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Rain out notes: “Doesn’t matter what they throw at us”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Oct 17, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

When Major League Baseball started this game in a delay, it seemed to be benefit the Yankees. The last thing they needed was to have CC Sabathia’s first ALCS appearance cut short by a mid-game rain delay. By the time this game was rained out and postponed until tomorrow, the advantage shifted the other way.

Sabathia will start tomorrow, and with the Yankees needing to win four games in four days, Sabathia will not make another start in this series. Brian Cashman said he wouldn’t even consider it if Sabathia asked.

“No,” Cashman said. “I’m not thinking that far ahead, let’s just worry about tomorrow. If we take care of business tomorrow then we can worry about the next day. I want to be in a position to do that.”

Of course it’s premature to ask questions about a Game 7 when this Yankees team has yet to win a single game this series, but the only way for the Yankees to advance is to force a seventh game. The Yankees might have to focus on one game at a time, but nothing else matters unless this series keeps going until Sunday.

“It doesn’t matter what they throw at us, we have to find a way,” Cashman said. “It’s all about winning our next game, then we’ll worry about the day after and the day after. Whatever the schedule turns out to be, it doesn’t matter. We will find a way. We have no choice.”

Starting Sabathia only once in a seven-game series. Is that a bad break?

“I thought the first three games were bad breaks, the way they unfolded for us,” Cashman said. “It really doesn’t matter. Nothing matters other than getting our team in a position to play to the best of its abilities and get in that win column. That’s all that matters. What day it happens to come on and what the schedule turns out to be, none of that matters. What matters is us finding a way to get the job done starting tomorrow instead of today.”

• Cashman said he was heavily involved in the decision to delay and then postpone tonight’s game, and he agreed with the decision. “I think it was an obvious decision based on what the radar was,” Cashman said. “It was going to be an unplayable situation.”

• By the way, it just started raining a little bit ago and still hasn’t really started to come down as hard as the radar suggests. If a rain delay had occurred when the rain started, I have to guess that would have been around the sixth inning.

• As the Yankees players association representative, Curtis Granderson said he was kept up to speed on the league’s decision-making process, but the players had no say. “They were just letting us know and updating us as to what was going on,” Granderson said. “There was a meeting at one time, and then another meeting, and then the storm, and they finally ended up making the decision.”

• On being held out of the lineup: “That’s just baseball being baseball,” Granderson said. “You’ve got to go with whatever you can. You mix guys up, move guys up and down, guys in, guys out, and that’s part of it. This isn’t the first time this lineup has changed. I’m a speaking example of it. I’ve batted in pretty much every spot all season long. So it’s not the first time.”

• Nick Swisher on being back in the lineup tonight: “This is my favorite thing in the world to do,” Swisher said. “To get back in there, especially after last night, I was ready today.”

• What was the feeling like in the clubhouse during the delay? “We’re all kind of in here just relaxing, trying to get that vibe back,” Swisher said. “Tomorrow’s going to be a big game and we’re going to be ready for it.”

• The Yankees didn’t say whether they would stick with the same lineup, but the Tigers are sticking with Max Scherzer as their starter.

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222 Responses to “Rain out notes: “Doesn’t matter what they throw at us””

  1. Wang IS Taiwan October 17th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    Ugh. Swisher. Who cares what he has to say?

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    “Sabathia will start tomorrow, and with the Yankees needing to win four games in four days, Sabathia will not make another start in this series. Brian Cashman said he wouldn’t even consider it if Sabathia asked.

    “No,” Cashman said. “I’m not thinking that far ahead, let’s just worry about tomorrow. If we take care of business tomorrow then we can worry about the next day. I want to be in a position to do that.””

    Somehow doesn’t sound like an unequivical “no” to me. And we all know Cashman has been known to change his mind. And maybe CC doesn’t start but gets to go in, in relief.

    I’m with Cashman however. Let’s take one day at a time. Play tomorrow, win tomorrow.

  3. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    i’m just bumming that there’s no game. i was getting pretty fired up for yankees baseball!

  4. talltenor October 17th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    But will Rodriguez be in the lineup or not? Gotta think there will be a lot of pressure on Girardi to put him in there, at least from some directions.

  5. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    I hear ya. What’s annoying to me is that I’m going to be at a conference for the next two days and will have to see what the situation is in terms of being able to watch the game, get to a computer, etc. But mainly I like watching the game in the comforts of my own home. I’m supposed to stay overnight but I may make the trek back and forth if it means I get to see the game here. And I always sleep better in my own bed, so there’s that.

  6. Bret The Hitman October 17th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    This is a really fascinating website if you’re bored.

    http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

  7. JobaTipsHisCap October 17th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Any news on arod? Lol

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    “The one thing I will give Joe a lot of credit is, he’s been very good to me over the years, so he has a lot of equity with me,” Rodriguez said. “And for me, it’s just tough. I’m a competitor. It’s all I’ve known since I was 5 years old. My dad played baseball as well, and I love to compete.

    “I really feel that in my heart, any time I’m in that lineup, the team is a better team, without any question. We’ll disagree there to the end, but I like Joe. I support Joe. Our job right now is to come together like a family. There’s tons of distractions, there’s a lot of wedges trying to be driven between us, and it’s not going to happen.”

    Rodriguez said that despite the issues that have spoiled his postseason, he can still see a future playing in New York with the Yankees.

    “I love the Yankees — I love this organization,” Rodriguez said. “My focus right now is to help this team come together and win a game. Let’s just focus on winning a game.”

    *****************

    Seems to me that fans are in more of a twist over this than Arod is. He’s at least being professional and grown up about it. The manager makes the decision and makes it in what he considers to be the best interest of winning. And for every fan who feels Arod should be in the lineup, there’s a fan who feels he shouldn’t. For every fan who feels there’s a conspiracy under foot, there’s a fan who feels this is strictly about baseball.

    You know what I say? Que sera, sera. I’ll be there to cheer the team on no matter what decisions are made.

  9. jacksquat October 17th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    JF, the stats I posted were vs RHP only. I thought that’s what we were talking about? Why would be talk about overall stats when they are facing rhp?

  10. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    ‘joe’s been really good to me over the years.’

    ‘he has alot of equity with me.’

    doesnt sound like some unhealable rift.

    still i’d rather see him in the lineup.

  11. jacksquat October 17th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    blake October 17th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
    @BNightengale: The #Yankees must part with ARod http://t.co/w54HMa3i

    So much exaggeration to get attention in the news today.

  12. Barry October 17th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    If there is one rain out, why not several. No one knows what happens meteorlogically speaking.

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    “If there is one rain out, why not several. No one knows what happens meteorlogically speaking.”

    True dat.

  14. munson15 October 17th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Espn is just killing Arod. Shocking, I know. I think he has handled this mess pretty good.

  15. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    im just gonna say this before i go to sleep

    i dont give up. i dont concede anything to the tigers. i do accept that this series isn’t coming back to ny.

    and i don’t care for anyone who does. and i dont care for anyone who is wishing the yankees PS would end, whether they call themselves yankees fans or not.

    and i refuse to consider offseason trades and signings until it’s the offseason.

    and it is not the offseason.

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    According to weather.com, Detroit has a 90% chance of showers tomorrow morning, with a mixture of sun and clouds in the afternoon, and a 30% chance of showers tomorrow night. Friday has a 60% chance or rain throughout the day and then into the evening.

    Anyone’s guess as to whether the weather would permit a Game 5 on Friday!

  17. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    sorry i *don’t accept that this series isn’t coming back to ny. (in fact im making plans to be at game 6!)

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!

  18. Tar October 17th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    “It seems like Rodriguez has been the scapegoat, but Brian Cashman pointed out that Rodriguez’s struggles are not the small sample size that we’ve seen from guys like Swisher and Robinson Cano. Rodriguez has struggled against right handers all year, got much worse in the past month and a half, and has been awful in the playoffs.”

    If I am reading this correctly this is what Cashman said. Although I don’t see quotes.

    But if it is, that’s my beef right there. Just say we wanted Chavez vs the RH pitcher.
    Why get into,”struggle all year” “not a small sample size” and finally comparing Alex to Swish and Cano. Just say we wanted Chavez the LH bat in the line-up. Why throw the extra stuff at Alex when this has to difficult enough already?

    Cashman is so Red Soxian when it comes to treating veterans with respect. Just shut up Brian.

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Y’s Guy – I definitely don’t concede that this series isn’t coming back to NY! I don’t concede that for a minute! Until the last out of the last game to be played in this ALCS, I will believe in my heart and soul that the Yankees are capable of winning it. And I mean that with every fiber of my being.

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Y’s Guy – YOU SCARED ME!

  21. Bronx Jeers October 17th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Maybe it can rain forever in Detroit.

  22. Irreverent Discourse October 17th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    Bret – That website is hilarious.

  23. Ys Guy October 17th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    trisha you rock! night all!

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    Tar – I definitely think that Chad was editorializing!

    (Chad says) It seems like Rodriguez has been the scapegoat, but Brian Cashman pointed out that Rodriguez’s struggles are not the small sample size that we’ve seen from guys like Swisher and Robinson Cano. (Chad says) Rodriguez has struggled against right handers all year, got much worse in the past month and a half, and has been awful in the playoffs.

  25. tampayank October 17th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Even if the plan is to shop AROD I think it’s disrespectful what they have done to him. The lineup earlier today looks more what you would expect in March, just a shame to see how Cashman and Girardi have handled this series & postseason

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Y’s Guy – MAJORLY back atcha!

    Have a good night.

    :)

  27. Jerkface October 17th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    JF, the stats I posted were vs RHP only. I thought that’s what we were talking about? Why would be talk about overall stats when they are facing rhp?

    Lets defuse this situation. I agree with the decision to start chavez over a-rod, because of the splits you posted & because of how A-rod looked. I merely pointed out that Chavez’s OPS, which was overall OPS cited not vs RHP only, is higher than A-rod’s because of his strict platooning and limited play. I wasn’t referring to right hand split only.

  28. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    Well I guess I’ll take advantage of my DVRd television programs because I feel I will be hunkering down to watch Yankee baseball for a while yet to come in the ALCS!

    Night all!

    :)

  29. Wang IS Taiwan October 17th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    The team is what’s important — not someone’s ego, and Arod can’t hit righties. Period.

    But Cashman went over the line. He’s been a jerk with a lot of players, particularly Jorge and Jeter. I’m not surprised he said what he did.

  30. Tar October 17th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Thanks Trish

    I guess I was confused, if that is accurate then I retract my statement. Actually I redirect it to Chad, Just shut up already! J/K :D

    And I haven’t given up on this year either. I have no idea why I think we have a chance , but I do.

    I’m tired Good night Yankee fans.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    What did Cashman say that was so wrong??? This is the entire interview!

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  32. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Tar – it was easy to misunderstand that. But I went back and read what Chad said and it made sense that it was Chad’s addition to the story, because there were no quotes. Then I went and re-read the interview.

    :)

    My post at 11:36 was for Wang.

    Have a good night, bucko!

    You rock too, my friend.

    :D

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 17th, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Well that’s all the news that’s fit to print!

    Night-o.

    :)

  34. Bronx Jeers October 17th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    That story about Arod to the Marlins may be total BS but it came from somewhere in the organization.

  35. Jerzz October 17th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    ARod is gonna be here next year and he’s gonna play great for us.

  36. Nick in SF October 18th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    I’m intrigued by the Puppetmaster theories.

    “The fingers creeping up my spine are not mine to resist, strict time.”

  37. smurfy October 18th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Swish, we’re counting on you, and your mates. Go, Yankees!

  38. Duh Innings II October 18th, 2012 at 12:46 am

    If MLB would award the teams a damn travel day between Games 5 and 6, CC could start Game 7 on three days of rest.

    The teams didn’t want last night off to rest, they wanted it off so the game wouldn’t be stopped and starters wouldn’t be burned in them.

  39. Chase October 18th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    I really am bummed about how Alex is being made the scapegoat of this ENTIRE LINEUP’s putrid offensive display.

    He broke his hand months ago, probably not 100%, but will never to admit it. He had started swinging the bat very well, barrelling up everything right before Felix’s changeup hit his hand.

    Nobody seems to have any perspective at all. The guy single-handedly won us our ONLY World Series Championship in over a decade.

    This gut punch to his ego will serve as incredible motivation this offseason for him. We all know he has an insane work ethic, and I think the embarrassment of the entire nation taking pot shots at him will give him a drive he hasn’t had in a bit. Maybe after he got the monkey off his back in 2009 he started to relax and maybe take things for granted.

    Who knows.

    I just really hope he is with the team next year and going forward. Paying someone else to have his ABs is not going to help our team at all. At worst, transition him into the DH role next year.

    I just am not going to give up on Alex. He’s the reason I’ve had so many great memories of the Yankees in recent years. 2007 was a season I’ll never forget. He’s had so many huge game tying home runs and walk offs for the Yankees since he’s been here. But everyone compares him to Jeter and never give him a fair shake. I get he makes the most money and that creates massive envy, but he’s still a human being.

    Go Yankees! Bring it back to New York!

  40. theREALkevin October 18th, 2012 at 1:05 am

    “i do accept that this series isn’t coming back to ny.”

    Freudian slip

  41. Nick in SF October 18th, 2012 at 1:15 am

    The Yankees are coming back to New York!

    You can quote me on that.

  42. NYYanksFan October 18th, 2012 at 1:38 am

    “But will Rodriguez be in the lineup or not? Gotta think there will be a lot of pressure on Girardi to put him in there, at least from some directions.”

    or pressure to take him out of it?

    According to Tigers manager Jim Leyland, he received two different Yankee lineups in the late afternoon, the first one listing A-Rod hitting sixth and playing third base. But then, a courier from the Yankee clubhouse brought a second lineup to Leyland’s office – the one that was officially released which omitted both A-Rod and Curtis Granderson and had Eric Chavez at third base, hitting sixth, Brett Gardner in center field and Nick Swisher back in right field after being benched the night before.

    “Is something else going on over there with A-Rod?” Leyland asked the Daily News before the game was postponed by rain Wednesday. “I got two lineups from them, one with him in it and the second one with him out.”

    Joe Girardi explained the two-lineup mystery as a mistake on his part and not a last-minute decision to bench A-Rod again.

    “We talked about some different lineups during the day,” Girardi said, “and when I handed the lineup to (third base coach Robbie Thompson), I didn’t realize which one it was. It was actually a mistake on my part. We had people in different spots. So I called over there (to Leyland) and told them we gave them the wrong one.”

    So if it’s any consolation to A-Rod, at least Girardi thought about playing him, to the point where he even had him penciled in on a lineup card.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z29cruu97v

  43. Median October 18th, 2012 at 3:30 am

    Current Detroit forecast for Thursday looks messy:

    Occasional showers and possibly a thunderstorm before 1pm, then showers likely. High near 59. Breezy, with a south southeast wind 14 to 21 mph, with gusts as high as 28 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

  44. Duh Innings II October 18th, 2012 at 5:28 am

    A-Rod to the Marlins for Heath Bell? I make that trade in a heartbeat.

    Bell had an off-year this year – 5.09 ERA – but I think he could rebound. If the Yanks get Bell and Soriano doesn’t opt out, the Yanks 2013 bullpen would be Rivera (who will re-sign), Robertson, Soriano, Bell, Logan, Rapada, and either Chamberlain or Aardsma (as I think Rapada would be re-signed also), hands down the best bullpen in MLB. If Soriano opts out, the bullpen is the same, only with Chamberlain AND Aardsma (the Yanks simply exercise Aardsma’s team option for 2013.) If Soriano opted out, the Yanks would clear $14M and simply use that money to pay Bell’s remaining $18M through 2014, so Bell would cost only $4M on top of that, $13M if the Yanks pick up Bell’s $9M team option for 2015 or that option becomes vested if Bell makes enough appearances in 2014.

    Bell is just the Type A personality who would fit right in in New York. The guy is fearless and I’d have no problem whatsoever with him being the primary insurance closer for Rivera.

  45. Mike Ri October 18th, 2012 at 7:09 am

    Im going to Pass on Bell

  46. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 7:25 am

    One way or another this should be an interesting Hot Stove season.

    If it were me I’d secure the Pitching and then concentrate all the rest of my efforts on the O.

    I think Mo and AP will be back for a return engagement.

    Would love to welcome back Kuroda but I’m not so sure he’ll return.

    If we can get both AP and Hiroki inked I’m shopping Nova/Phelps to see what they might bring back.

    I want to see the Yankees alter their DNA a little by moving away from a HR-based O to a more balanced one.

    One that has more guys who hit for avg. to go with the big boppers.

    Other change I’d like to see is a more towards more youth in the lineup.

    That energy would be a welcome positive.

    Nunez is an example. If the Gritster is healthy so is he.

    Give Adams a shot at 3rd.

  47. Benny Blanco October 18th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    MTU,

    My question is this: Who will be the media’s new “whipping boy” once Alex leaves? And I can’t wait to to see how the other hitters respond to the pressure that Alex received while playing with the yankees. Tex and Cano will officially be on the media “radar.” They will be praying for alex to come back.

  48. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    2 important decisions to be made regarding Swisher and Soriano.

  49. blake October 18th, 2012 at 7:33 am

    “One way or another this should be an interesting Hot Stove season.”

    Or boring again :(

  50. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 7:35 am

    Benny-

    The longknives do seem to be out for A-rod.

    No idea who the designated whipping boy will be next time round.

    There are several guys who seem to take turns at that.

    Being thrown under the bus.

    I used to joke and say Alex should change his name to L-Rod.

    The transition from the dynasty players to next generation is not going as smoothly as I hoped.

  51. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 7:38 am

    Blake-

    I don’t think so. There are some definite undercurrents.

    And changes needed.

    There needs to be a serious reassement of the Power-based model.

    I think it’s flaws have been exposed over the last few seasons.

    Especially when it comes to the PS.

  52. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 7:42 am

    Team BA needs to go way up.

    ;)

  53. blake October 18th, 2012 at 7:42 am

    MTU says:
    October 18, 2012 at 7:31 am
    2 important decisions to be made regarding Swisher and Soriano.

    Swisher is easy….make qualifying offer….if he declines then say buh bye…..Id make Soriano the offer as well and if he opts out and wants multiple years then let him go too

  54. blake October 18th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    MtU.

    You know I agree with you as to what they “should ” do….but what they should do and what they will do may be different

  55. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Blake-

    I might be more inclined to move grandy than swisher.

    His production will be hard to replace and he’s versatile.

    Big knock on him is that he does not seem to produce in the PS.

    They have to think carefully before they let soriano walk.

    Good closers are hard to come by.

    They need to have Mo or someone else in mind beforehand.

    Otherwise they are gonna be forced to keep soriano.

  56. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am

    Good morning-

    May I join in?

    114M left on contract[28,25,21,20,20M], doesn’t include the marketing agreement of 30M when he passes certain homerun milestones. Plus the full NTC.

    From Joel Sherman this morning:

    “Miami could be an ideal landing spot since Rodriguez is from there. In spring, Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria joked with Yankees president Randy Levine about wanting A-Rod for the opening of their new stadium, a source said, and Levine kidded back to make an offer. But there is no joke now.”

    “For what it is worth, Rodriguez is owed five years at $114 million and Jose Reyes and Heath Bell together are owed, yep, exactly $114 million.”

    Why on earth would any NL team have an interest now in a player who soon might become a full time DH? It took the Yankees to take on 2/3rds of Burnett’s contract. It wuld need the Yankees far more, IMO to get ARod to waive his NTC and settle on the perks.

    Here’s the rest of the NY Post short article:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....RuobE3TjAI

  57. blake October 18th, 2012 at 7:52 am

    It is unfair that Alex has taken the brunt of everything..,,,when really Cano is the one that ha been the biggest factor in their struggles.

    However I do think some damage is being done to that relationship an it won’t surprise me at all if they try hard to move him this winter……

    In some ways Alex will never be able to win….. He was under appreciated when he was in his prime because of his contract…..now he’s vilified because he’s old and everyone expects him to perform like he’s 27 because of his contract…..

  58. Triple Short of a Cycle October 18th, 2012 at 7:53 am

    They aren’t going to do anything to try and improve the offense because they don’t see it as a problem.

    Cash even said on the radio yesterday that everyone just happen to go into a terrible slump.

  59. blake October 18th, 2012 at 7:54 am

    Now if they’d do Reyes and Bell for Alex then Id do that in a heart beat…..but why would the marlins do something like that?

  60. jacksquat October 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Swisher was benched, and now Granderson will be benched (if they stick with the game 4 lineup). Are they “whipping boys” now also? Or are they also just underperforming badly and the team is simply searching for something that might work? Maybe the media and fans are the ones with the knives out and the team is trying to make rational decisions.

  61. 86w183 October 18th, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Good morning all —

    A-Rod is attractive in Miami because he would still be a draw there. If he gets healthy in the off-season he is still a productive, dangerous hitter and if it’s a financial wash it’s something they would consider.

    Bell and Reyes for A-rod, Nunez and Phelps could help both teams.

    I also think the Dodgers are a possibility because they really want to get Matt Kemp out of CF to save wear and tear, but they’re committed in the OF w. three long term deals.

    A-Rod and Gardner for Ethier and Han-Ram? Solves problems for both teams.

    This cannot possibly be a dull off-season. They have too many major decisions ahead of them.

    But first, need to win this afternoon.

  62. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    YT/Blake-

    I agree with you guys. Why would the Marlins do that.

    Only way is if the Yankees ate part of A-rod’s contract too.

    I don’t see the Yankees doing that.

  63. RadioKev October 18th, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Paying Alex to play elsewhere doesn’t help the team. It’s just that simple. There’s no good argument for it, and there’s no good logic as to why the organization would do it.

  64. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:01 am

    MTU,

    If they made Swisher the qualifying offer and he accepted then that’s be fine….I do think it’ll be tough to replace his regular season production…..that said the issue is his contract…..he’s already saying he wants Jason Werth money….they can’t do anything near that

  65. raymagnetic October 18th, 2012 at 8:01 am

    This lines up Sabathia perfectly to start game 1 of the WS :|

  66. 86w183 October 18th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    Alex is the only player in the game that sells tickets in Miami. Miami doesn’t sell many tickets in its new garish stadium. It’s the one place where his pursuit of milestone statistics will actually sell tickets.

    They’re not thrilled at the prospect of paying Reyes $ 22 M @ age 36. I’m not either, but you don’t move Alex’s deal without taking on someone else’s toxic contract(s).

    Personally, I like my Dodger deal better.

  67. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Cash even said on the radio yesterday that everyone just happen to go into a terrible slump

    ————

    Get ready for some stop gaps

  68. austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    What good does it do for the team to get rid of AROD and pay 80% of his salary? That money is still on the books and they would have no 3rd baseman. He isn’t as bad as he looks now.

  69. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Blake-

    Didn’t hear that.

    If that’s true then I agree. He’s a goner.

    86-

    You come up with some interesting trade proposals.

    R U interested in replacing Cashman ?

    ;)

  70. RadioKev October 18th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:01 am
    MTU,

    If they made Swisher the qualifying offer and he accepted then that’s be fine….I do think it’ll be tough to replace his regular season production…..that said the issue is his contract…..he’s already saying he wants Jason Werth money….they can’t do anything near that
    ———–

    We can use some internal stop gaps. Dickerson, Mustelier, Nunez. We’ll get by, although I agree and think Swisher’s production is just stupidly underrated around here.

  71. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    If the Yankees want to rid themselves of the 14M owed Soriano[Boras client] next year they better not make Soriano a qualifying offer.

    In the offseason of 2002 the Braves offered then 37 yo, Scott Boras client, arbitration, thinking he wouldn’t accept it. He did, because Boras knew he couldn’t get him 15M for even two years. The Braves then couldn’t afford to bring back 18 game winner Kevin Millwood.

  72. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Only way I could see the marlins doing something like that would be if the Yanks ate so much of Alex’s contract that the Marlins saved money on the exchange …. Or if the Yanks included good prospects…..

    The yanks could approach Jeter about 3B I guess and then Reyes could solve their going forward SS issues…..but to take on more salary to move Arod doesn’t seem wise…..

  73. RadioKev October 18th, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Why would A-Rod sell tickets in Miami? He’s booed in New York. They love watching sluggers deteriorate down there?

  74. hman23 October 18th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    Chase October 18th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    I really am bummed about how Alex is being made the scapegoat of this ENTIRE LINEUP’s putrid offensive display.

    He broke his hand months ago, probably not 100%, but will never to admit it. He had started swinging the bat very well, barrelling up everything right before Felix’s changeup hit his hand.

    Nobody seems to have any perspective at all.

    ———————

    Chase,

    I could not agree with you more. Excellent observation. The lineup is hitting about .200 overall. Although was clearly in a slump — but b=perhaps coming out of it given a solid hit the opposite way in his last AB — ARod HAS come through on many occasions with big hits in key situations, both in regular season AND in the postseason (if not this one, but hell, who has on this team besides Ibanez?). He also has a god glove on defense.

    I could care less about his current numbers based on RHP based on a couple dozen ABs. Cano want almost 30ABs without a single hit. Chavez does not have a hit in the postseason. Granderson is lost. ARod is not the only one.

    ARod was part of the lineup that got you the wins to take the division and get you in the postseason. I my opinion, if you are going down, go down with what got you there.

    Girardi’s moves reveal panic.

  75. RadioKev October 18th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    The whole thing is gibberish

  76. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    “If the Yankees want to rid themselves of the 14M owed Soriano[Boras client] next year they better not make Soriano a qualifying offer.”

    I’m not sure I would want rid of him ….if he opts out then you assume he’s wanting to leave ….so you make the qualifying offer so you get a pick in case he does and then If he accepts you save like 1/2 a million bucks over what you would have paid him……

    I’m assuming that there wouldn’t be a ton of time for him to decide on the qualifying offer….you only get 5 days to accept or decline

  77. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    What positions do the stop gap bros. play ?

    Can they hit for avg. ?

    Do they know how to bunt ?

    Are they under 30 ?

    If so, I’ll take ‘em.

    ;)

  78. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    RadioKev says:
    October 18, 2012 at 8:00 am
    Paying Alex to play elsewhere doesn’t help the team. It’s just that simple. There’s no good argument for it, and there’s no good logic as to why the organization would do it.”

    It depends…..paying him 114 million to play for another team doesn’t help…..it hurts….however paying him 75 million to play for another team could help the team if they can use that money saved to get other players……

  79. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    “A-Rod and Gardner for Ethier and Han-Ram? Solves problems for both teams.”

    Expect that makes the Dodgers worse

  80. Frankg October 18th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    With Phil Coke closing two games, and with Austin Jackson in centerfield, and Granderson on the bench, Cashman can take much credit for helping the Tigers beat the Yankees to with the division. His record as a trader is not good and I would feel much better if he would not make any trades.

  81. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    austinmac says:
    October 18, 2012 at 8:03 am
    What good does it do for the team to get rid of AROD and pay 80% of his salary? That money is still on the books and they would have no 3rd baseman. He isn’t as bad as he looks now.

    I think it all depends…..if the Yanks move Arod then other factors must be in play….frankly you assume they want him out of the clubhouse ….if they saved 20% of his salary ten that’s about 6 million a year…..

    It’ll be interesting how it unfolds…..

  82. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:13 am

    RadioKev says:
    October 18, 2012 at 8:04 am
    Why would A-Rod sell tickets in Miami? He’s booed in New York. They love watching sluggers deteriorate down there?

    He’s from there….lives there…. Still a high school hero to many there….. Very involved with U of Miami and I think donated Bunche of money to their baseball program

  83. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Blake-

    Truth now. Do you really want to see Rafael Soriano as your closer next year at 14M or 13M. He had a very good year with 42 saves, 4 blown saves and a WHIP 1.17, and ERA 2.26.

    He makes things too interesting when he comes into a game, ala a John Wetteland, if you remember his Yankee days as closer. I just don’t feel despite the record, that he is dominating.

    I’d rather the now frugal Yankees spend the money on bringing back Kuroda, Pettitte and Rivera.

  84. hman23 October 18th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    ARod is 3 for 23 in the postseason. Bad numbers.

    In the first 6 games of the 2004 ALCS, Johnny Damon was 3 for 29. But, he started in game 7. He went 3 for 6 with 6 RBIs and 2 HRs that carried the Sox.

    That is how quickly it can change.

  85. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    86-

    I’m with you. I see significant changes this OS.

    They’ve got to take a serious look at the past 2 PS’s.

    They can chalk it up to bad luck but an objective observer knows there is more to it than just that IMO.

    There is too much risk invested in an aging HR-based O.

    IMO they need to diversify it more to increase the odds of success.

  86. 86w183 October 18th, 2012 at 8:17 am

    86-

    You come up with some interesting trade proposals.

    R U interested in replacing Cashman ?

    **************************************************************

    Hell yeah! Aren’t we all?

    Blake I’m not sure it makes the Dodgers worse. It makes Kemp better by getting him out of CF and gives them a legit lead off guy who can steal bases and fills a huge void at 3B. Might have to add to it, though.

    Alex was on a .272, 25 HR, 90 RBI pace before his hand was broken. There are not many 3B better than that right now.

  87. RadioKev October 18th, 2012 at 8:17 am

    blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:13 am
    RadioKev says:
    October 18, 2012 at 8:04 am
    Why would A-Rod sell tickets in Miami? He’s booed in New York. They love watching sluggers deteriorate down there?

    He’s from there….lives there…. Still a high school hero to many there….. Very involved with U of Miami and I think donated Bunche of money to their baseball program
    ———-

    Great. Would all those nice things make a significant amount of fans come out and pay money? It’s some bizarre regional-prejudice to think that. I think we’re fooling ourselves on this one.

  88. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    “Nobody seems to have any perspective at all.”

    I do think he could hit again and yes he’s shown flashes of finding it this season…..but he hasn’t played 140 games since 2007 and despite the flashes his numbers have been dropping every year…..he will be 38 next year.

    Again this doesn’t seem to be entirely baseball related…..other factors seem at play.

    I think Alex could learn to be productive again….as I’ve written I think he’s totally screwed up mechanically and should just reset himself to default this winter away from Long…..but that said I don know if he will ever be healthy enough again to find it an we can’t deny that this will be a HUGE story an distraction in ST if Alex is still with the Yankees…..all you’re gonna hear is about Joe and Alex’s relationship…..what’s Alex’s role…..is he a starter….. Etc etc

  89. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    “I think we’re fooling ourselves on this one.”

    I think the Yankees are fooling themselves if they think an aging, HR.-based lineup is gonna get them to the promised land year in and year out.

    But we’ll see.

    ;)

  90. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    “Truth now. Do you really want to see Rafael Soriano as your closer next year at 14M or 13M. He had a very good year with 42 saves, 4 blown saves and a WHIP 1.17, and ERA 2.26.”

    I want to see Rivera…..but Soriano was very good an it’ll hurt their pen I he leaves…..the better question is what else could they buy with that 14 million and would it help the team as much as Soriano?

  91. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:22 am

    “Blake I’m not sure it makes the Dodgers worse. It makes Kemp better by getting him out of CF and gives them a legit lead off guy who can steal bases and fills a huge void at 3B. Might have to add to it, though.”

    Replaces a 29 year old 3B with a more expensive 38 year old 3B and replaces a good hitter in Ethier with super injury prone Gardner? If you can get Ned to do that and make the money even ill lead the mutiny on Cashman and have you replace him!

  92. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    If the Yankees have to pay 80% of 114M salary thats 91.2M over 5 years. They save, rounded off 23M, or only 4.6M/year.

    And no one has answered the question, what will it take to waive the 30M in homerun perks and to waive the full NTC.

    ARod is virtually untradeable now, and might still be even if he comes to the Yankees this offseason and says trade me, I’ll waive my NTC and marketing perks.

    Would you buy stock in a company that is outdated and has 2 years of declining production and revenues?

  93. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Don’t underestimate the value of a good closer.

    I’d love it to be Mo but if he isn’t returning then you need to find someone reliable.

    I was hoping that would be D-Rob but I’m not as sure of him anymore.

    want to take your chances w Aardsma ? Don’t think so.

  94. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Great. Would all those nice things make a significant amount of fans come out and pay money? It’s some bizarre regional-prejudice to think that. I think we’re fooling ourselves on this one.”

    It’s the marlins…..does it all really have to make sense? ;)

  95. austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    MTU,

    Cashman is quoted in one of the papers this morning as reaffirming the walk/power offensive theory. Depressing.

  96. austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    Blake,

    That extra six million is just what Hal needs. More money. Do we think he would spend it or use it to get under the cap? I know what I expect.

  97. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    “And no one has answered the question, what will it take to waive the 30M in homerun perks and to waive the full NTC.”

    I’m assuming the acquiring team would be on the hook for that since it hasn’t happened yet…..victim not sure

  98. MTU October 18th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Mac-

    I didn’t see it but if that’s true then I think he’s missing the boat a little.

    He seems locked into Michael’s model.

    But I don’t think that’s really what they have now.

    Too many guys w low BA’s on this team.

    That needs to rise.

    Only guys who are semi-reliable in that regard are Cano and Jeter.

    Most of the rest are .270 or below.

    (I’m not counting Ichiro).

    I think JF has presented this info in the past, or something like it.

  99. Cashmoney October 18th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    it’s hard to envision the rod going anywhere unless he straighten himself out and become half of the player that he was which is essential what he was this season before PS and injuries.

    I don’t mind the thought of trading him and Yanks might have option in adam and obviously can spend the resource in fortifying areas of need.

    but i don’t see that happening. I read Cashman’s interview, It does seem he still doesn’t see the vulnerabilities of his offensive philosophy or gene michael’s according to him. this once again fortify my belief that C doesn’t really possess an eye for unique talent is heavily rely upon others evaluations to ultimately make decisions on acquisitions. maybe the problem is the Yankee need to hire more advisers that has keener eye in identifying the right talent.
    I really think the Yanks will benefit form hiring a GM who is savvy at both statistical analysis as well as having keen eye in identifying talents.

  100. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    MTU,

    Cashman is quoted in one of the papers this morning as reaffirming the walk/power offensive theory. Depressing

    ———————-

    Please tell me he isn’t

  101. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Blake-

    I’m sorry I have to agree with MTU and Kev and Austinmac on the prospects of being able to unload ARod this offseason. Owed 28M and 6M when he likely passes Mays next year.

    On Soriano. If you want the Yankees to bring back Kuroda, Pettitte, Rivera, and arb players like Gardner. Robertson, Joba, plus pick up options on Granderson and Cano plus escalating salaries, you could very well be close to the 209M plus the Yankees are paying this year.

    From Cots:
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html

    You can’t have it all.

  102. 86w183 October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    Gardner played 309 games in 2010-11… that’s hardly “super injury prone”

    ************************************************************************

    ARod is virtually untradeable now, and might still be even if he comes to the Yankees this offseason and says trade me, I’ll waive my NTC and marketing perks.

    Would you buy stock in a company that is outdated and has 2 years of declining production and revenues?

    ************************************************************************

    I would if I could divest myself of some future obligations.

    Any team acquiring Alex would have to be confident he was not in long term decline, have contracts they would love to get out of AND have the ability to monetize Alex’ pursuit of statistical accomplishments.

    I live in Florida and have been in South Florida more times than I can count. Alex is HUGE down there. He would definitely sell tickets and increase TV ratings/revenue. It’s risky, but it’s the kind of risk they might take. LA is a different dynamic.

  103. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    “Cashman is quoted in one of the papers this morning as reaffirming the walk/power offensive theory. Depressing”

    I think Cashman should continue to believe in the high OBP and homers approach……then I think he should get some hitters that get on base enough for it to work and get some hitters that can get some hits to supplement it when it doesnt

  104. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    I really think the Yanks will benefit form hiring a GM who is savvy at both statistical analysis as well as having keen eye in identifying talents

    —————-

    Go get Friedman and his advisors.

  105. luis October 18th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Good morning everyone,

    Just a quick pass to say hello. I don’t think I will be able to watch the game. Cashman doesn’t seem to have a learned anything from this past seasons. Let’s get rid of him.

    On Arod, I haven’t gotten time to read the news about it. Still, I think he is untradeable. I think they negotiate an early retirement, rather than a trade.

  106. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Fuzzy Math!

    It’s 4.6M not 6M and that’s not counting the marketing perks.

  107. Cashmoney October 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    has the Yankee hitter ran into a cold streak? sure very reasonable take base on the streaky nature of some of the hitters on this team. But potential offensive woes were predicted by many on here. the funny things about gene michael philosphy is that his championship team under michael had more contact ,average LH hitter than simply one dimensional sluggers.

  108. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Odds-

    If you go get the Rays GM and the statistical advisors that have plotted the extreme shifts the Rays use successfuly, with the pitchers who can execute getting hitters to hit into the shift, let’s bring Maddon along for the ride and start talks with the Rays on trading for some of their pitching talent! :)

  109. luis October 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Cashmoney,

    You are right on the money ;). Stick’s teams never lead in homers. But they were a pitcher’s grinding machine. Very balanced teams on both sides of the ball.

  110. Cashmoney October 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    high OPS and power doesn’t preclude high average and contact. he needs effing open his eyes and stop assemble 9 clones of 2008 Giambi. balance it out Cashman, stop this rigid thinking process.

  111. luis October 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am

    I think Cashman missed that class or he read Moneyball way too many times.

  112. 86w183 October 18th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    I have no problem with the “walks and homers” approach, but there’s no reason why the entire lineup fits that mold.

    I’ve always though the ideal team averages at least one HR and one SB every game and has at least three .300. I like a mix of power and speed.

    This year — 1 .300 hitter, 245 HR, 93 SB

    1998 — 4 .300 hitters, 207 HR, 153 SB

  113. luis October 18th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Cash,

    Don’t expect him to change his ways.. He has always been like this… We just couldn’t see it… He has zero flexibility in his model of an ideal team.

  114. austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Cashman referred to Michaels in his comments to the press. I agree those teams weren’t stocked with hitters under .250.

    Accounting question-would the team get any benefit in the average annual salary for cap purposes if they trade him and pay a percentage? Would they then only pay the part they paid for cap purposes or would they be considered for cap purposes only the amount they send to the acquiring team?

    I’m guessing the latter.

  115. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:47 am

    “I’m sorry I have to agree with MTU and Kev and Austinmac on the prospects of being able to unload ARod this offseason. Owed 28M and 6M when he likely passes Mays next year.”

    Smaller scale but people said the same stuff about AJ……

  116. luis October 18th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Later guys, have a good one

  117. Cashmoney October 18th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    i agree, i won’t take this to the extreme… but that’s my take on C. he is obviously a bright guy. but I really think there are better ones out there who is good at both stats analysis and actual baseball observational knowledge. he aint the man for me in this brave new world.

  118. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    I’m pessimistic that many of the current Yankee position players can turn it around, because the scouting has exposed their weaknesses.

    The shift robs players like Granderson and Tex[from the left side especially].

    Offspeed curves, splitters, and especially CUs-Granderson, Tex, Swisher[again from left side], as well as Ibanez, and probably Chavez seem to have them whiffing at air.

    That’s only for starters.

    As far as Cano is concerned, he’s just too talented. I have no clue why he is in such a deep slump this postseason.

  119. blake October 18th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    “As far as Cano is concerned, he’s just too talented. I have no clue why he is in such a deep slump this postseason.”

    I think most of it is just bad luck….and that he’s just hit a slump at the wrong time…..but I do think his approach at the plate makes it difficult for him to be “the man” in a lineup…..he just gets himself out too much and smart pitchers are exploiting that and are pitching around him….. The problem with Cano is that when he’s off you can pitch around him and still get him out because he will put pitches that are balls in play

  120. J. Alfred Prufrock October 18th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    but i don’t see that happening. I read Cashman’s interview, It does seem he still doesn’t see the vulnerabilities of his offensive philosophy or gene michael’s according to him. this once again fortify my belief that C doesn’t really possess an eye for unique talent is heavily rely upon others evaluations to ultimately make decisions on acquisitions. maybe the problem is the Yankee need to hire more advisers that has keener eye in identifying the right talent.
    I really think the Yanks will benefit form hiring a GM who is savvy at both statistical analysis as well as having keen eye in identifying talents.
    ///

    Cashmoney,

    Eppler is the MLB guy. Is he the one recommending pickups like McGehee (who Cashman implied was going to be some great Problem Solver against LHP)? Guys like Kearns? He certainly held sway with his immovable stance that Joba should just stay in the bullpen forever (the source, I believe, for all we mourn for).

  121. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Later Luis

  122. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Hey all I want to explain something I said last night where I definitely ended up using the wrong word (and no, the word wasn’t “win” :)

    Tar thought that the following from one of Chad’s leads-in contained a direct quote from Brian Cashman:

    “It seems like Rodriguez has been the scapegoat, but Brian Cashman pointed out that Rodriguez’s struggles are not the small sample size that we’ve seen from guys like Swisher and Robinson Cano. Rodriguez has struggled against right handers all year, got much worse in the past month and a half, and has been awful in the playoffs.”

    I said that it wasn’t a quote from Cashman but rather that Chad was “editorializing”. That’s definitely not the word I should have used and it certainly isn’t what Chad was doing! He was giving examples of why Cashman said it wasn’t a small sample size, and he was factually correct. I guess I should have said he was further explaining what Cashman was talking about.

    Just wanted to clear that up!

    GO YANKEES!!!

  123. Benny Blanco October 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Blake,

    Unfortuantely, the media will always find a way to come up with a story that will be distracting to the yankees.

    If Alex is no longer with the yankees then the discussion will be “life w/o alex”

  124. J. Alfred Prufrock October 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    The problem with Cano is that when he’s off you can pitch around him and still get him out because he will put pitches that are balls in play
    ////

    While this is obviously true, it would sure help him out if he had, say, a Fielder behind him (maybe a RH version).

    Leyland has been open about pitching around Cano, and I will harken back, again and again, to that Seattle game which so underscored how teams view our lineup…Cano BB’d with the bases loaded, in order to incur the least amount of damage, because they thought they could get Tex out.

    Conceding a run, to not have to pitch to Cano. Good for Tex that he’s been pretty good in these playoffs, but the point still stands.

  125. Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Wish I could stay on, but have to go.

    Good dialogue.

    Predict ARod stays a Yankee for at least next year or two, till his contract is 20-21M/year, unless he comes to Yankees and asks for a trade this offseason.

  126. Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    Yankee Trader October 18th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Fuzzy Math!
    ——————

    No no no, it’s voodoo math!

  127. Shame Spencer October 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    :arrow:

  128. Cashmoney October 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    jap, scouting is all about projections and evaluation of tools.. that stats by and in itself does not reign supreme. Yanks need better talent evaluators imo. and the importation of talents, preferably youth, will be the key to this team long term success under the current system. Yanks needs put forth resources in this particular area.

  129. jacksquat October 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Cashman acquired Ichiro, not exactly a home run hitter, replaced Nix with Nunez, replaced first Swisher and then Granderson with Gardner. Don’t say he/they aren’t willing to try different things, like speed, contact, defense.

    Of course when he does that he gets criticized for that too, or there is just silence.

    Again, there seems an effort to creat a narrative here rather than just be objective.

    And too many people being lead around by the nose by media with their “sources” and “insiders”.

  130. J. Alfred Prufrock October 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    MTU,

    Cashman is quoted in one of the papers this morning as reaffirming the walk/power offensive theory. Depressing

    ———————-

    Please tell me he isn’t
    ///

    Odds, he believes that nonsense that BA is irrelevant – which has now become a cliche. He’s not an original thinker, this guy.

  131. Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 9:07 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Against All Odds October 18th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    austinmac October 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    MTU,

    Cashman is quoted in one of the papers this morning as reaffirming the walk/power offensive theory. Depressing

    ———————-

    Please tell me he isn’t ///

    Odds, he believes that nonsense that BA is irrelevant –which has now become a cliche. He’s not an original thinker, this guy

    ——————-

    He seems to have lost his way smh.

  132. yankeefeminista October 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

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  133. yankeefeminista October 18th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

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