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Postgame notes: “Our fans haven’t had much to cheer about”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 14, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The way the Yankees swung the bats this weekend, home field wasn’t much of an advantage. A lineup that’s supposed to be built for this place managed just four hits in Game 2, and the Yankees scored in only one of 21 innings this weekend. By the time the final out was recorded, Yankee Stadium was no longer a friendly place to play.

“Our fans haven’t had much to cheer about, so you can’t blame them,” Alex Rodriguez said. “You have to blame us. If was sitting there I would be perplexed too. We didn’t score any runs. What the hell are we going to cheer about?”

For the most part, the Yankees seem to be at a loss to explain the offensive struggles. Joe Girardi said it’s a matter of making adjustments. Kevin Long said his team needs to regroup. Mark Teixeira talked about not getting some break. Russell Martin said the off day is coming at a good time.

Is it possible going on the road is actually better at this point?

“Maybe, man,” Nick Swisher said. “I’ve been so fortunate to be here and play every day. When things kind of turn like that, it kind of hurts a little bit. This is the type of city and crowd that really rallies around their team. That’s the reason we’ve got 27 championships. To go through a stretch like this where it’s kind of a negative attitude, a negative-type setting, that’s tough. But hey, that’s part of the game. Rightfully so. There are a lot of expectations here and I guess when you don’t get the job done, you’re going to hear about it.”

The Yankees have heard plenty, and they’ve given reason to hear it.

Tonight was kind of an extreme version of the Yankees postseason as a whole: Hiroki Kuroda was brilliant on short rest, there were a few breaks that went the wrong way — blown call at second, hard-hit ball knocked down by the pitcher — but ultimately, it came down to the offense being terrible again.

It’s become a familiar story, and not a pleasant one. We’ve all seen this lineup struggle before, but now it’s happening in the postseason, and everyone — the players, coaches and fans — seem to know what happens if this continues.

“We’ve been through stretches like this all year,” Rodriguez said. “It has been a very volatile stock market for us this year. You just hope you take a day off and come back with a lot of energy and turn it around. … It may start with a change of scenery. I think getting a day of rest tomorrow, take a deep breath, everybody come out and not try to do too much, let the river flow a little bit. We’ve been used to this type of hostile environment and having our backs against the wall, but I’ll tell you what, our heads are not going to go down.”

• Can’t say enough about Kuroda, who was masterful while pitching on short rest for the first time. “When I signed with the Yankees, I came here to help this team win and that’s what I’m doing right now,” Kuroda said. “So if they ask me to pitch again, I’ll do it (no) differently because today I only have three days rest and I pitched really well. If I have to do it again, I’m going to push the next game (the same) as this, that it will be the last game of my career. That’s the same approach I’ve taken all my professional career.”

• How did it feel to thrive in that situation? “I felt kind of numb out there,” Kuroda said. “Rather than feeling good or bad, I just wanted to get the next hitter. That’s how I felt out there today. … I tried not to think about the days of rest that I had, because that’s going to put pressure on myself, mentally. So I tried to just be aggressive.”

• Russell Martin on Kuroda: “He was outstanding today. For a while there, I felt like he was going to throw a no-hitter. He had great stuff, great command and good composure out there. You really cant ask for anything more than what he did. … I expected him to go out there and give his best stuff and that’s exactly what he had. He had great stuff. He threw the ball like a champ. We just didn’t do enough for him.”

• Robinson Cano has now gone hitless in his past 26 at-bats, the longest postseason stretch of hitless at-bats in Yankees postseason history according to the Elias Sports Bureau. Wade Boggs, Frank Crosetti, Whitey Ford and Dave Winfield each went hitless in 22 straight at-bats.

• The MLB record is 42 straight hitless postseason at-bats by Seattle’s Dan Wilson.

• How does Cano get so cold after he finished the season so hot? “I’ve been chasing a few pitches, but I’ve also been hitting the ball hard, just right at people,” Cano said. “There’s nothing you can do, just go out there and keep playing hard. I’m hitting some of the balls right at people. You see it yesterday with the bases loaded and it hits off the pitcher’s hand. That’s no excuse. You just forget about these two games and get ready for Tuesday.”

• The Yankees final hit was a single by Rodriguez, who said he was encouraged by his 1-for-4. “The last two at-bats were much better for me,” he said. “As long as you make solid contact and have something to build on. I feel good, and I think I can build on that.”

• I’ll probably have more on this at some point, but Swisher was pretty emotional talking about the fans in right field the past two nights. “Last night was pretty (bad),” he said. “A lot of people saying a lot of things that I’ve never heard before. Prime example: I missed that ball in the lights and the next thing you know, I’m the reason that Jeter got hurt. It’s kind of frustrating.”

• Kevin Long said Anibal Sanchez pitched exactly as the Yankees expected, leaning heavily on his changeup and staying away with offspeed pitches. “Staying away from us mostly, coming in for effect,” Mark Teixiera said. “Coming in just to kind of keep us off enough. He had three pitches working today, actually four pitches because he threw me a really good curveball, and he doesn’t throw a lot of big slow curveballs. But he had the slider, he had the change up and obviously the fastball up to 95.”

• Although his team didn’t score a run, Girardi was still furious about that blown call in the eighth inning. It opened the door to two insurance runs for the Tigers. “It’s different if it’s 1-0 than 3-0,” Girardi said. “It’s a lot easier for a reliever to relax. He knows if he makes one mistake, it is still 3-1. I am not saying we win the game if the call’s right. I am not saying that. And I am not saying if the call was right (on Cano’s play at first) last night that we win the game last night either. But in this day and age, there is too much at stake, and the technology is available. That’s what our country has done. We have evolved technology to make things better.”

• Cano on his failed attempt to turn a double play in the seventh, which led to the Tigers first run. “I didn’t get a grip on the ball,” Cano said. “I looked at the replay, and I would say he might have been safe (even if the play were made cleanly). That’s no excuse. I didn’t get a grip on the ball.”

• Girardi made it clear that he wanted to stay away from his top relievers tonight, and he did that. Joba Chamberlain got in the game — obviously he’s healthy enough to pitch — and Cody Eppley pitched well, but neither Dave Robertson nor Rafael Soriano pitched.

• Girardi made it clear that Phil Hughes will start Game 3. There will be no change to start CC Sabathia on short rest. “I think had the game been tied or we had a lead, I think both of us would have thrown,” Robertson said. “Just didn’t work out that way. Get an extra days rest and get ready to go into Detroit. … Yeah, you get a little sore. I think everybody does. I think if you ask everyone in this locker room, they’re all going to tell you they’re a little sore, but it doesn’t matter. When it comes down to the postseason, you go out there and pitch and you give it everything you’ve got.”

• The Yankees will not have a workout tomorrow and will fly to Detroit tomorrow evening so that the team can have a real off day. Girardi will be in Illinois for his father’s funeral. He said players have asked about coming. “Guys have asked me about it and I told them, ‘rest, rest,’” Girardi said.

• What was it like to play a playoff game without Derek Jeter in the dugout? “It’s strange,” Girardi said. “It was strange when in May I looked at the lineup card and Mo wasn’t on the lineup card on my pitcher’s card. It is strange not to see this man on any of your cards. There’s days where I have given him a day off, but it’s unusual. As far as bringing us down, no. I think the guys want to do it for him. I really do. So I think the energy level was good.”

• Final word goes to Rodriguez: “It’s definitely not an ideal situation. We’d rather be up 2-0 and facing a Triple-A pitcher. That would be nice. But again, we’ve done it all year. A lot of people counted us out. It seems like we thrive on coming back. But no one in this clubhouse will put their head down. We got to keep on fighting no matter how tough things get and we’ll be back on Tuesday.”

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234 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Our fans haven’t had much to cheer about””

  1. Jeremy October 14th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Swisher really is a moron. If you can’t take the heat then just quit. It’s not like the team will get any production from you.

  2. austinmac October 14th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Repost

    Cot’s had them at $209,700,000 at the beginning of the year. It would seem it would have gone up by some amount with the addition of Ichiro and McGehee.

  3. yankfan1 October 14th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    “Cano said. “I looked at the replay, and I would say he might have been safe (even if the play were made cleanly). That’s no excuse. I didn’t get a grip on the ball.””

    More excuses by Cano. Buddy, he would of been out by a mile

  4. joeman October 14th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    joeman October 14th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
    Granderson’s K rate the last 3 years has gone up at a steady rate with a BA around .240…his RBI’s for amount of HR’s he hits is low…. plays a nice D and hits HR’s

    joeman October 14th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    for the $ saved maybe I rather have a A Pagan in CF instead

  5. RadioKev October 14th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    Yeah, sorry, looks like I had bad information and a misunderstanding about fringe benefits.

    Well, on the bright side (?), if we don’t resign Cano, Swisher, or Granderson, that’s $30+m off the books.

  6. Nick in SF October 14th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Here’s Tony Bennett.

  7. slim October 14th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Does no reporter ask joe about Gardner?
    And why he is not getting any starts over swisher or granderson

  8. yankfan1 October 14th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    i understand he said no excuse right after. But saying the he “might have been safe” negates that. So frustrated with him this here. But all this talk about benching half the lineup is ridiculous. Look Gardner, Nunez, and Chavez are not going to be the ones to beat Verlander and get to the WS. You put in your regulars and hope for the best. You live and die with these guys, no lineup change is going to get us past this round. These guys got us here, just hope they break out of it.

  9. theREALkevin October 14th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Phil Hughes pitching in a must win game. Not CC Sabathia. Phil Hughes. Girardi will never understand how to manage in the playoffs. There’s no sense of urgency. This is like a game 7 for the Yankees, if you go down 0-3 it’s over, and you have Phil Hughes pitching. I mean the quotes today about the relievers- it’s a joke. The guy is more worried about pitchers being tired than winning the ALCS. Now is NOT the time to be worried about overworking guys. He’s still managing like he’s trying to navigate his way through the regular season. You have to totally empty the tank in these short playoff series. Girardi just simply does not understand this, and it has already hurt, and will continue to do so. They need better managing if they’re going to overcome their offensive shortcomings and Joe is once again coming up small.

  10. austinmac October 14th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    No problem. I wish for a trade for a young, cheap offensive player. Perhaps, someone from the Royals for a pitcher. That requires Kuroda and Pettitte returning. Both would be more expensive.

    I hate budgets.

  11. joeman October 14th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    get Pagan on this team next year…for a start

  12. Captain Clutch October 14th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    I love Cano but he is very immature. He has to grow up and take responsibility when he makes a mistake. Saying that he has been hitting the ball hard is just ridiculous and he isn’t being honest with himself. Jeter and Arod are very accountable. Cano is going to be a $200m man and he needs to step up and improve his all around game.

  13. joeman October 14th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    austinmac October 14th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    No problem. I wish for a trade for a young, cheap offensive player. Perhaps, someone from the Royals for a pitcher. That requires Kuroda and Pettitte returning. Both would be more expensive.

    I hate budgets.

    ——————————-
    Kuroda is going to want a lot of $$$$$

  14. yankfan1 October 14th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    and with regards to the future. I agree with letting Swish walk, and trading Grandy. But Cano though? really? What are you going to get in return for him? He’s by far the best 2nd baseman in the league. Find me guys in their prime who are a lock to hit .300/ 25-30/ 100 RBIs. And lets not forget he was our best hitter the previous 2 years in the playoffs.

  15. austinmac October 14th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Pettitte would want more for a full season after he showed he could still pitch.

  16. Kevin Not That Kevin Brown October 14th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Yes, they had the best record in the AL and won their division, but all season they did seem to get hot and cold as a team, and now they’re cold and it’s not pretty. And except maybe for that last month, did the RISP issue ever ‘even out’ as Girardi kept hoping it would?

  17. luis October 14th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Cashman achieved his dream.. We look like the M’s… All pitching no hitting… Soon we will have Ramiro Pena batting cleanup… And that day Cashman will be ecstatic.

  18. joeman October 14th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Cano can’t be traded… not going to get his worth back

  19. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Why would Kuroda want to come back? He had the worst run support of any of the starters and with support would have been a 20 game winner. I suppose the Yankees could try to entice him with a qualifying offer.

    Maybe the Dodgers will spend to bring him back, if he wants one more year pitching in the major leagues rather than return to Japan.

  20. Nick in SF October 14th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    luis, did you just post that to get someone to use the eyeroll emoticon?

  21. joeman October 14th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Arod is on a steady decline and his injuries are starting to be a every year thing, Jeter going to get 200+ hits next year, Cano going to continue to get thicker and slower…

  22. Kevin Not That Kevin Brown October 14th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Cano may be the best second baseman, and one of the best players, in the game right now. However cold he is in the playoffs – like he’s alone? – he’s the best player on the team. Letting him go would be a disaster for the Yankees. Save the money somewhere else.

  23. jmills October 14th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    Chuck Yeager, just broke the speed of sound,……again. :)

  24. EliasInNH October 14th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Jeremy October 14th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
    RadioKev

    .How is it different from the Red Sox situation ?
    —–
    It’s different from the Red Sox situation because the Yankees players still want to win. They just aren’t getting it done. Gonzalez, Beckett, Lester, etc. all quit on the team and the manager this year. I can’t really explain it in words. But I watched probably 50 red sox games this year either in person or on TV (as well as almost every Yankees game) and it was clear through body language, postgame interviews, etc., that the Red Sox team by and large, just quit

    The Yankee offense is slumping badly right now. But they haven’t quit like the Sox did.

  25. Nick in SF October 14th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Buck just said “Verlander — Sabathia” — typical misinformation or did something just change?

  26. luis October 14th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    Nick,

    Be my guest and use it. How about The NY Yankees nursing home for baseball players soon to be retired?

    Seriously though, I am too frustrated to be serious right now

  27. BobbyJones October 14th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    So Would Arod granderson and Swisher be all in the lineup

  28. jmills October 14th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Two to nothing, is ,….nothing. Put your Steve Deburg albums on. And,….your caps too!!! :)

  29. Captain Clutch October 14th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    The Yanks have to get Gardner in the lineup against Verlander. I remember him being a pest last year against him. The outfielder in Detroit is gigantic and they need his defense. Swisher deserves too sit for a night especially with the defense he had yesterday. I really don’t understand why Gardner is on the roster if he isn’t allowed to play.

  30. luis October 14th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Jmills,

    Deburg? Words don’t come easy to me! ;)

  31. Nick in SF October 14th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    luis, I’m going to guess that you’ve kept your anger bottled up since the end of the game and haven’t had the advantage that some of us have had to vent unfettered since then.

    Cashman definitely doesn’t want the team to look like the Mariners of all teams.

  32. jmills October 14th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Luis, its never that bad mon ami. I haven’t seen the post since I was in the bath tub and, Joe hit that gracious one. ” Touch ‘em all Joe, you’ll never hit a bigger one.”

    R.I.P., Sir Tom Cheek!

  33. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    The Yankees next season will possibly need:
    A RF’er-I’m no longer certain the Yankees will even make Swisher a qualifying offer.

    A LF’er if Granderson’s option is picked up and he is traded, putting Gardner in center.

    A closer if Soriano declines his option with Boras convincing him he can get the security of a 3 year deal elsewhere.

    A SS if Jeter can’t, after surgery, have the lateral mobility to cover short, and moves to another position.

    A 3B’man if ARod becomes the most expensive full time DH in history-27.5M plus 6M more when he passes Mays next year

    A Catcher if Martin signs elsewhere.

    A bench.

    And I’m only talking about the offense, not the starters-for starters. :)

  34. jmills October 14th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Sorry, Luis, I meant Chris Deburg, Spanish Train and all.

  35. Boss Tony N October 14th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Buck’s middle name is misinformation and his first name is bias.

  36. Chase October 14th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Cannot wait for Swisher to be off this team. Granderson too.

  37. luis October 14th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    In general terms you put the horses that brought you here. Besides there is very little Girardi can do with this roster. So yeah Bobby, expect Arod, Granderson and Swisher to be on the lineup.

    Cluth,

    Swisher was real bad today as well, that Cabrera’s foul fly that ended up in the stands was playable. He just jumped to make it dramatic and missed it as a result.

  38. Boss Tony N October 14th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    The worst part is, it’s not the aged players that are failing. Except for ARod.

    It’s the “prime” players and the early 30s guys that are failing.

  39. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    A RF’er-I’m no longer certain the Yankees will even make Swisher a qualifying offer.

    They have to, he won’t take a 1 year deal over a multi-year deal and they need the draft pick.

  40. Tyler October 14th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Trader-

    A closer? Mariano going somewhere else? I thought he’d be ready for spring training?

  41. Boss Tony N October 14th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    The day Swisher is off this team is the day I fly back to Norway to celebrate.

  42. Chase October 14th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    I also think Gardner should start in CF over Granderson on Tuesday.

  43. Tyler October 14th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    I’ll probably be way off but I have a good gut feeling about Hughes on Tuesday. He pitched his best game of the year in Comerica. I think he outpitches Verlander. Hughes 2007 at Texas shows up on Tuesday. I’m out on a limb.

  44. Bring in the Goose October 14th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    “Maybe, man,” Nick Swisher said. “I’ve been so fortunate to be here and play every day. When things kind of turn like that, it kind of hurts a little bit. This is the type of city and crowd that really rallies around their team. That’s the reason we’ve got 27 championships. To go through a stretch like this where it’s kind of a negative attitude, a negative-type setting, that’s tough. But hey, that’s part of the game. Rightfully so. There are a lot of expectations here and I guess when you don’t get the job done, you’re going to hear about it.”

    —-

    Feeling conflicted on this. Isn’t it this way in all sports? Not saying I condone personal, vicious attacks, but he hasn’t earned cheers.

  45. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    And they have to pick up Granderson’s option. He is unpopular but 1 year deal for a known quantity is extremely valuable. Trade him from that point on or don’t, but they have to do it. That way they can either live with him in CF for 1 more season & then get a draft pick, or trade him and get something in return.

    Also have to make qualifying offer to soriano if he opts out. And Kuroda ( I am convinced he will probably take it)

  46. MaxyC October 14th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    Oh, boo hoo Swisher. Maybe you should go to a place where you won’t feel pressured to perform, like Houston, Seattle, Cleveland, etc… Because you sure ain’t getting the job done here. Good riddance.

  47. luis October 14th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    Nick,

    You assume well… Those were my first words I have said since the 8th inning… I know he doesn’t want the Yankees to be like the M’s

  48. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    JF-

    You’re right. They could use the compensatory draft pick, but wouldn’t it be something if he decided to take it with the hope that a good season will either get him an extension with the Yankees or a better deal after the 2013 season as a free agent!

  49. MaxyC October 14th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    “I’ll probably be way off but I have a good gut feeling about Hughes on Tuesday. He pitched his best game of the year in Comerica. I think he outpitches Verlander. Hughes 2007 at Texas shows up on Tuesday. I’m out on a limb.”

    I think you’ll be sleeping on that limb come Tuesday. Hughes will litrally have to pitch a perfect game to beat Verlander.

  50. MaxyC October 14th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    Is it asking to much to at least have CC win one game for us in this series to avoid the sweep?

  51. jmills October 14th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    The only Buck I know, is Martinez, who broke his leg getting an out. He lay there in 85 as Gorman Thomas continued towowards third. Buck threw wildly down the line, and Gorman proceeded unto home. Bell flew the baseball to Buck who caught it while prone on his back, all the time tagging out Thomas as he tried to run by. Amazing!

    Thank you, Doyle Alexander.

  52. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    You’re right. They could use the compensatory draft pick, but wouldn’t it be something if he decided to take it with the hope that a good season will either get him an extension with the Yankees or a better deal after the 2013 season as a free agent!

    That would be to the Yankees advantage though. Swisher for 1 year @ known price > multi year deal @ market price.

    I think the Yankees are probably hesitant to bring Swisher back at this point, but that is because to do so would require committing to him for 3+ years. 1 year is easy. 1 year is tradable and doesnt impact 2014.

  53. Nick in SF October 14th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Make the offer to Kuroda in hopes that he comes back, but if he turns it down and goes back to Japan, do they still get a draft pick? I doubt it.

    As for Soriano, the money they owe him if he doesn’t opt out is already a qualifying amount, so it’s a no-brainer to make the same offer if he does opt out, but that seems fishy and loopholey that we’d get a draft pick for that.

  54. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    JF-.

    I’m not sure that the Yankee owners won’t be looking to pare down the overall salary this offseason.

    While they won’t be paying 50% LT calculated at the end of the 2013 season, it’s still a hefty sum of 42.5% for every dollar spent on the 40 man roster over 178M

  55. Boss Tony N October 14th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Kuroda, Pettitte, and Ichiro need to come back on short term deals. Hiroki Kuroda is something else. I thought at the beginning of the season he was just another NL to AL sham.

  56. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Make the offer to Kuroda in hopes that he comes back, but if he turns it down and goes back to Japan, do they still get a draft pick? I doubt it.

    As for Soriano, the money they owe him if he doesn’t opt out is already a qualifying amount, so it’s a no-brainer to make the same offer if he does opt out, but that seems fishy and loopholey that we’d get a draft pick for that.

    No they’d only get it if he signs with a MLB team. Not sure if you’re kidding about the Soriano thing, it is funny but yes we’d get a draft pick.

  57. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    @ESPNStatsInfo
    Carlos Beltran joins Babe Ruth & Albert Pujols as only players with 14+ HR & .325+ BA in postseason

  58. Ghostwriter October 14th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    “Yankees manager Joe Girardi spent much of his postgame press conference arguing for instant replay, saying that his team’s chances of scoring a run in the last two innings would have changed significantly if it were a one-run game instead of a three-run game.”

    Oh boohoo. Like that call made a difference. This team has scored in one inning out of 18 played against the Tigers, and they weren’t much better than that against the O’s. The Yankees need to start having better at-bats, and if they don’t do so, then they deserve to lose. That is the bottom line.

  59. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    YT,

    I totally get where you’re coming from, I can see the Yankees beginning to trim already as well, but if they really want to keep winning & meet their 2014 goal they have to do that stuff.

  60. Tyler October 14th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Beltran producing just makes me even more angry and frustrated….he was there on a platter for the Yanks this offseason.

  61. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Opposing pitchers not named Johnson or Valverde have a 1.42 ERA against the yankees in 57 innings. Quite possibly one of the most futile stretches of all time.

  62. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    What about Martin? Not much available on the FA catching market, unless you want to overpay for Pierzynski, who the WS teammates will probably be glad when he’s gone!

  63. Nick in SF October 14th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    I was and was not kidding about the Soriano thing. It would be odd — Soriano says “I’m walking away from this $13MM contract” and then the Yanks offer $13MM and they get compensated for it. I’m not complaining.

  64. Bronx Jeers October 14th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    After his final plate appearance, Swisher said fans serenaded him with: “Na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.4114096

    ———–

    I’m not sure why but I find this Swish vs The Fans thing kind of funny. Did he think he had some special relationship with them?

  65. NYY_Girl_Penny October 14th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Why would kuroda and pettitte wanna come back with this offense? Not being cynical, sincere question.

  66. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 14th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    “Tricia – were u on a rampage about “fairness” in the 09 alds or the 1996 baltimore series?”

    Uh yeah. In fact, if the Yankees got a break, I would not cheer it but would say that I didn’t want the Yankees getting freebies anymore than I wanted the other team to get them.

    When I say I am about fairness, I am about fairness.

    The one time I wasn’t bothered about the Yankees getting the benefit of a blown call was in a game where the opponent had just gotten the same thing. Other than that, no, I’m not into getting an edge that way.

  67. Tyler October 14th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Trader-

    I’d bring back Martin for the right price. His play behind the plate has been great. In a good lineup, he can exist…. it’s just that right now he’s hitting 5th. I have high hopes that Romine has the starting job by July. I really want to see him stay healthy and take charge with Sanchez moving up the ranks.

  68. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    JF-

    I think we already were seeing the Yankees frugality during the trading deadline, when they didn’t go after a right handed bat and instead made the Mariners pay the bulk of Ichiro’s remaining salary.

    I’m sorry, they did get McGehee!!

  69. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    The Yankees should look for an upgrade over Martin. Sadly I do not think one exists. I’d make a qualifying offer to Martin too.

  70. tucker October 14th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    The most frustrating part: this Tigers team really isn’t very good. They are a flawed, flawed team. No way the bats should look this bad vs two mediocre pitchers.

  71. luis October 14th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Good night everyone… Tomorrow is another day… Hopefully things turn out for the best

  72. Tyler October 14th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
    The Yankees should look for an upgrade over Martin. Sadly I do not think one exists. I’d make a qualifying offer to Martin too.
    ———————————————-

    The only other name that even caught my eye (other than Pierzynski) was Kelly Shoppach which is pretty sad. I’d be willing to bet Martin takes the qualifying offer.

  73. MaxyC October 14th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    Can the Yanks dump Martin and get Napoli?

  74. Tyler October 14th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    The team that wins between the Cards and Giants will win the World Series. This game has been light years better than the 2 ALCS games.

  75. jmills October 14th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Trish, your heart comes through every time mon ami! You and those still crazy after all these years Yankee fans, have an awesome nite. :)

  76. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Nick-

    Soriano would be opting out of a 14M 2013 contract. I actually hope he opts out and gets a contract elsewhere, with the Yankees using the money on offense.

    Sorry by the SF loss. This is looking like the year that the team with the worst record in the majors as the 2nd WC, might very well repeat as WS champs.

  77. fantasygame101 October 14th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    the only viable minor leaguers in the system are 2b namely adams and joseph. So if they can trade cano to solve multiple positions then they should do it specially if one of the solution is a cost effective sp. Jeter, robertson, rivera, andy, cc, kuroda, soriano are the players that I really want next yr. Trade all the others for pieces to support the above players.

  78. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Its going to be the 11th best team vs the 12th best team by record in the WS. Hilarious.

  79. Jeremy October 14th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    LOL ! The fans are not stupid. They know that Swisher and Granderson are bums. Both of them shouldn’t be back with the team. These losers deserved to be booed.

  80. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    JF-

    No chance they make a qualifying offer of 13M to Martin, who will sign it immediately before the ink is dry!

    There might not be anything better on the FA market, but they’ll let him test FA first or make him a 2 year offer with a club option for a 3rd year.

  81. Jeremy October 14th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    The Montero trade is coming back to haunt this team. We don’t have a major league ready catcher who can replace Martin.

  82. Yankee Trader October 14th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    Well goodnight everyone.

    Hopefully everything will work out for Jeter and he’ll have a quick full recovery, which is now looking like surgery.

  83. Nick in SF October 14th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    “Sorry by the SF loss.”

    Thanks, but it really doesn’t affect me emotionally tonight. I enjoy them a lot during the season, and I’ll root for them if the Yanks are eliminated, but right now I’m not too invested. I’ll probably care more tomorrow night when there’s no Yankee game to think about or Yankee loss to mourn.

    The New York Giants win is really the bright spot of the day, as far as teams I care about.

  84. Boss Tony N October 14th, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Bad day for SF fans. Much needed Giants win as the schedule is extraordinarily difficult the rest of the way, and the Giants always struggle in the 2nd half of the sked

  85. igotid88 October 14th, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    I know it’s not much. But A-Rod’s last 2 at bats are giving me some hope he’;; break out of it

  86. Boss Tony N October 14th, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    Nick, do u watch Homeland?

  87. fantasygame101 October 14th, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    I wonder if david ross is available next season. If he is, I would consider him for the right price and length. And the other should be either cervelli or romine.

  88. austinmac October 14th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    The Yankees had one of the best regular season records. Does that make them one of the best teams now? They don’t look like it to me. Series are how a team proves who is the best.

  89. cigator October 14th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    I have said it before, BLOW THIS TEAM UP. Except for Sabathia, Pettite, Robertson and Kuroda, the rest of the the staff can leave and never be missed. Jeter, Cano, Suzuki are the only position players worth keeping. Not a single other player matters one dang bit. The thought of having to watch Craprod for 5 more years, and worse than that listen to his nonsense comments should make every Yankee fan throw up a little in their mouth. Tex is a dime a dozen journeyman 1st baseman now, Swisher and his crap eating grin needs to be institutionalized. Granderson can take his .230 average somewhere else. I feel sorry for Girardi having to sit in the dugout and watch these doofus players close their eyes and swing. This is an abortion of a team. Kind of envy the Red Sox, they did what they need to do to rebuild. The Yanks are likely stuck with a disintegrating aging roster that will piss off the fans for some years to come.

  90. Jerkface October 14th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Worried they will sign him to something dumb like their original offer at the beginning of the season. Rather pay 1 year at a higher price than 3 years of Martin. That would be my preference anyways. He had some big hits down the stretch, and some nice saves in the CC game 5, but that doesnt overshadow the other facets of his subpar defense & offense.

    But you know, there may simply not be anything better available thanks to everyone getting locked up or being priced out.

    I’d try to trade for McCann in the offseason if the Braves were open.

  91. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 14th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    “Trisha, you should remember that you always lose the argument when you lose your cool. That’s something even mental midgets figure out eventually.”

    Seriously nick? Gee I’ve seen people lose their cool here so many times I’d be here through eternity trying to count them, but I’ve never once seen you tell anyone else that they lose their argument when they lose their cool. I guess you figured they’d know you meant that through osmosis?

    By the way, losing an arugment is in the eye of the beholder. I won my argument the minute I set all the overblown losers straight. Stop putting words in my mouth and don’t ever presume to tell me you know what I mean when I am on a totally different track. Talk about the height of arrogance. What it boils down to is that the people who don’t want to look at umpiring but rather want to focus on the team (nothing wrong with that) got their little panties in a bunch because I asked a question about A STATEMENT MADE ABOUT UMPIRING. But little knee jerkers immediately called it something else because of their own anger about the team being at fault and being unequivocally right of course took umbrage at WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS someone shifting the blame. And by the way, too, you (collectively who fit this description) don’t know your asses from your elbows about how the game would have turned out. Talk about presumptious!

    But again, getting this back on track, my concern in asking the question that I did repeatedly had NOTHING to do with whether or not today’s game would have been won, yada yada yada. It had to do with something I have railed about for about the past three years here – unfair umpiring, lack of replay, and MLBs failure to even address it. So when I heard the statement by Sager, I immediately thought something might be under way FOR THE FUTURE.

    If piss-poor umpiring isn’t your gig or your passion, bully for you. It’s mine.

  92. austinmac October 14th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Boss tony,

    Homeland was great tonight. Thins season is very good.

  93. Frozen Rope II October 14th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    The whole swisher thing, sure some of the stuff he’s heard is out of line and people need to realize he is a person too, but its hard to feel too bad for the guy or any player who complains about booing. Or the holier than thou fans who condemn others booing a player. How many times do players remind us that this is a business when they chase the biggest contract?

  94. austinmac October 14th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    *this*

  95. igotid88 October 15th, 2012 at 12:00 am

    Jeremy October 14th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
    The Montero trade is coming back to haunt this team. We don’t have a major league ready catcher who can replace Martin.
    —————–

    And the guys who we traded to Detroit are hurting us so far. And Girardi barely used Montero last year in the postseason. There were times he could had pinch hit him for Martin late in the game.

  96. Boss Tony N October 15th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Thanks austinmac. Im excited to watch it, ive got that, Good Wife, and Walking Dead on the DVR

  97. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    “I don’t think calling every body here a ‘mental midget’ that don’t post what you want them to post, and then say, “you’ll post whatever you want and how date they tell you what to post” isn’t hypocritical.. nope, for sure not. No offense Trisha but name calling, really ? You’re also one of the worst offenders trying to dictate what people are allowed to post or not here.. talk about the pot calling the kettle .. yadda yadda yadda.

    but what is really comical is you choose to focus on the ump being at fault and ignore the fact that the team can’t hit at all.. talk about that name you just called every body else. Keep on truckin’ kiddo..”

    *****************

    It is apparent you didn’t bother reading my posts or you wouldn’t have written your NONRESPONSE. You are a clear example of the kind of person I’m talking about.

    And your grammar is atrocious. Guess they don’t emphasize clear and concise writing freshman year in college, P…

  98. Frozen Rope II October 15th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Can we please get tori hunter on a one or two year deal for right field?

    Is catcher kurt suzuki up for free agency? Even if he is not the nats only got him this year cause they got hit with injuries at catcher, maybe he can be had

  99. Nick in SF October 15th, 2012 at 12:03 am

    CR: no, I have not watched it. People seem to think it’s pretty good.

    Trisha: when you’re spazzing out about mental midgets and railing about a bunch of people not answering some question as if they’re deliberately withholding information from, you, you’ve lost whatever point you’re going on about. All caps don’t help either.

  100. austinmac October 15th, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Trisha,

    It’s not worth the energy. One would think we can all agree the call probably didn’t change the result, but do we really have to put up with clearly egregiously wrong calls?

  101. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:10 am

    Your opinion nick, to which you are welcome. I DON’T AGREE.

    No, the mental midgets were the ones who immediately jumped to the wrong conclusion and then accused me of trying to put this game entirely on the umpire as opposed to what I was really attempting in asking the question.

    A cursory reading of my posts would have made that abundantly clear, let alone a thorough reading. It had nothing to do with spys behind bushes or people DELIBERATELY withholding information from me.

    Here’s the punchline: don’t put words in my mouth. You’ll lose every time if you do.

    And as the saying goes, if the shoe fits at all, wear it. If it doesn’t, well then feel free to go merrily on your way.

  102. Nick in SF October 15th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Oh good grief. Internet anger as coping mechanism. The world will spin on.

    :roll:

  103. jmills October 15th, 2012 at 12:13 am

    Hi Trish! You certanly are, sincere my friend. Somewhere, over, ” we’ll be back in the high life again.” You, me, Steve Winwood, and whoever else wants to come along – YT, Luis,etc etc ( Tyler and Tom too along with Prufrock who reads too many books. :) )

  104. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:16 am

    “Trisha,

    It’s not worth the energy. One would think we can all agree the call probably didn’t change the result, but do we really have to put up with clearly egregiously wrong calls?”

    austin, I am all about the egregiously wrong calls. We’ve seen them affect outcomes of games in the past, certainly not just Yankee games, and affect a team’s entire season. Yet MLB continues to look right past it.

    And I know you know this has been a pet peeve of mine for a long time.

    I have to repeat, only because I think it’s so factually correct as to not be able to be denied, we will never know whether or not the game being 1-0 in the 7th would have changed things. But that is now water under the bridge. And I agree with Girardi, who was apparently really charged up about this. You don’t want this kind of thing happening ever, but certainly not in the postseason.

    Erratic strike zones, blown calls – potential missed opportunities. Yet people (not everyone) go whistling on their way as if it doesn’t exist and decide to lay it all on the team. That’s the behavior that’s allowed MLB to sit and contemplate their freakin’ navels. If the fans aren’t up in arms, fannies will fill the seats.

    Thanks for addressing this though. I appreciate it.

  105. Jerkface October 15th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    You realize a yankee fans high life comes at your direct expense?

  106. LGY October 15th, 2012 at 12:20 am

    Wow. Just now checking the score from the game.

    Never been happier to miss seeing a playoff game. This offense is beyond pathetic.

  107. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:21 am

    “Oh good grief. Internet anger as coping mechanism. The world will spin on.”

    If I ever get to your rarefied air, maybe I too will be impervious to issues of fairness and just you know, write off anyone else’s outrage about it as, well internet anger as coping mechanism.

    Talk about :roll:

  108. LGY October 15th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    What a performance by KURODA. Shameful the offense could not back him up.

  109. jmills October 15th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    I’m all for robots supplementing umps. I hope their ( ump’s ) union doesn’t get in the way. Get the best call possible.

    Sorry, guys – Nick and Trish, I am sad to see the both of you up in arms :(

  110. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:25 am

    jmills – :)

    Thanks. And yes, I know we’ll be back in the high life again!

    In the meantime, I will continue to speak out for things that need a voice given to them – such as totally egregious umpiring and the unequivocal effect it has on games and seasons. (this is a baseball forum, right?) Or put another way, pitchers should only be required to get 27 outs in a 9-inning game. How about it!

    ;)

  111. LGY October 15th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    One positive from this postseason is that now I won’t be even remotely annoyed when they let Swisher walk.

  112. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    jmills, it’s okay. Tomorrow’s a new day and I’m not known to stalk posts or, without provocation, attempt to perpetuate a grudge match. nick isn’t that way either. So this too shall pass.

    You’re a sensitive soul. I really like that about you.

  113. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    I’m all for robots supplementing umps. I hope their ( ump’s ) union doesn’t get in the way. Get the best call possible.

    All I want. Then where the chips fall, they fall.

  114. LGY October 15th, 2012 at 12:30 am

    Wait. Phil Coke got a 6 out save? Please tell me that’s not real.

  115. Nick in SF October 15th, 2012 at 12:30 am

    jmills, I’m not up in arms; I was giving good advice but everyone has to deal with rage and grief in their own way.

  116. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:31 am

    “Wait. Phil Coke got a 6 out save? Please tell me that’s not real.”

    Yeah. Phil Coke. Talk about dismal.

  117. Boss Tony N October 15th, 2012 at 12:32 am

    Although our guys might be overmatched by their minor leaguers.

  118. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    If anything happened to the Tigers where they were unable to play (say their bus got hijacked and nobody could find them for the next five months) I would say that the game would have to be defaulted. I don’t know if there is a specific rule regarding that but it just seems to make sense.

  119. jmills October 15th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Nick, I’m an expert at dealing with rage and grief :) I’ve been doing it so long, I’ve forgotten the approach. One thing I know, ….I have to get up tomorrow which is now, today.

  120. Bo knows October 15th, 2012 at 12:36 am

    Well, Coke was getting strikes called to LH batters a good six inches off the plate.

  121. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:39 am

    jmills – powering down sounds like a good idea to me. I am going to watch some DVRd episodes of Who Wants to Be A Millionaire, focus on attempting to answer the questions, and then on the morrow (figuratively since it is already the morrow) look foreward with hope.

    :)

    Night all.

  122. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    “Well, Coke was getting strikes called to LH batters a good six inches off the plate.”

    note to myself: breathe, breathe, breathe.

    AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

  123. Tyler October 15th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    Who Wants to Be a Millionaire is still on tv?

  124. Bo knows October 15th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    I’m still savoring the Swisher tuck and roll in game #1. What was that all about? Bitter taste all around. Lost a line drive in the lights, eh? And now, he’s turned sensitive.

  125. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Yes. It’s on in the daytime with Meredith Vieira as host. They have back-to-back shows. One seems to be reruns from last year, and the other seems to be current. They have a new format too (new to me once I started watching it again, though it might be quite old.) In case you didn’t know, they now shuffle the questions and then shuffle the money so that an easy question might end up being worth $25,000 and an extremely difficult one $100.

  126. jmills October 15th, 2012 at 12:46 am

    Night all! Have better , ” dreams,” than fleetwood mac :)

  127. Bo knows October 15th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    The thing that bothers me most about Swisher is that all of September he showed his true talent level. He played within himself, produced quality at bats and looked like he cleared that final hurdle. Oops. ODed on Red Bull.

  128. Tyler October 15th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    sounds interesting. I knew that Viera was the host but I hadn’t even heard a mention of the show for several years now.

  129. Boss Tony N October 15th, 2012 at 12:49 am

    Someone accurately described that reviled human Swisher.

    He doesnt take the game or his job seriously

  130. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 12:50 am

    If the Tigers blew up in a plane, the Yankees would still lose the World Series, via shutout every game.

  131. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    The positives:

    The sooner we lose, the sooner Swisher gets dumped, and possibly, (hopefully) Granderson.

  132. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:52 am

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....now-101412

    Certainly not written by a Yankee lover but definitely worth the read.

  133. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 12:52 am

    So what does Cano have to say for him to set the record for most Hitless streak in postseason

  134. jacksquat October 15th, 2012 at 12:53 am

    igotid88 October 14th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
    I know it’s not much. But A-Rod’s last 2 at bats are giving me some hope he’;; break out of it

    His hit was against a lhp, again. All his hits in the postseason are against lhp. Since Detroit has all righthanded starters, I’m not optimistic.

  135. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 12:54 am

    Tyler, I’m pretty sure it’s national ABC. It’s on at 10 and 10:30 a.m. It used to be 4 and 4:30 p.m.

  136. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 12:54 am

    Who cares if the umpires blew the call or not, yankees would still have lost. They dont have Ibanez to bail them out anymore, tigers r straight up walking him or just pitching around him.

  137. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 12:56 am

    More blame should be focused onto the player than the umpires

  138. Irreverent Discourse October 15th, 2012 at 12:57 am

    A lot of you guys wrote this team off as a failure before ST was finished. Remember that?

    The fact that some of you are still posting here, surprised by it… seems a bit nuts to me.

  139. jacksquat October 15th, 2012 at 1:02 am

    Of course Ibanez was going to be walked with Martin behind him.

  140. jacksquat October 15th, 2012 at 1:03 am

    And yes, Joe is right about one thing, the game is played differently 1-0 than 3-0. Maybe he should apply that thought to his bullpen use.

  141. Jerkface October 15th, 2012 at 1:04 am

    And yes, Joe is right about one thing, the game is played differently 1-0 than 3-0. Maybe he should apply that thought to his bullpen use.

    lol

  142. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 1:05 am

    “Who cares if the umpires blew the call or not, yankees would still have lost. They dont have Ibanez to bail them out anymore, tigers r straight up walking him or just pitching around him.”

    Not a question because they haven’t scored runs in the 9th in games where they were losing, especially by a score of 1-0…

    :roll:

  143. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:06 am

    at this point u play ibanez in the field and u DH Nunez, u need to do something cant rely on granderson swisher and arod to come thru. They had their chances already

  144. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 1:06 am

    “We work really hard to get to this point. I don’t have a problem with their effort. He hustled, he tried to get there. I understand that, but it’s an easy thing. It takes 30 seconds. It’s easy. You hear how quickly a crowd reacts.”

    Infante scored Detroit’s second run after the blown call and the Tigers added one more.

    It was the second blown call to go against the Yankees in the series. On Saturday, Cano was called out at first base by Rob Drake on a double play that ended the first inning. Replays showed Cano was safe and the Yankees lost in 12 innings.

    “In this day and age when we have instant replay available to us, it’s got to change,” Girardi said. “These guys are under tremendous amounts of pressure. It is a tough call for him because the tag is underneath and it’s hard for him to see.

    “I’m not saying if Robbie Cano is safe last night it changes the game. The outcome may be the same but I like to take my chances. There is more pressure on the pitchers when it is 1-0 in the eighth inning and your club is hitting than 3-0.”

  145. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:08 am

    So they cant score for about 13 innings and u expect them to all of sudden wake up and score in the 9th?

  146. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 1:09 am

    Which isn’t to say that the offense hasn’t been dreadful. However, a win is a win and if the Yankees won a game 2-1, Yankee fans would take it in NYC heartbeat.

  147. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:10 am

    I would be far more upset with these blown calls if the Yanks were like, hitting, and puting runs on the board, and these calls actually swayed the game. But even if the Yanks got every call in their favor, they would still lose the game as their bats can’t hit the side of a building.

  148. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:12 am

    As impressed as I am with Ibanez, how telling is it that this high powered team has to constantly rely on ninth inning heroics by their 40 year old bench player to win. It is pathetic actually.

  149. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:12 am

    they weren’t going to score 2 runs….

  150. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:14 am

    Girardi could radically change the lineup a la Billy Martin, and it will not do a damn thing, as Verlander will surgically slice up this impotent lineup with 100 mph fastballs and 70 mph curveballs.

  151. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:15 am

    u didnt watch the 9th inning how easily Coke just mow the yankees down

  152. Boss Tony N October 15th, 2012 at 1:16 am

    People will easily forget this… we won Game 1 5-4 in 9 innings. And Cano doesnt own the postseason record hitless streak. He got an rbi base hit in Gm 1

  153. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 1:16 am

    “So they cant score for about 13 innings and u expect them to all of sudden wake up and score in the 9th?”

    Here’s what I expect. Accurate calls. Then we see what happens from there. As Girardi said, it’s easier for a pitcher to pitch with a 3-0 score than a 1-0 score. A mistake pitch could have been taken out of the yard.

    I’m not haughty, arrogant, or ridiculous enough to say I know the Yankees would have won the game if that call hadn’t been blown – unlike some posters here who have assured us the Yankees would have lost anyway. Nostradamus and crew. But I certainly would have liked to have seen the outcome without “benefit” of the blown call.

  154. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:18 am

    ok i guess u didnt watch the 9th

  155. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:23 am

    Enough with the blown call excuses – the pitchers could throw underhanded to these hitters and they would still swing and miss, screwing themselves into the ground in the process.

  156. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:24 am

    Great teams know how to win in spite of bad calls. The simple answer is that the Yankees 2012 team is not a great team.

  157. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:24 am

    Enough with the blown call excuses – the pitchers could throw underhanded to these hitters and they would still swing and miss, screwing themselves into the ground in the process.
    —————-
    exactly, Sanchez was hanging pitches left and right and they didnt do anything to him

  158. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 1:25 am

    “u” did watch the 9th. I guess “u” still don’t get the difference between a pitcher pitching with a 1-0 score and a 3-0 score. And Ichirco, Tex, and Ibanez were up in the next two innings after the blown play, all of whom have been putting wood on the ball. “u” don’t know what might have happened with a 1-0 score as opposed to a 3-0 score. Neither do I. But again, I would have like to see it play out properly.

  159. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:25 am

    Great teams know how to win in spite of bad calls. The simple answer is that the Yankees 2012 team is not a great team.
    ————–
    they dont even need to be a great team to win…. if they just had a mediocre offense i think we r up 2-0 rather than down 0-2

  160. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:30 am

    This is what would have happened if the Yankees had preserved the 1-0 score – Yankees top of the inning:

    Strike Out
    Strike Out
    Strike Out

    Yankees shut out.

  161. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:32 am

    “they dont even need to be a great team to win…. if they just had a mediocre offense i think we r up 2-0 rather than down 0-2″

    ____________________

    True, because even mediocre offenses put the ball in play. We can’t even call the Yankees offense medicore, they are just abject failures.

  162. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:32 am

    Even if they got the bases loaded 0 out, u really think arod granderson swisher are coming thru? thats a black hole in the lineup, everything yankees try to rally that part of the lineup just kills it right away

  163. jacksquat October 15th, 2012 at 1:33 am

    1919 Black Sox players in on the fix:

    Chick Gandil .233
    Happy Felsch .192
    Swede Risberg .080

    2012 Yankees:

    Nick Swisher .154
    Alex Rodriguez .130
    Curtis Granderson .115
    Robinson Cano .063

    No fix of course with today’s salaries, but that just shows how pathetic The Phantom Four have been. Collectively hitting worse than guys who were throwing games…

  164. NYYanksFan October 15th, 2012 at 1:36 am

    Tiger’s saying Oakland fans and Stadium more intimidating than Yankees.

  165. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 15th, 2012 at 1:36 am

    Right Maxy – they would have skipped the 8th and gone right to the 9th!

    :roll:

    **************

    “exactly, Sanchez was hanging pitches left and right and they didnt do anything to him”

    Sanchez wasn’t in during the 8th and 9th.

    They didn’t do much yesterday either when the score was 4-0 going into the 9th. I’m sure both of you geniuses knew they weren’t going to do anything in the 9th yesterday either.

    I don’t particularly care to drag this on with you. If I’m going to take time out of my life it’s going to be with people who are intelligent enough to know they have no way of knowing the outcome of any game with blown calls unless they had the benefit of seeing it played out without the bad calls.

    But keep insisting you knew the outcome regardless.

    It’s one thing to postulate it PROBABLY wouldn’t have made a difference, if that’s what you truly believe. It’s quite another to say you know how it would have ended.

    Don’t waste your time on a baseball forum. You should be out making serious money predicting the future.

  166. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:37 am

    U just cant have 9th inning major everyday, they had it yesterday and they fail to capitalize because of their fail offense

  167. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:37 am

    1919 Black Sox players in on the fix:

    Chick Gandil .233
    Happy Felsch .192
    Swede Risberg .080

    2012 Yankees:

    Nick Swisher .154
    Alex Rodriguez .130
    Curtis Granderson .115
    Robinson Cano .063

    No fix of course with today’s salaries, but that just shows how pathetic The Phantom Four have been. Collectively hitting worse than guys who were throwing games…

    ———————————–

    HAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for the laugh JackSquat! This is beyond pathetic – I don’t know what to say to this stat. Are you telling me that guys who went out of their way to suck on purpose actually did better than these current guys who are trying? Oh my goodness!

  168. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:39 am

    And this is what the ninth for the Yankees would have looked like:

    Meek groundout to pitcher
    Strike out
    Strike out

    Shut out preserved for Tigers.

  169. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:40 am

    they should just bunt the ball, at least they have a higher chance of getting on base

  170. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:40 am

    The current Yankees Stadium is a morgue compared to the old stadium. Visiting teams are not afraid of this place anymore, like the days of past.

  171. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:42 am

    Tuesday:

    High Strikeout Pitcher + Team That Constantly Strikes Out = Automatic Yankees Loss

  172. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:43 am

    Sanchez wasn’t in during the 8th and 9th.

    They didn’t do much yesterday either when the score was 4-0 going into the 9th. I’m sure both of you geniuses knew they weren’t going to do anything in the 9th yesterday either.

    I don’t particularly care to drag this on with you. If I’m going to take time out of my life it’s going to be with people who are intelligent enough to know they have no way of knowing the outcome of any game with blown calls unless they had the benefit of seeing it played out without the bad calls.

    But keep insisting you knew the outcome regardless.

    It’s one thing to postulate it PROBABLY wouldn’t have made a difference, if that’s what you truly believe. It’s quite another to say you know how it would have ended.

    Don’t waste your time on a baseball forum. You should be out making serious money predicting the future.
    ————–
    Ur so right if umpires dont blow it YANKEES WOULD HAVE WON THE GAME THEN they would hit 5 HR off verlander and win it in 5 games. true story

  173. Locke October 15th, 2012 at 1:44 am

    JackSquat – that’s hilarious. Wow. They are so bad. I know it won’t happen but we could bench all four of them and play Chavez, Nunez, Nix, Ibanez and Gardner with CC at DH

  174. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:44 am

    Look in their eyes, this team, save a few, do not have any life in their eyes. Its a shame that we have to go to the NL, which will probably produce the WS champion again, to see impassioned play.

  175. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:45 am

    Tuesday:

    High Strikeout Pitcher + Team That Constantly Strikes Out = Automatic Yankees Loss
    ——-
    the tigers should just rest verlander for the world series, throw out any scrub pitcher u think the results would be any different?

  176. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:45 am

    The National League is absolutely superior to the American League in every respect; I am convinced of this now.

  177. Duh Innings II October 15th, 2012 at 1:47 am

    theREALkevin October 14th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Phil Hughes pitching in a must win game. Not CC Sabathia. Phil Hughes. Girardi will never understand how to manage in the playoffs. There’s no sense of urgency. This is like a game 7 for the Yankees, if you go down 0-3 it’s over, and you have Phil Hughes pitching. I mean the quotes today about the relievers- it’s a joke. The guy is more worried about pitchers being tired than winning the ALCS. Now is NOT the time to be worried about overworking guys. He’s still managing like he’s trying to navigate his way through the regular season. You have to totally empty the tank in these short playoff series. Girardi just simply does not understand this, and it has already hurt, and will continue to do so. They need better managing if they’re going to overcome their offensive shortcomings and Joe is once again coming up small.

    ———————————————

    Thank you. It would be ridiculous for the Yanks to start their worst starter vs. the Tigers’ ace and risk an 0-3.

    ‘Know what the Yanks should do this offseason?

    Look for a good thirdbaseman blocked by whoever’s with the big club, find him, trade for him, have him be the everyday 3B for the rookie minimum, and bench A-Rod who can learn 1B and RF in his downtime and make a list of teams not in the division he wants to be traded to. He can forget the Tigers who’ll need DH open for Fielder one day, the Angels who’ll need DH for Pujols one day, and the following AL teams who could never afford to take on his contract: those two, Kansas City, Minnesota, Cleveland, Oakland, and Texas (who he’d never go back to.)

  178. UnKnown October 15th, 2012 at 1:48 am

    Hey how was Kuroda? Still concerned over him starting on only 3 days rest.

    By all means though keep worrying about him, I mean there can’t possibly be anything else wrong with the team right now to worry about.

  179. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 1:52 am

    Hey how was Kuroda? Still concerned over him starting on only 3 days rest.

    By all means though keep worrying about him, I mean there can’t possibly be anything else wrong with the team right now to worry about.
    ————-
    nop just the usual 0-4 for Granderson arod swisher and cano. nothing to worry about here

  180. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 1:58 am

    “the tigers should just rest verlander for the world series, throw out any scrub pitcher u think the results would be any different?”

    —————————————-

    But I think that Verlander would probably want to put in some easy work before the World Series.

  181. BobbyJones October 15th, 2012 at 2:01 am

    Verlander would probably get 20 strikeouts, he would have probably give and take 15 strikeout alone from cano arod swisher and granderson

  182. MaxyC October 15th, 2012 at 2:03 am

    Swisher and Granderson deserve to rot in baseball hell with the Houston Astros.

  183. UnKnown October 15th, 2012 at 2:34 am

    (Don’t think this went unnoticed, either. It wasn’t just the ushers instructed to fill in empty seats so the crowd looked better on TV. The players can tell, too.
    “This is a very easy place to play now,” Tigers outfielder Quintin Berry said. “Coming from Oakland, the fans there were so rowdy. It was easier to come here.”)

    ——————–

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/y.....-alcs.html

  184. Wang IS Taiwan October 15th, 2012 at 5:40 am

    Swisher is freakin’ baby. Can you imagine Jeter whining like like that? Does Swisher even acknowledge how BAD he’s been during the playoffs for us?????

    GET HIM OFF THE TEAM!

  185. Wang IS Taiwan October 15th, 2012 at 5:43 am

    And Chad — PLEASE no more from Swisher. We don’t freakin’ care what he has to say!

  186. Tidrow October 15th, 2012 at 6:01 am

    I’ll take peoples complaint about blown calls seriously when they demand it after a brutal call goes in their teams’ favor. To be complaining about calls when your team loses and is playing like crap seems like sour grapes and sore losing to me.

  187. Purenyyankee October 15th, 2012 at 7:18 am

    The most disgraceful Yankees team OFFENSIVELY I can ever remember. Good riddance Swisher. Take your ACT and all the “man” and “bro” comments over to Flushing. You are a fraud. I don’t like ARod, but he said it best, “We haven’t scored a run in a long time. I’m right there with them. You can’t blame them.” He gets it! Swisher doesn’t have a clue. I’m fed up. Please find a taker for Grander-K. ARod is ARod and we are stuck with him for 5 more years. I have said it all year. Live by the HR and Die by the HR. It’s a very quick death in the ALCS by a bunch of phony, selfish, pretenders.

  188. LGY October 15th, 2012 at 7:30 am

    No fix of course with today’s salaries, but that just shows how pathetic The Phantom Four have been. Collectively hitting worse than guys who were throwing games…

    ——–

    Hilarious

  189. blake October 15th, 2012 at 7:35 am

    If the Yankees could somehow miraculously beat Verlander tomorrow then it’s a big momentum swing with CC going in game 4….and you have a chance…..if they win tomorrow somehow then it’s a series….if they lose then it won’t go back to NY.

    The Yankees have to finally address this offense in the winter….they have to get more contact in their lineup….

    Offer Swisher the qualifying offer to get the draft pick….let him go when he asks for Werth money (lol)…..trade

    Granderson for max return….try to get a young position player (OF, SS , or 3B) back in the deal.

    Gotta go hard after Justin Upton or Headley and try to get one of those two…..or some other prime age bat that’s under the radar…..

    Hope to goodness you can get Andy and kuroda back.

    I’d consider making Martin the qualifying offer as well ….I know many think that’s crazy but it would guarantee the term stays one year and they can remain flexible for 2014 even if its a big over pay for 2013…..

    Depending on how the rest of the OF shakes out Id probably bring back Ichiro

    Big decisions ….ones that’ll determine the yanks fate for years to come

  190. Carlo October 15th, 2012 at 7:38 am

    When I awoke this morning, the first thought that came to mind was the following:

    “robinson cano broke a record for postseason futility in a game that is over 100 years old, and I cant say, without a doubt, that he is one of the top 3 worst performers on our team this postseason”.

  191. LGY October 15th, 2012 at 7:40 am

    I didn’t see the game but I can’t get over how well KURODA pitched on 3 days rest. Hiroick performance. Man, F this offense.

  192. blake October 15th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    LGY says:
    October 15, 2012 at 7:40 am
    I didn’t see the game but I can’t get over how well KURODA pitched on 3 days rest. Hiroick performance. Man, F this offense.

    And most folks wanted to start Phelps……Kiroda is mentally tough….he’s a machine…..he doesn’t let things phase him….they have to bring him back

  193. Asd October 15th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    I understand people being mad about failure. I Get that, I’m not sure failure is something players can control as much as everyone here assumes, but I still get it. What I don’t understand is all the “phony” and “not trying” insults. That is ridiculous. These guys are failing at what they love most in life. That must be ripping them apart inside. I guarantee they are trying their hardest, which maybe contributing itself to the troubles. Oh, the pressure must be vile. Maybe the most hypocritical thing about it is the same people who trash Jeter when he fails, are now comparing to him as lord and savior when he was doing well but is injured.

    As for Swishers comments, maybe they weren’t the wisest, I certainly wasn’t insulted by them, but the reaction to them is ridiculous. This is a man who wears his heart on his sleeve, he has always been that way, always. Now 99% percent of the time he’s happy, no mater what. But when he is so bothered about the state of affairs that he says what he feels and it is negative he gets jumped on? Weak. Anyone being honest certainly shouldn’t be called phony, regardless of whether you agree with the comments or not. The guy, regardless of the level of success had given his heart and soul to us, and possibly just played his last game in Yankee Stadium. What did you do fans? You wasted it, absolutely wasted it, he deserved a far greater goodbye in my opinion.

    Call then crap, call them an embarrassment, whatever you want…. But don’t call them phonies. They’re in the ALCS for God sakes… Giving you a lot more than so many other fans get… But then again, Yankee hands are never satiated, are they?

  194. Bobby Murcer October 15th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    Flew back from the west coast and got to watch the entire game on
    satellite TV on the plane. I’m glad the screen was only 4×6 inches,
    because that was the right size for viewing the Yankee at bats.

    I’m not as upset as I normally am at these points because this is what
    we’ve been crying about since mid-July (!). How anyone can be
    surprised by their performance vs. the Orioles and Tigers (so far) is
    beyond me. The surprise would be if they turn this around against the
    2 best Tiger pitchers. But baseball is a funny game and I could see
    both Arod and Cano snapping out of their slumps (not Granderson and
    Swisher – that’s just crazy talk to think they’ll hit over .200 by the end of
    the series even if the Tigers let Cabrera pitch).

    One of the things I’ve come to appreciate the last 10 games is Girardi.
    I’ve criticized him heavily all season long. I still don’t like the lefty-righty
    fetish, but I’ll overlook it now. This team is what it is. They can’t bunt, they
    can’t hit behind runners, they can’t hit and run, etc.. So for me to blame
    Girardi because he won’t play that game is flat out wrong. If I was
    managing them and I called for the hit and run, the hitter would miss, the
    runner would get thrown out and it would just fail.
    Pinch hitting and benching Arod a few days ago took more courage than
    I could ever muster. He’s not getting enough credit for that. I would
    bench Swisher now, but the alternatives aren’t so great. It’s one thing
    to pencil in Chavez for Arod (even though Chavez failed), it’s another to
    replace 20 and 40 homerun guys with Dickerson or a Gardner who hasn’t
    played all year.
    I also like his post season press conferences. He is a man of calm and
    common sense and that’s worth something.
    In short, I don’t want him to go or be replaced. It’s not his fault we have
    4 all-stars or quasi-all-stars who are hitting worse than many NL pitchers.

    It’s those guys that have to answer for the (nearly inevitable at this point)
    failure.

  195. Purenyyankee October 15th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    Asd:

    Get a clue. Have you watched this team? Swisher is a phony. That’s why he was voted, BY HIS MLB PEERS, as such. The problem here is that this team, offensively will NOT change their approach. Even Girardi said it last night. “They must adjust. They are not going to put it on a tee.” I have never seen so many players refuse to hit the ball the other way. Buck Showalter said it best when he was the Yankees manager. “People don’t come here to see the Yankees play, they come to see the Yankees WIN.” The old man is turning over in his grave.

    Enough of the excuses!!!!!

  196. tomingeorgia October 15th, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Asd,
    I fully agree with you, but be careful! Voices of reason can become personae non gratae around here very quickly.

  197. LGY October 15th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Hiroick is the Japanese spelling of heroic, btw.

  198. Carlo October 15th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    “As for Swishers comments, maybe they weren?t the wisest, I certainly wasn?t insulted by them, but the reaction to them is ridiculous. This is a man who wears his heart on his sleeve, he has always been that way, always. Now 99% percent of the time he?s happy, no mater what. But when he is so bothered about the state of affairs that he says what he feels and it is negative he gets jumped on? Weak. Anyone being honest certainly shouldn?t be called phony, regardless of whether you agree with the comments or not. The guy, regardless of the level of success had given his heart and soul to us, and possibly just played his last game in Yankee Stadium. What did you do fans? You wasted it, absolutely wasted it, he deserved a far greater goodbye in my opinion.”
    ———————————————————–

    Deserved a far greater goodbye? Did sheff get a special goodbye? Did Mondesi? Did shane spencer? We arent talking about Paul O’Neill here……we are talking about a guy who has been perhaps the worst offender of playoff futility on our team over the last 4 years. We are talking about a guy who is a showman first and a player second. We are talking about a guy who, when the boos started, he collapsed and turned to the media to voice his displeasure.

  199. Jerkface October 15th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    A vote by his ‘peers’ who don’t actually play with him every day or travel with him is meaningless. Even Michael Kay, who was initially against Swisher’s persona, eventually relented and said that he is a genuine guy. Anyone who has met him has said he is genuine. It may be annoying, but he has genuine love for life.

  200. Purenyyankee October 15th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    I love these rah, rah fans talking about how lucky we are, and we should be so grateful for this and that. Obviously, you can’t be from NY. This is not the gutsy St. Louis Cardinals. A team with no superstars. This pretender group is nothing but superstars who can’t get out of their own way and is an embarassment to this great franchise.

  201. Carlo October 15th, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Bobby Murcer October 15th, 2012 at 8:02 am
    I?m not as upset as I normally am at these points because this is what
    we?ve been crying about since mid-July (!). How anyone can be
    surprised by their performance vs. the Orioles and Tigers (so far) is
    beyond me.

    ———————-

    Agree Bobby, I handle losses as poorly as anyone and this October has been rather sedate by my standards. The handwriting was on the wall. I couldnt believe the yankees were -120 favorites in this series. Just shows what a public team they are. Anyway, In any other year I would be scrambling to see how we get through this mess, breaking down the next few games to find a scenario I could sleep on tonight where we pull this off. This year, nothing. After the Game 1 loss, I basically sucumbed to what I felt all year, this offense simply isnt good enough to win and the worst part is, they aren’t winners….thus their talents actually play smaller on the big stage.

  202. Carlo October 15th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    Jerkface October 15th, 2012 at 8:09 am
    A vote by his ?peers? who don?t actually play with him every day or travel with him is meaningless.

    ——————-

    FWIW, I have numerous people around the organization and in the MLB offices tell me that Swishers act (genuine or not) grew old with teamates long ago. Most find him to be a nice guy, but find his routine tiring and a bit too self promotional.

  203. Jerkface October 15th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Yes I can see it getting tiring, but it isn’t phony. Basically people who are always happy will be annoying in the context of a sport where failure is a large part of it. Which also holds true for blog posters.

  204. Carlo October 15th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Jerkface October 15th, 2012 at 8:18 am
    Yes I can see it getting tiring, but it isn?t phony. Basically people who are always happy will be annoying in the context of a sport where failure is a large part of it. Which also holds true for blog posters.

    —————————————-

    Yes, agree, not phony……but i dont think there will be many tears shed in the clubhouse when he doesnt return.

  205. Asd October 15th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Purenyyankee says: October 15, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Ilove these rah, rah fans talking about how lucky we are, and we should be so grateful for this and that. Obviously, you can’t be from NY. This is not the gutsy St. Louis Cardinals.

    —- -

    I don’t agree with you so clearly I’m not from NYC? That’s how you choose to portray yourself? Not all of us are cynical just because we come from New York, I hope you know that. Passion comes in different forms.

  206. Asd October 15th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Deserved a far greater goodbye? Did sheff get a special goodbye?
    ——-

    I didn’t mean a special one, just not a rude one.

  207. Purenyyankee October 15th, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Asd:

    If you are satisfied with what you have seen, then good for you. I am not satisfied, nor am I happy. I go to 50 games per year, and watch all the rest. What I have seen offensively from this team is disgraceful. And I’m not going to sugarcaot it or be thrilled to be in the ALCS. Go ask Jeter if he is happy they made it this far, if they get knocked out.

  208. Carlo October 15th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Asd October 15th, 2012 at 8:25 am
    Deserved a far greater goodbye? Did sheff get a special goodbye?
    ??-

    I didn?t mean a special one, just not a rude one.

    —————————

    Ok – so do you find the occupy wall st folks to be offensive and rude? They protest and rail against millionaires they dont know, many of whom are very good family people who happened to work hard to get where they are……and they do their jobs and fail sometimes.

  209. Jerkface October 15th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Not sure what the occupy movement has to do with Swisher. Sounds like a false equivalency to me, Carlo.

  210. blake October 15th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    I think Swisher is genuine as well in his personality….I know it annoys a lot of fans but I could care less about that….the issues with him are the contract he will demand and the fact that he does seem to be a player where the big stage of the postseason gets to him…..

    Actually I think the way he plays in October only supports that his personality isn’t “an act”…..he’s just so hyped up and wants to contribute so bad that he can keep his emotions together and it overwhelms him….he presses and the results follow…..it is what it is but I don’t think it’s a small sample issue with him anymore…..I think it’s a real case of the stage being too big for him…..JMO

    They should offer him the qualifying contract and move on if he declines

  211. brianlopez22 October 15th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    I hope Swisher enjoys the Mets next year!

  212. 86w183 October 15th, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Agreed… no parallel whatsoever

    Long time Yankees deserve a great send off. Four year guys deserve a cookie.

    No way I play Swisher, ARod or Granderson tomorrow. Yanks need to try some sort of small ball lineup and small ball approach.

    Ichiro RF, Nix LF, Tex 1B, Ibanez DH, Cano 2B, Martin C, Chavez 3B, Nunez SS, Gardner CF.

    There’s really nothing to lose. This team has scored in just one of 21 innings this series.

  213. JM October 15th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Why is it necessary to bring politics into a baseball forum?

    Swish has been a failure in the playoffs for the four years he’s been here, no doubt. But the Yankees don’t get to the playoffs without him, especially this year when he helped carry them in September.

  214. mick October 15th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    BryanHoch Nick Swisher “disappointed” and “hurt” by what he’s heard from the Bleacher Creatures. Several Yankees looking forward to change of scenery.
    ================================
    He’s a legend in his own mind.
    Be quiet and produce like Kuroda and let your actions speak for you.
    They will not make him a qualifying offer, time to move on and get some gamers.
    This guy is a Paul O’Neill wannabe.
    Paul got his name chanted in his final game.
    That’s what this guy wanted. Ego tripper.

  215. Carlo October 15th, 2012 at 8:47 am

    The parallel is fairly straightforward. Rich folks, that none of you have personal relationships with, but have no problem crucifying when things dont go well that impact you. Its a very simple read through.

  216. austinmac October 15th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    I don’t care about his personality. Swisher has to hit. He doesn’t in pressure situations. It’s not as if he isn’t trying. He will certainly be gone. His replacement will, however, likely be a lesser player.

  217. Jeremy October 15th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    There are plenty of articles on Swisher being upset with the fans booing him and calling him out. Grow the hell up and stop complaining !

    Swisher is one of the worst playoff performers in postseason history, he sucks defensively, and his overall approach to the game sucks. He should feel lucky that this team took him in because he won a World Series ring (despite his horrible play), and has a very good looking wife because he became a somebody when he joined the Yankees. Prior to joining this team the guy was a nobody. Can’t wait till he is gone.

  218. 86w183 October 15th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Carlo, that’s a stretch. “occupiers” are protesting what the perceive as systemic unfairness in the U.S. economy. To say it’s similar to being a slumping player is absurd.

    If fans instead picketed outside Yankee Stadium demanding the release of under performing “star” players then you might have something.

    Swisher has been a very good regular season player for the Yanks…. and a dreadful post-season performer.

    His play just might make the Yanks reluctant to make a qualifying offer because he might accept it and they’d have to pay him $ 13.4 M or thereabouts next season. His whining about booing and mean spirited comments aren’t going to help.

  219. Jeremy October 15th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Another reason why fans are upset is because they know this team/ organization is going downhill and fast. Why do you think people are not showing up to the ballpark ? People can see the handwriting.

    Too much dead old weight on this team.

  220. Against All Odds October 15th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    This is New York we’re talking about. I’m sure it’s more than just boos.

  221. 86w183 October 15th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Carlo, that’s a stretch. “occupiers” are protesting what the perceive as systemic unfairness in the U.S. economy. To say it’s similar to being a slumping player is absurd.

    *************************************************************************

    Make that what THEY perceive —- and similar to BOOING a slumping player

    stupid fingers

  222. Against All Odds October 15th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Well were is the line. If they commented on his poor play or sais he sucks fine but if they made it personal does he not have the right to voice his opinion.

  223. 86w183 October 15th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Just reading his comments it seems to me he was most bothered by comments that his misplay of the line drive led to Jeter’s broken ankle.

  224. Purenyyankee October 15th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Against All Odds:
    The personal comments are wrong. But he should not have gotten the media involved. He cannot win this battle against the fans. Tough as it is, he needed to suck it up and play ball.

  225. Carlo October 15th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    austinmac October 15th, 2012 at 8:51 am
    I don?t care about his personality. Swisher has to hit. He doesn?t in pressure situations. It?s not as if he isn?t trying. He will certainly be gone. His replacement will, however, likely be a lesser player.

    ———————————

    Depends on how you define lesser player. Teams need players with roles……my best description of swisher is that he is duplicative and what he cant do is what this team needs……a guy that can have professional at bats, move runners, make contact with risp when outs mean runs. Those are the things that facilitate a circular offense. Swisher, for the most part, is very similar to multiple other players on this roster.

  226. mick October 15th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    if they made it personal does he not have the right to voice his opinion.
    =======================
    sure since it was his last game here he returned the favor…by saying eff u 2.

  227. Against All Odds October 15th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    Where*

  228. Shame Spencer October 15th, 2012 at 9:07 am

    The invisible man, this way :arrow:

  229. Against All Odds October 15th, 2012 at 9:07 am

    True he can’t win a battle against the fans

  230. mick October 15th, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Just reading his comments it seems to me he was most bothered by comments that his misplay of the line drive led to Jeter’s broken ankle.
    =====================================
    it did.

  231. blake October 15th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    86w183 says:
    October 15, 2012 at 9:03 am
    Just reading his comments it seems to me he was most bothered by comments that his misplay of the line drive led to Jeter’s broken ankle.

    I think Jeter’s ankle was probably going to blow at some point anyway if he played long enough on it….facts are that If Swisher catches two balls Saturday then it probably wouldn’t have been that night but for fans to blame swish for the injury it’s kinda dumb…..but fans are emotional an when their captain and soul of the team goes down (and one of the only guys with a pulse offensively) then they are going to blame somebody …..nick has to have thicker skin

  232. mick October 15th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Swish thinks he’s here to entertain us.
    Would you use a Dr. that had his personality? If he’s gonna be a clown he better produce.
    Why aren’t there more players with a smile on their face all the time?
    Is it a coincidence that his lack of production under pressure indicates a lack of focus.
    Rather see a game face than a clown face…

  233. Purenyyankee October 15th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Its pretty clear. My going to the media and picking a fight with the fans, we all know where his head is at, and we can see the lack of focus. Ichiro is our Right Fielder next year.

  234. J. Alfred Prufrock October 15th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Want someone who can lay off breaking balls in the dirt and can hit a curve or change? Someone who knows how to stay short to the ball with two strikes, and who can protect the plate?

    Want someone who doesn’t shrivel in “the moment” but who yearns for it?

    Melky Cabrera for RF in 2013.

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