Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 1:57 am

    But what tangible value does this provide? He crushed everyone last year and this year guys are getting him out. Are they scared while getting him out?

    You could tell people were scared of Barry Bonds because they walked him like crazy and he led the world in on base percentage. Granderson gets out more than a regular average joe. What does this FEAR you speak of do?

    He only has 12 HRs with men on base! Why would they be pissing themselves?

  258. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 2:08 am

    Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 1:47 am

    But that frequency of hitting a HR is directly tied to his frequency of actually getting a hit, which is quite low. Austin Jackson is more likely to get a hit, more likely to not make an out (in any situation). And you’re really just moving the goal posts here. First it was pitchers are more scared, and then GMs would be more scared, and now it is a very specific scenario.

    Stats alone Austin Jackson is a much better hitter than Granderson is this year. He succeeds more often at the goal of any hitter. Granderson may do more damage when he does get a hit, but Austin Jackson is no slouch either with a lot of doubles, 10 triples, and 16 HRs.

    Given that Granderson gets out so much, it may not be more likely that he ties a ballgame in the ninth. It may be more likely that he simply gets out.

    ——————

    HR frequency is based on PA not BA or OBP.

    Hitter A has 50 HR in 400 PA (HR/8 PA.)

    Hitter B has 20 HR in 400 PA (HR/20 PA.)

    ‘Doesn’t matter that Hitter A bats 50 for 400 with 350 SO and no BB and Hitter B bats 1.000, he’s still a bigger HR threat than Hitter B cuz he hits a HR more often than B.

    Yeah, B is guaranteed to get a hit, but there’s no guarantee he’ll score on anything but a homerun including a leadoff triple for he must rely on someone after him to drive in a run.

    The ugly of Granderson is he strikes out a ton, doesn’t hit for average, and doesn’t get on base. The beauty of Granderson is he could change the entire landscape of a game with one swing. You can’t honestly say that about Jackson as fine a young hitter as he is. Sure Jackson can beat you in more ways and more often than Granderson but he has only one at-bat to do so and still can’t keep his team alive or win it with one swing as much as Granderson can on pure HR/PA.

  259. theREALkevin September 30th, 2012 at 2:13 am

    Wow wtf at bizarre pissing contest. Can I join in?? Nah maybe next time :)

  260. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 2:15 am

    Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 1:57 am

    But what tangible value does this provide? He crushed everyone last year and this year guys are getting him out. Are they scared while getting him out?

    You could tell people were scared of Barry Bonds because they walked him like crazy and he led the world in on base percentage. Granderson gets out more than a regular average joe. What does this FEAR you speak of do?

    He only has 12 HRs with men on base! Why would they be pissing themselves?

    ———————————————————

    He has 40 HR, one game do or die, he’s up, you’re pissing yourself. Common sense.

  261. Nick in SF September 30th, 2012 at 2:16 am

    I got my first status update from Chad; only 3 GM’s have responded so far, but it is the weekend.

  262. Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 2:28 am

    ‘Doesn’t matter that Hitter A bats 50 for 400 with 350 SO and no BB and Hitter B bats 1.000, he’s still a bigger HR threat than Hitter B cuz he hits a HR more often than B.

    Yeah, B is guaranteed to get a hit, but there’s no guarantee he’ll score on anything but a homerun including a leadoff triple for he must rely on someone after him to drive in a run.

    I’m sorry but this is ridiculous. If one hitter bats 1.000 everyone will be much more scared of him coming to the plate than your curtis granderson analog.

  263. Jerkface September 30th, 2012 at 2:29 am

    He has 40 HR, one game do or die, he’s up, you’re pissing yourself. Common sense.

    It clearly isn’t common sense, because major league pitchers have not gotten the memo. If curtis granderson comes to the plate in the playoffs or elimination game with a chance to tie the game, the pitcher won’t be intentionally walking him.

  264. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Good Morning.

    Got to win out and hope that Tampa takes care of the O’s.

    The O has chronic problems which need to be addressed in the OS.

    We need more Ichiro’s and less Andruw’s.

    We need youth playing along side our veterans.

    Can’t feel confident when the Pitching is constantly expected to pick up an anemic O.

    I hope significant change comes to Yankeeland in the OS although I
    am not confident that will happen.

  265. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    And I might also add that this 189 thing is a straightjacket worthy of Houdini.

    ;)

  266. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am

    Got to wonder why guys like Chapman and Cespedes were passed on ?

  267. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Too much deadwood on this Yankee roster.

    Chop it out in the OS.

    Make room for planting and new growth.

    :)

  268. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    I wasn’t compareing austin jackson to granderson detroit is much bigger to yankee stadium austin if played in yankee stadium would have 30 hr the stadiums make a differents ask ichiro His average Is 330 since. Omeing over from the. Ig park in Seattle you can’t compare jesus montero over martin jesus plays in much bigger park I THink the yankees Got Screwed on both dealls

  269. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Oh. So you won’t talk, eh ?

    Guess I’ll have to beat it out of ya’ then.

    :)

  270. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    One brave soul shows up.

    Finally.

    :)

  271. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    The Yankees always have and always will worship at the altar of power.

    One recent exception being the 98 team possibly the 09 team.

    They could hurt you in a number of different ways.

    I like the multi-dimensional attack.

    Want to see more of it in the future.

    ;)

  272. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    You all should try Insominia.

    It’s good for staying awake.

    :)

  273. yankee21 September 30th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    MTU

    NY offense presses because Joe G and Cashman endorses the HR or nothing attack by their words and their actions. The offense also presses because of the manager. Notice how nervous Joe G gets when things get out of hand? Blowing a 10 game lead can’t feel very good on the stomach especially when you know you are a big reason for it.

  274. NYY fan in NH September 30th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Waking up tied with the Orioles with 4 games left leaves a sick feeling in my stomach. Especially knowing the weak schedule and missed opportunities. Now the Sox are gonna go all out to stop the Yanks from winning the division.

  275. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    21-

    It wouldn’t bother me if Girardi were gone.

    But the real source of the problem IMO is Hal and his new “philosophy”.

    He’s put the Yankees in a financial straightjacket with 189.

    Or maybe we should just blame it on Selig.

    ;)

  276. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    I agree balance attack this yankee team is lopsided hr or bust If Toronto could run base path they easily could hav one the first three games they run the bases worst than my blind grandmother

  277. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    The Yankees just wanted to create some extra excitment so they let the O’s tie it up.

    P.S. If you believe that one I’ve got some swampland to sell you

    :)

  278. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Good morning.

    How do you describe this team?

    a. Inconsitent
    b. Incontinent
    c. Incorrigible
    d. Incompetent
    e. All of the above

  279. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    OK gang.

    Time to walk the Mops.

    I’ll catch you later.

    Play nice.

    ;)

  280. MTU September 30th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    YT-

    You’re late to the party.

    How about “iron deficient” needing Geritol.

    later.

    ;)

  281. Bo knows September 30th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Are we there, yet?

  282. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Bud told joe let sorry ass orioles catch up keep playing jones an ibanez. If the yankees don’t win the division no chance in hell do they beat sorry ass athletics in a one game playoff Hopefully that’s the end of joe an long

  283. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    MTU-

    How do you make the team more athletic, younger and faster?

    What tradeable young, affordable, major league ready and proven assets would another teams GM be willing to take a chance on after scouting them this season?

    Nova-Don’t think so
    Nunez-If you want a DH
    Hughes-not affordable after next season
    Gardner-not proven to be 100%

    Aah there is one-Phelps-but as the centerpiece of a trade to get a coveted young stud OF’er? Don’t think so

    Any others that fit the criteria of young, affordable, and major league ready and proven?

  284. MG September 30th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    Given the importance, the opponent, and the way Romero was pitching yesterday’s loss, in retrospect, is one of the worst ones I’ve ever seen as a Yankees fan since the mid-50′s.

    Girardi is so full of bs it is beyond belief. He has absolutely no leadership qualities, if it wasn’t for the veteran leadership in the clubhouse this team would have fallen apart long ago.

    We now know why Rodriguez opted out in 2007-he knew he was in the Mitchell report and knew that unless he signed a new contract before it came out he was toast. Unfortunately for the Yankees the idiot son was in charge for 5 minutes and competed against himself, anyone with a brain would have told him to take a hike.

    Both Girardi and Long need to go, you can’t keep going out day after day after day with players not performing anything close to their capabilities and continue to spew out the same drivel.

    And Arod, don’t say how getting walks means you are having good ABs, it just means the pitcher can’t throw strikes because if he did you would either take them or swing and miss by a foot.

    I haven’t given up on the season, they could turn this around, but it’s seeming less and less likely.

  285. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    How about inpoten the yankees need some viagra there not homering latety

  286. austinmac September 30th, 2012 at 9:07 am

    The Yankees passed on all the possible off season additions due to money. They no longer spend as needed. The number one goal is to reduce payroll. The number two goal is to be competitive with the reduced payroll.

    This isn’t complicated. We fans simply don’t want to accept that this organization has different priorities than we are used to.

  287. Bo knows September 30th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    One word sums it up – Gotterdammerung (Twilight of the Gods)

  288. austinmac September 30th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    AROD has five more years and is owed $114 million without performance bonuses. Frankly, I never understood why they didn’t try to get out of the contract by saying AROD misrepresented his clean status to them. Performance bonuses would be given for achievements that have lost their economic value to the team.

    His best at bats are now singles. If the balls are elevated, they get caught short of the warning track. Does anyone in the world think he will become a top flight player anymore? Yea, Jeter turned it around, but he wasn’t turning around a career built to a greater or lesser extent by steroids.

  289. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    MG-

    I don’t have access to the post game interviews with Girardi, but after reading all of the above in Chad’s post It is such bs and the players add the same old hackneyed cliches.

    And I too have been following the Yankees a long time and really can’t stand to watch them.

    They’ll get into the playoffs. Maybe they’ll go in as the WC, fly off to Oakland for the one game playoff, lose the game and get to read in the NY Tabloids the next morning “Moneyball beats Money.”

  290. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Bring back Ichiro for RF, sign BJ Upton for LF, keep Gardner as your 4th OF. If you can trade Granderson for a fair return then do it and move Gardner to CF. If you could use Granderson to get Headley indirectly through a 3 team deal that would be awesome. Maybe the Nats would be a good team since they have two third baseman already and would not want Headley.

  291. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    If the yankees were in last place an nothing to play for but to ruin red sox season would you want the yankees lose all three games to orioles an then try to sweep the red sox that’s all red sox fans want

  292. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    Maybe Francona should tell the Indians, if he’s offered the job, that he’ll need a week or so to decide? :)

  293. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    I’d love to have Buck Showalter managing the Yankees again. The guy is a baseball encyclopedia.

  294. MG September 30th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    The funny thing about the Yankees right now is that the guy who is probably getting the best ABs with RISP (outside of Ichiro and Cano, who are raking in almost every AB) is Swisher, who has taken tons of crap from Yankees fans.

    Binder Boy won’t do anything but he should move Rodriguez down in the batting order until he actually starts driving the ball past 2nd base although it is probably going to be a very long wait.

    I hear he’s taking extra BP with Kevin Long, though, maybe he’ll be able to turn on a 50 mph heater from Kevin this morning and get himself going.

  295. Andymelillo September 30th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Red sox nation would commit themselves if Francona becomes the next yankee manager

  296. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Bret–

    Be realistic.

    How do you make the team more athletic, younger and faster?

    What tradeable young, affordable, major league ready and proven assets would another teams GM be willing to take a chance on after scouting them this season?

    Nova-Don’t think so
    Nunez-If you want a DH
    Hughes-not affordable after next season
    Gardner-not proven to be 100%

    Aah there is one-Phelps-but as the centerpiece of a trade to get a coveted young stud OF’er? Don’t think so

    Any others that fit the criteria of young, affordable, and major league ready and proven?

  297. Madrugador September 30th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    The game has changed. The days of being able to sign a free agent in his prime are gone. Young players are being signed to long term deals before they hit the market. Will Adam Jones pan out for the O’s? Will Eva Longoria pan out for the Rays? Developing your own young talent is becoming the norm for all teams and doing this depends on your position in the draft, your ability to scout and your ability to recognize and develop young talent. The yanks are trying to cut their payroll but it is at least partly because the game has changed.

  298. 86w183 September 30th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    Bret —

    I strongly disagree with your OF plan. The Yanks do not need to keep Ichiro. He’s old, slowing down and his throwing arm is shot. He can not play every day.

    I don’t want to see any of the senility corps around in 2013 — Jones, Ibanez, Ichiro and Chavez need to be replaced. Some think Granderson has trade value if the Yanks pick up his option ($ 15 M) but I’m not convinced.

    I do like BJ Upton… more than most in this neighborhood. and I’d take a flyer on Melky if the $$$ are low as they likely will be.

  299. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    Trader,

    The only realistic way to add a young athletic player with speed is to sign one because the Yankees don’t have the resources to acquire one in a trade. BJ Upton should really be a target and Ichiro should be back in RF. I don’t care how old he is. He’ll hit .300 next year and probably the year after that. He is hitting .330 as a Yankee.

    I don’t foresee any blockbuster deals in the off season. We’d be lucky to add BJ Upton or Melky Cabrera.

  300. MG September 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:14 am
    MG-

    I don’t have access to the post game interviews with Girardi, but after reading all of the above in Chad’s post It is such bs and the players add the same old hackneyed cliches.

    And I too have been following the Yankees a long time and really can’t stand to watch them.

    They’ll get into the playoffs. Maybe they’ll go in as the WC, fly off to Oakland for the one game playoff, lose the game and get to read in the NY Tabloids the next morning “Moneyball beats Money.”
    ————————–
    YT, is really is pathetic, this is the most irritated I’ve been at one of my teams since the Giants lost to the Eagles on the punt return a couple of years ago. I recovered from that one (although it took a week or so), maybe I’ll get over yesterday as well.

    Girardi is completely disingenuous in his interviews, he’s as interesting to watch as drying paint.

    It’s one thing to rely on the home run all season, it’s another to be playing this game all your life and not know how to move runners along and put the ball in play when you have to. I can give Granderson a pass for the pop up with the bases loaded yesterday because he hit one to the warning track on a line the previous time up (that was just bad luck) but Jones not only K’ed 2X he didn’t even come close to making contact in either AB. And Girardi talks about him getting good swings, what a liar.

  301. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    86,

    You don’t want Ichiro back? He’s hitting .330 as a Yankee! The guy has 174 hits on the year after a brutal start. If he needs rest then the Yankees would need to add Headley (by trading Granderson in a 3-way deal). Headley could play some RF in place of Ichiro when Alex plays 3B and Derek DH’s.

  302. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    2 for 11 with RISP.

    I remember it was 1 for 9 with RISP after the 3rd inning.

    What does that tell you?

    No one was on base after the 3rd- 3 measely hits, 2 walks

  303. blake September 30th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    “I’d love to have Buck Showalter managing the Yankees again. The guy is a baseball encyclopedia.”

    I’d love to have some players that can hit

  304. 86w183 September 30th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    I could live with him in a platoon, but no, I don’t want him back.

    the problem with the senility corps is they are fine (with the exception of Andruw Jones) as part timers, but are mediocre-to-bad if they play too much.

    The Yanks have four such players when you should never have more than one or two. You need a RH bat to share PT with Ichiro, not Dickerson. Mesa?

  305. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Headley has 30 HR and 112 RBI. His OPS is near .900. He plays 3B. He switch hits. He can spot in RF or LF in a pinch. And he’s in his prime.

    NO WAY ARE THE PADRES TRADING HIM

    I wanted to trade Hughes for him this past offseason. People flipped out over that.

  306. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    MG-

    We talked about Smiley Jones yesterday, and how could Girardi, who likes matchups, even consider Jones. If I remember his OPS vs Romero were so bad and the OPS at Rogers Center were even worse.

    Jones hasn’t contributed one iota since the early July series in Fenway.

  307. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    There’s a huge gap in productivity between Jones and Ibanez vs. Ichiro.

  308. blake September 30th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    I said the other day that a split in Toronto and 2 of 3 against Boston would be enough to win the division….I hope they can actually win today and test my theory.

  309. blake September 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    another really big start for Hughes….he’s had a lot of them the last month or so…..hopefully he’ll step up…..today is a must win.

  310. Tidrow September 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    It’s funny how some of the people who delighted in the Red Sox collapse this season are the same people now on their hands and knees desperately begging them to help Yankees out with a win against the Orioles. Isn’t karma a funny thing….lol

  311. yankee21 September 30th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    A real good clue on how far Arod has descended from being one of the elite bats in the game to just a slight above average hitter as a 3B.

    Real simple, he looks for the walk. Just pass the buck to the next guy.

    Guys in their prime are difficult to walk because they go up there hacking, confident they can square up anybody’s FB and drive in runs.

  312. austinmac September 30th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Ichiro has played well for the Yankees. However, if he comes back it will be to replace Swisher while leaving he and Gardner as the corner outfielders. That is getting worse and older. Add Upton to give more pop in left and I can live with that. That, however, won’t happen.

  313. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    86w183-

    You want a right handed bat, an OF’er, correct?

    What would the Royals or Diamondbacks or Twins, etc want for players like Gordon, or Upton, or Willingham?

    If they want proven young affordable players, what realistically are you going to offer them as the “centerpiece” to a deal?,

  314. 86w183 September 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Don’t overreact to two good (great) weeks for Ichiro. He’s hitting .453 for the last 12 games, but was just a .269 hitter before that…. with little power.

    I agree Headley would be damn near impossible to acquire. Better to target BJ Upton and/or Melky in FA and maybe Justin in a deal. A healthy Gardner has value as does Hughes. And despite his recent struggles there would be a ton of interest in Nova

    The only reason Headley might be available is he’s about to get VERY expensive.

  315. austinmac September 30th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    I agree Headley isn’t going anywhere, and certainly not the Yankees. We have AROD to man 3B for 80 games a year with his sub.800 OPS. How long until it’s a sub .700 OPS? I’d say two more years.

  316. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Alex Rodriguez has 5 more years with the Yankees. He needs 115 HR to tie Barry Bonds. He would need 23 HR per year. He hit 16 in a shortened 2011 season and has hit 18 in a shortened 2012. He is going to have to stay on the field and considering the way his body has broken down and how Girardi likes to rest his veterans, I feel like it’s a longshot for Arod. He will go down in history as the 2nd best illegitimate HR hitter.

  317. Tidrow September 30th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    I would bring back Ichiro because he seems to be like Jeter in that he takes good care of himself and his body type seems to age well in baseball as opposed to big slugger types who seem to break down at an earlier age. Also keeping Ichiro wouldn’t make them older because i’m assuming alot of the geritol set will be let go ( Garcia, Jones, Ibanez, Chavez etc.) and hopefully replaced by younger more athletic players that can rejuvenate this tired old team.

  318. austinmac September 30th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    This year’s Yankees are last year’s Red Sox without the acrimony. Next year’s team will be much like this year’s Sox if significant changes aren’t made. Continuing to age is not the way to run a team.

  319. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Agreed 100% Tidrow. Fans have to remember that Garcia, Jones, Ibanez and Chavez will be gone. It’s unfair to lump Ichiro in with them. Ichiro is in Jeter’s class because he takes good care of himself, has a body type that is agile and flexible and has a swing/approach to the ball that will age well.

  320. Shame Spencer September 30th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Um… wtf was going on here last night?! Almost as fun of a read as when Pat M. was popping some scripts lmao. Maybe for today’s game I’ll crack open a bottle of wine and get the objective pipe out for old times sake. Prepare to be dazzled with my insight, fellas lol…

    Anyway, yesterday was really painful. This loss and the one to the Twins is going to ache. We need to get Hughes some run support. I think it’s been great for his development to have to pitch so many high stress innings over the past couple months, but the kid needs some wiggle room.

  321. blake September 30th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    “This year’s Yankees are last year’s Red Sox without the acrimony. Next year’s team will be much like this year’s Sox if significant changes aren’t made. Continuing to age is not the way to run a team.”

    I think there are similarities but this Yankees team has much more pedigree….heart….desire…etc than those cry babies from Boston….which is the Yanks despite as much adversity are going to make the playoffs while the Sox totally collapsed.

    I actually see more in common with the Phillies who knowingly neglected areas of their club for years and the a lot of guys either got too old or injured at the same time for them to compete.

    It’s actually amazing to me that the Yankees are even in the position they are in given the injuries and underperformance they have dealt with……with is both a testament to their heart…..and also an indictment on the people who put the club together.

  322. Shame Spencer September 30th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    86w183 September 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Don’t overreact to two good (great) weeks for Ichiro. He’s hitting .453 for the last 12 games, but was just a .269 hitter before that…. with little power.

    ————–

    I haven’t watched him in enough in the past couple seasons but maybe Compass can help us out… my take is that he’s very streaky (like many of our other hitters).

    Wouldn’t be bad as a cheap 4th OF option for next year, but we can’t expect a .300 hitter.

  323. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Nats have Anthony Rendon and Zimmerman at 3B. Talk about greedy. Would love to dangle Granderson to them and see if we can work something out. Zimmerman is expensive but Granderson will probably cost the same amount on a long-term deal.

  324. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Austinmac-

    Aging is a major problem on the team. However when we talk about trading Hughes, or Nova, or Phelps for that matter to get a bat, are they really going to get younger pitching wise?

    Rivera return for one more season
    Pettitte back
    Kuroda again

  325. Bo knows September 30th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    It’s funny how the latest and greatest – OPS which focuses on HRs and walks is breaking down. The Yankees live and die with HRs and walks, have become pull hitters. So the book on the Yankees is throw strikes on the outside corner and shift. Don’t walk them. To add to the agony, Jeter is been rolling over as well, in the last few games.

  326. blake September 30th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    I think Ichiro may have figured things out a bit and could carry it over to next year…..Jeter did…..I’d like to have him back on a one year deal if they were also able to add a RH power bat to play the other corner.

    I’m not wild about a Gardner, Granderson, Ichiro outfield…..that’s very little power on the corners and also very left handed.

  327. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    BJ Upton deserves Rafael Soriano’s money. You just know Soriano’s coming off the books. Maybe this is a situation that calls for Levine intervention.

  328. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Blake and everyone-

    Knowing what you know now about the team, if the Dodgers had come to the Yankees instead of Boston, willing to trade for A-Rod as long as Sabathia was included and both had waived their NTC, would you have made that deal? Would you now?

  329. blake September 30th, 2012 at 9:57 am

    “Don’t walk them. ”

    the A’s showed the blueprint back in Oakland in that 4 game sweep…..where I think they walked the Yanks only 2 or 3 times the entire series. The Yankees approach is to work counts and try to damage a mistake…..if you throw strikes and get ahead of them it totally throws them out of their game plan because most of the lineup has a poor 2 strike approach.

  330. blake September 30th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    “Knowing what you know now about the team, if the Dodgers had come to the Yankees instead of Boston, willing to trade for A-Rod as long as Sabathia was included and both had waived their NTC, would you have made that deal? Would you now?”

    I don’t know…..who are you going to replace those players with? Would the Yankees even spend the money saved? I’d like to get out from under Arod’s contract but who is replacing Sabathia? You trade CC and Hughes suddenly is your best pitcher under contract for 2013 and signing Greinke would probably cost almost as much as what Sabathia has left on his deal. The Red Sox got flexibility money wise with that deal…..the problem is that there isn’t a lot to buy right now with that money.

  331. blake September 30th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    Arod and Sabathia would have helped the Dodgers more than the players they got….

  332. austinmac September 30th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    YT,

    I don’t know how they get younger this winter. They had all the chances in the world last year.

    I utterly agree the blame rests with Hal. Old spending mistakes now prevent any significant spending under the Hal regime. If that is the direction they continue to go, I forecast a number of down years.

    Ichiro will likely replace Swisher. The bench will be re-worked. The team will not be better as the core group ages even more. It is all due to injuries, bad luck and bad umpiring. Didn’t you get the memo? Winning games is a crapshoot. Therefore, don’t risk any more money going forward.

  333. Bo knows September 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    …..if you throw strikes and get ahead of them it totally throws them out of their game plan because most of the lineup has a poor 2 strike approach.
    —–

    The two strike approach – That’s what drives me crazy. The refusal to spoil a pitch, no bat control, pulling the low outside pitch, the failure to adjust to the offspeed pitches.

  334. NYYanksFan September 30th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    The “sorry ass Jays” took of 2 of 4 from the Orioles in Camden this week. Either/or they aren’t as sorry ass as you think/they are liking playing spoiler.

  335. blake September 30th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    I can’t wait until Cashman is interviewed at the Winter meetings and he says that Tex going down was the problem with offense and that Alex just never got his timing….and they expect these guys to perform better next year….

  336. Bret The Hitman September 30th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Team needs more fire.

    Young players tend to have more of it but you can’t discount the vets who play their hearts out.

    Ichiro needs to be back – firey ballplayer. BJ Upton is firey as well. Melky is a pest even though he hotdogs it. He could come here for a 1 year deal and rebuild his image.

    The team needs more ballplayers that play the game with high intensity.

    BJ Upton, Ichiro, Melky.

    Those 3 would be nice additions and would fit the budget.

  337. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Yankees live and die with HRs and walks, have become pull hitters. So the book on the Yankees is throw strikes on the outside corner and shift. Don’t walk them. To add to the agony, Jeter is been rolling over as well, in the last few games.
    —————————————-
    Bo-

    The Yankees are definitely affected by the shift, as I’ve posted ad nauseum. The Rays and O’s use them the most. Until the Yankees either get rid of the mentality of lefties wanting to only pull the ball, shooting for the short RF fence in YS, they will not be successful in consistently being able to manufacture runs in the late innings of a close game.

  338. blake September 30th, 2012 at 10:08 am

    “The team needs more ballplayers that play the game with high intensity.”

    I think they mainly just need more prime aged players

  339. yankee21 September 30th, 2012 at 10:08 am

    If a reporter who was on their game overheard Cashman and/or Girardi dare say that winning playoffs is a crapshoot, then they should point out that the 4 championships in 5 years NY won a few years back was just luck, right?

    Can’t have it both ways.

  340. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Sorry Bret, I don’t get the love for BJ Upton. Not only is he not that good, he sometimes seems to have attitude problems.

    I bet in one year Tyler Austin could do what BJ Upton is doing right now, aside from playing CF, which Gardner can do.

    Just sign Melky to a one year make good deal. Gardner – Granderson – Melky is a good 2013 OF. Melky slides in perfectly in the #2 spot in the order. That buys time to see what we have in guys like Austin and Mason Williams.

    Then either move Arod to DH and find a 3B solution, or get a full time DH.

  341. austinmac September 30th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    I said after the A’s series team will throw strikes and make them win by solo homers. They rarely string hits together.

    I also agree it is age and an old skill set that is the problem. They are trying.

  342. 86w183 September 30th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    They probably can’t do anything to “young up” the infield, so they have to do it in the OF and the bench.

    Upton isn’t perfect, but he gives the Yanks MUCH better defense in CF and MUCH more speed on the bases. You can’t get younger and more athletic without taking chances and making compromises.

    That’s why I’d take a chance on Melky. High reward, low risk type of acquisition.

    An OF of Gardner, Upton and Melky would be cheaper, younger and far more athletic than an OF of Ichiro, Granderson and Swisher.

  343. Madrugador September 30th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    “I don’t get the love for BJ Upton. Not only is he not that good, he sometimes seems to have attitude problems.”

    I don’t get the Upton love either. He is an average hitter at best and an attitude problem that drags a team down. Tampa will be happy to be rid of him.

    It is hard for me to put to much faith behind Melky’s recent success given his past performance. Is he as productive without the drugs? I kind of doubt it.

    Ichiro? Not young any more. Don’t believe anything you see in September. Cheaply enough, maybe as a fourth outfielder.


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