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Rodriguez back at third

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 30, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher 1B
Curtis Granderson CF
Raul Ibanez LF
Russell Martin C
Eric Chavez DH

RHP Phil Hughes

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208 Responses to “Rodriguez back at third”

  1. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Sorry Bret, I don’t get the love for BJ Upton. Not only is he not that good, he sometimes seems to have attitude problems.

    I bet in one year Tyler Austin could do what BJ Upton is doing right now, aside from playing CF, which Gardner can do.

    Just sign Melky to a one year make good deal. Gardner – Granderson – Melky is a good 2013 OF. Melky slides in perfectly in the #2 spot in the order. That buys time to see what we have in guys like Austin and Mason Williams.

    Then either move Arod to DH and find a 3B solution, or get a full time DH.

  2. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    For the past 10 days or so Alex seems to be hitting a lot of balls up the middle. This is probably his way of trying to “get right”. I don’t think it’s working though. I think he should take some more aggressive swings.

  3. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Looks like the lineup of a must win by Girardi. Maybe he’s been told by the FO that either the Yankees win the division or your job is on the line.

    If you see Jones playing at all today then I’m wrong :)

    Until later. Probably will tune into the Ryder Cup for excitement. :(

    Have a great day.

  4. Shame Spencer September 30th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Alex needs to retool his swing this winter. Focus on contact and not power.

  5. 86w183 September 30th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    They probably can’t do anything to “young up” the infield, so they have to do it in the OF and the bench.

    Upton isn’t perfect, but he gives the Yanks MUCH better defense in CF and MUCH more speed on the bases. You can’t get younger and more athletic without taking chances and making compromises.

    That’s why I’d take a chance on Melky. High reward, low risk type of acquisition.

    An OF of Gardner, Upton and Melky would be cheaper, younger and far more athletic than an OF of Ichiro, Granderson and Swisher.

  6. 86w183 September 30th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    As for the lineup, I’d rather see Ibanez DH and Dickerson in LF.

    I guess he’s too damn young for Girardi to put him in the lineup.

  7. Yankees_Fan September 30th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    86w183 says: September 30, 2012 at 10:30 am As for the lineup, I’d rather see Ibanez DH and Dickerson in LF.

    Iguess he’s too damn young for Girardi to put him in the lineup.

    *****

    Agree with this. Dickerson is too underrated here considering guys like Jones keep getting chances andare so much worse at the plate.

  8. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    I’m wondering if any of our minor league guys will ever get a real shot (aside from maybe middle relief) like Jeter, Bernie and Posada did.

    Dickerson hit .316 .417 .515 .932 in the minors this year and has hit .333 .467 .833 1.300 so far in the majors. He could put him in LF and save the geriatric Ibanez from having to run around on the turf, and have a big defensive upgrade.

  9. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Shame Spencer September 30th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Alex needs to retool his swing this winter. Focus on contact and not power.

    That’s what he has been doing lately and it’s not producing anything. Almost everything he hits is single material up the middle. I think he needs to get back to more aggressive swings, at least with < 2 strikes.

  10. yankee21 September 30th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    I like the speed and defensive tools BJ brings. His hit game does not impress me.
    OTOH, if I can move Grandy for some useful pieces, and the price tag for BJ makes sense, I wouldn’t turn it down.

    My sense is as long as Cashman is around Melky will not wear pinstripes again.

    Ultimately with Hal it will come down to price. Remember the primary objective is 189 the secondary objective is 28.

  11. Ken Phelps September 30th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    You wonder if Giradi is thinking to himself….”okay how do I get jones and Booney in the game today”

  12. 86w183 September 30th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    If the Yanks don’t make the playoffs or are one and done that might convince Hal that the quest for a $ 189 M payroll is not “worth” the risk.

    Not that there’s a ton of prime FA talent out there, but Peavy or Grienke would be nice additions and you have Upton and the ultra-risky Josh Hamilton out there.

  13. blake September 30th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    “You wonder if Giradi is thinking to himself….”okay how do I get jones and Booney in the game today”

    nah….he’s already figured that out Im sure

  14. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Hughes needs to pitch 5+ innings with 0 ER or 7.1+ innings with 1 ER to get his ERA under 4, for those wondering. :)

  15. Shame Spencer September 30th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    jacksquat – It still looks like he’s swinging for power to me.

  16. Tar September 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Ibanez role on this team should be DH/late inning- pinch hit big bopper. That’s been my biggest issue with Joe as of late.

    The loyalty to some veterans is just mind boggling. I get you stick with players like Jeter and Alex and Tex etc. But why Jones and Ibanez and others? Ibanez has a role on this team, its just not as an everyday fielder.

  17. Benny Blanco September 30th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Thanks jacksquat! I was just wondering!

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  19. Madrugador September 30th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    JS- “I’m wondering if any of our minor league guys will ever get a real shot (aside from maybe middle relief) like Jeter, Bernie and Posada did.”

    Great question! Are the Yanks touting their young talent to just pump up their value so they can trade them later? Is that what they did with Montero? Did Montero ever really have a shot with this club? I’d like to see some of these young guys get a shot.

  20. yankfan1 September 30th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    if im the Yankees I would take a look at Delmon Young. I don’t know what his price range is, and I realize he has holes in his game. He will strike out 100 times, and his defence is pretty bad. However, he does have a strong arm, and most importantly the guy is great with RISP. He has hit over .300 with RISP for his whole career, is hitting about .290ish this year. Hes more of a line drive hitter than a homerun one, which this lineup could use. Hes not much worse than Ibanez and Jones in the OF, hes not gonna kill you. I view him as more of a DH type, but if its a rotating DH, he can be the one as the DH when Arod and Jete are both playing, and play the OF when theyre DHing. Just an options for the Yankees. I like the idea of signing Melky to a 1 year deal too, but idk what we are going to get out of him. I’d rather sign Ichiro to a 1 year deal, move Gardner to CF, ship Grandy, and try to replace him with a corner outfielder, maybe Swish if the market is favorable, or preferably Justin Upton if theyre still shipping him

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Morning all! Well things do look much better to me in the light of day. So here’s what I want the rest of the way through:

    1. The Yankees to look like the Yankees, not a rag-tag version of the Yankees. Play good crisp baseball, don’t make mistakes in the field, focus on winning every game. (I said last night I think the team is like me in the sense that they almost need a granade under them to kick them into gear. As long as there’s a tomorrow, there’s no need to panic. Well today is that tomorrow.)

    2. Tex back at first base. I don’t think we realize just how much he brings to the game.

    3. Girardi making extremely sound decisions and learning from things that may not have worked. He doesn’t have to admit anything publicly, as long as he knows there’s a better way to do things – and he does them.

    4. Small ball and situational hitting when the occasion calls for it. And don’t tell me that team doesn’t know how to play small ball. We’ve seen them do it with our own eyes. There’s a big difference between being unable and being unwilling.

    For today I’d like the Sux to win, though I don’t know if that’s even a possibility with the kid they have lined up to pitch. They of course are saving their best for us.

    I’d also like the Rays to pound the tar out of the O’s. Even if it ends up that the Rays aren’t playing for a postseason position – something I see as more likely than unlikely, though one never knows – I don’t want them to roll over and die.

    Well there’s my wish list. It’s all attainable. I haven’t asked for anything that can’t be accomplished.

  22. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    I wonder if Joe is sensitive to rookies/young guys taking veterans’ spots since he basically lost his job to Posada.

  23. MG September 30th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    The Yankees have no one but themselves to blame for the Sox holding back their best until the last series-Girardi’s bs of throwing minor league pitchers in the game against the Rays last year so they blew that 7 run lead (and let the Rays in the playoffs) had to stick in the craw of the Sox players and management.

    Turn around is fair play, the Yankees, if they want the AL East, have to play like champions the next 4 days and, as a long time fan, I don’t think that is too much to ask from them.

  24. Madrugador September 30th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    This isn’t high school or college sports where the seniors get to play regardless of their talent or the talent below them. This is MLB Baseball. If Joe is deferring to the veterans out of some sense of allegiance, he has no place being a MLB manager.

  25. backbench September 30th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    “I wonder if Joe is sensitive to rookies/young guys taking veterans’ spots since he basically lost his job to Posada.

    Great question.

  26. Tar September 30th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    JS

    Could be. I think its some sort of combination of things. Playing veterans is definitely the safer move. It’s more of a covering your a@@ kind of mentality. Its almost seems to me like he’s “playing not to lose”, instead of playing to win. Very frustrating at times.

    See everybody later.

  27. yankee21 September 30th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    …..If Joe is deferring to the veterans out of some sense of allegiance, he has no place being a MLB manager….

    He’s been doing that for the 5 years he has managed for the Yankees. He goes overboard in his protection of veterans constantly giving them the benefit of the doubt. OTOH he thinks nothing about criticisizing the younger players (granted there have been few of them) in public.

    I should have kept his quotes he likes to play tough guy with the rookies and young players yet he is scared to death of offending a veteran.

  28. Bo knows September 30th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Joe’s chance for playing Dickerson was yesterday. At this point I guess he dances with the ones that brung him.

    The sad part is that Ibanez the most professional hitter on this team has caught the HR disease.

  29. tucker September 30th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    “jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    “Just sign Melky to a one year make good deal. Gardner – Granderson – Melky is a good 2013 OF. Melky slides in perfectly in the #2 spot in the order. That buys time to see what we have in guys like Austin and Mason Williams.”

    I like Gardner, but I don’t think you can hand him one of three outfield spots and expect him to last the whole year. The guy is fragile. Yanks best plan is to make him a platoon or fourth outfielder.

  30. MG September 30th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Since Girardi manages from his binder he has little or no feel for who is hot and who is not. He should have sat Jones down a month ago and told him that he can’t play guys who hack at every pitch and strikeout all the time, particularly with Granderson having to play and having the same approach.

    Many of you have said that Dickerson should be playing more and each time he has been on the field and at the plate he has done well.

    For him not to be playing on a more regular basis is just stupid-if he cools off, you sit him, it’s the way things have been done for the whole history of baseball.

  31. jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    tucker September 30th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    “jacksquat September 30th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    “Just sign Melky to a one year make good deal. Gardner – Granderson – Melky is a good 2013 OF. Melky slides in perfectly in the #2 spot in the order. That buys time to see what we have in guys like Austin and Mason Williams.”

    I like Gardner, but I don’t think you can hand him one of three outfield spots and expect him to last the whole year. The guy is fragile. Yanks best plan is to make him a platoon or fourth outfielder.

    I think you can because he is the #9 hitter, and playing LF. If he gets hurt use your backup and/or bring up a minor leaguer. And I wouldn’t say he’s fragile anyway, he played 150 games in 2010 and 159 games in 2011.

  32. MG September 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Great (and good) baseball managers have always known how to play the hot hand.

    Showalter has his faults (particularly on a long term basis) but knows how to play the hot hand, that’s why Reynolds and several others are in the lineup and contributing.

    Maddon is the same way, he moves some of his guys in and out of the lineup until he finds the hot hand(s), that’s why they’ve come back the last two weeks.

    Torre knew how to play the hot hand, that’s why guys like Shane Spencer got a shot to be a hero for awhile. Many of you think he overdid it in the bullpen but that’s why he did it, most of those relievers weren’t very good anyway.

    Girardi has no clue about playing the hot hand, he just goes with his binder and the lefty-righty crap. He is a textbook manager in absolutely the wrong way.

  33. LGY September 30th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    To be fair, Joe is probably still trying to decide who to start at DH vs RHP when Tex gets back so it makes sense to have both Ibanez and Chavez in the lineup to see how their swinging the bat heading into October.

  34. Madrugador September 30th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Used to think Girardi managed his pitchers well but didn’t have a clue when it came to his offense. Now I am not so sure he has a grip on either.

  35. tucker September 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    He dealt with wrist issues in 2010 or 2011 and went through prolonged stretches where he would not swing at running two seamers that were strikes. So he may have played, but he played hurt in a lot of games.

  36. backbench September 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Madrugador,

    Bob K would agree with you, emphatically.

    http://www.northjersey.com/spo....._East.html

  37. tucker September 30th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Frankly, I’d like to see what Dickerson could do if he had a legit shot at a position, or at least a platoon position.

  38. yankee21 September 30th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    In Ibanez’ short time here it appears he has a knack for coming off the bench as a PH.

    OTOH, Chavez appears he does not do well sitting on the bench all day and then PH.

    Does it take Girardi this long to figure out who has what skills?

  39. LGY September 30th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    The Yankees are going to need to sign/acquire an OF and a DH this winter.

    Which means that signing Ichiro doesn’t necessarily mean Gritner and Ichi in the corners.

    Sign Ichiro and go after J Up. Ichiro, Upton, Grandy, Gardy OF/DH rotation.

  40. Captain Clutch September 30th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    The Yanks shouldn’t expect any help from the Rays. Hopefully they win tonight with Price on the mound and then they are alive for tomorrow. A loss today and this series against the O’s means absolutely nothing since they are eliminated. The Yanks probably need to win 3-4 to still be able to win the division. The Sox definitely aren’t going to give them a break. Lester against Nova is a terrible matchup for the Yanks on Tuesday.

  41. Cashmoney September 30th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Yanks are on the rope and ready to be knock out….

  42. DONNYBROOK September 30th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    I keep thinking back to that BLOWN call at 1B on TEX in Balt. The Yanks winning that game, woulda resulted inna 2 game switch in the standings. Yet, the media wants to Focus on the Green Bay Packers getting jobbed in Week 3.
    That horrendously BLOWN call on the Gardner SB of 2B was made by Welke. He’s the same jug head that cost the Yanks Thursday’s game when he umped the plate. He reversed several counts throughout the game, that Shoulda put the Yankee sticks in hitter’s counts with men on base. The Horrible strike calls late in the game, gave the Yankees scant chance of a comeback. Ever since that TEX call, the Yanks can NOT get a close call in their favor. Girardi needs to go Lou Pinella and put the Umps on notice.
    What up with Girardi’s panic move of jerking Nunez and losing the DH by moving Jeet from DH to SS EARLY in the game??? Girardi continues choking on the bone.

  43. NYY fan in NH September 30th, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    don’t forget the Sox have a ton of money for this winter and will outbid for the FA’s available which in turn will take the Yanks out of running with Hal’s fickle budget demands. Cashman really screwed NY this year with his trades and lack of improvement at the deadline.

  44. Madrugador September 30th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Yeah, I hope the Sox get all the FA’s they can buy. See what good it will do them because it’s killing us.

  45. Cashmoney September 30th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    If Cash and Hal can’t see this team’s offense needs a major overhaul and there maybe no quick fix unless you slurge on a hamilton, then something is wrong. The question really is – do you gear up to go for it all in 13 or start rebuilding a new core next year. to stand pat will not benefit this team in the long haul. nor will dumpster diving patchwork do. i think one sound plan is start that process in 14 as it actually goes with Hal’s budget mandate.

  46. longtimefan September 30th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Oh Crap, I was hoping to see Andruw Jones light it up again…

  47. Niblick September 30th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Hopefully these are the last four regular season games of Binder Joe’s Yankee career.

  48. Duh Innings II September 30th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Could Cano be further away from 3B with the infield drawn in? What a dumbass.

    If the Yanks lose this game it’s on him as well as Hughes who is a #4 starter at best.

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