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Kuroda: “I never enjoyed pitching”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 03, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

We all get used to certain answers to certain questions, especially in a Yankees clubhouse where it’s assumed that everyone loves the pressure of a big game. Win-to-clinch on the last day of the season must be fun for everyone in there, right?

“To be honest with you, I never enjoyed playing baseball,” Hiroki Kuroda said. “I never enjoyed pitching, to be honest with you. Whether it’s a spring training game or a regular-season game, I like to put a certain amount of pressure on myself to be as normal as I can, even in that kind of atmosphere.”

There might have been something lost in the translation, but Kuroda’s response to the natural follow-up — why don’t you enjoy pitching? — left little doubt that the translation was correct, even if it’s meaning wasn’t so cut-and-dry.

“I’m not saying this because I’m with the Yankees,” Kuroda said. “This has been all throughout my professional career. There’s a lot of responsibility as a starting pitcher, so rather than enjoy myself out there, I feel that I must fulfill my responsibility and that’s my priority.”

Maybe Kuroda sees a game like this a little differently than his teammates, or maybe he’s simply a little more honest about the pressure to win in a big spot. Whatever Kuroda’s approach, the Yankees need him to be better than he was in September. They need him to be the guy who carried this rotation through much of the season, and obviously Kuroda is well aware that’s the case.

“At this point in the season, I can’t really make an adjustment,” he said. “I have to take everything that I have and that I’ve learned in this season with this team and with this league. How I pitch that day depends on how I feel that day. I just have to go out there and do my best.”

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133 Responses to “Kuroda: “I never enjoyed pitching””

  1. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Kuroda is the right man for the job tonight!

  2. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    I think that statement kinda speaks to the cultural difference more than anything….

    Kinda like how Ichiro thinks about not disrespecting his bats because a person made them…

  3. mate October 3rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    How do you take up baseball as a kid and keep working at it to get as good as Kuroda has been in his career without enjoying it? Don’t understand.

  4. ctyankeefan. October 3rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    mate October 3rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    How do you take up baseball as a kid and keep working at it to get as good as Kuroda has been in his career without enjoying it? Don’t understand.

    —————-

    You should probably read the article on him playing baseball growing up. Pretty brutal.

  5. RadioKev October 3rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    blake October 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    I think that statement kinda speaks to the cultural difference more than anything….

    Kinda like how Ichiro thinks about not disrespecting his bats because a person made them…
    —————-

    Yeah, I mean, we view baseball as a game. American baseball players think of it as play. Perhaps Kuroda views it more as his work and profession, with real responsibility. We obviously know his background growing up and playing baseball in high school…the culture was definitely different.

  6. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Yea what Kuroda went through could certainly make a guy think the game isnt all that fun….

  7. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Yea….I do think they see it more as a career or job and they feel its their responsibility to perform.

  8. mate October 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    ctyankeefan. October 3rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    I’m off to looking for this article you speak of!

  9. MG October 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    I’ve spent lots of time in Japan in my career and the Japanese culture has to make it virtually impossible for a high level baseball player to feel good about the game.

    Baseball is a game of failure, the Japanese culture frowns on failure and avoids even talking about it. I don’t know how guys like Ichiro and Kuroda deal with that other than working as hard as possible and taking every day like it their last.

    Anyway, on to tonight, I think the Yankees have at least a 90% chance of victory facing Matsuzaka, a guy they know very well and have usually scored runs against him. Unless Kuroda gives up a bunch of runs early they will win out and clinch the East.

  10. Hassey October 3rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    is there even one other team in the league that you’d prefer we play tonight, or starter to face?

  11. The Other Phil October 3rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Mate: Here it is. http://tinyurl.com/9cmsm62

  12. mate October 3rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    wow … @ Kuroda in Japan. I can understand where he’s coming from now.

  13. Jerkface October 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Greetings from the future. As many of you know, Japan operates 13 hours into the future. It is already well into the evening of wednesday oct 3rd, or the early morning of thursday oct 4th. I come to you with a message of the fate of the Yankees. Please do not take these words lightly, as I am breaking many international time travel treaties to bring you this. The Yankees are regarded as the AL East Champions, after touching up Matsuzaka for 4 runs in 4.1 shaky innings. Kuroda held the Red Sox to 2 runs, showing continued improvement over his recent command issues. It will look dicey in the later innings, but 2 lineouts to Ichiro & Swisher will save the season.

    The Orioles will continue to win improbably, as improbably as the Rays continue to be shut down by them. In the AL West the Rangers are currently losing to the A’s, their players looking visibly shaken by the deafening roar of the Coliseum. They are not to fed to the lions today, the vengeful A’s fans calling for the monstrous Cespedes to be released instead.

    My time runs short, the time cops are coming, I can’t be axe kicked again, not after the last time. I’d wish you good luck, but I already know your outcomes.

  14. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Thanks JF…now watching tonight should be stress free

  15. mate October 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    The Other Phil October 3rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Thanks! I found it a couple of mins ago.

    I was completely in the dark about that stuff!

  16. Shame Spencer October 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    I love Kuroda.

  17. Bo knows October 3rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    MG
    —————–
    That “Baseball is a game of failure” struck a chord from playing back when and helped me understand why I get so torqued at the “Girardi is a (fill in the blank)”. I start playing blog police and hate doing it.

  18. G. Love October 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    I hope Kuroda nails it down tonight. He’s been there the whole season for this team and has been our most consistent starter. I think it would be a great moment for him to know he pitched the game that won the division.

    The key to tonight is not swinging at Dice K’s junk and getting yourself out. If they don’t swing at his junk, he’ll walk guys and we’ll blow the game open.

    If the “hero swingers” can’t check their emotions and swing at his off speed stuff that rarely hits the strike zone, we’re going to be in for a long night.

    I’m hoping they crush him, score early and often and it’s just a countdown to victory. Sori’s kind of cooked after throwing that many pitches last night, but I think we can get an inning or a few outs, out of him if need be.

    I’d love to see Kuroda go 8 tonight and bring this home.

    What I’m excited about right now is Girardi didn’t get to rest the entire team for a week before the post season and then expect them to turn it on 2 weeks later.

    The team is scrapping right now and the best thing they can have mentally heading into the playoffs is that feeling in their bones.

    Ibanez reminded me of Jorge at this point last season. Where he knew if he didn’t do something, no one would, so he got the job done.

    I’m not going to get into what I think about Tex’s night other than it was the worst night I think I’ve ever seen for a Yankee hitter in all my life. If they hadn’t pulled it out last night the focus quite fairly would’ve been placed on him and Girardi’s idiotic decision to bat him 4th.

    Hopefully, tonight the guys can relax and not get themselves out.

    I think they do it.

    Mojo’s rising.

  19. RedSoxFever2013 October 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Dice K >> Krapoda

  20. Big Bad Boss Tone Ian October 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    My my my, my Kuroda!

  21. Big Bad Boss Tone Ian October 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Deuce K??

  22. Shame Spencer October 3rd, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Kuroda is the reason we are in a position to win the division and secure the best record this season.

    He should have had at least 3 more wins than our club was able to earn him.

    Class act. He’s my #1 priority this off season.

  23. Shame Spencer October 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Ahahahahahaha… @th3danyanks

    @baldvinny get a load if this douchebag! pic.twitter.com/0Iw9cTBU

  24. Bo knows October 3rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    My my my, my Kuroda!

    ————–
    That was actually good until I noticed that there was one “my’ too many. Picky but true.

  25. Doc Iac October 3rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    dice k has a career era 4.47, he had 1 good year, what a joke

  26. G. Love October 3rd, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Doc Iac,

    He helped them win a title in 07. He’s their version of AJ except they kept him and AJ stayed healthy.

  27. Against All Odds October 3rd, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Yanks place three on Baseball America’s Top 20 Sally League Prospects list

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/...../#comments

  28. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    “What I’m excited about right now is Girardi didn’t get to rest the entire team for a week before the post season and then expect them to turn it on 2 weeks later”

    Im hoping this having to fight all month will sharpen the Yanks edge for the playoffs…..also hope they haven’t gotten physically and mentally drained from it.

  29. Doc Iac October 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    g. love

    u right i remeber he pitched well for that WS,

    overall tho, horrible investment

  30. Big Bad Boss Tone Ian October 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Sorry Bo knows. It is 4, just not “mys”. It’s M M M My Kuroda.

  31. Hassey October 3rd, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    out of curioosity, anyone know the Orioles’ record since they lost Markakis?

  32. 86w183 October 3rd, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    is there even one other team in the league that you’d prefer we play tonight, or starter to face?

    ***************************************************************************

    Perhaps Seattle with Hector Noesi (2-12, 5.82) ? Minnesota with Liam Hendriks (1-8, 5.59) ?

  33. Bo knows October 3rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Sorry Bo knows. It is 4, just not “mys”. It’s M M M My Kuroda.

    ———–
    Okay, then my bad. I had it pegged to “Delilah” and Jones straining for the high notes.

  34. 86w183 October 3rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    15-7 w/out Markakis

  35. Hassey October 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    15-7? That’s impressive, and under the media radar

  36. Bo knows October 3rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Sometimes Girardi outsmarts himself. He put Teix before Cano to bring him back quicker for the PS. Luckily it didn’t matter. Talk about big balls. I do like a man backing up his conviction.

  37. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    No, but I know Baltimore’s record vs. Hellickson: 2.49ERA 1.092 WHIP, .630 OPS.

  38. yankee21 October 3rd, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    G. Love

    The point about Tex batting clean-up is debatable. I had no problem with it because he typically mashes LHP, and for the most part, Cano has been terrible against LHP all year plus Lester is nasty against LH batters just as a general rule. So I couldn’t get too much on Joe G’s case about it.

    The part that actually pissed me off the most believe it or not was Gardner and his timidity stealing bases. I just do not understand a guy with his speed not going for it. He is faster than Nunez but has half the agressiveness.

    Bottom line, glad they won last night and I believe Kuroda-san will bring it home tonight.

  39. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    I expect us to win tonight; however, IF we had to play a tiebreaker division champion game tomorrow, have they announced what time that game would be?

  40. 86w183 October 3rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Matsuzaka in four September starts:

    13 1/3, 24 H, 20 ER, 13 K, 9 W, 5 HR — 0-3, 14.26 ERA

    Can you say batting practice??

  41. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    Dice K’s last start as a Red Sock.

  42. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    The media is Not gonna give you Markakisless numbers, because they built the guy UP. Plus, they were ready to swoop in on the story of CC KO’ing the player and The Birds with 1 pitch.

  43. Bronx Jeers October 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I think that statement kinda speaks to the cultural difference more than anything….

    Kinda like how Ichiro thinks about not disrespecting his bats because a person made them…

    —————————————————–

    But does he show that same respect to his chopsticks? :wink:

  44. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    “I had no problem with it because he typically mashes LHP, and for the most part, Cano has been terrible against LHP”
    _______
    It would be less egregious if Teix had actually been playing. We know he mashes LHP, but under the circumstances, considering the layoff, it was a very curious move.

  45. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Sounds more like a Samauri Warrior than a MLB Player. So much for the “little boy” Campanella waxed about.

  46. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    ..not to forget that Cano is Cano, and you want him to have the AB’s.

  47. SportsGeek October 3rd, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    I think it’s very important to try to understand the cultural differences involved in what Kuroda said. I am pretty certain that he did not mean to imply that he would rather be doing something else, or that he hates pitching.

    I believe what he meant. as driven by Japanese culture… is that he has a responsibility, and that he must do what he has been given, and therefore, enjoyment of it just does not factor in. Meeting his responsibility is what he must do, enjoying it is not part of that responsibility.

    I think it’s great that he feels such responsibility!!

  48. yankee21 October 3rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    yankeefem, again I’m not falling on the sword in this instance, Joe G has committed far more egregious maneuvers IMO than batting Tex last night at clean-up instead of Cano. Tex had a bad game. S happens, especially to a .250 hitter.

  49. bruceb October 3rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    The key to tonight is not swinging at Dice K’s junk and getting yourself out. If they don’t swing at his junk, he’ll walk guys and we’ll blow the game open.

    Good post, as always, Mr. Love.

    I can’t see any way the Yanks lose tonight – and that worries me. We all know racing certainties get beat and complacency kills.

    Nothing has come easy to the 2012 Yankees and while I’ll be surprised if it’s as nerve-jangling as last night, I for one am taking nothing for granted.

    The weather looks like being miserable again and home runs will be hard to come by, as we witnessed with A-Rod’s moon shot being caught on the warning track by Ellsbury last night.

    Kuroda has been shaky lately but, hopefully, he will able to keep the Sox off the board long enough to keep the pressure off our hitters.

  50. Don Vito A. Bellamo October 3rd, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    AccuScore update 83%/17% Yankees! LOL :-)

  51. Hassey October 3rd, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    believe me, I won’t be swinging for Dice K’s junk

  52. yankee21 October 3rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    BOS is not going to hold anything back on the last game before heading to the beach for the off-season and Dice-K may not have much left in the way of mojo but he never fails to battle.

    That said though I think this will be Kuroda’s finest hour; Prediction: Yankees 4-2.

  53. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Nothing is guaranteed in a baseball game…..its not like Football or basketball where you line up and if the talent gap is large the best team almost always wins. Its all anout the starting pitchers and just if balls avoid fielders gloves……

    That said….the Yanks should win this game and hopefully they will!

  54. G. Love October 3rd, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    bruceb,

    It seems like this should be a no-brainer, but watching this team play this year we all know that is silly to think. The only good thing is they are pulling out wins now that earlier in the season they would let slip away easily. You have to hope all that struggling was building towards something like this.

    The Arod shot just looked like, to me, all the other hits to the OF where he doesn’t hit with the power any longer to clear the wall. Ellsbury made a great play on it though to rob him.

    It just seems like the ball isn’t going far enough off his bat anymore.

    I almost think he should change his approach and shoot for RF. He has a better chance knocking one out that way.

    His power to left-center looks sapped right now.

  55. mick October 3rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    I myself was convinced that Montero was never going to be traded and said it many times. In fact I guaranteed it a few times. :) What I didn’t understand was the interpersonal ugliness that occurred because of it. A few posters carried it to extremes,
    =======================================
    Look at it like PED’s. These instigators were such before the trade. The trade just brought out the worst in them.

  56. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Chipper hits a laser base hit off AJ in his last reg. Season AB…..I wish hed come back as the Yanks DH next year cause he can still rake

  57. mate October 3rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    I can’t wait for the Texas vs A’s game to start. I don’t care about the result much because we’ll win tonight for sure. But I want to see a real dog fight and the A’s seem to have all the momentum. Talk about it getting hot in a hurry for the antler/claw gang.

    Then later I expect the boys to put it out of reach early against Matsuzaka.

    Couldn’t have asked for a more exciting last day of the regular season!

  58. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    yankee21, I agree about the more egregious acts, and only responded because people continue to discuss it today. But FTR, I wasn’t looking at Teix batting 4th in hindsight, but foresight. I didn’t like it from the beginning: He hasn’t had enough reps to be in that position. And I am not blaming the player; Teix always plays hard. Here’s hoping the two million AB’s Teix had last night get him in a rhythm. We need Teix to be successful, going forward.

  59. bruceb October 3rd, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    G. Love

    His power to left-center looks sapped right now.

    I keep thinking A-Rod is like Samson after Delilah cut his hair off! He just can’t hit one out of the park anymore and I believe he’s only had one extra-base hit in his last 70 or so at-bats.

    I think that shot would have gone in a day-game in July but A-Rod’s power outage is one of the great concerns about this team (along with about 25 others!). Can a potential AL East division-winning team ever have been this flawed?

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 3rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    “Look at it like PED’s. These instigators were such before the trade. The trade just brought out the worst in them.”

    Actually a very good point mick.

  61. 86w183 October 3rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Replacing Ibanez/Jones w/ Chipper is not exactly what I had in mind in terms of getting younger and more athletic…. though it pretty much fits.

    Chipper is 275 from 3,000 hits and 32 from 500 HR. I might call and see if he had an interest in being a primary DH for a couple of years to pursue those goals and try to win another W.S.

    I like the idea of replacing Jones, Ibanez and Chavez with Chipper, Mesa and Dickerson… that kinda gets them younger overall.

    ***************************************************************************

    For Oakland/Texas I want a 16-inning game with 10 HBP, three brawls and Hamilton and Cespedes each spitting on an umpire

  62. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    AJ gets a standing O from the Pittsburgh crowd for a nice season…..congrats AJ….happy for him.

  63. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Happy for AJ as well.

    I guess Mason Williams is our latest prospect with “attitude problems” as per BA. SMH.

  64. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    As much as Id love to see Chipper as the Yanks DH next year there is a less than 1% chance he comes back…..hes their Jeter and I dont think he will play anywhere else.

  65. Against All Odds October 3rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Happy for AJ as well.

    I guess Mason Williams is our latest prospect with “attitude problems” as per BA. SMH.

    ———————-

    You know what that means

  66. mate October 3rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    Re: Arod’s power.

    Or … What’s Kate Hudson up to? That seemed to work. No? Anybody? Somebody hook him up with another famous blond!

  67. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Who else believed ARod won the game last night with a “walk off” HR? I thought when the ball was hit there was no way the park was going to keep that ball from going out.
    Oops……….

  68. mate October 3rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    #katehudsonseptembercallup

  69. 86w183 October 3rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Blake — I know a very good friend of Chipper’s…. I would say it’s less than .000001 percent, but he has not completely ruled it out to confidants…. if the Yanks played half their games in the South it might be a real possibility…. OR if the N.L adopts the DH in December.

  70. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    I’d love to see Texas elimated by Balt in the WC Play-In Game. Yanks vs Balt in RD 1.

  71. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    86,

    He can still hit when hes healthy….if he could DH he could probably play a couple more years.

  72. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Odds, Heathcott in that group too, it seems. Just got to straighten those boys out! ;)

  73. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    “I’d love to see Texas elimated by Balt in the WC Play-In Game. Yanks vs Balt in RD 1.”

    I never wish to play anybody….but I would like to see Texas ousted because 1) I dislike them 2) I think they are the only team thats more talented than the Yanks are.

  74. mate October 3rd, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Who would be in line to start for Baltimore in the WC game?

  75. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    I’d love to see Texas elimated by Balt in the WC Play-In Game. Yanks vs Balt in RD 1.
    ————————————————————————————————–
    Yes please.

    The Tigers scare me. I wish the WS played well enough to win that division.
    Let’s face it, the Yankees have no success vs. the Tigers. Especially when you compare the success the Yankees have had in previous years vs Twins.

  76. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    St Louis proved last season that Talent is Not what the playoffs are ALL about.

  77. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    Yea, I would prefer Detroit inna 7 game series.

  78. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Donny
    Even in a 7 game series, the Tigers still put the fear in me.

  79. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Agree on the Scare Meter. But I just believe the Yankee chances are better inna 7 gamer. The Detroit bullpen would play a greater factor over 7 games, and that Pen of theirs issa House of Horrors, Coke included.

  80. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Much rather see Detroit in a 7 game series than a 5….Verlander twice in 5 games is no fun

  81. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    mate October 3rd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    Who would be in line to start for Baltimore in the WC game?
    ————————————————————————
    Today the O’s are pitching Tillman
    Yesterday was M. Gonzalez
    Monday was Chen
    Sunday was J. Saunders
    Saturday was T. Hunter

    Your guess is as good as mine but IMO, I don’t think the O’s have that #1 starter, top notch quality starter that puts the fear into the opposing hitters.

  82. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Remember when LA baseball was the hot topic……Angels got Pujols, Trout emerged etc…..the Dodgers swung the big trade and got the new ownership…….both will be watching the postseason.

  83. CompassRosy October 3rd, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
    For those who didn’t get to see them, here are our prediction charts. We were way off on the Sux, even those of us who went to the low end. It appears that only two posters have a shot at winning the Ys prediction shot. If the Ys lose tonight, which they won’t, nobody would have guessed 94 wins.

    We didn’t make any contingency plan for what would happen if nobody guessed the right answer. I guess we could say it would go to the person who came closest – and in this case it would work – but more often than not, you’d have someone at least sandwiched on each side of a number.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xLeIr_Ec1jYpiK87Ni6DvfRiM87enmASIujq-heJpXI/edit?pli=1

    =====

    Trisha ~

    Clearly, we should go with the age old rule “closest without going over”

    :)

  84. Hassey October 3rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Standing O to close out his season? That’s great for AJ.

    I wonder if Chad Qualls got a similar sendoff when Clint Hurdle pulled him later that inning

  85. Nick in SF October 3rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    So Hunter would be the O’s pitcher tomorrow should there be a playoff? Vs. Andy for us.

  86. Against All Odds October 3rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Odds, Heathcott in that group too, it seems. Just got to straighten those boys out! ;)

    ———————————

    Yes they need to get straightened out before they end up on the Padres or something lol

  87. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    Nick in SF October 3rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    So Hunter would be the O’s pitcher tomorrow should there be a playoff? Vs. Andy for us.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    Your guess is as good as mine.
    Buck might go that route or throw a change-up

  88. yankee21 October 3rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    yankeefem; one thing about Tex is he never fails to give 100%. I wish he would learn how to hit .290 again though..

  89. mick October 3rd, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    I guess Mason Williams is our latest prospect with “attitude problems”
    ======================
    Why is it impossible that Montero could have had the same problem?

  90. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Hunter IS and HAS been in the O’s bullpen.

  91. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    yankee21 October 3rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    yankeefem; one thing about Tex is he never fails to give 100%. I wish he would learn how to hit .290 again though..
    —————————————————————————————
    Tex was pissing me off yesterday.
    I was hoping he would have gone the other way to avoid rolling over and hitting into
    a double play or two.

  92. Hassey October 3rd, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Yes, Tex gives us 100% of his .250 (%)

    I like the guy but WOW, what happened there? Not to beat a dead horse

  93. bruceb October 3rd, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Remember when LA baseball was the hot topic…

    Amazed that the Angels didn’t make the play-offs with their lineup and to a lesser extent that the Dodgers failed too after going on their late shopping spree in Boston.

    Should have listened to Tabbert. I completely underestimated the Oakland Athletics; they’re much better than their lineup card suggests and their pitching is outstanding. Saw Jarrod Parker live at the Stadium two weeks ago. Does that guy ever miss the strike zone?

  94. Hassey October 3rd, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Dewayne Wise still with a higher Yankee slugging % than all but Cano and Chavez.

    I’m glad he won’t have the chance to do well against us in the playoffs

  95. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Teix hitting RH is only batting .211 going to right field with an under .600 OPS. and rarely tries to go oppo.–something like 19 times in 148 AB’s, so I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  96. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    Teix hitting RH is only batting .211 going to right field with an under .600 OPS. and rarely tries to go oppo.–something like 19 times in 148 AB’s, so I wouldn’t hold my breath.
    ———————————————————————————————————
    I understand but I was still really upset when he hit into 2 DP’s last night.
    Just once, just once he would approach the plate with the idea to go the other way when the pitcher throws a strike on the outside half of the plate.

  97. bruceb October 3rd, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Pete Abraham

    It seems fitting that this historically bad Red Sox will end tonight with Daisuke Matsuzaka as the starting pitcher.

    Will the Red Sox want to give Bobby a decent send-off tonight or will they just want the season to end as soon as possible. I suspect (and hope for) the latter.

  98. yankeefeminista October 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    WTP, I don’t disagree, but just think it is a lost cause to expect him to have that mindset.

  99. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    I can’t accept that anymore.
    Cano had the presence of mind to bunt for a base hit recently.
    To me that says Tex can think about going the other way in order to avoid hitting into
    another routine DP

  100. mick October 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Tex 4th try to advance a runner was his worst but still would have liked Cano up in that spot altho’ his AB was worse than Tex to end the 11th.
    Batting him 5th made no sense…imagine if Tex hit into another DP to end the 11th?
    Robbie has to get that 1st possible opportunity to drive in runs as well as what could have been the last.

  101. Pops October 3rd, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    yankee21 October 3rd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    The point about Tex batting clean-up is debatable. I had no problem with it because he typically mashes LHP, and for the most part, Cano has been terrible against LHP all year plus Lester is nasty against LH batters just as a general rule. So I couldn’t get too much on Joe G’s case about it.
    ————–
    It’s already been said a few times, but I don’t really see this as debatable. Tex had swung the bat a total of 7 times in over a month, while Cano has been one of the hottest hitters in the game over the past two weeks, against both lefties and righties. Anything that either might “typically” do goes out the window, IMO. Cano should have been hitting in front of Tex. I just hope Girardi sees this now and corrects it for the post-season, but I’m not holding my breath…

  102. pat October 3rd, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    DanEvans108
    That .255 American League batting average is the lowest since the advent of the Designated Hitter in 1973 (AL hit .239 in 1972).

  103. kd October 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    really one of the most exciting days in recent baseball history. a lot up for grabs. this team could actually finish with the best record in baseball after losing its lfer for the season, 1b and 3b for a sizable portion, 3 starters on the dl

    say what you want about how they play sometimes, but they’ve got their heads on straight. and really want to win.

  104. CountryClub October 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    “(Tyler Austin) has a great approach at the plate. He’s a gamer. This is the kind of kid you want on your team. He has the ability and the desire, and that’s a great combination,” said an opposing manager in the subscriber-only scouting report. Baseball America lauds the 21-year-old’s offensive skills — “a balanced approach, terrific hand-eye coordination and good strength … makes hard contact with solid power to all fields” — while noting his improved defensive skills in right field.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....ist-76956/

  105. austinmac October 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    I wonder what Gardner’s 0-2 in stolen base attempts does for this post season chances. It seems doubtful to me he would be on the team. He would never start, so he is a pinch runner and defensive replacement only. We will soon know.

  106. Shame Spencer October 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    fem – I liked what you said earlier.. The point missed for a lot of people in many discussions rests on proactive thinking vs. hindsight thinking

  107. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Valentine just said on WEEI that feels some of the coaches weren’t loyal and undermined him. #RedSox — Pete Abraham (@PeteAbe)

  108. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    With TEX back, and Ichiro in LF, I would go with Dickerson over the rusty Gardner if it came down to those 2. The tough choice is gonna be whether to Axe the (R) Jones.

  109. Nick in SF October 3rd, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    I predict that Gardner would make any hypothetical Wild Card game roster. I’m going out on a limb on that one.

  110. blake October 3rd, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    I think weve seen the last of Jonesy in pinstripes and probably all together…

  111. Nick in SF October 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Excellent goal by Gervinho. I especially liked that it was proactive.

  112. LGY October 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Rangers announce Darvish will start first game of the playoffs. So if they end up in a wildcard game he’d only be available to pitch 1 time in the ALDS.

    Hmmm. Starting to rethink rooting for the Rangers today.

  113. mick October 3rd, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    The point missed for a lot of people in many discussions rests on proactive thinking vs. hindsight thinking
    ================
    It is this condescension that is at the root of the controversy here at LoHud.

  114. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Valentine sounds like Capt Queeg\”The Caine Mutiny”. “…….And then there was the strawberries incident”. Paranoid

  115. CountryClub October 3rd, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    Since he’s been cleared to swing the bat, Gardner will be on the roster.

  116. Shame Spencer October 3rd, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    mick October 3rd, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    The point missed for a lot of people in many discussions rests on proactive thinking vs. hindsight thinking
    ================
    It is this condescension that is at the root of the controversy here at LoHud.

    ———————

    Condescension is the in eye of the beholder ;)

  117. Bronx Jeers October 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Has Valentine never heard of ” you reap what you sow” because he planted the backstabbing seed in Spring Training.

  118. pat October 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Beane asked about using Bartolo in the ALCS when his suspension is complete. Not considering it now but not ruling it out

  119. Shame Spencer October 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    I really dunno if Valentine gets shipped out this off season…. the team he started with is basically gone. He’s not the reason they blew this season. If I’m the Sox FO, and want to keep the papers chattering without investing too much in the team, I might just keep him there to be the punching bag and take the heat off of the real deciders.

  120. LGY October 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    The Rangers are probably the Yankees biggest threat. If they end up one of the wildcards, either the Orioles can do our dirty work and get rid of them or the Yanks face them in the ALDS with Yu only able to pitch once. Assuming, of course, the Yankees win tonight.

    F it. Go A’s! Go Centipedes!

  121. CountryClub October 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    New York Yankees ?@Yankees
    #Yankees have won 3 straight, 13 of their last 17, 16 of their last 22 and 18 of their last 26. NY is a season-high 27 games over .500.

  122. mick October 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Condescension is the in eye of the beholder
    =========================
    No. It’s really quite obvious for all to see…

  123. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    R\Sox Lost OVER 90 games with Valentine at the helm. He gotta go.

  124. mick October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Since he’s been cleared to swing the bat, Gardner will be on the roster.
    ============================
    Getting cleared and getting hits are 2 different things.
    I’m starting to think that Dickerson might be a more well rounded alternative.

  125. austinmac October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Donnybrook,

    Fair and funny comparison to Capt. Queeg.

  126. jacksquat October 3rd, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    LGY October 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    Rangers announce Darvish will start first game of the playoffs. So if they end up in a wildcard game he’d only be available to pitch 1 time in the ALDS.

    Hmmm. Starting to rethink rooting for the Rangers today.

    I believe the A’s winning is the only way we could end up playing Detroit in the ALDS, so I’m rooting for the Rangers.

  127. Warning Track Power October 3rd, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    mick October 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    Since he’s been cleared to swing the bat, Gardner will be on the roster.
    ============================
    Getting cleared and getting hits are 2 different things.
    I’m starting to think that Dickerson might be a more well rounded alternative.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    I have a solution
    Dickerson on the roster for the ALDS
    Gardner on the roster for the ACLS & WS

  128. pat October 3rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    jeter 6 ichiro 7 arod 5 cano 4 swisher 9 Teixeira 3 granderson 8 ibanez dh Martin 2

  129. mick October 3rd, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    I find it more interesting in who they might leave off as a pitcher if they take 11.
    Lowe and Phelps are in.
    JoLoRoSo are in.
    That leaves Eppley or Rapada. Looks like Eppley to me but he could be valuable.
    They could take 12 and leave off a player…

  130. Nick in SF October 3rd, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Rangers have the talent on paper — especially their offense — but the A’s are the much hotter team right now.

    I can’t really separate my desire to see the Yanks play the A’s in Oakland vs. what’s better for the Yanks in general, but I’m highly confident that the Yanks will TCB tonight and avoid the Tigers in the first round.

  131. DONNYBROOK October 3rd, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Boy, that Oakland crowd is LOUD.

  132. mick October 3rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    I believe the A’s winning is the only way we could end up playing Detroit in the ALDS, so I’m rooting for the Rangers.
    =========
    off the top of my head this sounds wrong, are you saying we don’t want best record?

  133. umbrelladoc October 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    mick,

    If the Yankees lose tonight but advance as the division champion either through Baltimore losing tonight or the playoff game, and Oakland wins, the Yankees are the two seed because Oakland has the tiebreaker over the Yankees.


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