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Betances takes loss in Fall League opener

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 09, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Arizona Fall League got started this afternoon, and it didn’t start particularly well for Dellin Betances.

Pitching an inning and two-thirds out of the bullpen, Betances was charged with two runs on a double, two walks and a wild pitch. Both runs scored after Betances was out of the game. He left runners at the corners with two outs, and those two came around on a double. He threw 28 pitches, and only 13 were strikes. For a guy trying to get past control problems, that’s not the Fall debut you’re looking for.

There was better Yankees news in the lineup where David Adams started at third base, batted third and went 1-for-3 with a double and walk. Austin Romine was the starting catcher, batting sixth, and he also doubled and walked. Slade Heathcott started at DH and batted fifth, but he went hitless.

It’s a strong group the Yankees have sent to the Scottsdale Scorpions this fall. In addition to Betances, Adams, Romine and Heathcott, the Yankees sent right-handed pitchers Zach Nuding, Dan Burawa and Mark Montgomery.

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89 Responses to “Betances takes loss in Fall League opener”

  1. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Dellin’s coming back from an injury and has barely pitched except for a couple of innings in Instructs. I wouldn’t be too concerned about the results right now. Just happy to see him back pitching.

  2. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    I think he last pitched in a real game on August 22nd, but I appreciate the coverage, Chad.

  3. blake October 9th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    luckily Betances is going to help us get under that luxury tax says Hal!

  4. fantasygame101 October 9th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Strike to ball ratio is the first thing to look at betances. That is the first one that he needs to vastly improve on.

  5. Pat M. October 9th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    blake……I read your post from the previous thread regarding a truce with Face…..You got it

  6. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Why doesn’t everyone agree to a truce? There was as usual too much bullsh*t in the game threads. We’re all on the same side, and we need to pull together and win a couple of games. Let’s not mired the game thread with infighting.

  7. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    *mire

  8. ricardo1020 October 9th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Nice to see he’s in mid-season form! One of the untouchable “Killer B’s”. Good thing Whitey Ford’s not coming through the system nowadays…Cashman would have traded him for a sore=armed middle reliever.

  9. mick October 9th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    mick October 9th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    since he’s not going to start Gardner, realistically his lineup should be:
    Jeter, Ichiro LF, Cano, Tex, Chavez 3B, Arod DH, Ibanez RF, Martin, Grandy

    We rout , Swish and Grandy and maybe Arod get wakeup calls and relax for game 4 and beyond…

  10. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    FTR, I am talking about fighting among posters not censorship re: freedom of expression.

  11. mick October 9th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    BloggingBombers More Girardi on potential lineup changes: sulia.com/c/new-york-yan…
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    I told you Joe reads this stuff.

  12. raymagnetic October 9th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    He’s already in midseason form :|

  13. blake October 9th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Pat M,

    heard any gossip on the links or from the pool girls?

  14. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Too bad he and Cash didn’t read the preseason Lohud about Alex (not the player’s fault) no longer being a middle of order bat or Cano needing better protection than the roster we went with.

  15. mick October 9th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Who would that protection for Cano be?

  16. blake October 9th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    I’d go with this tomorrow:

    Jeter
    Ichiro
    Cano
    Tex
    Swisher
    Arod
    Granderson
    Martin
    Ibanez/Chavez

  17. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    I wonder how much CF play Heathcott will get in AFL. He DH’ed today.

  18. mick October 9th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Swisher 5th??!!??
    Again, you need Chavez and Ibanez in there.
    Not getting your reasoning blake…

  19. Pat M. October 9th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    blake…….Pool service is on Thursday and I do hope to see a few guys in the next weeks or so and I want to hear about Yu Darvish and what he’s got ……..

  20. CompassRosy October 9th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    YF ~

    The Scorpions and the Javelinas play each other on Saturday :)

    I don’t know what the match ups will be, as I’m not sure how they set the rotations at the start of the season (since they aren’t pitching a lot of innings yet). All the M’s Javelinas pitched today (and did quite well).

  21. mick October 9th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    1-32 Swish w/ risp , surely you jest…

  22. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Hi Rosy, Paxton pitched today for the Javelinas and had a pretty nice outing. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....n_perwin_1

  23. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    blake, Swish 5th with that 0-6 sss vs. Gonzalez? Would the binder permit it?

  24. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Oops, Rosy, I realize you already know that. Anyway, Paxton did a good job. I wish these games were televised.

  25. mick October 9th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    since he’s not going to start Gardner, realistically his lineup should be:
    Jeter, Ichiro LF, Cano, Tex, Chavez 3B, Arod DH, Ibanez RF, Martin, Grandy

    We rout , Swish and Grandy and maybe Arod get wakeup calls and relax for game 4 and beyond…

  26. blake October 9th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    yankeefeminista says:
    October 9, 2012 at 8:05 pm
    blake, Swish 5th with that 0-6 sss vs. Gonzalez? Would the binder permit it?

    Probably not…. But I like how he’s swung the bat coming in to the series

  27. CompassRosy October 9th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    YF ~

    Thanks, I saw that. Glad to see him off to a good start. He ended up with decent numbers at AA Jackson but, had some struggles (and I believe he was on the DL for a time).

    Do they do a 5-day rotation in the AFL? Do they list “probable pitchers” somewhere?

  28. mick October 9th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    and why didn’t he pinchrun for Tex last night w/ Gardner and why didn’t Cano dive for that ball?

  29. CompassRosy October 9th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    oh yeah ~ me too with the “televised” wish :)

  30. blake October 9th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    1-32 is over years…. It really has nothing to do with this year and its a small sample anyway

  31. mick October 9th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    ok blake

  32. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Rosy, they didn’t have a probable pitchers up on the schedule yesterday or today, … probably because pitchers only get a few innings each per game. But I’d guess traditional starters would still stick to a every 5 days rotation…

  33. Bo knows October 9th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Re post

    you both are two of my favorite and best posters we have here so lets try to get along and cheer on #28 at this glorious time of the year…..what say ye?

    ————
    Second blake

    (I seem to be doing this a lot)

    This is selfish but a) who’s going to retrieve all the esoteric trivia, hard data and b) I wanna hear about the glory years and of course the pool cleaners.

  34. CompassRosy October 9th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Thanks, YF.

    I’ll keep an eye on the Scorpions and Javelinas Saturday…
    as you’ll likely be preoccupied with a silly little thing known as the ALCS ;)

  35. Bo knows October 9th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Resection, dissection vivesection – Blech

    The Yankees are what they are. Can’t do much to change them. Ya dance with who brung ya.
    Swisher was instrumental in the late season charge, had a good first game. The Yankees are in the post season, enjoy.

  36. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    Rosy, I am a multitasker. ;) I wish they would update milb game day, so that we at least knew what pitches the pitchers were throwing.

  37. CompassRosy October 9th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    YF ~

    Agree.
    Or, better yet, they need an “AtBat” app for MiLB!

  38. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Bo, any decision released yet on the illegality of NHL lockout in Alberta?

  39. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Pat M.,
    If you’re still around, there’s nothing like being sure because some sample says so. Dewey believed it, and so should we. Lots of people have gone because of the certitude displayed here. Your pool girls must be a lot more entertaining than today’s doom and gloom posts. Why don’t we just win the next two games and move on? When we win because a few now comatose Yankees get a hit or two, then we’ll see what the comments are, maybe from a few folks who’ve watched a few ballgames thought the years. Let’s go Yankees!

  40. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Rosy, that would be fine with me. It’ll happen. milb coverage keeps getting better and better. :)

  41. CompassRosy October 9th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    An interesting article/data re: “expected strikes” on FanGraphs…

    Getting and Not Getting the Calls | http://tinyurl.com/8bg4hdg

  42. RadioKev October 9th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Aroldis Chapman throws hard

  43. RadioKev October 9th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    Who will have more career appearances, Brackman or Betances?

  44. blake October 9th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Right now the score is 3-2 Brackman…..I hope it doesn’t end that way.

  45. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Here’s some of Olney reported re what the scouts are saying about Arod’s swing these days:

    “The broad perception of Rodriguez right now is that he can’t hit even an average fastball of 91-92 mph — unless he guesses right and gets his swing started a little sooner and manages to time the pitch. As one rival scout said, “He’s making 91 mph look like 99 mph” with the way he’s swinging the bat. The evaluators think that in trying to make up for the inability to catch up to fastballs, Rodriguez is trying to get his bat started sooner, which leaves him more vulnerable to breaking pitches on the outer edge of home plate.

    That’s the eye test, and as New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi considers what to do with his lineup for Game 3, there is also an ocean of data that reinforces the need for change with Rodriguez.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Doesn’t bode well for the team’s chances if he’s still right there in the meat of the lineup — not that I think Swisher is any great shakes, either. His posing seems to increase exponentially when he’s in the playoffs — may have something to do with the increased viewership.

  46. austinmac October 9th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Tom,

    You seem a reasonable guy. However, if others think they perceive something negative, you become negative by criticizing them. I, too, get irritated when people profess some absolute foresight. Some perceive this team to have issues. They should get to express them without denigration from others.

  47. Bo knows October 9th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Bo, any decision released yet on the illegality of NHL lockout in Alberta?

    ——–
    I don’t know. I am completely torqued at the whole mess. They’re killing the goose. I find myself on the side of the owners, strange as it may seem. A lot of teams are struggling down south. Hockey players are now making enough money to support high maintenance starlets so they bring in hired guns to speak for them. The game was coming along nicley for all concerned, the salary cap was moving up every year. And now this. All this posturing is hurting the sport fan base big time.

  48. RadioKev October 9th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Blake,

    Imagine if it did. That would be the real shocker. Not that they tried and failed in the big leagues, but that they simply couldn’t stick.

    I can’t claim to know as much about Betances as many people here, but I’d trade him, if possible, for any piece that could be of use. I just can’t imagine he suddenly finding success in our organization. Seems like it will take an outside force.

  49. austinmac October 9th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Wang,

    That scouting report meets my eye test. He fouls to the right side virtually every fastball, if he makes contact.

  50. Pat M. October 9th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    tomingeorgia…….I’m on my best behavior besides I’m sweating out The Giant game and then I have The A’s….Need to make some money as it’s been a spotty postseason thus far……..Our pal Nick in SF was going to all three games I think so hopefully we’ll be getting updates from him………Amazes me how I can do alright all these years wagering on baseball without all the flow charts with the pretty colors……Still no word from Doreen about our pal GB, concerning to say the least

  51. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    Austinmac,

    Yeah, it seems to say exacting we’ve been seeing as fans. I think rather than move him somewhere else in the lineup, I’d like to see Chavez get the start, but that is extremely unlikely to happen.

  52. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    *exactly (I’ve been typing this morning like I’m drunk.) Yikes.

  53. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Giants take the lead, yes!

  54. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Sure would like to see the A’s do something against the Tigers in this series.

  55. RadioKev October 9th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Sergio Romo doesn’t use batting gloves

  56. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    YF — who are you rooting for in the National League?

  57. blake October 9th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Go A’s

  58. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    austin,
    I have to wait until tomorrow to reply, but I never singled out a poster for negativity, The aim is to win tomorrow, is all I’m saying. We can crucify Arod and Swisher all we want, but one or both of them may win a game tomorrow. Let’s go Yanks!

  59. Benny Blanco October 9th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Blake,

    I thought I was your favorite poster? haha..

  60. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    True ‘nuf, Tom. Let’s go Yanks!

  61. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Wang, always root for the Giants.

  62. yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Wang, ditto RE: A’s. Wish they had scored a few more runs in the first.

  63. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Good morning, Wang,
    Have a good day.

  64. tucker October 9th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Betances did not look as bad as his line indicates. He got a couple of broken-bat groundouts. He did surrender a double, but the ball was not hit particularly hard down the third base line. David Adams was playing far off the line, and he could not get to the ball.

    For Betances, it was the same bugaboo with him. His command was not there, and he appeared to be aiming his breaking ball. He left the game with two outs and runners at the corners. His replacement gave up a meatball.

    Heathcott, though hitless, hit a couple of balls hard. And he worked a walk off of a hard-throwing lefty in the 8th inning to extend a rally.

  65. tucker October 9th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Nice gutsy win by the Giants.

  66. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    yankeefeminista October 9th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    Wang, ditto RE: A’s. Wish they had scored a few more runs in the first.

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    I bet they do, too. ;)

    Thanks, Tom. It’s a holiday here today (Double Ten Day = Oct 10th). It’s their “July 4th” so to speak. I wish I had the Yanks to watch today, but a day off is still a day off.

  67. blake October 9th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    “Blake,

    I thought I was your favorite poster? haha..”

    I said “two OF my favorite posters” ;)

  68. luis October 9th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Good evening again,

    My internet service sucks…I’ve been having trouble with it the whole weekend and all the way in to this week…Finally I have some service, so I’ll be brief…

    I hope the Yankees win it all…Bo knows, makes a very good point in that we have to win it with what we’ve got…Hopefully we do.

    YF,

    Good point…I wonder if they’ll let Heathcott play CF…Are they afraid of him geting hurt again?

  69. luis October 9th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Come on Benny!! don’t put good old blake in a spot ;)

  70. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    Luis,

    I know I’m late with these sentiments, but I’m so sorry about the Chavez “win”. Venezuelans deserve so much better.

  71. luis October 9th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Wang,

    It is never too late ;) Thanks bro

  72. Phranchise October 9th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    Still think that Betances isn’t Daniel Cabrera part 2? Cabrera at least made the majors for a while. Can’t believe how he fell off the track, but going the same way Brackman did. With no control he can’t even be a quality reliever. Yankees were smart drafting pitching but this is a case in point on how hard they are to develop and the struggles of the process. The injuries across the board have really killed them too. Not sure how the cap desire can even be achievable at this point unless they aim lower towards just garnering a wild card spot for a few years.

  73. luis October 9th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    Wang,

    Another thing…Apparently they like what they have :(

  74. Wang IS Taiwan October 9th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Luis,

    Makes no sense at all.

  75. luis October 9th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Wang,

    No it doesn’t…But that is what it appears to be the result…Ignorance is a very powerful tool to stay in power…There is a saying to goes along this lines: ” An ignorant population often becomes a blind instrument for their own distruction”

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