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Pettitte: “This is what I was hoping to have the opportunity to do”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 08, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Andy Pettitte built his legacy in the postseason, he came out of retirement because he wanted to pitch in the postseason again, and tonight he’ll try to become the first pitcher to ever reach 20 postseason wins. So, it’s worth asking, will success or failure this postseason determine whether Pettitte comes back next year?

“I don’t think so,” Pettitte said. “I’m not real sure. If we were able to go all the way, we’d have another month or so left, but I don’t think (that will be the determining factor). I just think it’s going to be a situation where you, again, just need to go home, see if I want to do this again. It’s great when the family is here, in the summer and my family is here and they’re running around, but it’s not great whenever they’re in Texas and I’m in New York, and it’s a long way back there. You know, it’s just going to be really a matter of if I feel like it’s something that I want to do again.

“I know one thing: I know the competition and the desire to compete is still there, and I don’t feel like I kind of got that itch out from the 70 innings or so that I threw this year. I was expecting to do a little bit more work than that. But we’ll see. We’ll see how this goes, and then I’ll factor everything probably in.”

This season wasn’t the return Pettitte was expecting. Even when that comebacker hit his ankle, Pettitte thought he’d miss four to six weeks. He wound up missing nearly three months, and even then, he had to rush back to get ready for the playoffs.

But here he is, pitching at the time of year that made him what he is. The first manager to ever put Pettitte in a postseason game was, conveniently, current Orioles manager Buck Showalter.

“This time of year, talent plays,” Showalter said. “He is talented, and that’s why he’s still capable of giving his team a chance to win is that he’s a talented young man. I felt at that time that Andy hadn’t had that much experience under his belt, but that wasn’t some astute evaluation to (not) start him. Those things are easy. I’m sure the Yankee fans and baseball in general feel fortunate to have been around to see Andy pass their way, because he’s a good father, good husband, good teammate, and a guy that it’s important to him to be consistent and be there. So that’ll be tough (tonight).”

The Orioles haven’t been to the postseason since 1997. Pettitte has 17 postseason wins since then. Is it an advantage?

“It depends how guys handle themselves out there, which is an unknown,” Pettitte said. “It’s all about being able to control yourself in the heat of the moment.”

The heat of the moment never bothered Pettitte. Even his low point in Game 1 of the 1996 World Series was followed by his brilliant start in Game 5, which Pettitte calls that his best postseason memory. At 40 years old, Pettitte is still a source of stability. The Yankees expect him to be as good as ever, and he’s given them no reason to think otherwise. What happens this winter is anyone’s guess — my guess: he’ll come back — but tonight, it’s just Pettitte doing what he does best.

“This is what I was hoping to have the opportunity to do,” he said.

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217 Responses to “Pettitte: “This is what I was hoping to have the opportunity to do””

  1. The Return of Stoneburner October 8th, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    RadioKev October 8th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    The Return of Stoneburner October 8th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    Do you trade Granderson and Nova for Derek Holland and David Murphy?

    Do you go into next season with Swisher RF, Gardner CF, Murphy LF?
    ————-

    Can’t we save the insane roster suggestions until the off season?

    ******

    No.

  2. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    John Smoltz in the broadcast booth for TBS is a huge plus.
    The guy knows about pitching and is not afraid to explain specific scenarios before
    or as they happen.
    The other 2 morons in the booth can not keep up with Smoltz and his knowledge
    of the game.

  3. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    ” Girardi did a hit and run with Ibanez instead of Nunez; that is simply a mistake! ”

    Jeter has two strikes right? I think it was more just putting the runner in motion with two strikes than it was a true H and R…..again I think after he got to 3B he saw the opportunity for speed to affect the ability to score enough to make the move…..I think too be probably wanted to save Nunez as he’s their only decent RH pinch hit option

  4. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    It depends on whether or not Holland would agree to never again grow a mustache.

  5. m October 8th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    I hope they win it all this year because some toug decisions need to be made.

    Russell Martin back, trade Grandy. Gardner in CF until you find a bigger bat to replace him. Ichiro back. Jones, he gone. Ibanez back.

    If Jeter could repeat his season, trade Nunez. Unless he’s your DH along with Ibanez.

    Swisher too expensive for us now. Will miss him.

    CC, Hiroki, Pettitte, Hughes, Pineda/Nova in the rotation. Robertson/Rivera at the back of the bullpen.

    As for Andy. Who doesn’t love Andy? Let’s write another chapter in the history books!

  6. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Martin was amazing last night behind the plate and with the bat.
    The guy is definitely a different hitter these days.
    Forget about the long, long slump during the season. He’s a totally different hitter now
    and capable of getting the “big hit” when needed.

  7. m October 8th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    No to Holland. No to Hamilton.

  8. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Didn’t Girardi call a hit and run with Arod/Cano as well?
    ******

    Not sure what that has to do with anything?

  9. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    One final note as I go – us baseball fans are smarter than the average bear ( Yogi, no offense )

  10. m October 8th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Biggest challenge will be replacing the power of Swisher and Granderson…and Alex… :(

  11. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Jeter had 1 strike ….my mistake

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 8th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    You know, I started a message totally defending Ripken, and the more I thought about it, the more I kind of cringed.

    I admit I didn’t hear Ripken say it – I wasn’t listening that hard to the ongoing commentary to tell you the truth – and I don’t know how it would have hit my ear at the time. But I looked it up online, and this was the definition in one of the baseball glossaries:

    chinker
    A blooper; a dying quail; a bleeder.

    So what struck me is that the word isn’t so uniquely descriptive as to keep someone from finding another baseball term that describes the same thing. That was kind of the turnaround for me.

    Now, when I was writing my defense of Ripken, I took the time to point out that before I quit my job, my entire work experience was in the field of discrimination in the workplace. I dealt totally with Titles VII and IX, so I was beyond immersed in the stuff. So I was ready to point out that if it didn’t strike me as harmful – and I’m probably overly sensitive to the stuff – it probably wasn’t.

    However, in the name of fairness though, I think I should still point out the same thing about my work experience by way of saying maybe I am being overly sensitive to it because of my work experience.

    I do think we’ve gotten so PC in our society that people are unjustly accused of things and people do see spys behind bushes where there are none. But I’m also with Shame in saying that people on the air have to be so much more so PC only because people are so sensitive to these things.

    So I guess I’m saying that I can see why some people were upset by the use of the word when Ichiro was at bat.

    (But I bet those same people would be upset at the use of the word any time, since it’s got “chink” in it.)

    I also defend those people who feel there was nothing wrong with it because they truly didn’t feel any racist connotation. And I have to admit I actually was using YS Guy’s post as my jumping off point when I started my first post! (Chinker references Chinese, while Ichiro is Japanese!)

    Cripes, I don’t even know if I’ve made any sense here!

  13. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Didn’t Girardi call a hit and run with Arod/Cano as well?
    ******

    Not sure what that has to do with anything?

    ————-

    Nothing really, that was just the one that I liked.

  14. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    I think the Yankees need to change the 70′s “no facial hair except mustache” rule to “no facial hair”, or just allow goatees. Most and probably all of these guys look bad with just a mustache.

  15. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    ” Girardi did a hit and run with Ibanez instead of Nunez; that is simply a mistake! ”

    Jeter has two strikes right? I think it was more just putting the runner in motion with two strikes than it was a true H and R…..again I think after he got to 3B he saw the opportunity for speed to affect the ability to score enough to make the move…..I think too be probably wanted to save Nunez as he’s their only decent RH pinch hit option
    *******

    Blake, you are not helping yourself here. First, the count was 1-1, not that this mattered very much, but the point is that you are risking stealing a base with Ibanez instead of Nunez and it is the 9th inning, so the odds of Ibanez getting up again are not that good, and even lessened if you score another run and having Nunez pinch running clearly gives you a better chance. You guys are having trouble with a no brainer decision. try this.

    What if Jeter swings and misses or has to take a ball? What if Jeter hits a double and Nunez would score and Ibanez does not, what if Jeter hits a ball hard to SS and Nunez speed as he was running gets him to beat out the throw…and on and on. There is really no reason not to pinch run for Nunez in that spot other than the possibility the game gets tied up again and the Ibanez spot comes up again AND a righty is on the mound. Now compare it to all the other opportunities lost. This is the CLASSIC no brainer pinch run move and when it is even less valuable, Girardi still did it when he was on 3rd. This should tell you why it should have been done in the first place (GIRARDI PINCH RAN WHEN IT WAS EVEN LESS VALUABLE TO DO SO)

  16. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    good thing we didn;t have Montero :-)

  17. Patrick October 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Are we seriously talking about one word Ripken used which may or may not be offensive the day after an awesome Yankee victory? Blog is going down the tubes…

  18. Hassey October 8th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    If Jones would have doubled off CC instead of K’ing, would we be dealing here with an entire page of Monday Morning QBing and fire Giro petitions?

    Or should we be finally complimenting the guy on the decision?

  19. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Good thing Ichiro didn’t hit the HR otherwise the headlines would have been “A Chink in the Armor of Baltimore”

  20. m October 8th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    What the hell happened?

    If chinker is an old school baseball term, then I think we can assume it was used because the ball was hit hard enough to cause some damage.

    Absolutely nothing to do with Jeremy Lin. That case was a broadcaster trying to be too cute.

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 8th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    It’s looking like those of us who made sweep predictions are still in the running to be correct!

    :)

    And Happy (even though it really isn’t) Columbus Day! Thank God for the Italians. We might not have a country today if it weren’t for them!

    :D

  22. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Hassey, fair question. I write my blog and am texting and speaking to people before things happen. I never even though of taking CC out there. My only question was whether to use him in the 9th inning. Girardi played it like I would have and my reason was that he was throwing strikes and that is what I wanted. 120 was also the pitch count I felt was the number so it only would have worked out better if CC would have completed the game

  23. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Blake, you are not helping yourself here. First, the count was 1-1, not that this mattered very much, but the point is that you are risking stealing a base with Ibanez instead of Nunez and it is the 9th inning, so the odds of Ibanez getting up again are not that good, and even lessened if you score another run and having Nunez pinch running clearly gives you a better chance. You guys are having trouble with a no brainer decision. try this.”

    I said that it was 1-1 a second ago…..and I still think it was an acceptable decision given the circumstances and place in the game…..you’re picking nits on something that actually worked for what reason?

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Hey I didn’t bring it up. I just added to what I saw as discussion today when I was reading through the posts.

    My post actually said I can see it both ways. No biggie.

  25. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    ANYBODY that objects to the word “Chinker” aint a baseball person. Been in the Baseball Lexicon for Over 50 yrs I know of. The political correctness Malarkey belongs atta Obama Rally, NOT HERE.

  26. m October 8th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Oops didn’t read trisha’s definition. I thought it was used to describe tex’s single off the score board. If it’s a bloop, then “dinker” would make more sense. But nothing much in baseball makes sense any way. Crazy sport, crazy fans!

  27. Patrick October 8th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    My post actually said I can see it both ways. No biggie.

    I’m not blaming you trisha.. I just think it’s insane that we have more posts this morning about the word “chinker” than anything else. It’s pretty ridiculous ..

    Whatever.

  28. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Lets go ahead and win today and bury them…..I’d like to see a sweep then have the As win the next two and force Verlander to pitch a game 5

  29. Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Re post

    Sorry guys, you are simply wrong about this

    ——————-
    And maybe not.

    You’ve got Girardi and Pena standing over there, both known for top end game calling, which involves attention to details as the game goes along. Whatever they were doing, I’ll guarantee they weren’t asleep. I really dislike blanket statements as in “asleep, binders, etc”. These are very bright, knowledgeable people so my question is “Why did they choose that option”?

  30. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    I agree with GM, should have been Nunez. Even if that spot came up again against a rhp (low odds), you still have Chavez (and Gardner).

  31. Patrick October 8th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Lets go ahead and win today and bury them…..I’d like to see a sweep then have the As win the next two and force Verlander to pitch a game 5

    That would be nice.

    I think the Yankees have a better team this year simply due to the rotation. Look at last season, we had Sabathia, Nova, Garcia and Burnett. Now Sabathia, Pettitte, Kuroda, Hughes .. that’s a huge improvement and the reason why I think the Yanks will crush Baltimore and match up favorably with the Tigers.

  32. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    My guess is Girardi wanted to keep Ibanez’s bat in the lineup as long as possible. Ibanez has been Clutch for the last 2 weeks, and the game was Still in question. Once Ibanez reached 3B, Girardi had No choice but to pinch run for him. I find Nothing wrong with what Girardi did here.

  33. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    @AndrewMarchand: O’Connor: Martin to Yankees: I’m your man http://t.co/odTOxRaq

  34. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    I said that it was 1-1 a second ago…..and I still think it was an acceptable decision given the circumstances and place in the game…..you’re picking nits on something that actually worked for what reason?
    *****

    The count didn’t matter but you are missing the point…it is not the “nits” it could have been the difference in wining and losing. It is like saying we shouldn’t be critical of trying to steal 3rd in the 1st inning with nobody out just because he makes it or doesn’t. That could have been the difference in the game also. Just because the outcome was what we wanted does not change a bad decision!

  35. Ys Guy October 8th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    i always hated ripken and his orioles and his oriole-ness.

    but part of that whole ripken-ness is that he’d never slight anyone because of their ethnicity and that he’d never say anything like that to demean a player.

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 8th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Patrick – I hear you.

    In both his defense and to point a finger – ha ha – I do think that jerkface is a lot more sensitive to words and terms than most others here and so feels the need to point them out and then stay with them maybe beyond what they need to be stayed with. Of course, it always starts a controversy because there are posters who vehemently disagree.

    I stayed totally out of the last one (also having to do with Ichiro, don’t remember the controversy). That one lasted for quite a long time too.

  37. JobaTipsHisCap October 8th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    so, the bottom line is, can I use N word to refer ‘a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons’? and, will anyone feel offended if I do so?

    lol, funny.

  38. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    My guess is Girardi wanted to keep Ibanez’s bat in the lineup as long as possible. Ibanez has been Clutch for the last 2 weeks, and the game was Still in question. Once Ibanez reached 3B, Girardi had No choice but to pinch run for him. I find Nothing wrong with what Girardi did here.
    *****

    Oh boy. you guys are hopeless. Why no choice at 3rd where pinch running is LESS likely to be important as when he is on 1st and you are sending him? I am done, this is absurd that I even have to explain this.

  39. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    “I agree with GM, should have been Nunez. Even if that spot came up again against a rhp (low odds), you still have Chavez (and Gardner).”

    What if the game goes extras and you want a RH bat to pinch hit…..Nunez is already burned and Ibanez is out of the game…..Joe probably didn’t see burning 2 players at that time with a 1 run lead.

  40. 86w183 October 8th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    ” I’d like to see a sweep then have the As win the next two and force Verlander to pitch a game 5.”

    ***************************************************************************

    Amen brother. That’s a perfect scenario… although winning in four so Hughes gets a start and a win would be perfectly acceptable.

    I discussed the pinch running decision with a friend this morning and it’s not hard to argue either way. I prefer to hold off on moves til they’re likely to pay off when I have the lead. Thus waiting til Ibanez was in scoring position makes sense to me. I hate to see a pinch runner standing at first base at the end of an inning.

    It’s certainly not cut and dried either way.

  41. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    - GENIUS MAKER -
    How often does a runner score from 3rd with 0 Outs vs scoring from 1B??? That is the difference. Your are Right about 1 thing. YOU ARE DONE.

  42. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    The hit n run play with Jeter at the plate was so impressive. How Jeter managed to stay inside that pitch and poke the ball to where the 2nd baseman normally stands was a sight to see.
    Only hoping that Jeter has many more opportunities like that during the post-season.

  43. Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Oh boy. you guys are hopeless. Why no choice at 3rd where pinch running is LESS likely to be important as when he is on 1st and you are sending him? I am done, this is absurd that I even have to explain this.

    ———
    Let’s not get into patronizing. You’re right – end of discussion.

  44. 86w183 October 8th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Jeter could hit a ground ball to the right side on a pitch that was behind him and in the dirt. I would hit and run with him all the time.

    Defensively I’d have my shortstop cover second, not the second baseman.

  45. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    “Why no choice at 3rd where pinch running is LESS likely to be important as when he is on 1st and you are sending him? I am done, this is absurd that I even have to explain this”

    Because on 3b there could be a sac fly….or a wild pitch….or a dribbler like what happened…..you’re entitled to your opinion…..pinch running Nunez there would have been acceptable…..but choosing not to wasn’t some ridiculous error like you’re making it out and there ARE reasons why he chose not to…..you don’t think Girardi thought about it if you and a million other fans did?

  46. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    If I can appreciably increase my odds of going from 1 up in the 9th to 2 up, I do what it takes to accomplish this. The odds of scoring a guy from 1B with O Outs, pale when compared to scoring a guy from 3B with O outs.

  47. Hassey October 8th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    You know who impresses me? JJ Hardy. Hard to think of him as a threat in a lineup of Jones, Reynolds, Weiters…but Hardy makes every play and can hit the ball with authority. Not sure why you’d pitch him outside – seems to me with his stance that’s where he wants it. But miss inside and he jerk’s the ball out of that little league left field.

    Imagine where this team would be with a healthy Roberts and Markakis

  48. Doc Iac October 8th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  49. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Ibanez, and his Clutch hits of late, factored into Giradi’s decision. You gotta throw that into the equation.

  50. Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Because on 3b there could be a sac fly….or a wild pitch….or a dribbler like what happened…..you’re entitled to your opinion…..pinch running Nunez there would have been acceptable…..but choosing not to wasn’t some ridiculous error like you’re making it out and there ARE reasons why he chose not to…..you don’t think Girardi thought about it if you and a million other fans did?

    ———-
    Thank you blake, well put.

    Better you, because I’m starting to feel my risibility rising.

  51. blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    I discussed the pinch running decision with a friend this morning and it’s not hard to argue either way. I prefer to hold off on moves til they’re likely to pay off when I have the lead. Thus waiting til Ibanez was in scoring position makes sense to me. I hate to see a pinch runner standing at first base at the end of an inning.

    It’s certainly not cut and dried either way.”

    This

  52. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Roberts has been MIA for over a season. Sure, he came back for a cup-of-coffe, but we really do Not know what that player’s impact would be after such a long layoff. Markakis is good, but the O’s have compensated for his loss. I believe inna 5 game series, Tampa would be a tougher nut to crack.

  53. Ys Guy October 8th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    how many managers in the american league know derek jeter and his tendencies better than buck showalter? he was his first manager. and he’s managed about a thousand american league games, (something like 60 of them against the yankees) during jeter’s career. buck’s run thorough this stuff a thousand times in his head.

    sometimes you win and sometimes you play jeter…

  54. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 8th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Duh Innings had give his wishlist on the playoff scenario and gave reasons for each part of it. I know that when I read it I totally agreed with it. I predicted the A’s to win (looking like a bad pick at this point!) but agree with Duh Innings that retribution for last year’s abomination, both on the part of MLB and the weather and the umpire in the re-played CC-Verlander duel, calls for Yankee vindication against Detroit.

    This article says it nicely for me, though you might not want to relive the nightmare.

    http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-dumb-luck

    Great day all!

    :)

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    should have read “Duh innings had given…”

  56. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    86w183 October 8th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
    Jeter could hit a ground ball to the right side on a pitch that was behind him and in the dirt. I would hit and run with him all the time.

    Defensively I’d have my shortstop cover second, not the second baseman.
    ——————————————————————————————————–
    I forgot about the bunt Jeter successfully attempted with 2 strikes
    1)The pitcher did Jeter a favor by throwing a fastball there. Why he threw that pitch, right down the middle was a gift.
    2)Jeter still had to lay the bunt down in fair territory and he did just that.
    SO IMPRESSIVE!!!

  57. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Jeter hits a lot of balls to right field….but who is to say if he saw Hardy break instead of Andino he wouldn’t have pulled his hands in and hit a GB to SS…..this is DJ were talking about….HoFer….insane bat control

  58. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 8th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Hey JobaTips – nice call last night when you suggested people wait ’til the game was over to evaluate CC’s performance. And Lord, by the end of the game did CC make the complainers look pure silly! You might have to do the same thing tonight if Andy has a hiccup!

    :)

  59. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Ys Guy October 8th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    i always hated ripken and his orioles and his oriole-ness.

    but part of that whole ripken-ness is that he’d never slight anyone because of their ethnicity and that he’d never say anything like that to demean a player.
    ————

    Sigh… no one said he was. People really can’t seem to separate this.

    Just to give credence to how important people’s words are… the defense of Ripken in the last thread promoted someone to post the definition of a racial slur we can all agree is a racial slur (I suppose). This is why words matter. I’m not holding other posters accountable for one posters ignorance.. but I’m just saying, this is why words matter.

  60. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Doc Iac October 8th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

    ————

    Why is this video blocked in my country?!!

  61. Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    2)Jeter still had to lay the bunt down in fair territory and he did just that.
    SO IMPRESSIVE!!!
    ———-
    Jeter outsmarted the oppo. Had confidence that they would try to overpower him with a FB.

  62. hardwired7 October 8th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    “No to Hamilton.”

    The pragmatic side agrees w/this, but then you think about Cano and Hamilton in the same lineup…what a nightmare for opposing teams.

    It likely won’t happen because of the budget constraints (among other factors), but damn an already dangerous lineup would become devastating.

  63. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Oh boy. you guys are hopeless. Why no choice at 3rd where pinch running is LESS likely to be important as when he is on 1st and you are sending him? I am done, this is absurd that I even have to explain this.

    ———
    Let’s not get into patronizing. You’re right – end of discussion.

    ————

    Bo – Sneaky good.

  64. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    So does Alex hit 3rd tonight? I think you keep him in the middle vs the lefty but man he looks out of sync right now

  65. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    I think the decision on Hamilton should depend on how far his price drops if it does drop

  66. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    hardwired7 October 8th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    “No to Hamilton.”

    The pragmatic side agrees w/this, but then you think about Cano and Hamilton in the same lineup…what a nightmare for opposing teams.

    —————————–

    Personally, I don’t think we should let pragmatism get in our way here….

  67. 86w183 October 8th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Off for a while…. happy debating, folks

  68. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    @TGfireandice

    RT @RichSandomir WFAN will move to FM 101.9 in mid-Nov.

    —————-

    ???

  69. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    “I agree with GM, should have been Nunez. Even if that spot came up again against a rhp (low odds), you still have Chavez (and Gardner).”

    What if the game goes extras and you want a RH bat to pinch hit…..Nunez is already burned and Ibanez is out of the game…..Joe probably didn’t see burning 2 players at that time with a 1 run lead.

    Pinch hit for who? Ichiro? Granderson? Not happening.

    I’m not freaking out about it, but it seemed like a pretty fundamental thing to do.

  70. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    While discussing decisions, why the hell wasn’t Ford IMMEDIATELY called out in the 5th on that swinging bunt of his. He ran on the infield grass ALL the way down the 1B line. He was nowhere near the running lane. Tex had to make a great catch on the throw in order to get the out call. The defense should Not have to hit the runner with a throw in order to get the interferrence\out call. The Ford infraction was blatant, obvious, and Girardi shoulda come outta the dugout and discussed it with the Umps for future reference. The O’s did this 1 time, they will do it again.

  71. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    @sportswatch

    For now WFAN will be simulcast on 660AM and 101.9FM but might CBS eventually turn 660AM into an outlet for its national sports network? Hmm

  72. Doc Iac October 8th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    While discussing decisions, why the hell wasn’t Ford IMMEDIATELY called out in the 5th on that swinging bunt of his. He ran on the infield grass ALL the way down the 1B line. He was nowhere near the running lane. Tex had to make a great catch on the throw in order to get the out call. The defense should Not have to hit the runner with a throw in order to get the interferrence\out call. The Ford infraction was blatant, obvious, and Girardi shoulda come outta the dugout and discussed it with the Umps for future reference. The O’s did this 1 time, they will do it again.

    u see that all the time, should call it but never do, kinda like the force at 2nd when the fielder is off the bag before he catches the ball, esp on dp

  73. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Arod seems to still get a lot of respect at the plate, despite his decrease in perfromance. He usually has good at bats as far as the approach goes, he just is not putting the bat on the ball. I’d probably still have him at least 5th vs lhp if Swisher is going to hit 2nd (probably).

  74. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Pinch hit for who? Ichiro? Granderson? Not happening.”

    How about Chavez….who would have took over for Ibanez as Dh and who can’t hit lefties at all…..

    If you pinch run Nunez there and don’t score….then the Os tie it in the bottom of the inning then you have Ibanez out of the game and your best RH pinch hitter already burned .

    I get the reasoning for doing it….but there are reasons not to also…..I wouldn’t have done a straight steal there even with Nunez with Wieters catching

  75. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Arod seems to still get a lot of respect at the plate, despite his decrease in perfromance. He usually has good at bats as far as the approach goes, he just is not putting the bat on the ball. I’d probably still have him at least 5th vs lhp if Swisher is going to hit 2nd (probably).”

    He looks like he’s seeing the ball well to me…..his takes are good….and he’s on everything….. He’s just late…..he needs to make the adjustment and get started sooner

  76. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    So does Alex hit 3rd tonight? I think you keep him in the middle vs the lefty but man he looks out of sync right now
    —————————————————————————————————————-
    Tex has the right idea.
    Last night the team picked up ARod, but ARod can certainly pick-up the team tonight.

  77. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    That “not in the running lane” call has already been made 1 time in the current Playoffs. I remember when the Yanks got burned vs the Angels during the Playoffs on this call, and woulda got burned last night if TEX had Not made the play. Girardi needs to address something like this when it occurs. You can bet the O’s will do it again if the situation warrants.

  78. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    blake, Nunez remains at DH even if the game is tied. If it is a lhp later, then Nunez is already there, if it’s a rhp, switch to Chavez. With Ibanez still in there, Chavez would never hit because Joe would not pinch hit Chavez for Ibanez, he already made that decision for the starting lineup.

  79. Patrick October 8th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    So does Alex hit 3rd tonight? I think you keep him in the middle vs the lefty but man he looks out of sync right now

    I say yes because despite his down year he still crushes left handed pitching. Seriously check out his splits:

    vs RHP: .256/.326/.391
    vs LHP: .308/.410/.514

    Definitely hit him third vs lefties. I would probably move him down vs RHP though.

  80. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    jacksquat says:
    October 8, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    blake, Nunez remains at DH even if the game is tied. If it is a lhp later, then Nunez is already there, if it’s a rhp, switch to Chavez. With Ibanez still in there, Chavez would never hit because Joe would not pinch hit Chavez for Ibanez, he already made that decision for the starting lineup.”

    Lot of scenarios….I just think Joe chose to wait there….and I didn’t see it as a huge deal.

  81. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    A-Rod is currently getting More respect from the HP Ump than Chuckers. Once the Umps do likewise, (No walks), he will sink even further at the plate. The guy needs to hit further down in the order.

  82. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Alex isn’t having bad ABs….. He’s just late….if he can make the adjustment then he could get going I think

  83. Patrick October 8th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Tonight I’d go with this lineup:

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Cano 2B
    Teixeira 1B
    Nunez DH
    Granderson CF
    Martin C
    Ichiro LF

  84. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    I like that Patrick….I bet it’s close to that with Nunez and Martin flipped

  85. Patrick October 8th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    I like that Patrick….I bet it’s close to that with Nunez and Martin flipped

    Could go either way regarding Martin / Nunez. I guess coming off the big HR last night you put Martin up further. I think Nunez is a better hitter so personally I’d rather have him hitting 6th instead of Martin.

  86. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    The Jeet\Ichiro 1-2 punch at the top of the order should remain whether facing a Lefty or Righty. Dropping Swish or Grandy outta the 2 Hole and further down in the order, strengthens the bottom of the order.

  87. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    sep/oct vs lhp:

    Ichiro Suzuki 31 18 4 0 2 7 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 .581 .581 .903
    Eduardo Nunez 19 8 2 0 0 2 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 .421 .450 .526
    Alex Rodriguez 34 14 2 0 1 7 6 1 1 8 0 1 2 0 .412 .500 .559
    Derek Jeter 43 14 2 0 0 5 3 0 0 5 1 0 0 0 .326 .370 .372
    Nick Swisher 44 13 2 0 0 4 8 0 1 6 1 0 0 0 .295 .415 .341
    Robinson Cano 45 13 1 0 1 8 9 0 1 8 0 1 3 0 .289 .411 .378
    Russell Martin 33 8 2 0 4 10 7 0 0 9 0 0 1 0 .242 .375 .667
    Curtis Granderson 42 7 1 1 1 6 5 0 0 19 0 1 0 0 .167 .250 .310

  88. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Outside of crazy stuff like Jeter 9th or Cano leadoff, I don’t think Joe can really go wrong with today’s lineup vs the lhp as long as Granderson is in the bottom 3.

  89. UnKnown October 8th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Game thread last night was pretty cool. Awesome intensity and the way the posts were coming fast and furious it did not allow for certain people to hijack the thread.

    I am sure it burned those individuals that it couldn’t be all about them, but I really enjoyed it.

    Everyone’s different takes throughout the game some emotional and some well thought out were all welcomed by me. Looking forward to the same tonight.

  90. Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Bo – Sneaky good.

    ———
    Okay, you broke me up. Shot down with my own ammunition.

  91. Hassey October 8th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Think Chris Davis will catch the ball with his eyes open tonight, or will he just go with the Mr. Magoo strategy until it no longer works?

  92. Rocket22 October 8th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    I think it’s a shame that folks are getting all over Ripken for what seemed like an unintentional – if highly irresponsible – slip of the tongue last night, but everyone seems to forget that John Smoltz has said some outright bigoted things to interviewers before. This guy gets a free pass for some reason. It makes me crazy that he’s so constnatly fawned over that nobody seems to hold it against him that he once compared same-sex marriage to bestiality.

  93. UnKnown October 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Think Chris Davis will catch the ball with his eyes open tonight, or will he just go with the Mr. Magoo strategy until it no longer works?

    ————

    Watching more and more O’s games down the stretch I have actually seen Davis go in that corner and catch that same ball a few times now. The first time I saw it I was like WTH, but as soon as the ball disappeared off of Grandy’s bat last night in that same spot I knew the next camera shot was going to be Davis coming out of there looking like he stole something.

    Weird quirk of that particularly field and obviously an easier play for Davis then Swisher because he has had the opportunity to make that play before.

  94. BIG AL October 8th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    trisha -

    It was not Columbus!

    http://voices.yahoo.com/who-di.....38011.html

  95. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    I’ll guess Joe will go with this lineup:
    (note not necessarily how I would do it)

    Jeter
    Swisher
    Arod
    Cano
    Teixeira
    Martin
    Granderson
    Nunez
    Ichiro

  96. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    UnKnown, did you see the replay? Davis turned his head away (and probably had his eyes closed) before the ball hit his glove.

  97. Hassey October 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Unknown – I’d imagine that in the right circumstances, catching a foul ball in that maintenance triangle blind spot gives Davis a split second advantage over a runner who loses sight of the ball and has to momentarily hesitate before tagging.

  98. BIG AL October 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    It’s a fact A-Rod and Granderson need to be lower in the order.

    Love A-Rod, but, for too long his bat has not been worthy of a top 5 spot in the order.

    Granderson right now should switched to #9.

  99. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    That play-by-play guy with Ripken and Smoltz belongs back on his regular Pre\Post game gig. He is just Not up-to-speed with Ripken and Smoltz. I can imagine the snickering at the ackward outta-step observations he continually makes.

  100. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    On another note… who took part in the chat last night?? I saw Rick was getting swarmed by some trouble makers in the two hours before the game started lol…

  101. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Yes Ernie is terrible

  102. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    MLB needs to reposition the 1B Ump and the Ump down the line in RF. Those guys were standing so close to each other, it looked like one may have been “goosing” the other. NOT necessary to have them stand so close together before the ball is delivered. Same may be true for the 3B\LF Line Ump. I did not catch a camera angle to judge.

  103. UnKnown October 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    jacksquat – Yeah it was really lucky. Usually he sees that ball all the way into his glove and the play doesn’t look that lucky. Last night it looked like there was no way he should’ve caught that ball because he completely last sight of it, which usually doesn’t happen that way to him in that corner.

  104. El Duque October 8th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    I’ll guess Joe will go with this lineup:
    (note not necessarily how I would do it)

    Jeter
    Swisher
    Arod
    Cano
    Teixeira
    Martin
    Granderson
    Nunez
    Ichiro
    ______________________
    I think Joe will switch nunez and ichiro

  105. blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    I don’t think I ever noticed that little cubbie out in RF at Camden that Davis caught that ball in…..weird that that’s even there

  106. Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    And now for something completely different. I get a kick out of the coffee fusseys. I eliminate all extraneous movement in the morning and the need for more than one cup remains constant. Having said that, I yield to the imperative of fresh ground so it’s the Barratza and Moccamaster for me.

    http://www.ineedcoffee.com/03/chemex/

  107. BIG AL October 8th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    It’s a shame the A’s lose because the CF can’t catch a pop up, in and out of his glove twice. I wanted that series to go the full 5 games. Now it looks as if Detroit will be well rested awaiting the Yankees.

  108. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    blake October 8th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    “I agree with GM, should have been Nunez. Even if that spot came up again against a rhp (low odds), you still have Chavez (and Gardner).”

    What if the game goes extras and you want a RH bat to pinch hit…..Nunez is already burned and Ibanez is out of the game…..Joe probably didn’t see burning 2 players at that time with a 1 run lead.
    ********

    Oh boy, so you are worried about a pinch hitter just in case Baltimore ties it up insteda of tryingto add to your lead…ad for whom would you MAYBE need some pinch hitter? Nunez will be the DH and who will you pinch hit for on the team? the only guy is martin against a rigthty and you already have lefties on the bench in Chavez and Gardner. Stop making excuses; they screwed it up and then realized it and put Nunez in when he was on 3rd!

  109. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    - GENIUS -
    Thought your were “done” Let it go. Have a cup of Rot Gut with Bo.

  110. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    When I played Little League in the early 50s, I got a hit that went through the chinks. Coach told me later that “A chinker looks just like a line drive in the score card.” I don’t think there were any Chinese people within a hundred miles. No question, the expression rises from the chinks in a wall, or a defense, not as a racial slur. Sorry if I reopened this, but there has been so much nonsense spouted, I couldn’t help myself.

  111. blake October 8th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Oh boy, so you are worried about a pinch hitter just in case Baltimore ties it up insteda of tryingto add to your lead”

    Oh boy….you seem to be the one so worried about this….do you really think Girardi just forgot Ibanez was on 1B? It wasn’t as cut and dry as your making it…..and it worked!

  112. Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Thought your were “done” Let it go. Have a cup of Rot Gut with Bo.
    ————

    Wow, now he’s waxing poetic. Who knew?

  113. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    blake October 8th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Pinch hit for who? Ichiro? Granderson? Not happening.”

    How about Chavez….who would have took over for Ibanez as Dh and who can’t hit lefties at all…..

    If you pinch run Nunez there and don’t score….then the Os tie it in the bottom of the inning then you have Ibanez out of the game and your best RH pinch hitter already burned .

    I get the reasoning for doing it….but there are reasons not to also…..I wouldn’t have done a straight steal there even with Nunez with Wieters catching
    **********

    Blake, no there aren’t? Nunez is the DH!!! you have NOT lost him!!! You have yet to make one reason other than Girardi knows what he is doing???

    he screwed up and you can’t admit it

  114. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    I can see this lineup tonie:
    jete nunez arod cano swish tex grandy mart-ero ichiro

  115. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    I’m hoping we hit More than our share of chinkers tonight.

  116. blake October 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    “Blake, no there aren’t? Nunez is the DH!!! you have NOT lost him!!! You have yet to make one reason other than Girardi knows what he is doing???”

    Joe didn’t want to lose Ibanez’s bat unless they had a better chance to score…..there you go. Just because you think he screwed up doesn’t mean he did…..both decisions were reasonable

  117. Patrick October 8th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    I can see this lineup tonie:
    jete nunez arod cano swish tex grandy mart-ero ichiro

    This would be a good lineup, Nunez rakes against lefties.

    I am not sure Girardi would do it though..

  118. The Genius Maker October 8th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Blake, with all due respect, this “logic” is flawed and wrong. To prove the point, when it mattered less Girardi still decided to pull Ibanez out for the PR. With your logic, you should NEVER pinch run.

    Feel free to have the last word as this is silly

  119. jacksquat October 8th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Girardi didn’t pinch hit Nunez for Ibanez vs a lhp last night (and he still had Chavez) so I really doubt he’d put him in the top of the lineup.

  120. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    tom – Not sure 1950s lexicon provides much of a defense.. especially for things involving race. But seeing as how I’m the only person that finds it somewhat uncouth, I’d rather discuss a more important issue involving the divorce of Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman: Who do you guys think gets custody of Matilda??!

  121. SonyBravo October 8th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    >>I do think we’ve gotten so PC in our society that people are unjustly accused of things and people do see spys behind bushes where there are none.<<

    Trisha, thoughtful post on the "chinker" thing. It reminds me of a time, probably 15 or 20 years ago, when someone in politics got trashed for using the term "niggardly" – which means miserly and has no connection to that other word that shall remain nameless. I can't remember who it was or which side of the political aisle he was on, but he got in trouble just for using a word that kinda sounds like a word we shouldn't say. And in my opinion, that's going a bit far.

  122. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Whenever somebody starts a comment with, “with all due respect”, you Know they mean Exactly the opposite.

  123. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Which one is taller, DeVito or Perlman???

  124. blake October 8th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    “Blake, with all due respect, this “logic” is flawed and wrong.”

    Because you say so? Again with the runner on 3B there is the potential to score on a wild pitch or sac fly etc….. Runner on 1B with no outs isn’t as much of a scoring opportunity as 1st and 3rd with no outs….so my guess is Joe didn’t want to make the move and take Ibanez out until they had a better chance to score as they already had a lead…..you can act as authoritarian as you want but I don’t see it as being some boneheaded decision like you do…..and id rather just move on all together

  125. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Which one is taller, DeVito or Perlman???

    ————

    Matilda.

  126. SonyBravo October 8th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    >>Whenever somebody starts a comment with, “with all due respect”, you Know they mean Exactly the opposite.<<

    Very true! I once had this discussion with an old coworker/friend right after I finally lost my temper with a truly evil supervisor. My friend said that the moment I said "with all due respect," he knew it wasn't going to be pretty.

  127. Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    a better world could have been used by Ripken… shame and bravo both have a point. It’s time to move on. baseball is more interesting.

  128. Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    word.

  129. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    Hey, guess what…Patrick was right about Nix.

  130. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    a better world could have been used by Ripken… shame and bravo both have a point. It’s time to move on. baseball is more interesting.

    ———————

    If by ‘baseball’ you mean this discussion that’s been going on about the hit and run.. I’ll stick with discussing Danny DeVito lol :P

    Seriously, how about Taxi, huh?

  131. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Shame,
    My forebears, including one of my grandfathers, lived in log and sod houses on the prairie. That grandfather used to talk about packing the chinks in his wall in Nebraska with newspapers during the Blizzard of ’88. Chinks in the armor, chinks in the wall, chinks in the defense, all bad things. Nothing racial about it at all. O, this brave new world!

  132. Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Personally, I am little surprised by how easily the Reds are dispatching the Giants in the first 2 games.

  133. Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    I enjoy watching Taxi reruns and some Cheers as well, both just a tad before my time. Taxi is slightly less formulaic than Cheers but both won plenty laughs when i was older to understand the sub context in their humor. esp, Taxi.

  134. Doc Iac October 8th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    enuff arguing, its national mila kunis day….and for that we should all be thankful

  135. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Mike F. defending Arod to the death…

  136. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    I enjoy watching Taxi reruns and some Cheers as well, both just a tad before my time. Taxi is slightly less formulaic than Cheers but both won plenty laughs when i was older to understand the sub context in their humor. esp, Taxi.

    —————–

    I think It’s Always Sunny ended up being his best work..

  137. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    Mr.Tom- You have chinks in your walls?

  138. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Mr. mick,
    House begun in 1828, finished in the 1870s, hell, yes, I’ve got chinks in the walls. Part of the charm, but I can use them to shoot out of them, if need be.

  139. Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    yeah, another good show Shame. though I don’t watch it consistently. I like boardwalk empire and breaking bad. But i normally catch up the entire season at my leisure rather than watching it judiciously on a weekly basis.

  140. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    …and I liked those guys who did the game last night…of course I don’t pay attention to any of them except TimBuck….if I don’t hear them that means they’re good….sort of like a good ump or actor.

  141. blake October 8th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    I think we should just call all blooper hits from now on “Stewies” and then nobody would be offended…..except maybe Stewie.

  142. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    I have too many chinks in me wall.

  143. blake October 8th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    “enuff arguing, its national mila kunis day….and for that we should all be thankful”

    here here

  144. m October 8th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Yes, Hamilton’s bat is sexy.

    But he’s been loopy this season. He’s also brittle. that’s my main gripe/objection.

  145. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    i like the term duck snort, you don’t hear that anymore…offensive to ducks?

  146. HipHipHorHay October 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    I wasn’t following the in-game thread last night. So, I was just wondering if anyone was asking why Cano didn’t dive for that McLouth hit that knocked in the two runs. I know he’s a good fielder, but that looked like a play he could have made, or at least tried to dive for. If they’d have lost 2-1….

    Not pouring water on the win, I’m psyched! It’s just a question that occurred to me when I was watching.

  147. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Hi guys, whatever happened to our reasonable right of locution? :(

  148. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    I never did like those ducks,…especially, the Exile ones.

  149. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    Some observations:
    Swisher had great AB’s all night…looked relaxed.
    Tex looks like he’s coming around.
    Martero would be MVP as of now…
    Leave Arod where he is…we have enough around him to ease his pain.
    What was Ichiro thinking….doesn’t he know the rule, you don’t make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd?
    (he says he will do it again)

  150. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    I’ve now read the word chink on here more times than I would have liked.. ever. So.. PC my ass.. everyone seems plenty comfortable. I didn’t wanna keep up the discussion but if I’m the only one defending it I certainly will take up that mantel. Words like f*g, colored and bean eater have plenty other non-offensive/racially charged meanings… but in the last year I’ve seen the word ‘chink’ describe two high profile players and both were Asian. Even if it were by pure coincidence, that only reinforces my point.

  151. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Mick, here’s hoping, you’re the actual mick! :)

  152. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    I think It’s Always Sunny ended up being his best work..
    ========================
    Throw Momma From the Train….or was it Don’t?

  153. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    yeah, another good show Shame. though I don’t watch it consistently. I like boardwalk empire and breaking bad. But i normally catch up the entire season at my leisure rather than watching it judiciously on a weekly basis.

    ————————-

    I also need to watch tv shows that way.. I’m too impatient for a week to week set.. and I watch them online after they air anyway since I’m a cheapo lol.

  154. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Owen!

  155. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    My mom can leave the train as far as I’m concerned.

  156. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Twins.

  157. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Swisher had great AB’s all night…looked relaxed

    ————-

    I agree. It looked like just another game for him.

  158. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Shame, I understand your point! If racist, the announcers go!, no question.

  159. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Leave Arod where he is…we have enough around him to ease his pain.

    ————–

    Batting 3rd is fine vs lefties; he belongs there. But he should be 6th vs righties.

  160. Cashmoney October 8th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    yeah, shame, i hate the idea of waiting for a week on a cliff hanger… rather wait and watch the whole season at my whim. though, I discover that i am a lot less patient than i was 10 years ago, i blame on the technology!

  161. Hassey October 8th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Wise Guys

  162. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    No seriously guys… Twins.

  163. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Cuckoo’s Nest

  164. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Mick, jack was great in, ” Cuckoo.”

  165. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Tin Men
    Man on the Moon

  166. tucker October 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Even though ARod is struggling, he’s still a good OBP guy. Only Buck is smart enough to see his struggles and has instructed his pitchers to right after ARod.

  167. mick October 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Juicy fruit…

  168. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    (no one even threw Batman out there)

  169. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Plath wanted to rite ’bout Twins ( doubles ) in Ulysses, but was too tired and chose Dostoevsky instead.

  170. Nick in SF October 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    “It reminds me of a time, probably 15 or 20 years ago, when someone in politics got trashed for using the term “niggardly” – which means miserly and has no connection to that other word that shall remain nameless. I can’t remember who it was or which side of the political aisle he was on…:

    It was an aide to the mayor of Washington, D.C. The aide was a Caucasian gay male, the mayor an African-American. There was a backlash and then a reverse-backlash. Very comical to those whose jobs were not threatened by the controversy.

  171. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    tucker October 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Even though ARod is struggling, he’s still a good OBP guy. Only Buck is smart enough to see his struggles and has instructed his pitchers to right after ARod.
    —————-

    I don’t think Buck’s the only one to notice.. Pitchers really have been coming right at Alex with the fastball lately. Sometimes, not even fast fastballs. We’re talkin like low 90s, high 80s stuff.

  172. mick October 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Mini Me

  173. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Yes, mick, I’ve seen both of them. Love Kaufman,….I think :)

  174. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    forecast is looking better for tonight. Right now there’s only a 10% chance of rain from 6 – 9 pm. The most important thing is getting the game started. After that they’ll play in a light rain if they need to. But I dont think they’ll start the game in the rain. After 9pm there’s a 30/40% chance of showers for the rest of the night.

    Not great, but much better than this morning.

  175. Patrick October 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Hey, guess what…Patrick was right about Nix.

    LOL yeah but it was completely by accident.

  176. Tar October 8th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Hey Bo are those all drip coffee makers? they look sweet. I also have a Barratza, but go the espresso route. where do you get your beans from? I really like this blend I get from MT. It’s called Red bird, good stuff.

  177. mick October 8th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    The Penguin

  178. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Mick,…..Mini Me? :) I’m, lost.

  179. jmills October 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Devitto,…the penguin.

  180. rizzo8118 October 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Would be nice to have Mcgehee on the roster right about now… He’s 1 for 3 with a HR and 2BB against Chen.

  181. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    I like DeVito in “Big Fish”. Poignant movie that Never got it’s due. “Taxi” is hit-and-miss. I do like Christopher Lloyd in Anything he does. The guy carried both “Taxi” and the entire “Back To The Future” franchise. That “88 Miles an hour” line is hilarious.

  182. m October 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    There are a lot of references to Nurse Rachet (sp?) around here. I read the other day that the actress refuses to watch “One Flew Over…” because she can’t bear to watch the cruelty.

  183. DONNYBROOK October 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    She probably also avoids ALL The Three Stooges shorts.

  184. ctyankeefan. October 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Chen owned us earlier in the year, but didnt we rough him up pretty good last time we faced him?

  185. saucY October 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    whenever anyone ever mentioned that Hollywood marriages never last, I would always point to Danny and Rhea.

    Sad….. Now I have to come up with a different example….. hmm….

  186. Bret The Hitman October 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    WTF?

    So when Ichiro drives a ball into the gap, you just know racist Ripken will call it a “Japper”

    Chinkers

    Jappers

    It’s all the same to bloodthirsty racist Cal Ripken.

    Dontcha know?

  187. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    This forecast for Baltimore tonight looks OK. http://www.weather.com/weather.....D0018:1:US … But forecasts used by baseball people look more ominous

    —————

    I’m not even sure what that means. Baseball people somehow have some secret forecast that is better than everyone elses? come on…

  188. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
    This forecast for Baltimore tonight looks OK. http://www.weather.com/weather.....D0018:1:US … But forecasts used by baseball people look more ominous

    —————–

    I’m not even sure what that means. Baseball people somehow have some secret forecast that is better than everyone elses? come on…

  189. Nick in SF October 8th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Chen has found that the burden of being Taiwan’s Glory is a heavy one.

    Tonight it becomes heavier still as he pitches in his final game of the 2012 season.

    He will be enjoying the dumplings at Din Tai Fung or perhaps visiting one of Tainan’s tea houses while the Yanks’ season continues.

  190. luis October 8th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson….Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn, even though they never married…Steven Spielberg and Kate Upshaw….There are many other Holliwood marriages that i can’t recall now that have lasted…Not the mayority, but some do.

  191. Doc Iac October 8th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Mark Healey ?@MHealeySports

    I’m sorry but the Texas Rangers, while an org I admire, has gotten far too little blowback for horrendous choke job.

  192. luis October 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    I liked Burgess Meredith as the penguin better than De Vitto…

  193. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    “After carrying a 3.46 ERA (4.01 FIP) through his first 22 starts, Chen pitched to a 5.34 ERA (5.17 FIP) in his final ten starts of the season.”

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....hen-77135/

  194. mikenyy19 October 8th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    They cannot have Arod in the 3 hole. He is such a liability right now. Everyone is hitting except for him. I don’t care about his reputation, I dont care about what he DID. No pitcher fears him as they do the rest of the lineup. If the yankees don’t go far into this postseason, I blame it solely on Girardi and his reluctance to move Arod.

  195. blake October 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    why aren’t “baseball people” forecasting the weather for weather.com then?

  196. saucY October 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    all those people are boring though, luis :/

  197. blake October 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    @Joelsherman1: Column 2 http://t.co/FGpveqOl False rumor Ichiro wouldn’t start Gm 1 showed just how quickly #Yankees fans have fallen for Ichiro

  198. SoS October 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    What is up fellas!
    Just wanted to drop by and say that this year the stars are aligned. No angels, rangers, phils. #28 is ours for the taking.

    I heard they are giving the first 500 fans Igawa shades just in case it rains. And if there is a rain delay, they will show some of the Best of Godzillas (the Yankee) video stash on the Baltimore bid screen. Should have consulted with his wife. Pie eating contest for tonights Yankee hero while wearing a championship belt. How fun is tonight going to be!

    GO YANKEES! We need an A-bomb from A-Rod followed by a Tex message doing his impersonation of kirk gibson around the bases. Ohhh the good ol days!

    Remember to always say I got it even if you dont when going after a shallow pop fly.

  199. Bo knows October 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Tar

    Yes, they’re drip. I’m a reverse snob. I’ve been known to buy Jamaica Blue Mountain and serve it drip style. Good choice on the Redbird, I had some at a friends and it was excellent. I buy my coffee roasted locally, lately the Rwanda Musasa. Interesting note from Redbird – If you vacu seal and freeze it, coffee will keep indefinitely.

  200. tomingeorgia October 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    luis,
    Commiserations. 6 more years, unless something intervenes. Keep up the spirits. This, too, shall pass, unless, of course, the USA joins you.

  201. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Sherman should stop calling that non-Ichiro lineup a false rumor. It was a real lineup that came across the beat writers screens. It’s not like someone made it up out of this air. It was just wrong.

  202. Ys Guy October 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    hey, i’d like to see them move arod, too, but you can’t pre-blame a guy for something you think is going to happen.

  203. Doc Iac October 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    GO YANKEES! We need an A-bomb from A-Rod followed by a Tex message doing his impersonation of kirk gibson around the bases. Ohhh the good ol days!

    i agree, i would love a playoff game that doesnt take a year off my life from stress, all im askin for is 6-0 yankees goin into the 8th

  204. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    I predicted a sweep in this series with 1 blowout and 2 nail biters. Despite the final score, I think last night qualifies as a nail biter. I believe tonight will be the blowout.

  205. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    LOL, I love that article by Sherman. The part about Ichiro and Yankee fans, though, not the part about how it’s Twitters fault that journalists aren’t real journalists anymore.

  206. blake October 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Sherman should stop calling that non-Ichiro lineup a false rumor. It was a real lineup that came across the beat writers screens. It’s not like someone made it up out of this air. It was just wrong.”

    Yea but they didn’t confirm with the team that it was accurate first before tweeting it

  207. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@BloggingBombers
    Yankees-Orioles Game 3 scheduled for 7:37 pm Wednesday night in the Bronx

    Mark Feinsand ?@BloggingBombers
    If both the DET-OAK and CIN-SF series end Tuesday, the Yankees and Orioles will move to 8:37 pm Wednesday night.

  208. blake October 8th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    CountryClub says:
    October 8, 2012 at 3:59 pm
    I predicted a sweep in this series with 1 blowout and 2 nail biters. Despite the final score, I think last night qualifies as a nail biter. I believe tonight will be the blowout.

    Definitely a nail biter

  209. mick October 8th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Big Fish.

  210. Warning Track Power October 8th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    I saw this stat last night during the game and was shocked.
    Reading the stat today has not made me react any different.

    A-Rod finished reg. season homerless in last 68 at-bats.
    He hasn’t homered in postseason in 65 at-bats.

  211. luis October 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Thanks Tom

  212. Shame Spencer October 8th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@BloggingBombers
    Yankees-Orioles Game 3 scheduled for 7:37 pm Wednesday night in the Bronx

    Mark Feinsand ?@BloggingBombers
    If both the DET-OAK and CIN-SF series end Tuesday, the Yankees and Orioles will move to 8:37 pm Wednesday night.

    ———————-

    Yep. This isn’t annoying at all.

  213. CountryClub October 8th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    new post

  214. saucY October 8th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Yep. This isn’t annoying at all.

    —-

    meh, allows me to do more stuff after work. i like 8:30ish.

  215. rm October 8th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    ” Girardi did a hit and run with Ibanez instead of Nunez; that is simply a mistake! ”

    ——————————————————-

    I thought they needed a pinch runner for Ibanez as well. But they way it worked out it looked like Ibanez running caught them by surprise and there was a huge hole for Jeter to hit it into.
    Everybody would expect Nunez to run Ibanez running was a surprise and it worked.
    Could Garadi actually be that smart?

  216. luis October 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    One thing I want to say about comparing this team to the 2009 team….The 09 season was magical, they never seemed to be out of a game, somehow they managed to win every game…This team while he ended up in first place, didn’t have the magical season the 09 team had…So i wouldn’t even compare them, even if they win it all.

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